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The perfect Smash roster
Aiden Cruz
Henry Johnson
>no Rayman
Crash is based though
Ayden Rogers
This is objectively the best roster, only grinchies, contrarians & westies will disagree
Hunter Parker
I dont get the obsession with grovyle and type null on these fan rosters
Hunter Bennett
Fuck off weeb
Matthew Hall
>Silvally
Okay, I'll take the bait.
How do you incorporate his gimmick into gameplay? His entire concept is Arceus-lite style type changing.
Leo Brooks
>cutfags
Andrew Clark
>454538546
> BBBUT WEEB
> Crying about Japanese shit in a japanese made game, on a Japanese anime website no less
Go back to pleddit tranny, even Resetera cucks don't seeth about Japanese shit
Nathan Cook
>No Reimu
Adam Robinson
Verifiable source on Smash Leaks
Gabriel Murphy
Not Nintendo, all of these franchises have Nintendo history or originated from Arcades like Pac-Man & Street Fighter did
David Bailey
What did Simon smell to make his face like that?
Kayden Roberts
>Sylux
The man is irrelevant and absolutely not deserving of a spot until Prime 4 actually releases.
>Grovyle
Muh patterns. People want a solo grass starter because we had/have Charizard (now Incineroar) and Greninja as solo Fire and Water starters. Admittedly Grovyle is probably the most reasonable pick for that besides Decidueye since Grovyle has a surprisingly connected history in the franchise (relevant in Dungeon and the anime, namely). However it's still just muh patterns shit that people bother mentioning him at all as he's been irrelevant for decades.
>Type: Null
That's Silvally, Type: Null's evolution. But presumably just because people know Gen 7 would get a rep and they don't want it to be Incineroar. There's also the quadruped rather than biped argument which would make him interesting I guess.
James Perry
Sorry for the lack of detail, but this is the more of a perfect roster than either of those.
Hudson Scott
Second Corrin is Egedlard.
Caleb Lewis
just like joker
Isaiah Jenkins
I stop looking at a list as soon as I notice two Sonic characters, especially when one is Shadow. Fuck off
Thomas Myers
Sonic deserves 2.
Lincoln Baker
> SMT originated on the NES, Persona is a SMT spin off
> Implying Joker isn't Nintendo
Cope
Henry Davis
>shadow not an echo
Lucas James
Who is that between Skull Kid and Toon Link? Is that Ganon from Link to the Past?
Christian Jackson
>charizard
Shit
>zero-suit Samus
If she’s like she is in brawl, shit
>that hunter from Metroid prime hunters who’s name I forgot
Shit
>the sheer number of Pokémon
Absolutely shit
Juan Kelly
>Cranky Kong
>Captain Syrup
>Tingle
>Porky
>Karate Joe
>Bomberman
>Leon
>Phoenix
EXTREMELY BASED
Easton Morales
>Shovel Knight
Isaiah Howard
No he doesn't. And even if he did it should be Eggman. Fuck Shadow.
Levi Sanchez
>Hatsune Miku
>Nintendo or arcade
Noah Carter
Nope. Sonic is a series for autists and faggots that hasn't had a good game in close to 20 years. The only reason it deserves one rep at all is legacy. Any more is the equivalent of adding shovelware.
Jaxon Price
Gross
Samuel Reyes
get rid of the last 4 and you have my interest
Lincoln Mitchell
>he doesnt want crash
Cooper Moore
>Miku
???
Also Touhou girl has Switch games, even though I'd think she'd be just as bad as Hatsune Miku
Isaiah Phillips
no, it really isn't.
Justin Watson
>it's another "KOSMOSfag/Ayanefag shits up another Smash thread with their fucking abysmal taste and hatred for anything that isn't Japanese"
Hate this epsiode
Nicholas Richardson
Why are you fags trying so hard to squeeze Genesect in Smash ? This guy isn't even popular, its movie was garbage and we already got a gen 6 rep.
