What is a good monitor?

Depends on the ratios; 16:9 or 16:10? Also does the 22" have a thick frame?

if you don't need 144hz then no

Both are 16.9 and both 27 has zero frame and the 22 has a little frame

>27 inch 4K 60 Hz monitor with no extra features
>$350
>50 inch 4k 60 Hz TV also including speakers, a TV tuner, and built in streaming
>$300
I really hate this.

>27''
Tiny
>IPS
shit contrast, glow
>75 hz
shit freesync range, only 48-75

I want a monitor whick displays black as black as possible. Most monitors feel like a gameboy SP when displaying dark tones.

There are great 144Hz monitors for only 195 euro, such as AOC C24G1.

It's VA, but there is no ghosting at all with Overdrive turned on.

Once again gamers being the most abused class.
RISE UP GAMERS

>24''
Why would you inflict that on yourself?

Assuming you want a gaming monitor, just get a 240hz.

>ips
>27"
>75Hz
That's why it's cheap and prolly shit.

VA panel are the best pick currently

Gaming with newly purchased 1660 Ti right now and it's not futureproof for 1440p monitors.

This, which kind of monitor doesnt feel like a backlit piece of paper

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
nice bait man
Va is shit
Once had it and sent it back

They sell a lot less of the monitors.

Buy a TV and use it as a monitor, its 2019

Think about buying this monitor. Does it good?

acer.com/ac/en/AU/content/model/UM.HX3SA.P02

I have 32 inch Samsung TV which I really like but it's too big to sit in front of

Should I fall for the Freesync/G-Sync meme? DMC5 has way too much screen tearing and using V-Sync in this game is retarded.

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Both are useless above ~85fps, which you should be playing at at the least if you have a high hz monitor. However most high hz monitors come with one or another anyway

dont forget power usage

Literally what for?

gaming of course

Stop playing with the lights off. Look more into ambient lighting and percieved black levels vs. absolute black levels. You can make even the shittiest IPS monitor look as black as a CRT and completely hide all the IPS glow if you just pick up a string of LEDs and attach them to the back.

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Every monitor I’ve ever had has made my eyes hurt and had text that was weirdly blurry. I don’t get it. I can use my laptop just fine but monitors seem almost unusable. Every one Ive tried was in the 100-300 range. Do you really need to spend 500+ on a PC monitor just for it to be usable? Whenever I want to use the web or browse Yea Forums I always have to use my laptop because doing it on my monitor is uncomfortable. I’ve tried both ISP and TN monitors at 1920 x 1080

I don't get it
What can this 1500 bucks shit more than a 300 bucks shit

>4k

stop.
99% of hardware cant even process this. the only way you should buy garbage like this is if you are shitting money and have some retarded SLI-linked 2080+ i9-9990k.

seriously. All you need is like a 150-300250$ 144hz 2560 x 1600 with 1ms response time.

several (at least like 5 to 7) years from now though as hardware improves then MAYBE just MAYBE getting a 4k might be worth it.

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Are there any 144-240hz 1080p monitors that are IPS, or are they all shitty TN or curved VA?

you see those warriors from Hammerfell?
CURVED. MONITORS.

Either get a 240hz 1080p tn panel thats great for gaming, casual browsing etc. Doesnt cost much.
Or get a 144hz 1440p ips/va panel, costs twice as much and you cant play games at native resolution.

>TN
>2019
It's not 1999 anymore

Its not like IPS are good.

response time numbers are all lies, every number on the box is a lie outside of its native resolution and screen size, but even that one is only a recent development because they use to measure bezel and add that to the screen size on quite a lot of monitors.

you have to look up real review places to find out what monitors are good.

rtings is fairly good when it comes to displays, but a clear focus on tvs.

va has the best contrast, better color then tn, and better blacks then ips.

lie some more.

>dude, just like, poke your eyes with a fork

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People are brainwashed with the ghosting meme.
It's not an issue anymore with modern VA panels.

Are you retarded? Playing in pitch black is far more straining on your eyes than having ambient lighting.

I have an AMVA panel and it's by far the best one i've ever had

Why do people use monitors instead of just buying TVs?

I just hook my PC up to a 52 inch bravia.

Because TVs have terrible PPI.

Oh, it still happens, but its a trade off.
everything is fucking garbage sub 700$
nothing has good response time
tn has shmears
ips has shmears and glow but good color
va has shmears and good color.

even when you get something good, you have to expect 2-3 frames of i can kind of see shit still.
With va it's mostly darks that have trouble, lights are pretty fast.

What to look for in a good allrounder?

Are gaming monitors crap for movies?

Have been using boomer Dells for years...

