Realistically is there any video game character that can beat souls guy? Also what did you name ur souls guy...

he's just a retarded mongoloid with low stamina, slow attacks and dies in 2 hits lmao

YOU CANNOT KILL ME

I only ever played the first DMC so I am unsure of Dante's current power level but that sure as shit wouldn't work against Bayonetta, she would just grab the first arrow in midair and then shoot souls guy, fuck she could just throw the arrow back.

You are massively overestimating the dude, even with muh respawns he is ultimately a small fry in the grand scheme of things

I AM OMEGA

that depends on whether or not the character he's fighting can disable the bonfire or not

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He'd respawn infinitely but Souls powerlevels are pretty low, unless you scale them to "first flame powers the sun so gwyn&co are sun-blasting tier" shit

if you're fighting superman can you disable the sun?

Souls guy would never be able to kill Ganon because he doesn't have the Master sword. So it doesn't matter how many times he respawns.

>you need the master sword to kill ganon
oof

The Master Sword isn't required to kill Ganon.

>Kill
>Ganon

>using a bow safe distance away
>against the guy with guns, rocket launchers, magic and teleportation
Come on now, you really don't believe that.

>t. never played twilight princess

>t. never played the older Zeldas
Ganon's weakness is silver

It's 100% required in OOT, WW, and TP. You literally cannot win the final battle without it.

Is the bonfire just a gameplay mechanic for working with saves or is the character canon, in game immortal the wayb the nameless one is?

An then he just comes back because you didnt permanently kill him. too bad.

Just named him my own name. John's pretty goid for almost any game, always have enough space to type it, and it's not to outlandish to take you out of a setting.

yeah after a thousand or so fucking years

It's not in the original LoZ and you kill Ganon in that one.

Sekiro guy would rek him he gets two respaws!

Yup. So ganon wins. Souls guy a shit.

It's technically canon, undead respawn at bonfires when they die. However, undead are not necessarily immortal. If they go hollow, then they won't respawn. The player character doesn't go hollow though, since they're the "chosen undead". I always considered the chosen undead bit to be a gameplay mechanic, in that by not giving up and continuing the story, you were preventing yourself from going hollow.

The DaS protags are undead

He’s canon immortal, with the drawback that if he responds to much he goes Hollow.

Except you dont kill him because he comes back for the 50 sequels that came out after.

I'm not too familiar with Souls lore, but is being Undead reversible or are you perpetually Undead until you hollow?

Anything can die if you hit it hard enough.

Yeah but eventually they just become a brainless zombie.

Its canon but the Chosen undead can only respawn as long as he has the will to continue. Dark Souls undead become mindless zombies if they lose purpose

>pretending to not know the timeline

>Except you dont kill him
You do, Ganon never chronologically appears in any games after LoZ

>instantly respawns for the 80th time and comes at you again

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IIRC if the fire is linked the curse is "lifted" until the first flame begins to fade again, though undead can become ashen ones which seem to unaffected by hollowing or any sort of decay

only if they lacked a purpose, and if an undead made slaying Ganon and his minions his purpose then he could reasonably keep living for decades until Ganon came back again. Ganondorf is pretty low tier as far as Nintendo villains go anyway

Wrong. Breath of the Wild is canonically the last game in the timeline and Ganon is in that game.

Is there a reason why the bonfires wouldn't be extinguishable, or perhaps not established in some parts of the game? For example, in an early level perhaps you haven't gotten far enough to establish a bonfire yet so if you die to the first enemy, you don't respawn and have to reload?
If the bonfires are not extinguishable, the character can still be beaten by imprisonment, banishment, or some sort of mind fuckery. Plenty of rpgs have status changes like paralyze.

>Breath of the Wild is canonically the last game in the timeline
[citation needed]

Google it bro.

