Weapon Design

>locked prewar safe
>pipe pistol
>jet
>prewar money
>caps

well it kinda makes sense if it's meant to be a widely used standard issue rifle

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>that'll be $69.99 plus the tip
what do you say?

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what if a gun was so cool you needed a gun condom haha wouldnt that be weird

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The FUTURE will have HOLES!!!

I can do more damage with my bike chains.

look at that barrel length tho

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Despite it being generic this is still sex

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this thing gets worse the longer i look,

>protrusion serves no purpose as chainsaw are not striking weapons
>guiding pully would get chewed up instantly
>chain guides only let you get about a half inch of penetration before the get in the way
>the fuel tank is a handle causing stress on the threads
>exhaust aimed right back at you
>back guard not long enough to prevent damage from kickback

what a mess

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Was it kino?

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Does that stock have another foldout stock

hole technology will protect us

apart from the fact that it looks ridiculous i don't see anything functionally wrong with it

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Thats just a butchered p90 PDW with a top rail carrying handle instead of a top feed and a rear magazine well.
Pic related is the second best fiction gun
1st: Pulse Rifle Aliens
3rd: Morrita assault rifle Starship Troopers

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for more accuracy of course

not a fan of the weapon design in general in this game especially since they don't let you paint them

>AK with car audio parts and a CPU attached

I actually really like this design. It reminds me of the modified AK in the film Elysium.

Dude wires and randomly placed processors lmao

not gonna lie, i would be quite suprised if the world ever runs out of aks.

Are there even any video games that don't have over-designed guns or take pre-existing guns but with stupid bullshit added to them?

looks like a nerf longshot

where does the underbarrel feed from? why does it have a second bolt? wouldn't you want the back end of the gun to be atleast close to as heavy as the front?

>here’s your rifle bro

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Plenty of milsims

It looks like a piece of wire attached to the stock and the magwell

>Walks on point and slaps your medic on the ass
Is there a more chad gun than the scattergun?
>twitter.com/DCDeacon/status/668802348140109824
OMG NEW SWEETROLLS ON CREATION CLUB
Would this thing even function?

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Ah yes, the Rollercoaster Tycoon school of weapons development.

>just strap on some computer and shit bros
youtube.com/watch?v=I1ErX3gOVpY

Funny, I was about to say how I hate that design and it was the same reason I disliked Elysium, well I disliked Elysium for more then that.

>Iv got spurs, that jingle jangle jingle

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Well, I mean, some may scorn it as casual, but curving the bullet manually ends up being quite a strain on your arms.

How the fuck does the magazine feed into the chamber?!

That design is kind of neat, even if the feeding mechanism makes no fucking sense and reloading it requires you to lose the bead on your target.

It already has for the most part, most of the AK type rifles on the market are Chinese knock offs of the AKM. Well that is if you meant the original AK-47. The real originals are actually somewhat rare.

jesus christ it almost doesn't make me want to vomit
wood sure is something

Space magic

You're like a little baby...

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Mini conveyor belt, gotta have that thumbhole stock.

This is actually more realistic. It’s very unlikely that military forces will move away from AR/AK pattern rifles for several hundred years.

I loved the sound the helghan rifles made

>Those bullets

I always assumed that they used caseless rounds or something to justify the weird magazine.

Does anyone have that borderlands 2 gun where the barrel arches you and down and then turns into a minigun

there's clearly a hexagonal scope so settle down ok?

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up*

Wood furniture on any of the M16 alike patterns make them objectively alright. Though I dislike the actual rifle immensely and hate the fact its still in use by our military.

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upsidedown fucked up bullpup ak is cool.

>1st: Pulse Rifle Aliens
>3rd: Morrita assault rifle Starship Troopers
Both of these guns are fucking retarded, but at least the former makes a really cool sound and has some sights. The Morita has no place in any combat scenario

Hey, shit on the M16 all you want, but you stay away from the AR10, you hear me? I'll fuck you

>every time
>And that's how it should be

best lmg coming through

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It looks like there's not even a millimeter of space behind where the magazine feeds, where's the bolt supposed to go? Especially since that looks like a latch for a folding stock on it.

2142 was too good for this world

Reminds me of my gunfu...

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It's an "energy" weapon, there are no bullets. The mag is some kind of a battery

the only problem is they removed the paintball hopper

Take your right-handed privilege elsewhere, shitlord

#LeftyLivesMatter

based /k/ommandos getting shit into vidya.

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haha benis :DDDD

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>loved army of 2
>decide to look up what the fuck happened with the series after 40th day
>one more game got released in 2013
>PC's are nobodies who literally do not have names to make it easier to self-insert
>plot is fucking around in mexico with cartels and shit
>the eternal bromance of Salem and Rios is shattered as they betray and want to kill each other
>mfw

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>Bullet 374 is lost and can't find the muzzle!

That thing looks sturdy as fuck. Why have we strayed so far from the path of righteousness?

Why do games always make silly names for guns?

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Why does it protrude so much then?

the bayonet is the best part

because we didn't deserve bf2142 in the first place, like said.

What the actual fuck is this.

fallout 3 shotgun

My favorite part is the fact the emitter is pointed directly at an obstruction.

this isn't that bad though. its from a game that makes it obvious its not trying to be realistic unlike CoD or fallout, and its a futuristic energy weapon. Looks pretty good imo, and obviously based on the carbine from halo. the only issue is the mag placement is really dumb. They should've made the top part with the sight slide forward or the back part on top of the stock slide backwards to reload instead.

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>shoot gun once and it explodes
>bazinga

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>Yea Forums still says borderlands is a good series

HD remake FUCKING WHEN

>sidegrip shotguns

Mmmm sexual

Does it have two magazine tubes? Jesus Christ.

Uh oh.

youtube.com/watch?v=jpoJxnHNcqw
the pathetic damage output didn't help either

what's the other side look like?

I barely ever see anyone discussing Borderlands, much less praising it.

Here's your futuristic Big Iron bro

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(you)

you might as well just post the Denel NTW-20

>Here's your Kriss verctor bro, we removed the vector part though, hope you don't mind!

