1>3>5>4>DmC>2

What did he meme by this

anyone putting 1 first is just being a contrarian
3, 4, and 5 all have some argument for being best

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DMC could be released today and could be deeper than most action games.

1 has the best world and level design and that's inarguable.

I still think 3 is the best, although 5 is probably runner up.

DmC>all

>anyone putting 1 first is just being

Or they just like fighting enemies and not juggling them for 20 seconds for a youtube video.

3 is the best by far, stop being dumb

i would put 1 lower not sure how rank 3 and 5 but DmC is better than 2 and 4 while good has the problem of being half a game but its better than DmC but for me 1 and 4 are close together while 3 and 5 are at a tie

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Based. DMC1 is the best game in the series, but 3 is pretty close too

>DmC is better than
No you have shit taate

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More like facts.

I don't like DMC1 Camera and combat. Complementary level design was good though.

its got pretty shit characters and had an almost distain for the original series and fans
but it had some cool designs for environments and monsters aswell as a alright soundtrack
the gameplay was better than 2

can you literal fucking hipsters just stop already, I like DMC1 too it's a good game with good parts to it but it is nowhere near objectively better than the later games jesus fucking christ

no one, and I mean literally no one that has ever said 1 is the best has ever provided reasonable facts as to why, just subjective "muh atmosphere" and "muh mature cool dante", they are the literal definition of hipsters and it drives me up the fucking wall, probably exactly what they want

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No.
5>3>4>1>2>DmC

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they claim that the enemies are more aggressive, which lessened the need to make them more spongy in later games, so that your wailing on them as stylishly as possible didn't have to be the main source of entertainment and challenge
it's not really true but that's what they claim
never seen an actual argument with proof of this, however

in any case, they're literally making an argument for why Ninja Gaiden I is better than Devil May Cry games

>it's not really true but that's what they claim

It is though, play the fucking games. DMC3 DMD is fucking stupid.

>in any case, they're literally making an argument for why Ninja Gaiden I is better than Devil May Cry games

NGB is the best action game ever made though. You make it sound like it's pre-agreed that we all like DMC better.

>You make it sound like it's pre-agreed that we all like DMC better.
We do.

>so that your wailing on them as stylishly as possible didn't have to be the main source of entertainment and challenge

Excuse us for not wanting to juggle a DT Sloth forever and ever as our endgame.

The enemies in 1 felt way more spongy than enemies in later games for me. Or maybe it's just that you're more limited in your combos, so endlessly wailing on damage sponges in 3 feels a lot more satisfying than in 1?

Just give DMC5 melee enemies ranged attacks. It's what DMC1 did. Now, You can style on them while trying to dodge their projectiles. It's not really stylish or cool when it's so easy to juggle an enemy without barely a worry of something else trying to kill you in the air.

Except I don't, so there you go, undermined.

Anyone who thinks 4 has any merit left after DMC5 is out is mentally handicapped. All DMC4 had was technical combat and DMC5 has that with more polish and more options. On top of being a finished game and having a better everything else.

4 is still fun to play and 5 being better doesn't change that

Hello Matthewmatosis

>a good game stops being good because its sequel is better
That's not how it works kid.

5 > 4 = 3 > 1 >>> 2

>The enemies in 1 felt way more spongy than enemies in later games for me.

Objectively untrue though, in DMC1 DMD the enemies have less health than the Hard Mode enemies do (not a lot) until they DT, in DMC3 DMD the Sloths get 4 times as much HP if they DT, and get a significant anti-stagger property.

Nothing in DMC1 lives long (indeed, some enemies can be one shot with the critical hit mechanic or taking advantage of elemental weakness), but neither will you if you can't fight. That's all DMC is, fighting your way through, not 'look at this juggle combo I made'. NGB is the same way.

You weren't utilizing your Devil Trigger moves correctly if that's the case, shit's OP.

DMC4 wasn't a good game. It was a game people put up with because it had technically sound combat with a level of depth not found in previous installments despite those installments being better packages. 4's quality wasn't changed with 5's release, it was just made obsolete.

Exactly, unlike DMC3's DT it was actuallyworth using.

I don't know. It feels like DMC5's gravity, enemy step and easier JC promotes too much air mobility. It makes the game feel easier than DMC4 in that regard. I wasn't even going back to it other than Bloody Palace since level design is aids to walk through.

Except it was a good game, you just have shit taste.

Only played the first 3.
They all fucking sucked. The camera is pure aids and everything is janky as fuck. Being old is not an excuse.
DMC fags have nostalgia goggles on.
I have heard 5 is good but I can't be bothered spending 60 bucks on an 8 hour game.

>DMD
I'm an actual casual and only play the default difficulty in DMC games. V is the first one where I've bothered progressing into Son of Sparda mode.

I'm too small brained to learn DT moves. The only one I can remember using consistently was the lightning spam.

Nice blog.

>fighting your way through, not 'look at this juggle combo I made'
DMC is about style. This is not up for debate.

3SE>5>4SE>1>3>4>>>DmC

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yeah same, kind of felt like I had to do a normal combo three times until they died for most normal enemies

Style is not synonymous with comboing.

This

DMC1 came first, nice try. And it's actually stylish, just not YOUR stylish. And doesn't contain hp bloat punchbags for enemies.

If you're a nostalgiafag maybe.

I'm just gonna say this. My girlfriend of 4 and a half years broke up with me and these threads have been filled with so much joy that it's really helped me.
I love you all so much.

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lol

You're on a newer brighter path now son.

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Pwned

Get outta here, dude.

3>1>5>4>DmC>

>never seen an actual argument with proof of this
Literally every enemy have at least one ranged attack and one close range one. In fact, enemies in DMC1 have diverse move sets in general which in tandem with their aggressive AI makes them an actual challenge to beat. A basic ass enemy like the Marionette has a melee attack, a grab, a launcher and two ranged attacks (knives or shotgun), essentially meaning they could fuck you up in a group if you aren't careful. This isn't even getting into the higher difficulties which grants enemies even more moves or AI behavioral changes Pic related is the most challenging enemy in the series and for good reason.

>Ninja Gaiden I is better than Devil May Cry games
It is better. NG has greater enemy design which makes for more fun combat. Why do so many people forget the most critical part of an action game is enemy design? Half of 3's enemies were trash and 4's was entirely shit. DMC should have improved from 1's great foundation but it just went backwards.

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3=5>4>DmC>2

True, but good combos required skill and skill is naturally stylish.

>DMC1 came first
Not an argument.

What do we think about V, Yea Forums?

V has come too

1 > DmC: DE > 5 > 4 > 3

Know someone on this planet genuinely feels this true. Revel in it bitches.

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I agree DMC1 is the only game that is actually engaging. In 3, 4 and 5 the enemies just stand there waiting to be combo'd. A game is only as fun as its challenges are to conquor. In 1 there is a process to defeating enemies in certain ways and the sword and guns are equal. In the other games the guns are used pretty much just for comboing. Theres a lot more to talk about but i dont want to go on

Dealing with Shadow was hard because the camera was trash and you had to rely on guns for the most part. I also don't like getting hit by knifes or a shotgun blast in the face from off screen. I do think DMC5 enemies should have ranged attacks though.

>1 the best
What's wrong with you

V is whatever. He's a bit more entertaining to use in DMD.

V is the ultimate pleb filter.

100% this, no one ever takes enemy attacks into consideration when talking about combat and it's the stupidest fucking thing.

>Not an argument.

Hence the rest of the post, idiot,

You can hear those attacks from off screen, game is actually well designed and has audio cues. Get gud.

Pleasant surprise, best boy and new husbando. One of the highlights of DMC5.

V also delivered some good memes right off the bat... so is written.

