If it's been said once it's been said a millions times, but

Because it's not a fucking Dark Souls game you utter fucking moron, why would it need any of that shit? Every one of you slack jawed trogs is parroting the same fucking thing that it has no builds or leveling up or PvP or co-op and that's because it isn't a fucking Dark Souls game. Is every game that doesn't have all of those things automatically shit now? Jesus christ you retards are insufferable. It's entirely possible that Sekiro will be a shit game, but not because it isn't exactly like Dark Souls. Judge the game on it's own fucking merits. Stop comparing it to Dark Souls, it's not fucking Dark Souls. Fuck.

>it's not dark souls
>activision invites every souls eceleb to play and promote it
what did they mean by this?

I don't think you quite understand what it takes to be a developer or the money it costs to host multiplayer servers.

Basically if you've even an ounce of intellect you know as a developer that there are more pirate faggots on pc than there are purchasers so this is from asking.

Are you down with us? prove it.

And once people have proven it their money will go towards games with multiplayer servers.

Because they're initially like condo shares.

So anyone saying this is a step back is a fucking Mongoloid for not realising what caused it.

>Because it's not a fucking Dark Souls game

Yeah, I know. I already said that. Learn to read you inbred fucking mong.

REMINDER to TURN OFF your updates when you get Sekiro to experience the full difficulty of it. All of the Soulsborne games get nerfed post-launch, and since this one has no multiplayer, there is zero reason to not turn off updates until the inevitable expansion/DLC.

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>reddit spaceing
get a load of this faggot expecting anyone to read that shit.

>needing to co-op to beat boss

Your gonna break at the first enemy in this game

Not really, the lack of a level up system just allows them to focus on other aspects of gameplay in terms of difficulty tuning and providing challenge, not necessarily better or worse, just a different kind of game, lack of NG+ kinda sucks but without stats I don't see why they'd have it anyway, maybe there will be an unlockable "hard mode" instead of NG+?

As long as you solo the bosses in your NG run, who fucking cares how much summoning you do in NG+? You're there to have fun and PvP, not be a tryhard faggot.

>All of the Soulsborne games get nerfed post-launch
Except for Giant Dad in DaS, Faith builds in II, Dark Sword in III, etc.

Why do that when you can easily just delete patches

>Faith builds in II
Are you having a giggle? Faith builds in II blow chunks PvE.
>Dark Sword
Literally NO ONE uses the dark sword anymore.

it's by From so it's a Souls game just like how Left Alive had Shinkawa's art so it was an MGS game because that's the level of intelligence here

That's the fucking point, try to read. The difficulty getting nerfed is the issue.

based retard

>making a game in a different genre is a step back
Kill yourself

But his post was one of the only times someone actually used "reddit spacing" appropriately. And you're still using "based" wrong you wigger.

>still using based wrong
>my first post in this thread
based retard

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Yeah but come on, we'd all have liked a Bloodborne 2 or DaS4 instead of Serkio, right? Can you imagine how hyped Yea Forums would be right now is DaS4 was releasing in 9 days?

Nobody wanted a new Tenchu game. Absolutely nobody.

Welcome to devs making the game more simple for the mainstream. It happens to every one sooner or later.

are you new?

I hope your whole post is ironic.

i think it's wrong to assume that from soft was pressured into making the game more action oriented by higher ups. from soft has such great brand recognition and value that they could do pretty much anything they wanted and gain attention. they could've made sekiro a stealth game if they wanted but they thought action would be more interesting and they weren't wrong.

Except that it was confirmed that it was originally planned to be a Tenchu game that got changed somewhere down the line, so yeah.

only subhumans want another call of duty or assassins creed

right, and that change can come from the development team's own feelings rather than executive's demanding something be changed. that is my point. miyazaki has enough clout that he can withstand executive meddling. he can do whatever he wants because his name carries so much weight, his direction is so well respect.

>it's not souls i know that
>still list souls like things
The game has 4 endings btw so NG+ is most def gonna be a thingthing. And getting autistic about a single player hame in this modern age is hilarious.

Fucking hell, user; do you think you could move the goalposts any further apart there? Or is 50 million miles enough?

