Which do you think more fun, Yea Forums prop planes or jets?
Which do you think more fun, Yea Forums prop planes or jets?
Brody Cox
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James Wilson
Old planes good
New planes bad
Thomas Bell
both
Lincoln King
based
Blake James
Jets for vidya
Props for cute anime grills
Dominic Harris
F U C K PROPSHIT
Tyler Rogers
>prop old, jet new
???
Caleb Mitchell
>still no good submarine game
Lincoln Mitchell
Silent Hunter
Nathan Morales
Nigga what.
>What is Silent Hunter 3 or Silent Hunter 3 with GWX mod
>What is Silent Hunter 4 with mods for the Pacific war
And before you start saying "those are sims" you can edit the options to the point where they are arcadey as heck.
Lucas Allen
Early jets. The speed of a jet but combat of a prop plane, instead of lock-on missiles
Hunter Hall
I'm 12 and what is that plane on the top?
Joshua Hernandez
Super Tucano
Jayden Taylor
Super Tucano.
Dominic James
My problem with early jets is that I think they're ugly.
Christian Walker
Super Tucano
Luke Brown
super tucano
Blake Wood
prop planes are cool and you can easily distinguish them - BF-109/Spitfire/P-51/A6M2, all look different
all jets look the same to me
Brayden Garcia
I like them, there's this certain ruggedness and brutality to them
Ryan Murphy
ur ugleh
Brandon Wright
as much as i like ace combat nothing beats the feeling you get from slicing another plane's wings off in a prop plane or getting an engine kill instead of just blowing them up outright
Jason Flores
Thanks. Just googled it. Wtf Brazil?
Camden Brooks
Super Tucano
Xavier Gutierrez
Depends on how unrealistic it is. For unrealistic fun, I prefer new jets in Ace Combat but for more realistic dogfights, I prefer prop planes.
Sebastian Wilson
Props
There's a reason the only fun jet games are arcadey. Reaalistic jets are a fucking snoozefest and you're dealing more with the plane's systems than with combat.
Grayson Wilson
I want a cute anime grills in prop planes vidya.
Samuel Morris
I want a cute anime grills in jet planes vidya.
Leo Sanders
Hell yeah.
Hunter Morgan
i enjoyed warthunder until everyone had 20mm guns around tier 3-4
Aaron Cook
I enjoyed War Thunder until I started only doing sim battles and noticed how long it will take me to grind things out so I switched to modded Il-2 1946
Blake Edwards
Even 3 months ago, the super tucano was one of two finalists for the united states air force light attack plane.
prop planes have their uses.
Jason Butler
What's the other one?
Benjamin Thomas
the textron at-6 wolverine, pic related
recently the air force reopened the competition to all manufacturers, not just these two
Ryan Johnson
Jaxson Reed
Interesting, is it a requirement for them to be taildraggers? What advantages would a prop have over jet apart from maybe lower operational speed?
Charles Parker
Neither of them are taildraggers.
Owen Fisher
They are great at training and light CAS.
Oliver Adams
you have to consider the CONOPs the air force designed the competition for
>light ground attack in low threat environment
>operate in austere conditions/rugged runways
>easy to train on
>cheap to buy
the whole idea behind this competition was greater interoperability with nations who don't have the resources to buy F-18s/train F-18 pilots. the threat environment is pretty obviously designed around the low intensity conflicts we see in the middle east right now
Leo Lee
109's are such cute planes.
Christian Gray
I see, thanks, guys.
How so? I was under the impression that any plane that is not powered from the tail is a taildragger
Connor Price
a taildragger is a plane with two forward wheels and one aft wheel (like the 109 )
both the wolverine and the super tucano have tricycle gears
Carter Murphy
the most fun ive ever had in a plane was the f35 in bf3
Justin Ross
Ah, fair enough, thank
Dominic Sullivan
Taildragger refers to the landing gear, not the way of propulsion.
A taildragger has the main landing gear in the front and a rear wheel for steering, like most WWII fighters.
Blake Richardson
What are some good VR WW2 plane sims? Or maybe not even sims, just some air combat games with WW2 planes for VR.
Josiah Rodriguez
>I was under the impression that any plane that is not powered from the tail is a taildragger.
Taildraggers are what you call planes that have the third wheel of their landing gear in the rear, like the 109 here.
The Tucano has a tricycle landing gear, where the third wheel is in the front, just behind the prop.
David Martin
>no prop plane Ace Combat
Connor Martin
Yep, another user already explained it, cheers though
Connor Phillips
IL2 Battle of Stalingrad
Joseph Myers
Warthunder
Camden Gonzalez
>aclighthouse.com
>In games and books from series' past, there are references to unseen conflicts in the 1900s of Strangereal. Some Ace Combat games featured famous World War II-era aircraft as a part of their aircraft list as well. Has there ever been talk of a making a World War II-era Ace Combat game using propeller-driven aircraft?
>Even now, Producer Shimomoto frequently proposes ideas. We definitely have staff that want to make one within the development team. However, we, Project ACES is a much smaller team than what you imagine. We have our hands full with just 7 and the season pass.
Dylan Edwards
Fug.
I should probably type faster.
Have an Airacobra.
Sebastian Gutierrez
What's the best looking jet fighter and why is it the F-15E?
Carter King
someday
Easton Rodriguez
Prop planes can actually dog fight.
Jets are just point and shoot homing missile.
Wyatt Walker
props
Nathan Perry
Thanks. I might look into Warthunder since it's free if I ever get myself to take the headset out of the box again.
Charles Reyes
Props/1st gen jets. Lower speed and lower-tech arsenal means engagements are more intimate. AC is great but I think it would be even better for a similar styled game to do something with ww2 era.
