Where were you when Steam decided to silence the customers and just hide negative reviews they don't like because they want to please the publisher instead?
The real reviews for GTA 5 is 56% (MIXED). But now, when you see it, it's 70% (MOSTLY POSITIVE).
Fuck, I loved Steam and Valve, I hate chinks cunts, so now I'm homeless for platform. They used to be so customer-oriented. Now they're just a bunch of cunts jews.
review bombing is gay as fuck but yeah, maybe we're just stuck with it at this point
Michael Bell
>You can literally choose to see the shitpost reviews if you want, you goddamn cuck. Stop crying. It's OPT IN and it's hidden. The store page score is not accurate anymore.
Cameron Roberts
I was a pirate before Steam. I guess I'm back on TPB.
Fuck I feel like my gf cheated on me. Cunts.
Liam Perry
>game company does something shitty >you shouldn't be allowed to warn people about their shitty practices in the place people are most likely to see it >criticism of the company should have to stay hidden
Yes, good goy. Defend the corporations who you owe nothing.
Wyatt Taylor
why the fuck would you like steam or valve after the constant shit they've been pulling?
Anthony Kelly
>pay for game >but you don't actually own it >and you aren't allowed to say whatever you want about it
Good. Review bombing autists can finally spend time doing something productive like moving out of their parent's place or finally hugging a female they didnt have to pay.
Nathaniel Wilson
i literally implied that the current system that allows review bombing is the best solution we have, but that doesn't mean that it's good
Jace Peterson
WARNING! FOOD ANALOGY!
>walk into restaurant >start telling everyone in the restaurant that the food is fucking shit stir fried in cancer and that itll make your babies gay >get escorted out >"those guys are silencing my review!"
I still don't get why review bombs are considered bad? >Developer changes game >It gets worse >people leave negative feedback Isn't that completely fair? In the case of GTAV, it was when they started banning single-player mods.
Adam Torres
I fail to see what the problem with review bombing is, to be honest.
Easton Adams
It got knocked down because Take Two removed mods in summer of 2017. Rockstar stepped in and said they were actually for mod support. The negative bombardment of reviews from that summer was never removed. Which they should have because the massive complaints of mods being removed was fixed
Use a better example. Steam users love their GTAV too because it apparently is top 5 in steam traffic everyday
Samuel Reed
I'm not a fucking chink you fucking cunt, I hate chinks but Steam is betraying me today. Fuck I was in a good mood because of Christchurch, and not I'm not anymore.
But you said "review bombing is gay as fuck" which is wrong. It is literally the most efficient method of warning potential customers that they may want to avoid buying games from a particular company due to said company's anti-comsumer practices. That is literally why Steam is trying to stop this, because they know it works.
But I would love to hear why you think "review bombing is gay as fuck"
Samuel Rivera
Why should people be forced to go back and update reviews because devs later fix something? If a game launches in a buggy state and I give it a bad review, should my review be removed in a year when they patch it?
William Allen
Then you're either willfully ignorant or stupid. There's no helping you if you're not willing to help yourself.
Lurk more. Hint: You're in the right thread.
Owen Scott
I don't think you know what "wrongthink" is. Usually bombing happens because devs made retarded and often unnecessary changes to a game or it's policies. That's more than mere "thoughts".
Colton Russell
I'm sorry that other people make your decisions for you.
Jace Perez
Not him, but review bombing gives users a power that also gets frequently abused. As an example, Dead By Daylights pissbaby community openly threatens the devs with mass review bombing to affect changes or keep things as they are, and the devs can't just deal with the people doing it because it's the entire community.
Brody Gomez
I was considering buying this. Should I not?
Jeremiah Brown
There's was nothing buggy or technically wrong with the game? When it launched it worked great and had mod support. Publisher came in, tried to take something that was rightful and made it more fun away. Therefore, negative reception was ok. The developer then stepped in fixed someone els's fuck up and told their publisher to fuck off.
Alexander Green
>pissbaby
I'm getting 2014 flashbacks
Jaxson Phillips
>add female to game >REEEEEEing intensifies
Kevin Jones
Consumers should be gagged slaves that should have no say on anything and just open their fucking wallet, jesus christ, is that so much to ask for?
Lincoln Baker
Take the GOGpill
Eli Davis
ill take that over spyware that is epic store
Joseph Bailey
Nobody has made any decisions for me, and I told you directly to make a decision yourself. Stop strawmanning/projecting. Stop posting. Lurk more.
Logan Hill
>The store page score is not accurate anymore Except it is since only off topic shitposts don't count. Only reviews on the merits of the game matter, positive or negative.
Nathaniel Barnes
>implying Yea Forums won't buy it for the waifu
Jace Ross
>The devs are forced to actually satisfy the customer The fucking horror.
Logan Evans
There is literally nothing wrong with review bombs.
Angel Ramirez
Your delusion is palpable.
Aiden Kelly
This. Fucking incels.
Austin Wood
Excect chinks reviewbombing games for not having a moonrune mode
Matthew Bennett
I mean, if you are complaining about something that has been fixed then it probably should be removed.
Ethan White
they're not reviews though, they're political protests designed to try to stop people from buying a game by making people think it's bad, even if the 'reviewers' in question have never played it
Noah Morgan
>all these bugmen crying that they can't spam their bug language reviews
WAAAH WHY IS GAME NOT CHINA? RACIST BURGERMAN
Asher Gomez
Maybe on Metacritic, on Steam you have to buy the game in order to review it. In theory, you could acquire a key for the game through a bundle or trading or some other method, but ultimately to review bomb on Steam you must own a copy of the game.
Carter Morris
When it comes to shit like balancing, the customer is most certainly not always right, especially given what a lot of peoples concept of what is actually balanced. We're talking about the people who have trouble breathing and playing vidya at the same time strong arming the devs to do what they want.
Thomas Perez
>GOG >fired their community manager for making a hashtag joke Oofa doofa
Carson Kelly
>dumb faggots mad they can't play 500 hours of a game and then give it a thumbs down because there's "not enough content"
Non-curated reviews shouldn't be allowed in general, in my opinion. You can't trust the general retard with that much power. This stuff has literally killed entire indie developers before because you get idiots voicing their dipshit opinions and causing the game to disappear into the abyss because it'll never show up in anyone's queue anymore.
How terrible that I can easily see a bunch of chink reviews and ignore the large spike in negatives and only read the ones pertaining to what is relevant to me and my interests. I don't care about people who are so stupid they let a number dictate their purchasing decisions. If the devs care, they can add chink localization but it'd be easier to ignore the insects in the first place since you can already filter by language. Sorry that your favorite game didn't get a 10/10 because not everybody liked it.
Owen Collins
seems more like this is targeted at Chinese review bombers rather than trying to mollify big publishers
Mason Brown
doesn't the system automatically filtering out these reviews for you, unless you opt out, support your viewpoint though? what are you mad about?
Aiden Lopez
>Non-curated reviews shouldn't be allowed in genera this desu Karma/gold upvote on Yea Forums when? It's just sooo much better.
Pretty sure GoG does the same. Visit the Spellforce 3 page in GoG.
Adrian Lewis
>pay for game surely you mean pay for a loicense, mate unless you can afford actually buying the IP
Thomas Thomas
>mostly positive based on 400k >mixed based on 160k in (((your languages))) Just admit you rigged it.
Robert Rogers
Nothing outside of the ordinary if you can opt out of the new system. I'm not home so I can't check yet. Only that this will reinforce bad habits like making ill-informed purchasing decisions, but you can't stop most people from doing that anyway. They've already stated that they consider reviews about DRM off-topic, which I think is a mistake.