When the fuck did I ever mention CoD or Asscreed? And yeah, I'm guessing most people, if they were honest, would like a Bloodborne 2 or DaS4 over Sekiro.

You're the same fag that complained that bloodborne was a thing before dark souls 3 got announced. Developers aren't slaves.

Spaceing?
Reddit?
Are you aware that computers have return buttons purely for placing breaks in sentences and it has nothing to do with Reddit it's something known as grammar and even rushed and written shit looks better than this rushed written shit in one giant Asperger's tier iPhone text clump?

you stupid fucking nigger
how do you think we ended up where we are with games like asscreed, cod, and ff? because dumb faggots like you were constantly saying "more of the same, please"

kill yourself

>Doing something you're good at is being a slave

You need look no further than Bungie.

You'll have to forgive my cynicism when I'm inclined to wonder if a game that has Tenchu-esque mechanics with Souls game systems added into it was done more as a means to secure sales rather than any sense of creativity. Because that isn't particularly creative, if you ask me.

I never played multiplayer dork souls so it makes no difference to me

But are there cute waifus like in Nioh?
That's all care about

Congratulations! You missed out on a really fun part of the game.

Yeah big M but a gun to their head and forced them to make sekiro

>Wanting more of the same stuff you like is bad

Fuck off.

>lowered difficulty
>autism from spergs online
No thanks

>not a souls game
>is therefore missing exploitable invasions with horrifying netcode on cheap servers

BROS?????????
I CAN'T???
I CAN'T SHITpoST AOBOUT THIS?!?!?!??!!
BROS???
HELP ME

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I think you may have missed my point.

I wanted a new Tenchu game. Stop attempting to generalize and speak for others because you're incapable of venturing outside of major franchises. Seek therapy.

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What the fuck are you even blabbering about?

>wanting nothing new is good
We get it you like to coop with your fursona buddies. There's a million other games for that. Go play anthem or whatever live service game the west is pushing and let a developer make a single player game if they want.

That's because Activision is retarded, and also only the publisher in the west. They think it'll only sell over here due to Souls - and while there's truth to that, I think the game can stand on its own merits. It looks f u n .

since the game has no levels or builds what would be the point of a NG+ anyway?

>implying anyone will give a shit 5 days after launch because it doesn't have the sony exclusive artificial hype machine behind it

Nah, man, I just like DaS. I love the adventure of it all. All the weapons, armours, environments, etc etc. All three games are great in my eyes. There isn't a single one I don't love.

Why wouldn't I want a fourth instalment? Of course I would.

>no levels
>no builds
welcome to a week ago dipshit. you DO level and you DO have different ways to spec your character via three separate skill trees.

>I know it’s not dark souls
>but it doesn’t have all these dark souls features

Are you fucking retarded? I for one am ultra hyped for this spiritual tenchu game.

No Ultrawide support
No fucking buy

Of course it's not a step back because what we get is
>enemies actually balanced and tailored for a particular playstyle
>gameplay that reflects a character's personality like most character action games
>bosses that are more unique due to being able to make assumptions about the capabilities of the player
More linear games have their advantages.

Any reason this game isn’t available to preorder on Amazon in Canada?

>Silky smooth 21fps
>The game looks like shit

I'm sorry, but if ID can get nuDoom to run at 60fps on their engine, there's absolutely no reason on this earth From can't make Serkiro run at a steady 30fps there engine. It LITERALLY looks like a 7th gen game.

nooooo broooos why from software refuses to make the same game for the sixth time!

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If you had friends you'd realize it's fun to play with them, incel

because it isnt progressive enough

sorry user

>skill trees

It's been confirmed you can get every single upgrade in the game in one run. There's no "builds."