>he thinks the challenge in DMC3 onwards comes from the enemies
You don't play the game to beat *them*, you idiot. You do it for *you*.

I gotta replay DMC1

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>Hence the rest of the post
The rest of the post contained no argument.

Him being Vergil's human half was cool.

NOOOOOOO YOU'RE PLAYING THE GAME WRONG WHERE'S THE CHALLENGE REEEEEE

>The rest of the post contained no argument.

Have fun reading the rest of this thread, even though you won't be able to actually follow it.

>That secret mission where you fight 3 at once

Godlike. They have more attacks than some DMC3 bosses, lmao.

I was actually entertained by DmC regardless of how shit it is, but DMC2 is such a boring slog of a game I was struggling to stay awake by mission 5.

Pray tell, what about becoming a universe exploding bug demon has something to do with fighting your way through?

Reminder that Nightmare is the best boss in the series.

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That's a weird way to spell Nevan.

Based.

The only good thing 1 have is Enemy design (and its amazing, i will give you that)
But if Enemy design is the key point, 4 should be the second place.

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Nevan was a shitty boss.

5>3>1>4>2 is true ranking, plebs need not reply

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I'm genuinely convinced that DMC1 fans on this board are either matosis fans or boomer contrarians. Kinda like how NGB is only ever brought as a way to trigger DMCfags or for the occasional console war thread

I'm partial to nelo angelo 3 but yeah nightmare is top tier as fuck

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I love 2

I'm sure she had good reason if you've been enjoying DMC-general

The 3 shadow fight in a NG is unironically harder than anything in 3 besides Vergil 3.
And people say Cerb is a casual filter

My exact feelings, with a power gap between 1 and 4

Never played NGB. Shitposting aside, is it worth?

>3 below DmC and 4
Lol no

2>5>3>4>1>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>DMC

Never played the DMC series but it warms my heart when a new installment on a long-dormant series to be as good or even better than the old ones.
Hearing all of this love towards 5 reminds me of when Mortal Kombat 9 was released.

5>3>1>4>2
I can't tolerate how unfinished 4 is anymore. It's basically only good for Bloody Palace. I used to think it was okay to be half-finished, but 5 is just heads and shoulders so far above 4 it's silly.

Absolutely. If you enjoyed it try out 2 and Razor's Edge as well.

Pro-Tip: Sigma versions are fine as well if you don't own an Xbox/360/One

>4's was entirely shit.
DMC4 literally takes enemies and design philosophies from 1, how are they shit?

I just go by what i'd be willing to commit replaying right now. DMC1 and the reboot have the best levels and pacing I feel. Don't have the same attachment to itsuno's combat system, 3's lack of overall feedback on attacks kills it for me and the enemies are fucking boring.

5>3>4>*

Vergil is okay but he's not even the best fight in DMC3 imo, the fight is more of a spectacle than anything.

Nevan is really fun, I like that she has actual words as audio cues. Wanted to fuck her so hard

I love that you can fight Nelo multiple ways and he hits like a god damn truck, but Nightmare is the deeper fight to me, and more fun because he feels like he could do anything because he was halfblob-half demonic swiss army knife.

Yeah im bummed Black is Xbox only. I know its backwards compatible with xbone but still sucks. Might need to finally pick up an S for older xbox games

Its good for a two play throughs , one on normal and one on a higher setting. Yea Forums pretends it's flawless despite 2 doing things better then it and Izuna drop and Flying swallow being near game breaking. I say two playthroughs really because there is no NG+ sadly

literally nostalgiaglasses: the boner edition opinion

NBG is an absolute classic, if possible, play the Xbox version for the first game but Sigma is okay because you won't really know what you're missing which is really specific shit. I really think NG2 and Sigma 2 arep ractically different games though, IMO NG2 is by far the hardest action game, it's pretty unfair at points, like NES hard but that's why its the most satisfying to beat on Master Ninja Mode.

>Ocarina of Time Ganondorf fight is hard

You're just the exception, there's no ruling power within that.

>4
lol no chance in hell now that 5 is out

>NG2
>Hardest action game
Pressing Y after literally anything isn't difficult

No, 2 is better.
1 is slow with no moves, cheap bosses, shit platforming out the wazoo, and can more easily be cheesed

Nightmare is a great fight if you are into in-depth bosses mechanics.
If you ever were into MMOs, Nightmare should be a real fun boss in a character action game.

1>3>5>4>2
I never played DmC so I can't rank it.

I fucking love DSD's moveset.

Agreed. For once OP wasn't a faggot.

>Vergil is okay but he's not even the best fight in DMC3 imo, the fight is more of a spectacle than anything.
Only him and Agni and Rudra function as actual opponents
The rest are just action game bosses in terms of how the fights go (Cerberus, Jester), or worse (Centipede)

LMAO what, NGB has completely fair bosses, NG2 bosses are the ones that are inconsistent.

Yeah, there's a lot more to the game then that, but okay.

I'm a little sad that in DMCV he's a golem, even Griffon still got to be a bird, they could have at least had some of his armor on there.

*generic action game bosses

There's no way that 1 is better than 3. 3 is a masterpiece of action games. 1 might as well be in another genre. It's a great game, but 3 is perfection.

>D-DMC1 enemies are more fun to fight than later DMC enemies!!!
>but stages only judge you based off of how quickly you cleared the stage and not combat performance, discouraging combat more than any other game in the series
this kills the DMC1fag

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don't forget my nigga beowulf

but yes most DMC3 bosses are actually shit

Be nice user there are only 4 DMC1fags in this site.

3 has no style switching and limited weapon switching and styles you'd never want to use unless there was style switching
the camera is bad almost like DMC1 and the level design is nothing to praise; the bosses are largely boring with few exceptions

Beowulf is the exact same shit as Berial

>I'm a little sad that in DMCV he's a golem
No bones or anything either. I'm most bugged the shadow looks so normalized, and when you fight it you're free to just melee it instead of pushing you to try any fancy gunslinger shit. I don't care if they're just apparitions, lame af man.

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They actually do judge your score based on on combat too....well at least according to kamiya

berial doesn't let me whack him in the face with his own cages

also I feel beowulf is where most people lose their royal guard training wheels

Meh, a boss is a boss, as long as it tries to kill you, I'm at least interested. A shit boss IMO is say, everyone's favourite ''''''actual good bit'''''' in DmC, Bob Barbas. Who you beat by jumping through patterns on a wall and pressing pads on the ground then hitting him while he does literally nothing. Literal platformer tier boss. At least Cerberus still fights you.

>1 might as well be in another genre

It is imo, NGB and DMC1 are a different type of action game than DMC3 and Bayonetta.

agreed

>calling 1 cheap while defending 2
2's boss design ranges from low to shit tier and it only gets worse when you look at the actual levels

/thread

>the final fight with Phantom you can kill without actually attacking it
>DMC1 had death scenes as it was an RE4 prototype
cool details

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Watch a DMD S Rank Special Bonus run, there's plenty of fighting, plenty. And the game has forced combat like any other game.

NG2 bosses are cheap as fuck and nconsistent, but at least they're actually fun, fighting Genshin in MNM feels like a real fucking deathmatch.

I'm having fun with DMC4 right now though. Just because it's short (and a couple of other small issues) doesn't mean it's a bad game.

I haven't played 5 yet, but otherwise I agree. DMC1 is the only game in the series I really enjoy enough to replay.

you're also describing Agnus's first fight in DMC4

he hungry

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Not a lot of people know that (or how to make Phantom jump on the glass on purpose). Or for the secret Phantom fight inthe Fountain room for that matter.

