After beating DMC5 and unlocking a "new mechanic" I now understand why Capcom made Nero's robot arms breakable when hit. Especially considering powerful exploitable ones like Tomboy or Punchline. He is legit the strongest character against mobs/bosses on the harder difficulties. Don't even need the arms on mobs.
>can grab and slam most mobs repeatedly >can literally stay in the air picking up mobs one by one >can literally hold one in place using them as a meat shield making him pretty much invincible as he strikes the rest of the crowd >he can perform any combo and ability (aside from using the devil breaker) while holding said enemy >i literally stood there taunting as five other demons struck the demon i was holding for like 15 seconds
Jesus fuck, i'm on DMD right now, and I can tell, it's going to be a totally different pace when I play V and Dante especially V.....oh god RIP my gold orbs. Everyone who said V was OP did so while playing the easiest modes, because yeah, no.
V is braindead easy, it's basically impossible to die and it's hard not to get S ranks in his missions.
Brody Wilson
Yah V is shit, especially on that one mission where he looses his pets and you have fight with just one. Most. dragged.out.boss fight ever because that dumbass panther takes all day to get back to the boss if you dodge with him, and by the time he does, he doesn't land the hit because the boss moved, fuck V.
Alexander Jones
it's as if you didn't play nero in dmc4
Aiden Baker
Never played DMC4, but I like Nero, so he's making me want to check it out.
Austin Green
>He is legit the strongest character against mobs/bosses on the harder difficulties. Sounds like you haven't figured out how Top Gear works
Colton Brown
>no Royal Guard
Angel Brooks
Learn to help your summons dodge fag. DT is also an instant revive.
Blake Rivera
>strongest character >when tony "parry the world" redgrave exists
Brody Baker
Not him, but I legitimately dont understand how cavaliere gears works. Care to explain?
Grayson Wilson
How do you do it, other than using double jump and shadow dodge?
Xavier Evans
You hold the attack button and after a flash of lightning runs through the bike you release the button and hold again, the next attack will come with a red glow faster and stronger, do that same shit again and it'll go into max top gear or whatever it's called and shit's just insane in a mob, great style raiser even against single enemy Also you can chain cavaliere attack into other attacks, for example if you do two regular aerial attacks and then press the swordmaster button it'll instantly do the third aerial swordmaster attack in which he spins the bike around, the top gear also carries over to these attacks
Josiah Richardson
Fuck that, i'm too busy dodging myself especially because those little shits are made of paper and get rekt instantly. I am aware of the DT revive, he's still annoying af compared to Dante or Nero.
Lucas Collins
One word: Tomboy, trivializes every mob in the game aside from that giant grabby praying mantis thingy.
Christopher Green
You don't. But you stay close to the boss like Dante or Nero would so when you command them to attack they can actually do it in time.
Austin Williams
>I've never made it past DH difficulty!
Juan Rivera
>seethes for an entire month because of the D word
Jeremiah White
I made it all the way up till half way through DMD and Im bored of the game, waiting for a mod to fix what Dante looks like.
Elijah Reyes
Depends on the playstyle to be honest. V can be considered the strongest, easily. I just got 6200 style in mission 4 without doing much. Just mashing buttons and keeping myself from harm. Dante can be considered the strongest because of how frantic he is. Switching weapons and styles all the time, so many attacks and combos just fucking everything up, it's great. Nero is kinda boring imo. I have the hardest time getting over 5500 style in his missions.
Ryan Bailey
>nero kinda boring >v literally stationary and spams pets, then executes, rinse repeat
Nathaniel Phillips
His other exceed mechanic is kicking my ass. part of me wishes that it wasn't the same button as buster, since missing it causes you to buster an enemy, which can make you eat a hit. I wish that buster required you to hold down the button briefly so that there would be no setbacks to missing the timing, like normal exceed. Maybe I just need to git gud, but other than that I find Nero the funnest to play. When everything clicks together he's just a dps monster.
Isaiah Cox
Micromanaging the summons and doing combos with each others is pretty great. Charging one while comboing with the other. Calling nightmare, seeing everything explode. I think it's great fun.
Julian Carter
>since missing it causes you to buster an enemy, which can make you eat a hit. Just keep locked on and he does a snatch instead
Cooper Nguyen
You're honestly just bad.
Gabriel Ross
Good idea. I think I'll do that until I get the timing down.
Parker Wilson
There is nothing to micromanage, you literally spam square and triangle lol. Part I despise the character he is the least involved of the cast. Feels like you're litterally sitting there spamming two buttons, and up or down, and watching as pets do all the shit. Now I know why they didn't make the summoner in FFXIV a total summoner, because that's shits boring.
Nolan Lewis
Yeah well.....Nero can grab a boss by the tail and throw him into a building. That > explosions.
Jordan Carter
V was specifically made for casuals imo. On the easiest difficulty you can pretty much not ever take damage. And he's also the least efficient at comboing. Dante/Nero were made for the harder difficulties.
Gavin Price
please god someone tell me there's a way to run the legit game without Denuvo still. Capcom took the exe down off the thing
Gavin Moore
>hurr durr Unless you've got SLI RTX's with a 10 year old 2.fuckoff Ghz processor your CPU isn't your fucking bottleneck
Jeremiah Barnes
With Dante's arsenal it can hardly be considered hard. Nero is the only one that requires careful coordination to not get bashed in the head and have the style meter drop not to mention mastery of his limited actions. Only one sword and an arm breaker that can either be good or useless for the situation. His bringer is goat but doesn't increase the style too much.
Parker Howard
you download it.
>buying the game
cringe
David Reed
Only on low difficulties when his pets can tank damage, on DMD he's the hardest to play since they die to a slight breeze even fully upgraded
Jaxon Harris
>I made it all the way up till half way through DMD and Im bored of the game >waiting for a mod to fix what Dante looks like almost fell for it
Christopher Lewis
I did buy it, I just thought Denuvo might be the cause of the game slowing down in specific areas of specific missions.
Ian Anderson
Nah it's just a matter of having spare DT for quick revivals and buffing the pets, on my first DMD playthrough i had a much easier time with V on M7 and 13 than with the other dudes
Jaxon Jackson
>the game slowing down in specific areas of specific missions. Would that include Mission 7 on the hallway over the tracks as Nero? I have some dips there and using the Denuvo free .exe didn't help
Gabriel Bailey
FFS why do you neanderthals have to impose some stupid EASY MEDIUM HARD on the characters
Dante tests your memory and versatility, using the right moves/weapons out of his massive movelist for the situation. Nero tests your timing, with an emphasis on boosting your damage through ex and max ACT and managing charge shots and breakers V tests your multitasking, requiring the independent management of 3 characters at once as well as a heavy emphasis on constant use of and risky increases to DT
He does not require coordination at all, youre just bad. Nero's abilities are broken against every mob, armored ones included. V simply sucks at comboing, hence why there are no videos using him.
Hardest part with V was the horse fight because of its life and all I had to do was stay close to it. Otherwise for every fight just charge bird constantly for aoe shit and learn to angle the camera off screen to get nightmare readings constantly. I just stopped at chapter 10.
Im scared of chapter 12 the most thank god I learned about Cerberus back forward cheese versus Furies and ill be saving Sin DT. But that whole chapter including DMD Urizen 3 who I almost died to on SoS frantically is waiting for me with a bigger life bar.
Otherwise the rest is fine. Im not out for S ranks just wanna beat it all without gold orbs or checkpoints. I suspect chapter 18 will have shadow/griffon using DT.
Jonathan Nguyen
He gets a stand in DMC4.
Gabriel Perez
>I'm proud of my ignorance Very cool, very cool.
Joshua Foster
All I really want from this game is to be able to fight bosses in the void.
Levi Cruz
GO BABY GO!
Carter Garcia
I don't like his coat color, hoping someone makes various mods for him like they did in previous games.
I don't know how you can even fathom discussing powerlevels >Dante gets his ass absolutely handed to him by Urizen before SDT >Nero POTENTIALLY can defeat Urizen with a single arm before he even gets his DT
Full Custom something, you gotta buy it on the shop it's easy to find
Colton Johnson
Move V closer to the boss, dumbass. You have to think of Shadow as your close-range/melee attack, and Griffon as your guns. Do you stand far away with Dante and Nero and then complain about how shit their swords are too?
Wyatt Ross
>Thinks ill become a kung fu reaction master >Implying I don't just Cerbspin like everyone else and pop Sin DT when im scared otherwise.
Nice try you expect far to much of this jobber.
Ian Nguyen
>Reaction Nigga the least you need for Royal Revenge is reaction, hell you can easily build your RG metter against Furies just by holding block, two of his attacks should give you a charge for Royal Revenge which stuns him for a bit allowing for free damage
Ryan Murphy
Is it just me or is King Cerberus the hardest boss in the game? I have no idea how you're supposed to fight him. The loading screen says something about destroying his heads but I couldn't get them to pop. I had to cheese him out with projectiles to beat him on Son of Sparda.
