Hey tommorow we get to hear about new sonic games

Sonic Movie news
Team Sonic Racing news
New Cartoon Announcement maybe

Thats about all i am expecting.

And? We don't know what they're working on.

>What do you expect?
Disappointment and contempt for Sonic Team/Sega. The usual.

When was the last time a tie in movie game was made that wasn't just a f2p mobile game?

The Mummy Demastered

New TSR 'features and storymode' trailer
First Sonic movie trailer (wouldn't be surprised if they didn't drop it though)
Merch merch merch and Mania shilling
Some disappointing teaser at the end.

I'm ready for Mania 2.

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Lego Movie 2 just came out this month.

Taxman and Stealth work with SEGA. Taxman has done so for 7 years already.
I guess Dimps was always in house Sonic Team in order to make the Advance series now.

I thought the Wii era killed off this shit for being the worse shovelware of all time.

Ratchet and Clank

TSR was revealed at SXSW

So was Mania Adventures.

I'll be excited but will have low expectations for a new 3D game
if its a new game made by the Mania team I will be ecstatic
if its a remake then I will be slightly disappointed but will be happy

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Is it time for the real Love Live and Sonic crossover?

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This. SEGA doesn't even use E3 for anything anymore, so expecting anything less than anything new is dumb. It might not being something good, but something new should happen.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Sonic Heroes 2. I live in Austin so at least I get to be disappointed in person.

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Im not excited at all for a racing game
I just want a fun platformer
Im already convinced the movie is shit just gimme good vidya

I'm playing Forces and it's damn good, you fucks are brainwashed by bad reviews if you think it's a bad game.

Sonic heroes was complete shit, but it had a lot of potential
There is actually a great game buried in SH, they just needed to take away Iframes on enemies and smooth out the mechanics

Post TSR pipe dreams
>Each zone corresponds to a Chaos Emerald
>Mirror mode versions correspond to the Sol Emeralds
>Sonic Says loading screens like the first All Stars Racing had
>Stickers from Transformed are now Emblems you can collect instead
>Jukebox for music with unlockable songs that you can play on stages
>Some customization parts reference various games in the series with some characters having ones taken from the previous two games

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Just give me a good Sonic fighting game and I'll fuck off forever.

That's why I've been wanting a sequel that irons out the kinks and really shines.
>Different levels for different teams
>New enemies
>Team mechanics are enhanced
>New bosses
>Return of Metal Sonic
It could be great but I'm not holding my breath.

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>just gimme good vidya
The racing game will probably be good vidya though, Sumo Digital haven't disappointed yet

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All I want is a new collection with 1-3&k and cd
We have advantaged ports of 1/2/cd thanks to Mr. Whitehead
Just pay mj his money and get the music rights sega aaaaa

It's not like is irredeemable shit, mediocre and disappointing are the words in most peoples mouths about Forces, and when it comes to Sonic sometimes a mediocre game is worse than a flat out bad one.

He said he didn't want to play an emulated version.

I hope we see more footage of TSR. I really like the idea of a coop racing game where you can't just boost 1 person to win for the whole team.
We just know very little about it so it's hard to see if it's worth getting or not.

>Mania's freelance devs forming their own studio means they won't ever make another Sonic game again
What is the logic here.

It's not "bad"
Forces is as in the middle of the road as a video game can get for me.
It's not Good but it's not Bad either. It's right there perfectly in the middle.

>>Jukebox for music with unlockable songs that you can play on stages
They need to bring back the dancing Amy from Sonic Advance

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>Forces and it's damn good
This has to be bait its just as bad if not worse than 06

All I want is a fucking Puyo Puyo Fever 2 rerelease. It doesn't even have to have online play.

>The Babylon Rogues are a secret unlockable team
>More then 1 car per character
>Nascar mode where it's an oval track with like 10 laps with items
>Chaos mode: No item boxes. Items appear as soon as you use the last one. Infinite supply of randomly selected items with no waiting inbetween.

>its just as bad if not worse than 06
I don't even like Forces, but it's nowhere near that bad. Forces is at least competent on a technical level, it's just incredibly mediocre and isn't worth anyone's time.

I hope they release a demo, it's odd that the game is absent from the eShop when Crash is already there
Maybe they could do that with Cream instead since she isn't playable? That would be nice

Ratchet & Clank literally uses scenes from the movie in the game.

The Mummy Demastered came along the new The Mummy movie but they really don't have anything to do outside of the name.

You have the LEGO games that usually come after some big movie comes out, like LEGO Jurassic Park, LEGO Star Wars and lately LEGO Movie 2.

Good for you, user. I'll just play Unleashed on 100% save file so I can skip the Werehog, Rush, and Generations because it's better at doing what Forces does.

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It'll be some new "free" game on the iOS/Android with pay-to-win cashshop, terrible gameplay, and strong ties to the movie.

>Forces is at least competent on a technical level,
Its not anytime you actually get control of the character you realize they couldn't even program acceleration correctly and the character jerk back and forth. Not to mention half the wispon are unfinished broken garbage. And lets not even get started on the classic sonic physics

A demo would be nice. All stars transformed got one, so I hope this one does too.
And hopefully I can play the demo alone for a week straight like I did transformed.

perople are brainwashed into thinking games are only great or shit
Forces is kinda boring to be honest, short levels, forgettable soundtrack, really easy, Classic Sonic was unnecessary, the "serious" story wasn't exciting, its got a lot against it
oc making was kinda fun tho

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This. 06 being a tech demo isn't even why it was bad, just part of it. And in todays world, a boring game is worse than a entertaining trainwreak like 06. This is why Boom got a worse score than 06 and it was just as broken.

I honestly believe that if the Babylon Rogues weren't added to the game, they'll be DLC. And I too hope everyone has different cars instead of possible repaints/add ons which this pic doesn't really go in depth with.
They've confirmed a standalone mode where you make your own rules, I doubt that's one of them but if so then that's a neat idea

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I have played sonic since the original on sega genesis and I'm still not sure how he's still alive 28 years later. Most of the game are either bad or mediocre.

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Interesting. It kinda looks like his car has a silver vibe to it. Maybe the cars have a mix and match feature? Or each character has an "Out Shell" plate with different stats that can be used on any car.
True, but you gotta admit the games atleast have a certain charm to them. Plus the music alone is usually worth playing the game for.

Me too, I would love to play it all throughout my spring break and the game looks more fun the more footage I watch

Dedicated fans mostly
That's possible, since the cosmetics do change stats. They may have made it where every character can alter their type based on what mod you use, like Transformed did with its car mods, but I guess that would defeat the purpose of each character having a certain type

>I played Sonic 2 once on the genesis and youtube told me most of the games are shit so how is this franchise still alive
There I translated it for everyone.

Did you know Sonic 2 and 3K sold so well the stock market of consoles held by Nintendo nearly was taken away from them thanks to SEGA? Or, how Sonic 2 sold 6 million copies thanks to amazing American adverisement?

Or, how thanks to SA2B, Sonic now got the autistic Pokemon esque fanbase to hype Sonic's existence no matter how bad his game gets purely on name alone? Yeah, it make sense if you were actually a part of Sonic's history instead of playing something and dropping it, then asking "why is this still a thing"?

>Or, how thanks to SA2B, Sonic now got the autistic Pokemon esque fanbase to hype Sonic's existence
Stop revising history that was thanks to the Autistic american cartoons and comics

I wonder if there'll be a cosmetic that makes the car look like the Daytona Hornet with no hood.

The gamers of Sonic didn't care about Sonic's archie comics. I literally never knew about them until Sonic Mega Collection told me they existed.
No, the archie fanbase aren't a part of the same fans that played the games. Most hate none of the stuff from the comics are canon to the Japanese storyline.

Unironic Sonic fans past the age of 16 are a terrible sight to behold. Why do you guys indulge in this crap? Serious shit, don't meme back at me with condescending reaction images. What is your stake in this franchise that Sega has run through the mud repeatedly over and over? Do you hold on to some vague hope that things will turn around one day? That you will recapture the '90s?