>started development as Tenchu
>people just want more souls trash

Fuck off, I want Tenchu and armored core back. So I'll take this

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>no co-op or PVP
fine by me
>no builds
there are confirmed skill trees and if you cant max out all of them in the game won’t that lead to different builds?
>no NG+
don’t know if that is confirmed or not, I like NG+ but it’s always felt like a wasted opportunity, at least in DaS2 you get lord souls from certain bosses in NG+ which make unique weapons, otherwise it isn’t a huge deal

>UHMUHGUD PVP SO INNOVATIVE
>LE SOAPSTONES
>LE EBIN TROLL MESSAGES
>HEHEH INVISIBLE WALL HERE WHERE THERE'S NOT LE UPBOAT
>MUH 200 SWORDS THAT HAVE THE SAME MOVESET BUT AT LEAST IT LOOKS DIFFERENT
>MUH PRETTY DRESSES

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you can also max out every dark souls stat in a single run

i notice a lack of proof in your post sir

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Theoretically, but not practically. You still have to make a choice in how your character will play.

alright, now think about what you just said for a minute. maybe take an extra minute or two. we know you're slow user, it's okay

After 2 ng+ its fun to try co-op lol

>No NG+
There's NG+ you fucking mongrel.

Ive heard you can't max out any of them in one run though

Yes until you just fucking max out the stats as much as you care too in one run then splatter anything in front of you with any build
If you don't like that build? Just respec bro, whatever

even looking it at as a non-Souls game, it still doesn't look very good.

>put down summon sign with overpowered weapon
>annihilate a boss for multiple players
>rake in literally millions of souls in a couple hours
>not practical
I mean come in i thought coop was the quintessential cornerstone of souls after all

I guess they'd have to set an arbitrary limit as to how many times you can buy talents if you earn them with experience points, otherwise it seems like you could just grind for them but would probably take way too long. Especially with the death penalty system

Ok cool. You don't think they're tired of making tje same thing for over 10 years. It's branching out but one tjat feels familiar

There are 4 endings with things most likely tied to completion. You're so full of shit it hurts me responding to you.

>no dedicated attack button
>parries automatically
>can only move around by jumping or grapple-jumping
>always locked on, even when noone is around
>demo is 90% of the game
>asian
>3 boss fights
>second half of the game does not exist
>can't enter menu, only exit
>YOOOOOOOO music only
>only one outfit, even enemies wear the same outfit as you
>final boss is a regular enemy encounter against your mentor
>when you die you just get up from the dead on the same spot, this works faster if you mash all buttons and roll both sticks randomly

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>demo is 90% of the game
>asian
>3 boss fights
>second half of the game does not exist
OH NO NO NO NO HOW WILL SEKEKEKIRO BROS RECOVER???????

I hope you can rebind the controls
attack on R1 always felt kind of weird to me

>I wanted a new tenchu
Holy shit I feel you. I wanted one so bad I was livid when sekiro gameplay finally got shown. The second I saw that shit I knew it wasn't going to be a new tenchu spiritual successor. Shitposters meme that its tenchu-lite mixed with souls but fuck that its just watered down souls with a new mechanic that was already way better executed in Nioh. The idea of posture is to keep the player in a constant flux of combat but Nioh already perfected that shit with the ki pulse skill ceiling.

FUCK fromsoft SO HARD for squatting on super fucking based ass IPs like Tenchu and Armored Core and doing FUCK ALL with them for years so soulsfaggots can get their mediocre combat fixes. Its been 7 fucking years since the last TRUE AC, 11 since the last (mediocre) Tenchu. MGS is over, Stealth has its chance in the limelight again. I want to feel like a real fucking ninja again. I want to tear shit the fuck up with a robo thats the perfect blend of super and real. Fuck all this grimdark character action bullshit.

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Why is there so much shitposting on this game that none of us have tried yet? I know Activision is involved, but did anything in particular happen or is it just Soulsfag autism?

>or is it just Soulsfag autism?
Yes

that but there is also a prevailing attitude that new game = bad. look at any thread for a new or upcoming game and you see a lot of the same shitposting. i'd say a lot of it is the same guy(s).

It's people mad that they have to wait another three or four years for their shitty PvP fix.

but dark souls 3 is still active

(:

>but fuck that its just watered down souls

The combat looks far better than both Souls and Bloodborne.

Daily reminder to kill yourself, OP

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nah
the constant hopping and grapple-jumping around looks annoying already

>goalposts

>No NG+
user, NG+ has been confirmed moths ago, update your shitpost info pelase.