>75hz
don't bother, 144hz or nothing

That actually sounds like a nice idea.
Do I need to need to get one of those RGB one that synchronise with whatever shown on screen, or will a simple led strip do the same thing?

Use a simply LED strip, or one that you can manually change the colors of. Depending on what color you're using, it will bring out that color more on your screen. Using white makes all the colors more vivid, blue brings out blues more, etc. You can actually use them to compensate for your monitor's weaknesses in color reproduction if you get autistic enough to measure that with a colorimeter.

Its not like TN is anywhere good.

144hz is a meme so no

yeah but the color switches every inch you move your head
it is worse than a tn

because even my 32 inch tv is too big to sit infront of

fuck off
my 1060 cant even push steady 60 fps so i dont care above 60

who the fuck actually plays in the dark? its not B.C. 5000 anymore cavemans

not even close to as bad as tn does. hell I have a 55 inch va right in front of me.
the color is a little off in the corners at 3~feet away but nothing to really complain about.
because of the contrast, even though looking at it from a lower angle up, I still have decent contrast, tn would be completely black at this angle and would require a special monitor stand.

ips, while the color doesn't shift, the backlight bleeds more as you look at it from off angles, making already shit contrast that much fucking worse and fucking the image more then va does.

this shit is all about what you can live with, I will take 120$ srgb 10 bit (I think through frc) that gets 1:7000 contrast and just shy of 1000cd/m2 with local dimming over ips any day.

Every sane person plays with a lamp pointing at the wall in absolute darkness.

>absolute darkness
>lamp pointing at the wall
like i said, caveman

fuck you! stop trying to convince me to get a wqhd va and spent over 300 eurobucks on it
reeeeeee
how does va compare to qled monitors?

?
My monitor is qled with a va panel, not sure how this works tho

>Dude if you smear shit all over your screen, you can't notice the bleeding light and ghosting.
Or just get a good monitor to begin with.

does it look as awesome es these qled tvs you see in electro markts?
name one that doesnt cost more than my car

The only good monitors are CRTs and they're impractical for modern games. With LCDs you have to work with what we've got, and ambient lighting solves the black level issues entirely. Newer tech like Light Boost and ULMB fix the motion blur issues as well. It's not perfect but CRT is never coming back so we have to adjust.

Get one of the 1ms 1080p Asus monitors if you want a cheap and good monitor

>gamers are not poorfags neets like you faggot

qled is va but I think some kind of other layer to make colors vibrant happens, honestly, samsung fucked around with what a qled means just to sell against oled.

what you need to know is this.

tn is good, as good as some ipses were years ago, but you need to calibrate it and if you can't, this isn't a great option to go for.

ips is a sure thing, but you are playing lottery with backlight bleed, many palaces no longer see bleed as valid replacement reases so if you get fucked, your out of luck.

va is the middle of the road between ips and tn, and in more recent years got most of its flaws down to the point its what I would go for. contrast is king when it comes to perceived quality, accurate colors are nice, but contrast beats them hands down. till I got my VA I had a tn from nearly 10 years ago, whites were fucking yellow at this point. but you get use to that, its why when my brother spent 500$ on a top end ips 144, all I could see was that it was smoother, which is VERY worth it even on normal desktop shit, but the color accuracy was trumped by the fucking glow. any off angle it bled so bad it was worse them my tns contrast shift, which from my estimates was making the tn have a contrast of around 100-200 rather then its 800-1000 it should have had.

but my tn... a tcl 55 605, I could see in store that even with color shift, it was better then any of the computer monitors they had, and even with the contrast crush from looking below up, it was STILL better then my tn looking straight at it.

It was a no shit buy for me at that point.
600$ later it has 1 flaw, the way that it has constant above 3000:1 is it turns half the pixels off/down, while most of the time invideo its great, in games and comics that can lead to a green and pink checkerboard. granted on a pc va that would never happen, but if you go tv like I did, just make sure its has all pixels act in tandem rather then half on half off.

>STOP
Just because you are still a porfag using your ld outdated hardware doesnt mean that the MASTER RACE aint rocking 4K since 2015
Try to keep up

>1080p
Just get a 4K HDR 240hz IPS GSYNC one dumbass

Idk i don't watch tv, it's a samsung ch32g70 and i am pretty happy with it. No bleeding, dark is dark, contrast is good, good colors.
It also support HDR but it's shit.

>144hz
Don’t bother, 240hz or nothing

>falling for the response time meme
input lag is all that matters, you really think you're gonna notice anything under 20ms response?

what can tn better than va?
and i had once a 144hz monitor from samsung but everything was more stuttery than on 144hz then on 60 hz so i sold it again

that $300 tv probably has a garbage panel and no vsync

>2019 still using a box as a monitor just kys fGgot

BLUR BUSTERS NIGGA

that makes 2000 chips please

VA panel

>depend of the piece of shit car you are using

>subjective
>contrast better than the alternatives, glow is negligible
>reddit meme
yeah and better headache giving ability too because of the constant ghosting

IPS, 1440p, 144hz is a great monitor, I think. I have 1080p but if I bought a new one that's what I would go for

Will there be any good new 1440p monitors next year? Or do I have to buy this ugly fuck?