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Someone call The Hague, I'd like to report a war crime.

EA seems to think that they will go bankrupt if players are actually allowed to have fun, so never.

You know damn well that if they did do an HD remaster it would be butchered by microtransactions and other bullshit. Better to keep those happy memories unspoiled user

Fuck, you're right but, fuck, at least they can't monetize my memories

for a few years there it felt like every other "futuristic" gun had to be designed with 45 degree angles all over the place and high contrast color schemes. District 9 came out around the same time I think and I recall thinking the alien guns in that movie looked like they were ripped straight out of Mass Effect 2.

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There is literally nothing wrong with the M16.

I just hope some other company makes a similar experience, lifting the concept and just zuzzing it up with modern graphics and sensibilities. you can even keep it alive in the business sense with expansion packs like bf2142 did, the northern winter map/weapon pack thing that was fuckin great is a good example of paid content that was worth a shit.

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The Typhoon from Crysis 3 was fun. Shame it's in such a mediocre game.
youtu.be/iflmHVj1dzU?t=16

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I still adore the firing sound used by the collector's rifle.

In their defense most of the guns look fine, it's rare that you get one that's really retarded looking. Guns are generated from a pool of parts that includes all made by every manufacturer, so when you get a gun composed totally of one company's parts it looks okay, and it gets worse when they mix and match.

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yet

Bullpup is the most kino of gun designs

I remember when people thought it was a typo when they released the rate of fire.

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>tfw the design of most Mass Effect weapons makes no sense even accounting for lore explanations of their function.
Even so I love almost all of their designs. They're just so aesthetic

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isn't that literally a portable metal storm?

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Actually designed by a real firearms company (CMMG)

This.. Is is actually really sexy.

At least here it's justified in that you have an over-under double barrel with two chambers.

>here's your burst-shot rifle, bro
>it fires all four barrels at once

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>dinner's almost ready user, burger night!

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This was the easiest possible thing to design, they had to have fucked it up on purpose.

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You still gotta replace it pretty frequently.

game?

the M96 mattock was literally the only reason I played through ME2 & 3

Battlefield 4

battlefield 4

truly never seen anything like it before

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Lightning guns are cool as fuck and I wish they were more common. I wish there were more fantasy shooters.

kino

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>here's your custom stretch goals reward bro
>be sure to preorder the game!

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It sounds so goddamn good, tho

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Doesn't make sense in most cases, but in some it'd be easy to see how they could be a cache some other bandit or explorer used.
It's EVERYONE'S pre-war bottlecap collection that gets me though.

>USE YOUR HEART TO ACTIVATE THE POWER OF FRIENDSHIP SORA *HYUK*
This was my first time making a thread in months and it gets copy pasted. FUcking /k/ I won't forget this

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I want to know if they ever explained the computer parts, particularly what looks like an external harddrive with analogue video cables plugged into it. Like maybe the cpu can calculate something that lessens recoil in the moment and its okay because its a homemade attachment that doesn't do enough work to overheat or some shit but I can't even come up with any bullshit for the thing on the butt.
...but I also don't want to dig for the explanation so if anyone knows..?

why did it sound so uniquely satisfying? it was like every shot was a sledgehammer punching a giant railroad spike through a ceramic floor tile.

>making new combat rifle in late 90's, xm8
>designer's want it to look futuristic
>literally draw inspiration from starship troopers
>now most new guns from 00's look futuristic
>futuristic weapons in media now need to be more futuristic...ery
Sorry boys, we're in for some real asstastic designs since all the good ones are taken.

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>game takes place in 1500 AD
>guns haven't been invented yet
>still need projectile weapons

here you go bro

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Probably the only gun reskin from UT4 I liked, not that it matters now the game's been left to rot.

dayum, zeus has a double-knot. Absolute madgod

Reminds me of the Bolt Driver from the original Planetside which had you break open the gun and shove in a bullet about the size of a mans forearm.

All things considered I could see an outer shell like that being 3D printed.

When Fortnite started getting really big after its BR release, it was then I realized that Epic is guaranteed to never fucking touch that thing again. Did it ever make it to beta?

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If you stab yourself in the shoulder with the butt, it obviously reduces recoil. Duh.

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Simple is better to be honest, family

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This looks like something you'd see being used in the middle east today

handgeld gauss rufles

nice, I was about to post this for a future gun

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i fucking hate guns with "futuristic" gun designs with a passion
9/10 times they look like utter shit

So that's why they call it a hammer.

I thought the Flak Cannon was pretty good, nice mix of 99 and 2k4.

that's exactly it, and with the soldier's bullet time ability it sounds like a jackhammer

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I'll never get over how much this rifle looks like it belongs in a video game. It has the perfect "slightly futuristic generic bad guy" look to it.

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By the way, what is this weapon based on? All the weapons in splatoon are made to look like something that shoots water or is used for drawing but can't quite place this one.

I wonder if there was ever a /k/ommando that tried to do this irl and got disappointed when nothing happened/it blew up their face and hands

it's obviously a blowforward system brainlet

That’s a real gun? It totally looks like something out of some forgettable sci-fi shooter.
The Citizen Kane of hilariously awful character design, up there with the pizza cutter sword guy.

Just looks like some retarded bullpup G36, honestly.

It's a laser gun so it has cumputer parts on it. What more of an explanation do you need?

is that a FAMAS?

Yes, it's a croatian gun. The first one was a FAMAS knockoff.

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>kf1
>medic weapons are real life guns that also shoot healing darts
>kf2
>medic weapons are plastic glowy shit
i hate it

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It's very clearly an AK that has been modified to shoot lasers and you're a retard if you seriously couldn't figure that out within seconds of looking at it

>"futuristic" gun
>it's just a p90

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>future shotgun
>Still pump action

you're pretty good

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>sci-fi movie
>evil oppressive government uses P90s painted white
fucking lazy

>gun designed in 1947
>two centuries later
>Vlad, do we update rifle? we have new technologies
>no Ivan, rifle is good! Just... tape on those gadgets or something

they also sound and feel totally unsatisfying to shoot. Even the Hemoglobin while sounding cool on paper ended up underwhelming. I feel bad for Field Medics.