Only Yea Forums would try to spin having less options as being a better thing. If you defend an unfinished product these companies and gonna take advantage of it and give you less and less every game. It's your responsibility to have some standards and not just accept every half assed project sold to you.

That's not 'watered-down', that's 'I don't like that the combat has gotten more complex'.

It just needs to be fun.

>less options
>objectively more options in combat
oh wait you mean less frilly dresses for you to wear while you coop with your tranny friends
kill yourself

This game doesn't have NG+?

>believing what you read on Yea Forums
pathetic

I'm fine with having fewer options if the options that are available are actually good ones. How many absolutely fucking garbage weapons and spells are there in the average Souls game? That being said, I do prefer the Bloodborne/Nioh approach of having a small pool of useful weapons rather than restricting the player to one or two, but without having actually played it and seeing if I get bored of the katana and arm attachments I can't make that criticism of Sekiro just yet.

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Based
It does, OP is just a lying shitposter trying to cause trouble.

Pre-release bloodborne shitposting was peak shitposting.
Prove me wrong.

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I'm not that dude you two were replying to, no goalpoasts have been moved. I'M the dude pissed off Fromsoft was making this shit to appease the fucking souls crowd while still sitting on two magnificent IPs collecting fucking dust. Fine, I concede, I won't call it "watered down" because one or two ridiculously simple mechanics got added and the game technically plays different. It is in fact, in the most menial way possible, a "more complex" game, but most importantly, in the same fucking genre. Whatever. Thats not what I give a shit about. Its got a snowballs chance in hell to somehow feel and play better than a 2 year old game that already took the genre to the next mechanical level in a way this one can only has a very thin hope to similarly accomplish. Point blank period its still a grimdark character action game in the same vein as souls due to genre similarity alone and NOT a fucking Tenchu or AC game.

I've been hearing the same bullshit ass rumors of a new AC for the past 4 years now but hopefully thats FINALLY gonna go somewhere soon, but From needs to at least sell rights to Tenchu to TN, at least they'd know what the fuck to do with it.

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Dude I didn't know Vergil posted on Yea Forums sup man

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that was mostly just because of sony, sekiro was fated to have worse shitposting just by being multiplatform

Based
Op is a human garbage faggot

how many more meme builds left in you? :)

only a year or so of DaS3 invasions
I'm sure you'll manage :^)

>111 posts
>53 posters

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I've always had Australian internet so the PvE focus is perfect. Always hated my weaponfus being nerfed and limited out of consideration for a system that I never used.

>114 posts
>55 unique posters

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>implying that isnt most threads on Yea Forums

wow a discussion. You expected 1 post per person?

armored core need a whole revamp retard. I get it you're thebtype to buy anything and think V was good but it needs better systems.

I thought we're all supposed to engage in drive by shitposting

How mad would Armored Core fags be if they finally announce a new game but it's a Battle Royale lootbox game

>No co-op or PvP
Good. What a complete waste of time that shit was. Imagine if they completely focused on PvE in their past games instead of wasting time trying to balance their shitty PvP. Maybe we wouldn't have had shitty bosses like Deacons of the Deep or Hemwick Witch.
>No builds
Good. Fuck RPGs.
>No NG+
The fuck you talking about? They confirmed NG+.
>It's not Dark Souls, I know that.
Good. Souls is trash.
>But doesn't this seem like a massive step back for From Software as a developer?
No.

i dont how after rehash souls

Quite the contrary, PC keks and Xbots were seething so hard about Bloodborne they continue to fume and shitpost about a game they never played to this day. And they'll seethe even harder when From's next actual Souls game is a Sony exclusive.

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Fromsoft doesnt make bad games.

I preordered the game and took off work to play :)

>play all these games blind
>always come back to Yea Forums several days later and see shit I missed
Didn't do Ash Lake, Archdragon and some optional bosses on my first runs. I think Bloodborne was the only game I actually ended up finding everything on my own.

I imagine there will be some random tree hanging off the map leading to some cool area that I won't find because I didn't look down in a certain spot.

I wanna complete 100 percent blind but I don't want to miss the launch buzz and come back to discussion when the contrarians have already started shitting on it.

...

