PCgamer: Valve doesn't seem to stand for much anymore

games media seem to be blasting Steam for absolutely no reason.

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getting those chink dollars from epic

Valve has never stood for much, they're pretty much always been pretty quiet/neutral. But gotta get them clicks, plus muh virtual signaling.

>absolutely no reason.
tencent

The only good thing coming out of their silence.

What's virtual signaling?

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>Last week, Valve had a choice: it could go ahead and distribute a game about raping women, or it could remove the listing from Steam. Rather than instantly deciding that the game was unacceptable, the leader in PC game distribution spent awhile discussing and "fact-finding"—the title of the game is Rape Day, so I'm not sure what mitigating facts it expected to find—before announcing that it won't sell the game, not because it would be wrong to do so, but because it "poses unknown costs and risks."

>Valve claims to be erring on the side of caution, then, as if refusing to sell a game which was created to 'normalize rape' is a concession to critics, rather than simply the right choice. There was no acknowledgement that distributing games comes with some ethical responsibilities. It was a shrug.

>This purposeful lack of values has been developing since the early days of Steam, when Valve was accused of controlling the PC platform: If Steam didn't pick your game up, you didn't get to succeed. The company's response has been to move toward the other extreme by allowing any game to release on Steam so long as it's legal and isn't "trolling" (or isn't Rape Day, as we learned, because that policy was always going to fail under pressure).

haha whut
They're a video game purchasing platform.
What the hell do they need to "believe in", other than providing that service?

Just because it's "4channel" now and more SFW (or supposed to be) doesn't mean you dont still have to be 18 to be here.

Anyway, there is a neat website called "google" where you can type in anything you want and it will search the whole internet for that.

Call me crazy, but I think it matters very little what the GAMES DISTRIBUTION SERVICE stands for.
But if they stand for anything I sure as hell hope it is selling and distributing games.

>If Steam didn't pick your game up, you didn't get to succeed.
lol
What is Minecraft?

I don't give a fuck what my store's values are. I just wanted to buy video games. I don't walk into Walmart and see the about the poor quality shit they have, I just pick up my milk and leave.

Wow, what a bigot. Dont you know everything has to be politicized these days? But only if they agree with exactly my viewpoints, otherwise they should be burned to the ground.

Seventh and ninth posts best posts?

absolutely based

Hey Yea Forums, your speedreaders are leaking again.

Based

how about getting them directly from chinks?

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I think I am gonna call you crazy if you keep spouting such radical and probably fascist ideas likes some sort of rape loving pedo nazi

>game which was created to 'normalize rape'
No person actually believes that for even a second. Not even the writer of that article

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>video game companies put microtransactions in games to prey on weak-willed adults and children
>journalists: ...
>video game companies sell video games
>journalists: um sweaty this video game is literally raping me you have to delete it because I said so

Tell me more about this "Rape Day"

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like on a computer screen probly

valve doesn't do anything anymore except update their shitty store/social networking app and funnel the profits into dota 2 tournaments

they're dead

Sorry steamcuck, nobody paid me to think DRM and lootboxes are bad

WHERE THE FUCK HAVE YOU BEEN FOR THE PAST 2 WEEKS???!?!?!?

>Valve doesn't seem to stand for much anymore
I mean, this is generally a true statement in terms of making their own games. They run the largest digital game story in the country. Ain't got time for making statements when you're making and trying to maintain cash flow.

This however, is virtue signalling bullshit.

>STEAM SHOULD ALLOW EVERYTHING, QUALITY CONTROL IS BAD
>VALVE WAS RIGHT IN TAKING DOWN RAPE DAY
How do valvebronies deal with this cognitive dissonance?

I don't frequent Yea Forums as much as I use to.
I plan to come here more again though.

Tell us, oh gracious Moral Arbiters of Video Games, what should Valve stand for?

It seems to be pretty made posed 3d models set to a visual novel with ren'py
The kind of thing that screams out that they're just doing it for attention

Not him. But DRM and lootboxes have been shit since forever. So isn't it peculiar how this wave of Steam trashing comes when the EGS is trying to stir up shit?

>Implying any business stands for anything more then: We want more money!

Who are you quoting?

I dont get it, is he actually criticizing Valve for implementing due process instead of a knee jerk reaction?

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Well therein lies the problem. They don't seem to want to distribute games and instead want to play moral advocates. That's what people on all sides are taking offense with. Either all games of questionable content that isn't straight up illegal are allowed (and what games are illegal and what aren't is not a universal standard and is determined solely by the laws of the countries they are sold in), or none of them are. You can buy GTAV in some countries in Europe, you can't buy it in Australia or Germany, for example. Steam disallows you from purchasing them there. Introducing an absolutist policy like "This game is not to be hosted on steam at all, no matter the location" is going back on their word.

they are selling games not politics
if they didn't fuck up on developing games (hl3, tf3 instead of artifact) they'd be just as based as 10 years ago

why you lying, user?

don’t poke at the schizophrenic retard, he doesn’t react well

i always forget what it means no matter how often i search for it
whenever i know it i think "oh some twitter drama bullshit"

Because leftism and the hack journalists whose job is to be shills for this religion, are a direct threat to our lives and they will want to control everything.

the whole problem stems from these companies pretending that they want anything besides more money. When companies try to take a stand on something and then buckles when faced with a little scrutiny it looks worse than if they never took a stand at all

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what did they use to stand for?

Yeah, it's this. They are all being paid by Epic and Tencent to write hit pieces against Steam and praising Epic. This is getting disgusting.

>The kind of thing that screams out that they're just doing it for attention

Considering the developer went out and said that even they thought it wasn't appropriate for steam it's more than likely they did it just to see what would happen and look, a storm got kicked up because nobody at Valve has any sense of accountability and there's little oversight on what does and doesn't get on their platform

heh, i guess you could say they are running out of steam

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>for absolutely no reason.
all game "journalists" are leftists, ALL. There's no fox news for video game news, so of course they're going to shit all over steam/video games generally because actual gamers are right wing. if Steam SJW'd it up like gillette/pepsi/etc., you'd probably have these same npc "journalists" demanding all the top games be on steam exclusively and it would be hate crimes to have 3rd party launchers.

This. Being two-faced is way worse than simply being apathetic

every steamcuck thread
seething

>for absolutely no reason.
Typical incel.

Garbage and porn games ending up on steam is pretty shit. I remember recently checking on steamdb for sales and porn shit were popping up in the results and it just felt... not good. The lack of quality assurance would suggest it costs nothing to put something on steam cause obviously no one is actually getting paid to check jackshit, yet there are indeed submission fees which Gaben just appears to be pocketing.

Also absolutely fuck their 2 hour refund policy. Seems like its design to protect users from shitty indie games cause most AA games need at least a couple hours to get going. Just cause an indie didn't make a game doesn't mean said game doesn't have the capacity to be fucking shit.

Valve should have just stuck to making games.

Oh no. After Yea Forums and even some outside of Yea Forums started to realize that Valve is shit now, Epic started up their store, so it's gonna be back to defending Valve.

>funnel the profits into dota 2 tournaments
You underestimate how profitable the franchise is.

Is that why Artifact is a huge success? The card game based on the DOTA franchise?

the weird thing is whenever Valve puts a tigher leash on 18+ developer Kotaku comes crying that Steam is oppressing poor LGBT developers even though söylent elementals in comments are celebrating censored anime games.

Steam keeps porn games it gets whined on by anti-sex libtards, if it removes them it gets whined on by pro-sex libtards. Valve stepped on the landmine by trying to please poor faggot game developers who wanted to publish games about gay sex, they should've just not let any adult games at all and let GOG have all the VN games instead like it happened when it started rejecting them first time.

It is like journos can't understand who is the Steam audience
the fortnite kids are not, and those may be the only ones reading their crap
the steam audience is somewhat old, and knowledgeable, at least about the medium
WHO THE FUCK BELIEVES ALL THIS EPIC SHILLING???

There's a lot of deluded assholes who believe this. The U.S. already banned the import of loli sex sex bots because the people in charge think that fapping to loli hentai and fucking loli dolls will train people to rape children.

>söylent elementals
I'm stealing that.

>Artifact
Okay, maybe Dota 2 in itself and not the actual franchise.

It's called taking advantage of the opportunity. Why did people kick up a stink about lootboxes in EA battlefront 2 in particular? Because Star Wars is a kids' franchise and pointing out gambling in a children's game will raise a bigger shitstorm. Similarly, people shit on Steam because there's now a company as big as Valve with the money to buy their way into the market.