Brayden Bennett
here are your cuts for smash 6 bro
>idiot
sakurai himself has said the next game won't have as many, a lot was sacrificed already because little faggots can't live without their 3rd link or 4th marth
Carter Ross
> Everyone is the same boogeyman
> Anything that isn't Western is Bad
Die Grinchie
Hunter Stewart
>most perfect
>fucking ALPH who literally nobody likes, instead of Louie who literally EVERYONE likes.
Carson Gomez
No he fucking didn't. Why are Smashfags so retarded when it comes to taking shit out of context. He's never even spoke directly about Smash 6, just pretty much said "This was really hard to do." If I'm being honest I don't even think Smash 6 is possible, they'll probably just keep porting versions of Ultimate to new consoles, Like Mario Kart 8. Cuts mean risking profits
Tyler Cooper
Sorry but if your character isn't on here & doesn't have a mainline game on a Nintendo console they are irrelevant and will never be added in Smash (Assuming they aren't already in)
Jeremiah Taylor
Genesect is Gen 5. But he's still a stupid pick.
Kayden Barnes
that's a lie. Here's the ACTUAL perfect roster, as made by Yea Forums themselves.
Levi Gomez
>consistently posts the same bullshit every single thread
>> Everyone is the same boogeyman
Seething
Post your "Most Popular Video Game Characters Chart" already as a pitiful attempt to justify your garbage opinions
Gavin Howard
Ridley and K.Rool should be yellow too.
Dylan Campbell
>Thinking that Isabelle has a chance of being cut
>Believing Jigglypuff is a lock
Andrew Martinez
No Mo-
Monster Hunter chads win again!
Mason Hill
>> Everyone is the same boogeyman
>Die Grinchie
am I the only one seeing the irony here?
Chase Hernandez
Aaron Roberts
> Disagreeing with the Yea Forumsivemind when this board has one of the lowest IQ on Yea Forums = Bad
Jesus this place is worse then Resetera
Lucas Torres
Is Yellow supposed to imply possible cuts? Are you trolling? Why the fuck would they cut out first-party staples like G&W and Meta Knight?
Christopher Gonzalez
no, they're rivals of the original 8/12 as well as highly requested over a decade. Not going anywhere
If shitlypuff has been in all the smash games, she's not going anywhere. Fair to assume the original 12 are here to stay.
Angel Nguyen
>first-party staples like G&W and Meta Knight?
first, these arn't first party staples, second to make dev time for other characters. Retro characters are always considered for the chopping block, metaknight isn't as major as kirby/dedede
Noah Cooper
Never said it was perfect, I said it was more of a perfect than the guy with Silvally and the guy with Hatsune Miku and Vaati on their rosters.
Blake Gonzalez
G&W is first party and has been in the game for 18 years. Meta Knight is a Sakurai character that's been there since Brawl. They aren't going anywhere.
Landon Nguyen
>le GameFAQs chart
>le Grinchfag and Reseteratranny boogeyman
Like absolute fucking clockwork
Gabriel Nelson
>Grovyle
>Genesect
>what nu-Mon that is next to Greninja
>no Jigglypuff, Pokemon Trainer, or Meowth
You've got terrible taste, my man
Carson Anderson
"Original 12" isn't a thing. Ness would have been cut in Melee if Mother 3 wasn't delayed. Jigglypuff wouldn't have been in Brawl if Brawl wasn't delayed. Captain Falcon was added because his shape fit the characters from Smash's prototype Dragon King.
Hudson Hill
>Cut Dark Pit
>Add Shadow the Edgehog
Landon Anderson
>would have been in the past
The OG 12 aren't going anywhere past Smash 4. It'd make no sense.
Asher Green
When the fuck are we going to range ban europeans?
Jacob Jones
back then sure, but now there's a different precedent
Blake Martin
>no, they're rivals of the original 8/12
Irrevelant. K.Rool is not even a reccuring character in his own series anymore
>as well as highly requested over a decade
That didn't stop Mewtwo, Pokemon trainer, Wolf and IC to get cut tho.