Remember how Phantom had character, and actually chased you throughout the Castle (like Griffon). Far cry from bosses like Angelo Cavaliere, a boss who is just there and nothing else.

(1,3,4,5) > (2,DmC)

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Hands down theworst boss in DMC history.

that's not a DMC5-specific problem, that's the series since 2/3.

I think bosses in 3 and 4(besides Berial) still have bosses in their own domain. It's not as good as bring chased, but it's better than in 5 with bosses just showing up.

Ignoring DMC2, I think Centipede in DMC3 being cut would improve the game, with how unfulfilling and unfun it is
DMC4 at least flexes its unique mechanics with how you're supposed to beat him

Gilgamesh is an easy counter to that argument, shoulda tried to make it with DMC4 and 3.
>But Phantom had character :ccc
he runs through a hall and screeched about Sparda, big whop. The only boss that has any character from 1 now is Griffin, and that all comes from 5

There's all sorts of cool shit in DMC1 like this as a result of the residual Resident Evil mechanics left over from the game.

I dunno man, even DMC3 had something to most of the bosses, like, Agni/Rudra and Cerberus were gatekeepers and both had very different ways of engaging Dante before the eventual fight. Lady is a protagonist who fights you over difference in opinion, Beowulf has personal beef with Sparda and he's taking it out on you, etc.

I think the shittiness of Gigapede is overstated, he's way better than something like Geryon or Arkham. You can do all sorts with Gigapede, you don't even need to jump onto his back to kill him, you can hit his projectiles back him or whatever.

Yes definitely will keep on edge when playing genuinely fair and balanced challenge that's ball breaking but not retarded

Flock off, Griffon in 5 is an annoying shit. Isn't he voiced by that Nolan North or something too? Dude has no soul. OG Griffon had that smooth jazzy filter, oh baby i'd fuck that voice no homo.

It has like 2 and arguably 3 or 4 actually good fights but at least their memorable which I guess is more then what I can say for NGB tho

The DMC series never went far for one major reason: It was literally an accident. The original DMC was going to be RE4 before they changed it and turned it into its own game.

It's not like Capcom sat in the office one day and said "Hm, let's make a brand new series and call it Devil May Cry". It just happened by accident.

this

>Gilgamesh is an easy counter to that argument, shoulda tried to make it with DMC4 and 3.

Nah, until you learn to elaborate on your arguments instead of just namedropping them, Angelo is just fine. I literally don't know what you're trying to say, if it's too complicated, don't bother.

>he runs through a hall and screeched about Sparda, big whop.

And talks to Dante when you first meet, gets obsessedwith killing him midway through, is visibly angry the second fight that this literal who is kicking his ass then shits his pants when he realises who Dantge actually is. that's a fuckton more than almost every DMC3/4/5 boss and your greentext oversimplification doesn't mean shit.

3>5>4:SE>1>DmC>2

As much as I hate DmC, 2 was a far worse game and should be recognized as such.

5 and 3 could be interchangable

5>=3SE > 1~4SE > DmC:DE > 2

The placement of 1 and 4 is entirely dependent on what your favorite aspects and characters in the series are. I can't even equate them because they're basically on opposite ends of the spectrum. 5 is a straight improvement from 4 taking inspiration from every previous title (including the reboot) but 3 still beats it in a couple ways so I can't say it's absolutely superior right now. I'm 99% certain that 5's post-launch content (in lieu of an SE) will push it over the top though.

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This, DMC5 is really the only one that can be seen as triple AAA and that's only cause of the absurd amount of fans begging CAPCOM

So are you but nobody's blaming that for the reason you're still just shitposting here

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What are you so buttmad about? What I said is all true.

NGB had a few standouts, the first Nunchuk guy who was the gatekeeper for the game like Cerberus was for DMC3, Doku 1 and 2, Alma 1 and 2 (one of them ost infamous 'how do I beat this boss' bosses of all time, action game wise)

>DMC series never went far
why do retards continue to say this, during DMC3 and 4's run DMC was one of Capcom's best selling series, it only ever died since they tried to reboot it for no reason then had no fucking idea what to do with it after the reboot flopped since people liked DMC for being DMC.

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Calm your tits

The only thing changed was the title. It was DMC in everything but name before the change

That's what I'm saying though. They have no idea what to do with it. There was never any point behind, or SOUL if you will. It just happened by accident.

I do agree combos and wacky fighting took over the game but it's definitely fun

Every time I see somebody say he's boring to play I don't get it. I've only done the two missions with him so far (I got my copy late) and I can feel that he's got a lot of potential. I think the only weird thing is doing the lock-on moves based on where the summons are facing; I can't get Griffon's Back-Forward attack going consistently.

Nightmare is fucking incredible though. So much fun to summon, watch, and control. I killed Geryon Knight by taking out the remaining 10% of his health bar with Nightmare's meteor summon. I think if we could control what summon we get (in non-context-sensitive encounters) for Nightmare he'd be so perfect.

No, that's wrong. It's literally why Dante looks so much like Leon. DMC was the first iteration of RE4, then came the Hookman version, then finally the shitty version we got with the Mexicans.

No

Yeah, all that concept art detailing what would become, just accident.

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Literally concept art of RE4.

Based wife

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Try again.

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It shares the aesthetics but gameplay is different

>finally the shitty version we got with the Mexicans.
RE4 was amazing though

That's not what you were saying at all, he was talking about what they wanted to do after the reboot flopped, not the first game
And stop hitting enter after the reply link, it's wasting post space on your mindless drivel, or keep doing because it makes it easy to mark out your shit posts

That's why he has a gun and now a sword. This is what RE4 was going to be.

>Royalguard buff literally saved Reubens life from the gunshot
thank god itsuno let up on the mechanics

not**

This desu anyone that thinks otherwise is a nostalgia fag

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this

>aging, white weeaboo banks on gaijin-fever to bag teenage japanese girl
kinda pathetic desu

>calls people nostalgia fags
>has nostalgia for 3 and in like a decade will have nostalgia for 5

Nigger

Ironic considering Royal Guard has been nerfed ever since DMC3.

>people give out arguments in the thread

Nostalgia!!!1

fun as fuck but in a game where Dante and (post-game) Nero both have absurd amounts of mechanical complexity ultimately a disappointing addition due to how simplistic he ends up being in comparison and what ends up his role in the story. Thankfully his low amount of levels somewhat alleviates this. 7/10, can't wait to play as him again when bloody palace releases and DD2 drops with a summoner class.

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As someone fairly new to the series and yet to play more than a couple of missions from 5:

3 > 1 > 4 > 2
I'd probably like 1 more than 3 if the game didn't deflate so hard after the first or second Nightmare encounter. I love the bosses; I love the enemy design; I love how snappy the game's pacing is; I prefer the tone and Dante's characterization. 3 has more that annoys me than 1, but it doesn't fall off so hard and stays more consistent. I think all three are great, though, and very close in quality. I don't think 4 is that much worse than 1 and 3.

>have accepted that I'll never MAX ACT on command
>just accept it and be happy whenever it happens

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He's Dante---he can get shot in the forehead and just push out the bullet

This, replaying 4 makes it obvious how weak the game is outside of its combat.

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Holy shit, OP actually has good taste!?

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for me its
3 > 4 = DmC > 5 >1
two isnt on the scale

new game gud
ol game bad

>also watches TrueStyle Tournament vids and says 'this is why DMC3' is theb est, yet can't replicate any of it

You riled up the nostalgiafags kek

>DmC > 5 >1

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Massive shit taste

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>Ironic considering Royal Guard has been nerfed ever since DMC3.
It actually got buffed a lot in 5, it's frame times are on par with 3's leniency instead of frame perfect like in 4, and instead of losing health on not perfect blocks you just lose a little DT instead, it's arguably stronger than ever not even counting the infinite length back counter they added
Was only ever nerfed in 4, but atleast dreadnaught looked cool

yea yea yea
>DmC man bad
the most basic bitch opinion in the fanbase

Im not liking 5. Dante doesn't have any weight to his moves, dialogue is alot more miss then hit, and the enemy designs are utterly forgettable.