He's not complicated if you know how to stay in the air over his head, most of his melee attacks will miss You just gotta back away before the AoE blast and deal with the projectiles that are soon to follow before going back to the offensive
Isaac Lewis
I'm gonna ask again, how do you make V enjoyable? His missions are a slog on DMD. I got an S on prologue, 1, 2, and 3, but the instant I switch to V I get a D Also fuck whoever thought it was a good idea to put behemoths everywhere
Jeremiah Wilson
What is the best none bitch made way to fight a Fury as Nero? Since he only ever fights one anyways on chapter 8 on SoS or higher. I don't remember what I did on SoS but on DMD I scummed it out by jumping against the camera so it wouldn't do shit and charge bustering it until it was dead.
Logan Perez
Ironically, playing on a lower res would put less stress on the gpu and make a drop in fps from denuvo far more likely
But then you're the kind of retard that thinks a bit of CPU utilization amounts to a flat fucking change in fps across specs so I don't expect you to understand how rendering bottlenecks work
Robert Morris
>Still can't dodge the icicle rain move from DMC3 cerberus reliably. >King Cerberus does that move except on crack. jesus christ
Asher Taylor
Stay in the air over his head, you only need to watch out for his stomp and lunge there. Back off when he switch modes Use shotgun or DSD's summon swords to destroy his lightning balls Block or spam dash when he summons icicles and stick close to him so he stop doing them
Jayden Lewis
I put the bird on auto attack (should be left trigger+what your bird button is) and manage the catto while reading.
Liam Ross
I mean if you aren't going for a good grade hell I usually get S or did on DH/SoS by just raping the chapter and then >Lightning phase just shoot him with rockets well avoiding ground shit and blowing up bolts for DT meter >Flame phase dodge and wait for 1-2 really long whiffs to get a few hits then reposition >Ice hit and run with DT stingers and rockets in between each barrage.
Worked on both DH/SoS I assume he does some whack shit on DMD and has more life but imma try to do the same.
Carter Sullivan
You can beat Urizen as Dante, before Nero arrives. Dante is the strongest DMC boi. Always was, always will be.
Dylan Collins
I'm only interested in this game to play as V and lost interest when you couldn't eventually choose any character for any level even in an arcade type mode.
Joshua Cruz
go to the void, practice fighting them for hours. Learn the tells, and then parry with the shuffle attack with decent timing. Then proceed to rape until he teleports away. You can usually get a good buster in with your attacks too. Remember that the Breaker Buster does like 4-8 times the damages of Nero's devil bringer buster, if you want to end the fight quickly, you can charge buster finish him after a skillful parry.
Xavier Nelson
>Nero is the only one that requires careful coordination to not get bashed in the head what the fuck are you talking about. Nero is the direct opposite of that. He's got access to a fuckload of defensive skills and all of them cancel any attack, allowing to go full unga bunga all the time
RGing him is child's play, make him your bitch until he goes to swap element, trick away, trick back, and continue. Watch for the tracking icicles and tracking orbs and trick/shoot as necessary between pounding his face into pulp
Nathan Walker
Be aggressive, and guard his swap explosions.
Isaac Torres
There's already a redder coat mod available
Ryder Carter
>not playing on fun mode laughing at sweaty autists
How the fuck did you get a D? Orbs or dying all day? I died once to Greyon Knight. I used an orb and felt bad so I redid it and rushed him down carefully and nearly perfected him. The hardest part of V on DMD is on chapter 5 that fucking first room with like 5-6 Lizards that do 1/3rd of your life in a hit and DT super early.
Nidhogg was easy thankfully. I was surprised all I had to do was map the bird to L1 so I could charge it over and over for big damage and nightmare gain. Its not enjoyable at all. I never liked V even on DH to be honest its very boring and feels really uninvolved since the best way to use him basically has you so close to your pets you might as well be a melee character on DMD.
Blake Anderson
you are right, but that is also why Nero is the most fun character to play as. Going unga bunga and absolutly smashign enemies is fun as fuck.
Landon Baker
It's massively telegraphed, watch for the ice pup to blow upwards and start tricking
David Gomez
>Practice fighting them for hours >Already got an S on the one chapter for Nero with one on DMD.
Ill hold my fucking shame thank you.
James Smith
Dude it's not even that hard to max ACT. Way easier compared to 4.
Isaac James
It's not a new mechanic. That was the entirety of 4.
>robot arms more powerful than Demonic powers >Human computational power doubles roughly every 18 months >demons have not advanced in 1000 years >AT ALL
So how long till Human tech starts literally shit stomping demons?
Angel Watson
How did you get that much air off that? Thats super cool.
Noah Morgan
Nero has more versatility than V tbqh from a gameplay perspective especially after completion of the game it goes dante nero v
Dante has the more versatile combat mechanics, Nero however has the most versatile ways of playing.
In addition to his base arsenal, every arm has their own unique playstyle, special, and trick.
Go from having an ironman cannon, to riding on a missle damaging mobs each time you go by, shooting bosses at a distance with tomboy's mass effect gun bullshit, slow time. You can play him as an entirely ranged character if you want. You can play him as a pure wrestler if you want. By comparison V just a pokemon trainer with base pokemon.
>I am fucking retarded Don't bother with benchmarks if you can't fucking read them.
is absolutely fucking correct. You'd have to put any machine above min specs on fucking 480i all low for denuvo to have an appreciable impact on framerate.
What are your specs including monitor refresh rate, I will tell you if denuvo matters for you
Nicholas Lopez
Soon. Reminder that canonically Nero with the Devil Breaker > Dante with DT and Sparda since Dante got bitchslapped twice and Nero made Urizen get off his throne after destroying his shield.
Hunter White
He's actually less powerful without it. It's absurd how strong he is cyborg'd up. >Nero was the bionic commando sequel we needed
Adam Rodriguez
>mission 7 on DMD Jesus Christ Nero has no fucking checkpoints and the lizards buttfuck him. Should I go the V route instead?
>buster a lizard >instead of doing the throw, just hold the faggot >now you are invincible for as long as you want, and you won't stop being invincible until the lizard you are holding dies from friendly fire >rinse and repeat
Lincoln Cook
His DT move is great, melts mobs, whenever I do it (since it takes so long to charge up) I usually grab and hold one of the demon mobs so they can soak all the damage while it's charging. It's crazy that you can do that move while holding an enemy as a shield.
Gavin Sanders
I'm surprised by its range this time around, i was scared my attacks made the dude flinch too far out of reach but it still hit, in DMC4 that shit definitively wouldn't have landed
Samuel Hall
Use Payline to parry then Hard Way to bounce him which let's you grab. Repeat 3 times and he's dead even on DMD
Ian Taylor
>if you throw an enemy back towards crew cut he freaks out while Nico keeps smoking
Don't in this universe human blood makes demons stronger, isn't Nero more human than either Vergil or Dante? Nero also regrew his arm, Dante ain't never did that shit. The game was pretty much laying out there that base Nero was pretty hot shit. I remember even one of the demons was like HOW ARE YOU DIS POWAFULZ STILL. Add that to the fact he was the one to break Urizens shield and even Dante commented on how hard his bitchslap was, leads me to believe Nero hits hard as fuck. Mother fucking rocky in this bitch.
David Campbell
I managed to get S rank on some of V's DMD missions. He's easy to rack up style with still, but bosses are definitely a bigger pain in the ass now. I feel like I spent way too much time on the quicksilver horse fight. I actually have to focus on the positioning of my summons now because of how easily they die. I didn't like the sidestep or double jump bringing the summons back before, but I'm starting to appreciate it a little now.
Austin Foster
SOS does, everything above just copies SOS
Connor Thomas
Try staggering him, he staggers super easy when he's getting ready to use it. I'd just save DT for Ice Doge and try to nuke it. If you want you could even focus damage on the ice head when he's in lightning mode, damage carries over for a while
Joshua Peterson
I think the bike is pretty for the most part but all of its air combos are really good. Like, REALLLY good.
Brody Price
How come when I play as Dante he's constantly switching between modes
Easton Scott
There are some differences from SOS to DMD, but then Hell and Hell and Heaven or Hell both use SOS placements.
Joshua Baker
Spin immediately followed by hop inherits your momentum from when you just mounted the missile or when you last touched the ground. It also doesn't count as a jump allowing you to jump infinitely.
>HOW ARE YOU DIS POWAFULZ STILL I mean that's also literally every demon Dante faced
Austin Evans
Auto-Assist
Jack Flores
>mobs
It's not an mmo. You sound like a fag
Brayden Lopez
The fight against griffon, shadow, and nightmare wrecks my shit on higher difficulties. How do I manage? I know good ways to cheese that shit (motorcycle for bird, ebony/ivory back forward for cat) but the issue is style rank. I can barely keep that shit above a B, and even if I get it higher, one cheeky meme pellet from the bird or one of the cat's zero telegraphed, super large hitbox attacks knocks my rank down to nothing.