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Okay but what would you need these kinds of computer parts to calculate on a small laser with one setting, much less a pc's cpu (without a cooler) and a hardrive's worth of memory (somehow connected by outdated video cables)?

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>extremely primitive gun
>more efficient and complicated than some modern weaponry

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Here's your widespread in 2077 assault rifle bro

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That's not a p90.

AH FUCK SHIT
HURTS MY HANDS

>dude... triangles and holes..

It's clearly there so that if the enemy picks up their rifle after either being killed or losing control of it in a struggle they don't know what to do with it. The moment of hesitation over what the fuck all those wires mean allows you to gain the upper hand in the altercation.

Hey, ballpups are the future... Only if they design electronic triggers instead. Otherwise they're kinda shit for that reason.

>here is your portable railgun bro
youtu.be/JhrHiqcrv2g?t=118

NO IT'S MINE!

is this from Scorn?

>designed for use with power armor by the devs
>canonically designed for use with power armor in the context of the game
>the most common rifle you can find after pipe weapons

Scorn is HR gieger style body horror. Those guns are from the insanity that is Zeno Clash.

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considering what the land of Zenozoik is, that isn't really surprising.

Hasbro making gun parts again?

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>Johnson the enemy is attacking why aren't you shooting back
>I forgot to charge my trigger last night sarge
>God fucking damnit Johnson

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Portable stove outer tank, water heater handle, some other stuff

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meant for What pringles flavor is this?

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Horzine's cutting the budget, so they're stuck with the type of plastic you can only find in eco-friendly cars, the piece of shit ones that dent when you lightly slap it.

If this eluded me I wonder how many awesome games have flown over my head in recent years. Thanks for pointing me to it, looks sweet.

Presumably they power the laser and control things like rate of fire and power and whatnot

I really, really hate Halo 4/5 and many of the gun designs are downgrades but goddamn did they do a good job with the railgun.

>The Phaeston from ME3

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>a supreme gentleman you said?
>here you will like it

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Zeno Clash is amazing, I love games with surrealist art styles

Just build in a generator, so you can charge the gun as you cock it.

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I got it,
the hillbilly who rigged it made sure it could be inserted with nearly any type of battery ammo regardless of voltage or other aspects...
the harddrive has information on various battery types downloaded from in some unique database, its size is necessary because of how many options it has
to access this data the simplest method is rigging it with other computer parts running unix, these don't get very hot because it doesn't do much other then identifying ammo types
the video cables jerry rigged into the hd is a bit of a hack for efficiency in the given database that as far as you need to know just works according to the internet guid you got the design from
There you go.

>rupture every blood vessel in your body by firing a single shot

>Thousands of years in the future
>The world has regressed back to using swords and shit
>An evil lord is trying to take over the world
>Some chosen one hero has to track down the ancient powerful weapon to stop him
>Finally finds the weapon in some ruins
>It's an AK-47
>Still in perfect working order

>knife goes into your shoulder adding extra stability and recoil control
>scope blocked off because aiming is for pussies that dont get in their enemies faces
>double bayonet to make sure the bitch you shank dies
This is a mans gun

>He doesn't know the capabilities of modern-day batteries.
>Futuristic gun batteries would last much longer.

Pic related is how long a red-dot from Holosun lasts - 5.7 years.

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>knife goes into your shoulder adding extra stability and recoil control
I'm surprised some grimderp setting hasn't done this already.
Call it a "Stability Spike" or something.

>wanted a rifle to look ok when using in power armor

Correct me if I'm wrong but according to Fallout lore wasnt the whole point of power armor to use and operate heavy weaponry and leave the small arms to regular infantry?

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>Can't tell it's sarcasm
bro...

What if the soldier has been using it for 50,000 hours and forgot to charge it last night? Johnson sounds like the type of guy to do that because this things will last for eternity

Futuristic batteries are expected to last much longer than that. Also, what is gun maintenance to you? Gun owners should maintain their weapons regularly. Sounds like Johnson is some village idiot that doesn't know anything about guns.

retard

Man, this rifle's amazing. I wonder if I could fit that whole barrel

up my ass

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>Sounds like Johnson is some village idiot that doesn't know anything about guns.
Thank you for getting the point of my post.

It's funny how in fallout 4 you can see gore and shit (not shit, no one has to take a dump ever, it's forbidden in video games) but guns cannot be real so no one can replicate them.

>Why don't customers like future warfare games?
>what is it about ww2 they like so much??

>he doesn't just shit on the lore at a moment's notice because the devs just wanted something that looked epic
You'll never get anywhere in the gaming industry thinking like that!

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I know a few 3d artists and whenever they show me some new upload on artstation I make sure to point out all the technical and functional flaws.
Their comebacks are typically 'but it looks good' or 'but it's art, it doesn't need to be realistic', but I tell them a good looking design is still useless if it doesn't fucking work and then they get mad and tell me that I couldn't do an asset like that if I tried.

>mfw I tell them I could easily do it and they get even more triggered

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Johnson simply pulls out a sidearm. And if he forgot to check on the batteries of that one. Then he uses a bolt-action because that's the only thing he's competent in using.

They're right though, the vast majority of people don't know how the fuck guns work, why waste time making a 3D render of something functional when you could make something aesthetically pleasing

I like it

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That's why the future needs to be bolt action sidearms, noise and concussion be damned

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why not rise to the challenge of making something aesthetic and functional?

Is there any game with weapons, futuristic or otherwise, that use multi ammo types?
For example gauss rifles requiring both projectile and energy source, or a gas cartridge based arrow shooter, requiring the cartridge to be reloaded after approx. 10 to 20 shots. I wanted that shit eversince i saw BethOuts Gauss rifle (not the portable conveyor belt from FO4) where the gun clearly has a magazine, yet the only thing we reload is the battery

>cloth on gun
they really went full actual graphics

Dumb people shouldn't be given a single consideration

Why would you require two magazines instead of say, having a 10 round magazine that has a built in 10 charge battery?