It's pretty obvious that Sakurai at least didn't want them in Smash to begin with:
>Get mentionned or appears as trophy is every Smash game
>Yet never chosen by Sakurai to be a newcomer
>Only get in because some diehard fans spergged about them for years
>Sakurai literally choose ZSS over Ridley in Smash with a dumb excuses to justify it
This guy are nowhere near safe from being cut.
Eli Ward
Bitch please (1/2)
Mason Carter
It may have not been a thing then but it sure as hell is a thing now
Ness, Captain Falcon, and Jigglypuff are all super fucking iconic Smash characters at this point
James Cook
(2/2)
Kevin Smith
>thinking they would ever cut Isabelle or Duck Hunt
>Wolf, Ridley, or K Rool being safer than Diddy Kong, Lucario, ROB, G&W, Mewtwo, Meta Knight, Ryu, or the Ice Climbers
Holy shit, this is just so wrong on so many levels
Ryan Ward
.Skull Kid
>Tom Nook
>Banjo
>Sylux
Ba-
>no Richter
>Shadow as his own character
Gabriel Torres
>Alucard as an echo for Simon
>Ryu as an ech for Riku
200+ IQ roster right here
James Sanchez
>Meta Knight, Diddy Kong, and Isabelle are more likely to be cut than King K. Rool and Wolf
Tyler Nguyen
>Cranky
>Sceptile
don't need to see the rest, I'm sold
Lincoln Gray
>That didn't stop Mewtwo, Pokemon trainer, Wolf and IC to get cut tho.
none of these were even close to the level of k rool/ridley
Blake Adams
>not nana
Kek
Alexander Turner
>none of these were even close to the level of k rool/ridley
>Wolf
>Pokemon trainer
>Mother Fucking Mewtwo
Source: My ass
Oliver King
He's in.
Benjamin Fisher
K. Rool is a lock for the next smash game because he's a lock for the next smash game. That said you were correct about Diddy being a 100% lock. Even if they gut the roster down to like 30 characters Diddy isn't going anywhere and I'm sick of retards thinking he has any chance of being cut.
Logan Morales
>waluigi
>skullkid
>king boo
>no incineroar
>keeping pichu
>grovyle
>bandana dee
>getting rid of Corrin but keeping girl Marth
>no doomguy
>no plant
>no joker
3/10 got me to reply
Nathaniel Lee
Jaxson Powell
>Mewtwo isn't comparable to Ridley or King K. Rool
Are we talking about the same Mewtwo here? Like, from the Pokemon games?
Henry Sanchez
I expect to get mogged for this because you're one of those smug anime fags but obviously I meant "K. Rool is a lock for the next smash game because he's a lock for the next Donkey Kong game."
Anthony Hughes
I'll do you one better.
Brody Murphy
nobody would even consider the concept of pokemon trainer before the inclusion, starfox has dropped in popularity immensely. Mewtwo you've got a point, but people weren't clamoring for him for over a decade
Isaac Davis
Why do cutfags think anyone is going anywhere? What they're gonna do is port Ultimate over again like Mario Kart 8, and if they can't guarantee return of the roster they aren't going to greenlight a Smash 6. Almost all of the sales and praise for Ultimate is riding on the "Everyone is Here!" slogan. They wouldn't reach a significant fraction of those sales or reception if they tell everyone "Your favorite isn't coming back." They'll make Sakurai do it or they'll have someone else do it if he's too broken down. Either way there's no way they're gonna announce a Smash 6 without being able to secure a deal with every party involved. Until then enjoy Smash U for the next 10 years
Austin Perry
>No Wright
No Buy
Liam Jones
Sakurai said himself that they probably won't be able to pull this off again, and there's no way Cloud makes it back on the base roster going forward. DLC is plausible because SE gets a bigger cut that way.
That said people are expecting the gutting of the century when realistically we can probably expect something like Brawl -> 4 at worst and more likely Melee -> Brawl in terms of cuts.
Ayden Mitchell
Will we ever get a character select screen with this much soul again?