>absolutely no reason
Probably shilling for chinese spyware, AKA Epic

which is why you should never waver in the first place. Somebody is always going to bitch but when you backtrack like that it makes you a big target for both sides

Metro Exodus is a massive success. Division 2 is a massive success. Epic Store is here to stay. Valve is losing their monopoly. Deal with it.

steam sucks and valve has been shit for well over a decade, but the competition is waaaay worse.

It wasn't too much to ask for. Hell, the lead writer felt frustrated enough to shine some light on it.

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>sp game that everyone already moved on from
>dead on arrival ubishit
lol

>researching the game before making a kneejerk braindead decision is somehow a bad thing
People might as well just start saying valve condoned rape and skip the middleman here.

>absolutely no reason
It started with the Hatred incident. Steam refused to bend the knee to the perpetually offended. Journos realised they couldn't control Steam, so now they want it destroyed.

how to get your game on steam
1) your personal information
2) $100
3) no malware

however steam may remove your game if they dont like it, which happened with rape day

>Steam refused to bend the knee to the perpetually offended
but it's based when they did it last week, right valvedroid?

They're trying to take a middle ground which is not a smart business decision in today's climate.

Virtue signaling is when someone pretends to care about something, like political correctness, just for some personal gain.

For example, you get brownie points from SJW for loving multi cultural relationships. You don't give a shit though, it's just another batch of consumers.

What the journos actually want to say is "Valve needs to commit to censorship instead of only censoring from time to time". I have no idea why the want censorship so badly, must be something in the water

You don't actually think steam is a monopoly right?

I've been saying this for months
These are targeted liberal media hit pieces against Valve, because they refuse to bend the knee when it comes to censorship and curating content.
That's where all the pro-epic store "muh 30%", celebrating Metro removal, "division 2 is doing great without steam", the "nazi groups on steam" (like 10 of them, each with a dozen members, most of them inactive) garbage is coming from.
Gamers seem to have the memory of a fucking goldfish and are too busy getting swept in in the latest manufactured outrage of the week, instead of noticing the pattern.
Learn to put 2 and 2 together you dumb faggots.

>Comments already closed
PCGamer doesn't seem to stand for much anymore.

>>dead on arrival ubishit
Keep fucking seething lol. You lost. You failed. You are a complete and utter failure. You are a loser. You are a paranoid schizophrenic. You are a loser. You lost.

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>siding with an organization once over a specific event makes you a pcbro
Autism speaks

>being this retarded

What does Tyler stand for? Authoritarianism?

Both only selling on console and Metro's only PC sales were Steam pre-orders from before you mean. Dumb Chinaman.

I'm fine with Steam getting fucked because they tried to introduce paid modding along with jewthesda. They have it coming.

says chink defending lootboxes in fortnite

Why would Valve stand for anything?

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here

holy shit I didn't even read the thread, look at this fucking drone here eating up each individual "news" bit without seeing the bigger picture

>which was created to 'normalize rape'
i guess every violent game was created to normalize violence and murder

it's hilarious that these people cheer when women get their faces ripped off and melted in acid in MK

>Both
Nope. See and keep absolutely fucking seething, loser.

Its ironic.

It may be true, but I also can't trust game journos anymore

>Metro Exodus is a massive success
LMAO

well? is it based?

I just pirate Valve never meant anything to real chads

lol

I think closing the comments is the clearest sign of the quality of this kind of article and PCgamer itself.

>It didn't always feel like this, at least to me. When Gabe Newell was pushing Linux in the early 2010s, it felt like a genuine effort to keep our platform from becoming Xbox Jr. "Linux and open source are the future of gaming," he said in 2013. He was obviously defending his business, but I still believed that Valve broadly stood for improving PC gaming and fending off Microsoft. I respected that intent.
>When Windows 10 arrived in 2015, however, it was ironically Epic CEO Tim Sweeney who led the criticism of Microsoft's UWP architecture and the defense of Steam

I mean there is no shame to this people when it comes to shilling

I don't want a videogame company to stand for anything other than good videogames and acceptable customer service.
My only real problem with valve is they barely make videogames anymore.

Seething

Do people still not understand how the Steam store works?
You can literally have a store page made for ANY game, I could put a game on there called “Minority Rape and Murder Squad” and have it go up so long as I have some screenshots and maybe an exe, but it doesn’t mean it’ll get okayed. Valve was just slow to the draw to take it down, and now they’re getting flak.
This whole shit smells like a false flag. I think it would be crazy but believable if Epic got someone to put Rape Day up on Steam to drum up literally any controversy and seem like the good guys in the PC games selling market

Third world cope. You couldn't afford anything anyway.

an extreme exception

>The same drill as usual: while I'm sure some of you will have thoughtful and respectful comments, even if you disagree, the size of threads around controversial topics makes them difficult for our team to moderate, so we're closing comments here -- you're of course free to express yourself on other platforms!

lmaoing hard

They don't have to believe in much? An agnostic platform is good. If you're enforcing your beliefs on the content you are a publisher and should be recognized by the law as such.

Yep, it is. Remember when you tried to boycott Black Ops 4 and it succeeded despite not being on Steam? Why do you fail at everything?

Occams razor. Valve waffled on deciding to remove it because they were worried about criticism either way.

On what platforms? You just get deleted or downvoted everywhere else outside of Yea Forums.

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what the fuck have they ever stood for?
making loads of money and then swimming in it?

If epic is bribing devs to make their games exclusive to their store, I don't see why they wouldnt pay jornos to spew their shit

Metro Exodus flopped you insectoid mouthbreather.

I’m not entirely mad at Black Ops 4 being on Battle Net because at least people actually use it for other games so it wasn’t a hassle as I already owned it

What did make me mad though, is that PC Black Ops 3 players probably missed out on the throwback maps you got from pre-ordering Black Ops 4 that console players got due to the stores being different

lol they preemptively shut down the comment section because they know what's up.

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someone explain to me why this game spent 2 weeks in review while the hundreds of anime tiddy rpg maker games got instantly removed without a single moment of thought put into it

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Why even have a comments section at all if you're so worried about someone saying something you dont like?

Im so convinced that Rape day was developed with help of Epic. Is this game released anywhere else, or continuing development since Steam took it down?

>I think it would be crazy but believable if Epic got someone to put Rape Day up on Steam to drum up literally any controversy and seem like the good guys in the PC games selling market
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHHAHHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHA
YOU ARE A FUCKING SCHIZOID

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>that adult game is ok
>no, not that one
>yeah, that one is cool
>no, no, no-- not that one!
awful system

those tiddy anime games had mostly underage characters.

remember what happens when corporations say their product is a success? they release numbers for how much it sold. its complete silence since its release

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>think this is about how valve are just faceless middlemen who just sell games now
>why isn't this video game selling company using its platform to moralise people?

Game journalists should be shot.

get help, you are insane

basically begging for people to play virtual on with you

As much as I’m an advocate for free speech and raunchy porn games, I do think that regulations should be put in place for some exceptions. Looking at screenshots and descriptions about RD gave me the impression that there would be literally nothing to be gained from the game, so I don’t think it would be warranted to draw ire for something so forgettable otherwise. Like, Rapelay got attention because it was yknow, shockingly well made

That is somehow worse than a game that literally glorifies rape? This was valve being retarded and now they're reaping the whirlwind.

>not because it would be wrong to do so, but because it "poses unknown costs and risks."

posing unknown costs and risks literally means they think it is wrong to do so

Things happen for a reason. Outrage makes money, the more people you piss off the more the article spreads, I mean it made its way here right?

Nope, it was a massive success. What proof do you have otherwise, seething steamcuck? Your steamcuck fantasies?

Meanwhile, in the real world...

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WHAT A WIERD COINCIDENCE THAT ALL THE "OPINION"-ARTICLES ON STEAM HAVE CLOSED COMMENTSECTION ON PCGAMER.

REALLY.
MAKES.
ME.
THINK.

They're not even neutral either because they'll remove shit if enough people tell them to do so. Just have a policy and enforce it, don't be wishy washy with what you take down

The issue is just with valve overthinking it. Anime titties are one thing, rapeday clearly needed to be removed immediately just from a business sense.

We can shave that down farther. Valve probably has a process for removing games, that involves decisions by people, and isn't instantaneous. There was no waffling, just normal operations.

Nope, they are very very proud of it's -PC- sales figures. In fact, it sold vastly more WITHOUT steam.
You said it would fail. Why didn't it fail? Why did it succeed even though it's not on Steam?
Keep crying. Keep seething. The world is leaving you behind.