>V gameplay could have been Chaos Legion-lite

youtube.com/watch?v=UW3bQYiL0ig

>Shadow will never be that responsive and quick to act as Malicei n this video is.

>454312120
like you even deserve a (you)

Reuben langdons over acting bullshit absolutely killed the series and makes 5 an unplayable shit heap. If they had gotten literally anyone else to do the mocap and va the series could've been the best ever but people love him cause of stupid memes.

>DmCtard thinks his opinion is remotely valid

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1>4>3>DmC

I disagree, it's much much weaker and take way longer to fully charge than DMC3 RG, considering how many ways DMC5 Dante can evade damage outright, why even bother mastering RG outside of a flex? The risk is too high for way less damage over time than full on (S)DT optimal Swordmaster/Gunslinger rape. This is why the RG nerf makes no sense to me, I used to think because RG was the only style you could use in DMC3 if you chose it, it was OP since you lost the dps from having the other styles....but now Dante has everything it just makes RG pointless.

And DmC is better than 5 how? While I understand why you won't hate DmC and all, why put it above 5?

People cried foul when others considered a DMC1 remake, but now that DMC5 is out, do you trust Capcom with recreating the tone and more focused direction of 1?

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>why even bother mastering RG outside of a flex?
>DMC

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>went from never doing it to always trying
>even if I don't always get it, and especially not perfectly, I still get it sometimes
>reaction time has gotten good enough to always take advantage of it when I do and not waste it on basic slashes
I feel incredibly proud of how far I've come as Nero, I used to never used charge shots or even try to max act in 4. Now I'm always getting S-SS in every encounter, sometimes even SSS if I do good with MAX-ACT

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So you can git gud

It was the EXACT same in DMC3 but actually useful.

actually he and everyone else returning except maybe JYB really phoned this one in
I mean just listen to his style changing cries
it's horrendous how downgraded from DMC4 the performance is
even the fanservice nod to DMC3 during the Cerberus bossfight was cringey
youtube.com/watch?v=UG59XtziQDY
youtube.com/watch?v=jIGP5G61KwU

DMC is all about flexing, that's what style's about son.
Itsuno would never do it, but he's the only man I trust to do it.

In other words, yes, it is still objectively nerfed albeit undeniably fun, lol. I'll give you that, the fuckingsound effects on Just Guard and Just Release are nut worthy now, too bad the output doesn't match.

This. There are all kinds of reasons to prefer 3-5, but the idea that there aren't legitimate reasons to like 1 most is bizarre. It's certainly not just mindless contrarianism for the sake of it. DMC1 does shit differently, full stop. DMC3 was a lateral movement in my mind, not an outright total improvement. The emphasis is in different places.

We should limit this to a discussion of gameplay differences by the way---Nero or Dante, take your pick.

It isn't nerfed though. You complaining it is just shows you need to stop being a scrub and git gud

Originally EPIC COMBO JEWTUBE VIDS wasn't what DMC was about. It only became that post 1 because they didn't know what to do with it.

yeah man when DMC3 released in 2005 the devs were really thinking about all the sick combo videos people were going to upload online. Get a grip nostalgiafag.

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I'm sure Capcom will let Kamiya direct it as he's wished to, but I kinda doubt he'll go for the same tone or even make the game remotely similiar in structure in the first place knowing him. It'd probably be something new entirely, gameplay and all. Guess i'd be down to try at least.

A Just Release still does enough damage to skip entire phases of a boss on Normal. Dunno about Son of Sparda yet but the block is ridiculously lenient in general. Try it out a bit on Stage 19, it gives you way more openings than Trickster if you can block consistently. Especially during the part where Vergil goes apeshit in DT.

>Originally EPIC COMBO JEWTUBE VIDS wasn't what DMC was about.
maybe because YouTube didn't exist back when it was the newest entry

>DMC is all about flexing, that's what style's about son.

You can flex without it, arguably in better ways now. IMO Royal Guard should always be ultimate risk/ultimate reward or said flex doesn't mean as much

Takes longer to do everything RG did in DMC3 did, that's a fact. It's objectively nerfed and none of your 'no u, git gud' posts will ever change that. You are just going to have to deal with the facts.

Remakes are a shitty idea in the vast majority of cases. DMC1 has its issues, but I doubt a remake would accentuate its qualities so much as retrofit the game into what DMC3 started. I'd rather just have a new game.

JewTube was booming at the time so yes they wee.

>A Just Release still does enough damage to skip entire phases of a boss on Normal.

And on the whole, takes much longer to get maxed out beyond parrying those super attacks like Cerby's icicle rain. Are you people even reading?

Except it isn't nerfed, the reward is even greater for mastering it now since it's about patience and the damage outcome is even greater because of it. In other words, you need to git fucking gud and learn boss patterns.

Charges plenty fast enough if you use it in lieu of dodging entirely, you get multiple bars on anything that's not just a basic ass easy to block projectile on a perfect guard and you end up getting DT and free openings.

>rather just have a new game.
That new game is just going to be built on Itsuno's design. I want something different personally, and a remake of some kind is our only hope of shaking through that.

>I want something different personally
Then play a different franchise nigger.

Being an old RE-like with hack-n-slash gameplay is more interesting than the stylish action game approach, even if the series reached a greater mastery of the latter.

3>5>4>DmC>1>2

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>DmC>1
Bait post

>I want something different personally
Then play a different game series.
>remake
>hope for something different
Right.

The fact that DMC3 started a culture of combo video uploads is fascinating, and shows how the fans truly made the game what it was. The fact that the big names like Brea or Kail would have made sick combo vids of DmC even if the game was bad but the combat was deep enough but no one bothered was the actual BIGGEST indictment of that game imo, even bigger than the criticisms of Donte being shit and thestory being pretentious. I think Brea made a combo video once and the description said something like "I want dmc back"

>Except it isn't nerfed, the reward is even greater for mastering it now since it's about patience

*crickets*

XD

>git gud

I bet you can't parry for shit, suck my dick.

Dude, you can look up videos of DMC3 DMD bosses falling to Royal Guard in 2 or so minutes, if you can do that with just RG only in DMC5 I'll fucking concede.

>XD
Gonna be a yikes from me lad. Come back when you know how to argue.

I really don't enjoy dmc1, it has shit combos and horrible camera

how about just going back to the design of 1?

>I think Brea made a combo video once and the description said something like "I want dmc back"
it had no styles
that was the single biggest flaw with DmC
they shouldn't have been so lazy to not include it, because that alone could have forgiven everything else about it

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Not DMC anymore. Not CUHRAYZEE enough.

So if i made a rar containing every single DMC release ever made, would it be worth sharing
Yes I am including different region editions
how big would this end up becoming

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does legacykiller still post around here?

No

I think he couldn't handle being laughed out of every thread he ever posted in.

The two things 1 still has better than the rest of the series is

>enemy variety
>environments.

1 had the best enemy lineup and that's impossible to argue. It also had the most interesting environments for both fighting and exploring. The only thing that really holds it back is the lack of more than 2 movesets and the overall clunky, outdated moves Dante has at his disposal. If it were remade it'd be 11/10 perfection.

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are you the same user that made compilations of other games?

