Soldier truly is the cancer of TF2. He's loud, repetitive, and easy as fuck to play...

Team fortress 2 is the only game I have ever known where, no matter who you play, people are going to give you shit for your main

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>sniper main
>bodyshot another sniper because he's in low heath
>REEEEEEEEEEEE
>mfw every time

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>Main
Here lies the problem

Shits balanced so everyone can bitch

The only people I hate in TF2 are friendlies and cheaters. I couldn't care less about people using so-called crutch weapons, cheap tactics, or whatever else. If you get killed, it's your fault.

>tfw ascended sniper
>taunt after every bodyshot
Never has salt been such a renewable resource

this
>class based game
>only play one class the entire game instead of picking what the team needs at the given moment

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>headshot people
>hurr fuck you
>bodyshot people
>hurr fuck you
>huntsman
>REEEEEEEE

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TF2 is the cancer of gaming

whatever overwatch bab, the game is 12v12 i'll play whatever i want

>I play for my team of randoms
Get a load of this cuck.

I know that this is bait but...
could we acknowledge that TF2 saved gaming?
Without it EVERY shooter would have been turned intoa COD clone in 2008 and today there wouldn't be any creativity in the gerne

post loadouts

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>falling for the obvious bait

good bait topic for a tf2 thread

paying for a fucking virtual texture, yeah, fuck off faggot

>”Nice bodyshot dude”
Thanks

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>not the machina for pissing off everyone
>kills your medic through heavy with one bodyshot

What did you guys think of the first unrestricted 6s games?
twitch.tv/rglgg/v/395144777?sr=a

soldier is fun sometimes, soldier mains deserve to
be fucking crucified though

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what the hell is this

"I got outskilled by a guy playing X class, so X mains are cancer!"

based

WOTS ALL THIS THEN

is that a jojo reference?

>soldier mains deserve to be fucking crucified though
Why?

OP isn't entirely wrong you know, Soldier is fairly easy to pick up and play for anyone. Rockets have splash damage so you don't need precise aiming for most occasions, I assume that's why a lot of people main him.

TF2 is the most played game in my life. I don't mind supporting it that way.

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Having a main is an overwatch thing

gay and sigafoo is retarded

>t.Pyrofag

Swap the Ubercharge rate for the Quick Fix and Kritzkrieg and now they're both balanced

>I assume that's why a lot of people main him.
I'd say it's 50/50 between his ease of use and his versatility.
You can go an entire match never switching off of soldier on any map or gametype and never suffer for it because he can adequately handle any situation or opponent with enough skill.

retard

They have travel time unlike hitscan so it still does require skill against people that know how to position themselves and dodge. People likely main him because he's so well-rounded that you can never really have a surplus of him

I haven’t played the game in years and I still remember how good Upwards is.

>balanced
>ubercharge rate should be faster
Are you a fucking retard

IS THAT A MOTHERFUCKING JOJO REFERENCE

I think you mean the Spy. I stopped playing TF2 a week after the game came out because of that fucking class, and Valve STILL hasn't fixed him over 10 years later. What a joke of a company.

I’ve technically become a Medic main because the majority of teams I’ve joined rarely had medics, even though I’d rather play Scout and Demoman.

So, thinking of getting back into TF2. Is it still alive?

>He unironically has problems with dealing with spies
Holy fuck, you might actually have under 30 IQ. How the fuck can you be this retarded, lmao.

Of course it is, but the updates are few and far between.

>you quit tf2 because of the spy class of all things
Was your brain too retarded to counter him

Go away, Valve employee

based and demo-critpilled

It's Ok to be bad at video games as long as you're aware of the problem.

>use stock or original and decimate the enemy team with splash damage shots
>no one says a word
>use the direct hit and actually make an effort to aim
>decimate the enemy team
>they bitch and whine in chat and call it a crutch

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>Valve employee's communicating

>complaining about the Spy of all classes
How do you even live with yourself.
Spy is so fucking gimped that you have to be an outright retard to lose to him all the fucking time.