This is untrue maybe late archiefags thought this but in the 90s most of the autist the cartoons and comics brought in bought the games. They are the people that to this day unironically defend garbage like Forces and eat up Colors dialogue

I can see that happening, yeah. Personally I hope you can use the older versions of the Speed Star, Land Breaker, and Pink Cabriolet

>Unironic Sonic fans past the age of 16 are a terrible sight to behold.
>Posts on Ninten/v/
You can stop changing your IP, phoneposter.

If Amy doesn't have a version of her sonic r car I'm going to boycott sega

I'd like proof since I'm not in that category, nor was any of my friends that played the Genesis games, or even my older brother. At best I just watched AoSTH and Underground, but those were shit and nothing like the games.

Didn't Sega announce the PC ports of Yakuza 0 and Kiwami at E3?

Dunno how I would prove it to you but if you look around the community you will see countless examples of this.

I agree, also Sonic should get the Cyclone since they gave Tails a car inspired by the one from the Drift games

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YES
If sonic gets the cyclone that's a guaranteed preorder from me

>thinking we're getting any substantial news
The most they'll drop is an actual trailer for the movie and maybe some TSR info.

I doubt they would show that though. They would probably want to keep it a surprise

I believe this isn't the majority, if that's what you're implying. Like, the most talked 3D Sonic game of all time to this day, the one game that was Ninten.drones' first 3D Sonic game on their console, matters less about keeping Sonic's image alive game side wise, about characters like Shadow and Blaze being fan favorites they want represented in the Modern games and cries when they aren't relevant, aren't why Modern games kept going, no, it was the archie fans wanting the games with the least amount of references to their continuity, is keeping Sonic alive?

I mean, the fact nothing you're saying even hints that it could, in fact, be the gameplay ideas of Sonic that people like that keeps him going and instead, is focused on story elements like this matter during the Genesis era, really makes me believe you're insane and really reveals why you had to make a question like , or, people like this making them if this isn't you.

Shut the fuck up, Lizuka.

>Like, the most talked 3D Sonic game of all time to this day, the one game that was Ninten.drones' first 3D Sonic game on their console, matters less about keeping Sonic's image alive game side wise, about characters like Shadow and Blaze being fan favorites they want represented in the Modern games and cries when they aren't relevant, aren't why Modern games kept going, no, it was the archie fans wanting the games with the least amount of references to their continuity, is keeping Sonic alive?
No i'm implying Sonic fans were ready to eat whatever shit Sonic Team(or STI at the time) put out because the autism was already cemented before the turn of the 2000s thanks to the help of the comics, cartoons, and the marketing of Sega in the early to late 90s. To imply that Sa2 is the main reason fans eat shit is just wrong when the autistic cult following start years before its release.

What makes you think we won't get anything worthwhile?

then play Sonic 3 AIR when it comes out or program your own reimplementation of Sonic 3 on modern hardware

Don't be a lazy piece of shit, user

Because the last big games were revealed at Summer of Sonic, SXSW is just a small panel they wouldn't reveal anything big there.

So you're saying Classic era fans wanted shit like ShTH, 06, Secret Rings and Black Knight, instead of doing shit like making millions of Sonic 1 rom hacks and fan games and playing with that instead?

>So you're saying Classic era fans wanted shit like ShTH, 06, Secret Rings and Black Knight,
Literally no one wanted these games it was just Sonic Teams attempt to appeal to the bigger demographic. But yes ""Classic era"" fans wanted and liked Adventure if you were around at the time you would know this.

Who's ready to see King Boom Boo in glorious HD?

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I don't fucking understand what you're even saying at this point. Adventure was the last time Sonic felt less overly serious and was closer to the Genesis tone than every game afterward. I didn't say anything about Adventure, I say SA2 was what marketed Modern Sonic since, because, it's the game that KEEPS getting mentioned in threads all the time here. Not archie, because, that's a different continuity for a different fanbase. And cut the "lok kiddo" shit, I'm likly older than you and I've being playing Sonic since the Genesis, on the Genesis, since the beginning, and never once cared about the comics and didn't even know they existed. Even with the cartoons, that wasn't what keep me interested in Sonic, and by ShTH and 06, I was near done with his shit. If Unleashed didn't impressed me because it was so low budge like the previous games, I wouldn't have stayed a fan. But now looking back, I should have just dropped it and got surprised Sonic Mania happened. But no, this doesn't matter because it was archie fans that let Sonic live. It was fans that make stupid posts like to make it seem like nothing about Modern era Sonic had any value for anyone to warrant why his still around, it was only autism exclusively from classic era, and none of the people that played Modern era games did so for the first time, only 30 year old neets. Yeah, that totally is the truth behind Sonic being relevant.

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Man, rewatching Mania's trailers brings back a lot of great memories. I want those comfy pre-release threads back so bad, bros.

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My dreams are not ready for that

I'll expect less than nothing and still be disappointed.

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I love going back and watching the crowd's reaction to mania's reveal
You can tell for a single second, every sonic fan was happy all at the same time

The crowd reaction to Mania's reveal trailer is still one of my favorite moments of all time. It even rivals the E3 Twilight Princess reveal imo.

People are remarkably obsessed with the prospect of no Mania sequel for some reason.

It's more like people are precautiously pessimistic with this franchise because they've been hurt too many times.

Probably just pessimism, if anything it's good they have their own studio because lately the best Sonic games have been ones outsourced to different devs

>I didn't say anything about Adventure, I say SA2 was what marketed Modern Sonic since, because, it's the game that KEEPS getting mentioned in threads all the time here
When I say Adventure I mean both 1&2 and you implied that Sa2 is what started this shit eating cult behind Sonic that keeps him alive to this day. This is wrong that started in the 90s. I will agree Sa2 is the main game people go to when talking about 3D sonic but is simply because it is the best the series has to offer in 3D nothing more. Most of the ninteniggers I know that started the series with Sa2 have dropped the series almost completely at this point anyway.

Still such a pleasure to watch:

youtube.com/watch?v=VynDxJWZ698

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It's been like that for awhile
>Mania with the fan groups
>Racing games with Sumo
>Gba games/rush with Dimps

>expected
Sonic movie
Team Sonic Racing
>hopes
New 3D game that doesn't suck
Sonic Mania 2, or better, a completely new classic style game

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I always gets goosebumps watching that and it's great

I just want more Mania, be it a sequel or large expansion.

That's one good thing that accidentally came from the casual era (the Wii was king at this but let's not forget the DS or PS2): the sheer oversaturation and rapidly decreasing shelf life (before hitting bargain bins) managed to make even the laziest cashgrab tie-in games fiscally unviable.

Or better better
A new collection with 1-3, cd, and even chaotix (pipe dream but please sega)

They already said Mania Plus was the only expansion they had planned for Mania so a sequel is the only thing on the table.

Can Sonic still use Chaos Control?

I simply don't get anything you say.
>SA2fags dropped the series because the series isn't SA3
>The classic fans that, grew up on the Genesis games, dropped the series in favor of their romhacks and classic sonic fan games and only cared about the series again when SEGA actively started pandering to them ala Sonic 4 (which they bashed to oblivion for, and Sonic Generations)
>The classic era fans that, grew up on the archie content, stayed with Sonic and ate up all of the bad content when none of the games pander to their continuity ever in the series

I guess I'm just being baited. So it's time for me to let go of the bait and let it back into the water.

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If I had to choose 1 thing over anything else,
A new sonic mega collection.
But this time it has 1-3, cd, chaotix, the game gear games, maybe even the ps2/gamecube games (heroes,sa1/sa2)

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how many can remember the dialogue from this scene just by the track alone?
youtube.com/watch?v=biQqQP54KmU

He can, he just doesn't choose too. He did it again in Sonic 06.

Yeah, but he probably only uses it when he has to since he'd prefer running over teleporting.