>So if i made a rar containing every single DMC release ever made, would it be worth sharing
you can literally just buy all the games for console

I'd extend the same challenge to you I did to this guy But I don't think any videos out of DMC5 utilize patience effectively yet, so I guess it's invalid. :

no
okay but why not have an absolute unit of a rar that has literally every single release to date?

3>5=1>4>POWERGAP>DmC=2

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>overall clunky, outdated moves Dante has at his disposal.

They weren't clunky at all, you just had to commit to using them, and not be able to cancel everything like in DMC3. And for outdated moves they sure showed up in literally every subsequent game. :^)

You have no idea, right?

based

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What's the optimal control layout for endgame Nero?

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youtube.com/watch?v=GZUN89RaP60

>you just had to commit to using them, and not be able to cancel everything like in DMC3
You can cancel all Alastor's sheathing animations though by swiveling the movement stick, and it makes the grounded combat feel great desu. Alternate between cancelling and your other pause combos for a little more variance.

Bros, should I skip 2? I only have 1 and 2 left at this point. Fuck DmC, I refuse to accept it.

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What the actual fuck is journalists' OBSESSION with DmC. It's like DmC was the real game while everything else was a spinoff.

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1 is better than 4 by virtue of actually being complete.

all things considered, he had a pretty fun moveset
should they try putting a proxy of his moveset in the game?

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>t. Matosis parrot

The controls were ass I can't look past that.

>okay but why not have an absolute unit of a rar that has literally every single release to date?
it encourages piracy

God 1's enemies were perfect. I mean you've got
>Marionettes (arguably the best 'beginner' enemy of the entire series)
>The Sins (4 fucking variants)
>The Shadow
>Blades
>Fetishes
>Frosts
>Nobodies
The rest were hit or miss but the fact that 1's enemies keep coming back in some form or other is testament to their enduring legacy.

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and since when has this ever stopped any single person on this planet

they were pretty fine for me, though i played the definitive edition

Millennials and normies, all of them.

Play the first mission or two of DMC2 just to know. Then never touch it again, and just accept that it has really good music nobody every gets to hear and be done with that chapter of DMC.

>I think Brea made a combo video once and the description said something like "I want dmc back"

youtube.com/watch?v=Q2vz5CJU8DM

>I need D"M"C5...

Well, she got it 7 years later, curious to know if it's what she wanted/expected....also note how even the best of the best players couldn't draw blood from a stone. If there couldb e entertainment that lasted beyond the surface level that could be found in DmC, they would have found it. And journalists still insisted we didn't give the game a chance.

You can absolutely skip 2.

Vergil! I love him! So cool.

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what was even unique to him?

Why would they? I like DMC1 a lot -- and I like it for its distinctions from DMC3 as much as what it has in common -- but DMC3 defined the series. DMC5's rather warm reception only affirms this.

Zelda and Resident Evil (among a few others) can juggle (with s-s-style) subtypes under their labels because they're games with large, broad audiences and their subtypes are noticeably distinct even to casual fans. DMC1 diehards are a niche, and most people (even DMC fans) consider DMC1 to be something of DMC3 Lite more than they appeciate it for its differences. I wish it weren't so, but it is. And it's why any remake would simply be made in DMC3's image.

5>3>2>1>4>dmc

>You can cancel all Alastor's sheathing animations though by swiveling the movement stick, and it makes the grounded combat feel great desu.

I know what you're referencing and it's not really the same, but it did feel great especially to skip Nelo phases in one dps window.

>2>1
Elaborate

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Just watch this video
youtube.com/watch?v=lcvw1E0Mcac
It's not even a joke how bad the enemies are in this game. One of the bosses (Big flaming minotaur that's like a proto-Berial) seems to have no AI for when you're far away from him and just stands in one place doing an AOE fire move over and over.

DMC1 was crazy popular when it came out. Like, insanely fucking popular.

He literally had Dante and Nero moves combined, only without styles, db and rev. mechanic

I remember when I joined PhantomBabies.net and most of the DMC pros on there were fucking cocksmokers. Joch in particular I used to respect for her DMC videos a lot until I saw how prone to nuclear meltdowns she was.

He's best boy. Hope he makes a return.

easy weapon switching, some of his weapons were pretty fun

it should've been its own thing, but the PR was like tossing gas into the fire

>people acting like Gilgamesh is the worst boss ever when Arius, Trismagia, Jokatglum, Orangguerra, Geryon, Gigapede, Leviathan, Savior, Sanctus, Bael, and a fucking WINDOW exist as bosses
I just don't get it

This, it basically created the hack and slash genre as we know it.

>2 over anything
How?

Worst fanbase that ruined a character.

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Gilgamesh is fun though. Who's saying it's bad? It's probably one of my favorite bosses in 5.
Cute.

I'd say Furiatauros deserves to be on any worst dmc boss list.

I dont count dmc1 as a dmc game, at least not one to be compared to others. Its Resident Evil with melee.

gameplay 4>5>3
general 5>3>4

>>Marionettes (arguably the best 'beginner' enemy of the entire series)

I'd ay inarguably, they're easily the most dangerous base mooks. afaik the base hells or scarecrows or Empusas had no dagerous ranged attacks like the dagger throw/Shotgun the Marionettes had.

I didn't say Gilgamesh was the worst boss ever. I said he was the worst boss out of everything in 3 and 5. And I'm not apologizing or changing my tune.

I'm aware, but that's irrelevant to what I'm saying. DMC3 irreversibly shaped what DMC is.

No, unironically no. I think there are people talking in these threads who are legitimately too young to remember DMC1's release and the impact it had.

I only agree with the gameplay because Vergil isn't in 5. Yet. Also I NEED Trish and Lady in.

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Is it just me or is anyone seeing posts disappearing?

Bael wasn't bad
the atmosphere of the environment and theme was based, as was the voice acting
it also yielded a pretty high quality Dante scene

What form of power is that?

I forgot about that guy, might as well just say every boss in 2

>gameplay 4>5
Interested to hear why

even if it was just base DMC4 I'd rank it 1 for gameplay.
Not sure why they removed inertia for 5.

Worse than arkham?

Don't forget the scream that immobilizes you. That was the thing about the marrionettes. Like all trash enemies they're easy to attack, but you actually had to be somewhat wary of them because of their special moves.

>DMC1 remake
Fund it

like which?

>there are people talking in these threads who are legitimately too young to remember DMC1's release and the impact it had
Almost certainly, but it's still irrelevant to my point.

Having played through all the games again recently;
5=3SE=1>3>4SE>4>DmCDE>DmC>2

Yes, not even joking. The novelty of fighting with Vergil makes up for the annoyance factor.

Gilgamesh is all annoyance, with no redeeming factors. I knew it would be trash when they showed it in the trailer and unfortunately I was right.

Doesn't hacked Vergil have intertia?

see
If 5 ever gets an update that lets me fly using royal guard, then that changes things

Do we have renders of Sin DT Dante and Vergil yet?

only if they remove the swimming and the space harrier Mundus fight

>*multiplies*
Nothin personnel

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>You make it sound like it's pre-agreed that we all like DMC better.

Well I mean this board is filled with retarded kids whose first console was a PS2 and they never heard about ninja gaiden until someone in these threads said it was better

And its exactly why I fully promote DMC going the muhvel combo route because THAT IS what DMC can do while it simply cant compete with NG in terms of pure combat

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>not liking the bullet hell Mundus fight
But that was the tightest shit.

4 is still better than 5 until Vergil gets added in
you know it to be true
4 will remain better if he ends up being bloody palace exclusive

5=3>1>4>2

I loved 3's bosses, its story, its weapons, its gameplay.

But why were so many of its basic enemies so godawful?

This and picrelated are the most hated enemies I've met in DMC.