>Valve STILL hasn't fixed him over 10 years later.
He's right, they still haven't made him actually good.

>complaining about the worst class in the game
I knew Yea Forums was bad at tf2 but jesus christ

I don't think I've ever seen someone call the direct hit a crutch.
The occasional engineer complains about how fast it destroys buildings, but even that is surprisingly rare.

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We had one in a tf2 thread last month

Soldier has faster movement at the cost of all his health. Rockets hurt mang.

>snipers to mid
>double dh soldiers
>very few scouts
I can already tell these guys aren't going to get far

You have to be pretending. I don't think I saw such an idiotic post since...ever.

Someone got killed by a soldier too many times and went to Yea Forums to rant with virgins

HEAVY UPDATE WHEN

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NEVER

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>there is now an exploit to make spy decloak sound extremely loud
this class just can't get a break

>and there's no prize for second place
>gets the only good item of the update

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How?

What I hate the most is the 5th sniper/spy on my team

>not the 1st sniper/spy

Scout truly is the cancer of TF2. Everything about him is annoying, from his weapons that do OP damage, to how fast he is, and even his voice. He's super easy to play, too. All you have to do is keep running and jumping. And you better do that, otherwise a gentle breeze will kill you. If Valve fixed or got rid of the Scout, TF2 would be a better game.

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get good

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Heavy truly is the cancer of TF2. Everything about him is annoying, from his weapons that do OP damage, to how slow he is, and even his voice. He's super easy to play, too. All you have to do is keep shooting and voice spamming “DOCTOR”. And you better do that, otherwise a Spy will kill you. If Valve fixed or got rid of the Heavy, TF2 would be a better game.

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1st might be good but if he's retard, not a big deal, it's just one dead weight.
5th is always a retard, as is 3rd and 4th

Pyro truly is the cancer of TF2. He's the easiest class to play in the entire game. Run to the enemy and burn them with your OP flamethrower. You don't even need to properly aim. Don't even get me started on the phlog. Free crits for doing your job? GREAT IDEA! If Valve fixed or got rid of the Pyro, TF2 would be a better game.

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wow that is um... yikes haha oof

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>pretending as if pyro isn't equally if not more cancerous

demoman mains are the biggest faggots. they act like literal children.

taxi driver

people still play this shitty game?

spy is LITERALLY the worst class in the game and takes the most skill to play. are you fucking serious? just fucking breath on them and they die instantly. They're so fucking weak.

>t. gets killed by spies, even as pyro

jump back into it, its still the same it was years ago, its allot of fun, i bet you'll have plenty of fun as scout or demo-man, even if you don't believe me and don't think the game is that interesting, the community is always happy to have new players man

it sucks

already sold my items

Engineer truly is the /ourguy/ of TF2. He's quiet, has the best voice, justifying the moments when he does get loud, and is the most difficult class to play. You to worry about building positioning, Spies, Demomen, Direct Hit Soldiers, and Medics all at once. On top of having zero mobility outside of Sentry Jumps, which eat a huge amount of hp, he has the second least amount of unique weapons in the game, limiting his playstyle to either mini-sentry engi or not. If Valve buffed or gave the Engineer a class update, TF2 would be a better game

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items? is that all the fun you got out of the game? trading? get back into casual dummy, that's what's fun about playing tf2 in the first place

game sucks and it always did

all my 2100 hours on my old account were on trade servers, because if you play the game the way its supposed to be played, you're retarded. The core mechanics are horrible.

>and the most difficult class to play

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>... is the most difficult class to play
I play him specifically because he isn't

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Soldier is fine, the problem comes when he has a dedicated ass buddy medic

you first

ok then i truly can't judge you on that because its your opinion, but im quite curious, because tf2's core mechanics are really a masterpiece for me to enjoy, i would want to know what kinda game do you actually enjoy playing and what kinda mechanic does this game have that differentiates it and/or makes it batter then tf2?

fuck off

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alright ._. i just wanted to try playing the games you think would be better then tf2 so that i can give you my thoughts on it

>._.

