First Halo to be released on Steam will be the worst one

hahah lol you misspelt 2nd best

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we had to play the beta cause we were kicked off halo 2

>Halo CE, Halo 2, Halo 3, ODST
>Reach better than any of these
Just because it was your 2nd halo game doesn't make it good.

>Hating on Reach
Adapt. Also reach had the best armor in the series by far.

>B-But muh cosmetics!

But Reach is the best game in the series after Halo: CE. Halo 2 and 3 and ODST are all terrible games.

>But Reach is the best game in the series after Halo: CE, Halo 2 and 3 and ODST
Fixed

Fuck you I liked it.

>Grey texture roooooads, take me home
>To the place, where I belooonnng
>Halo: Reach™, Spartan mama
>Take me home, grey texture roads.

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reach was based, halo 3 niggers need to stop crying already.

I always thought Forge World was ugly as sin. I prefered playing on the normal maps.

>Fuck you I liked it
This, grow up. Turning Halo into COD was the right move.

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>But Reach is the worst game in the series
ftfy

Halo 5 is the canon worst one, anyone who disagrees is showing their underage b&

I liked reach the story got kinda slow I’ll admit that :/

But look past that a little bit and think of the true significance of reach this is The UNSC main military outpost! Losing this planet is a devastating blow to humanity. And since we know it’s going to be destroyed we get a first hand look at those who tried to defend it

>tfw I was too young to even care, I liked all halo games and I honestly wish I could go back in time to the days of sitting in my room and play halo 3 and Reach, and jerk off to girls next door on the very same CRT TV

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>HURR DURR REACH AM BAD

Fuck off, Reach is the best Halo you bandwagon faggot.

>I knew only underage faggots use shitty Wojak edits.
The first Halo came out in 2001. Early nineties kids were literally kids when it came out.

Hell yeah bitch, SWAT on Countdown 24/7 server when

Should I play original Halo 1 and 2 or wait for remasters? I heard they fucked up them in remasters.

This is the equivalent of Nintendo planning to add all 2D and Metroid Prime games to Switch with two separate collections and the first game they add is Metroid Other M.

I'm a 95er, the first Halo was literally mystical to me. I had to beg my neighbor, who's dad had an Xbox to play Halo, for about half an hour before he got bored and wanted to go out and kick fucking soccer balls around for the rest of the day.

>Admitting to being underage

I just assume that everybody who likes Reach and the games that came after it are kids or cod players. Therefore, their opinion means nothing to me and I they're not even worth arguing with.

I couldn't imagine having such shit taste, OP. But you are a faggot so it's to be expected. Reach was Kino as fuck. Now waste your time and insist otherwise.

Man i fucking loved reach, cant believe its coming to steam bros

>First Halo to be released on Steam
>Reach not listed but Master Chief Collection is, which does not include Reach

You're a dipshit OP.

Pretty much this, I'll give 343shills credit, at least they don't try to blatantly fit in with us.

I loved Halo CE (literally was the first online shooter I ever played on PC, still play it), Halo 2, and Halo 3 and yet I still enjoyed Reach.

>No shitty Flood

Nah, sorry, its the best one.

>us
Yikes.

>Flood are shitty
Oh wow, you sure are pathetic.

the MCC is being updated with reach, but it'll be the first game added on pc. fucking retard

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Shut up and stop trying to fit in with the Halo trilogy fanbase you fuck bags, we hate you and what your shit prequel did to the gameplay, story, and lore of Halo.

No it isn't.

Reach fucking sucked and we STILL have to deal with its bullshit a decade later. Catch you faggots after they rollout CE.

You mean worst, Reachkid.

It is. Not even that user but learn your shit.

That's because you never played CE. You're comparing Bungie's most skill based Halo to their most causal friendly "Halo". Go back to COD, faggot.
They couldn't play the original games so they shill for the newer/easier ones and pretend like they were here all along. It's pathetic.

Why are they releasing Reach first? As someone who only played Halo 1, is reach like a prequel to Halo 1? So they releasing by how the story flows?

No, its really not. Dumbass.

>TFW Reach was the first time I realized a hyped game could be shit

This, it was so bad 343 had to try to make the shit fit in with the rest of the series when they took over.

So why don't people like Reach?

Don't forget if you shit on them, they will call you a 343shill or 343fag. I always hated these mother fuckers back in the day.

No. Halo 5 at least has a god tier forge, responsive physics and aiming, and the best weapon balance in the series, and good multiplayer, though your mileage may vary if it's good for a Halo game speffically.

Remasters. Most of the problems with them are highly overblown, and you can just play them using the original graphics anyways if you really care that much. None of the minor bugs or missing shaders or whatever outweigh the resolution and framerate boost, and the original PC ports of Halo 1 and especially Halo 2 have the same shader issues, but even worse, so even if you wanted to go ultra purist you'd need to find an xbox hueg to do it.

Halo is overrated fucking shit that should have stayed dead.

One of the worst science fiction plots ever put to paper.

This

>Added COD shit like load outs and perks that ruined the gameplay
>Worst story and least memorable
>Worst multiplayer map design

Based. halo is responsible for the garbage FPS scene we have today

Halo 5's multiplayer is great. Halo 5's campaign is garbage and is to be forgotten.

Halo 5's multiplayer is unbalanced trash.

t. assmad halo 3 babies who never played CE and 2 and hate everything after 3 on principal.

Reach has issues, but so did the prior games, and while Reach's problems (breaking even starts, the worst MP maps in the franchise) are more severe, the insane amount of content, modularity, and new things it adds makes up for it.

The only regard in which it deserves the shit it gets is for high level competitive play and competitive halo is full of tryhard faggots who intentionally want shit weapon balance and game design just so they can wank themselves over MUH UTILITY WEAPONS while the rest of the weapon sandbox is dogshit so they don't have to use anything but the magnum/BR/DMR

>"unbalanced trash"
>when almost every gun is actually good for once and you aren't punished for not having the game's token utlity weapon on you at all times

All of the Halo games have something solid to their name at the very least. The problem is that when the series hits lows, it hits them hard (aka 5).

halowaypoint.com/en-us/news/mcc-pc-halo-reach

>Today we’re extremely excited to share two big announcements that deliver on what are easily the most frequently requested asks from our community over the last few years: 1) Halo: Reach is being added to Halo: The Master Chief Collection and 2) the entire collection is coming to PC via the Microsoft Store and Steam!

>The Master Chief’s arrival on PC will happen in stages with each title releasing one by one over time - giving the development teams the ability to ensure each one is right, while giving players a chance to jump in right away, rather than having to wait for the entire suite of games to be completed. Our current plan is for this journey to begin with the launch of Halo: Reach – the fictional beginnings of Master Chief’s saga – with the rest of the titles following in chronological order thereafter. Halo: Reach, Halo: Combat Evolved, Halo 2, Halo 3, Halo 3: ODST (Campaign), and Halo 4 will each be available for individual purchase within MCC as they become available. And each game will evolve and grow over time with community input.

fucking retard

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5 doesn't even really have low lows, it's campaign doesn't have that many awful levels, just a lot of really uninspired boring ones

CE and 2 both have lower lows and hit them more often then 5 does for their campaign

lmao I literally just said it was my first online fps?! are you retarded?
I started playing it back in 2004 and was even in some faggy clan where I played it "competitively."

I also never compared them to each other. I said I enjoyed Reach. again, proving what a fucking dummy you are.

Reach is objectively better than Halo CE, Halo 2, and Halo ODST. However, it cannot beat Halo 3.

This is fact. Don't @ me.

I started with CE you damn Reachturd, stop trying to fit in.

This

Nice strawman faggot. I actually played CE and 2 so I know how much Reach fucked up the legacy of Halo.

@454316806
Reach was shit and Halo CE-3 are all better than it. This is fact.

CE is the best campaign and literally only has a 5 minute low segment in the whole game. (Keys Escort on Legendary)

>I loved Halo CE
>That's because you never played CE

really giving me something to think about here.

