Tim Sweeny caught lying about Epic launcher sniffing your steam files

>Epic gets some shitty NuCOM clone
>Steam gets Halo MCC
Who cares? We are coming home boys.

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because things like this require a bit of know-how and background information. People usually only here to fling shit at each other. Same reason why there are no video game game creating tips threads, but big anime tits are the standard

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>BUT STEAAAAAM
This is the only time I'll feed you drones.
Provide evidence.

The ToS detailing exactly what benign stats they use is not equivalent to possible corporate espionage.

Provide proofs? Remember that Epic is spying on things completely unrelated to it's store and your actions on it so you have to prove steam is doing that rather than keeping a file of what you buy and play on steam.

>lightweight
What the fuck. Is this whole body acceptance meme spreading to program performance or something?

Hope Xi Jinping pays you well enough to ruin every thread you visit

>Epic launcher sniffing your steam files.
imagine the smell

It's not even true, Epic usually takes more prosessing power than Steam, and Gaben('s system) is a little on the heavy side to begin with.

The piece of shit that is the steamspy guy turned out to be secretly working for the competitor, epic
Now this
Cool

dude these dudes are not workers anymore, they are indoctrinated morons who believe they are doing the right thing, or complete mouthbreathers who say the opposite of the things just for shit and giggles

>implying they get paid
>implying they aren't doing so as to not get sent to a reeducation camp

it's not like if the EU catches wind of this they are going to be less fucked, that's not how laws work

ec.europa.eu/commission/sites/beta-political/files/national-data-protection-authorities-jan_2018_en.pdf

there's the list for the relevant authorities for gdpr, tho i'm not sure it applies since i'm not a lawyer

>Same reason why there are no video game game creating tips threads
But there are? I mean most just post in AGDG but you still see some dev threads here and there pop up.

why would i care about giving developers a better deal

what a retard. he didn't manage to decrypt it if he still thinks its in a binary format. he has no proof that he decrypted it successfully.

Because
1. Steam doesn't read your internet history (unless using Steam's browser of course)
2. Steam isn't majority owned by a Chinese company
2b Chinese companies are legally obligated to share any information to the Chinese Government, hence most Anglo countries banning Huawei products and barring them from 5G.

>Lightweight

The only worse performing launcher i've used is bethesda's piece of shit.

this unfortunately

nvm i see the .lastplayed

>those tales of boomer dad repairing his old car himself back in the day while people have now issues switching tires
we are reliving them right now in a new technology with pc knowledge. Tech-illiteracy is hitting us hard.

>why should gamers shop at epic store
>it gives developers a better deal
It doesn't give ME a better deal you fucking RETARDS.

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funny how threads calling Epic a chink botnet get hundreds of replies too. this place is just cancer all around. it has nothing to do with shills.

this, the whole lightweight crap is irrelevant since origin back in the bf3 days

bethesda's and the origin launcher don't even work for me and haven't for months now
I noticed someone complaining that they had problems too and said he had to reinstall the origin launcher every time

>Lightweight
Lie.
>Gives developers a better deal
Has nothing to do with the gamer.

>he doesn't care about his devs
people like you are some of the stupidest valve drones.

>here and there pop up
just like how these uncovering of slimy tactics pop up "here and there", but they are not the main focus of people who come here.

If you actually cared about the devs you'd buy straight from their website or the Discord store

That is the only argument Epic has. Obviously, if devs get more money per copy sold, more money will go into the next game. Devs might take an higher cut too, but in the end at least part of that extra cut will go fund the next game.

Doesn't make it worth to use Epic

they are not your friends fucko

>Epic confirmed Spyware.
this was already confirmed. they had no reason to be making preemptive copies of absolutely every bit of steam data if all they were doing were importing friends only when you gave permission.

>hissssss
>stupidsss valve dronesss
great post friend

brainlet
take a look at the hex in the bottom of OP's screenshot. He doesn't know the correct file structure / formatting of the decrypted output but it's obvious that "last played" and other information is included from the clear text ASCII and subsequent hex values. this is an entirely new file that EGS creates from the steam data files

Fair enough, that's a good point.

True, paying for a game on Steam is just as bad as pirating the game.

typical valve drone. the only thing that matters to them is how much of gaben's cock they can suck.

what a fuckin' loser!

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this is what I get for taking a break before finishing my reply
apologies user

Nice deflection user

i'm typical capitalist you nignog
you do product, i pay for it and it is my choice where i want my product to be
you work for me nigger, not the other way around

>valve only making games to push microtransactions
>epic spyware and exclusivity garbage
is it time to legalize piracy?

I stopped caring about the devs that switched over to epic DESU. They obviously don't give a shit about their customers so why should we care about them?

>ignores my argument
yes, your post is so much better

Because OP didn't tell user he should dislike thing. How is user supposed to know to dislike thing?

That's the thing though, Epic is giving developers cash up front AND covering for lost sales when they sign them for an exclusivity deal, this is exactly what happened with Phoenix Point. They covered their development costs, AND are covering for the refunds that people are asking for. If a game is on the Epic Store, you have no reason to buy it because the devs are already being paid.