Jeremiah Reed
Thanks. Cobras are sexy as fuck but wouldn't the engine being behind the cockpit cause problems during dogfights? It seems to be easily shot out
SU-27
Jason Fisher
Jets are sexier.
look at that F-15's exhaust nozzles puckering up like that. go ahead and tell me you wouldn't want that hot steel tightening around your cock
Liam Carter
DO NOT listen to this man, War Thunder is fucking shite
Josiah Watson
David Hall
But it's free
I just wanna sit in a WW2 fighter in VR
Gabriel Martin
Lincoln Edwards
The cockpits look like shit, IL-2 is your best bet for a good WW2 VR experience I'm afraid
Don't be scared, take the simpill, it's on sale right now anyway
Jack Green
Ryder Davis
>wouldn't the engine being behind the cockpit cause problems during dogfights? It seems to be easily shot out
Yeah, certainly easier to hit there. But they also put armour in the rear of the aircraft for that reason.
Putting the engine behind the pilot also caused problems with the center of gravity when the front-mounted 37mm gun started running dry.
Michael Lee
>The cockpits look like shit
Most of the more recent ones look good at east.
Alexander Sanchez
Still don't hold a candle to IL-2
Plus IL-2 has a bunch of neat features like gunsights that actually work and flight models that aren't complete shit
Jayden Butler
It also made maintenance just that bit more difficult, and Bell lied about the performance to the RAF who cancelled their order after receiving the 2nd plane
Evan Phillips
Lmfao@this prop-nigger bullying turd worlder kindergartners
Man up and buy a jet DCS module
Adrian Ortiz
I'm flying the DCS F-14 right now...
Lincoln Perry
Look at where western militaries are currently engaged. All we're doing is COIN. We're using stupidly expensive and complicated planes to bomb guys in rugs with cheap knockoff AKs.
A propeller plane costs a fraction of what a jet costs, in construction, maintenance and operation. On top of that, it's easier and cheaper to train pilots for it.
In an engagement, propeller planes generally turn tighter, thus it could spend more time doing its actual job. The slower speed would also allow it to spend more time on target. Ground troops still vastly prefer the slow and old A-10 over any other CAS option simply because the A-10 can conduct attack runs far more frequently than an F-18 or something.
Propeller planes are also generally less susceptible for poor conditions (weather, bad runways etc.) and less demanding in general.
Keep in mind all these advantages generally only apply to low-intensity warzones where enemy forces don't have any better AA than 60 years old Russian guns.
Gabriel Evans
radial or inline?
Lucas Brown
I'd love a Ace Combat but with prop planes.
Like, exploring the old wars of Strangerealm.
Wyatt Perry
I could never get into DCS because of the scripted missions. All I ever wanted was a dynamic campaign like in BMS or Il-2 1946
Are the campaign packs worth buying? How much dynamic campaign content is there for the game?
Elijah Clark
Someday
Luis Ramirez
Both are great, don't make me choose.
Ian Carter
inverted V > radial > upright V
Owen Lopez
radial
FW190 and Zero are best grills
Dominic Campbell
No you're not otherwise you would have posted about it first, since DCS shits all over il2. Nice backpedal though now I know for a fact that youre a babydick incel! Buy DCS
Connor Adams
Thanks for the indepth answer, user
Luke Garcia
An inline that looks like a radial.
Austin Collins
>unironically recommending War Thunder
SOLITARY!
Ayden Young
On one of his most notable
missions, Deullin was full of rage at the
Germans after having lost his close friend,
Lieutenant Peretti, in battle over Verdun.
Thirsting for revenge, he caught an
Eindecker from behind and closed to less
than thirty feet before opening fire.
Twenty-five rounds from his machine gun
struck the cockpit and, as Deullin recalled,
The fellow was so riddled that vaporized
blood sprayed on my hood, windshield,
cap, and goggles. Naturally, the descent
from 2,600 meters was delicious to contemplate."
tl;dr planes made out of wood and canvas
Ethan Lopez
It's not a Dynamic Campaign as such, more a career mode that follows the war, you can get Pat Wilson's Campaign generator too which IS a dynamic campaign
DCS WW2 is a fucking joke, DCS for jets and helos yes but I can't in good conscience recommend it for WW2 which is what he specified
Chase Ortiz
God I despise mongs like you
So mjch shit written, so little ACTUAL knowledge
>only useful for areas with no AA
Iglas are all over the planet at this point you delusional day/k/are virgin
Bet you even samefagged your own worthless write up
>troops prefer!
Mong..just a fucking mong
Troops have always taken any sort of CAS provided and were never fuckin uppity about it you neverserved FUCK
dont let me catch you posting ever again
Connor Brooks
Andrew Barnes
Alright, I guess I'll bite. Is the campaign gen some sort of a free download mod or paid content?
Grayson Stewart
>The Hun triplane was practically underneath our formation now, and so down we dived at a colossal speed. I went to the right, Rhys-Davids to the left, and we got behind the triplane together. The German pilot saw us and turned in a most disconcertingly quick manner, not a climbing nor Immelmann turn, but a sort of flat half spin. By now the German triplane was in the middle of our formation, and its handling was wonderful to behold. The pilot seemed to be firing at all of us simultaneously, and although I got behind him a second time, I could hardly stay there for a second. His movements were so quick and uncertain that none of us could hold him in sight at all for any decisive time.
William Mitchell
Free mod, the paid campaigns are scripted ones to tell a story
Asher Richardson
Cool, thanks a lot. Guess I'll pick it up then.
Charles Garcia
They need alternate reality combos. Real life is old and boring, I wanna fly a prop plane with rocket boosters on it.
David Powell
cute
Luis Torres
Jets are more fun to fly but jet combat sucks because of the lock on bullshit
Jayden Carter
>I wanna fly a prop plane with rocket boosters on it
Jacob Lee
Those god damn germans, they got everything.
