Roses are red

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm big boss
And so are you

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but I thought Raiden was us?

He's the two of us. Together.

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When did Venom get the tape? Towards the end of the first Metal Gear?

The tape was within you all along.

Raiden is at first a reflection of players with a wannabe-Snake attitude for the first half of the Plant, but then Raiden is established as his own character after his backstory reveal.

this ending sucked. it was a rushed way to have a endgame twist. Kojima can't write.

There;s like an eight year gap between Phantom Pain and Metal Gear 1. I don't get why Big Boss gave him a tape of an operation that isn't going to happen until almost a decade.
But I'm not Big Boss, so I'm sure he had his reasons.

maybe the real tape was the friends we made along the way

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the real twist is when you realize THE TRUTH isn't actually the truth

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Pretty sure most people figured that out before the game even dropped/

Playing through it for the first time now,
It's heavily foreshadowed through many scenes.
You're retarded.

Yeah, I'm Big Boss.

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I mean the tapes are actually fakes produced by cypher to manipulate venom, it's literally mgs2 all over again

I want to fuck Big Boss!

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Yeah, MGSV is a straight up copy of 2.
How many similarities can you name?

So I'm sure, BiBo, the last thing you, BiBo, want from me is to wish there was nothing but MGS threads and BiBo... BiBo.

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He's one sexy warmonger.

>you insert name and birthdate in both games
>both have a time skip
>part 1 you play as real snake
>part 2 happens after an incident and you play as a fake snake
>both are being manipulated
>both ends with a cliffhanger
>the cliffhanger is exactly the same, liquid escaping with a metal gear
>both are supposed to be the last metal gear solid, this will be revealed to be a lie
>both fake snakes ends up becoming cyborg ninja, venom is actually the birth and training gray fox as a cyborg

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>the next game doesnt resolve the cliffhanger but instead goes back a generation to show the origin story of the previous legendary soldier

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>after the prologue, the short blond haired womans child is taken by the evil puppetmasters

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The greatest, terrifying, warmongering villainous cunt in the MGS universe looks like someone who would invite children to a free candy van and murder/rape them.

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His MGSV appearance is a drastic change from his previous appearances in 3 and PW, sure, but what did you expect, him looking like Superman?

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based

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I'd be more than down with a WWI game starring the Boss

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almost everyone would, including kojima.
also worth noting that he was scouting normandy during mgsv production

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keep in mind that the boss would be pregnant during the game, and have her child stolen by evil organization via c-section by the end of the game. and would be accompanied by the psychic guy who can contact the dead. so much of it lines up with death strandings promotional material.

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>by the end of the game.
it canonically happens during D Day so probably closer to the middle/beginning

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MGR Raiden > MGS2 Raiden

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>rising was supposed to be about saving sunny from area 51

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i havent even played rising and i know that would've been better

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Not being interested in post-Patriots MG

Rising is one of the best games and it isn't even really Metal Gear. I mean, Ocelot saved the world from the Patriots, but people kept playing their games and even took them to the next level of fucked up.

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why was everyone alright with letting some fucking nobody
Medic be Big Boss? How were they supposed to know his skills were able to match the Boss’? I mean the Boss is supposed to be the best, how could they leave the hands of everything in ‘venom’ snakes hands?

He was the real Big Boss
He cared about his men more than anything. The entire legend of big boss and wanting to do everything for the soldiers is from Venom

Real real big boss didn't care about anyone.

Is it possible to lure a bear into an enemy encampment and watch it go nuts on the soldiers?

The medic is a lie.

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It wouldn't have worked with what Platinum was trying to do. Having it being a "hard prequel" rather than "just a spin-off" would have made the action far too jarring. MGS4 Raiden's capabilities don't even begin to hold a candle to MGR Raiden's.

>three years have passed
>still almost no shota mantis porn

A lot of Big Boss' legend comes from members of MSF scattered all over the world telling stories about him. Those stories became heavily embellished over time. The reason Big Boss became a legend is primarily due to that, as well as rumors regarding his activities during Operation Snake Eater and the Peace Walker incident. Operation Snake Eater in particular was probably the main biggest contributor to his legend: He defeated the legendary Cobra Unit and the Mother of Special Forces, the Boss. That alone cemented him as the "Greatest Soldier of the 20th Century".

Nothing Venom really does can compare to Operation Snake Eater. It's similar to why Solid Snake became a "legendary hero", because what he accomplished in Shadow Moses was considered fucking crazy.

>Make Metal Gear thread
>Use the worse Metal Gear game in history as the OP
>Fails just like the game itself and Konami
Let.
It.
Die.
Or are you one of those faggots from /r/MetalGearSolid that can't let go.

Man, this game was really dissapointing. It made me quite the entire franchise. Not even going to buy DS, I don't want to be dissapointed again.

relax we'll have our general back in /vg/ once ds drops

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You also have to remember that while Venom Snake was expanding Diamond Dogs, Big Boss was also creating Outer Heaven simultaneously. After that, he'd also build Zanzibar Land, giving Outer Heaven to Venom. So it's not as if Big Boss was jerking off for all that time. And unlike Venom, Big Boss didn't have Kaz and Ocelot supporting him.

So was Zadarnov really Skullface? I read a theory and it made a lot of sense. Is it generally accepted or just a crazy fan theory?

see you there in 2025

What level of kike is Konami for doing all the FOB bullshit they did? Like selling you insurance for your FOB in the same patch where they moves 90% of your resources online,

>Towards the end of the first Metal Gear?
No. Big Boss is the one that made Outer Heaven. So that wouldn't make sense. If we take it literally he seems to send it in 1984 after XOF is dealt with and the coast is clear.

As for the Operation Intrude thing: I think it's just a kind of symbolic bit of fanservice.

The medic is a deactivated Bloody Brad. In order to reactivate it, a signal must be sent to its processor. The trigger of the signal is the death of Big Boss.

>After that, he'd also build Zanzibar Land, giving Outer Heaven to Venom
He didn't create ZL until after Outer Heaven was destroyed.

No.

I genuinely thought it was a cute little girl until I found out it was just that bald fuck Mantis.

You are officially the most annoying MGS fan. OP has passed the torch down to you.

can confirm

based

Raiden is also Big Boss.

how did they give him an arm?

Need me a Metal Gear mecha game

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>kojima implies his fans will be murdered by solid snake

>WW1
OK. If anyone can camo-crawl through Verdun it's the Boss

Operation snake eater wasn't disclosed until 2014.

Youtube comment tier.