Remember months ago when people were worried that the guy behind SteamSpy was working on the Epic Store?
Well look where that got us

Nah, I don't care about publishers. You know, the guys that get all the money from sales long after devs have been paid.

Why aren't you buying directly from the devs then so they get an even bigger cut than any storefront would give them?

because being a capitalist doesn't mean you have to optimize for your own gain all the time. you can include the interests of others. if you are in the US then using Epic costs the same as Steam anyways.
>you work for me nigger, not the other way around
yep, just another underage edgelord valve drone who doesn't understand how the world works.

>gives developers a better deal
You mean publishers and I don't give two shits about them. What can you do for me?

There is absolutely no reason to use Epic over Steam.

清衝 清昌台灣

Social credit points if you behave.

>locking games behind exclusivity deals
that shit only flies with consoles, the chinese govt. definitely doesn't understand PC culture. they'll nab a niche audience but they're engendering ill will from even more people. no one cares about Epic launcher selling games, but exclusivity shit and bribing publishers and devs with minimums is poor foresight.

Wire the studio money if you care so much.
What's that? You wont? You don't have to care about yourself all the time user, gosh.

Nigger, i told you before, I can chose where I want to buy my stuff, and if it ain't there, they ain't getting my money, beauty of capitalism
but to return you a favour
yep, just another underage epic drone who doesn't understand how business work

>Turns out he actually datamined for Epic to kickstart their store
>He actually got some Patreon cash out of it
What a scumbag, holy shit.

Laugh now but China's bullshit will be world standard in 20 years at the rate the west is going

nice to see someone intelligent finally working on this instead of that racist reddit autist. this is what these posts exposing epic should look like. short, concise, and clear. not a 500 word rant about the chinese with links to a web of other 300 word reddit posts you made just to communicate one piece of evidence and its implication

if they have a game you want that steam doesn't, then yes, there is a reason.

Amazing right? And you and all your moral superiority had nothing to do with it!

or you could just pirate it

They don't have any games that won't eventually come to steam, and by waiting I don't have to install literal malware on my computer.

why would I give a shit

fuck the chinese

I torrented exodus sorry amigo, good thing I didn't buy it because it wasn't very good

But you can sell Steam games for 100% of the profit in the form of keys.

>Console war BS on PC
Didnt expect this desu.

Wrong. Games on the Epic Store are the easiest to crack because Epic puts no money on security, and coupled with the fact that most, if not all third-party games on the Epic Store have their costs covered by Epic itself, is reason enough for you to pirate the game instead of buying it.

Wrong.
Epic pays for a minimum sales quota, so they bought my pirated copy for me.

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Press D to Dab on epicdrones

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you can thank all the great publishers that are just looking out for you

I could just pirate it. Devs doesn't get hurt from this considering they're already paid for lost sales

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and devs, the Phoenix Point devs approached the Epic

this, based epic, actually encouraging people to pirate without harming muh fellow failed indie californian poor devs

>All these racists that have a problem with corporations being funded by a Chinese Government owned entity that traps it's citizens in a dystopian hellscape.

Stop misusing words like this, Jesus christ. No wonder you have to dig up shit like incel when you devalue existing language so hard.

good point, now there REALLY is no ethical qualm

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I go from hating to loving Europe every other week it seems. I hope Germany's 5th Reich rectally ravages Ep*c beyond any hope of recovery for this.

you just destroyed the last argument of a moralfag. holy shit why didn't I think of this before?

Lightweight is just Paidjournalist for lacks tons of basic and some necessary features.

>Phoenix Point reddit rose up together as gamers and banned the mods that also were Snapshot employees
Pretty based for a bunch of reddit queers, I wonder, has Yea Forums ever done anything like that?

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DEVELOPERS ARE PAID ON SALARY YOU TWIT. YOU'RE LITERALLY SUCKING PUBLISHER COCK YOU UTTER BUFFOON.

>misusing words
no i didn't. i used racism correctly. you guys just spam "HURR BUGMEN tiANEMENM SQYQUARE", which is exactly what racism is defined to be. and no, there is still no evidence that Tencent has been making Epic gather data for China. So far all we found was that they were gathering steam user data for their own interests.

>banned the mods that also were Snapshot employees
Based redditards

Yeah, they were deleting and editing posts to try and shape the narrative.

where do you think that salary comes from? their salaries get raised if their game is predicted to sell well.

Calm down Tommy.

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>tfw cracked Rusky games spy less on you than Epic and Valve
Pirates win again baby!

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Dunno about Yea Forums, but /g/ doxxed every single Microsoft shill since 2013. The mods didn't even stop it

Only thing I remember about Yea Forums in terms of anti-shill is during the Watch_Dogs marketing

The only thing that’s better is the developer’s cut, and most people don’t give a shit. I’d love devs to get more cash, but I’m not going to eat shit for that.