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Porn shit is just part of the garbage epidemic, there are tons of games which just have zero effort put into them that show up on steam and get approved, for whatever reason. Maybe it's the Greenlight thing.
I don't have a problem with high quality porn games being put out, but Rape Day is obviously garbage.

This. Ace Combat 7 also flopped. Look how Capcom has bragged about RE2 and DMCV sales and Square-Enix bragged about KH3 sales. If a game is actually successful, the devs and publishers very vocally express it. When a game is a financial failure, they never talk about it.

The process on which games are removed is not known at all. Perhaps they were under review for weeks as well. Perhaps it's just one motherfucker with a "ban that shit" button, and he was on vacation.

Please go to therapy

Valve stands for making money, like most stores.(That's all Valve is anymore.)

yeah, because of consoles. game flopped so hard on pc that no one will ever mention it again. about sale numbers just forget

>Publisher saying something happened instead of revealing numbers is proof

huh

>False Flag
Not one for conspiracies, but the whole thing does stink of one.
>Random garbage "game" by a nobody, pops up out of nowhere on steam
>Random "what do we think about this bros" style shit posting starts up on here not long after (same day?)
>Rage articles/tweets from the usual suspects pop up not long after that

Like I seriously doubt Epic had anything to do with it, but it really feels like somebody orchestrated this whole thing.

Nah, like said they can pull the trigger whenever they want. I really think this is just valve being very stupid as a result of criticism they got for booting other porn games.

See and seethe yourself to sleep, seething steamcuck. You are a dinosaur.

*Up 50% of physical sales on console from Last Light, which only sold about 1 million copies.

>We have great sales!
>But we're getting rid of flash sales and everything is just a set sale percentage, from the start of the sale to the end, take it or leave it
>We let tons of indie games and even some risque shit go on!
>Except for a bunch of these games we'll ban, ask to be censored, and then find out later aspects of it may not have even been that bad
>We give players recommendations based on their specific tastes and curate our selection to show what's new and good!
>But any indie, early access, broken trash can be thrown on to the platform without too much issue

Steam isn't exactly a bad platform or anything, but I'd agree they don't exactly stand for much these days. Not sure what the article's core point is, but the various things Steam has strived for over the years has diminished significantly. And when they do come out and promise one thing or another, they seem to go back on it soon after. It's inconsistent at best.

man the kikes are absolutely STEAMING that they cant control Valve

>Kingdom Hearts 3 was released
>Shenmue 3 is going to be released
>but still no Half-Life 3

Will it even be good? What are they doing? Still working on the source engine or something?

Some publications getting some sweet fortnite bucks from Epic

Wrong, spoonfeeding faggot.

Who DID create rape day? I mean, there's already a marketplace for 3d rape porn, formerly funded mostly through patreon, and rape porn marketplaces. He's not known anywhere there.

>Valve stepped on the landmine by trying to please poor faggot game developers who wanted to publish games about gay sex,
There were straight porn games before gay porn games.

>>Publisher
Nope, the information came from sales tracking, not the publisher.

Why are you so obsessed with metro exodus failing even though the facts are:
1. it did not fail
2. it sold better than the previous games
3. it's not on steam
4. seething steamcucks tried boycotting it
5. seething steamcucks failed to boycott it

so you're saying all corporations are saints and they wouldn't even think about doing a little sabotage

Rape Day is definitely a weird case. looks like a quick asset flip cashgrab and everything about it and recent developer comments such as "we can't add baby kicking scene because valve thinks it's child porn" made everyone think it's definitely ruse cruise made by a bored troll or someone who wanted to fuck over Valve by making game that hits all the controversial sweet spots on purpose

what's that, you wanted to buy a division 2 uplay key from another legit storefront that offers better prices and has good sales???
*blocks your stores*
now pay up!

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thy are mad Valve didn't ban the shit they dont like

>even caring about HL3 at this point
Its way past time to stop caring.

Hey I posted and it's complete silence since its release. Where'd you go? Why didn't Black Ops 4 fail despite you wanting all non-steam games to fail? Why are you a loser? Why did you lose? Why are you a failure? Where are you?

Steam took HOW LONG to remove this WRONGTHINK? This is UNACCEPTABLE. Mister Goldstein, we should run an entire campaign against them!

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>its triple of black ops 3
>how much was black ops3
>its was triple...
and so one. if it sold good they would release the numbers. ea was releasing numbers on daily basis, you know why? because it sold good and had something to brag about

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You mean this game?

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>let me convince you about journos not being shills by citing this other shill journo article

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but it's based when they remove rape day, right?

Yeah also there’s no website for Rape Day or Desk Plant, and there was an interview where the dev said he was planning on releasing it on his own website. So it’s basically looking like this game is never seeing the light of day, so it literally could just be that the screenshots of the game were just mockups

yeah, the game is shit and it gets lots of PR even though it wouldn't have passed valve's quality check anyway
the faggots who make a big deal out of it are the faggots that advertise it to the edgy teenager that want to play it (note: they might be edgy and naive for thinking this game is worth investing the time but they arent faggots, its a game and it doesnt harm anyone)

And they backed down instead of doubling down and call everyone a racist.
Thats a good business

lmao you just know this turbocuck author is so deep in ~LISTEN AND BELIEVE~
hope they get inoperable lung cancer desu

your game is a flop and you know it

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Take solace in the fact that no matter where life takes you, at least you're not a video game journalist. Goddamn, even 'janitor' commands more respect.

this is what they get for not making hl3 fucking faggotd

Hold up, is this even a game or is it a visual novel? Everything I've seen of it looked like a VN.

other than
>leaving an entire fanbase of gamers completely lost with 2/3rds of a story to one of the most respected shooters ever
>giving the middle finger to these players for years, happy to sit on its collective ass on its crappy store front that its legacy of games helped give credit to
>a change in the wind and Gaben barely pivots his ass away from his giganto burger, tossing out a cheap cash grab card game with no imagination
Steam has been tossing out "fuck you's" for years. After monopolising over the PC games market for years people are sick of Gaben and his companies monetization of a beloved video game ecosystem.

It was gonna be a VN

Why does an online shop have to stand for anything?

kek, what you fail to mention is that a 50% increase over physical sales of Last Light is fucking nothing since that game flopped too. Absolutely pathetic shilling here. Stop taking your terrible job so personally, Wang. You'll be losing it soon anyway considering how much money they're losing on their failed store.

Download and enjoy Rape Day.
f95zone.com/threads/rape-day-v6-0-rape-day-dev.27007/

>Talk about why journos hate Steam
>Immediately try to deflect using new clickbait outrage
Seething Resetera tranny can't rewrite history

no, janitor needs zero respect. he's a filthy neet who does it for free and doesn't pay his family bills. at least journos have reason to be as shitty as they are ($$$)

FPBP

>using a digital middleman because you're tech illiterate
sorry not sorry, I'll stay poor AND own more games than you.

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it sold good? how much good? 100m? 10m? or maybe 100k? yeah 10k looks good, who even want 1000 sales lmao

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>>how much was black ops3
Right here.
What's the conspiracy now? Why did Black Ops 4 succeed even though you so desperately wanted it to fail?

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>There was no acknowledgement that distributing games comes with some ethical responsibilities.
Because it doesn't.
Do soys really want corporations to be their moral guardians?

who knows

Where was PCgamer when Valve was pushing Steam? They should have been attacking Valve non stop the moment they launched Steam, the entire media was pushing it with them, all pro digital distribution articles, none against it and none stating the dangers and absolutely no pro physical copy or pro piracy articles. If they were actual journalists then Steam and none of the other pieces of shit like GOG or EGS would exist and gaming would be much better as a whole. No one even questioned Valve when they were popularizing the cancers that now plague the industry. Valve was always a piece of shit and has done more damage to gaming than any other company, Steam was the consolization of PC. We have a perfect opportunity to start demanding DRM free physical releases on disc or flash drive but all you casuals are too busy praising le gaben. Anyone who uses Steam or any platform like it or pays for a download is not a real PC gamer. I pirate, fuck financially rewarding the cancer that killed PC

>sales of Last Light is fucking nothing since that game flopped too
Nope, successful games get sequels. Unsuccessful games get cancelled. A sequel ltierally only exists because "this game is successful so we should make more of it since it's guaranteed money". Last Light is a success. Exodus is a success. You are a failure.

so 1-2 millions is good for call of duty now? lmao

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Sorry means actual janitor not internet imageboard janitor.