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cringe and bluepilled

you're honestly not giving me a clear answer here

>._.

BASED
(though i disagree with the tf2 being shit thing)

tf2 is shit.

All games are.

then why are you here? aren't you just being a cynical lil cunt because your faggot boyfriend cheated on you?

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ok

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why don't more people use the battalion's backup? I just played a match on goldrush where we kept denying a red medic his krit pushes thanks to two soldiers cycling their buffs, which let us tank the sentries too. put down the conch for once and try it.

why is the least used rocket launcher the beggars bazooka[/spoiler[

pretty dangerous imo, you would die often if the team chooses and offensive strategy, also, BANNERS STACK??

because
>it's not as flashy as the other banners
>all banners require teamwork to be effective

no map's have surpassed any of the classic maps in terms of fun yet

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>2fort shitter
hang yourself

kill yourself

I use it, but if it wasn't for the extra 20hp I'd probably pick the banner over it.

He also dies instantly if you shoot him with any of the other overpowered weapons in the game that excel in situations the character is designed to reach.

>Dies instantly to stickies should he dare push
>Dies to airburst stickies
>Dies to two grenades
>Dies to his own rocket, reflected
>Dies to a single scout meatshot because he lost 70 health rocketjumping
>Dies to two meatshots because his only actual weapon is the rocket launcher since he took gunboats, and he just used two of them to jump, then missed another
>Dies instantly to a sniper main that clicks on his head

Just learn Soldier and Medic and literally always be useful.

needs 120 more damage than the crutcheror to fill up the rage

>twitchy sniper main on the other team
>blow my horn
>walk straight at him
>-30

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>he plays to have fun

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>hating the best map in the game
Yeah, alright I bet you think Mercenary Park was good.

People main him because there is never a bad map or gamemode for him due to his well-roundedness, and because you can do some crazy high-skill showoff shit without it being a necessity to be useful.

what's an s-tier map

He has gotten two nerfs and nothing but buffs since because he's the most unbelievably worthless class in the game against anyone with a functioning brain cell.

map you like

Mercenary park is shit
2Fort is shit

See me on Product, fag

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what does that have to do with anything? Items are just for looks. the gameplay is still the same it ever was.

I only play koth. Pic rel is the best map in the game, if you disagree you need a pork bun in your hand

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not either of them, but Mercenary Park is unironically kino. It's last point is one of the funnest parts of a map in TF2

It never stopped. Go for it.

TF2 2fort is awful. The original mod's is much, much better.

>boringduct

>Only play Koth and thinks anythin but Harvest is unironic kino
Harvest is the best map, both variants of it capture peak TF2, a bunch of in jokes, a nice setting, good ambiance, nice visuals. Everything looks warm and inviting but also cold and comfy, like A nice autum day, where you just want to hop in a fresh pile of leaves and go inside just as your nose is turning red. As you hear the leaves rustling as you walk home from school in the afternoon.

The halloween variant has much colder, darker and sinister colors. Relying on dark blues and purples to make due, it looks cold and eerie. Like an old abandoned mill of some sort that was lost to time, only revisited when potential buyers are deciding to purchase the property. The ghost is also very nice, adding to the spookiness of the area. But even without the ghost it'd still be a perfect halloween map.