Also, it’s not sucking Gabe’s dick to use the better store. I’m not gonna use a Chinese fortnite shop with less features no matter what bad words you call me, doo doo heads.

what are you even trying to say? the reddit autist didn't even undertand 90% of the things he was looking at. the thought it was fucking with root certs when in reality any piece of software could be interacting with root certs for a number of valid reasons. he only had one piece of good evidence but he kept talking about the other 90% and trying to spin the narrative that Epic is mining everything on your computer and sending it to china.

those devs propably earn 10 times the amount of my income.
why would i want to give them even more cash?

fucking lol

lucky enough theres nothing i want up there until epic decides that they should start jewing fighting game devs

all this epic store hate reminds me of steam 2004-2007 hate
then boomers became a minority and everyone shut the fuck up
this will happen again and there's nothing you can do

>he thinks devs are rich
lmao just stop. you are clearly underage at this point. the only rich guys are the people at the top in the company and in the publisher's company

>their salaries get raised if their game is predicted to sell well.
lmao, maybe when you get a job you'll understand how business works.

The only outings on Yea Forums have been the shills themselves after they're let go.
We're a lazy bunch. Calling people shills is enough to call it a day.

Were they all really street shitters?

These very threads are us rising up against the Chinese bugmen shills, which are out in full force.

yes, they are fucking rich, dumb retard.
videogame devs earn about 6k monthly

You mean
>MUHNOPOLY

retard. small game studios making games that aren't going to do very well like the people who developed metro exodus can't afford to spend much money on development, which means smaller salaries. meanwhile working at a AAA studio making the next CoD will pay a decent salary, but you have to remember how big those studios are so they are splitting the money between tons of people and with Activision.

>Phoenix Point
Went Epic only? Wow, fuck them. I was looking forward to that game, but guess not.

nice

Who's this QT?

>72k a year
lmao thats "rich" to you? kys my dude. indie devs don't even make anything near that unless they are the 1 in a 1000 that are a major success. most studios besides AAA studios struggle to break even.

just pirate it, epic already paid for your copy

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she for johnny only you faggot

>which means smaller salaries
No it means smaller development teams, the salary parity between big devs and small devs is pretty similar. You're a fucking child if you thing the salary of the average code monkey is effected by a game's success.

Nah, I don't even give them the benefit of my interest. I have better things to play.

Yes

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Really nigga?

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there are people that work double as much, and risk their fucking lives for a job that earns them 2k per month.
all dev's are doing is following orders, create bugs and shitpost on twitter, yet they earn 6k monthly+ as BAD EARNING dev.
but oh yeah, poor fucking dev need support!

I can't wait for Jim Sterling's exposé into this. He's always standing up for the little guy.

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fuck off, fatty

Motherfucker doesn't even pretend to have a product that is worth using. Instead, you can see pure disdain for the people he's supposed to sell this shit to.
>shits in the corner
>"Here, you will now pay me for this. Fuck you."
>sprays a wet fart in your face as he takes the money

>small game studios like the people who developed metro exodus
Oh no, this poor small developer with one hundred and fifty employees and two separate offices!

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>STEAM BAD
>EPIC GOOD
Yeah we'll see

>program literally looks through your browsing history, program history and all of your steam data
not spyware guys

you have no clue.
why do you think indie dev shit steam full of fast production shovelware shit if it earns them nothing?
how fucking brainwashed are you?

>It doesn't give ME a better deal
Yes it does, I got Metro Exodus for 50 dollars.

>Epic and Tencent employees working round the clock on trashing Steam and datamining their users and their friends, whereas Steam employees working round the clock servicing Steam users so they can play games and have fun
It's that simple. Fuck Xi Jinping.

i got it for free

He'll be more interested in condemning pewdiepie. He's too dumb to cover this, he thinks packet sniffing is what he does to his wife's busted out pussy after she comes back from seeing tyrone.

yes, poor fucking dev. if you are buying from small studios, like all the studios that Epic has bribed so far, then yes, they do need the support. why do you think they took Epic's deal in the first place? because their projected sales were so bad tha they needed the safety net of a minimum sales quota deal. if they fail to hit that quota then even with Epic making up the difference they still probably won't be breaking even on the game. Devs salaries also get raised once a released game does well, and that money leftover is needed to fund salaries for the next game. if there is no money, then salaries will be garbage for the next game.

Not for long.

Worse yet, they went Epic only, and then spat in the face of their backers, stating that each and every one of the backers could refund, and they'd still be financially in the clear. Worse yet, they said THEY approached Epic Games (and not the other way around), and they EXPECTED there to be outrage and refunds. In other words, they took backers' money as an interest-free loan, then once they had a product made using that loan, they sold it off to Epic, breaking their promise of Steam and GoG releases.

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i don't buy shovelware, and i assume you don't either. if you are buying good indie games, chances are the devs spent lots of time and money pushing it out of the door and that the devs are still facing decent chances of not even breaking even because of it.

50 cent army.

>why do you think they took Epic's deal in the first place?
>why do streamers beg for donations, even though they have 100k views on their channel
>why do famous youtubers make buisness deals with fake opinions advertisers
BECAUSE THEY ARE GREEDY, retard.

lol and people are mad at Epic over this? If Epic approached them I could kinda understand even though its still the devs fault for breaking promises with backers. If they approached epic first though then this has absolutely nothing to do with Epic being shitty and entirely with the devs being shitty.

This is the future.