>The classic fans that, grew up on the Genesis games, dropped the series in favor of their romhacks and classic sonic fan games and only cared about the series again when SEGA actively started pandering to them ala Sonic 4 (which they bashed to oblivion for, and Sonic Generations)
This isn't true dunno why you keep saying it.

How is a collection better in any context?

I want this (well 2 onwards because I already have sega ages 1), plus Mania 2 with everything being completely new. It'd be great if the classic collection could be both the originals and remastered versions, as some of them have already have been remastered.

Mainly just to keep all the games on a current system, and bring some older games to newer systems (heroes has yet to be rereleased at all as far as I know)
Plus why the hell not. It shouldn't cost them too much money for a little side thing,

Based

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Only thing I'm dreading about tomorrow is how rampant the shitposting will be if nothing new for classic gets announced. I'm already expecting /sthg/ to raid us.

Man, when you think about it, Sonic is overpowered even without his super form. He gets stronger every time he fights, he can resort to Chaos Control if he has an emerald on him if things get hairy and he's the fastest thing alive, he's like furry Dante

Meanwhile Shadow gets fucked over by Infinite and goes missing for half of Forces when Sonic was able to bounce right back after six months of torture and kick his ass so hard he cheated and retreated

Silver's ridiculously strong too but got nerfed, not once did he use his powers in that cutscene

Wait I had a greater idea
Ok so it's the whitehead ports right.
But it's sonic/tails/knuckles (in the ports by default)
Then spice it up and toss in mighty/ray

You never cease to surprise me blue hedgehog. I thought that capsule you were in exploded in space.

Sup, Sonic marketing team. Is there anything you feel like leaking? Or are you good shills?

>Meanwhile Shadow gets fucked over by Infinite and goes missing for half of Forces
To be fair, Infinite was being smart and messing with shadow's head. He knows Shadow still isn't completely free from guilt of losing Maria, so he tried to manipulate that and it worked.
I loved the idea of infinite messing with shadow's mind, and imo it was one of the few things forces did pretty well. Omega saying "I am not weak" to slowly fading out gave me chills.

I'm surprised nothing has leaked yet, makes me think we might really get nothing new this weekend.

Or they're preparing something big and are really on the crackdown with leaks.

What? He didn't even bring up Maria he just sent him to various locations and made Omega say those creepy ass lines, he doesn't a thing about Shadow

Yes please.

And then add a playable retro Amy.

>Egyptian themed level.
>Ghosts have giant blackface lips.
How problematic.

Wishful thinking but I hope you are right.

Forces is just a bad comparison to make really if you want consistency. Shadow is the reason Infinite even happens, but for some reason he was pointlessly powerless to the Phantom Ruby's powers when he himself stated "all copies of the Ruby's power is equal to that of the original", yet one hit kills his own clone. It's not really good.

They made him too skinny but i'm glad they are acknowledging his existence at all desu

shadow the hedgehog 2

Point was, he knows Shadow is easily tripped up with loss and tried to do that with Omega "faking" his death and how Rouge looks down on him for believing it.

I'm just glad Adventurekino is coming back in in some form this year desu. youtube.com/watch?v=8tltAglVC3o

Do you guys thing they'll take interest in that sa1 remake they were going on about?

Sonic OVA BD release with soundtrack.

To be fair, Mania didn't get leaked before its announcement back in 2016

Unless they fired every single person who had any involvement with Forces then I have no hope for a 3D Sonic game.

New Mania would be alright though

youtube.com/watch?v=Y5Cn9Ra1kwo

>Unless they fired every single person who had any involvement with Forces then I have no hope for a 3D Sonic game.
Wasn't there something about Sonic Team being dead and moving development to America? We can only pray that was true.

Sonic 3 remake WHEN?
Seriously, I wouldn't even care if Sega had to use the fucking 0
PC soundtrack, knowing the Sonic community there'd be day 1 patches for putting the original music back in anyway

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If they do it's just going to be shit anyway. Good remakes a rare. It takes a lot of care and effort to make something that isn't either straight up worse than the original, or at best redundant. And this is sonic team we're talking about her

What I want
>Mania 2 Trailer, all original zones

What I expect
>Shitty movie trailer
>Shitty Sonic Racing trailer, like anybody gives a fuck
>Soulless Adventure 1 remake featuring boost announced

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why did we have to get this game? I wanted more Riders.
youtube.com/watch?v=1qVfBEUGxeo

Not exactly "moving development" in the sense the old team moved to America. The most part of Sonic Team liquidifed into the Yakuza Team, so who's ever left would have to be new staff from the American side of Sonic since he's no categorized as an American IP now.

This is so true.
>Graphic engine downgrade.
>Game engine downgrade.
>Bad mechanics.
>Tons of bad art.
>Shoddy soundtrack.
>Awful level designs.
>Crappy writing.
Literally every department needs to be flushed and replaced.

Holy crap that looks gorgeous

>The most part of Sonic Team liquidifed into the Yakuza Team, so who's ever left would have to be new staff from the American side of Sonic since he's no categorized as an American IP now.
This gives me hope if only a little

why do you want a remake?
just play the original game

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I discovered this youtube.com/watch?v=KzsdBMg8eOA and now I want a port to modern current gen consoles or a sequel. How come nobody talks about SegaSonic Arcade?

Based Riders was kino youtube.com/watch?v=NfWz4RQNcdc

>Riders

Am I missing something? I remember picking the original up and absolutely hating it. Yet recently I hear it brought up constantly.

Because
A) There's no way to play it on modern consoles without emulation
B) This is probably just me, but I hate the s3&k sonic sprites. They almost make it unplayable to me (Ik that is SUPER picky, but I work weird ok)

But why? Sonic 3 is already a near flawless game. What benefit is there in a remake?
Relevant music though. youtube.com/watch?v=4jTe5sLzU2Y

Because Sonic 3&K is the only classic Sonic game that doesn't have one

Because literally no one played it. It was exclusive to Japan.

Riders is great if you master the controls it has a really steep learning curve

Riders 1 was ok but fun once you learned how it worked
Zero Gravity was my fav, much more fun and easier to pick up (No air gauge either thank god)
never tried free riders and that's probably a good thing

You can't do stuff like widescreen and a consistent 60 fps on the genesis. Not to mention the even further improved controls and physics in Whitehead's engine.

Was only released in Japan and hasn't been ported since

It was a casual filter game and it's only as bad as being the first of its kind. I literally just got it emu'd for Dolphin and it's completely playable and fine. It's just kinda difficult as the game gets to the end point of the story.

The sequels are downgrades and fail to improve the original's flaws. Otherwise Riders 1 was the best kind of racing game for Sonic that is fair for every character and wouldn't end up just being a mainline game if the point was running on foot.

I hear this often, but I don't understand what people's obsession is with playing old games on a modern console. Like, nigga, you played the game probably a thousand times. Do you really care what device you're playing from?

No 16:9 or drop dash.

Yes.
I am not fond of constantly unplugging a console and plugging in an older one just to replay a game. Mainly why I love ports to newer systems.
Plus on the 1000 times comment, I want to play it 1k times, but I've only beat it once. I start s3&k, get to marble garden and turn it off.

Cars 3 and hotel Transylvania 3?

I'd have to assume everyone asking for this isn't people born during the time it was on native hardware you know. I know not everyone here is underaged, but many zoomers want things for their new shiny systems. It's a mental thing.

I'd love a surprise Mania follow-up announcement from Evening Star, but we're probably just gonna be getting more info on Team Sonic Racing and the live action movie.

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I still want a completely new classic Sonic game.
Come on, Mania team brought us sch gems as Studioopolis and Press Garden.
I don't count Mirage Saloon because in the end it's just a revamped Sonic 2 scrapped zone.

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>sonic cartoon announced
>it uses either mohawk or hesse sonic

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Plus the systems it was on was really annoying to get and/or impossible.
Mega collection made you open 3 and knuckles 30 times each to get s3&k
The ps3 genesis collection didn't even let them lock on
The wii vc did allow lockon, but well the wii vc is down.
The only super viable option is the ds port of s3&k, which is alright if you ignore the special stages

>mohawk
please no

The 360 version had lock on.