Wow why the fuck would everyone want the game with the largest amount of content including the best forge, firefight, and campaign. Along with all the best weapons, vehicles, and optional armor abilities. Not to mention the amazing art style and the most best spartan customization in the series.

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>Ruining the multiplayer is ok because FEATURES

it's honestly hilarious to me that some of you have such a elitist attitude about Halo of all games. I've played them all up to Halo 4 and still enjoyed Reach for what it was.

they're dumb shooters that are best played with friends anyways.
of course, the people who actually take on an elitist attitude usually don't' have any of those.

Cringe>if y

1>odst=reach>3>4>2 for campaign

haven't played 5 yet as I don't have an xbone

>This objectively wrong thing is a fact

I kinda want to play this.

>if you want a good game that is mechanically consistent you're an 'elitist'

You enjoyed 4 though so I shouldn't pick on the disabled.

>most content
>Content is shit

>best spartan customization
at the cost of elite customization, and i get why they did it, and i played invasion or w/e a shitton so i dont really mind it, but i am a weirdo and i liked my arbiter man to look like a cool alien commando

FAT KID
GHOSTBUSTERS
JENGA
BULLFIGHT
THOSE GET TO THE FINISH MAPS WITH A SNIPER IN THE CENTER
PAC MAN

LETS DO THIS SHIT

I've never seen a post this wrong before.

Not an argument.

I played it when I had a windows phone it's ok just something to pass the time, I feel like the levels were pretty quick

The 343 Shill/Fanboy Checklist:
>Halo need a to evolve
>progress
>sprint keeps Halo relevant
>343 hides the population so more people play action sack
>Halo had no competition back then
>Halo 5 doesn't have ADS
>CSR is better than 1-50
>I played *insert old Halo game* and I still think 343's Halos are good
>But what about Reach?
>Halo 3 baby
>reddit spacing
>Halo Infinite should have RPG elements
>343 saved Halo
If you think you're arguing with a shill/fanboy, simply resort to this checklist, call him a shill/fanboy, then ignore him. Watch him cower and recoil as he's been found out.

people on are kinda tend to be retarded so i just wanted to come by and say that halo 4 was the first halo game that sucked

I said I played them up until 4, not that I enjoyed them all up until 4. are you stupid? don't answer. I know you are.

Check your eyes because I'm right.

There's a lot of bait in this post.

>But what about Reach?
Why is it so hard for you to believe that people that love Halo CE-3, hate Reach?

>sprint and clamber actually make the game faster!

Every time.

Every gun was always balanced except for the needler in CE. You just didn't notice it, because 1. You never played true Halo, or 2. You sucked with the CE pistol and BR. And the magnum is the utility weapon in Halo 5. You're just confused due to the automatics being overpowered in Halo 5. I pity you for not being able to experience the good old days when we were on top.

I love halo but haven't played since 4

sprint is retarded, I hate it in halo
don't know anything about hiding pop
>competition
fuck ads, haven't played 5
1-50 was better
4 is ok at best
reach was great
3 wasn't that good but better than 2 and 4
fuck niggers
I don't see what's wrong with adding rpg elements in campaign
pc saved halo and 343 was smart to release on steam as pc gamers are retarded and dislike other launchers, I hate PC gamers

t. pc gamer

>largest amount of content
Halo Custom Edition. But even if we're not counting that, a lot of shit content isn't anything to write home about.

>the best forge
Halo 5 is better

>firefight
ODST is better

>Campaign
CE is way better and it's not even close. 3 and ODST is also better. 2 is an argument.

>best weapons
CE had a better sandbox

>vehicles
Way less relevant and fun than in 3

>optional armor abilities
Not a positive

>amazing art style
Cringy brown n bloom MUH REALISM 'we want the cod audience' shit. Artstyle peaked with 3

>best spartan customization in the series
In terms of amount but the progression system made each worthless because you just grind them out instead of accomplishing a feat

2/10 see me after class.

You're not a 343 fanboy, you're a Halo fanboy. You'll like Halo and defend it no matter how shitty the campaign or gameplay is. Your opinion doesn't matter. 343fags have more valid reasoning than you. Kill yourself.

Based. Only true fanboys defend reach.

Since 343 are listening to r/Halo does that mean that Sprint has a heavy chance of being removed in Halo Infinite along with Smart Scope?

It's the most possible it has ever been. Just remember to FUCKING SPAM THEM if they do it wrong in the flighting program.

Oh my god! Oh my god, Oh my fucking god! IS THIS ACTUALLY HAPPENING! Is Halo really back!

>no firefight, theater, or forge
>irrelevant
>no
>no
>no
>no
>it is a positive for custom games
>console limitations. PC/remaster fixes that
>its the best

>b-but armor abilities like armor lock completely ruin the game
Is there anything worse than halo 3 faggots

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Lockout is the best multiplayer map ever made.

If 343 could make another dumbed down Halo they would. They're as arrogant as they are incompetent. They're only listening to Microsoft, because a PC release would be the only thing to keep Halo alive. Most of the veterans left already. That's why you'll have to use windows 10. Lol

Halo's been selling well on console though, it's the PC release we need to look out for on whether or not it actually sells well or not to see if an actual audience exist.

>CE is the best campaign

I heavily disagree

>Least amount of enemy variety
>least amount of weapon variety
>minimal story or writing
>outdoor playspaces tend to be large empty fields, making engagements uncreative and straightfoward
>indoor playspaces tend to re-use layouts, and just be copy pasted mazes of hallways and rooms
>re-uses level themes

It's my least favorite of the bungie titles. It's pretty much Halo 2's arbiter missions, but for signficant portions of every single level.

If you could try to explain why you think it's the best, i'd love to hear it, but I just do not see it, at all. I'd outright prefer 4's campaign if not for it's cringy writing

So did I you fucking faggots, I bet you niggers don't even remember the Cortana letters

Equipment was the worst part of Halo 3, but we never got anything as franchise ruining as jetpack and sprint

>map pick-ups
>worst than abilities you get out the gate
Yeah, Reachfags

Everything that user said was right, Reachtard.

>halo
>it looked really good! XD

Go back to your movie games you playstation faggot

You're comparing an ability that a player can start with versus equipment, which is something that was never used in Hardcore. Using a bubble shield doesn't hinder the melee-grenade-gun gameplay that Halo was always based around. Armor lock does. And for the record most of us were against equipment. You'd know that if you weren't somebody that started playing with Reach.

Yes, I do, it's been referenced in Halo 3 and even 343 referenced it in their new data drops. You probably read those letters years later.

>Everything that user said was right
But it wasn't. Try again.

As if I'm going to listen to a Reachkid.

>content, modularity, and new things it adds makes up for it.
you cant just use buzzwords as arguments you mouth breathing nigger.

>CE is way better and it's not even close
See
I legitmately want to understand what people see in CE's campaign that they think it's the best. I started with CE, but I never really became a Halo fan untill 2, becauise I always felt CE's campaign was pretty repetitive and tedious, even for it's time.

Relative to it's sequels, it's flaws are just so apparent.

I'd argue Reach's maps were a bigger issue then sprint and jetpack, jetpack actually made some of the levels less awful.

>Using a bubble shield doesn't hinder the melee-grenade-gun gameplay that Halo was always based around.

I mean, it sort of does, because equipment represented a 4th pillar to that triangle. But as you say, it didn't break even starts, so it's not an issue. I don't get the shit for 5's abilities in the same vein, they also preserve even starts.

Reach had the best customization and really great maps, hell, a good chunk of them were remakes from 1-3 anyways.

also seeing people cry over armor lock on PC will be amazing.

Reminder that most of the retards that shitpost Reach are 343 shills that gobble up Halo 5 shit. They love sprint, clamber, ADS, and all that garbage.

Yea Forums has such shit opinions and taste in everything, explain why reach is bad besides MUH ARMOR LOCK

I legitmately don't even know what data drops you are talking about, link?

>great maps

Fuck no it doesn't, I'll defend reach but it's MP maps are complete shit.