John Sanchez
Jet combat is 200iq, because it includes everything you need to know about prop planes for when you run out of missiles + jet combat
Parker Johnson
Jet BFM is just as involved as props, you just have to be smarter about it.
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Logan Wood
Does The Sky Crawlers: Innocent Aces count since it was worked on by the same company?
Brandon Young
>Not playing IL-2 BoX for your WW2 content
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Ethan Parker
Very nice, which dlc packs would you recommend for somebody just picking it up?
Ryan Cook
BoS has the best base to build on, then Kuban for 1943/44 eastern front and Bodenplatte for 1944/45 western front. Moscow is the least popular because it's early war Eastern Front but some of the planes in there are really fun
Jackson Roberts
Ground attack; birds are too vulnerable and jets are too fast.
Hunter Johnson
Archimedean Dynasty/Aquanox on PC
Critical Depth on PS1
Christopher Williams
>And before you start saying "those are sims" you can edit the options to the point where they are arcadey as heck.
Are there any jet games like that? I can only play Ace Combat so many times.
Landon Cruz
Thanks, senpai
Christopher Lopez
It's really up to you what you pick unless you really want to get into MP, then pick up BoS as most mission makers use it as the base. All of the battles have their own quirky planes like BoM and it's I-16 or the BoK's jack of all trades Fw190 A-5. If your thinking of getting head first into MP then post your discord tag so you could have a group of lads to fly with :^)
Samuel Russell
I'm not much of a multiplayer sim guy, I'm afraid, I'd rather play comfy singleplayer. Thanks for the offer though
Nathaniel Price
F-16s are so sexy that they actually have sex.
Asher Myers
Wrong answers.
Flight simming.
Justin Sullivan
>tfw janitor
>tfw i mop the floors of the company that manufactures the Super Tucano's Engine.
one time i forgot to turn the alarm off and nearly got arrested by Security when i went to clean the Pratt and Whitney office at like 1am
Colton Allen
It's not about prop or jet, it's about guided vs unguided munition.
Guided is no fun and completely lacks dogfighting. Pre-guided jets (Korean war) are as fun as props.
Easton Murphy
Variable Fighters
Carter Sanchez
The USA already uses them as COIN aircrafts in Afghanistan, they're really nice and useful as fuck
Noah Taylor
Autism
Dylan Taylor
THRUST VECTORING OWNS THE SKY
THIS THING CAN TURN ON A DIME
MACROSS ZERO STYLE
Landon Reed
High-speed chasing in the ravine!
Lucas Garcia
Just like these combat sims user.
Xavier Gutierrez
Don't worry, The built in "career" mode is very nice but if you feel like having more of a "true" campaign mode then install PWCG which is a soon to be a 1st party mod. Note: although for MP all maps are free to play the normal career mode requires you own the battle to play in said battle (PWCG only cares about which planes you own so you can fly Lagg-3s in Moscow or Yak-1s in Kuban)
Charles Roberts
The combat scenes in Macross Zero gave me a massive boner.
Robothech: Battlecry remake when? They nailed the Valkyrie gameplay.
Ayden Baker
Jets
Ryder Davis
BRONCOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Lucas Evans
Props, they have more varied and interesting designs
Ryan Murphy
You can be my Wingman anytime.
Kayden Murphy
Jets are for fat autismos that could never join the airforce.
Prove me wrong, you fucking cant.
Jordan Cruz
I'm pretty fucking shit atm, coming from the Hornet where the plane babysits the hell out of you. Practicing landings at the minute
Hudson Gutierrez
Prop planes are more fun in sims/'hardcore', jets are more fun in arcade games.
Leo Lewis
Prop planes always. Fuck jets and fuck niggers
Jack White
BOTH
I prefer prop planes for online and jets for single player
Parker Cox
Propfag cope in this thread
Caleb Diaz
So what exactly is the difference between a propeller and a jet engine other than the jet has the spinny part in a tube
Jeremiah Cook
The coolest plane aesthetic is futuristic WWII.
Leo King
Yeah, I need to setup my controls. That normally takes a few days to get sorted.
Jayden Powell
It's how they fly. Props chop up the air into little chunks so the plane can climb on top of it, while jets funnel the air through the tubes so the plane rides air currents like a zipline.
Caleb Walker
I see, thanks a lot
James Rogers
DCS is free and comes with a T51 trainer
Jayden Bailey
I have a Warthog and the default binds for it are pretty good, it's just a different beast entirely for pattern work and the like
Matthew Murphy
Jets, but only if it's like Ace Combat. I don't care for realistic sims.
Kayden Robinson
Robert Harris
DCS runs like shit in VR, and the free planes are an unarmed Mustang or a FAT Su-25
Brandon Bailey
how can anyone enjoy this garbage?
Noah Harris
Is that the Doolittle raid?
Parker Green
Pretty sure the post you responded to mentioned the T in 51.
Also DCS is literally the most realistic combat sim you can get, so fuck off.
Matthew Reyes
Jet is not even about the spinny part.
It's about intake being larger than exhaust. Fans are one of the ways of achieving that.
Squids are jets too, but they don't have propellers.
Hudson Morales
Old planes:
>aesthetic
>unique
>distinguishable from each other
>manual aim for fun dogfight
Nee planes:
>all rook same
>BEEP BEEP BEEP MISSILE HAS LOCKED ON TO YOU PRESS X TO FLARE
>no skill-based combat, juetst constant braindead lock on missiles
Wyatt Mitchell
BVR combat is unironically just as tense, engaging, and skill based as dogfighting.