Austin Fisher
>Being happy over people being murdered in a terrorist attack What a lovely man you are.
Camden Young
Who cares about steam reviews, it was mostly people trying to be funny to get upvotes like some shitty social media site. Just watch youtube videos and form your own opinions
Adam Kelly
oh shut the fuck up, anyone who actually knows Steam knows this is necessary and if you think 56% is more accurate than 70% for GTA V then you're fucking cancer, all the reviews were bitching about the online poriton of the game and had about 600+ hours on the game.
Elijah Clark
Too be fair they kept adding shit that made the online even worse
Chase Cook
I watched a friend of mine get milked by the fucking ingame shark credit cards over and over, GTA V online can go suck shit.
Grayson Parker
>playing GTA V for the fucking online you must be AT LEAST 18 years of age to browse this board.
Xavier Walker
That's on you friend for being a retard, nobody forces you to buy shark cards
Jose Taylor
I just looked at stellaris(61% recent, 77% overall) and artifact(20% recent, 49% overall) and it doesn't seem like the new review feature affected those games' scores. Maybe instead of mindlesly shitposting we should check more games too see any drastic shifts in review scores.
Eli Martinez
>playing nuRockstarshit for the singleplayer Right back at you, underaged little faggot.
If you actually read their posts it says they disable "off-topic" review bombing, aka spamming about DRM or chinese garbage.
Jeremiah Baker
So we're supposed to ignore about half the games content and only play the worse single player in gta yet? Fuck outta here, the game is just trash all around and only zoomers like it
Angel Williams
How is DRM off-topic?
Isaiah Rogers
I stopped giving a shit about reviews when they supported retards making joke reviews by adding a funny button instead of deleting and banning them. Literally who cares anymore
Wyatt Phillips
The fact that the god awful monitized multiplayer is even an option is bad enough.
Dominic King
What does it have to do with a person enjoying a game?
Juan Roberts
Isn't all the additional 3rd party shut like additional EULAs you have to agree to and DRM that is going to be installed already mentioned on the store page?
Ayden Nelson
>calling me under aged for enjoying the component the series has always been made for, rather than the tacked on component meant to steal your money
>Fuck outta here, the game is just trash all around and only zoomers like it Here's your (you)
Thomas Carter
Review bombing was actually productive though. It forced developers to respond and address the issue that made consumers review drop. Of course the devs will not like it and shame on Steam for giving in to them.
Lucas Morales
paradox are jews with DLC. Avoid
Eli Torres
>Review bombing was actually productive though. It forced developers to respond and address the issue that made consumers review drop. Really? Like when?
Caleb Gomez
Name 3 times when reviewbombing improved a game.
Asher Jones
t. zoomer
Mason Powell
>and then give it a thumbs down because there's "not enough content" GTA was review bombed in protest of the publisher trying to ban mods.
Samuel Wood
Looks like a nerve was struck. Fuck off with your shit taste little bitch.
Dylan Hernandez
yea looks like I triggered you into replying
Samuel Rivera
If they wanted to reverse the Steam review status, they kinda didn't have a choice don't you think? If the developers chose to ignore it, then the negative review stayed. Example: when GTA5 blocked modding, they were forced to revert it IIRC.
Nolan Turner
Worked well with Lawbreakers, got that Cliffy B faggot to quit the industry and we are all better for it
Ethan Ross
If a game isn't improved as a result of review bomb then it deserves to stay at negative review. Change my mind.
Jayden Nguyen
Oh yeah? Then explain randy and anthony not fucking off.
Luis Morgan
Go cry to your Rockshit overlords.
Ryder Roberts
Nah that game just sold like complete shit and nobody cared to play it, it actually had decent reviews for the most part
Christopher Ramirez
imagine being this assblasted
Nicholas Carter
Randy is too fucking stupid to call it quits and Anthony is such a submissive cuck he gets off on being dominated and stepped on by everyone
I don't care anymore, I will just pirate everything, let Steam and Epic burn, fuck devs and publishers, I will make my own game, and enjoy them. No dev or publisher will stop me.
Yeah? Do your parents still put you in diapers and a swallder even though your biology and upbringing has "patched" you past not being able to maintain your own hygiene?
Jeremiah Morgan
o is this a secret cunny thread?
Nathan Johnson
Nobody wanted to give fuckface any money because of his shit personality and how he treats customers and fans, that's why it didn't get popular. It died completely because the few thousand that gave it a chance thought it was shit and already dead
James Rodriguez
>still mad
Jack Perez
ooh
Sebastian Gomez
oh no, how will i live without see raging cuckboys mass downvotes
Sebastian Sullivan
Just read a few, but people don't want to read, just look at the top voted review and judge the game from that.
You can just change the settings to include the filtered reviews. They're not deleted, just hidden by default.
Lucas Kelly
So how are we defining a review bomb? >game introduces paid mods or something else shitty >large number of reviews are changed to negative >lol sorry, goy no review bombing
Ryan Myers
i used to have top reviews on several popular titles and updated them every major patch to tell everyone what changed, for better or worse. i was 100% honest and had tens of thousands of upboats.
my account was blocked from posting anything in the community and banned from reviews forever because a dev got upset i listed their game as a "glitch per minute shameless wallet drainer"
Fuck steam, it never cared about quality, only keeping they money flowing into their service.
I think adding paid mods wouldn't be "off-topic", but it's ultimately up to the team that is assigned with checking anomalies in the review system. Seeing as there have been some games removed and then reappear on the store, I don't have high hopes that their decisions will be exactly what consumers consider off-topic and what not. I think the currently trending topics for review-bombing are either reviews based on the developers (like people shitting on that Taiwanese game for making fun of China) or publisher decisions in regards to a sequel of a franchise in which previous entries get badly reviewed (Metro: Exodus being Epic exclusive while previous Metro games on Steam are being review-bombed to hell.
Hunter Miller
have they censored sjwification of rome total war?
Aaron Butler
So yeah. If theres no guidelines and it's up to steam/the developers discretion, its going to be exploited.
You've seem to got some cunny on this thread. Can we get some delicious brown to go with that?
Owen Russell
>Except it is since only off topic shitposts don't count. Are you retarded? Do you have brain damage? >Q: So if I post a review inside in the period of an off-topic review bomb, my review won't be included in the Review Score? >A: Unfortunately, this is correct.
Zachary Anderson
Review bombs are a double edged sword. You can have legitimate bombs from users who are upset over being fucked over or something, but you can also have actual Chinese review bombing games with garbage you do not care about at all.
Nolan Jackson
Yes, because the point is to catch players who don't look deeply before buying.
James Perry
>he needs reviews to see if the game is good Just pirate and see for yourself, faggot. >Fuck, I loved Steam and Valve Lol, cancer. Not a single company is your friend. Stop defending everything.
>off-topic agreed >review bombs no, 95% of the time they are justified, i can really think of a couple of times a game was review bombed for no good reason
also, some transparency on how your analytics work please, how do i know you are not just inflating scores from shitty games?
This, steam has such a weird fucking community, they're mostly retarded and incredibly entitled a lot of the time, the amount of dumb memes and just plain retarded reviews or discussions I honestly don't trust the steam community to go about anything with even a pinch of nuance or respect. Review bombing has became way too popular as a tactic to attack devs for any little reason now and it's becoming obnoxious, I'm sick of seeing games get shat on for trivial shit, the first time with rockstar was definitely justified but there's not been a good case for it since.
Logan Morris
i dont like this, devs can patch the game into a pile of shit
Levi Perez
"Just trust us bro :^)"
Jayden Howard
Blame the fucking Chinese and their endless review bombing. Frankly, anything to fuck them is good in my book. t.Taiwanese American.