People who started playing Halo with CE know that Reach isn't a Halo game. Nice try though, cuck.

i did and reach is my 2nd favorite after 3

Fucking exposed.

>Clamber

5 still has grenade jumps and crouchjumps, and thrusters, hover, etc add a fuck ton more skilljumps as well. There's nothing wrong with clamber in 5

>ADS
5's """ADS""" preforms exactly like the zoom in past halo games in terms of gameplay; and not like ADS in other shooters. it's only a visual change (albiet a bad visual change, since it makes things more visually cluttered)

Yeah, they already put 5 on it.

Except armor lock or abilities in no way shape or form changes that "melee-grenade-gun game play" anymore than equipment in halo 3 does.

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I started playing with CE and know Reach is a halo game. Stop spouting this shit, retard.

>Halo Spartan Assault brings the excitement of Halo combat to Steam!

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>collection
>all games releasing separately and individually priced
LITERALLY WHAT IS THE FUCKING POINT

half the equipment was updated out of the game you dumb nigger, half the maps have none as default. Playlists remove it entirely. There isnt a single reach playlist that doesnt have autistic armor abilities

You want me to pull out my old as shit copy of fall of reach I bought the week CE came out to prove it?

Except equipment doesn't break even starts. Armor abilities do, and even starts is litterally the only consistent, core element that all 3 original halo games share.

>Hate Reach
>Love Sprint

No. Reminder that Reach received overwhelmingly negative reception on release and was actually worse than the beta. No amount of revisionist muh 343 nonsense will change that.

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STFU moron.

>will each be available for individual purchase within MCC as they become available

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>least amount of enemy variety
objectively untrue, games without the flood have less. also, new additions like Jackyl snipers, H2 brutes, form style flood and prometheans are bad, so more doesn't mean better

>weapon variety
but best weapon balance in PVE

>minimal story
this is a good thing. lorefags should stick to the books.

>outdoor playspaces
Non linear levels with incredibly smart environmental design that leads you gently into several ways to take on every encounter. Only weak one is the beginning of two betrayals

>indoor reuse
Yeah, completely backwards and with new enemies. Reused assets is a meme and was never a problem. I bet you think the Library is a bad level too (protip, it's the best flood level ever made, and the only one that actually feels like a gauntlet)

>level themes
Weak problem but a problem

Other game problems:

2:
>unbalanced, broken, unfinished
>too much story focus not enough fun
>too linear and railroady compared to CE
>arbiter split sucked

3:
>only sorta fun story
>most levels are meh design with only a few highlights

ODST:
>one great level the rest meh
>weak characters

Reach:
>ugly
>boring story
>literally whos
>only one level better than 'eh'

Halo 4:
>cringe so deep story
>lorefaggotry
>samey fucking locations
>prometheans

5:
Don't think I gotta attack this one, nobody defends it.

Sure
halopedia.org/Halo_Legendary_Crate/Data_Drops
Series 2 and on the image on the right read Halsey's comment about Cortana, it's the Cortana Letter.

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MLG and classic playlists don't. Funnily enough, those are the only tolerable ones aside from Invasion.

They are also DEAD because Reach kiddos don't actually want to play Halo.

Cope

Actually no, I started with combat evolved and I think CE and Reach are the best two Halo games. 3 is pretty Kino too tho

People can shoot, melee, and throw grenades while the bubble shield is active. You can't do anything while you're in armor lock, plus you're invincible.
5's abilities are worse than Reach's abilities. They're all bad for Halo nonetheless.
You can't melee, throw grenades, or shoot while you're in armor lock. Go back to COD.
Halo veterans don't like Reach. Only Halo fanboys and people who started with Reach do.

This, I hate revisionist Reachfags so much.

>Reminder that Reach received overwhelmingly negative reception on release

You're fucking retarded, the AAA review crowd slurped it up just like all the other halo games.

Halo 5 is the worst Halo game and you're a zoomer faggot if you disagree. The MP and SP are a disgrace to the entire franchise.

Says the faggot that gobbles up 343 cock.

There is literally not a single thing I want to do or play until this comes out.

How are you guys doing it? I need it now.

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That's a check, 343 shill! See

>Halo veterans don't like Reach. Only Halo fanboys and people who started with Reach do.
This

Just for the sake of actually providing insight, here is a list of people who didn't post any reasoning, but just stated their flat-out opinion as if this was some fucking survey.
I'm tired of clicking. You get the point.

same man

i was hoping sooo badly that it was gonna be a shadowdrop and that we'd get it all the day it announced, but we gotta wait just a while longer. to be honest i'm a bit fucking annoyed they're doing the drip-feed strategy of giving us one game at a time (and making us PAY for them individually one game at a time). I'd rather just have the whole thing.

>the AAA review crowd
Why do Reachkids always bring reviews up, if critics were worth listening to then Metroid Other M would be a great Metroid game, but it's not.

autism

>NUH UH YOU AREN'T A REAL HALO FAN IF YOU LIKE X

Remember when we had comfy late night halo threads and we actually had back and forth disscusions about stuff rather then just angrily shitposting

Learn to read.

>if you love Halo CE-3 but hate Reach you're a 343shill
That's not how it works, pablo.

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This is what happens when pcfags get into a community

It's just one guy that shitposts these threads. He hates 2, ODST, and Reach. He has autism, but nobody ignores him. There's also some other faggot that defends Halo 5 shit, but he's not as vocal.

We've been dabbing on reachniggers since 2011. Dunno what you're smoking.

>one guy
It's literally half the thread you Reachtard.

Everything after it is even worse

Nice boogieman, sport. There are dozens and dozens of people who think that reach sucks in every one of these threads.

We're either 343shills or PCfags to them, they can't accept the fact that Halo veterans don't like Reach.

As if Reach didn't cause endless shitposting 7 years ago. It still does now because its a divisive game with a lot of shitty design decisions and was very clearly half assed. Bungie couldn't even be bothered to make maps for it and completely ignored Beta feedback.

Reach has been getting the short end of the stick it deserves since it released and thats unlikely to change.

Yes you shitpost a lot.

Agreed. There's nothing more homosexual than Halo 5's gimmicky gameplay. Faggy spartan charge for the ADD kids, ground pound for the lorefags, and thruster pack for the bad kids that like to pussy out of 1v1s. Everybody that defends Halo 5 should be curb stomped. At least Halo 4 actually had good hit registration unlike 5, though it was overlooked since most people left in the first month (and rightfully so). Halo 4 had potential. Failed miserably.
Fanboys are not welcome in this thread. Get the fuck out.

That doesn't make it good or worth talking about or acceptable to like.

We want classic Halo going forward. Reach is NOT classic Halo.

no one has ever liked reach

>Not to mention the amazing art style
hahhahahahahahah

I'm tempted to go back and replay the campaign on my 360 but I think I'd just be disappointed at this point.

fuck off faggot i loved reach and so did my friends

This, even Marty came out and said that the team just didn't care in the Waypoint Vice interview.

Yep. It's like 343 took what everybody disliked about Halo 4 and turned it up 500% across the board. The only single positive thing I can think about (other than visuals I guess) in 5 is the forge mode. I'm not huge on story either but the story is just embarrassing, I have no idea how something like that happens. Genuinely. What the fuck were they thinking, how could they have thought anyone would have ever liked that garbage?

>3:
>most levels are meh design with only a few highlights

halo 3 was pretty much constant unique action arenas with tunnels connecting them. I felt it almost had TOO many highlights even

>ODST:
>one great level the rest meh
>weak characters

imo odst had the strongest characters of the games, besides the obvious like cortana and chief. The whole game is the journey between the rookie and your squad

>objectively untrue, games without the flood have less. also, new additions like Jackyl snipers...
I I meant more on a per mission basis: For most of CE's missions, 90% of the enemies you encounter are either grunts, jackals, or elites, using the same 2-3 weapons.

>but best weapon balance in PVE
Weapon balance doesn't really matter too much in PVE: I'd say H3, Reach, and hell, even 4 and 5 (5 has great weapon balance in general) have better experiences with weapon use in the campaign then CE even if CE doies a better job of making each gun feel unique just due to the higher amount of them while they are still viable.