>suddenly no Epic shilling threads
I wonder why

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Just standard software processes gweilo

Fucking bullshit. Fuck those bastards, why would anyone support such shitty anti consumer practices?

They don't get anything out of the deal if they sell well you retard. Epic only makes up the difference in revenue if they fail to sell a minimum number of units. So its a safety net for if their game goes under.

>DUH FATTER PROFITS FOR SHAREHOLDERS PEASANT. NOW HAND OVER THE SAME AMOUNT OF MONEY.

there is no epic shilling retard. no one is trying to spin false narratives in favor of Epic. everyone understands that Epic is illegally stealing all of your steam data, literally every little bit, and blatantly lying to our faces about it.

>They don't get anything out of the deal if they sell well you retard
epic games is literally fucking paying them.
stop being this irresponsible fucking brainwashed.
someimes indie devs dont earn anything because their game was simply a huge fucking load of crap, and not due to bad buiseness deals.

retard. The only thing they get if they do well is a slightly larger cut than on steam. Epic is not paying them up front to be on the Epic Store. Clearly you are a retard who has no idea what you're talking about. im done replying.

Some of the faggots defending epic are just le epic funposters and contrarians but some are shills.

>Epic is not paying them up front to be on the Epic Store
they basically are

>pp devs state that if everyone refumded they would still be in the black
>THEY'RE NOT BEING PAID FUCKING STEAMDRONE
Silly shill

>Epic is not paying them up front to be on the Epic Store.
Funny how you say that when devs themself confirmed this and you have a fucking screencap of proof in this very thread you fucking nigger shill.

nope. they are offering minimum sales deals. they are not "basically" paying them up front

his claim on releasing the data through steamspy was for the good of consumers and developers

and then said "lol fuck no and fuck you" when asked if the epic store data would be released too

>somehow signing a contract guaranteeing a certain amount of money regardless of sales isn't all but equivalent to paying them up front

Lightweight? I've seen tons of people complaining about the CPU usage with Epic.

If they mean "lightweight" as in "fewer features", sure. But in terms of bogging your system down? Nah.

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yes it isn't, because the devs get nothing if their game does well. learn how business works you underage faggot.

I remember when he went complaining about Valve destroying steam spy, after complying to the GDPR, and all bloggers grieving his loss... Then surprise, he was working for epic for the past 2 years
The epic store currently offers 26 games
It's a fucking joke
>Muh fortnite audience
How many of those even own a credit card?

where is it then?

>the devs get nothing if their game does well
if they thought their game was going to do well, they wouldn't have reduced their possible audience in exchange for a minimum sales deal.

no you ignorant twat, this mentality led us to modern day blizzard bethesda and riot, giving these people the benefit of the doubt and more money only serves to ruin them, they think they can get away with whatever stupid shit they want because they have your good faith and find new ways to take money from you, fuck off

A pol tard removed 50 people personally.

exactly. epic saved these studios, and its not epics fault that they made the choice to move

Especially in this age with ass fucking level micro transactions in every game. They got enough money.

Any chance Epic is scanning my loli folder as well?!
Those are my lolis! Let them get their own

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>epic saved these studios
in the short term. With most of these games, and with Phoenix Point especially, I sincerely doubt the decision to go to Epic will work out for them in the long run.

time to crank up a virtual machine and ida and tear this piece of shit apart

wasn't that a cripplechan fag

no, your lolis are safe.

post more lolis pls.

>Epic gets some shitty NuCOM clone
>Steam gets Halo MCC
>Who cares? We are coming home boys.

>Phoenix POint, a spiritual successor to the original X-COM, made by its creator
>shitty NuCOM clone

No wonder you like Halo.

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Beyond licensing an engine and their tools development only costs labor. The former two points are investments anyways. Interestingly the example you listed uses an in-house engine, so we can conclude that "development costs" outside of 3D/2D tools that labor is the sole cost.

Where all the other money goes is marketing, buying up TV air and buying into interviews and shipping lead designers to press. When it's all said and done the rest goes up the pipeline to lead, management, executives, shareholders each in order getting more and more money than the next.

>I have better things to play
Fucking this. Epic can go fuck themselves if they think their exclusivity garbage means anything when there are so many games to play on PC already.

in house engine doesn't mean free you retard. they have to invest dev time and money into making and improving the engine.

>>Phoenix POint, a spiritual successor to the original X-COM, made by its creator
>shitty NuCOM clone
have you seen it? Everything about it except free aim and time units looks identical to nu-XCOM. It was specifically made to bank off the success of XCOM 2.

Gollop hasn't made a good game since Apocalypse

>from the gamer's perspective
>gives the developer a better deal
Are they literally retarded?

"Lightweight" in dev speak means, not confusing. It's the fucking Ipod of UIs. Same with shit like 'non-intrusive'. It doesn't mean that it actually isn't intrusive, it's just that it's not going to tell you about the shit it's doing. Literal buzzwords.

That's it, I've pwn'd the Dark Army. *Music intensifies*

>made by its creator
A creator who decided to fuck all his backers by changing storefronts and not delivering keys for the two storefronts promised after his game had been crowdfunded because he was paid to and made the refund process unnecessarily and arbitrarily inconvenient and restrictive.