Justin Hughes
Which cases of review bombing you think wasn't legitimate?
Nathaniel Allen
Not him. Anytime it’s the fucking Chinese. See devotion and the dev’s other games getting review bombed by buttblasted chinks upset their precious leader was insulted.
Ian Gray
censorship is good when it's japanese and american
Ayden Wood
we're talking about turning every game into some kind of bastardized democratic process, they have to please the majority and don't get to keep developing the game to their personal will. You guys go on about devs having to water down their product by censoring, but this is a weird kind of customer enforced censoring. Do as we say or we'll ruin you kind of bullshit, that's not how business is supposed to work actually.
funny how they insist on keeping politics out of game but will literally try to ruin a small dev with review bombing because they dont like it's politics or whatever
Xavier Wilson
Makes sense. More good reviews = more sales = more money for Valve. You're retarded if you ever trust the people taking your money not to lie to you
Jaxson Hughes
>You can't trust the general retard with that much power. the power to spread his opinion? Yeah dude it's so harmful that other people might read it. Dumb goy.
Joshua King
I don't think this is a compromise user. For example, then why isn't this feature turned off by default?
Kayden Rodriguez
Valve is doing this to compete with Epic, right?
Joseph Gutierrez
Doesn't mean we need to take it quietly.
Matthew Walker
They bomb games for not having a chinese language option, it's not like they need a good reason.
Isaiah Long
This is the perfect solution and anyone that disagrees is being a fucking retard. Simple as that.
>t-they are hiding the b-bad reviews Except they are not. They are all visible and only the score is unaffected. For years and years every sane gamer has insisted that review scores are meaningless and what's important is the written review so why does it suddenly matter?
>i-it will trick people into b-buying bad games First of all this idea is bullshit because the vast majority of review bombs are based on shit outside the game (muh womans in Total War, muh Winnie Pooh in Detention, muh sale prices on Tomb Raider etc). Even then, for this to be true you have to assume people are stupid enough to buy based only in the review score and that no written review ever will change their mind about something.
A majority of those negative reviews are from either the chinese or from everyone was upset over Take Two C&Ding mods
Jason Bennett
Why were people review bombing gtav?
Robert Mitchell
because 8/10 times the customer just wants to see how good a game is, i 100% defend review bombing, but its far from an ideal solution because it affects other customers too
i saw someone on the pcgamer article comment post a fantastic solution, add a new "publisher reputation" score, that way people can display their dissatisfaction with the publisher and customer who want to buy the game regardless will get a more accurate assessment of its quality
my problem is, valve is minimizing the effects of review bombing, because they do cause collateral damage, but they need to be replaced with a valid alternative, because this sort of customer dissatisfaction has a place
Unless you can afford gorillon dollars to buy DLCs, just pirate everyting, fuck paradox niggers
Luke Turner
true, and for instance, the review bombing of total war rome 2 was just pathetic
however in other instances such as during the paid mods fiasco, it was 100% justified, when the devs releases a patch that fucks up the game, totally justified too
Isaiah Smith
why should it be? the average buyer wants to know what legitimate players think, not far-right politicizers
Gabriel Barnes
>How terrible that I can easily see a bunch of chink reviews and ignore the large spike in negatives and only read the ones pertaining to what is relevant to me and my interests. >From the same board that will post the image of a game's steam storefront along with it's overall review score and go OH NO NO NO
Gavin Campbell
Where can I opt out?
David Watson
reviews are supposed to be reviews. you faggots just abuse them and treat them like super shitposts.
Lincoln Parker
most reviews are just shitposts now to cry about so random sjw shit or not haveing sjw shit make up your own mind about a game for once fuck
Noah Peterson
Because the point is to placate devs who want increased sales while appearing reasonable in these changes. Shills will defend it because they vicariously feel through a developers success.
Ryder Watson
oh, also every time half of the population of china complains about no chinese support on a game and review bomb it, thats also no good
Christopher Taylor
>muh womans in Total War If a large number of the audience doesn't want women soldiers in historic settings, then the dev should respect this.
Benjamin Turner
The problem is every time people bomb games there's also a large amount of equally useless positive reviews to "correct" the score. This system filters both.
Lucas Smith
Go to your store preferences (click your name at the top right in Steam) and scroll a bit down.
Zachary Cruz
Ironically, this actually pertains to the game and would qualify as a "legit" review bombing under the fine print.
Judge a game on the game not the business practices of the company.
John Barnes
Thanks frend
Ryan Cox
Too bad the whole situation was a fake outrage based on fake pictures and boosted by the daily stormer then.
Lucas Brooks
Ok, unpopular opinion I can understand why people would be pissed off at paid mods or fangames, but Touhou shows us how amazing could've been if it wasn't prone to a abuses
hold on wouldn't this help prevent chinese review bombing, you dumb nigger?
Oliver Gonzalez
But you will, just like you always do. Don't pretend bitching about it on the internet for attention counts as not taking it quietly
David Sanchez
It's fucking GTA, literally 3rd world kids in slums play this shit. Getting so worked up over this... Who cares man, are you stupid?
Nathan Hernandez
So, what you're saying is that there's no point to this thread and OP is either dumb or purposefully leaving out info in order to start shit?
Austin Rodriguez
it's not a large number it's a vocal minority.
you faggots pretend user reviews are an honest representation of the average opinion when they're really nothing but an autistic tug of war between the absolute worst of the audience.
Isaac Allen
Why the fuck would anybody care about GTAV singleplayer? That shit was so lame that I still haven't touched it since finishing the story missions
You guys are making a big deal about random comments posted by literally who cucks on a virtual shop.
Noah Carter
Should I remember you when Steam tried to push paid mods and Gaben in person had to address and back down?
Ayden Carter
I probably wouldn't notice those news without 4channel and this shit is actually enabled by default and most importantly they did not make any announcement warning or anything like that which means a huge portion of people won't notice anything. So, fuck off, nigger.
Jayden King
Hahaha Looks like we won. goyim no longer have the right to express their disappointment on any product.
Easton Cooper
The point is that most don't even know it exists, so holding devs accountable with review bombing is nullified. All this does is make consumer dissent irrelevant and serves to fatten a devs bottom line. Only corporate bootlickers like this.
Dominic Martin
If anybody can write a review, why shouldn't they represent the average opinion? Those who don't share what they think is irrelevant since nobody can check that.
Samuel Allen
Whenever money is involved you either have to become a jew or get replaced by a jew. It's only a matter of time until either of these happens. Mind you Steam has been jewish all along.
Jayden King
oh yeah bro, the devs shouldve totally roll back like 3 patches because some dumb fucks decided to get pissy 3 GODDAMN MONTHS after the fact
that bitch fit is literally one of the 2 or 3 review bombs that are completely indefensible, not only was the topic of the outrage idiotic and the outragers lied about some of the details, but also after the dev added the hicks, they had also released other patches, there was simply no way to revert the change without possibly breaking the game, you mongoloids didnt play the game during those 3 months the patch had been active, and if some dumb e-celeb hadnt told you about it, you wouldnt even care
>If anybody can write a review, why shouldn't they represent the average opinion? Because it doesn't. The only sort of person who leaves a user review is a sad sack with an agenda or an axe to grind.
Logan Johnson
>Because not every normal people feels the need to write a review. Which goes back to: >Those who don't share what they think is irrelevant since nobody can check that.
John Sullivan
i dont think people have a problem with fan games, people have commended valve for blessing black mesa for instance, but minimal or quality of life changes, that just crosses the line
Jacob Butler
Get EU III if you really want to play that type of game
EU IV is crap
Angel Hall
See:
Eli Robinson
it gets worse. the same autist(s) literally review-bombed EVERY MEGATEN GAME on metacritic, not just nocturne. this was at least a year ago and it's still not fixed.