So I should keep Bringer on Right Trigger as opposed to Right Face Button is what you're telling me?
Xavier Cook
That was Malphas, who straight up thought Nero was a human until he literally stomps on her head.
Kayden Miller
Trigger or Bumper is fine, basically anywhere that allows you to hit it alongside your melee. I use LB
Alexander Nelson
I dunno. I mean, it took Nero ten years to get a proper Devil Trigger. He managed to take down a tired and wounded Dante and Vergil, but Arkham was able to do the same thing.
Human blood empowers demons, but the demonic blood is outright where that power comes from the in the first place. I doubt someone who's only got, like, 1/10 demon blood would be all that powerful.
Jaxson Jenkins
I just can't get used to Devil Bringer being on a trigger. It's way too uncomfortable.
James Howard
Start holding enemies and you'll be grateful it's on a trigger
Isaiah Hill
I have Buster on Square and Breaker on O with gun on R2. Currently on SoS. Now with V I switched Griffon and Nightmare.
Zachary Martin
remap the input then
Anthony Nelson
what is the usage of holding enemies? is it worth it? I never found it that useful in 4
Landon Morris
But in this universe FULL demons get their asses kicked all the time by the sons of sparda, so lower amount doesn't translate to weaker. Fuggin base DT Nero over here going toe to toe with daddy in SDT. That's no small feat, AND it was his first time doing it. AND he wasn't even trying to harm anyone because the goal was to make them stop fighting.
Jason Wilson
>way too uncomfortable >when you have to hold enemies and knuckle >when you have to stop locking up for buster and also have wire snatch anyway Just put it on the bumper above exceed and make that trigger DT or breakaway.
Parker Campbell
Thank you very much, that sounds awesome. Would you say Cavalier R is better than the basic version?
Luke Myers
They bitch slapped him away when he tried to stop them later on.
Andrew Nguyen
I haven't used the normal version to be honest so i couldn't even tell you what's the difference aside from the extra move R has, but that extra move is so cool i don't see why i wouldn't want it available for me
Luke Rodriguez
>10 years Nero was like 16-18 in DMC4 and DMC5 is at most 5 years after DMC4.
Christian Gonzalez
Quick question. How do you deal with Malphas' AoE attack where she goes to the center of the arena and starts gathering energy?
Alexander Reyes
Wasn't rolling on the ground like Dante though kek
Easton Davis
I'm not that far into the game, only just got to the first Dante mission.
Is V suppose to be so braindead? Like, I can get SSS on Nero by getting Max Act and using all of my moves and it feels good. It's a lot harder on Dante but it still feels good.
V is just pressing L1 then mashing square and triangle while choosing to either read a book or twirl my cane then eventually pressing circle on a dead enemy and I get SSS without even thinking.
Josiah Harris
And Nero bitch slapped Dante? What's your point? Also Nero without DT did much better against Urizen than DT Dante with Sparda. Nero is just much more powerful than Dante at his age.
Brody Ramirez
That's an AoE attack? I never let it finish once 'cause i just smashed her shit while she was there in the center doing nothing and eventually she flinches
Colton Young
Perhaps, and also it could be because he is stubborn and determined like his father.
William Rodriguez
I used Punchline to uppercut her into the air and then buster'd her. It's really satisfying.
David White
Got it. I thought you were supposed to dodge it and that fucked me.
Juan Jackson
All I really want from this game is to be able to fight bosses in the void.
Sebastian Fisher
the bosses are shit though
Aiden Gomez
Itsuno's methods are pretty tasteless. >"I made an OC who has more potential than Dante with the intention of replacing him."
Bentley Sanchez
Itsuno clearly doesn't care about the series. I don't know how 3 was so good but 4, DmC, and DmC2 are pretty heartless with fucked up development.
That's just a standard Japanese trope. They love it when the "new" generation surpasses the old one effortlessly. Besides Nero being stronger than Dante has been a thing since the DMC4 novel where Dante literally states that he has more raw power than him after seeing him buster the Savior.
Bruh, Dante is still OP as fuck. Why does it matter whether Nero may have a little more juice or not? All 3 of them are still OP. Honestly I wouldn't be surprised if he's a little stronger, he literally has extra arms and his playstyle revolves around grabbing and beating shit like Kratos.
Literally, Dante survived meteors. Literally Nero was pinned to a wall with multiple swords and one big as one through his entire chest, Dante had the same shit happen. Both walked away from that shit. They both OP.
Christopher Scott
>That's just a standard Japanese trope. They love it when the "new" generation surpasses the old one effortlessly. After watching Spiderverse and Captain Marvel i'm pretty sure the west does that shit way worse
Christian Gomez
That's actually pretty crazy to think that there are people who grew up with Nero and that when these people think of DMC they think of Nero. I don't really see where in 5's story the theme of getting fired up was or what Itsuno could have wanted to do since 3.
Kevin Ross
That's only because Nero's Devil Breaker can cover more surface area. Dante was overpowering the Savior even without Devil Trigger.
Logan Diaz
How do I do the follow up Buster hits after Red Queen swings while in DT? Is it just part of doing Ex-Act or do I need to hit R2?
This shit is exactly why Nero belongs in the game. He's simple and intuitive while still having depth and power once you delve into his combat style.
Dante is still stronger, gameplay wise, but he's a fucking technical nightmare that only character action junkies can really take full advantage of.
V is great, I love his playstyle but he has serious problems on DMD. Mainly that he just doesn't have enough damage output if he isn't steam rolling with nightmare out
Gabriel Sullivan
Just hit the buster button, and you don't need to be in DT
Mason Thomas
They just don't give a fuck. Casuals making the game and newfags playing it.
Juan Phillips
You don't need to hold the button, just tap to attack and tap again when the lightning starts.
Hunter Robinson
>Go M13 as Nero to practice a little >Great, the Dante guy is already in the hole >Using Sin DT's Macross laser spam targeting the spawner and immediatly destroying the blood thing to go down the hole without even cleaning the room >Motherfucker does this every encounter and clears the mission without fighting a single enemy while i keep them occupied You're getting no gold orb from me no sir
>first time going through DMD >no gold orbs/red orb revives, no checkpoints >M11 >get to Cavaliere Angelo fight >literally one hit away >die because I didn't expect him to repeat the teleport stab I'm ready to McFucking kill myself.
I admit I got into the series with 4 and have an attatchment to that OC but the power gains he made in 5 are fucking stupidly big. He should have basically been irrelevant when you have Dante reach Sin DT. In DMC4 DT Nero couldn't even beat base Dante.
Isaac Evans
there's a fucking 20 year gap between them, Nero simply has more potential than Dante, who with SinDT has reached his Apex.
Nero probably isn't there yet, but he certainly is close, as he could do things to Vergil like interrupt certain moves that Dante cannot.
Colton Hall
>watching Captaib Marvel Self-harm is no joke my dude
Adam Ross
Nero is fun but he is essentially the easy mode of the series and the trend continues into 5. The only real thing that lets Dante have a level playing field is that the new clash/parry mechanic is on a lot of enemy types, discounting the sin DT bullshit.
Being able to bring an enemy to you and just continually hit them for exceeds will never not be busted compared to the effort Dante has to put in for the same thing.
Grayson Parker
Just feels odd that he's pulling stuff like this off without even using a Devil arm anymore.
I guess some of Sparda's better genes could have skipped a generation.
Robert Collins
You essentially do the exact same shit with Nero. charge gun and use sword for hitting. only difference is that Nero actually has to stay close to the action.
>M11 on SoS >get to Cavaliere Angelo >get my shit pushed in >restart from checkpoint >die in just a few hits >restart from checkpoint again >realize my health doesn't refill from a checkpoint Has this always been the case? I don't remember DMC3 or 4 not refilling your health upon a checkpoint.
One of the many disadvantages of having friends At least we got to talk about DMC but fucking hell that movie man >tfw my movie goer brother gave it 4 stars
why do you think Nero's color scheme is red, blue and purple?
Leo Nelson
I always forget that the shield move is a thing, should probably use that a lot more.
Asher Nguyen
>I don't know how 3 Because he knows how to make a good game, DMC3 Dante was barely like DMC1 Dante, it was a prequel for an obvious reason, to let Itsuno make the Dante he finds cool, and after DMC3 he was planning on going back to his dream project, Dragon's Dogma Then next gen happened and there was no one else but him with knowledge on how to direct a DMC game at Capcom so he was thrown back in, Problem is he doesn't like making the same game so he made Nero, just like he made V for DMC5 He seems to care about the series a bit more now that it's pretty much almost completley made by him DmC has little to do with Itsuno and he seemed to not like many of the approaches Ninja Theory took with the game
I don't even care about whether or not V is good. He's just so fucking boring. I wouldn't care if I didn't have to play as him but holy shit there's so many V missions.