If you were talking multiplayer, you'd have a good point here

>this is a good thing...
I disagree, but I'll concede this is subjective. Where it's less subjective, though, is that the lack of the story exacerbates the tedium and repetition issues by hiding it less.

>Non linear levels...
Maybe it's just been too long since i've played CE (last time was in 2014 when MCC came out), but I really don't recall this. ALmost every major outdoor playspace that's not just a short dive between structures is very wide open and empty. They aren't "non linear", aside from mission 2, and mission 2 is shit

>Yeah, completely backwards and with new enemies. Reused assets is a meme and was never a problem. I
It's absolutely a problem, because it makes it feel like you are redoing the same shit again over and ove,r because you are": Same enemy types, same set of 5 weapons with a few exceptions, same basic room layouts, same room visuals, over and over and over. In 2 onwards each room at least was vissually distinct and felt like real places.

> I bet you think the Library is a bad level too
I can respect what the Library was trying to do in terms of making you feel stressed and overwhelemed, but that doesn't make it any less tedious

I'd reply about my thoughts on 2 onwards but it's 4:30AM and I need to sleep

>Guy brings up negative reviews
>Other guy brings up the good reviews it got

>>LOL DUMBASS Y U BRING UP REVIEWS THEY LITERALLY DON'T MATTER AT ALL LMAO!

Please kill yourself.

It's not just me, why is it so hard for you guys to accept that many fans don't like Reach? The game didn't look or feel like Halo to me when I played it in 2010.

do you guys think halo 6 has any chance of being good

we know they're going the nostalgia pandering way of trying to fix things after the disgusting mess of halo 5 but do you think there's any chance they actually learned anything?

I don't know why you spergs are crying about Reach. Not only is it a good game but even if it was its not like its the only Halo game in the MCC coming to steam, it being their does not take away the fact we are getting Halo 1,2,3,4 ODST and Reach.

you and your friends are faggots. Enjoy highschool next year

>to me
Nobody cares about your autism opinion.

I tried so damn hard to like Reach, I played it multiple times in the past to see would my feelings change about it but every time I played it I hated more.

Highlight levels, not highlights IN the levels.

Game was too railroady and linear like 2. To be fair it's the second best after CE. It's just CE is in a league of its own in terms of engagement and level design.

Lol someone’s mad they got slapped by a player with armor lock

True Halo fans will never like nu-halo

I probably AM the Halo 5 guy you are talking about

I defend 5 in these threads, but I always try to get people to explain their opinons and disagreement, and I always try to explain why I think Halo 5's mechanics work so people have context for why I think that way and so they can try to give counterarguements

I just want to promote actual discussion and understanding between people, user

>People who started playing Halo with CE know that Reach isn't a Halo game.
This. Still fun though.

They obviously know what people want. The Reach TU literally attempted to strip all the CoD aids out of the game and they had an entire DLC scheme based around classic content and playlists.

Then they just fucked their shit up for two games so who even knows.

And that's a good thing!

You sound like the Reach defenders from Bungie.net back in the day.

i'm nearly 25 you retard and i guarantee my friends and i are superior to you in every measurable way

lol someone's mad that reach fell off in a year when it took 3 three years.

Yes and yes

Okay I'm sorry, user.

>Highlight levels, not highlights IN the levels
okay I can totally agree with that. they all sorta blend together and in a very linear and real-time story.

>It's just CE is in a league of its own in terms of engagement and level design.
couldn't agree more. it was a clusterfuck of it's time, but it turned out amazing. I love how the dev commentary, they're roasting all of their own plot holes like going from silent cartographer to assault on the control room

Reach is bad, fuck bloom

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I'm thinking 343 always wanted to make a classic Halo game but Microsoft got involved for two games.

They can't please both crowds. They have to pick. The CODfags and zoomers can always leave and nobody would miss them. It depends on how greedy they are.

how embarrassing

There's no such thing as "classic halo", the only things CE, and 3 really fundamentally had in common is even starts, but 5 has that as well and people still shit on it

when you say "classic Halo" it just means "What I personally think Halo should be with no objective basis", or "I want halo to be exactly how it was between CE, 2, and 3, with no innovations and changes at all"

Looool the incoherent typing comes out

Take your time user, I promise I’ll read your next post and give you another (you)

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There is a chance. The community is slowly coming to terms with the idea of a classic Halo returning. It can happen.

We've just gotta make SURE they know:

Classic Halo = 1/2/3
Not Classic Halo = Reach/4/5

I WANT TO FUCKING PLAY HALO NOWWWWW GOD DAMN IT

JUST TELL ME WHEN IT'S OUT

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Nice strawman and admittance you don't know Halo.

Not an argument, cry about it faggot

>2:
>unbalanced, broken, unfinished
>too much story focus not enough fun
>too linear and railroady compared to CE
>arbiter split sucked
The sheer amount of out of bounds exploration, glitch abuse (sword canceling, super jumps, banshee/tank launches, double shotting, etc.), easter eggs, and the intensity of full skull runs shatter your "not enough fun" bullshit. It easily has the most replayability of any Halo campaign. And what do you mean by unbalanced and broken? Hows about some specifics here because everything was useful if you knew how to use it. The SMG and pistol are arguably weak by themselves, but that's why they let you use two of them. The arbiter sections were also fantastic as they let you experience the universe from a different perspective, one that would have been impossible from the chief's eyes considering the language barrier and all.
>complaining about linearity in a fucking Halo game
newsflash buddy, they're all linear as fuck

Halo 2 has inarguably the best campaign

lol fuck off 5shill, no one is taking you seriously

we get that you like to play with other 5 little kids on earth that still play halo 5 and you liked to groom them, no need to keep prattling

THIS, the dude that leaked it said the game was basically finished

The drama over bloom was and is fucking stupid

Halo 3 already had random spread on all it's guns. Reach's bloom merely made it so you had an on UI indicator for the amount of spread, and also made it so that your first few shots would be more accurate, and by pacing your shots, you could stay more accurate, vs in Halo 3 where guns were fully random at all times and there was nothing you could do about it.

It's objectively a better system then spread as it existed in 3.

tfw only one who loves 3 and Reach equally

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Yeah I'm confused. Guy said it was practically done and he was sure it would be released but we're getting this drip feed shit. I'm almost getting the impression they're going to release these games over the course of months. Real bummer if true.

I think it was said we get more info on the 15th or 17th, so sit tight.

What was that anti-reach fags? Can't hear you.
>BRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAP
Oops!

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So explain what's so fundamentally similar about CE, 2, and 3 that subsequent games altered?

How? They are two completely different games.

That's like saying "My view of what America is and supposed to be is different than yours", when we all know America was founded for whites. Halo was created with a simple gameplay concept in mind which made it great:
Melee-Gun-Grenade.
Every game after Halo 3 abandoned its foundation and suffered for it. Halo CE, 2, and 3 are classic/true Halo games. You don't like those games because you sucked at them or you never played them. You're a coward, a pussy, and a shill that hates Halo.

Stop copypasting this bullshit.

Predictable "sphere of influence" > modular "sphere of influence"

Adding timing introduced luck to the equation with no optimal strategy.

I do too user

2 > ODST > 3 = Reach > CE > 4

5 is bipolar between having a utter dogshit SP and great MP so it's too hard to place

yea its a much better system, thats why the competitive scene died off completely

oh wait

And? That's why I love them both equally. They were both super fun to play and both had great campaigns and amazing multiplayer experiences. Only thing I'd say Reach has over 3 is the Forge mode.

Equal starts, top mobility and weapon use at the same time, powerups on map and not at spawn, jump mechanics similar, similar aiming, similar map desing because movement wasn't fucked with.

Spread isn't bloom.

Fuck off OP, you samefagging cumguzzler.

I like reach tho

Competitive scene died because Halo is a no skill console shooter.