It's the subtly it relies on in both variants from making the day time make you feel warm and safe, but the night time variant making you feel creeped out like you don't belong there, something most halloween maps no longer do anymore because its all, "GHOSTS, PUMPKIN BOMB SPAM, BOSSES, BLOOD PITS, SPELLS XD"

I played 24/7 Harvest for most of 2011, I'm sick to death of it.
Also spawn camping is too easy there

I dont think you actually played it online
grenade spam and even more snipers

He's gotten more nerfs than just two.
Cloak noise was increased at one point for stock, making de cloaking far more risky, ambassador got its penetrating shots removed and given to the faggot that is sniper, and the current awful ambassador change and the dead ringer change im indifferent to. More buffs than nerfs, unless you count all the anti spy tools the other classes now have, then it feels like he's still a bit lackluster

Better then Hellstone, and Brimstone 2 maps that for no fucking reason spam bosses 24/7 and make it impossible in the last point without getting fucked by Monoculus, at least Gravestone was the only fun map of this years scream fortress. The rest had very unique idea's but fell incredibly flat because they relied on shit tier gamemodes like PD that's a bad gamemode

tf2 has so much content

shame you dumb faggots begged for the play now button and competitive

Remove Shotgun from him and he becomes balanced.

sounds like some maggot got gibbed a few too many times
youtu.be/BmfSdYE8Fyc?t=264

I only agree with you because I think exploiting cl_interp is the biggest bullshit in the game, it's basically cheating

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The fuck? Nobody uses shotgun as is.

Have you actually tried it because it's not as broken as you think it is.

>worst class in the game
That's Pyro though.

>only deals decent damage at point blank range
>can be outrun by almost any class in the game
>the classes that can't outrun him hard-counter him anyway (Heavy, Engy) so it doesn't matter
>in theory he's the counter to Soldier and Demo with his airblast, but in practice he doesn't actually counter shit since a good soldier will just aim at your feet and a good demo can just use ricochet shots or Iron Bomber
>his one and only option for dealing damage at a distance is a slow-moving, easily-dodged projectile that has to reload after every single shot

t. Soldierlet

t. waddling fatty

I miss convoy

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>it's not as broken as you think it is
thing is, 90% of players who use cl_interp cheat so they not only have cl_interp set to some ludicrous number, but also auto-backstab

If you're a good soldier, 3 to 4 rockets should be enough to kill anything you need to.

Pyro is the best anti-uber class with airblast and reflecting spam is useful when you have an engie or heavy in tow that prevents enemies from getting close. Spy has NOTHING.

>only deals decent damage at point blank range
Good flare aim outdamages almost everything non-sniper at long range

There's no need for personal insults just because you're bad at games user.

its the only way spy's can win nowadays anyways. Fuck the heavy update, rework the spy already.

>lol nice lucksman
>you must be pretty fucking unlucky tonight then m8

No shit, it's for those times when maybe you dont have the rockets loaded, or they're too close and the splash damage will kill you, etc.

An auto backstabbing spy is still much easier to deal with than a spinbotting sniper

>he thinks I can't aim
I don't use shotgun because they're inferior to gunboats in 90% of situations.

well you're mostly right but you're also severely discounting the shotgun. it's not a sidearm, it should be used just as much as your flamethrower.

>it's for those times when maybe you dont have the rockets loaded
If you get caught without rockets loaded you fucked up and overextended.
>or they're too close and the splash damage will kill you
Check blind corners with your rockets. Not only will this catch anyone coming around but it also dislodges sticky traps.

Ok thanks

Shotgun pyro is so lame, if I wanted to use a shotgun and be a good class I'd play scout.
Give me flare or give me death

Your opinion is just as bad as the sperg in this picture.

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In a purely theoretical scenario, sure. In practice that's never going to happen because flares are slow moving, have an arc, require a two second reload after every shot, and need to hit a target who is already on fire in order to do any damage.

>mfw i dumpster someone after they shit talk me at the beginning of the round
know your place, boy

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I wanna make a map in TF2, anyone got any suggestions on how to start?

And an auto backstabbing spy is much, much less likely to be noticed and votekicked.