Noplz.... Bolt-action is old-tech... before the WW1... But it works...

And if he doesn't have any arms

>When the gun used for riot suppression is also the standard issue military rifle

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And screeching autists should?

Basically you just want to make a flat rectangle with a trigger. Bonus points if there's some sort of cylindrical mechanism built into the side of the gun that rotates and goes VVVRRRRRRRRRRRRRR, maybe it ejects and vents heat.

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The closest that I can think of is the Tikhar and Helsing in Metro that you need to reload with ball bearings or darts and then manually pump to rebuild pressure after firing because they're pneumatic.

They go to the oven

The only big problem with bullpups is case ejection, which some real guns already account for.
You could also, you know, train your soldiers to shoot with the right hand, because it really doesn't fucking matter at all what your "dominant" hand is, you can still learn to use the other for specific tasks; and if you don't believe me, please show me the fabled musician who plays his instruments flipped.
Any further innovation you want in your futuristic guns? you'll have to look at internal parts and, mainly, the rounds themselves (bullet, propellant, primer, etc). Take a good look at pic related, the only reason all the new technologies (cold war era) implemented in this meme aren't widespread is because of a minor chemical setback.
Unless you're in the far-future, then yeah, laser and kinetic weapons become an option.

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NEW FUTURE SOLDIER CONCEPT
OBREZ ONLY

If Johnson didnt have any arms. God knows why Sarge has been punished for having a nugget as a battle companion.

Because good design is both functional and aesthetic, with the beauty often being a result of the functionality.
Sure, you can slap random gun parts together, add a bunch of wires and pipes and all sort of attachments, and it will look good to normies when the 3d art is good quality. I don't deny that.
But imo it would look even better if the design could actually work and not fall apart at the slightest bit of scrutiny. It would even be helpful for their careers to be able to design functional stuff, because it would differentiate them from the masses of shit artists who can't.
'it looks good' should never be allowed to explain why a design looks the way it looks.

thanks!

You're not supposed to molest nuggets, Sarge. We have a doe for that.

>people still dont understand that this is the future
>what if we made it look like some type of gun satellite?
vs
>one 40 boy

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>if Groza and P90 had a baby

This is probably my favorite video game gun

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>missing the point this hard

>one in the pink
>one in the stink

Loved those weapons. Didn't really satisfy the itch, but was still very enjoyable to watch the reload of those

kek

i really fucking hate the look of "future" guns

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That gun in pic related is probably the most complicated small-arms gun in history. idc about guns being lefty or righty since there are guns that can eject the shells downwards, and the technology can be applied to futuristic ballpups. As for the projectiles shot, I'd say electronic-based projectiles. I really like the Typhoon from Crysis 3.

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best weapons incoming

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brainlet with almost no /k/nowledge here. Would this be considered breech loading? Or is it not because it has a magazine? Or is it a breech loaded magazine. I am confused.

>How quickly would you life the gun to fire?
>Yes

God I hate the vector and anything based on it. Ugly walkman looking pieces of trash.

supposed to be yes, Fallout 1 gave a STR boost I believe that allowed you to be able to use heavy weapons

i didn't like the ripper in 3/new vegas either, why a retarded turkey cutter chainsaw knife instead of a cool 40k style chainsword

But HK G11 is so cool tho.

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the an-94 could be said to be just as complex because it does the same thing as the g11 but not caseless

Imagine being the poor fucker stabbed with this fucking abomination.

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Its weapon engineering porn but its hideous to everyone else.

It's loaded from the back of the barrel, so yes it's breech loading. If it's loaded from the front of the barrel, it's muzzle loading.

this one actually made me angry

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Have you heard of a Minigun? It goes through lots of bullets really really fast, but needs an electrical energy source to fire. Are you going to redesign a belt of 7.62 NATO to have a 12volt battery inside, or are you going to have your battery and your ammo separate?

>here's your bug weapon, bro!

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No.. Have you seen the internals of a G11?

The an94 is also very complex, yes. Def not as complex as the g11, but still.

Yeah...

>nearly any type of battery ammo regardless of voltage or other aspects
That's not how electricity works, you'd need a whole regulator for that, and here's a hint: the more sources you want to work with, the bigger your regulator needs to be, and no, using more efficient materials doesn't reduce the solid dimensions.
/thread
It's not THAT complicated, and could be made simpler (and better) with current technology, and the advantages probably make up for it.

Companies that produce things should ideally concentrate on producing high-quality products instead of playing psychological chess with their customers at the behest of the marketing department so they can shave off more profit to satisfy in-house financial analysts.

It's all about hard surface and greebling. They're both great tools, but so overused by so many designers and modelers that it's insane. It's made doubly bad by the fact that most devs are apparently hyper liberal and are afraid they'll get PTSD from looking at firearm references for more than 10 seconds. If they would they'd realize there's only 2 pins in an AR binding the upper and lower. The rest is for the trigger group, the safety, and the mag release. Looking at your image there's 2 dozen fasteners to hold on fucking sheet metal shrouds.

Is it a scoped bayonet or a bayoneted scope

It's like a worse version of a seburo

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The G11 is only more complex in design, but mechanically is much less complex. The AN-94 has more moving parts, probably more total parts, and is retardedly complex. There's even a fucking pulley system in there. The G11's system was extremely streamlined in the way it accomplishes its goals. The AN-94 was basically vodka engineering that barely even reached its goal by accident and with way too much effort.

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It took this long

Yes.

Well that and to phase out tanks.

Left vs right handedness with respect to guns has more to do with which eye is dominant than anything your hands do.

>It's made doubly bad by the fact that most devs are apparently hyper liberal and are afraid they'll get PTSD from looking at firearm references
of course they look at real firearms for references dumbass, all artists look at references

that knife holder is lewd

its a bullpup P90

What's this? Can you make weapons base game?

They don't know what they're looking at tho. They just look for cool shapes they can slap together.