>No co-op
OH NO I'LL ACTUALLY HAVE TO BEAT THE GAME MYSELF NOW

>No NG+

I haven't heard of this, but it's the only thing that I don't like. Ever since I played Chrono Trigger, I've wanted NG+ in everything.

>old man yells at cloud

It's a popular series that splits opinions. Some people that never played the series come to shitpost. Some people who try to justify not buying it come to shitpost to feel better about their decision.

The threads before Bloodborne were even worse. All those PConlyfags (the majority of Yea Forums) shitting on a game they couldn't get to play.

I hope NG+ isn't like DS where it gets stronger every time.

It eventually gets tedious to play at anything about NG++

ARMORED

CORE

>no co-op
good
>no PVP
good if well done but Fromsoft has never done it well so not much missed
>no builds
so a more straight up action game, probably not much of a reduction in complexity and better opportunity to design more complex/harder enemies around a specific playstyle
>no NG+
good, the game should throw everything it has at you the first time through. without PVP, levelups and the necessity of arranging PVP through specific in-game areas there is no point to NG+ at all.

Fly's? Are you retarded?

You must be over 18 to post here, edgy faggot.

Did anyone see that huge mist cloud of blood you can perform on an enemy when you deathblow? You can hide in the cloud of blood after and pick off the group.

Stuff like that has me hyped that there are so many awesome skills to unlock for insane combat.

...

Do you mean forward?

>no co op
Fucking finally
>No builds
it aint about the builds
>No NG+
thats unfortunate

it will have all that with future updates and you'll suck their dick and say shit like "they do listen to the fans" when they could've added this on launch day.

>i know its not a dark souls game but why isnt it exactly like dark souls?
fuck off retard

you can't blame people. From Software have been making pretty much only souls games for the past decade on the dot, this year. thats 10 years where theyve made a single type of game, which is based on another series of games they made for the previous 10 years.

From have been making "The From Software Game" since 1994.

The difference is they stopped making anything else when souls got really big.

From the "big picture" view, its not that strange, the last Armored Core game came out in 2013, while Dark Souls 2 came out in 2014, Bloodborne the following year, and Dark Souls 3 the year after that, with evidence that all 3 of them possibly overlapped in development at some point, so all their manpower was going there, and anything else was on the backburner,

But from the outside public view, they became "the dark souls company"

So now they want to do something that is NOT dark souls at all, which is something they used to do anyway.

Game might be shit, it might be good, we'll just have to see

Even though I'm fine with FS breaking out of their comfort zone, what kind of game is it supposed to be?

>No co-op or PvP
>No builds
>No NG+

isn't an issue, but even basic action games like the Musou series offer stuff like multiple characters, different weapons, upgradeble/unlockable moves etc.

I havent seen much of Sekiro, but what little I've seen looks like an anemic Ninja Gaiden.
Not trying to shit on it, I'm honestly curious what crowd this is supposed to draw.

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Have you forgotten one thousand and one things games have besides the things you're bickering about? Dumb anime poster.

Part of the reason i liked Dark Souls was because it was pretty original. The thing I like is originality. I am hyped for a new From game. When those guys make a game they’re excited about, it usually turns out good. You would prefer them to keep churning out repetitive sequels. I’m glad they’re not listening to you.

Triggered a nerve there it seems, that wasn't my intention.

>dumb anime poster

wheredoyouthinkweare.tiff

I've heard that Sekiro will have ng plus but oh well.

fuck off retard

>No PVP
Good, DS PVP is overrated anyways and attracted the wrong crowd
>No builds
surprise surprise shitters, no more cheese builds you actually have to have skill!
>No NG+
No comment

Is Sekiro the casual filter we've been waiting for? I think so. Only shitters are complaining about not wanting to be a badass samurai

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>ki pulse skill ceiling
Any retard could time ki pulses, I'm living proof of that. Nioh didn't perfect shit.

I disliked everything you just mentioned so this must be great

It has NG+ and build variety, why would you lie like that? They've said literally months ago that in order to fully level up all your talent trees you would need to continue playing in NG+, that one playthrough is not enough to make the character a jack of all trades.