So he can fuck himself, I don't care what he created, he clearly cared more about money than he did about what his backers wanted and had paid for. He flat-out said he knew there would be backlash and made the decision based on the fact that even if 100% of backers refunded he'd still make money.

>2. Steam isn't majority owned by a Chinese company
Neither is Epic. You are aware that they are a private company, right?

brb, locking down my loli stash on the neighbor's insecure wifi

>if they have a game you want that steam doesn't
But then I wouldn't want it anymore...
No steam, no buy.

It falls into labor cost you fucking idiot. They're not paying 10% royalties on every game sold because they invested $250k in labor one time and incrementally add and optimize features on an as necessary basis. Sure as shit beats losing $6 on top of $7.20 and whatever else they have to pay for any other content like licensed music and negotiated VA contracts, and publisher cut.

>You are aware that they are a private company, right?
You are aware that just because a company is private doesn't mean it can't be partially/fully owned by another company, right? But you are correct that it isn't majority owned by Tencent, they only have 40% stake.

>a spiritual successor to the original X-COM, made by its creator
If kickstarter has taught me anything it is that this is no positive.

>Spoiler
Do people really do that shit? I would've thought that people would have the foresight lock that shit down in 2004+15.

>Bloodstained

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Does ANYONE have Epic installed but not Steam? There's no way anybody is that retarded, right?

It doesn't give me a better deal, faggot. I'm happy to be on Steam but fuck me I wouldn't go to epic even if they pay me. And what do devs have to do with this, even? Is this nigger retarded? Convenient to use my ass.

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probably the minority of Fortnite kiddies who play on PC

all we as consumers owe them is money for the products they make that we deem worth the value
fuck off, they deserve nothing else. it's their job

well to be fair it is pretty convenient to use considering how small the catalog is

Don't you need it to use unreal engine?

>Have you seen it? Everything about it except free aim and time units looks identical to nu-XCOM.
What do you mean, 'except free aim and time units'? Time units alone makes combat play out completely different than nuXCOM. And it's not just that

>time units
>aiming at body parts
>no pods
>inventory system
>abilities are on a limited resource (willpower) rather than cooldowns
>a far deeper strategy layer, with factions and different bases
>and hundreds of other mechanics that make it radically different from NuXCOM

You have to be genuinely mentally retarded it's similar to more similar to nuxcom than OG X-COM.

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Were you a dev yourself, you wouldn't say this retarded gay shit.

By this logic, picrelated is the most convenient device to ever be produced.

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yeah who would ever think this game looks like Nu-XCOM

I was looking forward to it before this debacle, but it's hard to deny Gollop was trying to evoke nu-XCOM to bank off its success.

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sure thing valve drone.

>use Epic if you're a good boy who loves his game devs

The map sure looks like XCOM2 but that's all there is.

At least there's still Xenonauts 2, right?

>bitching about every tiny thing
incels are so disgusting

computer programs don't have weight

It is really convenient though.

the character, the gun, and the style all look like XCOM

retard.

you mean besides the UI ripped straight from XCOM 2

>made by its creator
this means nothing

>lightweight storefront
>still can't control download rates in app itself
>Can't set yourself to offline/invisible without killing it entirely
So nice and streamlined, it's still missing features almost every other digital storefront has had for years!

yeah but ur ugly

based autist, lel

>Mighty Number 9, a spiritual successor to Mega Man, made by its creator
>Bloodstained, a spiritual successor to Symphony of the Night, made by its creator
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

retarded retardist

/pol/ and Yea Forums are responsible for killing literally hundreds of people
>baneposting a planecrash
>dank memeing on a mosque
>Breivik
>boomer country music showdown

Don't see much difference.

>if you are in the US then using Epic costs the same as Steam anyways.
no it doesn't, steam is 50% cheaper due to them allowing keys

all epic employees are working to take the floss dance out of fortnite now

This
literally got Total Warhammer 2 for fucking 30$ on release day with the DLC due to key sites

Cripplechan was literally created because Moot didn't want Gamergate stuff here.

>mighty number 9

>developers
Yeah right. They just feed greedy publishers.

Yeah, just 40%, which is about nothing. Pretty sure they aren't even taken into account when regarding important matters. The fact that they don't represent majority doesn't mean they have no control over the company. based retard

Like I said. "Lightweight" is PR talk for stupid UI. It's a store made for idiots that can't navigate their computer without someone holding their hand.

>LIGHTWEIGHT
they've been using supercomputers to run their Unreal Bloat 4 for so long that they think fucking EPIC LAUNCHER is LIGHTWEIGHT

AHHHHHH

I haven't particularly given much of a shit about devs throughout my 20+ years playing video games so why would I when Epic suddenly comes along? hahahaha

none of the shills in epic threads have ever given me a straight answer when i ask them how i benefit from the devs getting a better deal. are they going to stop gouging for dlc and microtransactions because they're getting 90% instead of 70%?

Epic can go to hell for killing UT and for popularizing third-person cover-shooter console bores.

People here also claimed that the files are created after opting in to using the steam friends feature on EGS.
Except that feature was added May 30 and the files were created May 4.