Logan Kelly
JUNKERS JUMO OH OH FOUR
Julian Gomez
But it's fucking shit for WW2
Julian Taylor
Jets push by burning fuel. Hot air expands, and pushes the plane forward. Propellers push like a fan. The blades are tilted so as it pushes the air out of the way, more goes backwards than forwards.
Blake Gray
>>no skill-based combat, juetst constant braindead lock on missiles
This is how I can tell you have no idea what you're talking about
Ian Jackson
Yes
Levi Russell
What are some good WWI aviation games?
I already know of Rise of Flight and Wings Over Flanders Fields.
I love the look of WWI-era planes. Beautiful machines, but dangerous.
Joseph Bennett
IL-2 has WWI now.
Lucas Jenkins
>planelets
>any year
Oliver Fisher
Rise of Flight, WoFF and now Flying Circus are literally the only ones, FC is just a re-make of RoF on the new IL-2 engine
Joshua Flores
War Thunder early tiers are WW1 and interwar biplanes. It only lacks early WW1.
Considering all of them are unlocked pretty much from the start, it avoids the grind which is the shittiest part of War Thunder.
Owen Green
Well, there are props in JA and Infinity, but both are spinoffs.
Elijah Cook
Only one of those planes won WW2
Evan Brooks
War Thunder doesn't have any WWI planes. The earliest you get is early 30s.
Luke Torres
>War Thunder early tiers are WW1
There's not a single WW1 plane in War Thunder
Blake Perez
Last I played there weren't any WWI planes in WT, it was all interwar stuff.
Did they actually add WWI stuff in the last 2 years or so? I thought they're busy shitting out jets, helicopters, ATGMs and radar.
Brandon Barnes
xbox 360
Parker Perez
You're right, it's not a WW2 sim, no one ever said it was. However flying the prop planes in DCS is infinitely more satisfying than in any another game and it's the only one that models them properly. Once you've flown the Spit or FW190 in DCS and have gone back to IL-2, IL-2 feels like the utter shit game it is and is no longer enjoyable.
Jace Gonzalez
Niggerfield1
No, really, the kucks at Dice actually made the dogfighting pretty competent and varied with blimps, attack craft, gunner positions, plane weapon variety
Gabriel Adams
Well i was enjoying it until they showed the pilots, into the trash it goes
Cooper Anderson
IL-2 is more enjoyable than DCS because there's more to do in WW2 planes than fly around an empty map
Sebastian Perez
Damn, that sucks. You'd think there would be more of a market for arcadey WWI flight action thanks to the popularity of the Red Baron and the like.
There was that one turn-based game by Sid Meier, but it was pretty mediocre and basically a port of a mobile game.
Camden Mitchell
>DCS is better than IL-2 at WW2 only when you can fly warplanes in a scenario with no war.
Caleb Sanders
Don't get me wrong, DCS is fantastic for jets and helos, and I'm sure the WW2 planes fly beautifully, but DCS has nothing in the way of content for WW2 planes, and literally the only reason for a WW2 plane in a combat sim is to fight in it. Otherwise you might as well be playing Xplane.
DCS WW2 is dead online and has no content as standard, otherwise pay up for the Normandy map and assets goy
Hudson Jenkins
props honestly
jets are literally the soulless of planes.
Benjamin Brown
>only one of those planes won WW2
None of those planes "won WW2" and only one of those planes was ever truly relevant. I'll give you a hint it isn't the P-51 or F-22
Andrew Wilson
Jets made after the end of the cold war sure
Lucas Morales
>F-14
>soulless
I will fucking blow your ass off, heathen.
Asher Morris
If I'm going to fly a plane in a sim I want it to be the most realistic possible, so yeah, DCS it is. I also stopped playing online games years ago because I'm not a zoomer.
Leo Edwards
Super Tucano
They are badass
Ryder Martin
So what do you do? just fly fucking WW2 planes around doing nothing but pattern work?
Also DCS AI isn't a great realistic adversary because in DCS AI don't use the same flight model as players so their planes can do some really crazy shit
Sebastian Myers
I don't see any strategic bombers in that picture.
Go home with your tiny unimportant spec of dust, claiming to be the deciding factor in the sandstorm of war.
Luis Cooper
>generic f-14 fag
give it up. your super speciul snowflake 'milsim' shit has nothing on a prop plane doing barrel rolls above some barns and you know it.
Jason Cruz
Tfw remake never ever
David Cox
Got a chance to ride backseat in the T6 trainer version. Those planes were fun as fuck but shame the limiters were on.
Sebastian Torres
>Makes fun of generic milsim shit to praise generic aerobatics shit
Nolan Ramirez
Sid Meier's Ace Patrol
It's turn based but it's WW1 flying and it's great
Hudson Bennett
>I know absolutely fuck all about air combat
Dodging missiles is more like
>be flying close to corner airspeed for maximum turn rate (300-500 knots) to evade
>if radar guided, put terrain between you and the missile and fly perpendicular to its path ("notching") in order to become invisible to the radar, drop chaff to confuse it
>if heat seeking, throttle back to reduced infrared signal, fly perpendicular or toward it in order to give it less view of your exhaust, drop flares while pulling hard to dodge, try and send it into the sun if you're mad enough
>if fired from long range, fly in a pattern ("cranking") that forces the missile to increase its flight time and waste energy, drop down into denser air to further burn off its airspeed
Oh yeah, and heat seekers don't give a lock tone, so you still need your eyes to spot them. You also can't just fire the moment you get a lock, too close or too fire or too far off boresight and it'll just go stupid.
Camden Davis
I came here to laugh at you and your retarded opinion
Lincoln Bell
store.steampowered.com
Not the same, but still sorta in the same mood.
Elijah Reed
Is HAWX 2 good?
Ryder Lopez
Didn't know planes could clip through rocks without exploding, or that they can drift like a car in mid-air.
Looks fucking stupid, GuP-tier retardation.