>Do soys really want corporations to be their moral guardians?
Yes.
Where have you been?

why do people like you still cite steamspy? you can't derive ownership data from profiles anymore and the site is ran by en epic employee so any ""estimates"" are bound be heavily skewed.

gabe came out and said at one point that he wants steam to be a free market.

I think what really happened is steam lost a lot of its mid and low level talent and just decided to start focusing on their money printing press instead of going through a long hiring cycle again to develop a game. Lazyness/incompetence is to blame for steam abandoning game development, not malicious intent.

sure why not

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>Minecraft is normalizing punching trees
>GTA is normalizing car theft
>Mario is normalizing jumping on brown people
>Animal crossing is normalizing money lending

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valve stands for DRM also not being able to count to 3

Rape Day (as a proper game) never existed in the first place, it was nothing more than a bunch of mock up screenshots. It was made to get a rise out of people, and it completely worked.

The big question is who made that store page in the first place, and who "Desk Plant" really is.

The whole fucking thing stinks.

anyone else notice how xi jinping looks like winnie teh pooh lol

It doesn't need to stand for shit. It needs to sell games, give information and a simple way of giving feedback on said games. All else is just bullshit and I don't give a fuck

Metro Last Light is literally a documented commercial failure you illiterate dog eating slant eye. It had a low budget to begin with though. Exodus had a huge budget and is equally a flop. It bombed because of Epic. This is just pitiful.

6 million is absolutely, positively a success. AND it's not on steam. You said it would flop without steam. It didn't flop without steam.
So that means this post where you said Black Ops 4 was a failure (it isn't) is wrong
And this post where you said Black Ops 4 was a failure (it isn't) is wrong
And this post where you said Black Ops 4 was a failure (it isn't) is wrong
And this post where you said Black Ops 4 was a failure (it isn't) is wrong

Why are you so horrendously fucking wrong about EVERYTHING? Why are you a failure? Why do games succeed despite your seething steamcuck boycotts?

>for absolutely no reason.
chink tradewar jews pay them to

You have to remember that all siversity hire termites in the gaming industry hate valve for not bending fully to their will.

The vidya industry opened my eyes to the truth of the "journalism" profession

this is bait

lmao

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imagine being a console warring faggot about launchers.
pro-tip: normie games suck and I don't give a shit about digital launchers for plebs who can't pirate

>Deep Silver has announced that Metro: Last Light has "significantly" outsold its predecessor. In the United States, the game had more boxed retail sales in its first week than Metro 2033 had in its lifetime to date. Across all formats Last Light sold more units in its first week than 2033 did within 3 months
Nope. You are a loser. You are wrong. You are absolutely, so, so, SO fucking wrong it hurts. You are sooooooo wrooooooooong. Steam is dying. Deal with it. The future is coming.

blatently apprent to anyone who follows current events. where do these low info idiots come from?

lol no, triple of 1-2 is 3-6, and i wont believe its 6m because some journo said so. keep seething

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Libs think companies are people so companies need to have political views and stances on social issues. Apple is their best friend and Starbucks is their girlfriend. They talk all the time with their other friend Twitter. These are their friends. They don't know any real people in real life.

Reminder to report all Chink subhumans.

>absolutely no reason
this should've been done years ago. I'm glad it's finally happening now

>some journo
Nope, it is Activision-Blizzard reporting the figures. The only organization that can know exactly how much Activision-Blizzard games are selling is Activision-Blizzard.
investor.activision.com/news-releases/news-release-details/activision-blizzard-announces-fourth-quarter-and-2018-financial
You are completely, utterly, painfully wrong. Black Ops 4 did not flop despite your seething steamcuck boycott.

This.
I would not be surprised if the dev and journos were both payed by epic

>This game is bigoted reeeeeeeeee
>Also Valve is a sellout for caving in under pressure.

>no source at all


Fucking kek, this is sad. The entire series has a history of flopping but Exodus is the least successful by a huge margin. It will never get another sequel because of your irrelevant trash company you pathetic sack of shit.

where are the numbers for black ops 4? i cant see them

You mean the very same company that wont allow players to know how much people is actually playing their games?
The ones that keep firing employees?

Yeah you do, in your little suicide apartment. Now shoo "chad", stop coping.

That dude can't tell the difference between a flop and just a shit game. they aren't one and the same

Yeah, this is an obvious paid article. PCGamer is shit.

gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-31-metro-last-light-first-week-sales-surpass-2033-lifetime-sales-in-us
You are a total loser. Last Light is a success. Exodus is a success. Exodus is not on Steam. Keep crying. Keep seething.

>You mean the very same company that wont allow players to know how much people is actually playing their games?
So? They just said the sales figures.
>The ones that keep firing employees?
What does this have to do with the fact that Black Ops 4 tripled Black Ops 3's sales on PC despite not being on Steam?

Black Ops 4 came in significantly below expectations. They have already said they regret not including a campaign and that Blackout mode will not be returning in the future because they are blaming the BR and lack of campaign for it failing, lmao.

>not an actual rape game that you control and enjoy

How disappointing.

They're still pretending to be a game developer. That's flagrant horseshit at this point and they need to either make a game or announce that they'll never make games again.
As much money as they have they could just build a studio, populate it, and have them make games for them.

Take the Black Ops 3 PC sales figures and do the math.

>They just said the sales figures.
no they didnt, thats the point you fucking retard. all they said was "it sold good, trust us xD"

it just goes to show how out of touch with reality gabe has been.
>vr and linux is the future of vidya
>what if we made a console but it was a STEAM console?
>hey dude let me put a chip in your brain
>steam is a free market now we're going to make so much money on porn
all of these things flopped.

Beauty of being a privately owned company is that they don't have to tell you anything ever.

math tells me it was 3m, ie shit for a call of duty game

not user but I don't give a fuck about sales, every thot fuck has some zelda
shit but I don't meet many people who have actually completed shit. It's the same thing for all these cunty products. People buy them but there is no love. that is why that incel fuck was commenting about player count

>for absolutely no reason.

Imagine being a Valve/Steam drone and believing this shit.

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>Repeating yourself so much
big tell that you're trying to convince yourself, not others.

>No reviews
>No voice chat
>No community forums
>No workshop
>No screenshot sharing
>No wishlist
>No game tags
>No discovery queue
>No one-click online streaming
>No h-games
>No music category
>No software category
>No video category
>No linux support
>No mac support
>No regional pricing
>No payment option variety
>No marketplace
>No trading cards
>No trading
>No user profile customization
>No achievements
>No controller support
>No family sharing
>No overlay with browser
>No client skinning support
>No controller-friendly mode
>No local network gameplay streaming
>No cloud saves
>No backup feature
>No adding third party games to your list
>No third party key registration
>No reason to use Epic Store

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I own 3 houses and live off renting them.
Cope, mutt.

They don't exist because Activision is embarrassed of how badly it bombed.

Multiply the Black Ops 3 sales figures by 3. There's your Black Ops 4 sales figures. Why can't you deal with the fact that Black Ops 4 is NOT on steam and is NOT a flop?

Let's change subjects since you lost, Fortnite isn't on steam, did it flop?

It's a fucking store. I don't care what their politics are. Why the fuck does the left absolutely need to know what your stance on anything is? You don't seem people from the right going around screaming how they are going to boycot something because it's not right leaning.

He's very blatantly a Chink defense drone. The way writes is subhuman and like someone with a low vocabulary. I can hear his broken Engrish accent through the internet.

the gaming media wants valve to be a bastion of social justice, wielding its market position to punish white men.

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Nope, they exist and it's 3 times as much as BO3, Black ops 4 is a MASSIVE success despite not being on Steam. Why are you losing your iron grip on the PC market despite your seething boycotts?

they've given up after that card game flopped, greedy fuckers thought they could get away with it lmao

well the media needs to fuck off and just sell me shit

Journos already had a hate boner for Steam. Theses articles would exist regardless of what happened.
Keep it up?
>reee Valve supports rape
Use due process?
>reee Valve didn't take it down quick enough so they support rape
Implement the curation they beg for?
>reee my trans polylesbian poc friend had her twine game rejected, this is rape

And look what it's currently doing to their reputation.

Thanks, saving this to get (You)s in future threads.

if it is so easy, why didnt they do the math themselves? 2m*3? easy. something tells me it was indeed a flop. not as big flop as metro tho

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>China literally worming their way into American media, possibly sabotaging American discourse with SJW bullshit gumming up discourse
>China literally colonizing the African continent under everyone's noses
>China literally gearing up for war to take Taiwan

Why is the media not covering any of this

>that tencent shill in the thread
Tiannanmen square

Nothing? Nobody reads gaming press, it's only reposted here for easy (You)s.