I think Elder Geryon Knight is just not well-designed for V despite being his exclusive boss. He warps around way too much. Shadow/Griffon also die super fast to any boss even with maxed upgrades. Fights against basic mobs are mostly fine.
Nidhogg is a lot more manageable but also fairly boring (not dogshit but definitely on the lower tier of DMC5 bosses).
Dominic Campbell
You retain the same health you had until a checkpoint, at least I noticed it playing on DH with DMC5, in previous games I think you got your full health back but no DT gauge.
Alexander Jones
I honestly prefer just using gerbera (trickster) and no other arms.
Jonathan Cooper
Cooler never jobs!
Gabriel Stewart
I don't think he has much higher to go honestly. Especially since it's about time for another new protagonist.
Gabriel Moore
So I guess next Dante's kid's gonna show up and surpass Nero.
Logan Foster
sure he does, get a Devil Arm of his own, everyone seems to forget he has none at all when comparing him to Dante/Vergil.
Isaac Barnes
I feel like V is to DMC5 what Nero was to 4. He's "press button to awesome" for newer fans just like Nero's buster moves were.
Gavin Harris
he has a literal devil arm. its kinda still there even after getting a human one.
Jack Green
Would it eliminate people having to claw if you held down r2 and your face buttons became the style wheel instead?
Thomas Morales
He has the Red Queen and that's as close as he's getting.
Juan Gomez
that's just his DT that bleeds into his normal form, which is a power Dante and Vergil simply do not have.
Charles Nguyen
punchline feels fun to use but i can't wrap my head around how the fuck you're supposed to deal damage when you're riding on it
Brody Wilson
>how the fuck you're supposed to deal damage when you're riding on it you're not supposed to. riding punchline is solely for building up your style meter
Wyatt Gomez
Gun attack homes in on enemies, use it to position yourself to the target then either use triangle for a sick flip or circle to launch the enemies then go with either < / > / ^ + triangle to do a trick, jump off of punchline and chase the enemy
Isaac Allen
Press X for a speedboost and ram it into demons. This will deal some damage and knock an entire group airborne.
Luis Reyes
Feels a bit weird that we keep on expecting our protagonists to be cycled out now.
Maybe it's the fact for all of DMC's claims for being all about the gameplay it still needs some narrative weight that's hard to maintain across entries when you have the protags continue to level up so to god tier.
Jace Scott
>Usually kill Goliath with Shadow first on V's boss rush >Decide to go with a different order because I heard that Shadow bodies Cavaliere >Get Nightmare for when I do end up fighting Goliath >This happens
Holy shit, I didn't even know. This is the game that just keeps on giving.
>Itsuno made a mad gambit and told Capcom to let him make DMC5 otherwise he'd resign on the spot >Capcom gave in to based curazy man youtu.be/KgwgFPkZ3LQ?t=790
Eli Collins
I'm the opposite, I really enjoy his style but I just wish he was more workable on higher difficulties and had some sort of extra tech to tie it his kit together. Kind of like what reading the book is, but that feels a bit passive.
They actually showed off V fighting M2 Goliath in one of the early trailers, made me wonder if you could select any character for any mission before they decided against it, especially considering V has a Vergil finisher too.
Carter Kelly
Is it viable to pick nightmare first and lame it out while reading?
Easton Watson
>so many V missions There's only 4 of them. One of them is just a mini-boss rush.
Ryder Johnson
Anyone got any tips for fighting Nobody's? They seem to just wander around doing whatever they like with unlimited hyperarmour, and just before I either dive kicked into a grab attack or they teleported me into a grab attack
Andrew Murphy
That boss rush was super fun on DMD
Jason Bell
To be fair it does harken back to Kamiya's original concept. Which was that DMC would be like Castlevania or JoJo and cycle protagonists down generations.
Cooper Morgan
>the fury
what the fuck? how do you combo this guy? he's so fast
Best order I've found is: >Cavaliere Shadow >Goliath Shadow/Nightmare >Artemis Shadow/Nightmare/Griffon
Angel Thompson
I mean, eventually there's gonna be a limit. Human blood makes demons stronger, but how much demon blood is the minimum? Ten generations down the line with no fresh demon blood, will the latest progeny be anywhere near as strong as the older ones? It's like people who claim to be "part Cherokee", except the latest Cherokee ancestor was from 1860.
Hudson Hernandez
actually yeah. there, and the part of that mission from the beta where you're chasing the red orb empusa before the first arena fight.
Henry Mitchell
Parry him with Cerberus and Balrog
Wyatt Torres
So long as they have the soul of Sparda they will be strong.
Thomas Anderson
How do you parry with V?
James Gutierrez
Dragons Dogma is overrated as fuck.
Bentley Phillips
Cane
Adam Wright
Try getting past the first fight in mission 5 on dmd and tell me about your visit to hell
Isaiah Johnson
It's possible. Boring as shit but possible.
Andrew Turner
People are sleeping on Quadruple S what the fuck is going on with that skill.
Colton Martinez
Whatever you say man, I don't really care about the game my self since I'm not too keen on RPGs. People seem to like it and if they're happy than all is good in my book
Jacob Ross
Has anyone on PC used V against Malphas yet?
John Butler
I wish V had more actual commands for himself. Like his own forward and back inputs to employ in combat.
Cooper Diaz
All I really want from this game is to be able to fight bosses in the void.
Justin Evans
Come to think of it, is there a single fight against Fury when you play as V, on any difficulty? I don't think so. Bloody Palace would be the only time it's possible. And the Void of course.
Bentley Ramirez
It's pretty much the only way to actually use SinDT on higher difficulty without getting kek'd hard.
Juan Rogers
I don't think Fury would be that hard as V, thanks to Griffon and hedgehog. The main difficulty would be dodging or parrying right so they summons won't get cancelled.
Dominic Jenkins
Fury is just too fucked to work with him. That enemy requires good predictions and reactions and Vs kit isnt truly made for that.
Anthony Cook
This whole idea that being genetically more human is the same as absorbing gallons of blood from other humans is ridiculous. Sparda's progeny are strong because he's Sparda.
Charles Sanders
I personally use Sin DT on DMD to delete enemies (with L2) I really hate dealing with. Hell Judecca is at the top of the list.
Lincoln Jackson
Again, though, what's the limit? Eventually you're gonna reach a point where the amount of demon blood in the progeny's veins is so negligible that it may as well not be there. They won't really be biologically demon anymore.
Jacob Lee
Maybe it's the one drop rule. 100 generations of Sparda, still demon.
Jeremiah Gomez
Definitely on DMD and I'm pretty sure on SoS too in the underground section before reaching the phone in mission 5 you can spawn a Fury by going the wrong way, but it's not a mandatory fight.
Cameron Reed
I assume as generations passed, descendants would go from super hero like abilities to just above average humans. Kinda like how in Dragon Ball, specifically the old DB Online, Saiyan characters had to wish for their potential to be unlocked to be able to go SS since their Saiyan blood wasn't enough. In canon DB however, Pan has shown a lot of potential to be strong.
Matthew Robinson
How much demon blood can be lost before the bloodline starts to weaken? The only reason the Sparda bloodline's so strong is probably because it's, you know, Sparda. This nigga was so strong he beat the shit out of Mundus and his entire army. Guy was legit the strongest demon around. Like if someone were half human and half, I dunno, Hell Pride, they'd probably still be pretty shit. Though you'd have to have some pretty bizarre ass fetishes to fuck a Hell Pride. Anyway, the more the Sparda blood thins, the less potent it'll probably eventually become. Shit, it took Nero like two games to get a real Devil Trigger.
John Gutierrez
>doing DMD >on Mission 4 >doing pretty well >get to nidhogg >he fucking keeps doing some dumb untelegraphed slam attack from off screen that kills me fuck V and fuck this fight I fucking hate this character
Noah Scott
Just checked, Fury is absolutely doable with V. Hitting it with a fully charged round robin is piss easy.
Nathaniel Long
I'm not even sure Nero in 5 is older than Dante was in 3, when he got his DT. Maybe he's a bit older, but Dante also got his because Vergil stabbed him with Rebellion.
Lucas Jones
Dante was around 19 in DMC3. Nero was in his late 20s in DMC5, roughly the same age as Dante was in DMC1.
Jose Nelson
idk man. He seems pretty mid 20s to me
Logan Nguyen
I'm only on mission 12 so far on DMD but elder knight geryon or whatever the hell he was called was horrific as v, easily the hardest boss I've fought so far. Took me like almost 10 minutes and I was about 1 pixel away from dying at the end. Ended up getting A rank'd by him despite not dying the whole run and having a full healthbar when I entered his arena
Jason Barnes
Where can I watch the anime at? Also is it in jap or dubbed?