Julian Green
No.
Evan Reed
WW2 up until Vietam era is probably the most kino era of warfare, the technology was just right, today it's all about blowing up some unseen target from a continent away with a big missile.
Isaiah Nguyen
>clip through rocks
>drift like a car in mid-air
Too many people have opinions on things they know nothing about. And the more ignorant they are, the more opinions they have.
Juan Rivera
What happened to military aircraft? Where did all the SOUL go?
Anthony Rodriguez
>3D cgi
INTO
THE
FUCKING
TRASH
Mason Bennett
t. simdad
Juan Murphy
>all look same
Do you people seriously have trouble picking an F-4. A-10, F-2, 14, 15, 16, 18, 22, 35, 104, YF-23, Mirage 2000, Rafale M, MiG 21, 29, 31, SU30, 47, and 57?
The only ones that look too similar are some of the SU lines.
Brandon Davis
>waahhh 3D bad
Austin Miller
I enjoyed the 45mm gun the most, great looking plane too
Matthew Cox
That looks horrible too. Your point?
Logan Diaz
skycrawlers innocent aces
>made by the team that also made ace combat cross rumble
Parker Parker
QUALITY van is amazing though
Jaxson Perry
Sopwith knew how to make some aesthetic aircraft.
James Powell
>Gets rammed
>Flies off highway
>Next shot is them spinning out with the camera intensely vibrating
Fucking kills me every single time
Nathan Myers
My point is 3D CGI has its use. It's good for animating mechanical things with lots details and movements.
Unless you mean the 3D character, I don't defend that. Really wish they would use 2D instead.
Robert Rodriguez
>knows it looks like shit, and has to try and deflect with QUALITY van
Nicholas Martin
I can't fucking believe someone saved that. I posted it like once on /wtg/ back in 2014 or so.
Props. I prefer ACM to missile spam, which is far too common with (modern) jets. Cannon duels are good fun in DCS, though.
Lincoln Cruz
what the fuck is this from
Dominic Long
So ugly it comes full circle and becomes pretty
Julian Martin
Spoonfeed me please. What is this?
Easton Ross
Me too :)
Colton Brooks
LMAO that shit looks horrible. The models look completely out of place with the 2D background. You're an idiot for cherrypicking low budget 2D animation by the way.
Angel Hughes
all this talk about prop planes make me miss this game
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Ryan Johnson
Innocent Aces, nigga
Anthony Price
I believe it's Kouya no Kotobuki Hikoutai
Jackson Torres
The tail is still ugly.
Josiah Brown
And it will looks worse in hand-drawn with TC series' budget and time restrain.
Lucas Thomas
>that
>this
>this
>good use of CGI
Jesus user.
Carter Harris
Virgin 3D animation vs superior Chad 2D animation
Owen Watson
*TV series
Andrew Reyes
Corsair is peak Marine aviation aesthetic. The only reason it isn't the peak for the USN is because of tomkitty.
Jason Wilson
May 4th 2014 according to the properties.
Got me real good the first time I saw it.
I miss when /wtg/ wasn't the massive shitflinging, falseflagging garbage fire it is now.
Michael Butler
The 3D character is the worst fucking part, but none of the rest looks particularly good in movement or in stills for that matter. Too much camera shake to throw you off how uncanny it looks.
Jace Hall
yes, the pilots shit their pants coming off the deck.
Andrew Morales
All Corsairs are beautiful. #FuselagePositivity
Michael Watson
If Cowboy Bebop could do it, why can't they?>=
Elijah Jackson
Fuck you nigger, Phantoms are phabulous.
Mason Wilson
James Mitchell
>I miss when /wtg/ wasn't the massive shitflinging, falseflagging garbage fire it is now.
Quality of /vg/ generals often seems to correlate with the quality of the games they discuss.
Carter Harris
>strawmanning that hard
Andrew Sanchez
>*gets into a dogfight*
Christopher Rodriguez
There is only one answer
Jacob Ortiz
Nice non-answer.
Carter Reed
I burned out on WT back in late 2015, early 2016 and haven't been to /wtg/ since. It was a fun place back in the early years. Every 6 months I reinstall WT, test-fly some of my old favourites and wallow in the nostalgia, but the spark never lasts long enough to carry me into an online battle. I miss how I used to feel for the game.
Jace Torres
>nice non-answer
>to the point that was never brought up in the first place
How new are you where a reaction image triggers you that fucking hard?
Liam King
>still not answering the question
Sebastian Johnson
What fucking question, dickhead?
Benjamin Bennett
>Wins
Elijah Robinson
the question is rhetorical, it answers itself
Jonathan Robinson
Wow, did the people who made AC7 do this? The physics look about as bad.
Sebastian Anderson
Ian Gutierrez
>Old planes:
>>aesthetic
>>unique
>Nee planes:
>>all rook same
You know how I can tell you're retarded?
David Young
>obvious falseflag
>question
Sorry user, your 3D plane show will always look bad.
Easton Wilson
DELET THIS
Lincoln Nelson
You've confused me with another person, user. I'm arguing against the use of cheap CGI in animation.
Dominic Wright
They're both boring as hell to fly in video games.
There's no real sense of speed or anything indicating that you're in a super powerful machine.
In real life jets are loud as fuck constantly jumping around like crazy from the randomness of the air current.
At least in current gen racing games you hear a ton of shit happening outside the car like the dirt and rocks hitting against the the frame of the car and they generate all the bumps and head wobbles that would happen in real life. In flying games the animation for the planes are just following a straight line.
If you want to have fun, Helicopters are a much better choice in video games.
Hunter Jones
Then don't make posts that look like the largest falseflags known to man with shit like =
Cameron Jones
Funny thing is that was literally a typo, and I have no idea how the hell it happened either.