>left wing parasites that sold thier souls for sjw money selling their souls for chinese money
>no reason

jesus christ dude.

Tim Sweeney said it's perfect tho.

Nope, Black Ops 3 was considered a massive success. Black Ops 4 is considered 3x a massive success. Your seething metrics do not decide what is successful.
Why are you so embarrassing? Why are you so pathetic? Why did you fail? Why didn't BO4 fail like you?

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cause they fucking want it, those cucked fucks want a one world government after all. it's just a means to get there. fuck them, fuck their authoritarian negative liberty bullshit planet

3 times of 1m is 3m, cope harder. and it would sell 5 times more if it was sold on steam lel

>china building railroads into the fucking desert
>china building ghost cities in the middle of no where
>ice age coming, left wing retards still talking about lgbtq global warming as if carbon taxes will save us all from the sun

what the media does talk about
>lol icons in videogames
>trannies
>white pribleges
>ORANGE MAN BAD

xenophobia

oh no, another SUCCESS despite shit sales. yeah i have no doubts that both of them and metro are a complete flops now

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Fun fact: Black Ops 4 flopped harder than Infinite Warfare which barely sold about 1.5 million copies and was by far the lowest selling game in the franchise before. And Activision wasn't even afraid to disclose that low as fuck number, yet BO4's sales are a secret. BO4 must have sold only a few hundred thousand copies for them to be this embarrassed about it.

>absolutely no reason.
I'm sure Epic's Chinese Overlords' checks are reason enough.

when you have political opinions that /pol/ doesn't like

>Why is the media not covering any of this
Money

still here steamcuck

They probably stand to make a lot of money if Epic becomes the dominant platform and keeps user reviews away, making them the only source for "news" and reviews.

Imagine rejecting conversation in the one place where people talk to your sorry ass out of some ill perceived pride.

I'm in no way defending Valve, but what the fuck does Epic have that's "better?"

Nope. 6 million is absolutely not a flop no matter how hard you seethe. Black Ops 4 is a success. Activision is breaking records - without Steam. Keep crying.

Because Trump is afraid of losing their manufacturing and business resources and too busy obsessing over Mexican immigrants and his daughter's pussy.

How is "best selling game of the generation" a flop, basket case?

its not 6 millions unless you prove it, but we know you cant. metro is a flop

that's not even the crazy part, they invest at like 30-40% a low percentage so that they can foster the growth of the company then when eyes are averted they take it over. they are parasites.

Hey where'd you go? I posted the source that said Last Light (and thus also Exodus) is a success and you disappeared, what happened? Why were you wrong?

because overwatch sold more and they released its numbers. black ops is a flop. metro is even bigger flop

>vr and linux is the future of vidya

actually Proton is good since Valve has a safety net whenever Microsoft will plan to fuck them over by messing with games compatibility (for example making older libraries obsolete and inoperable on new systems)

Valve was shit for a long time.
It's just very suspicious how game journos wake up to this situation right now.
When even Jimquisition the Fat joins on coordinated attack on Steam, you know they are trying to pull something behind the scene and are in process of using every muscle strain possible.
They even add Rape Day as Casus Beli for revolutionary war.

I never understood this shit
If you play first person shooters and GTA, does that make you a murderer?
Oh, what's that? Now it suddenly doesn't count?
Why can't people seem to differentiate a video game from reality when it comes to anything that isn't violence?

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Metro definitely flopped. Without question was the lowest selling game of last month, even with how hard Anthem and Crackdown 3 both flopped, which is saying a lot. Their only fanbase and sales were Steam pre-orders which was only like 50-100K.

And yet you have still failed to provide any numbers to prove it so far.

>overwatch sold more
Post the sales figures to back it up. I can post my piece.
Speaking of Overwatch, that's not on Steam. Did it flop?

Wait, didn't you just say that 6 million isn't good enough for Call of Duty (it is) as the basis for why you think Black Ops 4 failed? Now you're saying there's no proof it sold 6 million? Where are you getting your argument from, then? Your seething steamcuck feelings?

Anyway you said it yourself, multiply 2 million (Black Ops 3's massively successful PC sales) by three.

reddit.com/r/Destiny/comments/azu8f0/jim_sterling_talks_about_free_speech_of_sexist/eia9mwe/

Valve fanboys absolutely BTFO

10m, thats what they say. why dont they release numbers for cod?

wheres your proof for 6m? triple of 1-2 could be anything from 3-6, and i bet its not 6

The liberal horde decided they were problematic and activated the propaganda machinery.

>10m
Now post the source. Has to be directly from Activision since you hate journalists posting facts.

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Valve is what happens when you run a company on a Libertarian mindset.

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ok, so its even less. when journo say its 10m, its actually 5m. when they say its triple of 1-3, its actually triple of 500k. you won, you proved journos cant be trusted. metro confirmed flop

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A reminder this is Ebip's COMPLETE LIBRARY

epicgames.com/store/

Feel free to laugh now.

>and i bet its not 6
Why, cause it would destroy your steamcuck reality and cause you to break down in sniveling tears?

I doubt they're working on anything, and if they are, at a snail's pace.
They don't encourage trying new things and they don't like doing new projects, because why do anything new or make a new game if you're getting money anyway?
All Gabe does is play Dota 2 in his office all day for crying out loud, and that's not a joke

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What are these schizophrenic delusions I'm reading and why can't you post the source for Overwatch selling 10 million copies?

>Stem is free market
>Epic is under totalitarian influence
>"intellectuals" and journos shill for the second one
We need McCarthy back

(((game journalism)))
They hate the monopoly Steam has and want to break it up, so they're resorting to catch-22s and false flags.
If you ask them how they would have handled the Rape Day situation I guarantee you they wouldn't have an answer or an actual solution.

Tyler Wilde, if he even exists, is probably on the payroll of someone that wants to see negative press on Steam to force them to make a mistake. So far they've not made a single one, which is great.

>If Steam didn't pick your game up, you didn't get to succeed
>Waaah baby developer need handouts from daddy, why no daddy give baby developer free exposure!!!
Absolutely pathetic

For the past 15 years or so valve has remained largely the same. Why are people picking on them now? they have always done what they are doing now.

>Last we checked, Metro: Last Lighttopped the UK charts, but it was a hollow victory as its UK retail sales didn't even match those of its much less publicised predecessor. That only tells a small part of the story, however, as both digital and US retail sales were significantly higher.
>How much higher, you ask? Publisher Deep Silver didn't list exact figures, but noted that across all formats worldwide, Last Light sold more units in one week than Metro 2033 did in three months.
>Additionally, in the US Last Light sold more retail copies in one week than Metro 2033 has in its over three year lifetime. Of course, Last Light was also released on PS3, whereas the first game was only available on Xbox 360 and PC.


>First game completely flopped in the US, meaning the increase in sales was an easy bar to overcome
>Second game sold significantly less in the UK and Europe where the first game actually sold decently
>It took being added to PS3 to sell only slightly more than the first game ever did to boot
>"Metro Exodus 50% more successful than a game that wasn't a success!"


0x50=0. You are the failure Chink shill. The Metro series has always been a very low selling niche franchise, popular only due to Steam sales. Checkmate you utterly worthless subhuman.

>y-yeah but it would sell MORE if it was on steam PLEASE PUT IT ON STEAM
still a success valvebrony

You fucks are are console wars tier dick for brains. COD 4 moved product, but was such a disappointment in retaining players that they directly mentioned it on the investors call.

What's more interesting is that the fuckers most heavily invested in hyping this shit up or down clearly aren't playing. Check what the queue time is for, anything that isn't TDM on PC for example. I bet I could sit a full hour in One In the Chamber, without getting a game.

They let Hatred on their platform.

>absolutely no reason
So Yea Forums suddenly likes Valve again? Just becouse "sjws" dislike it now? Fuck off.

Reminder Steam will sell absolutely ANYTHING

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what the fuck are you talking about lol post the source

I'll give you a somewhat serious answer.
Violence is something that can't really be denied when it happens. Everyone recognizes that punching someone is a violent act, there's little to no ambiguity in regards to what is and isn't violent. Basically even if you accidentally did something violent you would still recognize that you did something violent.

