>OhNONONO, our beloved Steam gonna censor your toxic Epic reviews.
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>That change can be described easily: we're going to identify off-topic review bombs, and remove them from the Review Score.
Looks like Epic Store finally has a real challenger:^)
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>it's another Epic Games shill thread
Offtopic review bombing is the one point in favour of Epic scrapping reviews entirely. Steam sorting it out is a good thing
Sounds like a good idea in the wake of the tragic Churchtown shooting. We as a society need to reevaluate allowing gamers to exist.
American Basedware truly is the BEST!
It's okay, review bombs don't need to exist now that the Chinese can just remove any games they don't like
I didn't know Steam Blog is Epic Games shill now, holy shit, really learn something new every day.
Are they finally getting rid of that ridiculous “upboat this review as funneh! xD” button? All it does is encourage dumb shits to make garbage “reviews” for laughs and memes. I’d rather have review bombs for legitimate reasons than allowing idiots to say pointless bullshit like “Recommended: this game crashes every 5 minutes and gave me cancer.”
I didn't know Steam belongs to Chinese now (^: Anti-Chinese shills really can spew any deranged gibberish just to bash China, WeW.
Reminder Valve fanboys, they didn't want to do this, but you forced their hand.
>Developer/publisher does something I don't like
>Decide to leave a negative review to spite them
>Make up some shit about the game being poorly optimized in order to avoid being removed
I'm going to punish anti-consumer companies and there's nothing they can do to stop me
>We're not going to curate games
>we're not going to curate reviews
>we're going to curate reviews
>we're going to curate games too
that's not censorship
I get it, steam. you've consumed the SJW kool-aid and you want to ban people from pointing out that your ideology is bad.
You said your review system was going to be authentic, not accurate.
This makes no sense. They're just arbitrarily going to remove reviews that developers don't like, aren't they?
So they're literally saying publishers can tell Valve to remove reviews they don't like?
>it's opt out
WOW, IT'S FUCKING NOTHING
Technically it's a bitching about steam thread. Which has the same obsessed epic spammer, but is not quite the same.
>DRM or EULA changes will be counted as off-topic
steam... wtf are you doing
Don't review bomb previous games retards.
REMINDER: OP is a cockmongler and deliberately omits the entire explanation about how the system is actually smart and fully optional.
>deliberately omits the entire explanation
Are you fucking blind or have sexual-fluid cancer? Little shill? I even posted the screenshot and direct link of entire article. You need to cope harder, shill.
>yfw Steam takes down I'M COMMANDER SHEPARD AND THIS IS MY FAVORITE GAME ON STEAM the curator
>and the NEP NEP NEP NEP NEP NEP NEP one
>and the 8.8/10 8.8/10 8.8/10 IGN CURATOR one
sheeeit
Valve is finally dealing with the "chink problem" it seems
This. OP didn't hide shit. Why are Steam shills so desperate?
How to hide shit
>Twitter screencap, no links
>I-I posted it all I swear this pic isn't misleading
Uh huh. It continues for another full page at least.
>Are you fucking blind or have sexual-fluid cancer?
Clearly you are since you just cut out the convenient parts to further your perspective, conveniently leaving out all the parts that actually show why this is a good thing.
Enjoy swallowing the redpill that no one gives a fuck about DRM except for poorfags
That's a terrible reaction image that only exists because of how desperate DMC fags are to be relevant.
>mfw nobody cares about the game in 2 weeks
>direct screenshot of half article is misleading
Looks like you really have homosexual brain trauma or something. If you or anyone want to read the whole article, they can always just access the link I posted and read it by themselves, I don't have obligation to spoon-feed everything to you, you lazy cunt.
See Cope harder, shills.
Not that guy, but I haven't pirated a game in years and I still don't like DRM. Denuvo for example ruins performance. Not always because it depends on implementation, but they often implement it in a way that it has significant performance degradation.
Also personally I don't really care about this, I just reposted the article here to trigger steamfags and shills such as you.
It works as fine so far :^)
It doesn't though. Even the Devil May Cry case was debunked already.