Dominic Ortiz
Why do people assume Dante has no developmental potential left? He's got Vergil to perpetually spar with and constantly push him. Why would he slow down when he just showed he can still keep going beyond?
Logan Bailey
That was approximately the age I would have pegged him at before, but we already know they've retconned aspects of the timeline with 5, and the History video on the title screen says that DMC3 was decadeS after Eva was killed, so at minimum, 20 years. Dante couldn't have been younger than five in the flashback we see in the game, which would make him mid-to-late 20s
Benjamin Young
I'm out of the loop regarding rumors on DLC, but I heard Vergil is confirmed, and Trish/Lady campaign is a maybe. Can someone post actual proof of this? All I heard from official sources are just free Bloody Palace DLC
Jordan Gomez
No proofs other than a bit of code and the fact that vergil is technically playable already.
Michael Walker
Because they're caught up in powerlevel bullshit. There is no cap on strength in an action series (or any other series, though obviously it matters less there).
Vergil has files in the game that allow him to be a selectable character by just telling the game to load him instead of other characters. He's very incomplete but he's playable and has moves that (afaik) he doesn't use in the boss fight, as well as unique side-roll animations.
Luis Perez
>Shadow/Griffon also die super fast to any boss even with maxed upgrades You're supposed to get close to the fight and manually dodge Shadow/Griffon out of harm's way
Austin Hernandez
The only way I could see Dante or Vergil advancing any further than this is at the other's expense, which I don't know that the series will ever do. Their rivalry is practically the core of the series right now. Dante taking Yamato (by defeating or outlasting Vergil) and merging it with his sword to become indisputably beyond Sparda is all I can imagine. Not that you can't argue he's stronger already.
What is the extra move? I hadn't noticed any differences.
Charles Allen
All this talk about different missions on DMD and I cant even get Shadow to teleport to the enemy reliably. The little buzzsaw lizards fuck me up too.
Oliver Garcia
The closest thing they'd probably give for a Devil Arm for Nero would be if a demon fused with Red Queen or Blue Rose like what happened with Cavaliere Angelo.
Isaac Bell
air stinger, I think only with swordmaster
Hudson James
Oh yeah? Did you imagine that he would use rebellion to absorb Sparda? It has an aerial stinger but no super armor.
Jaxon Hall
You might not be the right person to ask seeing as you're having trouble with it, but how do you make shadow teleport at all? All I know how to do is bring him back to me with sidedodges, and I've seen him teleport, but I didn't know it was something you could make him do at all.
Ryan Long
Because in 5, the big bad is written as his greatest challenge yet, and it's his own brother. Vergil as Urizen probably gave Dante more trouble than anything else in his life that we know of, he also succeeded and has killed more people on-screen than any other antagonist to date. Remember, Dante fights the series' biggest antagonist in his first game and another ruler of Hell immediately in the sequel.
There's probably a reason why 5 does a bait and switch and the antagonist turns out to be Vergil again, it's hard to write a satisfying story if you just squeeze in a, "Oh, there's ANOTHER dude who's even stronger than this other dude..." You could rehash Vergil yet again, but in my opinion they were kind of pushing it in 5 already. They could do something like Malphas where the demons are combining together to form some kind of superdemon, but it's a fine line to tread, even for a balls to the wall, whatever goes franchise.
Ryder Perry
Is there anyone here on HoH mode?
Michael Clark
Nero with Devil Bringer and Yamato was stupid broken in 4, but I still don't think he's even at DMC4 Dante's level yet.
Jonathan Phillips
No, but I'm also being optimistic and assuming that Dante won't rely solely on multiple consecutive asspulls to stay relevant.
Austin Murphy
do you get the same ending text if that happens?
Nathaniel Sullivan
Demon blood provides the raw power, human blood feeds that power. Now the question is how the scaling works. If we assume that human blood doubles the power of demonic blood then a full demon would have a base of 1 with no multipliers for a total power level of 1.
A half-demon would have a base of 1/2 but each demon blood cell would have one human blood cell for a 2x boost for a final power level of 1(1/2x2). This seems about right since Dante's achievements put him a bit above Sparda when he's serious and Vergil is a bit below Dante so they have around the same power as Sparda with variance coming from experience and personal factors.
Nero as a 1/4 demon would have 1/4 base power and 3 human blood cells per demon blood cell providing a 2^3 or 8x boost. Which would make his total latent power 1/4x8 or 2. But he's way younger, less experienced with demonic shit and combat in general so he's around even with the Sparda sons atm.
If there's no lower limit on how much demon blood you need to gain power from it then the lower the ratio the more powerful you are. Someone with 1/32 demon blood would have 31 human blood cells per demon blood cell for a 2^31 boost on a 2^-5 base for a total power of 2^26 or 67108864. So this gets very stupid very quickly.
Lucas Martinez
Who here is going to try to get all S ranks? Are there any of you just going through the difficulties without worrying about ranks?
Cooper Garcia
>Snatch all enemies into a small space >Overcharge ragtime >Devil Trigger >S H O W D O W N
My plan is to just go through the difficulties, try to aim for higher ranks but not redo missions if I get a lower one, then come back to try and S rank them, but I just don't know if I'm as good at vidya any more.
Nicholas Carter
how do you trick away? also can the AoE blasts not be royal guarded?
Landon Young
That doesn't answer the question though. Why is it not possible for Dante to have mire potential when he's already gone beyond his limit again?
Cameron Wilson
Yeah right now S ranks actually mean something, not like in dmc 4 where S rank meant you destroyed every single chair and table just to get all those orbs while rushing through a mission. I really enjoy how it's ranked right now.
Connor Hughes
These fucking slowdowns and stuttering on SoS is fucking killing me, man. Is it because i'm skipping all the cutscenes? Even setting It to DX11 isn't fixing anything. Fuck.
>how do you trick away? he means sky star >also can the AoE blasts not be royal guarded? you can but it's better to be safe than sorry if you don't have enough RG experience yet
Ryan Anderson
Works on my vega 56 in 4k :)
John Cox
Really I only care about clearing SoS mode so I can get proper Dante equipment load-outs. Tired of being shoehorned into HAVING to take E&I AND one of the swords. I wanted it like DMC3 where it didn't matter.
Sebastian Wilson
>Using DT to interrupt or stagger bosses and fucking ripping them apart with showdown It's like they knew everyone's favorite boss in 4 was Credo
Oh, were you asking purely power level wise? Yeah, I don't know. This is the franchise where if the devs want something, it happens. Until 5 Dante didn't even have a consistent DT appearance. And from a gameplay perspective, it all comes down to what they can add to him without breaking the players' fingers.
Hudson Kelly
I got a 1060, Ryzen 5, and 16 gigs of ram, this shouldn't be happening. Must be something with REngine, this never happened with RE2 though
Robert Turner
Where exactly is the stuttering happening ? If it's in missions with cameos then try setting cameo to offline mode as it tends to cause the game to lag like crazy, especially when connecting to other players
James Peterson
>all that meat >doesn't touch it The goodest of boys
Jaxon Moore
>playing V in Devil hunter >haha yeah this is neat, it's like the action game equivalent of the diablo 2 necromancer or at least the closest thing to >playing V in SoS >okay yeah the limit is already being approached
It happens randomly, but I can see it happening when it cameos. It seems to happen during fights, even on ones with no cameos like mission 10 and 11.
Luke Myers
How do you ride it? I can never figure the command out.
Parker Brown
hold circle while it comes back and jump or be in the air.
Brody Russell
Literally just hold the devil breaker button after it's out.
Parker Morales
Grab some monitoring application to check the load on the CPU, GPU and memory. Perhaps you've got a bottleneck somewhere
Ethan Williams
you can be grounded when it comes back
Jace James
Would task manager work?
Liam Walker
Quadruple S outright makes Dante the most obscenely strongest individual in the game.
Leo White
Only if you have 2 monitors.
William Cook
Fugg, alright.
Anthony Reed
Dunno how well task manager tracks the stats
Luis Baker
I keep doing this one. I feel like Goliath is probably the hardest one simply because he is always on your face. The flying Lady Boss is reaaaaally easy with Griffon.
Ethan Long
>just beat Vergil on SoS >he had a little bit of health left >grab move on vergil and his double >Jackpot How did I never see that before, perfect way to end that fight.
I haven't got it yet, what exactly does it do? The description just makes it sound like you can disable SDT on command if you enter it while in SSS rank, which makes it sound like a QoL feature more than anything.
Julian Cook
Why is everything in this game weirdly slow? Even the fucking menu selections are slow. Is it so they dont scare away the normie souls plebs?I feel like they need to add turbo mode just to make this game play at a proper speed
You can enter and exit SDT on command with 0 delay so you can keep comboing as you exit SDT.