Except Halo 3 litterally broke the golden triangle of guns, grenades, and melee by introducing equipment, while Halo 5 returned to it and preserves the golden triangle.

So how is Halo 3 classic Halo, but Halo 5 isn't?

>You don't like those games
I love those games you fucking nigger, I just also think 5's MP is solid

>5fag

Yikes

>Yikes

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First, BR spread is gay, but its a more consistent form of gay than Reach's bloom. a fully bloomed DMR reticule has a wider spread than the Halo 3 BR, and will cause you to miss shots at mid range. Despite this, you are statistically more likely to win DMR fights at mid range by spamming than you are by pacing. Do you see why this is bad?

You are chained to RNG, and even the TU reducing the bloom to 85% didn't really change shit. There is not a single good playlist with bloom and anybody sane disables it.

Equipment was the worst part of 3 but they never broke the game because of how situational they are. Still only available on the map and not at spawn ONE USE ONLY.

Everyone having retard powers that break the map and combat engagements doesn't make it balanced, it just makes a shit baseline.

>amazing art style
reach was the LEAST halo-y artstyle of any of the halo games to date. At least Halo 1-3 had a very consistent artstyle, with upgraded graphics. Reach said "fuck that" and redesigned so many things that shouldn't have been redesigned, and made the game way grittier than any halo has a right to be.

Go take a look at reach's developer commentary if you need an insight into how little passion that the new team had for reach. they were just changing shit for the purpose of changing shit.

It was a fucking spit in the face to the fans, and anyone in this thread who says that reach was the worst received halo on launch is 100% right. Bungie.net became a warzone that split the bungie fanboys from the halo puritists

based
based but unironically

so it had a scene when it was being broadcasted on national tv, and then it died, because reach was dogshit

glad we got that covered.

I'm glad to see another person who agrees.

I didn't play much of 5 but I know every Halo fan hated the campaign and from what I saw of the multiplayer it actually looked like a Halo instead of 4. I don't plan on ever playing it, but the multiplayer looked good.

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Shit opinion. Didn't read after the first sentence. Also Reddit spacing.

You can melee, throw grenades, and shoot when the power drain, regenerator, and bubble shield are active.
You can't melee, throw grenades, or shoot while you're sprinting.
You can't melee, throw grenades, or shoot when you're thrustering.
You can't melee, throw grenades, or shoot when you're clambering.
You can't shoot or throw grenades during a spartan charge.
You can't shoot or throw grenades while ground pounding.
Broken, unbalanced, non skill based trash. 343 can't even show Halo 5's population. They're cowards like you, bitch.
You don't understand Halo. You hate Halo. You ruined the game I and others here grew up with, and for that I hate you and everything you stand for. Like I said before, you all need to be curb stomped.

>reach was the LEAST halo-y artstyle of any of the halo games to date.

Have you seen 4 or 5?

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Bloom is litterally just spread tied to fire rate/that is displayed on the UI, as opposed to a static, unchanging level of spread/spread levels you can't see

Because the DMR's specific values for it's spread/bloom were fucked; not because bloom itself was bad as a mechanic and because the competitive community were fucking retards that tried to shoehorn the DMR into the same role the BR was when that's not what it was designed to be.

>Predictable "sphere of influence" > modular "sphere of influence"
Bloom is still predicftable, you know how wide the radius will be per shot in successon.

>Adding timing introduced luck to the equation with no optimal strategy.
It's objectively less luck based since you have more control over the spread's radius and at low bloom the radius is lesser.

You are also ignoring how plenty of weapons already had bloom in past games, such as the AR, and bloom in rwach merely made the spread expansion visible on your UI

> Despite this, you are statistically more likely to win DMR fights at mid range by spamming than you are by pacing. Do you see why this is bad?

Yes, I'm aware of that" As I stated above, that's really more a problem with the specific spread and reticule expansion valuyes the DMR has then with bloom itself as a mechanic. When people say "bloom sucks", they actually mean "bloom on the DMR sucks"

On other guns, it functioned fine, and it outright benefited some such as the AR greatly.

>Didn't read after the first sentence
That was in the third sentence, nice deflection though!

>art style

everything is gray is considered an art style?

Finally get to play online without having a shitty subscription for Gaybox live

>because the competitive community were fucking retards that tried to shoehorn the DMR into the same role the BR was when that's not what it was designed to be.

if only the creators could have provided a weapon to fill this slot. hmmmm sounds like a great game

Spread is something that all weapons have except the sniper and beam rifle.
Bloom mimics recoil, and Reach was the only game that had bloom (recoil).

They’re releasing then in chronological order, and yes Reach is a prequel to CE, so that one comes first. They probably want new PC players to understand the story.

>reach was the LEAST halo-y artstyle of any of the halo games to date.
>was
>to date

nice reading comprehension, but I don't disagree. 4 and 5 look like the product of every uninspired, generic sci-fi dumped into a toilet bowl

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Don't need to read to notice Reddit spacing, you brainlet.

>and making us PAY for them individually one game at a time

That's absolutely untrue, once you buy the collection you get all of them, you just have to wait.

It's pretty iffy these days even with gold. 360 matchmaking on Reach is frequently completely broken and it takes multiple days for 343 to do anything about it each time.

>top mobility and weapon use at the same time

This is litterally the only part of your post that 5 breaks. let's pretend 5 didn;t have sprint, but still had thrusters, hover, and slide, and you can shoot while doing so: Is 5 classic halo now, since now you can use top speed and weapons at the same time? Would you be fine with it then? if not, why not?

And I seriously doubt it that if 2 or 3 had introduced sprint you can't shoot while doing, that you would have been as assmad at 5 as you are at those games.

Explain how any of them, other then charge which I agree is broken horseshit, actually breaks the map and combat engagements

>b-but it makes getting from one end of the map to the other take longer due to them being stretched out!
Not inherently a bad thing, and it's outweighed by the greater amount of interactions that occurs over that span of space as a result.,

not him but look at this ---> either you have to buy them individually or it's just saying you can pick and choose what you want or get them all

jezus christ do you faggots have to be negative about everything? halo is late boomer core, if you're going to argue halo is for zoomer then you're doing the same for DMC3 and UT2K4, besides, you're getting all the fucking halos, rejoice

jezus fucking chrsit you people just do it for fun it seems

That's not what the phrase "to date" means ESL. If you wanted to say that you would say "at the time".

Yea Forums forgot how to have fun
dont worry, halo will set them straight

Optimal strategy.
>1st game gets the zoomers
>2nd game gets the boomers
>3rd game gets the esports shitters
>4th game united them all
>5th game is a bonus treat
>we can all laugh at the sixth game with no population

Equipments were fun tide-turners that people rarely actually used to great effect. Armor abilities were just dumb and annoying.

Too bad reach will kill it before real halo comes though

No, since it fucked up combat spacing and map traversal.

That's what I was saying, bloom is just spread that increases each time you fire.

And no, past games had it too on some guns: The AR got less accurate the more you fired it, for instance, there was just no UI indicator of this.

Firstly, such a role inherently makes the game centralized around it due to it being so absurdly versatile. This is also why competitive halo is fucking trash, it's built around bad weapon balance where one gun dominates the meta and all non power weapons barely see any use.

Secondly, they did, it was called the needle rifle. But people didn't wanna use it because "covenant weapons are gay", because the competitive halo community are tryhard faggots

>later this year
>later this year
>later this year

Welp confirmed we're going to have to wait months for any release on PC.

I'm afraid of this. PCfriends trying Halo reach and thinking every Halo is like that.

Reach is so garbage lmao

Shut the fuck up with your shitty boomer/zoomer shit. Just makes you sound like a fucking retard.

>combat spacing
Explain

>Map traversal
It improved map traversal, there's a far larger amount of potential map pathways as well if you know how to utlize the abilities, as well as skilljumps as a result

>full auto vs burst fire

This

>let's pretend 5 didn;t have sprint, but still had thrusters, hover, and slide, and you can shoot while doing so: Is 5 classic halo now, since now you can use top speed and weapons at the same time? Would you be fine with it then? if not, why not?