>But doesn't this seem like a massive step back for From Software as a developer?
No, it seems like your brain has stepped back from being a human to being a neanderthal.
Nothing about multiplayer is inherently good. The rest you lied about.

Except it started as Sekiro, not ever meant to be like Tenchu. This is clearly a masterpiece anyways.

He's lying. Why do all you retards believe the hater cucks lies in every thread? It's been known for ages the game has builds and NG+

It does run at stable 60fps, are you stupid?
IT
HAS
A
LEVEL
UP
SYSTEM

OP IS LYING YOU MORONS
It even has NG+, these fucking retards lie about every single thing they say about Sekiro, get that through your skull already

Why would that matter? Activision has nothing to do with making the game.

It's already pretty damn obvious Sekiro is insanely good, they've shown like 5 hours of the game.
Again, OP is lying. It has build variety (even more than Souls games did, the leveling system in Sekiro is way deeper) and NG+ has been confirmed months ago.

OP lied about everything except no multiplayer. It has builds and NG+.

That's already been proven wrong.

Thank you, at least one person isn't an easily offended manchild.

Will we able to customize loadouts and switch weapons a la DMC/NG/Bayonetta?

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>Co-Op
Co-op was always something for casual players to summon overpowered friends so those same friends could beat the game for them. PvP is a meme born from Dark Souls 1 meme videos, and tryhards on the other end of the spectrum treating Souls pvp like fucking fighting games.

>Builds
In the Souls games your "build" always boiled down to using your main weapon. Magic is useless and the RPG elements were barely there to begin with. Don't mistake aesthetic customization with "builds".

>NG+
It has already been confirmed that Sekiro will have some form of NG+. Whether it will change the game in any significant way, we have to wait and see. Reminder: only Dark Souls 2 changed things in the NG+, while Demon's, DaS1/3 and Bloodborne all simply buff enemy damage and health. In DaS3 you can get new rings, and that's all that changes.

Can you give solid arguments as to why it's a "step back" in ways that aren't just masked versions of "it's not more Dark Souls"?

No, it's the other way around. An article from very long ago claimed that it started as a Tenchu reboot, but then FromSoft devs in the GameInformer reviews much more recently said that it started as Sekiro, that it was an original idea that Miyazaki came to them with and it had nothing to do with Tenchu except taking a bit of inspiration from it in some ways. It was however never going to BE a Tenchu game, ever.

You have two main weapons they said, and lots of off-hand weapons.
Most of the customization comes from your 3 talent trees, which if I remember correctly are called Ninjutsu, Samurai and Prosthetics. You unlock new attacks, moves and passives from these when you level up. You can not get everything in NG, which means you can make different builds on different playthroughs - or if you want, level up everything by continuing in NG+.

So for example, you could make a Ninja focused build, or a gadget/item user focused build, or a very aggressive samurai fighter - or a combination of any of these aspects.

In addition, you can find Esoteric Text scrolls throughout the world that teach you additional new combat arts, you equip these scrolls into a socket in the skill menu to learn the moves.

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Hmm, sounds like Nioh with the Soulsbourne elements reduced. Can't really decide whether that's a good or a bad thing, we'll see.
A friend of mine is hyped as fuck for it, so I can at least get some relatable insight before I consider getting it.

Thank you.

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It's really nothing like Nioh apart from having similar talent trees. And it certainly has a much deeper combat than Souls games ever did, just look at gameplay:
youtube.com/watch?v=B2jAa_8Rk2Y
The combat is built around attack clashing. Actual swordplay, where each side has to deflect each others attacks to survive.

I enjoyed Bloodborne. Will I enjoy Demon/Dark Souls and Nioh and this game?

Sekiro should be the most similar to Bloodborne, DeS maybe the next.

Most likely yes. You'll probably like Demon's Souls more than Dark Souls, since Demons was a source of inspiration for Bloodborne.

i don't care for any of that

Then don't treat like one. Is half life shit now cause it does not have ng+, build variety and pvp?

looks kinda like Nioh though, that game had a similar mechanic. I hope the "Weeb-Spiderman" aspect gets enough love to stay interesting.

You sound like someone who likes nioh

No it didn't? I played through Nioh, it has no sword clashing mechanic. It literally just had dodge rolling like Souls, and blocking like Souls.