Based
Or you can just learn to be smart with your money. Rather than blow $1200 on a shitty "gaming" PC buy an off-lease workstation or server with 32+ cores and 64GB RAM, at which point Denuvo is the difference between 200fps and 175fps.
basically, it's only to save asses of large devs, which would suddenly add spyware or drastically change the prices or alter the game - like it was case with paradox or civilisation.
Why would the article itself trigger Steamfags? The only way this would trigger people is if faggots leave out relevant information, and that's only because these people are retarded enough to present it as a bad thing in the first place.
Guy has been samefagging his posts all this time. You wouldn't understand these levels of mental illness.
Only problem with this is genuine reviews will also be made irrelevant if they're posted within the "review bombing" period because Steam won't discriminate. Also, you can opt out and keep things exactly as they were so far.
rent free on fromniggers minds
I explicitly said that not all games are affected. There are decent implementations. As far as I know, Nier Automata is another one. (I have that game and it runs perfectly)
It depends on the implementation. There are some fucking awful examples. Not implying I can't run even those awful ones fine, but I'd rather not. Might as well just pirate because that runs better... and since I'm too lazy to pirate, might as well not even play.
You are NEVER getting 200 FPS on a 32 core workstation. Those 32 core CPUs? Yea, they don't run at 5GHz. And you need 5GHz to get 200 FPS in almost any game I can think of, because game workloads are not perfectly parallelized even with DX12 and Vulkan.
I've actually played video games on a workstation before, and all those cores do fuck all when your clock is not even 3.5GHz. My current gaming PC will stomp almost any workstation in gaming, even though it has only 32GB of RAM and a i7 6800K - which I bought for cheap to replace my workstation Xeon a long time ago, for exactly the reason that gaming performance was fucking awful. It's still not great because 6800K is a pretty low end gaming CPU, but it's adequate at least. And it was a 200 dollar upgrade vs building a completely new system with something else.
It'll be fine. Incel baby rage ends at some point but if the product is genuinely good then good reviews won't.
>Churchtown
Nah. More like "honky problem". The most famous review bombers are you honkies after all.
>there should be no platform exclusives
>when 90% of pc games aren't released anywhere other than steam
Sounds like a good thing to me.
You think it's good for you to have less information about things you are interested in purchasing?
oy vey
>when 90% of pc games aren't released anywhere other than steam
Not a problem when Valve doesn't pay third parties for exclusivity, unlike certain companies
In other words the reviews are always going to look more favorable to people who don't care. This is them admitting they're hoodwinking and fleecing customers.
>moving the goalpost
Valve doesn't have to pay because they're using their status as de facto PC gaming distributor to entice developers into selling on their store. I'm not defending Epic nor will I let their spyware anywhere near my computer but don't pretend Steam didn't strongarm the PC gaming market into using their store.
>implying this is going to happen
they already dont curate their store, what makes you think they'll look through THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS of negative reviews?
Then tell the publishers and devs to sell their shit on other stores. If they lock themselves to steam, it's not valve's fault or problem.
They'll use a dampening algorithm to lessen the impact of sudden increases in negative reviews on a game with a history of positive reviews.
So developers can do shit like add in cancerous microtransaction systems into their games after the fact and Valve will protect them from criticism for this.
Exactly
No, but it doesn't hide the reviews and you can simply change your preferences so the review bombs are still reflected in the score anyway, if you care about that.
User review scores are pointless if people can tank them for reasons unrelated to the game, like disagreeing with the dev's politics, so this makes them more helpful.
I like how you conveniently cut out the part with the link to where you can change the settings to show these reviews anyway.
sugar coating to make you swallow the pill
Yea Forumsalve drones defending censorship as usual
The biggest pussies in gaming
You see the thing is if it's something you care about enough to make you leave a review then it's more than likely something that someone else would care about. If it influenced your decision, it might also influence someone else's decision if it's information they didn't have. Do you understand the fundamental philosophy behind this? I'll help illustrate it.