>Is there a reason why the bonfires wouldn't be extinguishable, or perhaps not established in some parts of the game? For example, in an early level perhaps you haven't gotten far enough to establish a bonfire yet so if you die to the first enemy, you don't respawn and have to reload?
The player always respawns somewhere. If you don't rest at any bonfires in Dark Souls 1, for example, the game will always respawn you at Firelink Shrine. This could either be considered a gameplay mechanic or the idea that even if you don't rest at a bonfire, you are linked to it regardless.
>If the bonfires are not extinguishable, the character can still be beaten by imprisonment, banishment, or some sort of mind fuckery. Plenty of rpgs have status changes like paralyze.
This is technically true. At one point in the game, a dragon named Seethe kills you and locks you in a cell. The only way to escape is to kill a nearby guard and take his key; you can't warp from the bonfire you spawn at. So you could technically trap him.

Dale Cooper and Carcosa.

Unironically Kirby would take a fat shit on Souls guy every time.

Using Firelink Shrine as the default is obviously just gameplay since that bonfire is routinely extinguished.

>he thinks that theres only 1 linear timeline

Its funny you say that since the original LOZ only exists on a single branch of the timeline.

*throws an apple*

/thread

If we disregard his resurrection BS, any semi competent fighter could beat him

> Killing Dante with a Bow

LMAO

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>If we disregard a main power of his than anyone can beat him
not how it works.

Dante could just keep killing him for all eternity, there is no realistic way Souls guy can beat him, no matter how many times he tries

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>if we take away dantes powers and make him just a normal dude then normal dudes can beat him

The fucking Hunter from Bloodborne would kick his ass.
>Moves way faster
>Has guns
>Has eldritch god powers
>Can also respawn infinitely
>Uses less of his stamina so he can perform more actions

> They don't understant the difference between combat competence and cheesing people with Shenanigans

Chosen Undead can't respawn infinitely.

bloodborne guy

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Last night you said the same for Dio you actual subhuman

Any disgaea character, or characters from other series that make damage received 0 if stats are to high

What can Chosen undead do?
>can heal himself, command lightning, slow time, give himself power armor by reciting scriptural verses
>master at multiple types of weapons like sword, axe, bow&arrow
>absoulte juggernaut when it comes to health and endurnce
>can manipulate fire via pyrmoancy
>can cast magic
Chosen unread in pretty OP, i'd wager that from a lore standpoint he's probably Dr. Strange level of power/ablities.

halo or metroid should

Is there a video game character that can defeat madura uchiwawa?

kirby

>Be chosen undead
>cast walk of peace
>Memester chief's bullets go in slow motion
>chosen undead flicks them out of the air as he casually strolls up to memester and guts him.

>Guts master chief
The amount of things wrong with this statement, here's your (You) faggot

Thanks for the soul.
Enjoy the magic seal.

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>taking bullets in the head is combat competency

>Realistically is there any video game character that can beat souls guy?
Pretty much all of them.
The problem is that "souls guy" doesn't care much about getting killed and just come back knowing your moves.
Sooner or later he will get you, be it by sheer luck, erosion, but simply catching you when something else will have weakened you enough.
Best course of action is to just seal him somewhere.
He will still win by outliving you tho, unless you have some form of eternal life too.

This.

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>your expression is not technically accurate
you don't deserve a (you)

> Not bothering to dodge attacks that cannot possibly harm you is not combat competency

Is like a MMA fighter parrying punches from a toddler

>Best course of action is to just seal him somewhere.
he could kill himself and return at a bonfire. you would have to put him in some sort of comatose, but being undead that might be

>Dante
>Not Vergil using Yamato.

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Ayuwoki

impossible.

Drop him in a barrel of cement, Yakuza style.

>and return at a bonfire.
Not if he hollows.

No matter who, so long as they have a bucket of water for the bonfires. If soulsguy gets a Mary sue revive chain, I should get the chance to put it out in the ongoing meme theme of this discussion.

you'd have to look into how death really applies. He doesn't have wolverine type healing factor.I imagine he can starve to death, ,or dehydrate. He just comes back afterwards.

Soma has such a wide array of bullshit that could put him down for good.
Power of Dominance would take his soul
Magic Seals could stop him from coming back
Petrification without killing him would work.
Alucard and Dracula could also manage it.