>mixer style minigun

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p90 is already a bullpup

they patched it very quickly

MGSV has a weapon customization feature that, early on, had a bug which allowed you to combine weapon parts which didn't exactly make sense. For example, a silenced frag grenade which enemies couldn't hear explode.

I didn't say they don't look at them faggot, but I did say they're afraid of firearms and their culture which is super evident looking at most of the shit in this thread. Tons of game guns have impossible actions for example, where the mag placement is in the butt of the gun but the action is 12 inches away. Or rifles with what are apparently 4" barrels. Magazines that feed into thumbholes.

Sick reference bro
I don't hate halo, it's good.

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>have to jerk it off to reload

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>I did say they're afraid of firearms and their culture which is super evident looking at most of the shit in this thread.
not knowing about something does not mean you're afraid of it, that's a massive projection on your part
If I asked you to make up a boat right now from reference pictures and you knew nothing about boats and made something silly does that mean you're afraid of maritime culture?

6-barreled RL that can shoot all barrels at once

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I'm never going to not be upset about Counter Strike using the forward assist as a pinball plunger.

>we've got tonnes of toxic waste as a byproduct of Taridium ore refinement
>let's just use it as ammo!

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I'd read up on boats and look them up on Youtube, and ride around on a boat if possible, or simply tell you I couldn't handle the job.

that's not how it works when you have a job, you don't have time to get intimately familar with everything you're doing, you're just trying to make something that looks cool
not that I'm defending the dumbass designs they come up with, I'm just saying it doesn't have anything to do with any political bias, nobody who is making shooter games is 'afraid of guns'

does anyone have those guns saved that an user 3D modeled? One of them was basically just a rectangular prism with a curve near one end

Never played the game but could it be caseless ammo?

I think the problem is "rule of cool". If you sit down and hash out several different lines or families of plausible service firearms made with basic engineering principles and military/law enforcement use in mind you'll get told the guns look "Boring and generic" by your creative/art director and that you should go make them look "more futuristic and diverse" which results in the nonsense ITT.

I disagree. g11 is more complex (it rotates the caseless ammo at 2000 rpm) but german vs vodka engineering means its a much nicer, less slapdash package so it appears less complex. There is a reason that the internals of the g11 are not even designed to be taken apart by anyone other than the manufacturer.

As long as humans have weak flesh bodies ak's will be relevant

I always hated this thing, could never kill anybody with it but would always die after touching a glob someone laid down right on a teleporter exit, made me butthurt.

>not modelling from the ground up using a blowup
What the fuck is wrong with people. It's all smoke and mirrors, I get it, a game ready model will never ship with a full action and trigger group, it's too intensive and wholly inefficient, but it's also absurd to load your game full of stupid nonsensical bullshit. Everyone should feel obliged to look into the engineering details.

Weapons, historically, have usually been designed with 3 features in mind. Fewest number of (moving especially) parts, ease of disassembly for field cleaning, and safety. Overall these create an efficient and functional weapon that is less prone to jamming and malfunctions.

All that greebling, all the hard surface features, the spinning bits, the odd triggers and strange magazines go against those very pragmatic constraints which creates unrealistic weapons.

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Find a flaw
Pro tip: you can't

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Video gamers care about things that look 'cool', not realistic

It makes sense tho

Fuck man I miss this game so much

You just didn't know how to use it right.
>hear someone running
>quickly splash this shit allover the walls and the floor
>back away and switch to Flak
>if the bitch-to-be jumps over sludge, he gets flak
>if he dodges flak he gets into sludge
>if he's an idiot he trips sludge right away
it's a tactical area denial weapon

Based tarkov poster

Rotating something at high RPM from gas operation is not more complex than having a gun that's simultaneously recoil and gas operated.
The G11 just operates like the wheels of a steam locomotive plus a plunger to feed and is pretty easy to understand, and really not too hard to design once you've paved the way. The complexity of the design is just shrinking it down that much and making it compact and very user friendly. The AN-94 makes no sense being some weird two operation gun with a half feed system requiring multiple different systems just to work. I've watched multiple videos on the AN-94 and its system is still absolute nonsense to me. I don't think any amount of german engineering can fix that gun the way it was designed.

Realistic shit can look dope too. Here's an example of a WWI gun that looks LIT.

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Any real gun looks way 'cooler' than any of that scifi diesel bullshit desu

Ultra low bore axis pistol, also a real gun.

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yes thats why i put cool in quotes
this half-futuristic call of duty meets halo bullshit looks like dogshit

Mateba

>here's your sacred armaments for this crusade bruva

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what's first officer riker doing in the chat log?

why do they use dumbfire weapons that don't shoot target-tracking projectiles in the 41st millenium

You have to do this with a distressingly large number of Infested weapons. You just work the shaft until they're ready to shoot off again. Weird as fuck.

In lore space marines are aimbot tier and get bullied if they miss 2 shots with their guns.

SPIW guns look cool as fuck.

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>becomes more accurate the longer you shoot
fuck yeah

>Tactical Oral Hygiene Apparatus

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then why do they have to roll dice to hit

Lasguns look really nice.

Gameplay.

>two triggers
truly a weapon to surpass metal gear

Destiny has some really pretty handguns (pic related), but DXHR still takes it. That bad boy has been and always will be the most beautiful revolver of all vidya.

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thats how real shotgun attachments work

3 grenades ON the gun was a shit requirement

Destiny is aight. It's the fact that they lean into the "future magic bullet gun design" motif that makes it o/k/ay.

The Veist weapons are usually my favorite.

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>i'm gonna stab you with my brick

it does not have a poop sock

>DUDE ITS THE FUTURE THAT MEANS GUNS HAVE TO LOOK FUCKING RETARDED LMAO
>NO THEY CAN'T LOOK LIKE ACTUAL GUNS CLEARLY NOBODY WILL STILL BE INSPIRED BY THEIR DESIGNS TRUST ME I PLAY AIRSOFT EVERY OTHER SUNDAY

You know that's how underbarrel attachments work, right?

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because they're gay

Nope, seems absurd to me.