It doesn't matter if you consider the reason for someone leaving a bad review is relevant to the game itself or not since game purchases do not happen in a vacuum. The only time you could realistically determine that a review is not relevant and should be removed is if you scan the fucking brains of every person who might read that review and mystically know for a fact that nobody considers it valid. Since Valve isn't in the mother fucking sooth saying business it's not ethical for them to weigh some reviews as more important than others for any reason. If it's possible that the review, as shitty or as it is or clearly malicious, could influence someone's purchasing decision, that review is 100% valid because that's the entire purpose of the review system. It's not a simply vector for convincing people to purchase more things. It's also a vector for giving people information that can help them save money. It's up to the reader of the review to judge the merits of every review they read; not Valve. Making people opt in to see certain reviews is strictly and explicitly a move to suppress information that would ultimately cost Valve sales for a particular game. All reviews need to be counted with equal weight, just like all votes should be. The system is corrupt otherwise.
I hope so
those fags are literally encouraging curation to be a meme fest and have nothing of value
Oh what ever will I do without 60000 fake reviews screaming that they don't like that the dev doesn't defend terrorists or whatever
You ignore them if you think they're not relevant. That's your responsibility as a discriminating customer. If you're only going to look at positive reviews then you're not a fucking discriminating customer; you're just a wallet.
Less information is still better than disinformation. Like the whole Epic dramas.
Slowpoke here, I just only noticed that Enhanced Steam was discontinued and Augmented seems to be the successor, but I just installed it in Firefox and doesn't seem to be working.
No thanks. I prefer this way. Stay salty.
It's not disinformation. It's information you don't want to read. There's a big fucking difference. You don't get to dictate what other people consider relevant to them. Same with Valve. It's up to everyone to make their own decisions about what's important to them. You wouldn't like it if people started controlling your life and making decisions about what you see and read if you were a critical thinker.
You're bragging about wanting to remain ignorant. You should be feeling intense shame for this. This sort of behavior damages you the most.
Right. So if I go onto the reviews for GTA or whatever and put a negative review because I'm high on heavy anaesthetics and I think I'm leaving a review for Olive Garden on tripadvisor, that's an honest, valid review that should rightfully impact other people's decision about whether or not they should buy GTA.
A review that's blatantly unrelated to the game its reviewing is worse than useless, it's actively misleading. It undermines the entire point of reviews. If I go looking at a game's reviews I want to know if it's a good game, not if a bunch of angry chinks got triggered by it for criticizing their dictatorship. And yet even if you ARE the type of person who sees user reviews primarily as a means to punish developers you don't like, you still can! Your nonsense won't get removed and people just as petty as you can change their settings so the scores are just as bad you want them be.
I don't even know why I bother trying to argue anything here anymore. People don't even pretend to have cognitive consistency. If someone they dislike says 1+1=2 they'll call it propaganda, if someone they like says 1+1=5 they're based. But not only are they fully aware of the contradiction they're totally fine with it. In fact, supporting whatever version of reality you've imagined for yourself no matter how nonsensical or actively suicidal is just seen as having strength of conviction.
>I am enlightened! WAKE UP SHEEPLE
I understand it's hard on you, but you aren't that smart, and people don't need to smell your shit to know it stinks.
I'm not rubbing your nose in it here. You're really self conscious about this apparently. You must get told all the time if you've got sarcastic shit like this as a response.
>what will you do if you don't know I am mad that the dev doesn't support Trump!?
Good
Maybe they'll get rid of the stupid fucking reviews that don't do anything and stop review bombers for seething about some irrelevant shit
so if the game is bombed for having shitty gameplay - it doesn't count? They're not gonna read those reviews manually, right?
Also, what the fuck is wrong with this line
>Developers understand, that [user reviews] are valuable to players, but want to feel like they're being treated fairly
What does "feel being treated fairly" imply here? Why the fuck the paying customer should give a shit what do developers feel?