Hunter Carter
The fact that you can't get a real opinion average doesn't mean that the average that you are able to get is valuable.
Wyatt Cook
The problem is that review bombing got out of control. The chinese that review bombed Devotion, for example. Or the review bombing of Metro (a completely unrelated game to what people were actually mad about).
The system they've recommended might actually work out, since they're not removing them, they're just hiding them from the overall score. Your complaints can still be heard, but if they're not directly addressing gameplay issues or the overall product, they won't damage the score.
Probably the dumbest thing I've read in a while. Let me ennumerate why you are not a majority:
- Even counting all the reviews specifically crying about women, they are a tiny portion of reviews. - If "a large number of the audience" didn't like the change, the game wouldn't be selling anymore - but it is. - You can easily find just as many people asking CA about when they'll put female generals in the game.
Eli Williams
There wasn't really as much abuse as there was immediate within the skyrim community and people pretending it was never about money even thought for most people it is, especially ever since patreon has become a thing.
Or just look Dota 2 custom game passes. Reddit shat their pants over it but nobody cares that chinese creators on there are straight up selling gameplay advantages and cosmetics on ebay for their games. 12v12 also gives you free shit for paying them money on patreon.
Dominic Bell
This is retarded. Games get spikes in reviews when they get huge sales, what's stopping this retarded filter from filtering those people's reviews?
Zachary Cruz
I don't know the details, nor was I part of the outrage. CA is a joke of a company, so usually they deserve the backlash.
Ethan Lee
it's not the power of an opinion. it's the power to affect the algorithm, and the power to turn the blue letters red.
Jeremiah Barnes
You are the one being retarded, user. If you had read the announcement you'd have seen they already analyzed a long-ass history of reviews to identify review bombs. Normal usage doesn't create that volume of reviews.
Ian Morris
>g-g-give me examples >t-t-they don't count becasue they prove me wrong Every fucking time.
Xavier Martin
>Internet isnt fucking reality yes it is
Chase Jones
Are you fucking dumb? Go look at the review chart of any game that has gotten review bombed. It's a fucking obvious spike that never happens otherwise.
Literally too fucking dumb to understand basic concepts and then crying that the ideas is bad because of it. Get out of here, dunce.
Blake Cook
>if I misrepresent it hard enough other retards will believe me kek, never fails to make me laugh
Carter Gonzalez
It's the only average opinion you can factually get, so it's the only concrete collection to work with.
Carson King
>THESE PEOPLE EXIST PLEASE BELIEVE ME! YOU ARE THE MINORITY NOT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
Tyler Bennett
If all you have is garbage data which you know is untrustworthy, you don't use it to make decisions simply for lack of anything else. That's asinine.
They don't care about that user, they just want to shill their favorite company to vicariously feel happiness through their success all while pushing lefty politics and insisting the right wing is a minority that should be silenced. Even when everything points to us being the majority. They don't care about principles, or consumer rights. Their #1 goal is win at any cost.
Ethan Peterson
>so usually they deserve the backlash
perhaps the company itself but not the game
Xavier Johnson
jesus christ dude, you can find the blog post of the patch in which they added women and people were praising CA
Tyler Martinez
The only way they will ever get truly punished is through their bottom line. That means targeting the game.
John Stewart
Apparently they were outnumbered in the reviews. Sorry that you are the minority opinion on this friend. I know that it feels sucky but you will have to deal with that fact.
Cooper Reyes
The most popular total war game is warhammer 2. People who play total war don't give a shit about "historical accuracy", they just want to smash toy soldiers together. You are the minority.
Justin Davis
What happened to Yea Forums? 2 years ago everyone would be attacking this. Now people are defending this and are insisting leftypolitics should be forced in every game. It is hard to believe there are no discord trannies.
Nicholas Gray
Do you have any actual figures to support your idea that most people praise it and the people that don't think 50% female generals is good in a somewhat historical game are the vocal minority?
Jaxson Torres
>My google broke!
I know you are a stupid man with not much going on in your life so this is one of the few things you think you can do right. I know you'll probably insist that I link a whole lot of stuff to "disprove" you, because if I don't then you "win", but then when I do you are going to quietly slink away to go shitpost elsewhere with another dumb opinion you don't really believe for any other reason other than (You)s. So I'm not going to do that, I just looked up one thing to post here and if you want to keep pretending to be retarded, be my guest.
>blog comments = entire community >negative reviews = vocal minority
Robert Jackson
Oof, I was going to buy Sekiro on Steam, but I think now I'll just pirate it instead. Kind of makes me regret buying DMC 5 on Steam.
Noah Ross
People care when it is in a historical setting. Warhammer is supposed to be unrealistic by nature. That is a really disingenuous argument user. The reviews prove you are the minority. Of course, if the positive reviews in backlash to the negative reviews were higher in number, you would be insisting you were the majority. You just throw out data you don't like when you lose. > When I win the data is real, when I lose the data is fake You are the minority. Accept it and move on.
Carter Hill
I know your brain has rotted from Yea Forums but most people who play games don't care about insane internet politics one way or the other.
Luis Moore
You cannot declare it untrustworthy because it's not collecting the opinions of people who don't bother sharing their opinion. That's asinine and you are being arbitrary.
Asher Myers
>at least 6 people were asking for this!
Carter Smith
Yea Forums is so hypocritical. You guys will still buy from Steam. You won't stop.
Lincoln Jones
Because the left is the majority, only their views should be implemented, and you should never question that. If data shows otherwise then it is fake of course!
Brody Diaz
So no proof? You just like the feeling that most agree with you. How was the review bomb effective if nobody cared?
Logan Young
This
Jason Reyes
on one hand >rampant uncontrolled censorship and the ability for devs to now buy good reviews on the other hand >buttblasted chinks can no longer buzz all over the review sections i'm not sure whether to support it or not
Eli Howard
Yea Forums is a small fraction of steam buyers anyways
Wyatt Perez
Which hypocrisy are you talking about? Attacking a change of policy doesn't need to result in a boycott.
Cooper Ramirez
the fact people didnt review bomb the game for 3 months
statistically speaking, you are still a minority because 68% of the reviews were possitive, and keep in mind among the negatives are the people who rightfully left a bad review because the game was a piece of shit upon release
you were implying those people didnt exist, but they do
Oliver Baker
Because their argument isn't consistent with reality and they are arguing in bad faith.
Brody Collins
>People care when it is in a historical setting. Nah. If they gave a shit about historical accuracy that much they should be lying down and dying in battles that were historically lost by the army that they picked.
Nolan Bennett
The fact that the most popular total war game is ahistorical shows that the majority of the total war fanbase doesn't care about historical accuracy. Warhammer fantasy isn't even a very popular IP.
>Of course, if the positive reviews in backlash to the negative reviews were higher in number, you would be insisting you were the majority. You just throw out data you don't like when you lose. You have no way to prove that. User reviews are not meaningful because people who are unhappy are more likely to leave them. This is true of everything, from video games to restaurant reviews.
Aaron Walker
Are you sure about that user? Off topic will be defined by steam employers.
Christian Hill
Because bombing a review score not based on the quality of the game itself but whether you can fucking use a certain mod or not should not be tolerated. Reviews should be about the GAME not third party shit. Or whether or not you agree with a certain employees opinions.
Noah Rodriguez
Not an argument in anyway shape or form.
Camden Gonzalez
It shows that the warhammer fanbase is large. You have the historical fans. The total war fans. And the Warhammer fans. It appears the Warhammer group outnumbers everybody.