It literally looks like someone threw an overlay mod on xcom, what the fuck are you talking about.

It existed before that, just nobody used it.

Scraping data from competition for your developers means a better deal. :^)

>tfw no storefront will ever top Steam's godly bandwidth for downloads
Feels good

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>why should gamers buy from the store
>it gives developers a better deal

OH, are you telling me the microtransactions and day one DLC are not enough for these poor poor souls?

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It's almost like most people consuming video games don't care about how they are created.

Or I'll just play something else instead on buy it on Steam at a discount 6 or 12 month later.

>Feels good

i mean it would feel better if someone actually did stuff better than valve, actual competition

GoG fills a decent niche but besides that

Don't use cirno for your shitpost please.

>shitty NuCOM clone

i actually wanted to play it, thats why i got so fucking pissed i finally uninstalled the epic launcher, i wanted to try my free copy of shadow complex i got before this buttfuckery, but screw it, fuck epic, fuck fortnite, fuck the people's republic of china and fuck winnie the pooh

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t. China

I love GOG but when using Galaxy its downloads can get fucky

Giving people fast download speed is toxic consumer-focus, retard.

I mean we know Epic is terrible so why the hell is Steam overhauling their free market-ness with multiple aspects getting more regulation? Is Epic scaring them that much? Are they preparing to buy exclusives next?

its pretty funny for me really, i bought freedom force and was trying to download it directly from GoG and i just couldnt, i used galaxy and things went perfectly, so i cant say is 100% useless

That was a hard lesson in not trusting kickstarter projects. 60 bucks down the drain. at least Capcom is back on track now.

How is it possible that pic related lowered the bar for the entire planet so fucking far through the floor it's now somewhere in Bejing having unprotected sex with Jackie Chan's daughters while snorting meth off Charley Sheen's taint lads? It shouldn't be physically possible for one man/creature (?) to fuck things up this badly for 7.7 billion people, it just defies any and all laws of physics and probability.

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Valve starting to moneyhat like Epic Games and paying indie devs in advance for their shitty shovelware has to be the end goal.

I wouldn't be surprised

Eh, just move to the next game in your backlog. Or pirate.

guess so, could be worse

god i wish the devs of battletech woek the hell up and delivered an XCOM-tier expansion

that game is super solid and has so much potential

>better balance
>more weapons
>bigger squads
>combined arms warfare

i had a good time but this game could be a total masterpiece with the right focus

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Can you put a pic up of Phoenix Point so we can see a comparison?

Jesus i hope not, last thing we need is more exclusive shit

certainly

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>gives developers a better deal
Why the fuck should I care about this? Give ME a better deal.

Thanks ano
>Advent
>XCOM
user, thats another XCOM picture

I think they really hoped to bank on virtue signaling and eventually win a war of attrition against Steam.

Kill yourself Chink

oh sorry, my mistake

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This is actually straight up lies im sick of exclusive games on fucking pc drm store shit

1) they clearly dont give a shit about me since they are not allowing me to buy the damn game wherever i want, why should i care about them?
2) im paying for their fucking salary, i have 600+ games on steam plus a couple on GoG, i couldve easily pirated like 90% of them, but i chose not to, is this the thanks i get? fuck every worthless dev that takes this deal with the devil

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Thats ano
>Phoenix Point
Wait what the fuck, that's not XCOM? It looks almost identical to XCOM 2.

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so... where are the playtimes?

Attempting to buy a monopoly with shitty indies wasn't a very bright idea.

It goes even deeper. Epic is aggressively trying to put Steam out of business, what will happen to those games if Steam is forced to close its doors? The devs supporting Epic are also supporting shitty anti-consumer monopoly practices, they deserve all the ire directed at them.

Yeah, there's no way this doesn't sound super sketchy, despite all the attempts of certain sites to spin it.

If this wasn't such a big deal then why did they lie about it?

Also, doesn't this violate GDPR?

>The fact that they don't represent majority doesn't mean they have no control over the company
No shit you stupid fuck, but the literal objective fact remains that they don't have majority control, and no amount of you moving goal posts around will change that.

Hey, he finally responded to that comment about exclusivity from a years back

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devs are already paid the final stage is publisher making $$$
fuck off epic drone shill

So considering Gollop Goy~kun shafted all the backers by switching from GOG and Steam to Epic after promising otherwise, shouldn't he and his shitty game be sent straight to court for what i think is supposedly insider trading or something?
Why the fuck is the vidya gaman industry seemingly exempt from traditional laws? Why does big corp get to constantly push for shit like SOPA, and other anti-consumer scam deals on the net, but actual pro-citizen lawsets are nowhere to be seen? Why am i forced to assist jewgle in making sentient cars that can drive schlomo goldstein to ching chong chinaman's dog whine and dine resyayrant through shitty captcha exams?

>score hidden
what is this fag shit?