Just emulate, you autist!
I owned the game on cartridge growing up. But as soon as my brother figured out emulation around 1999, I literally never played it on the original console. There's no need.

I bought the game on the Wii, and it was completely unfulfilling. There was no advantage to owning the game on a then current console. It was just the same game I had been emulating, except now it's emulated on the Wii.

Who fucking cares if you can get it on the switch or whatever. Is there ever a time where you URGENTLY need to play Sonic 3? Dude, just load up an emulator when you get home.

What about Titanic Monarch?

Oh it did?
Well 360 is viable then.
Problem is not everyone has a 360 (thanks red ring)

A Hesse Sonic cartoon would be dope. Like Mania Adventures with more budget.

That one isn't that original to me. It's just another generic final base level.

This is going to sound petty, but I don't like to emulate.
Playing a console game on pc just feels "off" to me and I can never get far in it because of that.

It's also backward compatible on the Bone.

Heads up, Denuvo was finally removed from Sonic Mania earlier this week.

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He probably just forgot.
Or is he one of the heretics that thought it wasn't one of the best designed final zones in Sonic history.

Plus it's very "Sonic" like to have them going around on boards skates and bikes and air sails. God Cream was broken as fuck in those games, little demon would loop you if you played against a skilled player, I'm not even joking

I liked their outfits for the game,too.

I thought that at first too, the first half ain't too bad. It's the second half that shits the bed.

Oh you mean theme wise, my bad.

>he doesnt want the way past cool design

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>No 16:9 or drop dash
Good thing Sonic 3 A.I.R. is doing both those things then.

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How's the progress on that looking?

I did see the update. It does start up slightly faster now which is pretty neat. Looking forward to the more outlandish mods that can be made now.

game wasn't that good but i enjoyed it at the time! and the cutscenes were kino as fuck
So your reasons for a remake is,
>cuz i want one, just so every classic game has a remake!
and
>i want to play the game again but in 60 fps and 16:9 instead of a new game...
you guys bought dark souls remastered right?

>I don't count Mirage Saloon because in the end it's just a revamped Sonic 2 scrapped zone.
It was also a scrapped Sonic CD 2011 zone.

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I loved it as a kid but now I just think its kinda ugly. It would be cool to see I guess but I wouldn't want a entire series with it.

I didn't buy Dark Souls in the first place.

How much does that affect mods?
Are there a lot of mods for mania or was it kinda pushed aside mod-wise?

He has everything up until Sandopolis completed. So it's getting there. Not sure what other features he plans to add though.

Based Sega

What do you. Titanic monarch's theme is great.

The Jap box art for the Genesis games is basically the better version of the redesigned mr.needlemouse anyways.

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A.I.R. seems pretty alright, just S3&K in widescreen and a slighty different physics engine. I don't expect it to be finished any time soon, but I'll give it a go when it's ever finished, like Sonic 2 HD.

I kind of understand that feeling. There is something more permanent about playing on cart, than on PC. But the way I see it, if they're only selling a digital copy, then it's still not the same. You're just being sold a rom. It will sit on your harddrive, probably never between beyond Marble Garden.(I get why you'd quit there, because it's a shit zone), and then a new console will come out, and you'll "need" to buy it again.
Buying roms from 1994, isn't going to make the game any more fun to play. Maybe it's not that fun to play anymore, because you've already played it a lot? Maybe it's time to move on to newers stuff, instead of trying to mine your nostalgia, which always gives diminishing returns.

>"Hey, hold on a minute, guys hate girls who rush them,Jet."
>"Rush?"
>"I'm the fastest in the universe and today, I'm gonna prove it!"
>Sonic smiles

People like this?

This is peak Sonic design.

There's a lot of Mania mods, but I don't know if there's going to be needed changes now that denuvo isn't present anymore to get past it for the mods to work.

There's more direct access to the exe file now, so more can be done aside from just texture/sprite swapping and color changing.

>I don't expect it to be finished any time soon
BOI

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>How much does that affect mods?
Quite a bit, should be a ton easier to mess with it now.

>Are there a lot of mods for mania or was it kinda pushed aside mod-wise?
There was a ton of shit made, like new characters, sprite swaps, zone recreation attempts. The most technically impressive shit that people could pull off earlier was new moves for characters. Though stuff like new level gimmicks, enemies and bosses was impossible.

I'm sure Whitehead feels good with mirage saloon since he's been trying to get it in since the cd and sonic 2 remakes

Based Sumo bringing back that pose in TSR

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Fucking Japan, alway keeping the good shit for themselves. Fuckers need another nuke to remind them who the top dog is around here.

They do. Every mod needs to be remade.

>Sonic movie trailer
>Tangle/Whisper confirmed lesbos
>TSR footage
>maybe a new game

That's all I'm predicting.

>Every mod needs to be remade
Fuck this was already annoying when Plus came out, now it's happening again.

I'm late to sonic news so I'm sorry if this is stupid but,
What is Sonic A.I.R?
I assume it's like Sonic 3 complete but I could be wrong.

Oh damn.

It's just widescreen S3&K with a couple extra features

Why haven't they released this key art of Sonic and Knuckles as a stand alone image like they did with Tails? This Sonic art is the most kino thing I've ever seen.

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At this point im hoping for a themesong that can rival SATAMs themesong
youtube.com/watch?v=7R2vFDIBToI

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Well, at least now it would be easier than ever to get back into it. I guess I'll start getting into the modding scene myself once the newest modloader is available.

>But the way I see it, if they're only selling a digital copy, then it's still not the same. You're just being sold a rom
True, but maybe it has to do with the fact that I bought the new one. I ""own"" it, more then taking it from some sketchy website for free. Plus I like to support stuff so.

S3C with widescreen pretty much

It's a lot like Sonic 3 Complete, in that it's an enhanced version of Sonic 3 and Knuckles. It works off your steam version of S3K though probably to avoid legal issues since it's not a romhack. But it's going to make it widescreen and have the drop dash implemented and basically just try to be the definitive way to play 3K like how the Taxman remasters are for 1, 2, and CD.

Main Memory or whatever his name was already released a new version of the mod loader post Denuvo removal.

It's a fucking trackball game
You can get it working in emulator though, but good luck with that

Says it's gonna be done this april.

Add Amy
Add Honey
Make Bean,Bark and Fang actual antagonists
Have the Battle Bird Armada as antagonists
Have Eggman as well

Call it mania triple trouble or something with all new levels

Never forget the pendering.

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The japanese Sonic X opening was pretty great desu .
youtube.com/watch?v=fk2F_iPpJsU

Pure kino. Thanks, is there a link to the newest version?

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You ok, user?

fucking forget sonic just give me puyo
i hate that puyo tetris got me into this series and i immediately find out all the good games in the series are old as fuck and never got a rerelease

They also put it on sale on Steam for cheap as fuck.
I bought it out of principle to support the removing the sole reason I did not buy it on PC, thank fuck now I can enjoy all the impending Mania Mods.

Currently playing Sonic Mania Plus on Switch though, using the M30 controller I recently got. Feels right.

Wait what? You can't just use a 3&K rom? That's nuts.

Wait did they really lose it in a fire?
I always imagined they lost just because the court sided with Ken because they were his characters.

Yeah, everyone with a brain knows Sonic is only good with the old games from the 90s don't listen to any fool who says the modern age has some good games, it just isn't true

gamebanana.com/tools/6273

Are you 60 years old? You're afraid to of rom sites? Do you think these games give your computer viruses? Also, how long do you need to support a game? The original devs all left the company anyway. Only Sega the corporation gets that money. If you want to support things, then see out the original creators, and divide your $4.99 among them. I'm sure they'll be happy to get their knickle.