Liam Rogers
When it comes to vehicles and other mechanical stuff cheap CG will always look better than cheap 2D.
>but gayboy beepboop
I said "cheap."
James Murphy
What are some games that let me fly bombers and reduce cities to atoms?
Isaiah Morris
>clip through rocks
0:08
Wing is inside the fucking cliff side.
0:20 drifts like it's on asphalt.
Anything else you want to point out that makes you look even more retarded?
Kevin Lewis
Wings over Vietnam.
Kayden Phillips
Then they really shouldn't bother creating the show to be honest. CGI in anime will always look horrible, and worse than 2D.
William Jackson
> However flying the prop planes in DCS is infinitely more satisfying than in any another game and it's the only one that models them properly.
Ayden Parker
people will probably hate this and me but here you go
Jace James
The only thing I hate about it is how inaccurate the planes are.
Jason Martin
Ethan James
>CGI in anime will always look horrible, and worse than 2D.
>Cheap CG will always look better than cheap 2D
Nathan Jackson
Yea Forums prop planes
Tyler Evans
yeah the part where they turn into screaming skeletons wasn't very realistic either
Andrew Ramirez
Comfy
>still no gunship game made for VR where I can aim the turret with my eyes
What a waste of technology
Zachary Walker
More than anything, I want a game set in WW2 that let's me fly an A10 warthog.
Oliver Moore
>WW2
>A-10
what
Owen Nelson
You mean the P-47 Thunderbolt?
Ryder Hughes
>No swaying or buffering at all
So unrealistic. GTA V is more realistic than this.
Kevin Nguyen
Just for fun.
No, the real A10. It would be so fun to shit on everything with it, since the A10 is like a WW2 plane with its gun, but faster and more agile, with unguided rockets and bombs to boot. It would be so fun.
Henry Hughes
>rearview is for faggots: the design
>1987 animation webm related
Colton Russell
I love how a low budget mobage ad anime put more effort in planes and dogfights than a Hollywood movie.
William Myers
We don't talk about redtails.
Liam Hughes
>animation from a cheap TV anime
>animation from a Gainax movie made at their peak
woah
Chase King
>The Wings of Honnêamise
>budget ¥800,000,000
That's your answer.
Ian Hall
prop planes because i have 1000 hours in war thunder
Jack White
>survives taking 30mm cannon fire
>his .50 cals cause the Me-262 to explode
This is incredibly fucking retarded
It's a 10 tonne fighter jet flying in calm conditions, not a Cessna 152
Asher Bailey
>cheap TV anime
Precisely. It fucking shows.
Ian Lee
Anime dogfights are unrealistic action fests. To a western audience, it looks like cheesy Bollywood action sequences when they do it like that. Play any WW2 flight sim game to see how easily those planes went into tail spins if you tried to pull hard manuvers. I know this sounds gay as fuck, but Dunkirk did it right.
Ethan Ward
Was about to mention that.
For as much as I could rip Dunkirk for, the dogfighting was one of the bits it got right.
Parker Brooks
>More than anything, I want a game set in WW2 that let's me fly an A10 warthog.
People are laughing at you now but Warthunder will unironically have an A-10 in it soon killing WW2 tanks because Gayjew will not be able to resist that sweet burger paypig money.
Parker Moore
You go crank out 10 minutes of Honneamise tier animation every week on a tiny budget.
Ayden Gutierrez
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 is the best combat flight game.
Adam Hernandez
>P-51 has 6 guns
>Me 262 has 4 guns
Checkmate, Atheists.
Levi Diaz
>0:08
the artifacting makes the wings blend with the background
>0:20
it's called rudder
Easton Taylor
Prop planes had the best aesthetics and could dogfight without muh missiles
Lincoln Rogers
Actually the phantom does have decent rear view, you just can't see rear below, but there are a lot of aircraft still like that and many of the soviet designs had the problem in spades. Any time you saw a fishbed rolling left and right you knew it had lost you.
Daniel Thomas
>Excuses
>It's called mass, and those planes don't turn like a fucking car that is doing dagumi.
Keep it coming, retard.
Justin Morales
Long boy.
Michael Reyes
So we are agreed that it doesn't look good. It looks precisely how you'd expect for the budget-time constraints and the inconsistent art design.
Robert Davis
You mean ¥800.000.000 rape movie
Josiah Long
Migs have a little mirror in the canopy, for all it is worth
James Sanders
>Excuses
it's called explaining, look at the fucking video
it's called rudder, the animation is shit but still.
Nolan Rivera
Considering those things it looks fine. It would surely have looked worse with pure 2D animation at the same budget and time constraints.
Jonathan Collins
I liked that short ever since I first saw it. You can also set it to any blood-pumping soundtrack and it fits great.
Alexander Gutierrez
Austin Cruz
In terms of dogfighting, A2G strafe/bombing runs, and just the aesthetics prop + turbo prop aircraft all the way. Most of the gameplay with jets is just lock-on interfaces and shooting targets 1-2 miles away. There's nothing intense about them because they're just way too efficient and fast to experience a good dogfight.
Luis Reed
No those are excuses for a shit CGI trash anime that can't understand aero physics, or physics at all.
It clipping through the cliff shouldn't even have been through the planning stage at the company that made that trash.
>It's called a rudder, so it can drive like a car in the air with friction that looks similar to rubber against asphalt
John Taylor
Show him a little trick you learned?
Colton Morales
The anime is trash but your points are trasher.
James King
Start them up, taxi, fly around, drink, relax, yeah. Then switch to another aircraft and do the same, maybe throw in an enemy aircraft to dogfight with. Keep in mind I flew the original IL-2 series online for about 13 years, so... I'm had my fill of that.
Don't own the Ka-50? You can slew the shkval around with your head.