Benjamin Scott
So what happened to Gilgamesh? How did Dante lose the devil arm and how did it come back
Camden Smith
It allows you to go into and out of SDT with no delay and no use of your SDT gauge if you're SSS rank.
Given that you have enough time to do the back attack fuck huge aoe explosion and that attack stuns everything including boss, it's a bit strong.
Luis Baker
Can someone explain why people keep saying this? I don't get how to succeed and get SSS with him in the slightest.
Hudson Ramirez
Gilgamesh isn't the name of a demon, at least not solely, it's the name of a type of demonic metal. The boss in 5 is just Qliphoth roots covered in gilgamesh metal as armor.
Asher Gonzalez
People say that because on DH and SoS you can flat out mash and beat everything including all of the bosses. The story changes in DMD
Elijah Sullivan
Someone told me you double tap away and then shadow's attack button.
Chase Smith
>enter and exit >go into and out of >no use of your SDT gauge Oh okay, that shit definitely sounds busted. Time to go buy it.
Jackson Baker
There's limitations. You have to charge it still and you only get like 3 seconds inside before you should deactivate it. If you take longer than that you'll lose your opportunity and start burning SDT gauge as per normal
Jaxson Martinez
Yeah... I'm still on DH... Mind you I only played 2 missions with v, I don't think I got anything above S in combos. Still managed to get S rank on one of the missions though, but I really don't get how to succeed or get SSS with him.
Parker Cook
>So how long till Human tech starts literally shit stomping demons? Nero's arm exists. It already is.
Jordan Reed
My end goal is to platinum this game. I absolutely love the game and the franchise so I'll try my best.
I'm playing through the difficulties with S rank in mind but if I don't get it I can just retry at another time.
>King Cerberus or Morrison can say "Devil May Cry" at the title screen I'm really starting to appreciate this little add-on. Haven't heard Vergil say it, yet.
tbf I already think they could've dropped a nuke or two on that dumb tree and get it over with.
Jason King
All I can say is fuck mission 10 and 18.
Jason Robinson
But he gets SSStyled on by Urizen even after he gets his well functioning arm. Vergil would have smashed him to paste with just the hilt of Yamato if he didn't get his DT back. That's not even mentioning that the human tech is powered by demon shit, so it still counts as demon power.
A human with a tech-based, demon-fueled DT would be dope, like a Jap Van Helsing or something.
Camden Green
He says it, kind of doesn't sound like him though. It's the voice tone he uses in the secret ending, which is a different tone than he's ever used before.
Owen King
one thing that helps is I changed my set ups so important buttons are on the left side, and I turn my right hand so my palm is facing down at the controller and hit the face buttons with my right hand fingers.
It makes it way easier to do things like combo melee while charging a range blast, vice versa.
Dominic Gutierrez
Or just open the hell gate and drop a couple hundred H-bombs right into the demon realm.
Noah Gomez
Between 3 and 4 Dante became stronger than Sparda without getting an anime powerup, he just fought strong opponents, and right now he has the strongest opponent he's ever had and nothing to do but fight.
Jace Butler
I only tried it once, heard Reuben breathily moan out Devil May Cry and turned it off immediately.
Julian Murphy
Yeah, I kinda had a feeling you were supposed to be attacking while charging the griffin's attacks. It feels really difficult, but I'll give what you said a go.
Kayden Sullivan
How the fuck can you tell when Vergil is going to rapid judgement cut or slow JC, shit fucks with my royal guard timing and you eat so much damage if you fuck up on DMD.
Isaac Hughes
Speaking of the Devil May Cry at the title screen, is it me or does the default female voice sound flat? In 1 it sounded really cool with some sort of echo effect but here it just sounds, again, flat. I hope someone can mod it somehow.
Cooper Richardson
Just put the bird on the back of the controller, makes it way easier. You should do the same for guns on the other characters so you can charge your guns while in the middle of a combo with no hassle.
Kayden Richardson
How the fuck do I use Balrog
Feels like it’s ten times more complicated than any weapon I’ve used yet
Matthew Bailey
try reading
Austin Allen
dmc3 icicle rain has ice stuff on the ground telling you where it's going to be dropping, by the time the first one drops almost all of it is spawned dmc5 pretty much follows you constantly, I didn't see any cue as to where it's dropping
Caleb Stewart
Shadow teleports based on range. If you're too far away from the enemy she will get close to them, but a the right distance she will teleport whenever she attacks something she wouldn't otherwise reach.
Austin Bennett
>she did you just assume xis gender?
Angel Mitchell
IGNITE THE FLAME by punching enemies in blow mode or dancing by holding triangle in kick mode. This will buff you and allow you to do real impact and kick 13 once you've gotten SM 4. After a while the effect will wear down.
Adrian Long
So I'm not the only one who gets their shit pushed in by DMC5 Cerberus's icicles.
Wyatt Hall
Honestly I just dash in a circle around him on that move
Wyatt Bennett
PLAYABLE
TRISH
WHEN
Benjamin Roberts
the floor is lava
Luis Stewart
He's incredibly easy, he just has way too much fucking HP.
Where do I get the style announcers? Is it in the same pack as the music?
Robert Adams
Yeah I had an even easier with him on DMD because his moveset is so basic and falls apart against Trickster/Royalguard. He just takes forever to fucking kill
Carter James
What is the point of giving players a 1.2x "No Continues Used" modifier if you already have a 2.0x "No Damage Taken" modifier in your score calculation? Isn't that overkill?
Wouldn't that mean that someone who only got like C rankings in combat can still get an S-rank by passively no-damaging an entire level and getting a giant score boost from the score modifiers?
Austin Morales
What? You can destroy his heads? Are you talking about Cerberus from DMC3? I know you can destroy DMC3 Cerberus's heads, but I am not aware of breaking King Cerberus's heads.
Robert Garcia
It's to counter the 0.8x auto-assist one.
Lucas Martinez
You can KO them, if you KO them all you stun the boss.
Joshua Gutierrez
For that bit, it's about selecting the right summons in the right order against the boss. I use birdo to kill the flying boss in the middle middle, do the goliath on the right with panther, then go fuck up the knight guy on the left with all three. That section on SOS was where the game forced me to learn how to pump them full of DT and watch them rape things. Before that I just mashed lol
Xavier Nelson
If you look at Vergil and Neros hairlines and compare it to Dantes hairline i think Dantes hairline is receding.
Jackson Brooks
>first playthrough >after a couple retries against Vergil with Dante, finally move on to Nero's part >accidentally revert to DMC4 control scheme when it tells me to DT and Buster >the game is actually programmed to use it Huh. That was neat.
I agree. I love playing Dante but as of 5 I officially prefer Nero. Devil Breakers are so insanely fun to play as. I just got to mission 10 on SoS and im bummed that the majority of Nero's missions are finished. Not so bad playing as Dante but V just fucking destroys my excitement to play. Im glad people like V, and I think he belongs, but fuck. I dont have any issue playing as Dante but I'm just having so much fun mastering Nero. Cant wait for Bloody Palace
I was disappointed King Cerberus didn't have the dmc3 theme or at least a remix.
Luke Hernandez
this has been my PS theme for the longest fucking time and it's so goddamn chill
Ayden Reed
I just played the Nidhogg level on DMD and wow that shit gets tense all over again
Don't get me wrong, V is a very shallow character and gets boring quick, but I think one of the bigger problems is that nothing poses a major challenge until you go above SoS
Alexander Roberts
Go for DMC4 dude. It's a solid title
You'll have to push through some of the more repetitive parts because the levels are goddamn long but shit, once you unlock all the moves you have a fucking BLAST combo-ing the shit out of everything at Legendary Dark Knight difficulty
Gilgamesh >> Balrog too. You can pretty much two-shot bosses with it if you glitch DT
>After DMC5 >It's Father's Day >Nero gives a small toast and eats a strawberry sundae in front of a photo of Dante >Nico: "Yo, what about Vergil?" >Nero: "What about who now?"
Hudson Sanchez
Had it as my PS theme since pre-orders were available.
>By DMC6, Nero has completely styled himself after Dante to the point where he's almost a clone with literally no blue on him anywhere
Adrian Thomas
Is there any way to turn off the style announcer?
Adam Cook
So does Nero have Buster animations for Cavalier and Cerberus?
Nathaniel Cooper
Wait until Bloody Palace to find out.
Juan Collins
He must.
Anthony Cruz
Dismal.
Caleb Hall
Am I the only one who doesn't like the Bloody Palace (or Angel Slayer in Bayonetta or whatever its equivalent in other games like Dark Realm in Onimusha Dawn of Dreams)?
It's just too much of a survivalist gauntlet that is too stressful for me to enjoy. The biggest update I'm hoping for is the ability to play any mission with any character. Let me fight Malphas as Dante or Elder Geryon Knight as Nero.