Run this script in Windows Powershell as admin, then look at the folder those .bak files are in and read the txt files

Get-Item "C:\ProgramData\Epic\SocialBackup\*.bak" | % { ([system.Text.Encoding]::UTF8).GetString(($_ | Get-Content -Encoding Byte | % { [byte]($_ -bxor 0xff) })) | Set-Content ($_.FullName + ".txt") }

It's reddit's shitty response to all the "oh you have an opinion? must be wrong cause its downvoted" hivemind. Doesn't work

Both are shit, Dwarf Fortress is what really separates Steam from Epic

>all these pedos with something to hide

lmao

The comment is too new or something like that.
Source: I am a redditfag

>Valve offering Valve games
>Epic offering games from many different publishers
What did he mean by this

We would need a mod on our side in order to ban the bad mods.

He never used Steam

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WTF? I did this and now my computer won't boot up? it just keeps restarting and restarting?
FUCK YOU

fuck off chink, all it does is decrypt the .bak files

Did he just call moneyhatting pro-competitive?

Glad I never installed that shit. Fortnite company can go fuck itself.

Never ever trust a Chinese company, or anything owned by a Chinese company.

Like he can't be THAT delusional can he? He writes it like the only games on steam are DotA/CS:GO and Epic is the one with 30k games, wild.
Years ago I actually respected the guy a lot, what a fucking mess. At least his forest conservation is neat.

>it's a lightweight storefront
Get it?Because it doesn't have any games.

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Post a link to the thread so I can call him a retard and mention that Steam sells games from many different publishers.

reddit.com/r/pcgaming/comments/b1fre2/to_the_people_who_believe_that_epic_games_is/

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oh yeah, as we all know steam only sells valve games

hey timmy, what if valve decided to play by your own stupid rules, buy exclusivity for all those games youve been giving out for free like subnautica and slime rancher, would that be ok?

To play partial devils advocate, he does have a slight point with what Microsoft were trying to pull with their 'Store' and UWP, though that predictibly crashed and burned if Halo coming to Steam is any indication.
Doesn't at all excuse the anti consumerism bullshit with buying off devs, also
>Steam offering Valve games
>Epic Games offering games from many publishers
Trying to rewrite the narrative like a retard completely in the face of blatant hard fact there aren't we?

>steam offering valve games
lmao

Based and infinite

>>Epic Games offering games from many publishers
Trying to rewrite the narrative like a retard completely in the face of blatant hard fact there aren't we?

Sounds to me like a little bit of that ulterior motive is slipping through. He probably envisions a future where that's the situation like when he recently said steam had to be "displaced"

I don't mind competition but the way Epic has gone about it is all wrong.

>epic games can't offer epic games games because they dropped them all in favor of fortnite

If Steam will ever go down, we are going to see so much hate against Epic

Only people who have things to hide are afraid.

If you don't have anything to hide, you don't need to be worried.

I'm afraid they'll find I have a friend with the username peenusweenus and I have 248 hours in recettear...

What do I do bros?

The issue is never having anything to hide.
The issue is having your stuff taken and misconstrued as something it isn't, then being blamed for something inane but technically true because "You didn't have anything to hide".

I bet Orwell never fucking saw this coming

reminder that:
>epic paid ubi to remove division 2 from ALL other 3rd party stores eliminating any price competition
ebin shills cannot refute this because its literally okay when ebin nogames store does it

can someone change the reflection of the visor to a wojack with an epic games hat hanging himself?

what epic doing is not competition
>moneyhatting games to become sole supplier for a year
>paying devs like ubi to pull their games from any other store
its taking the ball and going home because they don't know to compete

because those are the only games games being played on steam

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It's like buying the ball with daddy's money.

>most played games

Valve actually replied to someome asking them about the epic launcher snooping around the steam files

>We are looking into what information the Epic launcher collects from Steam.

>The Steam Client locally saves data such as the list of games you own, your friends list and saved login tokens (similar to information stored in web browser cookies). This is private user data, stored on the user's home machine and is not intended to be used by other programs or uploaded to any 3rd party service.

>Interested users can find localconfig.vdf and other Steam configuration files in their Steam Client’s installation directory and open them in a text editor to see what data is contained in these files. They can also view all data related to their Steam account at: help.steampowered.com/en/accountdata.

Source:
bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/epic-promises-to-fix-game-launcher-after-privacy-concerns/

Underrated

Is the light Windows 10 theme as comfy as it looks?

Has anyone filed a GDPR complaint about Epic Games yet?

Hopefully Valve will find something highly irregular and sue Epic for that mad Fortnite money.

People still play Rust?

Yeah, and nobody is playing games on Epic aside from Fortnite. I'd honestly love to see their player charts. Most of the Steam ones are from different devs, it seems like he's projecting his dream future into the comment. Probably asspained they didn't launch their store with Unreal Tournament 2003/4 back in the day.

Nope. I'l just pirate or wait for Steam or console. Thanks for giving my favorite devs free money for not even selling any copies with you though, I'm sure they'll use it to make more games that you won't get in the future when your store shuts down in a year. ;^)

No. And there's no one even using Epic. All of Fortnite's playerbase is on console and mobile. They haven't sold a single game on their store.