Less overt things are different though. Racism, Sexism, all the other isms (look I'm just using generic bad things alright?) have an ambiguidy to them and not everyone has an agreed upon definition of entails all of them. So sometimes it's possible for you to do something mean to other people you saw on TV but because you don't immediately recognize that you are doing something mean and the TV show did not frame said thing AS mean, you don't quite activate that same mental filter that you would usually do with violence because you don't even see the thing you saw on TV as something that could harm people.

I hope this all makes some relative sense

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>Yea Forums is one person

Back to your reddit echo chamber with you dumb mongoloid.

>Miner Royale


I didn't realize they were selling the Epic Store on Steam now

Actually no, they have been consistently opening the floodgates first with greenlight and now with just letting anyone in.
Years ago, getting your indie game on Steam meant you were legit. Now it means you had a 100 bucks to spare.

this is funny because all politicians seem to be pedofiles.

Nigga please. Shitting on valve because they fucked up artifact, have lost all ability to make games, is a fat sloth, has loads of garbage in the store is one thing.

"Lost their moral compass"?
"Supporting Rape Culture"
"A stain on human progress"?

That's fucking garbage user.

You have to pick a political team these days no matter what.

90% of the replies defend steam itt.

Reading comprehension, retards.

>tons of page anti steam and valve articles
>All landing right when episode is throwing huge money at people to push their competitor store

Hmmmm

See
It never really had a playerbase to retain, it sold the worst in franchise history and is the only COD game they refuse to release numbers for. Even Infinite Warfare, a game that was infamously despised by everyone and failed to sell was somehow more successful.

Are those actual quotes or did you make them up?

i cant because it was a lie, there was no 10m copies sold. cod didnt sell 6m and metro is a flo

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>For the past 15 years or so valve has remained largely the same
You are retarded

I'll give you a serious answer. Saying that vidya cause violance is agreeing with BLUMPF and we simply can't have that so we agree with science. Since he hasn't said anything about porn games we can safley ignore science and just say our usual bullshit.

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>The Metro series has always been a very low selling niche franchise, popular only due to Steam sales.
...yet Exodus sells more than the previous game without being on Steam.
You lost. You are a loser. Keep crying. Keep seething. Get over it. Epic won. Come back in another hour when you're done seething over your entire worldview being completely, utterly wrong. Why were you wrong?

By the way, didn't you say that Exodus is the biggest flop in the series in ? Now you're saying it's more successful than the previous game. Which one is it? Pick one instead of shifting between schizophrenic delusions.

>all the other isms
Almost got me. Cheeky bastard.

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It still makes no sense because there was never any sense here in first place.
Its the people that equate entertaining an idea with planning to execute it that are the problem.
Those mental filters are just norm in culture of media.

>literally 27 games, only 5 of them non-steam
Fucking yikes.

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>i lied lol
So I post facts and you post delusions. Your entire proof for BO3 being a flop is "Overwatch sold more". It didn't because you lied. What was your argument again? Black ops 4 is a success. I have facts. You have lies. How do you disprove that?

Leftist here. Valve > Epic.

>I don't know how to run a storefront but I'ma talk about it anyway

Why not ban violent games too?

Are things only a problem when they offend women?

How can someone laugh at the Jack Thompson GTA guy for concern trolling over violence, then claim that other games normalise (have a real world effect) rape ?

embarrassing

>for absolutely no reason.
Valve hasn't made anything worthwhile since Orange Box.

I was a Valve fanboy, but nowadays I just want them to die off so the franchises can go to better people, or at least just die off so we don't have to hope anymore.

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hello

I'd honestly feel a big chapter of my life closed if Valve declared "we no longer make games"

I'm sick and tired of Valve sitting on Steam and the games of hard working devs and collecting money on them like a corrupt landlord.

How is anybody supposed to take anything you say seriously when you just lied lmao

>Similarly, people shit on Steam because there's now a company as big as Valve with the money to buy their way into the market.
To absolutely no benefit of the consumer. EGS has just as much DRM and lootboxes as Steam, and none of their business practices benefits the end consumer.
Does that mean Steam is good? No. But is the EGS's "contributions" to this market positive? Fuck no.
You know if GOG had risen to be a storefront on the same level as Steam, you wouldn't see people trash them from all over the place the way people are with the EGS. It's not that EGS are competing with Steam that makes them bad, the EGS being bad is what makes it bad.

>puit game on consoles
>mass marketing campagin tageting consoles
>more people play consoles then before
>wtf it sells more how could this happen THANK YOU EPIC STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORE

Nigga, have you been reading the threads?

Alright, the third one is resetera, and not a journalist, but we're in an era where people are losing their goddam minds.

You can actually figure out roughly how successful it's been if you go through their SEC filings. It's always a red flag when the announcements are weaseled like

> "Massive increase"
...in digital direct sales.

And clever anons can clearly tell the difference between shills, and actual players. take a look at black ops 4 reddit. You think THAT's a healthy AAA player base? They got so little traction that people really didn't even bother shitposting at them here.

>steam needs to do something!!
>steam does something
>steam doesnt care!!

I get the impression there's a lot of infighting going on and Gabe, being in a rough spot in his life right now, is largely apathetic about it, which is slowly causing it to implode.

>people are still crying about that piece of shit anime game made for literal losers

>meanwhile they totally forget about Valve abandoning videogames in favor of counting money on their shitty shop

>MUH RAPE

What the FUCK is wrong with people? There's millions of these garbage games flowing out of the cessholes of Japan, yet we have to cry about one fucking game that didn't get a greenlight anyways? Why aren't people holding Valve accountable for producing schlock garbage like Artifact when everyone wanted a new Half Life?

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I thought Asians were supposed to be good at math? It's pretty simple. Console physical sales for Exodus are up an almost irrelevantly small percentage over Last Light and 2033 which were both low sellers likely achieving 3 million or less sales combined total, while also having possibly three times or greater the budget. That's a flop. Exodus by all calculations has only sold about 2.25 million copies, and these numbers only apply to console. Not one single copy has been sold through Epic and Steam's pre-orders were only 50-100k more.

In other words, it bombed. Get fucked you unintelligent trash.

I downloaded it entirely for Metro Exodus and it looks like that will be the only game I'll ever have on it, and I wouldn't have even gotten that if I hadn't heard good things about the game.

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Usually I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but certain aspects give this incident a suspicious aura.
>making a game with said content and title in the first place and putting it on Steam, expecting it will go well
>apart from a few amateurish renders, no footage of the game exists
>in the age of social media and frequent doxxing, the developer is nowhere to be found
>game journos all voice the exact same opinion shortly afterwards
>the articles read like altered hit pieces that went from "they didn't do anything" to "they didn't act fast enough"

What about the free games? Go and claim Slime Rancher if you haven't

literally nobody wants a half-life anymore dude

yeah, valve is "imploding" due to manufactured controversy (rape day was probably funded by epic), despite just having quietly revolutionized computer gaming with Proton.

Oh, and one of their developres is making a presentation on fucking BRAIN COMPUTER INTERFACES at GDC.

I would laugh so fucking hard if Yea Forums has been shitting on valve for 10 years and suddenly they bust out a fucking brain controller. like fuck you bitch faggot kids.

Slime rancher was in humble bundle ages ago.

I mean, even like 5 years ago I could pop on steam and check recent released games and see maybe 1-5 games every week. No I check recent released it's like 200 a day.

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>t. low taste pleb

>BO4 must have sold only a few hundred thousand copies for them to be this embarrassed about it.
Noooooooooooooooooope.
Seethe some more, seething steamcuck.

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Rape Day wasn't made in japan
in fact most of the banned games are western

I miss the calm before the 2014 shitstorm and some people unironically responding to comparing Jack to Anita with sentence starting with "But JT was a Conservative and ..."

This faggot locks every article like this so people can't talk about it.

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Yup. It was definitely this. Epic and their Chinese masters are that desperate. Their investment has cost them millions and they haven't made a cent on it.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vasily_Blokhin

imagine, 7000 journalists in 28 days

Why would I claim a game I have no interest in and wouldn't end up even downloading anyways?

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I'm not the one who likes fucking half-life

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>Nigga, have you been reading the threads
No. Mocking sjws has nothing to do with video games and is fucking stupid and pointless anyway.
>but we're in an era where people are losing their goddam minds
That's quite rich. Just becouse people don't want a game about rape called 'rape day' on steam and a few people being vocal about it doesn't mean people are losing their minds.

Not him, but those are not sales numbers.

>PS tanner made the slideshow in linux because he doesnt believe in propietary software

wut

Violence in games doesn't make you ejaculate.