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I liked it but fuck me, let me invert the controls

>Well I mean this board is filled with retarded kids

Indeed, see above for the guy trying to argue that DMC5 Royal Guard wasn't weaker than DMC3 Royal Guard because DMC5 RG is 'about patience and mastery'

>THAT IS what DMC can do while it simply cant compete with NG in terms of pure combat

I dunno, I'd argue DMC is a much better designed game than NGB, even if we concede NGB is more exciting to play.

DMC3 is full to the brim with fucking terrible enemies, why do you think combo videos were Mission 2/7 only? My actual favourite enemies to fight in DMC3 were Arachnae because they actually fought you and couldn't be juggled which is why they don't feature in any videos.

this, the inverted up/down messed me up

I've played that part with actual Arcade Stick, it was amazing.

>Like all trash enemies they're easy to attack
Not the ones with the blades on their arms, because they're always trying to parry regular attacks to discourage spamming. Leaves you open for a little bit and allows him and others to take advantage.

>Aesthetic
1>3>4>5>2
>Gameplay
4>5>4>1>>>>>>>>>Note these are all outstanding games in one way or another and therefore their worst is still vastly better than other series "best." DmC wasn't included because it's not a Devil May Cry game.

3>1>4>2>anime>5>DmC

Boo!

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Well, I'd argue that one on one they're still the most dangerous low level grunt, but there's a reason they swarm you, to try to make you not hear/see that they're either shooting from off screen or attacking you from behind when you've comitted to an attack, you had to watch where you and they were at all times, or blow DT to Vortex through them if you wanted to be 100% safe.

Now imagine talking about the Empusa's in this way, Ican't even remember what the low level Empusa attacks look like lol, and I don'tthink given an infinite amount of rendering power that and infinite amount of them would ever give me trouble with any character (except maybe V)

>Indeed, see above for the guy trying to argue that DMC5 Royal Guard wasn't weaker than DMC3 Royal Guard

It isnt because you always have access to it, the fact that you dont need to sacrifice anything to be able to build up attacks that take gigantic chunks out of bosses lifebars means its already more powerful than in 3, just like every other style

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>2>anime>5
Why?

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An infinite amount of them would be even easier for V. Just spam hedgehog/griff's charge lightning attack and then once a few hundred are vulnerable use that special cane move of his to kill them all at once.

Just to prove a point I made way earlier (or might have been another thread entirely, sorry they've all blurred together)these Sargassos at close range take 2 Shotgun shots to kill or something like 1 shot and a Helmbreaker. On DMD they have lower health so the Shotgun one shots them. If this were not the case, the time requirement for getting Special Bonus on Mission 3 of DMC1 DMD (the one that includes Phantom, and includes the Secret Mission as mandatory) would be either too tight if not possible at all.

No ,this means Dante is objectively more powerful than he is in DMC3 and I'd never argue otherwise because that'd be stupid. Dunno' if you followed the thread but the mere fact that you have Swordmaster/Gunslinger for damage and Trickster/Rolls/Jump for evasion make Royal Guard obsolete. When I say 'DMC4/5 RG is weaker than DMC3 RG' I mean the style itself, it really isn't hard to understand.

4 has the best animation of the series

LDK in DMC5 when. And well, there you go. Marionette's are king and always will be.

>make Royal Guard obsolete

but it isnt, if you spend the first half of the vergil fight royalguarding attacks instead of mashing trickster dodges you can now cut the final phase in half with one just release

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PLAYABLE TRISH WHEN ITSUNO YOU CHINK FUCK

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>Trickster/Rolls/Jump for evasion make Royal Guard obsolete.
for the vast majority of enemies yes, which is a blackmark on DMC4's enemy design

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Funny how most of you can't even explain why you think DMC5 is good despite loving it so much, always a pleasure.

I honestly thing 3=5 if not 3 is slightly better atm. DLC will probably make 5 better though especially cooping with bros in the BP.

Goodnight guys

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Stay stylish

>Replaying
Any and everyone has always known DMC4SE/DMC4 is a mediocre game with the best combat in the series but the worst roster to use it on from crappy normal enemies that discourage melee until their defense is broken. But hey atleast Credo is still a top 3 boss in the series.

Fair, but if that was DMC3 RG it'd be possible to skip half the fucking fight.

they think the rocket arm riding and motorbike weapon speaks for itself

I don't think he phoned it in, I think it's moreso different voice direction.

I don't understand how people say DMC4 RG is more strict, you have to parry the last possible second in 3 and 5 too, don't you?

Shit taste

>best combat in the series
Not when distortion exists and the most effective way to play is just spam DRI.

You can't tell me DMC5 has good combat when you can just stunluck DMD agnus with DRI.

>DMC4SE/DMC4 is a mediocre game
I think it's a great game that fell short of what it could have been.

DMC4*

DMC3 / DMC5 royal guard is 6 frames, in DMC4 it is 1 frame. And in DMC3 you can jump for additional frames (doesnt seem to work as well in DMC5).

Wasn't it discovered that you could Distort the Level 2 just release charged Punch Punch Kick Kick for the most dps in the game?

Gilgamesh > Balrog by the way, I fucking hate how Balrog's punch is the flicker.

>DMC3 / DMC5 royal guard is 6 frames, in DMC4 it is 1 frame.

Forgive me but, isn't that moot when you still need to press parry at the same time, I don't think I've ever felt that I parriedearly in DMC3.

yeah im not a huge fan of balrog in 5. I'll probably warm up to it more with more practice, but I much prefer shit like Cavalier R with the air stinger.

One thing is for damn sure, since DMC3/4 no other action game managed to pull of a decent parry mechanic, it was fucking baby mode in Bayonetta and especially Metal Gear Rising, where it was so ludicrously OP regardless.

>Forgive me but, isn't that moot
No, a 500% nerf to frames is not "moot". Royal Guarding in DMC3 / DMC5 is good enough to use consistently, in DMC4 it's nearly impossible unless you're god.

Who the fuck is moot

I guess Cav took the damage spot the gauntlets usually take this time and Balrog changed up the formula with a speedier take on gauntlets.

yeah i mean when ignition is up it still does decent damage and good style, and that midair kick that launches is pretty excellent, as is killer bee. But KC and Cavaliere R are pretty ridiculous this time around.

Honestly I wish you could get rid of DSD, I would swap balrog for it in an instant.

>featuring Geralt from the Witcher series

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Beat son of sparda and maybe you can?? (You can)

>I wish you could get rid of DSD
I thought you could after beating DMD?

>killer bee.

Call me crazy but downward arc has been fucked in this game? I tried to use my DMC3 setup I used on Vergil with the Vergil in this (Sword/Gauntlet) and when he DT's I kept trying to jump dodge his attacks and Killer Bee into him but Dante would never reach unless I was super close.

Unironically DmC had a great parrying feel. Also, Nioh

No you always have to have a sword equipped. DSD actually is the lowest damage weapon this time around all things considered and balrog has the movement options where I'd just take sword off if I could.

No you can take it off.

Killer Bee angles are kind of fucked, yup. I prefer to just Air Trick now. All these reasons are why my autistic ass took Balrog off and use just 3 weapons. I'll probably add it back when I feel comfortable, but just managing three weapons is tough enough as is and there's no way I'm taking off busted Cavaliere R.

If you actually beat son of sparda you should check Dante's abilities in customize then.

But that too had a massive ass window for how powerful it was. Remember how parrying (Intercept I believe it was called) in the DLC for NG1 was so OP it never made it to NGB.

Oh really? Awesome I'm on Mission 18 of SOS, can't wait to put on Balrog.

What was his fucking problem?

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>get 5K+ in each encounter
>last over 10 minutes to the boss
>still can't S-rank mission 8 on SOS

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Lack of motherly love and inherited dad's autism. Also his brother is a dick.