Nathan Evans
do triangle until you're burning swordmaster circle to stagger SM back+circle to do the most satisfying uppercut ever while styling
Jose Edwards
I think it's okay. It feels way too long though. It's too much of a time investment.
Dominic Ross
There really needs to be a fucking mod that prevents the game from loading in cutscenes, because it's fucking obnoxious to have to mash the start button just to skip a goddamn cutscene in this game.
I honestly don't know why Itsuno didn't just implement an option to go through the game without any cutscenes. I've played through the game. I love the story. I love the cutscenes. But now I'm just rank running on DMD, and I don't need to waste extra time mashing through cutscenes to skip them or waiting on the loading screens that load in cutscenes.
Charles Powell
I don't care what anyone says, nero is the most fun to play. >best gun >best sword >max act >devil bringer/buster >all the robot arms are great (except time stop)
Jayden Diaz
Did Blue Rose's rate of fire become even slower?
Jordan Hall
>(except time stop) >not buying deluxe and getting the 3 worst arms in the game Being low on arms and finding nothing but megabusters and sweet surrenders will make you wish for a ragtime.
Hudson Evans
Once I figured out how the megabuster works I don't hate it much it's just an unga button like the lightning hand one. You just wait till it charges on its own, shoot once, and then continue your routine. >middle of combo >press unga button for lodes of dmg and style up >continue combo
Kevin Lewis
>hell and hell V missions >summons die in one hit >have to royal fork everything or risk dying MAKE IT STOP
what's the difference between the mechanical devil buster and neros restored arm buster
Jeremiah Reed
Exactly the same but the breakage grabs do more damage
Xavier Morris
Mech does more damage, charging and breaking the mech does a shit load more damage.
Luke Gonzalez
More damage. Can buster while holding enemies.
Aaron Edwards
mech does a fuckload more damage if charged. highly recommended against bosses.
Samuel Ramirez
Complete newb to the series here, what's the timing for filling the exceed gauge? As soon as the hit connects? A bit later or earlier? I seem to be able to pull it off consistently when doing the roulette or whatever the move is called that goes from ground the air, but other than that it's a gamble
Henry Wood
nice maybe I'll use it some more now
David Reyes
It's a little bit later.
Wyatt Gomez
It changes for each move, but don't think it's ever before a hit connects. Usually just after.
Nathan Richardson
is a meme people who played only in human mode are bitching about it and the ones who haven't played the game at all are just parroting.
Carson Johnson
Thanks brahs, I think I might have been mashing the trigger to early then. Gonna go practice some more
you can max-act the air taunt too, it's great for setting up high roller or streak
Lucas Martin
You can instantly tell who is bad at the game when they believe Nero>Dante. Nero is extremely easy to play, all it means is that the person is too much of a brainlet to handle multiple weapon styles and weapon switching.
>rocket jump >sheev spin 360 noscope dual machineguns >dual grenade launchers death blossom >air support calling ac-130 >trickshot 180 degrees bullet >upgraded air support calling kirov airships >suicide vest
Aiden Bell
You don't have to be this sensitive about people liking Nero, everyone loves Dante gramps
Jackson Perry
>too much of a brainlet to handle multiple weapon styles and weapon switching. Well at least I admit it
Nicholas Torres
his taunt is taking notes
Isaiah Smith
Use it at the end of combos an things like streak to keep from hitting the enemy away. I wouldn't try to use it on every single hit, just the last one.
Landon Peterson
Please Itsuno, give us Agni & Rudra and Nevan DLCs.
Lucas Carter
Start your way small. Equip only DSD and one other devil arm you're comfortable with. Get used to just trickster and swordmaster at first, sticking to trickster for the most part, opening up an assault with DSD and then switching to all out offense by switching both weapon and style to SM. Work on that for a while until you get comfortable enough to gradually add more to your movepool.
Angel Gutierrez
>that first part that ends up in Eva stopping them instead of Nero
It wouldn't have made any sense, but damn, that looked cool.
Benjamin Robinson
There's gotta be. How else are people uploading in-game Subhuman without "BADASS" being blasted into your ears?
Aaron Moore
>sweet surrenders >get sweet surrender on the first boss >I wonder what attack is this >stinger boss and try it out >he just stands there, does a pose, gets hit, and loses the arm t-thanks nico
Camden Kelly
Someone finally put those gold orbs to good use
Joshua Perez
>Devil May Cry 6 >He Took Notes
David Hughes
dante is absolutely stronger than nero in gameplay, but buster and robo arms are better than most of dantes weapons.
Holy shit, M15 is infinitely more fun if you take the path doesn't have the LOUD as fuck, jutting spikes. Jesus, that mission is great without having to deal with all of that shit.
Both Dante nad Nero are great but I prefer Nero's utility over variety. Still play with both about equally. They play so different that arguing about which is better is kinds retarded. I think its amazing that DMC4/5 managed to introduce a character that didnt play like dante and it doesnt make everyone furious. They did something right
Alexander Kelly
It's not exactly kick 13, but it's pretty close. It's an uncancellable flurry of kicks.
Isaac Clark
I don't think it's called Kick 13, but it's Forward + SM in Kick Mode. The one that looks like Ken's Ultra from Street Fighter 4.
Noah Stewart
I'm gonna do it A playtrough with nothing but royal guard I'm gonna learn to use it or die trying dammit
Evan Wright
What the fuck is Red Queen made out of that allows it to take the punishment it does and not break? It looks pretty tough, yeah, but Nero regularly uses it against demons.
Alexander Cooper
dks
Brandon Ross
Agnus >>> Nico
Aaron Cruz
Some demon metal like gilgamesh probably
Noah Wilson
IGNITE THE FLAAAAAAAAME
Wyatt Jones
This. Agnus and Neil made weapons meant to last a lifetime. Nico is just making frail crap to get Nero to buy new hands over and over again.
Henry Moore
NOW why the fuck was balrog not a boss, he's the best hypeman in the game
Isaiah Stewart
>making frail crap to get Nero to buy new hands over and over again. Goldstein
Brayden Mitchell
Aside from a gold orb, is there really any reason to go through that part of the level? It's not like there are blue orbs or purple orbs or secret missions in that section.
Jason Garcia
It's canon, too. One of the files has her describing the devil brakers and how they can only be used for a limited time before they break and ends it with something like "I-I'm making them as tough as I can, really! HONEST!"
Jose Barnes
What the fuck does she even do with all the red orbs Nero gives her anyway? It's not like she can buy a car or a house with red orbs.
Nicholas James
>shadow is about to get hit >dodge left or right >shadow is moved immediately to your position >griffon is about to get hit >dodge back >griffon is moved immediately to your position unga
Bentley Cruz
Red Orbs seem to be a potent source of power, but it's difficult for most people to really harvest them seeing as how you need to kill demons for them. Stronger demons naturally have way more blood to crystallize, but do you really expect anyone who isn't Nero or Dante tier to kill those?
Luis Young
Why did the V gang feel the need to throw themselves at Dante exactly?
Thomas Price
He was cut sadly, they apparently used what assets they had for him for some of Mission 17 Urizen's attacks.
Aiden Murphy
I'm betting she uses them to recreate what she needs for Nero's arms. It'd be next to impossible for her to remake arms that she makes out of the demon materials she get's like Geryon or Artemis.
Lucas Gutierrez
I didn't really get it, either. But the one thing that was pretty much clear is that they hated him, so that's part of the reason. Dante seemed to have figured out what their "plan" was, though, but didn't say it out loud.
>You can kill yourself later, I'll help! >He was being sincere Little chicken was too based for this world. RIP ;_;
Gabriel Anderson
Suicide by Dante basically.
Connor Wilson
BUT WHY THEY GOTTA DIE
Alexander Hall
PROTIP: Using red orb revive doesn't reduce your score unless you do it 3 times
Is it true that Buster Arm grabs have invincibility frames throughout the entire duration as opposed to the Devil Bringer arm grabs?
I hate being stuck in a long animation when grabbing an enemy and getting hit out of it.
Blake Gutierrez
he's using the super costume with auto max-act and infinite DT
Kevin Harris
That doesn't completely explain it, though. If they antagonized Vergil then they should be trying to stay around and torment him instead of willfully baiting Dante into killing them so Vergil can be happy. I hope that manga about V goes into more detail about their nature and their relationship with V and Vergil.
Jack Anderson
>you and I like to exist >V erases himself to join up with Urizen >
Henry Flores
Pretty sure that only applies to the breakage
Evan Bell
They didn't antagonize Vergil, the whole reason they fought Dante was to get killed and free him from his nightmares. That's what they were: nightmares. They like him, so they died to help him.