Valve did not invent WINE, schizoid

Valve has been focusing on game compatibility for the past several years, and they've been doing a damn good job. A majority of the games on Steam are now either perfectly playable or at least "compatible with bugs" on several Linux distros.
The article is trash in incorrectly asserting that Valve has just given up on the whole Steam Machine / Linux promotion, and is only using Rape Day for the virtue points and the clickbait paragraphs up top to make idiots think the second fallacious half of the article is believable.

Because he's in the pocket of Epic and has to censor the comments calling him and the site out for it. Same thing is happening here by the way. Why do you think the mods never get rid of the blatant Chink marketers spamming and losing their shit here at anyone calling them out? They took the payout too.

Game journalists are not actual journalists.

I’d say it’s anecdotal but indicative of commonly seen behavior

D O X ALL EPIC SHILLS

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Also mods seem to have a search&destroy algorithm set for bugspray copypasta.

Games shouldn't be removed for containing rape. But Rape Day looked like absolute and utter trash. Like the Life of Black Tiger of porn games.
youtube.com/embed/uM523jjrvf4

It's the kind of game where I wouldn't be surprised if the exe simply didn't even load up the game.
The game never looked like a serious product.
Where were all of you defenders of Rape Day when the actually good eroge were blocked?

People here don't actually care a thing about valve or steam. They just want a echo chamber where they can make fun of sjws

Noticed that, it’s shit though. If they really want to play a cat-and-mouse game, we’ll play... Fuck em

>Console physical sales for Exodus are up an almost irrelevantly small percentage over Last Light and 2033 which were both low sellers likely achieving 3 million or less sales combined total,
Still successful according to publisher.
>while also having possibly three times or greater the budget.
Proof?
> That's a flop.
Proof?
>Exodus by all calculations has only sold about 2.25 million copies,
Proof?
>and these numbers only apply to console.
Proof?
>Not one single copy has been sold through Epic
Proof?
>and Steam's pre-orders were only 50-100k more.
Proof?
>In other words, it bombed.
Nope. You have yet to give a single source for any of your claims. I have given a source for every single one of my facts. Remember the seething steamcuck that tried for an hour to convince me BO4 was a flop before admitting he was just lying the whole time and quitting here ? Why should I believe a single thing steamcucks say, while I do nothing but provide facts?

Exodus is a success. Epic store is here to stay. You will be crying about Epic on your deathbed.

>atleast 3 of them are free or have been free in a giveaway

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>EPIC GAMES IS PAYING GAME JOURNALISTS AND IS ALSO PAYING THE Yea Forums MODS AND IS ALSO FUNDING THE DEVELOPMENT OF RAPE DAY AND IS ALSO PAYING KIDS TO PLAY FORTNITE AND IS ALSO PAYING PUBG TO MAKE THE GAME WORSE
Every day, steamcucks become more schizophrenic.

I got 3 day ban for it reason was "stop posting nonsense gibberish" or some shit. Tranny jannies need to swing from a noose.

Where are the sales numbers, Sergay?

27 GAMES! HAHAHAHAHAHA

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Is he? The timing is very convenient, and the game is nowhere else to be found.

>take a shit on the floor
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE YOU KICKING ME OUT OF YOUR HOUSE, EPIC GAMES PAID YOU TO DO THIS
You are insane.

Is Xinjiang Uyghur, dare I say, an autonomous region?

Whatever happens, make sure to buy Evenicle on steam so we get the Rance games in the future.

Fuck Rape Day, these games are where the real battle is.

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Reminder that according to steamcucks, these kids were paid by Epic to do this.
youtube.com/watch?v=v2TRFIVZQEI

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You haven't posted a single fact or source whatsoever you dumb yellow shitskin. Exodus is a complete financial failure. That's a fact deduced by math using all the numbers they have readily given for the sales of each game. I posted the facts and you're throwing a temper tantrum like the worthless subhuman brainlet you are because you can't comprehend English and are just repeatedly spamming a marketing script angrily as if it can save you. Look for a new job, you are really bad at this.

S E E T H I N G Chink tranny.

To this day I am baffled by the amount of tards who feed into the controversy bait that people like to manufacture. This entire shitshow was the entire point of Rape Day and people are just falling for it in the droves. And idiots fucking wonder why games like Rape Day keep existing when they haven't even looked in the god damn mirror.

What went wrong Yea Forums?

What am I seething about? You are getting banned and I am not :)

>Where were all of you defenders of Rape Day when the actually good eroge were blocked?

because the girls in eroge are 15-17 therefore it's not ok to rape and molest them unlike adult women you pedo

people love drama, caveman genes too stronk

>You are getting banned and I am not :)
Hello plebbit.

>monopoly
Not a monopoly.

Said who

>You haven't posted a single fact or source whatsoever
Nope, I have posted official sources in , you have posted absolutely nothing. You are free to link your own posts that include sources.
>you dumb yellow shitskin.
Delicious tears
>Exodus is a complete financial failure.
Proof?
>That's a fact deduced by math using all the numbers they have readily given for the sales of each game
Post the numbers
> I posted the facts
Where? Link it.
>you're throwing a temper tantrum
Delicious tears
> like the worthless subhuman brainlet you are
Delicious tears
>because you can't comprehend English and are just repeatedly spamming a marketing script angrily as if it can save you
Proof? Delicious tears
>Look for a new job, you are really bad at this.
Look at your seething steamcuck tears and ask again if I'm doing a bad job at making you melt down completely.

The hilarious irony of the fact that Epic created Rape Day as a false flag to hurt Steam is that if they had actually gotten it onto the store, they would have sold more copies of that than every game on the Epic Store has sold combined.

Remember.

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>Epic created Rape Day
Proof?

>game media

journos headlines are not a proof you chink shill

dude trust me

>Claims to have posted facts and sources that were all fake
>all posts have since been deleted


OH NO NO NO NO

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>deleted
Good job proving nothing, chink. Feel free to kill yourself anytime.

>the leader in PC game distribution spent awhile discussing and "fact-finding"

I am genuinely upset they're trying somehow to somehow present this as a negative. How the fuck did we get to this point that looking into something instead of just knee jerking is a bad thing.

Not him, but it's not unusual. Things similar have happened before.

Why, because it makes you seethe?

Proof they didn't?

Like?

That's not how proof works, steamcuck.
>TRUMP RAPED ME
>proof?
>WELL DO YOU HAVE ANY PROOF HE DIDN'T?
Thank god you don't have a job in anything.

because no one will believe you no matter many times you repost them. you need to cope harder than that

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This is why """games""" like Rape Day happen because people always get trolled.

No worries, if your seething steamcuck ass is too lazy to use boards.fireden.net, archived.moe, or arch.b4k.co, and doesn't have Yea Forums X installed, I will reinstate the posts.

Source in is the pic related.
Source in and is gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-31-metro-last-light-first-week-sales-surpass-2033-lifetime-sales-in-us

What's the narrative now?

Marvel tried to fabricate a situation with city of heroes that could have led to a lawsuit. They used the character creator to make superheroes that were nearly copyright infringement and tried to say it was players and Cryptic was doing nothing to curve this. Courts threw it out and were convinced Marvel was attempting to sabotage the company.

No proof then, gotcha. It is settled then.

i agree with the headline 100%
steam use to stand for cheap and free games. it doesn't anymore.

>dude just look away from it, your battle royale addicted kid will ignore it

Forgot to post the pic. No worries.

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It's a game where you could kill a baby

This is sickening to read.

I second that motion

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>links to deleted posts supposedly providing proof
OH NO NO NO NO

If hosting media with rape in it is so badwrong, why didn't Netflix get attacked for Game of Thrones?

>dude epic store had nothing to do with "Rape Day" thing now let me repost Metro Exodus sales for 90th time and say how great Epic Store is

Hey aren't you the guy that lied about Black Ops 4 failing? You're one to talk about "no one believing you", loser. Why did Black Ops 4 succeed?

Loli sex bots would make their pedophile rings go out of business.

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none of this is a numbers for metro sales.

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makes me think

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Proof that Epic is involved with Rape Day?
Burden of proof is on you, buddy.

Back in the late PS1 era, a bunch of shit on Dance Dance revolution being dangerous to play on, which turned out to be from employees from Andamiro, makers of pump.

i bet you have numbers for it

The whole thing was a botched hitjob on Valve. Dig deep enough and you'll find a paper trail leading to Tencent, the dev sure as shit didn't make any money off his shovelware shit. And there is definitely a pricetag for a developer killing their own career forever, if not for the source material then for how incredible a piece of shovelware shit it is. A bunch of Tencent devs could've thrown this pos together in an afternoon easily.