Yes, as long as you could do so while looking in whatever direction you want. If you remove sprint you contract the map size so engagement ranges are shorter and the game plays faster. Sprint is and always will be the biggest offender. The issue with the other shit is that it fucks up map traversal and you can't shoot while doing it.

>one gun dominates the meta
>im a bad kid that cant use the sniper and doesnt know when rockets spawn
too easy

Wait what the frick

This. You all are fucking lucky that Microsoft gave a shit to bring ALL the Halos to not only their shitty PC market but to Steam as well. You don't only get Reach, you don't only get Halo 1 remake, you get ALL. IN. ONE. PACKAGE. Something everyone has wanted for what, 10 years? You guys need to show some gratitude for once in your fucking lives.

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thanks for the correction user

And the pistol was semi auto, yet the BR occupied the same role it did. Hell, the fucking DMR is semi auto as well, it's not burst fire either

Semi auto vs burst vs auto isn't important, it's the overall niche

Yes, I'd be sad because all the future updates would bring in games with less features.

This

You don't instinctually understand how thrusters fuck up combat spacing?

More ways to traverse doesn't mean better. It eliminates risk and forces map designers to put us in kiddy cages so the shit can't be exploited too bad.

Skill ceiling is far lowered because the old punishment for failing a jump was death. Now it's a boost or a clamber away!

>wanting quantity over quality

Reachniggers are just like 343cels. Same arguments.

Halo is and always has been balanced around a utility weapon. It sounds like you're just butthurt that the sandbox balance is shit, but the cold hard reality of it is that all the weapons in reach except the DMR are shit, and that making the DMR worse doesn't make them better.

The NR is a random piece of shit on 100% bloom too, it doesn't fill the same niche as the BR.

>Excepted to be playing Halo CE yesterday
>Now I'm gonna be waiting the entire year for the privilege of playing Halo:Reach instead

I mean, I'm still glad we are getting these games on PC but I may seriously just skip Reach entirely. I wanted to re-do them in release order.

When is it coming out bros?
I want to buy it like a good little bitch.

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>entire thread filled with boomer/zoomer
>someone calls it out
>HUR SHUT UP WITH THAT SHIT
find the nearest roof and jump off it thanks

You should one of the biggest mistakes in life was not listening to my gut feeling and not buying Reach back in 2010.

>skipping reach
This.

>Excepted to be playing Halo CE yesterday
that's on you you dumb idiot, lol who would expect that

>PCfriends trying Halo reach and thinking every Halo is like that.
Nice bait. Everyone who plays on PC has played Halo on PC

>buying each game individually
How much will it cost? I bet 100$ atleast for the entire collection.

They had to find some way to fuck this up. We probably wont get 2 or 3 until mid 2020

Reach has flaws, yes. It is not as good as the other games, yes. But? It is fun. :)

Can't say that same for Halo 5 though lmao

Reach is the second best Halo right after ODST though.

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no one knows

and it's fucking destroying me, i want to play it right now

best halo game

based and odstpilled

The rumors were anything, from nothing happening at all to the entire MCC + Reach dropping yesterday. As we got closer to the release time it was basically confirmed we'd get an announcement of the MCC for PC, but the real question is when it'd release.

A lot of companies do the whole "and it's available... TONIGHT!" thing now to build hype, so there was some hope. Even after hearing they'd do a "staggered" release, that could mean they were going to start and test the waters with the first game. But nah, we are getting reach some day. I think I'll just go play Halo CE anyways, by you know, installing the damn game that already exists. I'm not waiting until december to finally play a game from 2001.

Halo CE is already on PC?

The absolute worst kind of Halo fan.

You don't even need Halo: Reach to even understand the story, it's just there.

Stop bullying reach.

>This is the point where I realize I can't do Halo 1 CE co-op on PC
>And it seems to be buggy on Halo 2 as well

Well neat, guess I'm just waiting for Halo: Reach soon™ instead

>Halo is and always has been balanced around a utility weapon
Yeah, and Halo's weapon balance has always been shit too as a result. Even CE, where each gun had a unique role it preformed well in, was still overcentralized by the magnum

>utlity weapons in spoilers
I miss old /hg/, even though it was a flaming trashfire

I said "aside from power weapons"

And the BR has always been as as fucking shit to use, skill was never the iseue

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Get the fuck out of here.

Nope

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But 4 is being released last, it's in chronological order.

Reach should stop ruining our franchise then.

REMINDER THAT REACH BROUGHT IN SHITTY ENHANCED MOBILITY AND UNEQUAL STARTS THE TWO BIGGEST FLAWS OF THE PAST TWO GAMES

N
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No that was 343.

stop posting this epic meme you fucking shitposter

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user you're supposed to say "X,Y and Z" not "X and Y and Z" .
It looks dumb.

Reach had loadouts, sprint, jetpack and evade.

343 are total niggers, but the foot in the door they have used as legitimacy for their crimes is reach.

And you faggots STILL suck that game's dick. Because MUH BUNGIE CAN DO NO WRONG.

why? its responsible for killing the franchise. I had to wait 5 years for MCC to release to enjoy halo again

This, fuck Reach

don't forget to mention a shit campaign

Did they announce anything?
Dates?
Crossplay?
Play anywhere?
Or was it just another 343 circle jerk of releasing another broken game?

Oh my god, this, this is why I hate these fuckers so much.

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Calm down, fag. Reach was just okay, and I like the previous games more. 343 made everything a lot worse.

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fall
yes
explain
yes and no

>Fall

Wait, did they actually say that anywhere or is that speculation? Because that's a damn long time away.

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>later 2019
traditional halo season is somewhere in the fall

Reach completely shits over all the other Halos when it comes to customization at least. There are so many fucking different looks for your Spartan and it applies across everything, even campaign.

Pissed me the hell off even trying 4 and 5 because there's less than half the variety, the armor that is there all looks like plastic shit, and it's all earned through stupid fucking REQ packs instead of earned just by playing the goddamn game.

>when it comes to customization at least
people who have problems with reach don't have a problem with that, or the concept of being noble 6.
Everything else is poo

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Regarding customisation, reckon there'll be any way of carrying over our Rank progress from console to Steam? I really don't wanna start all over again

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I imagine they'll just auto unlock all armor

I'd be fine with this, as long as they don't neuter it to presets like the other games in the MCC currently

haloreach.isnotcanon.net/

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reach fans

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This

this

That

That shitty game startet the fucking sprint, and weapon layouts trend in Halo.

>Halo bad, CoD good.

>Putting words in my mouth

>best forge
Halo 2 Anniversary Forge is better than shitty Reach forge.

>Muh muh Fortnite, Apex better

Apex is better though.

It sure will have all the amour pieces unlocked like the other games in MCC.

desu you can be a veteran and a fanboy at the same time

the worst thing about reach is the forgeworld maps, not armor lock

Played them all on release (except for 2), Reach is good.

>Halo overrated, Apex underrated hurr durr
Found the fucking zoomer.

>visuals don't matter in a visual medium
Go jerk off to capeshit faggot

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This is the most correct post on this board across all halo threads, aside from the forge, everything looked too samey. No bitter boomer or underage zoomer will ever get it without acquiring taste.

dis

this shit is still kino

There's a lot of things wrong with Reach.

stop the fucking infighting and be glad we're getting halo holy fucking shit, i dont hate reach and its not my favourite either

this desu

What's the point in playing Combat Evolved's multiplayer when I will have Reach? Seems odd to start with the game with most features and then go down to the one with the least.

we're just having fun mom, for as mush as i disdain reach i'll still play through it and play it online calm down

>One of the worst science fiction plots ever put to paper.
umm no

>Apex is better though.
hi zoom zoom

because the features implemented in reach is shit.
see this this is why we shit talk reach

oh ok dear

That's what I thought. Maybe they'll add some new features to those games.

>halo 3 PC remastered will look like this?!