You should start by launching Hammer.

you start by realizing hammer is a piece of shit, and that theres only been like 5 maps actually added to the game out of like 40 that were made by 1 person

>play pyro
>kill anyone
>"fucking m1+w" in chat

every time

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I used to do SFM animations, SFM and Hammer are actually garbage tools that are unupdated as fuck and I have trouble believing thats what valve still actually uses. They probably have a way better version they just aren't releasing cause they like watching us suffer

You were loud and ugly, and now you're DEAD, amen!

>crit rocket as soldier
>kills everyone on the point
>FAIR AND BALANCED

every time

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>It's a Dustbowl episode
Spamming pipes for decades.

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>it's a team with a pro soldier/sniper/demomain against your team of literal retards episode

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>Reflect Crocket
>*Screaming in the distance*

Alternatively
>Reflect Kritskreig rockets

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>effortlessly chainstabbing people from 10ft away
it's not subtle

based

>Get a random crit rocket
>Kill enemy
>Taunt
>see this in chat

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Yo not related but anyone got that pic of Astolfo giving birth with a womb and a dick

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>and actually make an effort to aim
>+80% projectile speed
>instakill light classes in close range
>effort

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Yeah I got that one, but your not gonna get it faggot

Yes angry scout user, effort.

actually he's giving birth through his ass but I know what one you're talking about check the /trash/ trap thread

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>implying i'm a nigger scout main
all the direct hit does is make soldier raise his already high damage even further for just slightly changing his muscle memory for directs, with it essentially being hitscan at close range and much easier to hit directs with at medium

I love this weapon so goddamn much

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It takes a lot more effort to score a direct hit than to groundpound, and the direct hit nearly removes the ability to groundpound.

>tfw you get a reflect airshot
SHE'S A GUNSHOT BRIIIIIDE

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Remember all the effort that went into Pyrovision?
Then they made it so Pyrovision items could be seen outside of Pyro vision
Then they made it so Pyro can see Pyrovision items outside of Pyrovision
Then they made the fucking expertly made rainbow flame texture, into just flames that are rainbows.
What the fuck valve, why go through all that effort just to backtrack and change it so drastically

>just wasted $40 on unboxing shit
>didn't even get a single strange
>the only worthwhile thing I got was a cosmetic that's only worth 20 ref
I guess that's a lesson not to unbox, still hurts though.

my eyes

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>he fell for the unboxing meme
Don't

>thinking maining is the same as one-tricking

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I know now, it's fucking ridiculous how you can spend $2.49 only to get a cosmetic that's only worth like $0.20.
I'd love to get an unusual, but even then I could've just took the money and wasted it on some lower-tier unusual if I really wanted one.

As a Spy main, I really do hate Soldier because he directly counters Spy.
However Soldier is not OP per say. He requires a high skill level in order to make him extremely good. He's sort of like Fox in Melee. He's top tier no doubt but in a way it's a respectable top tier because of the skill needed to reach that level of peak performance

You cant nerf skill, user.
You can nerf the nigger box and concheror combo though, fuck that shit

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Only comp Soldiers, and pockets at that, even use it. Everyone else wants gunboats, since no one in pubs has enough brain cells to punish rocket jumping.

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That means the game is balanced.

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>user doesn't turn around
>user doesn't spy check his teammates
>user doesn't complain about sniper being able to do the spy's job 10 times better

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Niggerboxerer needs to go, agreed.

It's the most cancerous pussy combo, bar none

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Why is there a complaint thread for every single class?
>Waaah x killed me
Grow up.

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it's sniper and then spy

The new tropical maps have awful visuals and don't fit in with the original simplistic map aesthetic of tf2.

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Amen to that.... save for that last part.

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Reminder
Why did the party van thread 8 hours ago only get 11 posts before it was vanned

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I wish Degroot Keep got a Halloween themed version

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Why doesn't valve have 3 modes:
casual, which gets the ability to choose your team,
teamscramble to come back for when it starts to get one-sided, and keep crits and weapon spread.
ranked, which would just be casual but with spread turned off and crits removed, autobalance and scramble off, and more emphasis on playing with people of the same rank
competitive, where it's dead like it should be

2_fort_egypt_lite

>Compshitter
>Thinks he has the right to judge anyone's intelligence

>black box
>op
cmon lad, its soldier with -1 rocket and no secondary, easy prey

That's how you know it's good

Truly the Cancer?