Levi Kelly
The Dora is so uniquely aesthetic.
Mason Wright
Levi Butler
>a shit CGI trash anime
No bias at all, just say you hate it because it CGI next time.
Dylan Gray
>GuP-tier
It's by the same director
Aiden Harris
>clipping through the cliff shouldn't even have been through the planning stage at the company that made that trash
Not him but what does that even mean? That the company actually planned to make the plane clip through the wall when they were storyboarding the scene?
Owen Campbell
Christian Sanchez
Van is from Polyphonica.
The first one IIRC.
Easton Sullivan
He also did Mayoiga.
Can't hit home runs every time.
Jordan Thompson
Here's your superior hand-drawn anime.
>surface control don't move
>plane explode like in a hollwood movie
Parker Wood
There are lots of good GCI, this is not one of th...
No wonder it's so shit then.
What it means my underdeveloped user is that mistakes like that should've been seen at the drawing board PC in this case, since it's CGI.
Jaxon Walker
Justin Lee
Are you for real arguing over aircraft physics in fucking anime?
Carson Phillips
gundam
Isaiah Bennett
Looks stupid, CGI or not.
But the later one at least didn't have the plane move like the air had the density of water.
Or is that how you think rudders work, because you saw it on a tiny boat?
Jason Williams
Jackson Garcia
>Keep in mind I flew the original IL-2 series online for about 13 years
Did you play 1946 on Hyperlobby?
Justin Nelson
>Ki-43s
gay
hellcat would have been better
Ryan Jones
For me it's the Junkers Ju 87 "Stuka"
Jericho Trumpets make me hard
youtube.com
We need sound employed more in war. Stukas and Operation Lost Soul are peak psychological warfare.
Jeremiah Wood
Jaxon Bell
>drawing board PC in this case, since it's CGI
That's not what a "planning stage" means, my passive aggressive condescending friend. You used the wrong phrase if they're already up to that point.
Nathaniel Wright
>Stuka
*autistic screeching*
Jason Jackson
forgot to include a image of the pretty plane
Kevin Wright
Were there any instances IRL where A10 pilots actually did this?
Colton Campbell
Doesn't matter, that's not related to the topic.
They shit out trash that should've been at least be free from render mistakes like that.
What's next they forget to add the plane in the next episode while rendering the CGI?
Dylan Bell
Ethan Morgan
Shh, let the autismos fight.
Ian Wood
Blake Perry
>IL-2: 1946
Yeah, I started with the original release of IL-2, back when their were only like 10, planes or less to fly, not almost 200. I have every release of IL-2 still on CD, and I was a beta tester for Pacific Fighters and posted on the UBI forums for years too. Pretty good times.
Andrew Nguyen
Andrew Rodriguez
you think you're so fucking smart
I bet you use skub
Julian Perry
Is there any good arcade game with prop planes? And no Warthunder is not good.
>check that website
>over half of these kills on F-15 are from jews raping sand niggers
>130 kills and 4 losses on F14 are from sand niggers raping other sand niggers
>that one lost F16 was fucking turks
>if you look at combat statistics of countries that made these planes usually it's something like 3-0 or 2-1
>left side have muh sam networks but F-4 lost over 500 machines to them
Now that was educational.
Adam Murphy
Thats not how wild weasels work at all.
What the fuck am i looking at?
Brody Brown
Luke Sanchez
I think it really depends. Is the aerodynamic mechanics in the game good or bad? I will play whatever feels good for a flight sim.
Matthew Sullivan
Well isn't that guy too cool for school?
Ethan Ortiz
Lol fuck no, except for maybe a crash landing.
Lincoln Myers
>were there any instances IRL where an air force pilot used the recoil from his gun to make a forced landing on an aircraft carrier, setting fire to the flight deck in the process
Only in my dreams.
Luke Taylor
Okay, what episode is this? I'm going to download it real quick and find the scene to see if there actually is clipping or if it's a compression artifact.
Daniel Collins
>no proximity fuses on those missiles
what
Sebastian Diaz
Il-2 1946 lets you customise the fuck out of realism and difficulty. Mods can make it look bearable but I have no idea how it controls on anything other than sticks
James Martinez
Crimson Skies
Eli Flores
Have that autist barrel towards you at 600 km/h ready to fuck your shit up and then try being unintimidated by that screeching
Easton Mitchell
The power of the AIM-9X
Julian Roberts
He's done a lot of series
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Hunter Diaz
I use both.
Hunter Green
>He's done a lot of garbage
FTFY, pham
Jack Hernandez
Or you could go do literally anything else and stop derailing my plane thread with your pointless argument. Go outside dude.
Why did you feel the need to post all that shit?
Jeremiah Nelson
B17 Bombers.
Those B3 Jackets the crews wear are amazing looking too.
Owen Harris
Fuck all of this autism.
Post your planefu.
Sebastian Torres
God, are you in for a rude fucking awakening in 11 years.
Justin Perry
Matthew Walker
It's not clipping.
Michael Jenkins
I'm going to have to ask you all to stop dragging garupans into this retarded argument, thank you.
Landon Ward
Ryan Rivera
Ace Combat: MiG Alley when?
Jonathan Sullivan
Mason Turner
ur a real fukr, son
Skub users don't deserve to post here
Kevin Adams
Nathan Mitchell
this is true
also these scenes aren't nearly as good without their sound effects
William Powell
>letting your enemies know you're coming
You don't need a siren when you have 37mm AT guns under your wings.
Joshua Mitchell
Xavier Howard
That's a big fighter.
Aiden Reed
>HACKING COMPLETE
>ENTERING ELECTROSPHERE
Samuel Walker
for you
Logan Kelly
Well there you go, I guess.