He's a shitty character that's repeatedly resurrected?

This game is so boring. There is no energy to it. I feel like both DMC3 and 4 had this energy to it that made it stand out. In DMC5, it's just one level of repetitive hallways after the other with very boring cutscenes for DMC standards.

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Spbp

Itsuno forgot the story to his own games. Vergil sought power to protect Earth from Mundus. But then he's all about muh sibling rivalry now.

>DMC5 has no energy
Dude, it seems you're just too old for this shit.

3>5>1>>>>And if you bought and played DmC you're opinion should be immediately discarded because you are an idiot and a terrible DMC fan.

shcum

oh I just got S rank on that. I don't think anyone fully understands the style rank system yet but from what I understand:

>The Style Points shown on the right side is your current average for the WHOLE mission
>Style Points are calculated via an average of your time spent in each rank. A is worth 4000, S is worth 5000, etc.
>You can safely run past trash mobs, they will only lower your score. It's unclear if they even count at this point, or if only mandatory battles count.
>Try to get your style up ASAP then stall

The first encounter with Fury might tank your score, I suggest getting to S+ rank on the guys before him and then spamming rawhide to parry the Fury and keep your score up.

There's actually an achievement for beating mission 11 without any weapons equipped.

youtube.com/watch?v=5pdN3I1lMn0

This looks so busted but I can't try it even if I wanted to now. Sad.

3=5 > 4 > 1 > DmC DE > 2

5 has better gameplay than any in the entire series, it's complex as fuck if you're actually good at action games. 3 has the best aesthetic, and in my personal opinion, level design. I miss the metroidvania/RE-esque design of 3/1 where you backtrack and just generally explore a giant building of sorts, solve minor puzzles and deal with respawning enemies. Also dislike the lack of combo machines.

Don't call me a zoomer I'm 26

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Could be. But then I also recently played AC7 and I had a blast with it. I just wish DMC5 wasn't so dull in so many aspects that isn't the pure combat.

I like 3's combat slightly more than 5 in some aspects, and yeah it has far better level design, aesthetic, and SOME bosses. But 5 avoids any shit parts or shit bosses, even if some arent as great as Vergil or A&R or Cerberus.

>no mundus
>no motivation
>now your best boss is your own brother and you just refuse to use gold orbs while fighting him

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Very critical analysis! Very good expression of your opinion!
Very good for the discussion quality of this thread! Fuck yeah!

Does Itsuno write the story? Whoever has been writing it has sort of been retelling the same thing and not coming up with anything new. Dunno if it's due to lack of creativity or pandering.

Agreed wholeheartedly besides combat.

You have to understand Yea Forums is the bottom barrel of discussions. Power rankings especially is probably the lowest form of discussion, even lower than console wars.

1 > 5 > 3 > DmC > 4 > 2
Fight me, I don't give a fuck

And your know why? Because there are no fucking fujos.

These threads are just circlejerks anyway. People regularly say why they prefer 1, but you still have people in this thread saying nobody ever explains why. And arguing over opinions is a bit silly.

I'd still rather play DmC than 2. 2 made me tired and sleepy when I played it.

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>Vergil sought power to protect Earth from Mundus.
He did. Or rather, mainly for revenge and to live up to his father, without the ideals.

But since Dante already did all that, he really only has their sibling rivalry left. This is why Nero beats both him and Dante, because they really lack any strong motivations to fight each other and are merely resorting to petty bickering, while Nero is extremely motivated to stop them from killing each other over nothing.

4 is a half finished piece shit. The core gameplay is good, but the overall game is fucking awful. Bad story, characters, levels, bosses. Everything. Game was rushed and is incomplete. It is objectively a bad video game.

>there's no way I'm taking off busted Cavaliere R.

Isn't that just a skin?

Fuck you! (If you dislike DMC5)

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This

>The core gameplay is good
barely

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>implying DMC5 isn't also half finished
If you didn't realize those copypaste PS2 hallways were the mark of a troubled development, you have no idea about anything.

I'm playing the original for the first time and I'm actually liking the slower pace. The camera isn't as annoying as I thought it would be and some of the angles lead to some kino

Story is bad, gameplay it was the peak of DMC until 5. You're discrediting it for stupid as fuck reasons. How is the gameplay ''barely'' good you shit taste having trannyfag?pre-5 it had the best Dante gameplay and Nero was a cool introduction.

At least it shared the classic DMC exploration aspect too, which 5 lacks.

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DMC4 is an obvious victim of cut content but it's far from bad. Nero and Kyrie are a bit annoying, but I don't see what's so bad about the level design aside from the board game bits.

>responding to literal special ed autists

Read the thread, retards. There are reasons and discussion for why people rank the games in a certain way.

There's no fucking scenario where I could consider 2 better than DmC

DmC was a mess but it was at least still solid to play

>How is the gameplay ''barely'' good you shit taste having trannyfag?

how isnt it

inb4 a link to "combo mad" where you cant even follow whats happening on screen

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Is it possible to clash head on with those spikey roller twats? If so what is the best way outside of DT Stinger?

The combat is a little more deliberate but the game's overall pacing is very brisk if you know what you're doing. Many missions in DMC1 can be completed in only a handful of minutes.

Guns seem to work just fine even if they're rolling.
You can also royal guard them as you might expect, perfect guard just stops them instantly.

>admits he's a shitter
cool, fuck off. nothing you say will change the fact that it had the most complex system till 5.

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>Vergil sought power to protect Earth from Mundus

Vergil sought power to protect himself from being vulnerable and his mommy issues

just back up a bit so you have some extra warning as they rush you

who is this

I think DMC3 leaves that ambiguous. There is that secret ending where he goes off against Mundus.

1>3>DmC>5>4>2

You mean infinitely better than you at the game? I mean its very telling that youre mouthbreathing in these pathetically broad non statements like "most complex system till 5" because you have actually zero clue on the subject and just mouthbreathe while watching combo videos

It had the most tech since 5 and it might have the most tech post 5 if 5 never exposes itself as as buggy as 4, "tech" has nothing to do with the quality of a combat system

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>Many missions in DMC1 can be completed in only a handful of minutes.

Which is why it's actually fun to do S Rank Special Bonus runs. Then Kamiya made Bayonetta where to Pure Platinum it you had to do 20 min missions full of usually 8 or so fights perfectly in a row. DMC4 missions were arguably longert han that,and including the well received Orb Hunting mechanic.

Damn, was hoping Prop Shredder or maybe even Cavalier would cause some sort of grind clash.

Sauce me bro

It's not like Vergil went after Mundus to protect humanity, Mundas was just after a weakened Vergil and Vergil thought it'd be fun to fight the guy his dad did

>DmC>5>4
Explain.

I think if you can manage to hit them from directly above while they're rolling it can sometimes break their back spines. At least it seems like that was what happened for me a couple times.

>since 5
until*

Stop sexualizing everyone

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>we live in the timeline where Onimusha was sacrificed so DMC could live
>not the other way around

F

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I dont like switching characters and I find the game play better, just my two cents

I could happily watch this loop all day.

How is it ambiguous, he says 'Might controls everything and without power you can't save anything, let alone yourself' (not verbatim) so we take from this he thinks you need power to defend yourself and others, there's only one event in his life we know he experienced where that would actually be applicable.

Pic related

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FUCK

It's a trap isn't it?

>Which is why it's actually fun to do S Rank Special Bonus runs
It makes it more fun to replay in general, I think, even if you're starting a save file from scratch again. It's a very memorable game to me, even if I start to lose interest after the last Nero Angelo fight.