Yup, they lost it in a fire. And rather than make Ken and everyone sign new contracts they just used the photo copies like idiots

Yes

>i played sonic once and my favorite youtuber told me the series is shit so im inclined to agree instead of forming my own opinion.

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Thanks user. See ya at the SHC.

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Archie why.
We lost the best character all because you didn't want to make new documents
Scourge is stuck in penders hell because of you

WE ALL DANCED IN FIRE

GO SUPER SONIC
WAY PAST THE LIMIT
youtube.com/watch?v=vYjfXB8I9Gs

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Dammit, what's the point in playing Mania now if my 50+ mods that fix every little autistic nitpick I had don't work!?

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You're welcome, buddy. Hopefully this year's hacking contest won't be total shit like last year. Didn't even bother watching SomecallmeJohnny's live streams of the hacks unlike all the previous years.

You get to play how it was intended to be played
Also
>50+ mods
What how many mods can you have active on a classic sonic game? I always thought the limit was 1

Better get to updating them.

>Mods which edit the GameConfig.bin file will not work unless they are updated. Said file contains the common palette data for the entire game, including the playable characters, so it's very commonly edited.

//forums.sonicretro.org/index.php?showtopic=37893&view=findpost&p=939471

I think the only game I tried from last year was megaman x in sonic 2 (big no)
Maybe sonic 2 hd? I can't remember if that was last year or the year before. Either way, that game was pretty neat.

Was it that bad? I always thought the low point was 2016's contest.

I already played how it was intended on launch day of both vanilla and Plus. Give me my belt buckles on Sonic's sprites dammit.

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>Give me my belt buckles on Sonic's sprites dammit.
Based

Just boring if I remember correctly.

>Maybe sonic 2 hd?
That was from SAGE, separate thing from the hacking contest. But since we're on the subject of SAGE I'd like to receomend the demo for Kyle & Lucy Wonderworld, great little Sonic inspired platformer from the guy who made Sonic Zero Remastered and with music by Woofle from Freedom Planet fame.

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I expect nothing but a trailer for TRS and the movie. We aren't getting Mania 2 or Adventure 3. This series is cucked beyond measurement.

You will go buckle-less and you will like it

What's this screenshot from? I don't remember that stage from the SAGE demo.

No idea what Sonic Zero Remastered is but sure sounds like fun
I love me some good sonic/2d/cartoon platformers

From the dev's twitter.

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This, the only modern sonic games I can stand are unleashed day. I can't even play shadow or adventure for nostalgia because of how fucking bad they are

>No idea what Sonic Zero Remastered is
Sadly unfinished but quality classic style fan game.

youtube.com/watch?v=OdOKUxo3Ces

Whoops

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Sonic was never good

Sonic is weird, he's shit and his games are some of the worse out there but apparently are memorable enough that people look back on them with scorn and a little bit of positivity?

Mighty is too powerful for the laws of physics to contain

>454621321
>Not even a new IP
Still trying?

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The one mistake with current classic Sonic is that he's too desaturated, like in Sonic 1. The deep blue classic Sonic from S3&K and Sonic R is by far the best design he's ever had.

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You know sonic fags, always gotta judge the series based on cherrypicked moments.

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Beautiful lineup

Except it isn't
0/10 it's missing mystic cave

just pay the original cartridge on your genesis. you know, the one you got for christmas when it was new. you do have that... don't you?

I just want the chao garden to come back.

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twitter.com/sonic_hedgehog/status/1106665632353914880
More Mania hype
Either this is a good thing or nothing at all...

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BEEN SPENDING MOST OUR LIVES...

All this Mania shilling so long after Plus HAS to be leading into an announcement.

It'd be nice, but idk how true it'd be.
If there was a mania 2, do yall think mighty/ray would return?

RUNNING AROUND AT THE SPEED OF SOUND

New Mrania game? So soon after the first one? Not a chance. Sprite based games take an assload of time to make guys.

We're only expecting an announcement not a release here, m8.

Not sure if they will but I would like them to.

If you're constantly chasing what was, you'll never enjoy what is, user.

But yeah, I hope we get the movie trailer with Coolio. Just to experience how bad it is.

You do know it took only like ~2 years to make Mania right? And, even if Mania 2 was using new sprites, you do realize it's been nearly 3 years since the release of Mania right?

>Nothing completely new has ever been announced at SXSW.
You gotta put more effort into the shitposting, friend.

>Sonic 3 A.I.R is doing the drop dash
Fucking gross.
Why are zoomers so allergic to Classic Sonic games that don't have the drop dash? 16:9 I understand, it's nice to both have the game fit on modern displays and be able to see more of the screen, but the drop dash is completely unnecessary.

>drop dash is suddenly zoomer-shit now
jesus christ, what isn't anymore?

There has been no indication of any new games in development. There probably won't be any game announcements. I doubt SEGA will be the ones to show the movie trailer either.

My guess is we'll see TSR DLC and they'll announce a new set of Sonic cartoons.

>talking shit about the Drop Dash
Faggot.

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>not just letting sonic use all of his powers
tap for instashield
hold for dropdash
up B for peelout

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Just don't use it sperg. Stop chimping out over a feature like a nig.

Anyone else ever only use Drop Dash by accident?

What time is the SXSW panel being streamed at?

1pm EST I believe.

I constantly use it intentionally, you incompetent, ugly faggot.

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It's unnecessary to back-port that into Sonic 3.
Reminds me of KingK's Sonic 1-3 retrospective videos where he constantly sperged out about how "OH EM GEE OLD SANIC GAMES DONT HAVE THE DROP DASH, LITERALLY UNPLAYABLE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE".

At that point might as well add the boost and homing attack too to satisfy you zoomer faggots.

That's my use of it half the time too.
It'd be even dumber in Sonic 3 because you have the insta-shield in that, so your accidental use of the drop dash would definitely increase. Imagine drop dashing yourself be accident on the first boss of the game.

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Kill yourself you piece of fucking shit. Forces is below subpar garbage, and retards like you are the reason Basednic Team never learns and continues to release piping hot garbage.

Asshole.

Go figure.

Why is everyone so hostile to him?
Sure forces may not be that good but he's having fun let him do his thing.

I hope you realize I've played Sonic 3 plenty of times without it, you can't just call everyone who disagrees with you a Zoomer.

Sega needs to learn that Forces was a mistake and we need to give them shit about it until they apologize and retcon it out of existence.

>brainlet talks shit about something he doesn't even know how to use properly
Figures, you're no better than those retards that cry over running into enemies because they blindly held right and expected to win.

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Wtf does technical level even mean.

Means it doesn't crash or glitch.

Even though it does.

Spreading bullshit about a God awful game while being hostile himself, you retard.

>You do know it took only like ~2 years to make Mania right?
I think it was Stealth or Taxman who said Mania took only a little over a year of development, which makes sense considering it's a bit rushed in a few areas (e.g. Hydrocity, Titanic Monarch, and the Super Sonic boss).

Well he can do his thing by pirating which I hope he did. Theres no harm in that. But ST doesnt deserve half a dime out of a fags asshole for the pile of shit they "spent five years" on. It fucking sucks and they haven't gotten enough shit for it.

Want a medal?

Considering you're whining hard about "muhhh 16:9 or literally unplayable" i'd say you sound exactly like one of the faggots who cry constantly about running into enemies.

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Pictured the only good sonic characters on the good guy side. Prove me fucking wrong, I dare you.

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I guess I just don't see what's bothering you so much about simply wanting advancements in hardware

>Infinite is banned

Well, halfway there.

>Amy
>good

Indeed it does. So how is it anymore functional than 06? Because it's not. Forces is the dirt beneath the mud pool that is 06.

This trailer was so fucking good.

>simply wanting advancements in hardware
Adding the drop dash isn't an advancement in hardware, it's an unnecessary feature change.
Again, you might as well add the homing attack and boost because "I-i-it's in the newer games!!!".

Eh, at least 06 doesn't have canon bestiality.

If 06 is a mud puddle, Forces is the dried mud around the edge.