Oh you mean Spy and only Spy.

I wouldnt say OP. Just cancerous and promotes bad play. Like the DR.

hour and 10 minutes

The only cancer in TF2 are "friendlies." You should go out you way to target them specifically.

//forward speak voicemenu 2 Battle Cry
alias +forwardspeak "voicemenu 2 1; +forward"
alias -forwardspeak "voicemenu 2 1; -forward"
bind "w" "+forwardspeak"

//backward speak voicemenu 2 Jeers
alias +backwardspeak "voicemenu 2 3; +back"
alias -backwardspeak "voicemenu 2 3; -back"
bind "s" "+backwardspeak"

//left speak voicemenu 2 Cheers
alias +leftspeak "voicemenu 2 2; +moveleft"
alias -leftspeak "voicemenu 2 2; -moveleft"
bind "a" "+leftspeak"

//right speak voicemenu 2 Positive
alias +rightspeak "voicemenu 2 4; +moveright"
alias -rightspeak "voicemenu 2 4; -moveright"
bind "d" "+rightspeak"

//jump speak voicemenu 2 Negative
alias +jumpspeak "voicemenu 2 5; +jump"
alias -jumpspeak "voicemenu 2 5; -jump"
bind "SPACE" "+jumpspeak"

//crouch speak voicemenu 2 Good Job
alias +crouchspeak "voicemenu 2 7; +duck"
alias -crouchspeak "voicemenu 2 7; -duck"
bind "SHIFT" "+crouchspeak"

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the only thing annoying about black box to me is when I play medic and I see some shitter with it, I would rather heal gibus heavy than black box shitter

It seems my superiority has caused problems.

Spy is pretty bad though. I main him, and even I know Sniper does everything Spy does but 10x better and more reliably

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This stupid thing promotes even worse play

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TF2's designed for certain classes to be used more often than others. Soldiers being mained is intended. Snipers and Spies being mained is not.

>Soldiers being mained is intended.
?

this but unironically

>soldier truly is the cancer of tf2
thats not the sniper

It's stupid but I love using it.

No it fucking isn't you dumbass, the developers themselves said that maining a class in Overwatch is a dumbfuck idea

iirc TFC soldier class description was that he is backbone of any team
he is most well rounded character in the game

>classic Scout
his mobility is great but his damage SUCKS

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oh yeah didnt he only have a single shotgun + nailgun back then?

yeah
the single shotgun isn't too bad but most classes have it

shit imagine if tf2 scout had only regular shotty instead of scattergun

>he doesn't initiate a push with his team by firing a charged shot into a crowd, making them all panic

a man of culture

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Wouldn't change much, scatter is only better if you press barrel down somebody's butthole

I don't play comp, I'm just pointing out that the only kind of player who consistently takes the shotgun is only half of the soldiers in the tryhard format.

Against braindead pubs, a concheror is basically a kritzkrieg medic, and the black box effectively gives soldiers 260 health on top of the regen, because nobody is competent enough to kill the soldier.

It also totally removes rocket jumping from the soldier's skillset, since he only has 2 rockets after a single jump, and will NEVER have one left to escape even if he bombs and kills someone.

Black Box + Concheror encourages braindead, groundbound spamming and removes everything fun and skill-expressive from Soldier. It's not fun for good players to play, and it's not fun to play against when compared to someone with rocket jumps. He either spams you to death, walks slowly at you and shoots your feet, or gets insta-killed by something because he's bad.

He made up for it with grenade spam.

scout had caltrops and conc nades tho, he didnt have any offensive ones like everyone else
>play heavy
>see engie
>see emp nade
>see respawn notification
fucking mad shit back then