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>pc cant even handle 300fps and you use a 144hz monitor
You budget rigs are as oblivious as the console plebs or worst

>have dual monitor setup
>want one single wide monitor because sitting off-centered when gaming is annoying
>spend hours looking for a decent ultrawide with a high refresh rate still at relative 1080p
>prices jump like mad, a monitor that was $550 is now $980 2 days later
>realize it'll make streaming virtually impossible and I'll have to get super creative with the setup and it'll tax my machine even more
>just give up

I don't know how to fix this non-problem.

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lets say its a 500 euro car

>TN panel
don't even @ me TN having copelets

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Just use it and get a monitor stand 20$ on amazon

i have a 1060 and a ryzen 1600

>he can't score 10ms or less on flood's test
You're never gonna make it, kiddo

Kek you cant evenget 60fps faggot

>go to local electronics store to look at monitors
>stand in front of the IPS and TN side by side
>can't tell the difference
>stand in front of 60hz and 144hz
>can't tell the difference

Am I retarded?

How do I clean my monitor pls respond

You can tell the difference between 60 and 144hz just by moving the mouse around between them. It's like night/day difference, especially if you have dual monitor setups. Even my wife could tell.

doesn't matter if it's TN, as long as you get HDR on that shit, it will look better than a IPS.

so stop recomending me shityt 144hz monitors faggot

Tn is the cheapest and better then nothing
Look up reviews, and see some of the tns, good reviews will show you high speed photography so you can see if there is a trail or not, tn is really the only thing that has some monitors that dont trail, but you are paying mid range ips prices for said monitors.

personally I like to lay back in bed and watch videos, so I went large format 4k, and ended up at tv because tcl made a statement piece. If you know what you are getting into, I recommend them, I went with it for contrast and because I wanted multi monitors without bezels, and 4k is 4 1080p monitors.

personally, if you want to go with a tv, I HIGHLY recommend waiting till hisense puts their new line out. panasonic sat on a patent and did nothing with it, but hisense has a version of their own or licence for mixing a black and white lcd panel and a va/ips panel, this allows them to have pixel perfect local dimming along with very high brightness, this will be a game changer as it will clearly shit on everything out currently, and won't have the burn in of oled. a perfect middle ground till samsung/hisense/tcl/lg get their shit together and get the micro led to work, samsung is close but its still 80+ inches for 4k at minimum, they need to get it down to 65 before its viable.

dont listen to this faggot its a lie
you have to move your head to see the colors shift on tn

>IPS > VA > Trash > TN

Just bought a new IPS monitor but I am confused with how to set up the monitor colour properly.

For pic related,
Should I keep 1-5 as dark as possible while being able to distinguish them?
If I open the HDR in the window setting it beomes more easy to see 1-5 but it is no longer dark.

Also all my black look kind of greyish,
is this the limitation of IPS or my monitor just sucks?

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>spit on a paper towel
>rub it on your screen till try
done

what the fuck are you even on about?

this can do 1440p 90-100 in most games with a setting tuned down.

>180
>for a 75hz
bought a 165hz asus monitor for 280

microled>oled>ips/va>trash>tn
ftfy

1 should be completely black with 2 being slightly brighter

good job
the eye can only see 24 fps
they fucked you in the anus

like he said, shit.

VA>>>>>>>>>Tn=/=Ips

contrast is king in perceived quality,
144hz is very noticeable even on the desktop
accurate colors are nice

contrast more so than any other factor is what makes a monitor look good, and as far as human eye is concerned, we are able to tell shifts (quality tiers) in the 500 range. ips tops out at 1200:1 while va starts at 3000:1

There are more details I can go into, but lets put it this way
Tn has come a VERY long way, and calibrated, is ipses equal till you are paying out the ass for a pro 10 bit panel where everything can be custom calibrated to the panel itself, I forget what this is called.

Ips have MASSIVE quality control concerns where bleed will be so bad its not watchable, you are rolling dice, so make sure you have a good return policy if you go ips.

on my VA I am able to tell color gradients that are 2 apart from each other, like 178,234,64 and 178,234,66
try doing that and it may open your eyes, color accuracy is nice, but something you can easily adjust to. contrast however, contrast we don't adjust to nearly as well. like I said, my brothers glow problem was as bad as the contrast shift on my tn, ips and tn are FAR closer than anyone likes to admit.