Bottom-line is: how exactly are they gonna filter review bombs? Do gameplay-related mass negative reviews count?
both legit tbqh
it's ok when game is being criticized for mysoginist agenda and being sexist, but the moment when gamers pull the same card it turns into big "NONONO DAS REVIEW BOMBING, NIGGA - STOP DAT SHIT"
You're not fucking listening. Nothing is stopping you from seeing reviews about the game. But you're insisting that reviews you don't consider relevant be removed on your behalf. Your tastes should not control what other people experience. Full stop. I literally explained to you the philosophy behind this. It doesn't matter if a thousand people leave shitty reviews for a game over something that you don't consider relevant to the game itself. MANY people use that information to influence their purchases. YOU don't, but you have the ability to disregard those reviews by default by using your fucking brain.
I don't leave game reviews at all. Positive or negative. I never have. Not once in my entire life. But I understand and acknowledge the value of honest reviews. People expressing how they honestly feel is important. You may not always find it relevant, but that should not come as a surprise to you.
It's insane to me that someone who wants to behave as though he has some sort of intellectual ground to stand on would advocate what is tantamount to censorship. Suppressing information is censorship. Your fucking laziness is not an excuse to endorse it. If the publishers of a game get caught in a pedophile human trafficking drug cartel murder carnival you would complain that people are criticizing them for it on Steam in order to educate people as to where their fucking money is going? I understand this is an extreme example but it's to help you understand the POINT behind the concept. User reviews are for customers to express their thoughts on a product and whether they think it would be worth someone's time or money. It is not strictly for the game itself, but also everything connected to that game because game development does not spontaneously occur free from human interaction.
>Censors reviews
>Censors games
>Bans sexy games
"B-but valve is still the good guys they made good games 10 years ago ohhh gabe give me that dick "
I don't know who the fuck you think you're mocking but you're celebrating the fact that you're too stupid to think for yourself and would prefer to let Valve tell you whether you should spend your money. Keep sucking on that dick, faggot. Your money is being wasted; not mine.
>What will you do if valve doesn't let you hear that I hate niggers?!
You're being mocked because the only shit being cleared is garbage review bomb and joke reviews. Shit Yea Forums does like bombing a game because "REEEE DEY GAVE INTO SJWS". I fully support valve removing those reviews because they aren't real reviews. Get your social war out of my reviews, fag
The algorithm does not make this distinction you fucking retard. If you leave a legitimate negative review around the same time the game is being heavily criticized for what could be a legitimate reason like the developer releasing a patch that breaks the game then your legitimate review is going to be suppressed along with every other review during that period. This is not curated by hand.
Oh, you legit actually do just want reviews to be a tool to punish devs you don't like.
Sorry but I've decided that you're a child molester. I know it's not true and has nothing to do with your posts but it's my own valid, honest feelings and I'm making the personal decision to not argue your actual points, as they are not important to me. I advise everyone else to do the same and ignore this pedophile.
Then maybe wait until the review bomb shit is over and use your fucking brain?
Get out of here, alt-SJW
I disregard those reviews too you moron! The difference is I don't try to silence people for thinking something I don't agree with. Pull your head out of your ass. You're making the decision to not address my points because you got blown the fuck out and you exposed yourself for advocating censorship that goes against your own interests. This makes you either a shill, a retard, or a hypocrite. This ONLY benefits Valve and publishers. This harms customers because more customers will invariably be hoodwinked into buying a game they wouldn't have otherwise bought if they had easier access to information that would have changed their mind. You want situations like this to occur. You should be ashamed of yourself.
I do have an issue with the new system being opt out considering the average consumer doesn't touch settings so this becomes the defacto standard. Even if reviews aren't being removed, I still am hesistant given we can't know the exact metrics by which what kinds of reviews are not counted for score consideration. Personally, I think they should have made it something like the next time people log in they get a prompt as to whether they want the new or old review system.
What the fuck are you even talking about? I don't have a problem with the reviews. I have a problem with Valve deciding what reviews I should be reading. Obviously there's a fucking conflict of interest!
If you can't make the connection you're legitimately retarded. Then again they're probably just paying SEA or Chinese ESL shitters to post this shit, so it makes sense that you can have such a poor grasp on the English language.