>call gun taco tuesday
That liberal """"""writing"""""" again.

a nautilus

How do you think they activate the attachment? It shoots when they think "shoot now please!"?

Yes

That would make sense, if fallout was consistent.

Maybe some day, user. Once we get exoskeletons and shit like that it's a def possibility.

STEP ASIDE HUMIE
ERE'S SOME REAL WEAPONS

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>Have a bunch of free models from turbosquid and make a gun with them. You have to use them all.

Bad idea, just watch the scene from the new Predator movie where that kind of thing blows a guy's head off with his own gun.
Got a chuckle out of me, though.

The whole ork placebo shapes their reality is cool but also makes me not really care about a lot of their stuff cause when anything can be anything as long as they think it is, it kind of loses its luster.

Good writers don't work for videogame companies.

user...

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>Why do games always make silly names for guns?
1. easier to refer to
2. video games are silly, you sweaty dweeb
3. DEAGLE BRAND DEAGLE

Obrez-chan! Obrez-chan!

>anything can be anything as long as they think it is
are you implying all the other technology in warhammer is more plausible?

>Though I dislike the actual rifle immensely and hate the fact its still in use by our military.
pls elaborate

I think in the newest edition they've implied the ambient field only enhances stuff and that mekboys tech know how comes from instinct in the form of genetic memory since they were artificially created

you only say that because of the fire selector's markings

What are you on about, that thing looks terrible.

is it future post-apocalypse?
i expected they'd never bother to explain the setting, it's too surreal for that

also, is 2 any good?

zoom

>they can't monetize my memories
They already can roughly read the mind of someone to form coherent word on a screen through a special helmet

Eventually they'll be able to reverse the process and buy/sell the memories and skills of the best cook, best ingeneer, best programmer

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i'm in love with this gun
it just looks so high-quality, both the machining and the design

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First version looked better
Expecially the primary fire

>buy/sell the memories and skills of the best cook, best ingeneer, best programmer
Can't fucking wait.

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the whole concept of rifle grenades is so embarrassing i can't believe people stuck with it for decades
why can't you just hand a dedicated grenade launcher to every squad
even underslung, removable launchers are a huge hassle

He's right, the G11 is just a hollow plastic brick with a watch that moves backwards when it's fired, but doesn't come to a stop until 3 rounds have already left the barrel, and the AN94 has the same buffer system, but with 2 rounds instead of 3

Bull pups are pretty great. Especially the Steyr AUG.

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that's litterally just the assault rifle from Halo mashed up with the p90

Well the point of the AN-94 was to fire two projectiles so fast that the second round was fired before the effect of the recoil from the first round has the chance to effect the shooter. I imagine it takes some kind of Russian space magic to actually get that working, hence the complexity.

Not less than any other franchise with their super duper ultimate guns.

Love the look of the mp7. I always try to use it in any game its in.

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>Clockwork monstrosity cooked up by autistic Germans
it's fucking beautiful

what is muscle memory then?

try tarkov

Shit broken game

just like your anus after the ruskies are done with it

How do you use this slider correctly?

>DEAGLE
I hate this name so much, and I can't even explain why. It's like when people say they hate the word moist

>at least they can't monetize my memories
That's quite literally what nostalgia baiting is, and it's been shown to work on lessers

did you ever stop to think that might be recoil absorption tech?

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Tech is declining fast and the guys with the best tech dont like to share

Heck normal projectile weapons are still a thing and most ship weapons are manually loaded

No :)

>external targeting system to work with airburst ammo

>strapping computer parts to an AK makes it a lazor
Infinite Warfare was retarded. Post the double gun please.

all ship weapons that matter are guided missiles or planes that shoot guided missiles
warhammer is WW2 in space

Why are so many future sidearms so huge and bulky when those wouldn't normally be qualities you'd want in a sidearm in the first place?

Fallout 3 was kinda meh,but atleast the weapons looked cool most of the time,how did they screw up so much in 4?

Plausibility isn't the issue. The issue is a metal pipe could shoot space marine seeking instagib bullets if they orks thought they did. It's no longer cool mad max style juryrigged scrap weapons and tech, and now is just a deus ex machina that is only limited because orks are dumb.

If that's true, that's much better.

>giant, unwieldy brick of a pistol
>calibre: 9mm

They spent too much time designing the admittedly very good robots and power armor.

Using gun names usually means you have to buy the license to do so. Also the target audience of CoD is edgy high schoolers, so names like "prowler" is perfect.

Their old concept artist died and the new guy had different priorities I guess. Though that dumbass not-Lewis gun assault rifile was originally called the Machine Gun and the Fallout 3 G3 assault rifle was going to be in the game, but they took it out because they "had too many guns already" or some backwards nonsense.

>a metal pipe could shoot space marine seeking instagib bullets if they orks thought they did
thats not how it works

LOL

Such weapons are relics of the past and the Space Marines have integrated autoaim.
The rest must make due.
Granted the weaponary degraded even further in the last 10.000 years.

A weapon to surpass metal gear

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It's not really vidya, but a long time ago I watched this anime called Kiddy Grade, where the protagonists switched out their future laser pistols for a COP .357 derringer and another modern pistol, I forget the exact make. I remember the derringer because the COP .357 is really distinct. I never understood why they did that, but I honestly appreciate it now.

The only guns in 3 that looked good were the ones based on real weapons. The R91 was just a CETME, the 10mm pistol had the back end of a Desert Eagle with a blocky front end, etc. In 4, you have the comically oversized 10mm pistol, ugly as sin pipe guns, the combat rifle, chambered in .45ACP, and combat shotgun looking exactly the same, the hideous and useless Institute lasers, I could go on.
Those were the only good designs in 4.