The only reason I kept playing these games was coop and build variety so yeah. Ill pirate it maybe

Half Life had multiplayer you dunce.

I don't remember c uckposting being a thing in 2015.

>Posted 6 hours ago
>Look at the thread
FlySouls and MaggotBorne confirmed!

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You dark souls fags are the most cancerous fanbase ever fuck dark sould and eveything it stands for the gameplay isnt even good literally attack roll estus repeat, stuggle with boss ? just summon a fucking raid party seriously go fucking neck ur self

>>No co-op or PvP
Based
>>No builds
Based
>>No NG+
Lie

just preordered it on Xbox One X because of this thread

>Nobody wanted a new Tenchu game. Absolutely nobody.
Maybe nobody in your age bracket, zoomer.

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Just canceled it on Xbox One X, PS4 and on the PC because of this thread.
I will also pirate it and make copies to pass out to people on the street.

What the fuck, is V a fan of Souls?

It's not an action RPG, it's an action-adventure game. Think of it like Onimusha.

just preordered another 5 copies because of this post

>magic is useless
You might want to try actually playing the games before joining a discussion about them.

The only “step back” I could see is that FS is stepping back from the staple elements they’ve come to be known for these past 10 years.
Is that bad or good? We’ll just have to wait and see. At the very least it’s definitely different.

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I'm starting to believe this is why Souls fans are pushing against the game so much. PvP is so bad and the combat so shallow in souls, that it cant possibly be the reason are so angry. It's because glorious Nippon will expose people and do it on the poser's dime.

>No co-op or PvP
>No builds
>No NG+
>souls
good they remove all this flaws

Nice goalposting you faggot

I will find this user and kill him, then wear his skin to game stop to cancel his preorders.
I will then live out his life for him and find happiness and joy making his family proud, I will be a good son/sibbling/father/uncle or whatever else till the day I die a second time. Because of this post.

>No co-op or PvP
awesome, i'm asocial
>No builds
good, minmaxing shitters btfo
>>No NG+
great, will not clog my backlog

The convention floor demo has me hopeful that FROM will make checkpoints less tedious than they were in previous games.

I remember the demo for the Corrupted Monk boss fight had a statue checkpoint like 2-3 seconds before the boss room, which continues a good trend FROM has been having since Dark Souls 3 with bosses like Demon Princes, Gael and Sister Friede all having bonfires right outside their boss rooms.

There's no difficulty in having excessively long salty runbacks like Martyr Logarius or Lothric/Lorian from DaS3. It's just tedium that teaches players how to run past enemies like in a Resident Evil game.

this, but after you kill me I will be reincarnated as the next FromSoft CEO and will greenlight Sekiro 2,3,4,5 and 6

So it is written

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I like how V's gothchick dialogue has become a meme now.

when will the demo come out?

what demo

sekiro

V tell'n the Sekirofags how it is.

This

Disagree, mastering boss runbacks is a thing you learn similar to how you'd learn a level.

my dude they've made the same game 5 times over in the past decade let them experiment a little

I wonder if it'll be better or worse when fromsoft decide to make a game in a completely different genre again at some point

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>No PvP

Thank God

You already learn levels by playing through them. By your logic, runbacks ought to always start you back to the start of a level so that you can really learn the layout of levels.

Some of the current runbacks are literally just straight lines. How do they teach you anything about levels? Running from the lamp to Ludwig didn't teach me anything about levels. It's just one straight line from the lamp to the fog. Running from the bonfire to Firesage Demon didn't teach me anything about levels. It's just one straight line from the bonfire to the fog.

You’ve become such a weird souls freak that you sound like one of the NPCs. I bet you’re one of those fags that hates on 3 because you couldn’t learn to roll.

This is a reasonable analysis. Yea Forums is too reddit to construct reasonable arguments, or in other words, their own opinion.

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Is bad design to have a new checkpoint right before a boss, is better to have a few checkpoints as possible in an area, and then you find shortcuts back to them.
Much better if the area has just 1 checkpoint, and you open a door near the boss that unlocks a shortcut to the start of the zone.