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good 4k monitors are only $300 now

>says nvidia
>wants you too buy 1500 dolla cards
thx for confirming my point

Fuck no, 1 is 1,1,1 and the border between is 0,0,0
1 should be barely perceivable difference, but monitor quality plays a very big role on if you will be able to see a difference of 1,1,1 and 0,0,0

>not playing on a CRT in 2019
ishygddt

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general game statistics.
higher frame rate typically means the person invested in playing games, so they play more games, thus are better because of it. but this study also took that into account, and once you are at the best in the game, the difference between 60 and 144 does make a difference.

this bait is not even funny

...I said nothing about the colors shifting, I was talking about the refresh rate. Jesus, dude, 1 int much?

jokes on you

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btw i was trying to tell him how to see the difference not that you said something about color shifting
0,5 int much dude?

Yes.

If the demo is capped at 60fps, you aren't gonna see the difference.

If you stand directly in front of both, it's gonna be harder to see that tn is garbage when viewed at any other angle.

Been playing pc games since before most of you were born. Currently hooked up to a 32 inch Samsung TV. No lag.

Don't fall for the meme. Get a cheap TV or monitor. It's all literally the fucking same.

If you buy a gaming monitor don't forget to get the monster mini fridge bundle and elite gamer chair with no sweat technology

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God I bet you're shite at any multiplayer game

amazon.com/VG279Q-Gaming-Monitor-FreeSync-Adaptive/dp/B07KXHTRT5/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=VG279Q&qid=1552491046&s=gateway&sr=8-1

Recently bought this one and I love it. Ticks all the boxes for me:
>IPS panel with good colors
>acceptable respones time
>144hz
>1080p
>27 inch

Colors look a million times better than on my old TN panel. Only problem is with shitty ports that force low FPS and reaction time is slightly slower compared to my old BenQ XL2411Z. There is a 1440 version, too.

>75hz
>ips
do at least a cursory amount of research before buying your shit, unless you're a quasi normalfag who doesn't care all that much about gaymen

t. retard who has never used a 144hz monitor. You can definitely see the difference when your framerate drops from 144 to sub 100.

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based retard

you're not using an hdmi cable are you?
i recently bought a 165hz 24'' using my old 60hz on the side as a dual monitor set up and the quality difference is staggering and the manual specifically said that you should use the display port for best quality

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Does this look ok for the price? cheapest monitor with freesync i could find, i'm on a poor mans budget.

I use display port, yep it works best.

seems okay for that price tag. I find it rather odd that you ask for Freesync, tho. Nothing wrong with it per se but it is more of a bonus feature for dedicated gaming monitors so I wouldn't put it on top of my list in this prize range.

>If I open the HDR in the window setting it beomes more easy to see 1-5 but it is no longer dark.

HDR should only be used when watching videos or playing games that support HDR like The Division, otherwise everything will look kinda washed out. Don't bother having HDR on when setting up your monitor.

yeah i was just looking for freesync as a bonus, thanks for the help user.

it shouldn't be a issue if you use HDMI 2.0 cable. Also read the manual, often time those monitors have only one good hdmi port while the other hdmi ports are stuck at 60hz.

these days, 27" is the minimal size you want. No real reason aside from bigger is better. But if you're a poorfag... do what you must.

the only benefit of hdmi 2 is that it can transfer 1080p at longer distances than displayport

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You better tell me you have a 8k monitor or there's no difference in having a displayport cable compared to a hdmi 2.0.

Who the fuck would trade freesync for 3D?

What’s a good 144hz 1080p monitor for less than $250?

ur mum

1660 ti does 2k really well.

>v
>videogames
What a newfag

>144hz 1080p for less than $250
>good
if you consider tn panels good maybe

I used one and yes I saw a difference
It was more stuttery then on 60hz
Its trash

This might be a brainlet question, but how much does having dual monitors affect performance?

Yea Forums is so fucking tech illiterate you should not be allowed to make tech threads here

You think g is better?
Same faggots

When would it be time to upgrade a 1060 3gb?

Should I move on to a 2060?

insignificantly

skip 2xxx, wait for next

>i'm old so that means i'm right!
Suck a dick, grandpa, you may like eating shit, but that doesn't mean the rest of us have to

>I only play AAA trash on ultra
Makes sense, go ahead and stick with your shit monitor for your shit games then.

Not really, no, especially if you're running your game in exclusive fullscreen. Obviously if you're running something requiring any sort of graphical power on the second monitor you'll lose an equivalent amount of performance on the first. When it comes down to it, if you find yourself in a situation where you're needing to skimp every last little frame out of your hardware then you've got bigger upgrades to worry about than a second monitor.

isopropyl alcohol and a paper towel