>bucket of water
The only way to extinguish a bonfire is to kill a fire keeper.

to my knowledge from a lore standpoint the only way to put out a bonfire is to kill the fire keeper. it wouldn't be as simple as putting a bucket of water on it. Even if it was, you can lite a bonefire just by directing your will towards it.

I have always wondered how the various tier of hollowness work biological need wise.
Complete hollows definitively don't seem to give a fuck about water and food, but what about no-hollow-yet-but-also-not-exactly-living-flesh like the PC ?
They seem able to consume stuff but do they *need* it ? Do they breathe because they actually need oxygen or is it just an habit that's too hard to lose ?

imo the implication is that they do need to continue biological needs, or else they'd die. But then they just come back. According to the intro of DS2 hollows feed on souls and that's probably enough to keep the going.

>According to the intro of DS2
DS2 isn't canon.

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Any fucking character can wreck chosen undead's shit.
Dude dies from shit that other vidya characters shurg off easily without a mayor pinch
Op is just a soulsfag sperg

even if you take that view, we know that souls are the currency in lordran and that everyone wants them. Also you use them to level up. It seems souls have some sort of sustenance power.

pretty much everyone can beat this guy as long as they don't have a memorable pattern of attacks with large telegraphs that they strictly adhere too. He's just some faggot with a sword who rolls around a lot till an opening presents itself.

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adding on to this, some firekeepers like the one in DS3 can't be killed as their lives are bound to the bonfire so they respawn indefinitely like the player. Other members of Firelink in 3 also respawn indefinitely

>idk what armor and estus and miracles are

Wait, is that a canon power like in Bloodborne or Undertale? I always thought he actually dies

You can kill the Fire Keeper in DaS3, though. It's a requirement for one of the endings.

>the death battle kirby meme
Kirby would get his ass kicked by anyone faster than him and anyone too strong in inhale.

>homeward bones

Hes got magic, hexes, boss weapons, amazing armor, miracles, elemental damage, and pyromancy. Hes more than just a sword

>Kirby would get his ass kicked by anyone faster than him
So definitely not souls guy then. Cool.

All undead reanimate at bonfires until they hollow. The ashen one cant hollow

he would go into every fight like he does in dark souls. Get mashed into paste because he doesn't know what he's fighting. Almost anyone with any significant powers could beat the shit out of the chosen undead.

And then he reanimates at a bonfire, comes back knowing ur attacks, and keeps adapting or grinding souls till he wins.

This made me think, why do the other undead characters actually seem to die when the main character doesn't? Is there some lore behind it or is it just video game logic?

that's assuming he can reanimate. Is the bonfire reanimations canon or is that a "hey kinda ignore that please, the reanimations are just to explain you being bad and dying, he actually does the whole adventure without dying ever"

They fully hollow out, at that point they've lost what was keeping them going and they just don't come back, it can happen to the main character but only if you give up entirely.

>Go and kill fire keeper
>Bonfire goes out
>CU cant respawn anymore
That was easy.

>kill firekeeper
>you arent able to take souls like an undead
>fire keeper respawns at the bonfire

Most NPCs we meet in the game who die hollow. See crestfallen warrior, Rhea, Vince, Nico, Griggs, Laruentius and Logan. You are correct in that three seemingly die, These would be Lautrec, Beatrice and Sigemyer.

My own headcanon is that unlike hollows, these 3 characters actually fullfilled their purpose/destiny and thus can die. So an undead really can die.

The real question is: How has Andre not hollowed for presumably thousands of years?

Yes, this is most blatantly explained by big hat Logan who compares Seath to a true undead with the power of the Primordial Crystal healing his flesh. Undead can not die, not until they become hollow and even then that's sort of disputed.

The "chosen undead" prophecy is bullshit made up so that every undead will think they have a shot at being the one and are less likely to give up

Souls guy can carry around weapons as big as he is while wearing armor made of rocks my dude, he aint no punk.