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I prefer 3, but I'll play Reach until it comes out

there are, but it's a decade old now and I'm not even mad anymore. It may as well be a different game on pc with the unlocked framerate. I'll happily play it until 1-3. It's definitely not an "objectively bad" game, it just different. What I can say is objectively bad though are things like forgeworld maps, there's just no defending that in any scenario. Or the recycled campaign maps in multiplayer (boardwalk? more like boredwalk lol)

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you got one of those things correct

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Someone please post the Halo 3 wojack going home image.

Wrong guy nigger. Halo CE is, and always will be my favorite halo.

>zoomzoom the game is better than Apex
You're the zoomzoom here.

Reminder

Halo CE > ODST > Reach > Halo 3 > Halo 2

don't (you) me redditarians.

Does this look like shit to anyone else? Something about it is really bad.

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I couldnt bear through Reach because of garbage story that shat on lore in favor of "muh tragedy"

not really bad

not really it's fine

what triggers me though is shit like the warthog redesign. They ruined it in h2a anniversary.

it looks fine
it's probably just the colour scheme (or lack thereof) and how every single thing there is brown

Soulless.

95 and above is literally zoomer

the chief levels look like shit compared to the arbiter missions, it's the color scheme

Fuck yea, used to play Halo coop. Played Halo Reach a LAN parties arranged by the university.

you're not wrong

original = dramatic, vivid

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How is this not ready to play yet, is it coming saturday instead?

FACTS: reach had an extremely kino campaign and extremely kino player customization and i will highly enjoy playing it at a good framerate

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new = dull, soulless

the old looks more like something from a dream, it's more artistic

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>starts to call halo a overrated franshice
>says apex is better
>now halo ce is your favorite halo
Are you fucking retarded?

Wait are the games not all releasing simultaneously?

>Zoomie

probably so they don't make the same fuck ups as the initial launch

I guess they don't want to cuck it like they did back in 2014.

>Doesn't announce price
I should be worried. I guess if it gets jewy enough I can just buy Reach by itself save some cash. Not like I'd have buddies to co-op Halo 1-3 with anyways. Can just pirate those campaigns.

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can't argue there but really there are examples of anniversary looking real good

they are

t. staff captain with 4500 hours of custom infection games

Halo in general is Zoomer. Might as well go full Zoomer because no self-respecting 30 year old Boomer would ever consider Halo a good fps.

I never played Halo and I'm unironically extremely hyped. I had a GC when Halo 1 and 2 were coming out.

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You're in for a good time user. If you haven't been spoiled to everything somehow then please do yourself a favor and experience it to the fullest

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>halo 1 came out 2001
>literally boomer and almost boomer tier people grew up playing it
fucking zoom zoom faggot

Can you turn anniversary off like Halo CE Anniversary?

yes

That's more of a millennial game.

so not zoomer

...

Fuck off twitter

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Honestly it's the best Halo
>but muh colors
>but muh waifu

Why are they even wasting resources on Halo 4, bros? It's wasting everyone's time and money. Drop Halo 4 and sell the MCC for 50 bucks instead of 60.

Halo CE: 7.8
Halo CE SPV3*: 9.0
Halo 2: 8.8
Halo 3: 9.3
Halo 3 ODST: 8.5 (After they finally got it fixed)
Halo Reach: 8.2
Halo 4: 5.9
Halo 5: Dogshit.5

*I only included SPV3 because it was legit one of the best experiences I've had playing halo.

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>Best multiplayer
Reach
>Best forge
Reach
>Best firefight
Reach
>Best campaign
Halo CE, 2 and 3

I love every Halo, but reach had the best multiplayer by far. The others had the best story, specifically halo 3 and that mission where you assault that base against those scarabs.

Absolutely disgusting.

Doesn't help that The Case or Uncaged or whichever version this is was pure AIDS.

It's my favourite too, the aesthetic works for the tone of the game; main trilogy's a space opera, this is a war game. First game where I feel the Spartans actually look like military assets instead of space knights.

But to each their own! Everyone has their own preferences and that's okay!

FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT
fag

faggot

No, but you are. I came in at saying Apex is better than fortnite. Apex is most certainly not better than Halo 1, 2 or 3. You're trying to shovel me in as another faggot despite me telling you i'm a different faggot.

Stop being a dumbass.

best*

>first (and last) good Halo since CE
>worst
Fugg?

no not fugg
fag, which you are

Competitive MP
2 > 5 > Reach post update CE > 3 > 4 > Reach pre update
Customs
5's potential > 3 > Reach > the height of 5 customs > 4 > 2 > CE

The main problem with Reach is thst on release it was a pure downgrade from 3. Complete garbage that ruined any competitive scene left and also, while giving more options, was too difficult in forge to make fun shit easily.

Reach uses the destiny engine

Halo1/2/3/4 use some thing els

Are you retarded?
It'll be $60 for everything, each game will probably be $15, ODST will probably come with 3

is it good halomaps.org is going to die?

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I get to enjoy comfy reach multiplayer and custom games with long time friends while boomers stay on fortnite and Yea Forums boomers stay on halo 2 and 3.

God is real.

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>reach had an extremely kino campaign
Kinda tho not as good as odst
>kino player customization
Yes
>and i will highly enjoy playing it at a good framerate
The mp could be 4k 144 fps and it would still be ass

Reminder to start here newfags

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I meant zoomers

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literally the second worst campaign in the series

>2
Nah, 2A sure because it gets rid of the shit maps that no one liked
>But muh long wide open fields
2's mp is already going to be a shitshow on PC since everyone is going to easily 3 burst fucking anyone at near infinite range. Honestly Halo 2 is the kind of thing shooter that was best off on console for the reason of the BR

based 250 IQ fact

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>boomers stay on fortnite

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This was the only real problem with Reach. Literally zero maps on release.
TTK and AA got ironed out, but all they added were forge maps.

reddit

objectively one of the best maps in the entire series but you're hating.
>Yea Forums cucks at their best.

>best forge
Seriously can you reach faggots just fuck off with this meme already?
5 has the best forge. That's fucking objective. If you pull out the "muh simplicity" argument than 3 had Reach beat by a long shot, and the fact that 4 customs lasted not only from 3's release and up to Reach's release should show that, but they were even almost as popular for the first year or two after reach was out

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At least the new Halo 5 maps were unique, even the couple of forge garbage maps felt new

>no midship
>no turf
>no waterworks
>no creek

>all grey UNSC interiors
>unique

You know bros, sitting down, playing a few games, a Fightfire maybe even a daily campaign mission...save up that dosh for some armour pieces, that was fun....comfy

I just want to do that again...

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Halo isn't back, and won't be. 343 can't make a good halo to save the life of them, and Infinite is going to be about the same as the old games as "Communism with Chinese characteristics" is to any other form of communism

look, mommy! i replied to everybody!!1

I'm sure those maps will be so much fun getting laser BR gibbed on PC

Halo 3 and 2A will be the only playable MP games because 2A's maps have plenty of room to dart between of you don't have a BR or Sniper, and 3's BR is awful RNG shit past 15 yards

Nobody seems to be talking about whether this will kill halo custom edition, which has an active community

Also
>arguing over which halo is the best
Halo ce and halo 3 are the most consistently active games to find servers across multiple platforms, and they're generally considered the best in the series by many.

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I'm not sure what point you're making when Chinese communism succeeded (albeit with a horrible populous and a totalitarian nightmare of a government) while Soviet, Korean, Cuban, and Vietnamese communism all failed

>2A's maps have plenty of room to dart between
Yeah, Coagulation and Relic had plenty of cover.
>if you don't have a BR
Why would you judge a game based on the worst way to play it?

>Why would you judge a game based on the worst way to play it?
Because in matchmaking you start with an smg and a pistol unless it's a variant with BR starts

I don't think there are any matchmaking variants in H2A that aren't BR start.