>2,800 yds.
youtu.be/xHut9HpY7dY?t=494

>Space Marines have integrated autoaim.
guided weapons can fire around corners and kill people so far away you can't even see them, warhammer tech is literally behind IRL tech

Fallout 4 is a better game.

thats like saying dog shit is better than cat shit

>designed by an actual firearms company
>standard issue rifle of NATO in the near future

Most reasonably real looking firearm from the future in this thread

Underrated kek

>Underrated
it was literally posted 5 minutes ago

and many times already

>guided weapons can fire around corners
Like? What weapon is capable of that?
>kill people so far away you can't even see them
Space Marines can do that even without their in built aim from more than 2 km
>warhammer tech is literally behind IRL tech
Not in every department.
Even with the most basic tech that was in that picture they can fuck us over thousands of time

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If that other user is to be believed, not anymore, but it used to be. Their shit literally does whatever they think it does, and the only reason it doesnt do more is because they're dumb and don't have much of an imagination.

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>loved the HE on this thing
>was afraid of wasting the ammo and wound up hoarding it the entire game
Every damn time

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Who would have thought? Letting cancer grow on your weapons makes them shit.
Is there even a single good Infested weapon? And I don't mean viable, I MEAN GOOD!

Pipe guns are pre-war.

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>What weapon is capable of that?
cruise missile
>Space Marines can do that even without their in built aim from more than 2 km
no they can shoot 24 inches

it's always been like that, you were taking it too literally
"it works because we believe it works" isn't the same as "whatever we believe happens"

I'll play devil's advocate for a second to say that it's likely these modelers are told to make new guns every time, so specially in more realistic settings, these people are asked to reinvent all these designs, meaning that they either go for technical accuracy, and they're fired because their designs look all the same, or they say fuck it, and do stupid shit that wouldn't work in real life under the rule of cool.

I like that they replaced modern detachable box magazines with high capacity assault cassettes.

It's always fucking Detroit

And lets not forget, having too many circuits on your anything literally invites deamons ready to posses it and fuck up your day.

>cruise missile
I wanted an example in infantry ground weaponary since Tanks and other(not all) machines got that already
>no they can shoot 24 inches
Nope that is an actual feat where he scored a headshot from that distance.

you're a fucking moron, bullpup is no indication of left or right handed design, and the pic used in OP is using a P90's grip, which is ambidextrous by design anyway

>steal golden revolver from boss in the DLC
>starts REEEEEEing at you with an unmodded machine pistol
he blinged up that gun only for a robot ninja to steal it and never use it

gayest post in this thread.

What is a P90 : the game : the thread

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Futuristic looking revolvers or "hand cannons" are one of the few things I enjoy when it comes to weaponry in these games.

>but mechanically is much less complex
You're a fucking retard. Just because it's a one single piece (which is I agree, incredibly impressive) doesn't mean it's less complex.
If something happens that can't be fixed by a wind-up, you replace entire magic clock-work thingy inna field with a spare. And if that one also borks, you just die. Because if you have this rifle your only objective is to shit out as much lead as possible. It's literally the ideology behind its design.
And what is it so hard to understand in "fire 2 rounds with recoil of 1"?

Uh, no poptarts. There, it's shit.

If a metal box that is filled with loose bolts and scrap metal can shoot projectiles that are "are no less effective than other, more advanced side arms" because they think it can, why couldn't a bigger box filled with loose bolts shoot nukes if they think it could?

aircraft and cruise missiles render large scale ground warfare irrelevant
tanks are basically obselete in the 21st century

I've seen videos of people hammering bullets and they shoot as as expected, no reason why that wouldn't

I can see you won't last long, here.

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Because their perfect aim gets obstructed by nimble space elf ninjas, green niggers unconciously warping reality to make your aim effectively worse, hightech chinks with auto dodge, magic users that don't have to explain shit and uh big bugs that just really have good reflexes okay?

pretty soon its just gonna be my drone army vs your drone army

>call the marine base
>scream "alexa, fire underbarrel grenade launcher" into the phone
>base explodes

The SCAR's grenade launcher might be bulky as hell but it looks great

no the roll to hit vs imperial guard is just the same as the other races

LASER CHEESE

Don't forget the amplifier

how does that trigger work? Is the screw loose enough that you can pull it slightly but not enough that it can fall out or what?

Shame SCARs cost so much, even their underslung GLs look cool as fuck.

Aircraft cant get close if there is enough artillery.
Even meele can make sense in the universe simply because firearms are so advance that it would be more efficient to counter it in close combat rather than standing there and shooting impenetrable armors.

Let me fulton this to my Mother Base.

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>talking smack about bolt actions
rude

they feel unconsciously sry for them or uhm don't try as hard.

The laser musket would have made much more sense if regular, fully functioning laser weapons weren't common as dirt.

In fact, the gp34 is still more efficient.

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But those weapons can't crank lasers into a glass jar and then shoot it all at once.

>Widow is just a giant railgun with a strapped on scope
I love it

That was a shit film

*fires 60 rounds a second*

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guided bombs ARE artillery, aircraft are just a means of propelling them even further
dumb anti-aircraft guns didn't even work in WW2 let alone now
warfare is fought at a range longer than anyone can see these days
infantry are only there to capture the objective

Did you say... RAILGUN ?

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>no Kreigsmen Lasgewehr
Shaking my head

The SCAR has been growing on me lately.
>used it in BF4 recently, kino
>use it in R6S, get called a faggot for playing as Blackbeard

They are always rather shit in games with this one being one of the few good ones but I just fucking love lever action rifles.

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Why is the Acog on the HK416 so far forward from the mounting point?

>Talking about looks
>Slavfags start shouting about efficiency
Yes we all know the AK is very reliable and very widespread. Don't you have a nightly jerk off over the nugget to go do?

>here's your future gun bro

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Why the fuck did murka ever even go with the fucking ar pattern anything when they already had an FN factory making them MG's domestically inside the continental us, AND the FNC fucking exists?

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>uses standard "laserbox"
>you need to wind it up to fire
>still uses MF cells
It's like it was made retarded on purpose. Oh wait, it actually was.

Thanks, I love it. Shame about ammo count tho.

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I mean really just the Borderlands games in general

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Pipe guns were in fallout 2.
I don't have a problem with them because of that

>why did a country want its service rifle to be domestically designed and produced

there was 1 pipe gun
in fo4 over half the gun variants are pipe guns, literally

Heres your Answer. . .