Carter Davis
>Sakurai said himself that they probably won't be able to pull this off again
Can you link me to this? I see it brought up a lot
Brody Reyes
Here's your actual perfect roster.
Gavin Nguyen
add a circumcised penis for cutfags
Andrew Richardson
Ryu is an echo for Kasumi, Riku is a echo for Sora you idiot
Luis Sanders
Hello? Agent O? This is Agent M, we have a Bruh Moment.
Angel Taylor
> Realistic
> Literal who Space Marine
> Nintendo shit that isn't FE or Pokemon
This better be bait
Michael Foster
He also stated in this same interview that a new Smash isn't a guarantee, which to me supports the notion that they will only greenlight one in the future if they can cut a deal with all third parties involved or do something else equally spectacular, which would require a lot of effort to surpass Ultimate's expectations
Isaiah Butler
I don't hate it.
Why aren't the koopalings a costume tho?
Hudson Price
Maybe you should put Kasumi between Riku and Ryu then you idiot.
Ayden Bennett
>> Literal who Space Marine
damn, I should have reserved posting for this embarrassment of a post.
Chase Morgan
they're their own character with each koopaling being an echo fighter of each other, selectable via palette swap
Wyatt Long
Shadow the Hegdehog is a completely different character from Sonic, with different abilities.
Dark Pit is literally just Pit's reflection with darker clothes and a bad additude.
Thomas Lee
>no Ness
lmao
Justin Taylor
Here (+ Eggman) is the perfect list of boss fights
Asher Moore
I feel like if you're going to throw in Lord Freddy as an echo (cool choice), you may as well throw in Dixie for Diddy. They would both probably have about the same amount of tweaks from the original character.
Ethan Scott
He says a new smash isn't a guarantee every game.
Either way I was just explaining the cutfags' reasoning, a new smash is a very long way off anyway.
Thomas Lopez
I think there's more truth to that notion this time around, given the scope of this game. But yeah cutfags go waaay too far. Like weren't Ice Climbers only cut due to the 3DS? From the Switch on out I really don't see them removing any first parties ever again.
Joshua Gray
>no ness
what did he mean by this?
Landon Cox
>no DK boss
gay
pick one:
>King Zing
>Krow
>Colonel Pluck
>Tiki Tong
>Bashmaster
>Lord Fredrik
I'd go with Pluck or Bashmaster personally, they're interesting fights and it throws the Retro games a bone.
Isaiah Hernandez
I only like this roster cause it has monsterhunter. Any roster with a corring style swappable male/female monster hunter and a different monster set on each alt is the perfect roster to me.
Jayden Cook
>The Bounty Hunter marks his next bounty!
A true never ever
Samuel Jenkins
If this was even remotely possible it'd probably be crusader or highwayman.
Regardless, great taste.
Robert Myers
true. I'll add her.
Anthony Gomez
PUT HIM IN
Jayden Parker
>>Colonel Pluck
is that really his name? I always thought it was Feathered Fiend
Christopher Rodriguez
Shit, nevermind I'm just blind
Chase Martin
Yeah, his theme (and the name of the level) is Feather Fiend. It's one of the best songs in Returns. youtube.com
Daniel Diaz
didn't DOOM 2016 win fucking game of the year?
Robert Butler
They might mean ranger which is still retarded because quake is far from unpopular.
Asher Nelson
The only iconic DK boss is K Rool and he is already playable
Jaxson Edwards
If you see the need to add a Splatoon boss I don't see why you wouldn't just go all the way and add a DK boss too.
Jaxon Fisher
Bash Master is unironically the second most iconic and recognizable boss behind K. Rool. It's retarded how many people know him compared to the rest.
Chase Ramirez
who gives a fuck? there are a million game of the year awards out there and none of them mean anything
Colton Flores
>This is the ideal Smash roster. You may not like it, but this is what peak performance looks like.
Juan James
Perfect rosterfag roster, i.e. roster which places greatest priority on "correct" representation rather than characters that would be interesting or characters that people who actually buy and play smash would like to use.