Cameron Powell
>You have no way to prove that. User reviews are not meaningful because people who are unhappy are more likely to leave them. This is true of everything, from video games to restaurant reviews. Why do so many games have positive reviews then if that is truly the case?
Elijah Moore
The "historical setting" dictates that they lost. Fighting into a victory is every bit as fictional and un historically accurate as women generals.
Evan Ortiz
>User reviews are not meaningful because people who are unhappy are more likely to leave them. Those are exactly the reviews that matter the most.
Second, they are meaningful because people check those ratings.
Carson Nguyen
It is though. When people say they want historical accuracy, they always pick and choose ahistorical things they like which they want to be preserved.
Nathaniel Perry
Fannyflustered chingchongs can be btfoed by simply reading the negative review How is this relevant? How? Would 50% female generals be consistent with reality? How are they arguing in bad faith? It seems like you're just using buzzwords
Christopher Harris
well i don't know about you guys but i would gladly throw away as many rights of mine as i need to spite the chinks let valve do what they like as long as it drives chang back to his hive
Cameron Young
95% of the reviews during review bombs contain no information to help you understand the issue as a customer though
Jayden James
>muh women in Total War
And yet for all this incel whining, everything Total War Warhammer is top selling right now. Even Total War Rome 2, the game supposedly ruined by SJWs, is 32nd top selling too.
Funny how that works.
Nicholas Cook
I've read several of those threads, none of them had a majority agreeing with OP. Most end up locked, which means it's a very divisive topic.
Jaxson Jones
It shows that the larger portion of the fanbase isn't autistic about historical accuracy, and the women whiners are in the minority.
Eli Morales
>i would gladly throw away as many rights of mine top cuck
Charles Thompson
Not really. Different sides could have won the war if things were done just a little differently. Women generals never would have happened. Why not have aliens come down and serve as generals for the viking starcruisers while we are at it. It is all ahistorical after all... You have to draw the line somewhere. Not every ahistorical thing should be put in the same group when some are way more plausible then others.
Ian Clark
Thats fine, but why shouldn't I be able to leave a negative review about how I didn't like changes the developer made after I purchased?
Sebastian Ramirez
Lol, this woman generals thing is basically the SJW version of the whites only mods for rimworld/stellaris/whatever.
Dominic Bell
Nope, it is how I exactly explained it.
Luis Sullivan
>You have to draw the line somewhere. Okay, and they drew the line where they drew it.
Michael Nelson
In addition, If it were 2-5% female generals that would have been much more understandable.
Dylan Foster
>Different sides could have won the war if things were done just a little differently. They could have, but they didn't. History is not a collection of "what might have been". That's mythology, legends, or even fables. History deals with cold hard facts. These facts, when it comes to history pertaining conflict, are ones most often dictated by the victor.
Christopher Collins
But you can?
Gabriel Jackson
Games set in the future featuring whites should be review bombed as we know whites won't exist post 2100
Bentley Roberts
And most disagree with where it should have been drawn.
Nathan Taylor
I abandoned PC years ago
Xavier Garcia
>Your social credit score has increased by 4 chingchongs. Hair grorious reada!
Hunter Evans
Not in any impactful way apparently
Angel Russell
You've already been proven wrong though.
Gabriel Ross
Except when a large group of people agree with me, the group of people have an actual impact on overall user reviews and then is considered review bombing
Alexander Campbell
>History deals with cold hard facts. These facts, when it comes to history pertaining conflict, are ones most often dictated by the victor. you don't see an issue here? maybe some of the "facts" being dictated aren't entirely true
Mason Price
oh well. maybe you should respect the developer's creative vision instead of trying to force your political agenda on them like a SJW
Carson Richardson
As someone arguing against female generals, I agree.
Thomas Hill
No, I proved people wrong multiple times, and they essentially went "nu-uh... I WIN THE ARGUMENT!" If you think that is proving something wrong then you are really dumb.
>chinks can just buy game, leave negative review, then refund without playing the game for anything that even vaguely criticizes their Dear Leader >can’t do that now Why is this a problem, again?
Jack Turner
>Why not have aliens come down and serve as generals for the viking starcruisers while we are at it. You're implying they aren't? You're an all seeing commander that can never be assassinated and able to learn formations and movements of enemy troops without having to receive scouts reporting back to you, all that you need is to have a unit be there to break up "the fog of war". You can have troops all the way in bumfuck nowhere that when mathed out would take days to report back to you in the safety of your command center but no, you see and know the action there as fast as you can click to that side of the map.
Caleb Harris
>own 15 year old CPU and 7 year old GPU >buy new game >doesn't run >give it negative review This is 40% of negative reviews as it stands.
James Roberts
If SJW's can succesfully force devs to cave to their politics, I will do the same as a counterbalance.
Samuel Morris
Only 2691 people agreed with you and only after being rallied into it by articles like this. That's barely ten percent of the total reviews for the game.
Let me say it again so that you never forget: You are not a majority. You are nothing.
>You're implying they aren't? You're an all seeing commander that can never be assassinated and able to learn formations and movements of enemy troops without having to receive scouts reporting back to you, all that you need is to have a unit be there to break up "the fog of war". You can have troops all the way in bumfuck nowhere that when mathed out would take days to report back to you in the safety of your command center but no, you see and know the action there as fast as you can click to that side of the map. The most convincing argument in this thread. You are right.
Asher Roberts
So read the review
Gavin White
>Fuck I feel like my gf cheated on me. And the award for "Most Pathetic Man Alive" goes to OP
Jayden Roberts
Ok, then how else do you tackle review bombing? Because any group of retards can just start a raid where they buy the game, barely play it, then just leave a negative review and refund it. The fact that this can be done completely destroys the point of having reviews
Charles Watson
Doesn't matter. There's no round two for that shit so whatever the winner says goes. You can't unkill a jap that got nuked in Hiroshima or Nagasaki no matter how hard you try, so there's no "well Japanese civillians could have beaten fatman and lilboy.
Brody Reed
>giving away rights to spite chinks is patriotic kek
Nathaniel Sanchez
so why are reviews even integrated into the client in the first place? why is this a good idea?
Ian Williams
This is essentially the leftist argument >We are allowed to do something, but you are not allowed to do the same thing. Give up and die already.
Caleb Gomez
>can’t do that now Proof?
Leo Evans
>Ok, then how else do you tackle review bombing? Which good game didn't sell because of it?
Aiden Campbell
i wouldnt say 95% but you are not entirely wrong
thats why id like to see review bombs replaced with other ways for the customer to express dissatisfaction with the publisher
Carter Miller
So why even reply to me? Why is the small minority that left negative reviews on rome II getting you so bootyblasted?
Jacob Garcia
Just remove chink reviews, they're the ones abusing reviews.
Matthew Harris
>you have a right to post on a forum owned by someone else and hosted on their servers
Connor Moore
this is essentially the /pol/ argument >if you don't tolerate my autistic screeching, you're a hypocrite
Sebastian Sanchez
>that pic
yikes, thats one angry gamer isnt it?
James Gray
lmao soon as you get BTFO you start complaining about leftists
I like proving dumb people like you wrong. Like forcing a dog's snout into its own shit to teach it.
Are you fucking retarded? Thats dumb as fuck. So if you fuck a kid 20 years ago that should be expunged from your record because you havent done it since?
Isaac Russell
>"User reviews are a thing of the past! Look at all the review bombing and meme reviews! Epic is better off without them!" >Steam decides to take action against meme reviews/review bombing >"LOOK AT HOW STEAM BETRAYED US, THEY'RE LITERALLY CENSORING US" Can't fucking win with these fags.