Use Faust's timed hat catch move on them. It stuns them and pulls them in towards you. Honestly there's never any reason to take Faust off. It's so good.

trans women are women

unless you think you're smarter than over 150 governing medical associations

or you're on the side of putin, bolsonaro, backwards ass hillbillie motherfuckers and people who 20 years ago said the equivalent thing about gay people (or still do)

I've never played Onimusha. Maybe I should.

Bleh, sounds like it's either DT Stinger or RG (neither of which Nero or V have) if you want consistency. Thanks anyway, sounds like it's going to end up as a really annoying enemy.

Ibsexualize ur mum

this is the kind of shit that makes me ask people in real life if a "woman" is truly a woman

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I'm the emperor of the universe. I identify as the emperor of the universe and therefore am above any counterargument. You must cease posting immediately and destroy your computer. That is my order.

I want 1000 free orbs

>trans women are women
Lmao. 0 women will agree with it.

Issen chaining a room > Just Releasing a whole mob

COME AT ME

She looks like she has no breasts in the blue haired webm though.

The fuck did this retard mean by this

Kill a few enemies

Are apples oranges aswell? DNA do you know what this is?

In addition to Faust like I said, spam Cerebus' swordmaster moves on them. It just fucking shatters their armour.

There are millions of XY cis women who have wombs and can give birth

lmaoing @ u

lol this

youll get a million if you max out dr faust first and then just spam the gunslinger/catch move in mission 13

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Oranges are canonically a part of the apple family.

>It makes it more fun to replay in general

Well, both are kinda' one and the same thing. And you'reright.

You'll take your free GOLD ORB a day and like it.

But does that Hat thing interupt them mid spin?

>"tech" has nothing to do with the quality of a combat system
guess that's why dmc3 was modded to be more like dmc4 dante

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I swear to god the faggots who put DmC above 2 are morons.

How fucking stupid are you? Do you even know what "tech" means? I mean I know the vast majority of this board is completely braindead shitters who dont know anything about their one mouthbreather tier hobby but expanding your movelist has nothing to do with fucking finding tech in a game

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4 > 3 > 1 > 2 >>

So, how does DMC5 perform on the Xbone S?
I really wanna play this shit but my PC can't handle all that power.

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Based opinion

>you will never be face down underneath that bouncing.

Name 3 please, you're a fucking liar

>dmc fans tell me kingdom hearts is too kiddy and easy, to play dmc instead
>its easier and more cringeworthy than kh

Come on now

nice semantics, but DMC4 and 5 have bigger movelists than 3. It's objective that they are more complex and deep gameplay wise. The new antshitters are more aggressive than mannequins too. Do you really wanna keep going?

or are you fine jerking to someone fucking a literal surgical wound and talking about things you dunno?

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>more cringeworthy than kh
Not possible.

fine, it's well optimised. How shit is your pc? I'm maxing it at 1080p/60fps with an rx580, i3 8100 and only 8gb ram.

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>he new antshitters are more aggressive than mannequins too.

What? No they're not. And Nero is way too powerful for the low level Empusas, they're about as fodder tier as it gets.

Kh at least wears it on its sleeve. Dmc is just like matt walker: pretentious and cringey while trying to pretend to be cool out of some need to compensate

>nice semantics,
How fucking literally retarded are you? I mean youre LITERALLY so fucking braindead that you cant differentiate baked in depth and "tech" discovered by players, how about you fucking actually stop posting before embarrassing yourself further?

>but DMC4 and 5 have bigger movelists than 3.
3 has a bigger movelist than 4 with mods and in vanilla its simply spread out over loadouts in which you still have more powerful options than in 4 regardless of how big the movelist is

>It's objective that they are more complex and deep gameplay wise.
Always funny seeing brainlets use words like "objective" when they are actually retarded enough to exclusively correlate "depth" with the size of a movelist. By this logic Ninja Gaiden 2 prisonrapes every DMC game then since every single weapon in that game has a movelist comparable to DMC characters

>The new antshitters are more aggressive than mannequins too.
I mean thanks for confirming youre a literal 4baby who hasnt even played the first game I guess?

why would you

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Dumb KHnigger

Both of you are literally arguing while posting trannies you have both lost

The DMC3 trailer was just the devs uploading a sick combo video

wew feel like you got your franchises reversed there

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DMC is pretty tongue-in-cheek with its goofier stuff. "Fill your dark soul with light" is on the nose of course but it's nothing worse than KH.

Stop posting women (male)

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Nice retort hot topic may cry

>pretentious and cringey while trying to pretend to be cool

But this is DmC, DMC has always been self aware. And they go for corny as opposed to the straight faced dialogue of DmC.

unironically this

This thread is no longer stylish.

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i5 2500
Nvidia 960 4gb
12gb RAM
I need to change the CPU, it's getting really old.

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>self aware
It so is not my dude

>boob job scars
I wasn't born yesterday

>dumb avatarfaggot is at it again
Fuck off already

DMC5 and DMC3 are the same fucking game except five has V and Nero where as 3 had Dante and Vergil.
The story is the same,but 5 has better gamepay due to style switching

stop body shaming

I can 100% guarantee that youve had at least some equivalent of cosmetic surgery/ treatment

stop caring

lol this they even have the "combo video" in the menu as something you can watch

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>DMC5 and DMC3 are the same fucking game
Retard

>stop body shaming
Come fucking make me, basement dwelling neckbeard

How is the delusional tranny poster not banned yet? Or is he just evading?

stop projecting, im cute enough that ive been a consistent dick magnet since i was 10

PLEASE REDDIT BAN WRONGTHINK

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I can't tell if you're white knighting or attention whoring. I'm gonna assume both, good job man. Rare talent.

>waaaaaah wrongthink
>nevermind that I'm avatarfagging with completely unrelated (and, frankly, disgusting) images

Mostly latter but slightly the former since im easy to brainwash

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Bayo is still amazing though

by the way traps are gay okay? okay.

>bloody palace DLC comes with vergil
>vergil gets his own post-game missions in hell
based or no

swap 1 and 4

kill yourself actual tranny

Woah...im so....offended.....

Im not but I think about it every day

>and, frankly, disgusting
grow up seething dicklet

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people who say DmC is as bad as 2 are tryhard fags. Sure, second worse in the series, but the gap between 4 and DmC is tiny compared to DmC and 2.

>trannyposter calling anyone a dicklet
nice projection, homo

Wow avatarfagging, haven't seen that since 2008.

This thread feels weird....
Like why is there a need to post literal She-males and traps while discussing video games?

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Is this your first contact with a crazy person? They have entirely different conversations. You ask them to leave, they begin to ramble about human resources.

I'd say 4 is equal to 1, but Dmc is still better than 4 despite tameme being a faggot just because the level design was so strong and I didn't hate it like in 4. 3 is still better. I would want a bad guy to use donte' s move set in a sequel.

>Nvidia
lmao, jewed for real

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Good, we won't have to put up with you anymore when you become a statistic.

seething underage cringe edgelord

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You should be okay though, the game was optimised for weak consoles and your specs aren't too bad, you could probably run it beyond pro/X specs and still maintain a good 45fps+ framerate.

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>buzzwords
Nothing you can say will ever bother me, because I'll never be such a loser that ill have to shitpost 24/7 for a dopamine hit. This is all you will ever amount to, and it amuses me that you'll forever be a warning sign to those who stay here too long.

>24/7
wrong

i just come here when i need attention and want to talk about something nobody else cares about

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top or bottom

what

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Nice that none of these attempts on DMC1 even landed, going to have to try harder than 'ITS juSt NOstALgiA'.

Fucking idiots.

I love DMC so fucking much, it's my favorite, but no, DMC3 is clearly better.