Dylan Flores
Playing with Super Nero on SOS is legit the most comfy way of playing the game. I've already beaten DMD, so now whenever I get home from work, I just play 3-4 missions with Super Nero on SOS and just have fun before working out, eating dinner and going to bed. It's just relaxing playing with Nero feeling so OP and all those AESTHETIC blue colors on screen.
I just wish it was possible to play more than 10 missions as Nero. I can't wait for a patch or a mod that allows players to choose whatever character they want for any level. I can't wait to fight King Cerberus as Nero.
>Cavalier He does. Same punching animation as sitting Urizen and Gilgamesh weak spot
Hudson Price
Why does Vergil suddenly see it as so important to help close off the demon portal when he willing set demons upon the world in DMC3?
Brandon Lee
Because they have no purpose anymore.
William Hernandez
He's actually spent some time with them now between DMC3 and DMC5 and he realizes he wouldn't want their kind in his neighborhood.
Joseph Nelson
Because in the end, the will of Sparda takes over.
Luke Morgan
He wanted to go mano e mano with his son, and having a circle of demons close in on them is not exactly the definition of one on one
Nathan Morgan
And then you see your style ranking go from D to SSS. It's so fucking good.
See, this is why I don't understand the people who say DMC has no incentive for players to be stylish (see pic related). Can these people not understand the inherent satisfaction from doing stuff like you mentioned?
How the fuck do you logically respond to these people in pic related?
I dont care about this shitty dmc5 """story""" >FUCK YOU xddd
Nathan Sullivan
Maybe he is affraid of Nero's power level and just wants Dante's dick in hell.
Brandon Robinson
>I can't wait for a patch or a mod that allows players to choose whatever character they want for any level. Good news, already a thing. People have used it to see V's Vergil kill, where he embraces himself then drives the cane through both of them at once.
David Jenkins
>give me your dick >no way, you got yours
Tyler Bell
What if super duper judgement cut end was too powerful to be used in the human world and Vergil was just saving it.
Jace Gonzalez
I didnt mean literally. He wants to fight Dante without Nero being around.
Austin Nguyen
>use the full power Buster Arm on the big ugly chicken boss when she's stunned >Nero absolutely annihilates her into the dirt for like half her health bar
Turn on interlaced and variable fps Stuff is tied to frame rate when it's capped at 60
Jaxon Taylor
Too late, the fujo beacon is up STEAL A COCK FOR A SECOND CHANCE
Ian Stewart
You just don't bother with them, they don't like this type of game and anything you'd try to say would fall on deaf ears.
Caleb Gutierrez
>struggling with weapon/style switching with Dante >get Cavaliere >staggering groups of enemies, vaulting them and switching to gunslinger to pull off shotgun juggling combos >mfw I pull off my first SSS Yeah I don't get it either.
>not STEAL A HOLE FOR A SECOND CHANCE Wake up son.
Adam Williams
Yeah, but these are typically the type of idiots who go around spreading misconceptions about the series and other games like it. Engaging them is necessary to at least put down their bullshit, even if you can't convince them to like the games. At the very least, you're showing OTHER people who are undecided on DMC why that dude is full of shit.
Adrian Murphy
Lads, I've come to realization that I'm too shit for DMD as I can't even reach Artemis, so I think it's time I switched around some input buttons because I always tend to use the default options. What should I switch? The biggest challenge is going to be keeping my fingers on the triggers at all times, because I usually move my index fingers between bumpers and triggers
>Never played DMC before >Get D-B ranks in the first missions with Nero >Start figuring out the controls >Switch to V >Get A and S ranks but don't feel any accomplishment because LMAO game literally plays itself >Finally get to play as Dante >ROYAL GUARD,GUNSLINGER,ROYAL GUARD, SWORD TRICKSTER >land perfect parries to Shotgun juggles >Get my first SS rank >Feel like a badass
Someone post the holy shit you're the best bossfight ever picture
Carter Williams
Best you can do for this genre is provide video evidence and say that the point of the game is to kill stuff while looking as cool as possible. Doesn't need much of an explanation. As for why they should do it, there's a lot of answers to that question but none they'll accept.
Jeremiah Barnes
Imagine a Resident Evil game where main character got so inspired by superhuman devil hunters he continuously pushes the limit of human abilities far beyond what even Leon and Chris has accomplished and eventually turns into something akin to Lady, a walking arsenal who mows down entire infected towns on his own.
Nolan Stewart
I always thought it'd be cool if there were a DMC spin-off starring Lady where it plays like a more stylish RE4, dealing with an Umbrella-style corporation trying to monetize demons somehow.
Jose Brown
How do you go about becoming a crazy combo video guy outside of practicing a lot? Where do you even begin?
With things such as fighting games it's easy to find resources that encourage you to steadily progress, it's laid out very clearly. Getting combo video good is just so overwhelming.
Same with fighting games. Practice setups and combos against opponents in training mode/The Void, and find ways to apply those combos in actual missions.
Juan Mitchell
I'm terrible at weapon switching and doing multi-weapon combos. When I stick to a single weapon I'm pretty good at style switching, but add weapon swapping into the mix and everything falls the fuck apart.
Nolan Roberts
You could just stick to Nero.
Samuel Bell
The micro-management is too daunting. Hold down gun while holding down lock-on while exceeding all your hits while also ghost punching important hits.
Carter Harris
It's like this. Much like any game of this sort or fighting games in general the very first step would be to familiarize yourself with the characters. So when you pick up a brand new character. You're probably not going to try and learn combos when you don't even know what the basic moves are called, right? It's the same thing, you familiarize yourself with what every weapon has and how it's useful.
After that you play around and work on things you're weak at like style and weapon switching and rebind your keys until you find a configuration that fits. After you've done that too, it's just a simple matter of playing and playing until the execution barrier is gone and THEN after that's dealt with do you think about trying to do flashy combos.
Bentley Morgan
Nero's aerial mobility is so crazy i'm barely touching the ground on my second run. That third jump is fucking broken as an evasion option, bosses can't deal with it too.
Brandon Wood
Yeah, add Punchline and Gerbera into the mix and the only reason you'd touch the ground would be to do other moves.
Just focus on TWO weapons and TWO guns for Dante at a time. Don't overwhelm yourself with all of Dante's weapons at the same time.
You can still easily get SSS combos with only two weapons and two guns. Take your time and slowly build your way to Dante's full arsenal.
Logan Reed
Is there a way to actually deal damage with Dante's basic firearms or double Kalina and Faust are the only options?
Cameron Bailey
Personally, I've just been memorizing what's easy to Ghost punch and not trying to go crazy trying to get EVERYTHING down. Like how you can ghost punch the entire time you're riding Punchline.
>spieltimes.com/news/hideaki-itsuno-was-ready-to-leave-capcom-after-dmc-devil-may-cry/ >Itsuno almost left Capcom after Donte may cry >“He was ready to leave Capcom”, Reuben said. “He was not happy. And I think he put in his resignation and then they said wait-wait, you’re a valuable guy (and) we don’t want you to leave. What can make you stay?” B-B-BUT ITSUNO LIKED DmC!!!!!
Can't help you bud, I'm on the same boat as you. Fucking ghost punch is fucking me up.
Dominic Edwards
Including Dante? I found myself not using guns much outside of lmao2ann and mostly for Gunslinger memes I wish Ghost punching was my only issue
Adrian Reyes
Yes including Dante. Literally everybody should have their fire on the trigger, including V.
Juan Hughes
Actually, wait, on a trigger? Then what should I move Nero's Max.Act to? L1?
Jaxon Russell
You can leave Nero's exceed on like L2. I do. I also have his gun on L1. And his punch remains on R2. The only universal advice is that the very first thing you should do is map one of your firearms to a trigger to free up face buttons.
Dylan Green
Not the responded to user bu It actually fucked me up too much when I moved the fire to the trigger on Dante. I kept DTing when I wanted to gun and vice versa so I changed it back. He was the only one I had that issue with weirdly enough.
Jonathan Jones
>ioritree doing model swaps for DMC now Oh god
Anthony Clark
I like it on L1 because there's no ambiguity on the timing like there is on a trigger. Blue Rose is better for the trigger.
Christopher Young
>I found myself not using guns much outside of lmao2ann and mostly for Gunslinger memes you speak like a fucking retard, just practice in the void
Charles Kelly
Even on DMD he's the easiest character to S rank with imo, the real game doesn't start until DMD even moreso than past DMC games, SOS is basically normal mode in 4 level difficulty. At least DMD is still as hard as always.
Charles Cox
So what are the connections to William Blake's mythology? How is Urizen as a demon of pure power relate to his namesake Urizen, Blake's embodiment of conventional reason and law?
In the words of Reuben, Itsuno demanded a Devil May Cry game. Itsuno had a wishlist and Devil May Cry was on the top of his wishlist. He said he’ll stay if Capcom let him do a Devil May Cry game the way he wanted to do it. What form of power is this?