Lincoln Gutierrez
probably because unfortunately, you aren't as small a minority on Yea Forums
Zachary Gonzalez
Do you still go around shitting/pissing in your bed and having your parents put on diapers for you?
Austin Thomas
Steam has no consistent policies (say they'll allow porn games and have no curation, remove the ones they consider bad aka curation), Steam niggers won't either.
Jack Walker
Someone will always complain, should have made the system opt in though.
Elijah King
>you don't have a right to complain about services that are offered
Christian Flores
>Criticising someone for taking their own side is /pol/ tier Hahah lol How are you proving me wrong? Which statement are you trying to prove wrong? So you're upset about a small ineffective review bomb because people agreeing with it post on Yea Forums?
Zachary Johnson
I get it now, the Epic shills noticed a new angle and are all ITT.
Samuel Murphy
Steam reviewers can lick my fat gooch. They earned this bullshit.
Samuel Nguyen
>Steam removes two games, one that was made for le epick media trolololols, the other that the dev admitted was too raunchy for a public platform >"OMFG WHY ISN'T STEAM CONSISTENT"
If it was opt in rather than opt out then the normies would shit the bed from seeing so many reviews by chinks whining that the game simply isn't translated to their language, or because people keep posting that damn ASCII art of somebody shitting on or flipping off the Epic Store. That's neither helpful to them nor productive in determining the game's quality.
Xavier Hernandez
>Hentai game is removed despite all the women being 18+ and having huge tits because "school setting"
Sorry Steam nigger, their policies suck and don't make sense.
Colton Foster
/pol/ tier is when you call everybody who doesn't like you a "leftist".
99% of the people on Yea Forums are anti-epic and have criticized the lack of user reviews(which was partially due to review bombing) and now the same users are criticizing the steam store for the same thing. This is the exact opposite of "not being able to win". All they had to do was nothing to avoid getting shit on like this.
David Rodriguez
Most are against it in those comments, WTF are you talking about?
Lincoln Parker
THIS IS THE WORST FOOD ANALOGY I'VE EVER SEEN YOU DIDN'T EVEN TRY Censorship is good now apparently.
Jackson Sullivan
This probably. Shills are 100% a reality we have to deal with now unfortunately.
Alexander Turner
Review bombing is stupid anyway. If the game is 100% fixed but broken on launch it shouldn't have a garbage review anymore since the person buying it at that moment wouldn't be in for the broken experience that was had at launch. There should be a way to rectify fuckups at least. If the dev fixes everything they fucked up diligently, it's fucking good. It would have sold like shit at launch of course due to the initial shit reviews, but get better once they fixed it. That's justified.
Oliver Wilson
How is calling some a leftist an argument? You were clearly referring to the "we're allowed to do something..."
Isaac Lewis
They only have to please people who bought the game you fucking retard. Which is exactly how it should be.
Why the fuck shouldn't it be tolerated? The game gets worse, I review it negatively. THIS IS HOW A FUCKING PRODUCT WORKS. IF A CAR SUDDENLY STARTS CUTTING OFF PEOPLE'S ARMS MONTHS AFTER OWNING IT ARE THEY NOT ALLOWED TO CALL THE CAR SHIT AND REVIEW IT NEGATIVELY?
Charles Evans
>downvote your chinner mask slipped, ledditfriend that video wasn't disliked because it was critical of Steam, we've been following videos critical of Steam for the longest time (Steam greenlight, shovelware game spam, etc) that video was disliked because it acts like shovelware spam is some cardinal sin for a platform that warrants jumping into the arms of a blatantly anti-consumer platform cringe and fucking bluepilled
Dominic Murphy
Blame it on the chinks that review bombed that taiwanese game and the fags that review bombed Metro 2033 and Last Light
You have to be a legit retard to care at all about steam reviews. Even more so to actually write any. Absolute mongoloids.
Owen Walker
Your dad taking off the condom shouldn't be allowed.
Robert Davis
>that video wasn't disliked because it was critical of Steam
Bullshit - I can't believe a Steam nigger would spew such nonsense and still believe it. I don't like the commie fatfuck, but he's 100% right about Steam and it's possibly his most disliked video, outdoing even that Cuphead one
more like >THE CAR SMELLS SHIT BECAUSE I JIZZ ON THE HANDLE
Josiah Long
>missed sarcasm It's obvious that it's steam users and not epic shills who are mad with this change.
Jeremiah Parker
GTAV is one of the few examples where hiding the review bombing makes sense that was because take two were being cunts about mods, but they backpeddaled over it the reviews are still there though
Hudson Rodriguez
Oh I didn't realize Rockstar banning people for mods is me jizzing on the steering wheel. You tribal monkey retard.
It is really hard to tell with all the shills in this thread. Sorry.
Jaxon Cox
That's one of the least intelligent comments I read there. Not only because your point is stupid, but because you are retarded and didn't read that this only applies to 'off topic' review bombing.
Lincoln Hall
really hope your arms get cut off so you can't type anymore
Jose White
the only problem in the video is the shilling of the epic store but hes on point with the problems with steam
Also you are kinda implying that users have to forgive devs when they fuck up if they fix it. That's not how it works.
Christian Young
Look at all of his videos in the past over Steam greenlight and shovelware spam, you'll see very well that they're well-liked and spark conversation His most-recent video just says "fuck Steam Epic good bend me over Chang"
Nicholas Diaz
Shilling Epic is fine if it's doing what he thinks is better
Isaiah Gray
>Epic criticized for lacking reviews >Steam censors negative reviews >Shills realize they can use this to make Epic's system look better >Jump to defending it to make it seem like the consumer agrees with having no reviews or at least "curated" reviews
Xavier Perry
Like when Valve actually added a possibility to acquire free cards in their shitty pay to play cardgame. Coincidentally under the new system all the negative reviews their shitty card game got would be removed as review bombing since they happened "within a period" of many offtopic reviews. Really makes you think.
Joshua Watson
>Where were you when Steam decided to silence the customers and just hide negative reviews they don't like because they want to please the publisher instead?
if they really wanted to please the customer they would be taking a lower cut of the sales.
i think we all know exactly who is pleasing who in this case.
He's 100% wrong that Epic is the savior that the PC market needs in response, however. For all the flak Steam gets from him, and all the valid points, he's still embracing a platform that is way worse without looking up what's actually wrong about it first. The mentality of "it's good because it's not Steam" is a dangerous philosophy, and the industry is not done any favors by it.
Hunter Peterson
Epic is nuclear shit, that doesn't excuse Valve from doing faggot shit like censoring negative reviews. WHY IS THERE NO SHITSTORM OVER THIS?
Jayden Fisher
Epic shill, how the fuck does less of my money going to Valve make me happy or not? Fuck you.
Isaac Lopez
Reviews saying a game is broken because of reason X are "off-topic" if it's not broken due to reason X anymore.
Kevin Gray
>He's 100% wrong that Epic is the savior that the PC market needs in response
Well Steam has no competition, and Epic is the only one to challenge their monopoly
Levi Kelly
Steam is being roasted in the comments. It depends if this spreads to reddit and other media.
William Kelly
There is, we're just outnumbered by Epic shills ITT.
Isaac Rodriguez
You broke the previous record by saying something even more retarded. Congratulations.
Justin Smith
Because they're addressing the biggest criticism against user reviews in the best way possible while making it opt-out? There's no censorship.
Noah Gomez
>Steam kills retarded ledit review bombing >Implying that's bad You fags, every single God damn time someone gives you power your stupid circlejerk buddies abuse it What did any of the other metro games had to do with Exodus being a epic exclusive? Nothing, still got review bombed, same shit Everytime some chinks/poorfags can't run a game on their shitty toasters.