Er, Forces doesn't have.

Yeah.

>Considering you're whining hard about "muhhh 16:9 or literally unplayable"
Where? All I did was call you retarded for shitting on an objectively good move.

I was talking more about 16:9, but also, the drop dash doesn't just allow you to effortlessly fling yourself to the end of the level like the boost does, infact I found Mania to be a lot more boring with the homing attack and boost mod someone made. I just like the drop dash cause it's a good way to keep a flow going without being obscene like a boost would be

She's the useless chick so nobody accuses the series of sexism or homosexuality, she's doing her job. Next.

How the fuck would you accidentally use the Drop Dash? It requires the button to be held down while the insta-shield is just a tap. Are you so retarded that you can't take your finger off the button after pressing it?

>I just like the drop dash cause it allows me to just spam it to go fast
Learn to play better and you won't need the drop dash, or the homing attack, or the boost.

Yeah but atleast 06 controls consistently. Say what you will about the overly precise controls in 06 but i'll take that anyday over the jerky inconsistent garbage of Forces. Not to mention 06 is fully original with a few interesting level themes.

Again, I've played Sonic 1, 2, CD and 3&K in my sleep before Mania was even conceived. You're just being an elitist about an optional move in a fanmade remake of Sonic 3. But fine, if it really triggers you that much, I won't use it.

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It's not you using it that's annoying, it's the fact that it's going to be in at all.

>Hold the a button just slightly too long
>drop dash your ass off a cliff
>die
Useless feature, has no place in the classics, keep it to Mania, zoomers.

Drop dashes require letting go of the jump button briefly whilst in the air though.

And if it really fucking bothers him that much even in Mania, turn on the Peel out or Insta-Shield I guess.

git gud, retard

I've literally never once accidentally done a drop dash when I played with Max Control in Mania Plus.

That's what I should be saying to you zoomer retards who need the drop dash to go fast.

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I liked it at first but the more I played it the more started to hate it. By the time I was done I realized what a shitty game it was.

And yet multiple in this thread have.
Your opinion is invalid.

I keep forgetting mania has the peelout/insta.
Does the insta-shield break the mania bosses like it does s3&k?

>multiple
Literally just you. Luckily everyone agrees that the Drop Dash is great, so your autistic opinion doesn't matter. Keep crying.

>pre-sxsw comfy thread
>drop dash elitist shows up to try and ruin it
next thing you're gonna tell me super sonic is zoomer shit too. Everything we don't like is for zoomers.

Sonic is zoomer shit he was never good, now lets discuss true boomer kino Alex Kidd

I'm sure we'll have a comfy mid-sxsw thread tomorrow
I hope

Alex Kidd more like Alex Midd-tier game.
Let's talk about the REAL kino game

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>we didn't add Ristar because his ass didn't look good
Fuck Sumo.

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Wait a minute, how come the drop dash is for "zoomers" but the spindash isn't?

Eh, as a purist I don't really want it there either, makes it feel more fangamey. I just want pure Sonic 3 in widescreen with maybe some extra music options and different button super transformation.
I just didn't complain about it because I'm assuming you're gonna be able to turn it off.
What's really gonna bug me is I just know people are gonna claim having drop dash is objectively superior even though the levels weren't designed with it in mind and will likely change how the game flows but whatever people are entitled to their dumb opinions.

TSR is just a sequel to transformed and Ristar ends up being the main villain in order to get revenge

"Everything I don't like is for Zoomers"

Altered Beast man. I am still mad that the PS2 game never came over here.
youtube.com/watch?v=UxOBZoXTvYM

>He doesn't own a genesis

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How much do they run for these days? My model 2 died years ago and I wanna start collecting for it.

I mean, there isn't much competition, but yeah, it's a very good zone.

google.com/
duckduckgo.com/
ask.com/
bing.com/

HD version

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Put the bat down, it's going to be alright

kek fuck off autist just wanted to know what a good price for one was and what I should look for, figured someone in this thread would know.

OLD GOOD NEW BAD

its not my fault your to much of a retard to use a search engine
>kek
go back

Why can't the drop dash be bound to like a second button for you people who keep complaining about it? There's more than 1 button on a fucking controller. P.S they should bring back the insta shield I love that mechanic

Of course, you can't get more kino than Kino Chadmeleon.

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>its not my fault your to much of a retard to use a search engine
Based retard not understanding the point
>go back
Nice projection

>Luckily everyone agrees that the Drop Dash is great,
Everyone except the people that don't.
kys zoomer.

>even though the levels weren't designed with it in mind
What the fuck are you talking about? The Drop Dash is literally just a mini Spin Dash, so it still fits in perfectly.

What was your point then?

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From a quick ebay check, they seem to run from about $35 to $50-ish. Varying models with a controller.

>they should bring back the insta shield
It's been in Mania since day one, same for the Super Peelout.

>Everyone except the people that don't.
And that's only you, keep crying literal retard, you're irrelevant.

Pretty sure he'll go away faster if we stop replying.

The point was there are various different models and prices for genesis including controllers and shit. Considering this is a Sonic thread its easy to assume someone with a decent amount of knowledge on what is good to get should be here. Sorry it caused you to seethe though

Yeah, but I wish it was in the saved game playthrough. Don't like doing no save mode.

The drop-dash isn't for zoomers, it's the back-porting of it into classic Sonic games that is peak-zoomer.
Like I said before, you might as well add the homing attack and boost to the classic games too.

>The flaming shield is just a mini-homing attack, so a homing attack fits in perfectly.

>And that's only you
Considering i'm seeing multiple non (you) people who don't like the drop-dash either, I think you're wrong.
Keep crying zoomie.

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your post changes nothing. you could have just looked that shit up but your so much of a gibbering retard that you need to be spoonfed

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Oh, I guess you haven't played since the 1.04 update, you can turn on no save features on save files now.

The Drop Dash is literally just a weak spin dash that you activate in midair
If you hate the ability to gain instant speed that much just go play Sonic 1

OOH you're quite behind. Patch notes in this image.

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They literally added it to Sonic 1, along with spin dash as usual.
Of course you can turn it off

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Since when did the flame shield home into enemies, retard-kun?

Wow, you're still here, Plus info user? Hot damn.
My closest friend is literally a 36 year old boomer who's been playing Sonic since the early 90s and he appreciates the drop dash too, the other guy is just being an asshole.

This ain't the Taxman remake but it was still pretty based for M2 to do that.

Yeah sorry we should just shitpost about the drop dash and remasters for a few more hours

Thanks

Since when did the spindash allow you to instantly gain speed on landing?

>New Cartoon Announcement maybe
I just want Sonic Boom season 3, is that too much to ask?

Because Sonic Boom was so great, right

I never left, m8. Just didn't have a need to post the info graphs after the game was out.

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I wish they'd bring the Taxman remakes to Switch, like seriously.

>My closest friend is literally a 36 year old boomer who's been playing Sonic since the early 90s and he appreciates the drop dash too
I'll take "things that don't exist" for 500, Alex.

Ahem...
Tidal Tempest US > JP
Wacky Workbench US > JP
Stardust Speedway US > JP
Metallic Madness US > JP
Sonic Boom > You Can Do Anything
Sonic Boom (Credits) > Cosmic Eternity

I would rather discuss games instead off spoon-feeding casuals

Answer the question, brainlet.

>discuss
kek

I didn't know you had the power to make my friends cease to exist

Or literally any other platform besides fucking mobile. What the fuck is Sega's problem?

nice argument

If you think what has been happening in this thread for the past hour is discussion then you are truly delusional

It's too OP, Sonic 3's already a little too easy for my liking, Mania moreso.
The spindash is balanced by having to completely stop to use it.

You mean stop for half a second and mash all 3 buttons to fully charge it in like a second?
I don't know, guess that's just me

Drop dash lets you climb steep slopes
You're not intended to do that in 3

Should she be upgraded to playable character?

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You first.

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No you.