>we won't use the option valve gives to 3rd parties to access steam friends list
>instead we will comb through the steam files on your computer
>we're only looking for your steam friends list though
>we do this before you consent but will only send the data after you give us permission
>just trust us bro

Imagine this alternate future:
>Epic gets high on Fornite fumes
>Hey lets open up our launcher to other devs and make that Steam money!
>But how do we get devs to sign on in a way that doesn't piss everyone off?
>I know, lets pay devs to be on the Epic Store
>BUT
>We don't put any restrictions on what the devs do, except they must have their game cheaper on the Epic Store, I mean we're taking a smaller cut anyway.
>$10 or 25% cheaper, whichever comes first so cheaper games aren't price gouged should do it
Was it that hard? No one gets pissed off, there's genuine compatition, and Epic can grow the user base they wanted by offering the same thing for cheaper (even if they don't have everything Steam has), because at the end of the day the price is the only thing that matters.

>mfw valve gave epic the rope they are hanging themselves with.
BASED

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I think the changes to reviews are to pander to the likes of Ubisoft and Bethesda who have been crying about getting negative reviews on their games for years because on a level playing field their games rightfully get shit on and they can't handle it. The new review system will suppress the truth about bad industry practices and buggy launches, which is what the AAA's want.

It just befuddles why they tried to brute-force their way into taking Steam's place as the top online store with these aggressive exclusivity contracts.

Tell me when Steam mines information from your Origin account you fucking mongoloid shill.

back to gamefaqs we go, or just check the discussions, they can't ban you from talking about the game not working.

Do you want another holocaust or something? 10$/25% oy vey.

Kek

Totally
It's like going back to windows 2k

That is not the Chinese way and is why it is so obvious that Tencent are calling all the shots. This is how they do business there, trying to whip their tiny dicks around and prove who has the most millimeters to decide who gets to be dominant. Doesn't really work that way in countries with discerning consumers and actual human rights though. The Chinese don't understand real business practices, they just think that whoever yells the loudest and tries to force themselves on people the hardest will win instead of actually trying to be a real competitor. This is why they have already lost.

wow, nobody?

>Epic can grow the user base they wanted by offering the same thing for cheaper
Except I pay more for Metro Exodus than on XBox

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No wonder they try to crack down so hard on personal liberties and basic human rights like free speech and individual thought.

Are you really unable to discern a hypothetical scenario from reality? Or do you just suck at reading?

That's nice. I'm using LTSC but I might downgrade to regular Enterprise eventually if the updates start getting good. I just hope all the programs I use that now have white icons because everyone has a dark taskbar make an option to change them or something.

That's the beauty of it, the devs get paid off all/most of the difference as Epics making mad bank with Fortnite anyway, Epic gets the competitive advantage, and they get what they want with mostly ethical practises instead of ham fisting it like they are now.
But then you're playing on a console.

Both

It's the only thing I can compare to.

My only gripe so far is the OneDrive icon
It's been reported a thousand times and still they don't fix it
I'm on skip ahead. It works pretty well, 2bh

Crap, now we're gonna a cirno in a tux

Steam isn't scared of ep-

steamcommunity.com/games/593110/announcements/detail/1808664240333155775

>Some time ago we made some changes to how we presented the User Reviews for games, and their resulting Review Score. We talked about those changes in this blog post. As we describe in that post, we want to ensure that players who've played a game can voice their opinions about why other people should or shouldn't buy the game, and that our summary of those opinions into a single Review Score should represent the likelihood that a future purchaser will be happy with their purchase.

>Since that post, we've continued to listen to feedback from both players and developers. It's clear to us that players value reviews highly, and want us to ensure they're accurate and trustworthy. Developers understand that they're valuable to players, but want to feel like they're being treated fairly. We've also spent a bunch of time building analysis tools to help us better understand what's happening in the reviews across all titles on Steam. With that feedback and data in hand, we think we're ready to make another change.

Reminder Steam niggers deserve this

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Artifact is still at mostly negative(20%), what now?

You think when egs gets shut down for being highly illegal spyware the exclusivity contracts are voided, or are those devs just fucked?
I'm not sure which would be funnier, honestly.

i hope their payments are distributed over time, so they just get fucked out of their blood money in that case.

Enjoy your vacation.

>make a sudden highly controversial and antagonizing move
>taunt people into believing he's a real jerk
>people rally up and fight against the guy
>actually exposes the actual real threat
is he our Bian Zoldark?

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>gives developers a better deal
Wtf does that even mean?
The money goes to the publisher first, they take the bigger cut and then to the devs. Or are they using indie devs as all devs? Cause that's fucked.

>The money goes to the publisher first

What if it's self published you stupid nig?

The only one you could argue that the devs didn't get the money from was Metro Exodus, every other indie like Satisfactory, Phoenix Point, etc is getting the money

Getting the indie devs on your side means you get all their retarded game journo friends on your side, too.

Retard

Thank you President Xi!
I really appreciate all the free games!

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>Epic blatantly breaking GDPR
>Tim Sweeney and their own VP of engineering outright admit to it

What are these morons thinking?

>>Mighty Number 9, a spiritual successor to Mega Man, made by its creator
but it wasnt
they lied in the kickstarter

based, and so did I. It was a shit game, thank god I didn't spend any money on a game with no final boss and who spends 2/3 of the time being a shitty bog-standard sandbox faffing game