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Is that that thing from Psycho Pass?

>rule of cool
>problem
Only /k/ autists get triggered by guns that aren't designed as realistic as possible. Everybody else just likes cool. Why cater to the few?

That's where a mounting point must be placed, and you need place to put your eye before the Acog.

Because you can have cool looking guns that are also believable. A lot of these designs are like having a fictional car in a game has wheels on its roof.

Crysis did them right. There's rule of cool, and there's the over-saturated version that too much.

>search for Warframe weps
>2/4 of them are laser weapons so it doesn't matter how they're shaped

I'm a little disappointed in y'all. Hell, half the weapons don't even have triggers or visible magazines for how much they can actually shoot.

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Because FN was shit at making assault rifles until the end of the Cold War.
>inb4 muh FAL
We didn't want a battle rifle, and if we did we had no shortage of M14s lying around.

warframe is fucking gay thats why

>that Alad V trailer where Excalibur reloaded a Soma in reverse
I don't even care anymore man, this train has been out of control for too long.

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Not even a slav fag, just a western european who got up early. Also, in guerilla, efficiency is everything and we don't care about looks.

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It was a good film just because the company president was autistic enough to program in assembly

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Yeah it's the Dominator

Also 99% of them are shit, so there is that.

based an redpilled

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I see what you did there.

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Just because you can't take it apart fully in the field doesn't make it less complex either. Like I said in the next post, it's literally just a steam locomotive's wheel. The AN-94 is vastly more complex mechanically. Good luck carrying spares for each individual part for that gun, or even taking it apart without spilling parts everywhere.

Where is the prozessor or the RAM?

>Western European
>Guerrilla
Vete a dormir Federico

Good thing that they mostly fight for objectives and the actual large battles are fought with help from tanks, aircraft and orbital bombardment.

Needs more pointless creases and patterns.

The weebs at SilencerCo liked the design a little too much

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Because we only adopted the M240 and M249 (our first FN weapons) in the mid 80s, long after the AR pattern was firmly established.
>Because FN was shit at making assault rifles until the end of the Cold War.
Shit at? They never even tried until the early 80s.
>We didn't want a battle rifle, and if we did we had no shortage of M14s lying around.
Uh yeah we did, that's literally why we adopted the m14. To edge out the T48 (FAL), which was a foreign design winning our trials, which made nationalist faggots butthurt.

>tanks are basically obselete in the 21st century
Please do go and spout your bullshit on /k/, i want a good laugh.

there's the cyst and lesion

FEAR 3 was underrated, 2 is overrated as shit.

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Implying living in France isn't living guerilla against Israel.

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That post had nothing to do with FEAR. Also you're wrong.

>They never even tried until the early 80s.
You never heard of the FN CAL? Thing was a piece of shit whose use was relegated to a few uppity former colonies.
>that's literally why we adopted the m14
I was referring to the whole ordeal regarding the M16's adoption in the 60s, not the trials to replace the M1.
>which was a foreign design winning our trials
It was mechanically more complex, heavy and the gas system was deemed inferior to the M14's. We didn't just reject it because it was a Belgian design.

>please show me the fabled musician who plays his instruments flipped

???

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To be fair, large square barrel shrouds/fronts are cool looking as fuck.

The most generic weapon design possible, holy shit that's boring.

Game?

>some guy named Artyom becomes king of the northern wasteland because he managed to pull a working nugget out of fossilised block of cosmoline

leave him user
he's likely a zoomer hooked on mumble rap or some similar shit

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Once you run out of ammo it can become a brick

>We're the medics, get down on the ground now!

>Detroit
oh Todd

Cassettes you say?
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here's your future gun, son

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Just eject out the bottom or the front.

No, he's confused by the gooseneck mount for the ACOG. That's the ACOG mount that the UK MOD uses on the L85 after they ditched the SUSAT sight. Weird to use it on an HK 416, but some guys who use gas masks use high mounts like this to get a cheek weld (or jaw weld, as it may be).

I have 0 knowledge of gun designs and guns in general since I'm not murrican and they're illegal here.
However, a lot of the more 'advanced tech' guns IRL look like absolutele plastic crap to me. However, a trained soldier could probably tell what all the bits are for and why it looks like a fucking toy. I always assume it's the same with 'futuristic' weapons. Gun-nuts think it's retarded design, but that's because they know nothing of the 'future tech' that might be completely rational. They're as retarded in regards to future guns as I am to current day guns.

The difference being that all these 'future guns' were designed by people today who just don't know anything about guns.

Or, you just don't understand the tech behind it. Maybe the guns are intricately designed by actual weapon experts to reflect a future where things are different. You'd probably shit on it anyway. Because that's how the internet works.

it was entertaining but the plot sucked, and matt damon sucked. I liked sharlto copley's over the top character

For example; and >lel that's retarded, the magazine doesn't feed into the chamber
>actually it's a battery and doesn't need to feed into the chamber
>...

Pretty much how these threads always go.

Never attribute to malice, etc. It's Bethesda, user.

>Or, you just don't understand the tech behind it
You really think the retards who shat out things like Fallout 3's combat shotgun were really thinking of some advanced tech to justify its design? No, they made them to look cool and don't give a shit about how they would actually function because none of them have ever even seen a gun in real life.

Okay user. What about; ?

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I didn't make those posts and I've seen this argument a hundred times in threads like this already, I already knew that was a battery.

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>one person mistakenly shits on an energy weapon
>Pretty much how these threads always go
Guns are designed to be as simple and straightforward as mechanically possible. If a gun has some sort of magical elevator that can feed rounds from one end to the other because of magical tech that exists nowhere else, or have rounds/mechanisms phase through solid material to be fired, then the design is still fucking retarded when you can use that tech to do more effective and efficient stuff.

Why post Trudeau's father?

Yeah, the same dude that worked on Elysium worked on Infinite Warfare as well.
skul4aface.blogspot.com/

If the stock is so short how does the bolt move?