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I'm ready for depression and disappointment, as every sonic fan should be.

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>as every sonic fan should be.
I'm happy about Mania and know we'll get more like it. Fuck modern Sonic and fuck Sonic Team.

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>not posting the version with half of Unleashed

The Werehog isn't bad enough to be with the other trash on that table. Even if it is pretty boring.

How come Chaotix never gets rereleased?

Expectations: TSR and movie news
Hopes: Mania 2 by Evening Star? I don't know why people seem to think that they can't make Sonic games anymore just because they have their own studio now, Sega's outsourced 2D games to other companies before

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cause it sucks

It's too soon for Evening Star to be making Mania 2.

>I don't know why people seem to think that they can't make Sonic games anymore
Because they're retards. "Christian Whitehead", Head Cannon and Pagodawest Games were studios too, most of them being under one studio only makes them easier to contract for the job.

Didn't Iizuka declare it non-canon a while back?
Besides that... 32X emulation issues? Sega had to use the PC versions of CD and R for Gems Collection and they had trouble emulating SegaSonic due to he controls

Oh I know, I was mainly just wondering why they would be disqualified from making it to begin with

>It's too soon for Evening Star to be making Mania 2.
Based on what? The devs could have been working on it before Evening Star became an official thing.

there is always that one faggot that thinks he is in some kind of high ground for liking a videogame and disliking other.

Its just underage erafaggots please ignore them

Sonic Mania Bounce Only Playthrough

32X emulates fine afaik
I assume they ported PC versions because it was just easier and in CD's case has the better cutscenes. is probably the real reason.

Might need debug mode to give myself a bubble shield at the start of each level but that'd be fun to do.

What makes you say that?

And there's always a moronic faggot like yourself who feels they need to give attention to obvious bait.

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This went from comfy to hostile real quick

>just pretending
doesnt change what i said.
piss off with your retardation, ironic shitposting is still shitposting.

Have a new SRB2 2.2 track(never ever)
youtube.com/watch?v=GNeHlZjpBlo

FUCKING WHEN?

"When it's done."
>tfw SRB2 is older than some of the anons in this thread

>just pretending
The fuck are you talking about.
>ironic shitposting is still shitposting
Yes, and ironic shitposting is only done for easy attention, so stop giving said shitposts attention. It's not that hard.

Holy heck
Was the first one any good?

Everything expected for the event will be complete and total disappointment, and everything you would hope are unrealistic impossible wishes with never-ending duration of them staying as the wishes.

There's no motive to look forward for it, personally.

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>Was the first one any good?
Oh user.
youtube.com/watch?v=DdUcjxdMs98

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...oh

SOUL

SRB1? It's really, really dated, but for a late 90's fangame that was developed by one guy on an engine that didn't even support scrolling, it's good

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Sonic Unleashed is a 11 year old game yet looks better than all but one of the Sonic games released this decade.
Where did everything go so wrong for Sonic?

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That's a weird way to spell Comix Zone

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Budget cuts due to Unleashed's low review scores

>Sonic Unleashed is a 11 year old game yet looks better than all but one of the Sonic games released this decade.
Because Sega obviously started valuing stable performance over graphics. Not a bad decision, honestly.

Watching more of the video, it definitely shows it's age.
But at the same time it kinda has a cutesy charm to it.

t. Never played an actual modern Sonic game

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If that were the case Sonic Generations' high review scores should've saved Sonic.

Sonic Generations runs just as good as Lost World or Forces though.
Sonic Unleashed runs poorly on some levels (Namely jungle Joyride) but that was their first shot with the engine.

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This ^
Sonic Unleashed on ps3 is awful with how often it drops
I wonder if they ever finished the ps3 patch that they never released like they did for the 360

I want another Sega All Stars crossover. If Racing is out, make a fighting game. Or an RPG.

>that font
Soulless

>Sonic Generations runs just as good as Lost World or Forces though
On consoles, Generations runs at 30 fps (iirc) while Forces and Lost World run at 60 fps.

While transformed was really fun, I didn't care much for the other characters when I was younger.
I still prefer racing games like mario kart/sonic to be that one franchise.
Looking at you mario kart & nintendo all stars

I agree. New game please.

>put in actual effort
>get bad scores
>pander to nostalgia
>get good scores
I imagine this is the lesson Sega took from Generations and the sad part is it's not even completely off-base

>Budget cuts due to Unleashed's low review scores
No, there were budget cuts because Unleashed's sales didn't justify its inflated budget. Review scores definitely didn't help, but Sega didn't feel like there was any reason to keep putting large amounts of money into Sonic if it wasn't going to return as much of it like it used to.

>Lizuka

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As good as those titles are, not a single god damned game on the genesis will ever top this one.

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Are there any figures on how well forces sold?

Forces and Lost World were made for consoles that came out after the PS3 and Xbox 360, Unleashed and Generations were made for the PS3 and Xbox 360.

>Make bad game
>Get bad scores
>Make good game
>Get good scores
It's not that hard to make a good Sonic game, Sonic Team is just incompetent.

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>It's not that hard to make a good Sonic game, Sonic Team is just incompetent.
user, most of the people behind Unleashed and Generations left ST years ago

It's kind of a mess. Non-memorable zones that are just kind of all over the place, not a lot of flow either. Thankfully it has great music, but all Sonic games do. Doesn't really save it in my eyes.

>Forces and Lost World were made for consoles that came out after the PS3 and Xbox 360, Unleashed and Generations were made for the PS3 and Xbox 360.
Okay? I was just pointing out that Gens, LW, and Forces had different performance rates contrary to what the other user was claiming. The initial point still stands that Sega pushed for better performance over graphics, as Generations looked slightly worse than Unleashed (particularly in its lighting), but had better performance in comparison.

Transformed introduced me to Skies of Arcadia and got me interested enough to finally play NiGHTS which is A-OK in my book

But chaotix has mighty
That alone is a selling point

I don't know why they keep the name. Better to just have a fresh name than build up the importance of this "kids first flash game" mess.

based armadillo bro

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He's just a Sonic clone with a wall jump tho

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You came close, but this is the best Genesis game right here.

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The superior sonic clone*

Close but not close enough

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I just want Sonic Team to move the Sonic series forward and put more time, budget and energy into the next big Sonic game. Nostalgia pandering can only get you so far. Sure Mania was fun. But we need to move on.

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Taxman and Stealth go WAY back

m.youtube.com/watch?v=GNeHlZjpBlo

m.youtube.com/watch?v=VwilpmuZSjc

whoops, missed one link
m.youtube.com/watch?v=6XTbWMcbo7U

Must I remind you foolish plebs?

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God that game used to terrify me when I unlocked it on an old sonic collection.
I wonder why they refuse to rerelease it again?

Forgot to add that there's also the argument that the Wii U wasn't that much stronger than the 360, so Lost World's simpler art direction was a response to the dev team aiming for a consistent 60 fps on consoles, which wouldn't have been possible with a more detailed, Generations-esque aesthetic (I think there's concept art showing desert/ruins assets that had more detail than anything in the final game).

I can't wait for a remake of one of the Adventure games with even less of a budget than Sonic Forces and only a little more fun and with a 60 dollar price tag.

Hyped for the sequel?

youtube.com/watch?v=VX_8MV-cmc4

>I can't wait for a remake of one of the Adventure games
Why do people keep acting like this is something that will actually happen.

>But we need to move on.
To what? More shitty games that miss the point of what makes Sonic good in the first place? That's progress to you?

>even less of a budget than Sonic Forces and only a little more fun and with a 60 dollar price tag.
Thats impossible even if the Adventure remake only included the hub world it would be infinitely more fun than Forces

Adventure remake is never going to happen. Stop with this retardation. They only said that they were interested in making one. But they won't. There is ZERO for them to.

>implying I even want SEGA to butcher one of my favorite games

>There is ZERO for them to
What did he mean by this

Not 2D games. The 3D games that many loved and grew up with. Stop pretending that 3D Sonic doesn't have millions of fans.