I hope this spreads to reddit. Shit like a review being removed because it's "no longer valid and off topic" is wrong. The product was broken at the time. It doesn't matter if they fixed it, it was broken at the time. If a movie releases and hours of amazing content was cut out, it's not on me to update my review saying the movie is actually amazing. What I experienced at the time was dog shit. End of story. >They're addressing the biggest criticism against user reviews The only criticism of user reviews are the very obvious bots. They're pretending like what they're doing is good, but they're taking out legitimate reviews too. THIS IS FULL ON CENSORSHIP YOU SUBHUMAN.
Alexander Carter
>Selling Steam keys is competition.
John Lewis
>muh epic shills please.
some people just did not get jewed into building a 500 indie game library from steam sales that "were just too good pass up" and now suffer from vendor locking / stockholm syndrome and feel obliged to suck gabecuck no matter what.
The system isn't even in place yet and the news post says they're not grandfathering in games that are already on steam. The games they'll be doing this for will be marked. I just tried toggling the setting on and off and GTAV's score is the same. The difference in scores in the third post is the op filtering by his native language.
Easton Taylor
>the ability to pay the devs 100% of your money while giving Steam 0 dollars and 0 cents is a monopoly in Steam's favour based retard
This is dumb because it doesn't consider how long it took to fix. Warhammer 2 took MONTHS to fix the Vampire Coast crash. Hitman 2 still has a game ruining crashes hundreds of people experience. I think the negative reviews should remain in these cases.
Andrew Young
you can opt out youfuckingretard are you really telling me review bombing every single Metro game because Exodus was an Epic exclusive were "legitimate reviews"?
Mason Thomas
>Buying into Steam's system is fighting a monopoly
Whew, good thing I bought Fanta instead of Coca Cola to fight back against them!
Isaiah Scott
>walk into restaurant >try food >warn customers that food is undercooked and poorly prepared >get forced out >restaurant continues to serves poor quality, potentially dangerous food >"I tried to tell them"
Gavin Campbell
IT DOESN'T MATTER IF YOU CAN OPT OUT THIS IS STILL CENSORSHIP
David Myers
Except it's more like you only gave the people who produced the specific can you drank money while telling Coke to get bent. It's not difficult. I'll say it again. Based retard.
Bentley Martinez
>GoG and Origin >Buying into Steam You're a special one, aren't you?
>Half the population can't see negative reviews >no goy, it's okay! It's not censorship! They can choose! See there hidden under fifty menus? They can choose! Go back to eating your glue, retard. Just because you type like this doesn't stop you from being wrong and a faggot
Kevin Walker
It's opt-in, a clever way to exploit people who don't read news or mess with their options.
Easton Johnson
>And the award for "Biggest Retard Alive" goes to you
Noah Bennett
so it has garbage reviews until the game isn't garbage? I don't see how this doesn't make sense. If the game is good, you want to see good reviews. You don't give a fuck if 5 years ago it crashed but now it works fine.
Julian Butler
online stores abide by the rules of reality over teh rules of teh internet
Benjamin King
But they can see the negative reviews, retard. It only filters out the spam ones using shitty ASCII copypasta and whatnot.
Nathan Young
>but now it works fine Irrelevant, at the time it was broken. WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU FAGGOTS SO OBSESSED WITH ERASING THE PAST?
>It only filters out the spam ones Yeah bullshit nigger. Valve even specifically stated that they're going to >Look for periods where there's a lot of negative reviews >Delete them after "manually reviewing" them This is full on censorship. At least the jew epic is kinda enough to let you know ahead of time they're going to be censoring you.
Blake Ward
Except games can be patched. Movies by design cannot be fixed after the fact without it being considered an entirely different release. If one line of code fucks your game, it better sell like shit, but fixing that one line makes it work how people would have want it - yet the dev is still shit and deserves no sales for some reason? They fucking fixed the problem you had with the game, why are you still worried about them failing?
Carter Moore
>they're not reviews because I say so The great arbiter has spoken.
Logan Thomas
It doesn't delete them, fucking retard see
Ryder Williams
>Games can be patched Movies can be patched. Your point? At that point in time, the game was broken, and the review reflects that. Don't like it? Force the government to create a police state where freedom of speech is outlawed then.
Henry Turner
> Normal usage doesn't create that volume of reviews. even if it did it wouldn't have mattered. The tool is only there to notify a team at valve, which in turn checks why the spike has happened and decides whether or not the reviews are related to the game itself.
Owen Ramirez
Except it shows the dev has garbage support and/or don't care too much about fixing critical flaws in a timely matter.
Jayden Phillips
>t. seething drone who doesn't know how steam reviews work
Matthew Walker
>It doesn't delete them Retard see >B-but he said the copy pasta is only gonna be deleted! Not the legitimate reviews! You can trust us! (Also all negative reviews we deem off topic, no longer valid, etc) but you can trust us! Fuck you.
Steam niggers have as much consistency as Steam, and are fighting a losing battle of a sinking ship known as Steam, plugging holes with their fingers
And they're running out of fingers
Asher Roberts
Not erasing the past. I look at a game that runs fine and is a good game, and it has shit reviews due to some problem it no longer has. This doesn't make sense. It should literally display reviews from after it was fixed onward, and if I want to see the "all time" reviews I could go see them by switching the date with which reviews start at.
It makes perfect fucking sense, someone looking at the game is only concerned with how it works when they buy it, not how it worked years ago. They don't have to literally delete reviews, but they should show what makes the most sense to show at present to the user.
Gavin Sullivan
By being trained corporate bootlickers.
Michael Edwards
The biggest critisism according to fucking indie devs who are so bloody afraid that people will notice the turd they shat out that they just don't want user reviews period. Yeah, fucking great system.
Angel Scott
The post I linked literally says that reviews will be filtered
Parker Bennett
>analogies are now a personal attack The argument was that positive changes that occur in a later date somehow do not affect a past state, which is inherently false.
Joshua Thomas
But that's wrong you fucking retard. You're literally pulling shit out of your ass now. Shit that explicitly contradicts what they said in the blog post. The blog post LITERALLY says that they aren't deleting the reviews, only hiding them for the people who don't opt out. But keep believing they will still delete them with literally nothing backing it up besides your own paranoia. If you're gonna resort to slippery slope fallacies you can at least find something to even suggest they'll start doing that shit in the first place.
What value does a review that doesn't reflect the game as it is have? Stop living in the past stupid grampa
Nicholas Lewis
okay but when will they fix MHW's release week review bomb?
Gabriel Howard
I don't even have steam installed how the fuck am I supposed to check you fucking retard?
Jordan Russell
they literally did you mongoloid
Samuel Cook
Thank god. I can finally realease my not working piece of shit and will be spared the critisism of retards who suck everything up they get thrown their way.
Wyatt Robinson
You want some wood to help prop up that strawman?
Lucas Harris
>That doesn't make sense It makes absolute sense. No fix is perfect. A developer claims a game was fixed, it works for one guy but then it doesn't work for another. This already fucking happened to me. I bought a game because one review said it worked and I ignored the one that said it didn't. Guess which was the one that was most like my experience? So go fuck yourself nigger. >You're literally pulling shit out of your ass Valve literally admitted that they're deleting shit like negative reviews for denuvo because they're off topic. This is not out of my ass, this is straight from the horses mouth. Go fuck yourself bugman.
Oliver Gutierrez
>Irrelevant, at the time it was broken This doesn't even try to make since. Yet unwritten reviews from 5 years in the future are irrelevant? No kidding. You wouldn't buy a broken game based on what it'll be in five years and likewise you wouldn't avoid it based on what it was five years before except for the fact that aggregate scores don't reflect this.