Noah Howard
>not "just trim it, bro.webm"
Luke Kelly
>tfw any decent replica of a B3 jacket will cost at least $1000
Only certain MFG have military contracts to reissue these.
Ian Powell
ac-130>attack helicopter>>>>>>>fighter
bvr jet fighters is kind of soulless combat but the engineering is implessive
props are too slow as well
Xavier Barnes
/tg/ but this is pretty good and there's probably a TTS mod
Luis Carter
Christopher Turner
Jayden Campbell
Minengeschoß!
I fucking love Minengeschoß!!!
Ethan Evans
I can't pick just one, I love them all.
Daniel Lewis
Good idea
Would look like an ant next to the Su-27
Jonathan Torres
TN: Minengeschoß means cute.
Liam King
Was meint "Minegeschoß"?
Thomas Johnson
That's a fancy coffin.
Kayden Edwards
No because that's fucking retarded. "Hurr Durr miss the cables just fire the cannon uncontrollably to slow down". Every single plane in history does full power for another go around.
Xavier Adams
Woops, forgot to quote
James Morris
>A mine shell (directly translated from the german term minengeschoss)
>The word mine in the name mine shell doesn't refer to the common use of the word like land mines or the naval mines.
>It's an ammunition term used in several Germanic languages meaning explosion with minimal shrapnel effect or maximum explosive effect.
Brody Gomez
Post some minengeschoss damage. I love that shit
Blake Nguyen
Fucking Kraut apologists, OUT
Jason Rodriguez
See
Jace Campbell
Tyler Foster
Josiah Foster
no u
Jace Watson
When will they stop pretending their flight models are accurate?
Jace Kelly
>History Channel: Dogfights
God that was a fucking awesome show. That and Life After People.
Easton Stewart
>you'll never get to meet Erich Hartmann, Adolf Galland or the other great Luftwaffe pilots
So many stories they could have told.
Ethan Jackson
>Mein Fuher, ve are lozing ze var against ze Russians, and ze Western Alliez are about to crozz ze Rhine! Vat do ve do?!
>SHUT ZA FUCK UP! VE VILL TAKE A FVUCKING AIRPLANE AND JUST STRAP ROCKETS ONTO THE MUTZHA FUCHKER!
Jordan Murphy
no, the game barely works now.
Asher Price
The guy I posted was Galland's wingman for some time and later designed pic related with his brother.
Jaxon Sanchez
90s to early00s HC was the best shit ever.
Remember Mail Call? RIP Gunny
Ethan Phillips
How do you know it's inaccurate?
Xavier Robinson
Get a peek at this hothead.
Andrew Morales
IT'S LUFTWAFFE TIME
Jaxon Rodriguez
DELETE THIS
Mason Kelly
Western media is not willing to tell the story of a pilot allied with the Nazis. That being said, Hans-Joachim Marseille (whom Yellow 13 was based on) was notably quite anti-Nazi, and fought more for his people than his government, with over 150 confirmed kills.
Hunter Gomez
Pretty much the exact same story here. Not sure exactly when I quit but it was somewhere around that time, shortly after they added British tanks, whenever that was. I haven't even reinstalled in at least a year and a half. One thing that really doesn't help is that the whole community seems to be much more focused on tanks than air these days, and I find tanks really boring.
Josiah Watson
have you not played steel diver?
Jace Price
You do realize the non realistic flight options are enabled for these videos, right?
Austin Hernandez
Su-37
Aaron Ward
I like both but I like jets a little more.
Props are "holy shit, we're flying"
Jets are "holy shit, technology"
Aiden Collins
I loved whenever Gunther Rall would show up in a documentary.
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Camden Butler
>Western media
As opposed to who? Are the Russians suddenly big luftwaffe fans now?
Lincoln Johnson
Ayden Sullivan
What do you think about twin-engine fighters?
Alexander Lee
props, you can't have up-close-and-personal aerial battles in jets. Warthunder (an ok game behind a shitty pay2notgrind) is a prime example of this, the low-tier planes are slow and deliberate, allowing time for more interesting maneuvers and tactics.
Chase Torres
>dogfights
>"fucking awesome"
Only to the idiots who knew jack and shit about flying. The CGI is terrible and the aircraft behave in Ace Combat tier style unrealistic fashion. I feel embarrassed for the veterans involved in the show.
Levi Phillips
They all look good but they're a liability.
Ryder Johnson
Love 'em.
Brayden Turner
Can it fly backward?
Aiden Edwards
I always loved the Mosquito in combat flight simulator 3. Knowing you can out run pretty much anything gives a lot of options.
Anthony Wood
Disappointed we'll never get to know how the Arrow performed in combat.
Jonathan Green
I fucking love those retarded experimental German prototypes
Benjamin Taylor
>where we're going we don't need runways
Jayden Long
>losing the war, industry and manufacturing in ruins
>start designing magical rocketplanes
What the fuck were they thinking?
Jonathan Lewis
Could be worse.
Liam Johnson
Imagine all the fantastical stuff they'd develop if they didn't lose the war. I mean they lost the war but their scientists took the US to the stars
James Robinson
And even with all the simulation autism settings turned up to the max, there's still a fun "gamey" element in pursuing clear objectives in a dynamic (and hostile) environment that many other sims lack.
Zachary Foster
Cold Waters if you want to scare yourself into a coma.
do a 1968 playthrough and enjoy the thrill of having an Echo II materialize above you
Jackson Collins
Boomer or zoomer?
Eli Young
its all alien technology they got from the occultists dude
they didnt design shit
Austin Lee
>I mean they lost the war but their scientists took the US to the stars
no they did not develop interstellar travel
but they also took the soviets to outer space too
Jaxson Wilson
ARE YOU ANAL POUND 96?
Christopher White
IL-2 1946
Anthony Campbell
I mean, the one you replied to was real