They can easily fix 3d games.
Leave out the 2d, or save it only for classic sonic.
No matter what game (unleashed, gens, forces), modern sonic does not work well in 2d at all.

Yes, 3D Sonic has many fans, but so does 2D. Just let the series have both.

>Not 2D games.
Yeah, """progress""".

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More people. More passion. More time. Studios can fix themselves. Or they can atleast try. The amount of people that worked on Forces was so little. And that initself is insulting.

>Stop pretending that 3D Sonic doesn't have millions of fans.
3D Sonic is made up of fans who will buy anything with Sonic's face on it. Why bother catering to them?

That's what I'm saying. 2D games can keep being made by a different studio so that 3D Sonic can be the focus of his own games. No reason for them to mix.

Where did this meme come from. Mania is the exact same game as the classics yet people buy that too.

Oh ok, guess I wasn't seeing it in your post. That makes more sense.

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Because sega is a business, they need all the money they can get.
3d sonic is pretty safe for the reason you just listed, so that's what they're staying with.

The Modern games have sold like shit for the past decade. Those "millions" of fans don't exist.

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This thread is just filled with beautiful stages wow

>3D Sonic is made up of fans who will buy anything with Sonic's face on it. Why bother catering to them?
Are you really so delusional you think there is a big divide between people who buys 3D sonic games and 2D sonic games? Its literally the same people. Sonic doesn't appeal to the mass public anymore its just a small group of autist that continue to support regardless of the gameplay style

>Where did this meme come from
The fact that Sonic has continued to exist despite its frequent dips in quality. Most other franchises would have already been dead by this point.

What point are you trying to make here?

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>3d sonic is pretty safe for the reason you just listed, so that's what they're staying with.
3D Sonic as of the past decade has been mostly 2D, though.

>The falseflaggers finally got people to take the bait
Well it was good while it lasted

Eh, the thread was going to die soon anyway
See you in a few hours

>Are you really so delusional you think there is a big divide between people who buys 3D sonic games and 2D sonic games?
No, that was the point. Sega should just cater to the 2D/classic fans with their projects, and the 3D fans will just continue to buy the games with the hope of the franchise one day returning to the way they use to enjoy it, kinda like they already do now.

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>Its literally the same people.
Nope, skipped Lost World Wii U, every Boom game and Forces, but bought Mania two times because it's actually fucking good. Without Mania I would've given up on the franchise all together, and I've been a big fan of the series since I was a kid.

These are fair scores, honestly. Unleashed is middling/mediocre and Colors is just okay at best.

>skipped Lost World Wii U, every Boom game and Forces
You proved my point everyone skipped those games and they sold like shit.

Know what would be even better?
No gimmicks at all.
Shame it'll never happen.

Level design is fucking abysmal in Forces. Every level feels like it was made in a basic ass editor in 30 minutes. Really fucking boring and short. Also the ocs sucked ass, played like shit and looked hideous

I won't be able to watch SXSW tomorrow but I hope you guys have a good thread even if the announcements are lack luster. See you on the other side bros

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I can't disagree with these, though I'd say Day Sonic > Colours Sonic > Werehog, but Werehog is so bad it drags Unleashed to be an overall worse experience than Colours

See you soon my based and eggpilled friend.

Yes. The Boom brand is dead.

why

The show was actually good

Sadly. The show was fun, the two 3ds game weren't too bad from what I hear.
And will I be crucified by saying I liked the new designs? (Except maybe knuckles)

Unleashed ran like trash, so that's a pretty big reason why they scaled it back and even then Generations was still only 30FPS a few years later. Colors, Lost World, and Forces are held back by Nintendo hardware.

Is it being streamed? I don't remember it being streamed when they announced Mania.

It will be streamed on the SXSW twitch channel.

I'm sure it will, they've streamed the SXSW sonic events for the past 2 years so far. If not, I'm sure TailsChannel will.

I got into Sonic because of Sonic Heroes. Played the old games through ports like SA2B and Mega Collection on GC. Legit loved every game until Sonic Lost World. Was one of those obsessed Sonic fans at the time so anything with Sonic was crazy fun. Sonic Chronicles Dark brotherhood I completed fully. I used to play the shit out of Sonic Riders even. As I grew up I started disliking some of the games because they're no fun. I enjoyed the boost games however. If I tried playing Secret Rings or Black Knight today I wouldn't get far at all. I still haven't played Forces. The low effort put into it turned me off. Mania was good, but since I grew up with 3D Sonic more I feel sad about his state. I don't know why 3D Sonic has been treated this bad. I'll keep on waiting for the ultimate 3D Sonic game.

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No, I disproved your point by telling you that I'm a Sonic fan that's not been putting up with shitty games for a while now, and I'm not changing that. Next 3D Sonic game is guaranteed to be shit (unless by some miracle it's developed by old fans) and I'm not buying or playing it.

I just want a fun 3D Sonic game like Adventure 2.

Last year's sxsw was streamed

good thread, bros. shitposting aside, anyway. Let's do it just as well tomorrow.

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No you proved my point that there is not this grand divide between people that buy 2D games and people that buy 3D games its the same people and if the games are shit no one buys them(lost world, boom, forces) even 06 sold like shit in comparison to the other games in that era.

>If I tried playing Secret Rings or Black Knight today I wouldn't get far at all
But black knight was fun :(

What time?

schedule.sxsw.com/2019/events/PP102317

Good thread bros

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It was decent.
The few funny clips that circulate here don't make it a good show overall, a lot of the stuff there is mostly forgettable.
Also it was only ever on at like 7AM on Saturdays what was even the fucking point?

imo Sonics wasn't different enough to annoy me (though I'm not fond of the sport tape), Amy and Tails weren't different aside from clothes, and Knuckles was jarring but I got used to it

Is that local time?

Tails looks really close to how he looked in the future of the archie universe, so for months I actually believed boom happened after the archie comics
Needless to say I wasn't the sharpest tool in the shed

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I'm afraid I do not know, it doesn't really say anything else. You'll probably have to get up early just incase.

>(lost world, forces)
Those still sold well, because of retards that buy literally anything with Sonic's face on it, which isn't every fan, I'm proof of that alone.

>even 06 sold like shit
It broke a million copies, m8.

It was utter trash.

Does it say 1pm for you too? I'm EST.

Ok story and good music, that's all it's good for

I refuse to believe that

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Yeah

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Did future Tails fugg Mina?
I never followed the comics very closely.

Knight of the Wind and With Me are still my top 2 sonic songs.
Good songs for a *good* game

>Those still sold well,
Lost world sold like shit only around 400k, Forces doesn't have concrete data yet but based on how quick they lowered the price I can only guess it didn't do too good.
>It broke a million copies, m8.
Barely breaking a mil was low for sonic then.
Also you can always expect a bare minimum of sales from parents buying there kids bargain bin Sonic games during the holidays.

I think so? He had 2 children so I'd hope so.
I never followed it much either, but most of my "knowledge" comes from some old sonic comic encyclopedia, so it's probably outdated.

You're already brainwashed by freemasons.

>this thread

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Nice

I know it's the end of the thread, but glad someone said it. To each their own, but keep Modern inventions in 3D styled games, thank you. Homing Attack is literally pointless in a 2D game, and boosting is pointless in a game about momentum. It was already trivializing the spindash in Sonic Advance 2, and ultimately, was the point SEGA forced Sonic being fast via pure running instead of, you know, the FACT HE'S A HEDGEHOG, THAT CURLS INTO A BALL. Sonic 1 explicitly pointed out, rolling = more speed, running = less speed.

Man. We didn't fucking deserve Mania.

Sonic threads are usually pretty comfy desu

>Unleashed ran like trash, so that's a pretty big reason why they scaled it back
It was literally released on an older generation console over a decade ago. technology has improved since then. There is literally no excuse.

This besides the obvious falseflaggers and shitposters Sonic threads are the best on Yea Forums