Rosterfaggotry is embarrassing beyond just the obvious reason of arguing about which kids game characters show up in a kids game crossover, but also because rosterfags legit don't even see Smash as a game, just as a platform through which "deserving" franchises receive acknowledgement and attention.
Lincoln Thompson
>rather than characters that would be interesting or characters that people who actually buy and play smash would like to use.
that's what I had in mind when making . The only character that I didn't add due to how interesting they would be is Hades, who I purely added because I love the character, though I'm sure something really interesting could come from all the shit he does during his fights in KI:U.
Justin Ramirez
Out of the way, patrician roster taste coming through.
Caleb Barnes
>removing K. Rool
objectively incorrect regardless of your other choices
Connor Brown
I didn't have K. Rool? Fuck, my bad dude. In my defense I spent a lot of time on that so I'm not surprised I forgot something like that.
Brody Jenkins
Add in a Pokemon Sword and Shield rep and I'd agree with you.
Jonathan Brown
Sceptile would make far more sense than Grovyle. Only autists care about Mystery Dungeon and Sceptile can Mega Evolve.
Cooper Gutierrez
Pokemon haters should be gassed. No way in hell Shitley and K. Drool would be prioritized in favor of Lucario and Greninja. Pokemon deserves to have the highest number of reps because no other franchise compares to it in influence and legacy. And having only Gen 1 Pokemon doesn't accurately reflect the long-lasting nature of the series. Pokemon has been around for over twenty years. It's time to move on from KANTOOOOOOOO.
Ian Foster
>no ghoul lord
Adam Long
>not Kracko
>not Marx
>not Dark Matter
>not Zero
>not Void Termina
>not Nightmare
>Whispy fucking Woods
Gabriel Hernandez
I like how I can tell this was made before Ultimate
Christopher Kelly
I believe you mean a HEEHEE moment.
Levi Rivera
K. Rool sucks ass and is overrated as a villain. Even his creator admitted he had a terrible name.
Elijah Nelson
Your shitty opinion aside, that complain doesn't exactly work when the guy's got Wart on his roster.
Leo Johnson
Though he's kind of generic, I wouldn't mind Ghastly King as a boss.
Leo Davis
this would be fine too, though not my first pick
Samuel Hill
Most based ITT
Sebastian Cruz
wow, it's fucking nothing. The most boring roster yet.
Asher Young
>Veronica
Based
Carson Young
You don't understand British self deprecating humour my dude
Wyatt Russell
>no King Hippo
IT'S SHIT
Gabriel Murphy
I am very high. Sorry. But what is the answer to the question? Because i actually dont know the answer. I am also listening to nintendo lo fi. It's amazing. Shmagadagga!
Kayden Reed
Patrician Coming through
Kayden Jones
>still believing that there's set rules for newcomers
Juan Robinson
>Still pushing the King Boo meme
Ah, rosterfags never fail, do they?
Aaron Howard
Unironically based
Dylan Morgan
>no louie
yikes!
Gabriel Cook
Remove Steve, Bandanna Dee, and Tingle and add in Maria Liteyears, Jill Dozer and Adeleine and it would be perfect.
David Scott
What influence? There are like 2 other monster collecting series
Jason Perry
I agree for the most part. Only Spyro would make this better.
Jace Miller
>The VGAs
>A collection of actual devs announcing and accepting awards
>not meaning anything
You can disagree with their picks, user, but it's the official awards show for games.
Xavier Collins
Remove or replace the substitute doll and it's actually perfect
Julian Mitchell
>Itsnotaphasemom the Hedgehog, Eggcrap and Hatsune Miku
>before Arle, Ringo or Kiryuu
Is that my Daugther Caro?
Nicholas Brooks
Rent.free
Joseph Sullivan
bruh
Christopher Lewis
Retfri xdd
Colton James
>banjo
Austin Ward
>cutfag
>Sephiroth
Kill yourself
Jonathan Bailey
Pretty good.
Lincoln Davis
>Anna who is basically the mascot of the series isn't in smash yet
Who the hell is picking these characters
Lucas Young
>no roy
Its shit