The point is that chinese communism isn't communism at all, its state capitalism
Infinite isn't going to be like old halo like they are saying it will be, its going to be a shitty knockoff because 343 is full of idea-guys and people who unironically add things in because they think it could be "badass"

please god give us support for custom edition maps for halo 1
opencarnage.net/index.php?/topic/7455-halo-15-maps-converted-to-ce/
youtube.com/watch?v=hDpXuXFPnyI

It was already being looked into as of a few months ago, but wasn't a part of any specific milestone.

People complain about loadouts, but the loadouts were specific to different game modes. Reach also had armor abilities which added another layer to the game, but was also pretty gimmicky. The weapons and vehicles were alright but 3 was still better. Story was different but still good. The forge and customs in reach were way better though, and that alone makes it better than 3.

Unironically this but user you must understand, zoomers hate maps that aren't 3 lanes and boomers hate maps that aren't wide open sniper ranges.

What in the unholy fuck?

Even reachfags admit that reach's maps sucked. THEY HAD TO RIP THEM FROM CAMPAIGN BECAUSE THEY RAN OUT OF DEV TIME LMAO

HALF THE MAPS ONLINE WERE FORGED

this guy fucks

so are we getting the butchered version of reach?
I don't remember too much, but I do remember playing it again once 343 did their great balance patches and it was missing half of the fun matchmaking options, I think even custom maps matchmaking was entirely gone but I'm not too sure anymore

Halo Reach is firmly within the top 10 of games that are legitimately fucking great games, but for some reasons still get hated on profusely by a small group of fags on the internet.

It‘s not that bad. The forge game mode let‘s you do alot. I don‘t remember it being in the earlier games to the same scale as reach (if it was in the games at all). If it actually comes to steam I‘d buy it for that. But shouldn‘t it go into the xbox store or whatever it‘s called?
Not to out myself as a halofag, but I spent quite a lot of time dicking around on forge island with my old friends in highschool. Would be cool to do that with my new friends. I think reach had a survival gamemode too, didn‘t it? Now I want to play reach again.

I'm a boom played combat evolved Al day ervday on PC and reach was pretty fun when I was in college got a lot of it playing with roomates

Weak bait

>good halo games
anything made by bungie
>bad halo games
literally anything else

>once 343 did their great balance patches
>reach
?

This. Shame about destiny

i thought reach was one of the good ones?

>reach
>good halo game

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3>2>CE>ODST>5>4>Reach

Reach is best halo

3>2>CE>ODST>4>Reach>5
ftfy

To be fair, it’s a good game, but not really halo. Still better than 4 and 5, which aren’t halo, and aren’t good games

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1 = 2 > ODST > 3 > Reach > Shit > 4 > 5
FACT

agreed, but 4 had a better story

1 > 3 > ODST > Reach > 2 > 4

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>4 had a better story
It literally shit all over all of the previous games stories.

how can one man make a post this based?

But 3 is the worst halo game user

youtu.be/GKiZkpCXwVw

Autistic 2fag detected

WHERE ARE MY BUTTON COMBOS MOMMY AAAAAAAAAA

The story? Yeah. It's like the writers just fucking gave up. Halo 2 had a completely fucked dev cycle and still managed to churn out a fantastic character arc for the Arbiter.

>fish looking at truth

Both I would consider shit. Reach ruined the great backstory set up in the books, and was just generally anti climactic. Everyone was expecting the last stand of the spartan II’s, a huge war waged between humanity and the covenant, and what we got was a stealth attack (somehow) and mostly these new OC spartan III’s never before mentioned until now. They skipped over all the interesting shit they could have done. But then 4 is just as guilty for this. They could have taken the story anywhere, done ANYTHING, and it’s just “fight the covenant on a forerunner thing” again. It was so fucking unimaginative and shit

NPC.

Human.

This, I was confused for years as to why truth just had a completely different character now. They literally just made him insane to justify lazy plot decisions

Halo 1 starts with the Pillar of Autumn finding the ringworld after making a blind slipspace jump to flee a battle. The battle they were fleeing was the invasion of Reach.

Why do halofags rate games based on the online?
How can you take the pvp in console shooters seriously lol

not really, coincidentally it suffers from almost every problem reach has, the difference is that halo 4 was able to actually have emotional moments that were moving,

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>these new OC spartan III’s never before mentioned until now
they're in ghosts of onyx (2006)

all the nylund novels are trash btw

>It's like the writers just fucking gave up
more like they didn't exist. they had all moved on to other projects including destiny already. Halo 3 was written by a committee overseen by Marty.

You just admitted you weren't there so I don't know what you're doing here.

What? 3 sucked because the new enemies, new weapons, new maps all sucked. The only people who like 3 are babbys who never played 1 or 2. And Reach is better than 3 in every way. Reach=2>1>4>>>>>>>never played 5

I don't even remember 3's story desu. I probably only played it once because I didn't like the game at all.

>not really
yes literally. fuck the nu-canon. pure onions.
the whole "chinks in chiefs armor" was literally the entire point of halo 2. Halo 4 is the same exact shit but overplayed and overwritten for retards.

You got me. I should be ashamed for not being a newfag halobabby.

agreed but one thing 4's narrative has over reach that despite reach being a tragic and heroic last stand it gets btfo in the emotional department by 4's messy but memorable execution and the cortana/chief plot.

Don't get me wrong, they are both shit and i am not saying 4 is better than reach as a whole.

youtu.be/QBHxDMSlrdg

Alright.

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>accuse people of not playing
>hurr I don't remember I never played

Reachniggers everyone.

People need to wake up and realise halo 3 had a shitty plot

this was not meant for you but himhowever
>the whole "chinks in chiefs armor" was literally the entire point of halo 2
i didn't get this at all from 2, and 2 is to me the best halo campaign and i obsessively analyzed it to death. The only actual character in the game that has an arc or development is the Arbiter.

FUCK Reach

It wasn't SHITTY, just mediocre. It more than made up for it with good levels. Something reach lacked.

123 are kino you fucking reach faggot larper

Literally kill me, at least we get halo 1 soon after

Don't worry lad we'll slap a ReShade on it.

>REACHing this hard
lmao

>wake up
by all means "awaken" us you clown

>Something reach lacked.

I disagree.

Based

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1 and 2 are excellent. 3 is absolute garbage

It was simple and it did everything it needed to do elegantly. Plot doesn't matter. Delivery does.

You're allowed to be retarded, just don't speak up about it.

They better include the TU version. Otherwise it'll be vanilla, which is gay vomit.

Based falseflaggging 343cel

this faggotry is unheard of.
None believes you when you say 1 and 2 are great but then say 3 is garbage.
Fuck off larper

I don't know what you're trying to imply here, but 343 took over Reach once Bungie left and they changed quite a few things up.

Why is a different opinion so threatening to you?

well you are wrong

This is my biggest fear. Ideally they just have all of the TU options available in the menus so we can customize things. They were all per-game modifications in the first place and the variables could be tweaked further than what we got.

Prove it.

ill take your word for it, reach didn't last a year with me

H1 and 2 had guns that shot straight. 3 and Reach don't.
3 introduced a bunch of needless gimmicks like shield doors, and made melee broken.

Reach wasn't that bad you spergs

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Its nostalgia goggle syndrome.

Why not?

are you talking about how some weapons went from projectile to hit scan and vice versa?
either way you are objectively wrong on the matter
>3 introduced a bunch of needless gimmicks like shield doors
>so it's garbage
retard

reach made fighting in spaceships boring.
done.

It looks like a pretty fun top down shooter.
>no coop
So much for that.

No, Halo 3's BR was specifically programmed to be random, and it has nothing to do with hitscan because CE had even slower projectiles than Halo 3.
>gimmicks that impact the game negatively make for a bad games
Yes.

>they ruined the br by switching over to projectile based
>so it's an absolute garbage game
retard

hold up, does this make the BR bad? cause i easily got dozens of triple kills with it?
the hell is your problem.

It wasn't.
Done.

You're doing this on purpose, aren't you? There's no way you can't be pretending.
youtube.com/watch?v=YNo-WyMbGHs

I wasnt bored.

>space ship combat
played literally the same as every air vehicle section in the series.
fuck long-swords and fuck reach and fuck you