Easton Carter
If they didn't fix a major problem in a timely manner they already lost a shitload of sales in that time period anyway. What is the point of wishing them more suffering after having fixed the problem?
Joshua Adams
And it also said they won't be deleted, yet you still said they will be.
Christopher Jackson
>so it has garbage reviews until the game isn't garbage? I don't see how this doesn't make sense. Do you read what you write before hitting "post"? I really am asking becasue that is probabyl one of the dumbest things I read this week.
Owen Clark
>GUYS IT DOES X >no it doesn't, did you even look? >WELL HOW WAS I SUPPOSED TO KNOW I DON'T HAVE IT INSTALLED not exactly helping yourself here
Easton Brown
Yes, they are relevant kid. Learn how software works >It makes absolute sense. No fix is perfect. A developer claims a game was fixed, it works for one guy but then it doesn't work for another. This already fucking happened to me. I bought a game because one review said it worked and I ignored the one that said it didn't. Guess which was the one that was most like my experience?
Andrew Jackson
good we cant have russian trolls and incels ruining hard work of great people working in respectable American corporations
Connor Taylor
Learn to read illiterate faggot. If you open steam and don't go specifically to the news page you won't know it.
Caleb Hughes
>Have to deal with Valve drones defending censorship and Epic drones defending games being stolen from my platform of choice
>we censor you and don't tell you about it >but it's not censorship becasue you can opt out if you read the blog and look trough you options Do you retards even read what this shit is about or is the stockholm syndrome too far progressed for that?
Daniel Rivera
If all the reviews are largely positive five years after the fact, you can rest assured it's been taken care of.
Cameron Cook
CA has literally never improved their QA since they started operating, they need to keep suffering.
Aiden Taylor
>contradicts himself within his first sentece >implying it's an argument kek, thanks for the laugh, retard.
Only because you stopped reading exactly at the point at which the post started contradicting your view. You're using half-truths and cutting out relevant facts to make shit seem worse than it is. They literally said that these posts WON'T be deleted arfter that, but you didn't read beyond that point because you don't care about the full context, you mouthbreather.
You are completely retarded. Just because you fixed a bug doesn't mean that you are forgiven for the bug. Nor does it make the review 'off topic', because it doesn't change the dev released a piss poor shitty bug piece of shit and tried to shove it down the customers.
Hunter Powell
>look trough you options So many of you keep using this bullshit when it's entirely not true. The option shows up before you even reach the reviews. Thanks for going through the effort to effectively type "I have no clue what I'm talking about." We can all just laugh and ignore you from now on if you ever type this shit again. see
Think that's when they started banning for mods in the online mode or something.
Jordan Foster
Should also have the guy handing him the briefcase full of money, because developers have said they get paid by Epic for that Exclusivity.
Cooper Gutierrez
>he can't read let alone comprehend a couple simple words Thanks for proving my point I guesst. In the end you drones aren't that much different from the insects after all.
People who buy a game after the fact just want to know if it's presently enjoyable and don't care about extending your personal vendetta against the dev over bugs that got patched out already.
Julian Rodriguez
>when that isn't remotly what was happening When insects show up it's always a good time to abandon he thread.
But the system filters both negative and positive reviews for the review bombing timeframe. Retard.
Brandon Kelly
The review has no reason to give the game a negative rating because they didn't follow the minimum requirements listed.
Jeremiah Anderson
>a autistic GTA4 fanboy doesn't like people like GTA5 Bowling Simulator is boring
Jason Ward
>no counterpoint despite using your own words verbatim to make my own point Your vbux cash is going to run dry any month now Chang, enjoy your slice of bread a day while you can
Dylan Miller
How is telling someone that they still shit in their bed and diapers an analogy?
Wrong. Just because you fix a game 2 years after release doesnt negate the fact that for 2 years prior you were douching on everyone you made pay 60 bucks for your shit game. People have a right to know that the company treats customers like trash
>STEAM CENSORS REVIEWS AND YOU CAN ONLY OPT OUT IF YOU SIFT THROUGH OPTIONS >You don't have to sift though, the option literally shows up before you even reach the review section >HA SEE YOU AGREE WITH ME b____ r_____
Mason Brown
The irony is that you didn't read the entire post yet think you have the high ground to someone who did.
>Q: Are you deleting reviews? >A: No, we are only changing the way we calculate a game's Review Score. All reviews are left untouched, and if you still want to see the raw Review Score, you're welcome to make that change in your Steam Store Preferences.
This LITERALLY confirms that they aren't deleting these reviews, and you are pulling it out of your ass that they are.
Who in the fuck are you to say what people want? Me and a lot of other people want to know if a dev is trustworthy, because if they fuck up once they can fuck up again.
Zachary Gomez
>gets btfo multiple times >literally posts evidence that supports me >needs to misrepresent himself now to have any ground left standing Please stop, my sides are fucking dying.
Keep going, brainlet. Maybe you manage to read it to the end, tough considering the limited attention span you showed I seriously doubt that.
Caleb Gomez
what was the reason for the gta5 review bomb?
Alexander Anderson
They tried to block modding.
Nathaniel Scott
>still pretending this hard oh and I also forgot >doesn't know the difference between a strawman and a meme English is a pretty tough language, it's probably hard to interpret obvious jokes from reality through text when it's not your primary language, that's probably why your PM doesn't like to be called Winnie the Pooh
well thats definitely a legit reason for review bombing and their shitty blog post is a complete lie then because it said they wouldnt block it for legit reasons. fuck valve, theyve been hijacked by californians or something.
Parker Morales
cool off topic post, bro
Dylan Cox
>general opinion a shit game is shit "General" opinion is that candy crush is a fucking awesome game. Better only play that anymore. And CoD, and AssCreed. The "general opinion" is worthless, as the majority of mankind is stupid as fuck, giving games they simply don't like a bad review (an extreme example would be that one Double Dragon game). And going on the fact that the majority is fuckin stupid: stupid people don't really read reviews (or read at all, anything ever, for that matter), they just see the red numbers and go "red numbers bad, game bad". Can't really fault Valve for trying to shift the game towards their favor by abusing fucktards.
Bentley Jackson
>walk into restaurant >food is good >chef suddenly comes and shits on it >get escorted out of restaurant
Jack Walker
Nice try insect, I suggest a dictionary for the next thread.
>Who in the fuck are you to say what people want? I can do this on the same ground that you've decided I and everyone else should be directed away from good games because you're still mad about old bugs which should never be forgiven. If want to know the dev's history of bugfixes for the game, the guy several posts up who started this already said they should be preserved for those who care. Old bugs don't reflect the current state of the game you're buying.
Sebastian Reyes
>oh no, i can't download and install my shitty nude sex mod, better review bomb! imagine unironically doing this, and not calling yourself a faggot
>90% of the most-downloaded mods are fixes that the devs should've applied themselves in a patch >devs try to kill off mods >people get angry >"LOL YOU JUST WANT SEX MODS LOOOOOL" You're trolling outside of Yea Forums.
Hudson Cooper
>Your review get taken down if you legitimately don't like a game and get a refund for it. So you have to own a game you don't like to comment on it?
thought it was only R* trying to kill off mods, now there's more?
Alexander Anderson
by "devs" I was trying to imply R*, I just wanted to simplify the conversation to show just how stupid it truly is
Jace Lewis
Wrong, fuck off.
James Diaz
I started to play it last week, and I like it. However the DLC is almost required if you want to play anything else than the easy countries like spain/ottomans/England/France
Henry Robinson
> I loved Steam and Valve Loved this garbage company after what they've done to tf and dota?