>implying CU can even touch doomguy with his speed
>implying doomguy won't go on CU's quest at mach speed and finish it for him just so he can shoot him dead

Nigga found his purpose that is smithing and nothing has really stopped him from being able to do that. He's just that dedicated to keep himself from hollowing.
Best bro.

>The "chosen undead" prophecy is bullshit made up so that every undead will think they have a shot at being the one and are less likely to give up
That's gonna be a [citation needed] from me.

It's a video game, anything can mean whatever the player wants it to.

Maxwell from scribblenauts

Nice cop out.

Literally the first thing you hear about the chosen undead is that "thou who art undead art chosen", literally every undead is the chosen undead
And there's also all the redpills that Kaathe drops where he just straight up tells you you're all dipshits getting strung along and everyone just hopes someone gets lucky

My avorite souls guy in ds1 was level 20 with the dragon body, 99 humanity and primarily used his claws and fire breath with a dark hand in each hand as a secondary. He'd be a good match for most game characters but I guess someone from an "xd cuhraaazyyy" game like dante or something would be able to kill him.

>doom guy joins souls guy to kill the fire keepers and finish the final boss
>along their trials and journey chosen undead shows his amazing intelligence and intuition by finding hidden paths/chests and exploiting boss weaknesses earning doom guys respect
>doom guy shows off his skill and strength and technology earning souls guys respect
>they become bros over the course of the journey and forget why they were ever fighting

>you who are undead (aka you the guy infront of me) you are chosen
>this somehow means every undead person ever is chosen
???

Even i could kill this faggot.

Because Crestfallen implies his purpose there is to ring the bells but he wasn't able to accomplish this. The legend of ringing the bells that circulates among undead implies some sort of "truth" or closure for the undead and so many go to Lordran with this promise.
What happens when you ring the bells? Frampt awakens and conveniently explains to you that you are the "chosen undead" who's destined to take Gwyn's mantel.

So you go on this adventure believing that you're destined to be king or some shit, you kill Gwyn and then just go to the bonfire as undead normally do BUT OH WAIT, you're in the FIRST FLAME and you get burned alive as fuel.
The entire shit is blatantly a trick, get a really powerful undead to come to Lordran, take the Lord souls and then have all of them burned to extend the age of fire. No one would willingly burn themselves alive, not until the third game where they somehow convinced people that being a lord of cinder was a good thing.

>wears full plate armor
>sword with the length of your whole body
>pyromancies
Yeah, im sure you could

>is there anyone who can beat guy who slowly rolls around and can be killed in two or three hits
yeah, plenty, actually.

Pretty much any videogame character could. Souls guy fights mindless monsters and anyone with a brain could tell after a while he will keep coming back and instead of killing him find a way to trap him and immobilized him so he can't kill himself.

Going hollow is just when the undead gives up and is mentally broken and cannot go on.

Petrification just respawns the chosen undead. Immobilization wouldnt work

Depends what "beat" means in this context. Souls guy has infinite lives and will always resurrect, so you can't really ever get a permanent victory over him. But he will go more and more Hollow each time he dies, until he becomes a mindless zombie. Though even then he will keep coming back and fighting you.

It has always been canon in Souls games that you die and resurrect, did you pay no attention to the story? There is literally a curse that makes everyone into undead, and you are undead yourself.

You do realize Souls protags come back instantly after dying? Forever? Unlimited amount of times

Petrification is presumed to kill you
I think he's saying just trap him somewhere, like what Seathe would have succeeded in if it weren't for that one retard snake with the key

Hes also a weak little bitch that dies in 2 hits to everything.

>trap chosen undead
>die of old age
>chosen undead just fucking around in the cage still not beaten
And you consider this a win???

>Seath
>Dying of old age
Think as long as he sucks off the crystal he's fine. However given how easily you break the crystal it's pretty obvious why Seath is obsessed with creating scales of immortality.

>dies to giant sword and hammers and huge monster fists in 2 hits
Wow, guess he really is a bitch huh, maybe he should put on armor