There was no right choice here, ban it and they'd have to ban every game featuring rape from Steam, allow it and all reviewers and even publishers would start bitching and moaning about it. Meanwhile you can buy a Blu-ray and DVD of Irreversible and countless films featuring and even eroticizing rape from Amazon and nobody's bitching about that and boycotting Amazon.

Fuck Tencent.

You have nothing. Your shitposts were deleted for being fake news and complete lies. Just stop you pathetic insect. You will never win this argument because you don't have one. You just keep trying to spam the lies and false spin that is in your Tencent corporate marketing script over and over as if it makes a difference in the face of it all already having been debunked repeatedly in this thread alone. You are a complete failure just like your company and just like your entire subhuman yellow race.

and you are that one retard that keep reposting everything but sale numbers. where are the proofs?

doing this personally in game is a little different from a fiction where someone else is doing it

even though it's just a visual novel and you have hardly any input how you "rape" there

Now that I think about it, even Source Engine won't see a 3.0.

I used to wonder "how stupid would you have to be to believe the fake numbers that turned the great leap forward into a massive famine". But it's almost as if we're seeing it in front of our faces again.

I do, in the thread. Why did you lie about having numbers for Overwatch sales in ?

These days just saying 'Anyone can have a go here, even if they're unpopular' can BE a principle and value in itself, one that can get you a lot of flak and crowds demanding your head.

This is why I don't care for this 'Valve are cowards for letting X make games' mindset. There's enough people quick to lump in the neutral with their enemies to make not taking a side come with its own hazards.

>Dig deep enough and you'll find a paper trail leading to Tencent
This is some /pol/ level conspiracy theory

>video games journalism
Why does this shit even get covered honestly. Who cares about these fucking idiots.

You claimed Epic is not involved so the burden of proof is on you. ;)

These sales are literally confirmed only the console version and a 50% increase over only 1 million sales from the last game, which is fucking nothing at all. That's a complete sales flop.

Why do you hate facts?

for cod they cant even say it was 6m. "triple of 2m" looks better than real 3m

>You have nothing.
Nope, I have facts.
>Your shitposts were deleted for being fake news and complete lies.
Nope, it is true, and I reposted them, and they make you cry and seethe like you're doing right now.
>Just stop you pathetic insect.
Nope, I'm gonna keep posting it. gamesindustry.biz/articles/2013-05-31-metro-last-light-first-week-sales-surpass-2033-lifetime-sales-in-us
>You will never win this argument because you don't have one.
Delicious tears
>You just keep trying to spam the lies and false spin that is in your Tencent corporate marketing script over and over
Delicious tears
>as if it makes a difference in the face of it all already having been debunked repeatedly in this thread alone.
Where?
>You are a complete failure just like your company and just like your entire subhuman yellow race.
Nope. Keep crying though.

They could've said they were removing it for being a lazy, piece of shit tossed together on renpy in a single afternoon instead.

Your grasp on the English language is so poor that you seem to not understand what the word "facts" means since you haven't provided a single one.

So it's a success? Why did you lie about having numbers for Overwatch sales in ?

Yes but then they'd have to go through thousands of other cheap asset flips and iniclip-tier games they've already allowed.

Why do you hate facts?

Cope.

>Absolutely no reason
Valve have been sitting on their laurels doing jack shit and don't even bother improving steam because everybody accepts it the way it is along with them not having to make any games.
I actually hope Epic stirs more shit so these faggots get off their ass and improve their service.

Where's the proof that Overwatch sold 10 million? Oh right, that was a lie. Fabricated. By you. You lied.

They could just make up some bullshit about it being difficult to sort through every game, and that it's easier to simply delete poorly made games that are brought to their attention.

Find me the name of the developer if you can, they even chose a studio name that you literally can't find out shit about, "Desk Plant".

Tencent has no games, so they resort to dirty tricks, like paid exclusivity and shit like this. You know it's true. The sheer degree of shovelwareness this piece of shit represents means all you have to ask yourself is "Cui bono?".

This. Epic can fuck off with their chink crap.
Steam is here to stay.

i repeated journos that lied to me. they also lied about cod being a success

>doing jack shit
Just in the last few months they've completely overhauled the friendlist/chat/etc gizmo and released proton so that linuxfags no longer have to install two versions of the client.

I hope Valve just makes an actual fucking game, we're due in for something like HL3, Portal 3, L4D or either TF3 or a big TF2 content update.
They waste their time on things like Artifact, when TF2 still has a consistent playerbase around 50k.

What articles said that Overwatch sold 10 million copies? I at least posted the articles that supposedly lied about Black Ops 4 selling three times as much as BO3 on PC and BO3 being the best selling game of the generation. Where's your article? By the way, my articles cited official sources, which you really really hate.

No achievements was the big one for me. They genuinely add a lot of replayability to a game.

That was never in question. Steam won by default, they literally don't have to do anything. Epic has thrown away all of their money and not gotten a single cent back. Fortnite is dead. They played themselves like everyone else who tried to take on Steam.

are you retarded?

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Wouldn't have satisfied games media either way, and if they had banned/disallowed it from the get go those same people would be screaming censorship. At least Steam gives games the benefit of the doubt and went to the trouble of actually finding out whether it should be banned or not, and now they've backed themselves into a corner since they'll have to ban everything even just featuring rape as a theme, so you can expect for example MGSV to be removed within 12 months, mark my words.

PC Gamer is bought and paid for official Epic Shilling Piss Rag.

I was so pissed off when they killed off Computer Gaming World. At least CGW actually reviewed games from time to time

>, so they resort to dirty tricks, like paid exclusivity
paid exclusivity is not a dirty trick. But you know what, you're the one claiming that Tencent made Rape Day. I'm not going to spend time backing up your claims, you made the claim then you come up with the evidence.

>no verifiable data

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>Fortnite is dead
Proof?

just like yours, yet your data points to even lower numbers. really embarrassing

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Paid exclusivity is not a dirty trick when you fund development of the game. It is a dirty trick when it's a literal bribe to make someone remove his game from the competitor's store.

This is exactly why Steam errs on the side of caution, meanwhile Tencent Store is just another walled garden like Apple etc. whereas Steam leans more towards being an Amazon of digital distribution.

"Players" is not copies sold, like you said. So how is that article lying to you if it cites an official Blizzard tweet?

Why is this thread being spammed by a mentally ill retard who keeps trying to pretend physical console sales of games like COD, Metro, and Overwatch are proof of Epic not being a colossal failure? And why haven't the jannies taken him out back and shot him yet?

Guys, I'm gonna try publishing my new game called "The Game Where You Rape And Murder An Underage Girl" on Steam. Hope it won't cause any controversies!

Agreed, as I've said elsewhere, they clearly want to be more of a market place than a store

they do what they can to increase the numbers in public. in overwatch case it was counting trial accounts. in cod case it was releasing vague number that you have to calculate yourself because in reality its so shit they couldnt do it themselves

Put it on the Epic Store instead, you'll get a higher cut, they are desperate for exclusives, and they already made Rape Day so it's exactly the kind of game they want.

Why do you hate facts?

You'll never get any further than this, Tencent aren't retarded:
>Desk Plant
>[email protected]
>Rapeday.com
>Registrant Contact
>Name: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0151088394
>Organization: Contact Privacy Inc. Customer 0151088394
>Mailing Address: 96 Mowat Ave, Toronto ON M6K 3M1 CA
>Phone: +1.4165385457
>Ext:
>Fax:
>Fax Ext:
>Email:[email protected]
Cui bono?

>releasing vague number that you have to calculate yourself
...so they're still numbers. You just admitted Black Ops 4 is a success.

BO4 was definitely below 1 million. Infinite Warfare only sold 1.5 million and they didn't even keep that number secret.

they released 3-6. 6 looks good, reality is 3. prove me wrong you chink shill

>BO4 was definitely below 1 million.
Proof?

the fact that nobody has been able to show any sales numbers for any game on epic store?
on the contrary, i love it

No, burden of proof is on you to prove that 3 million is the "reality".

Would you rather buy from a Chinese Communist Party owned platform that is literally the embodiment of censorship (and incidentally large scale oppression, concentration camps of 3 MILLION PEOPLE where REAL people get ACTUALLY tortured on a daily basis, organ harvesting, people trafficking and all sorts of nasty shit) or from a real store that goes to the trouble of only banning inappropriate stuff
>"after significant fact-finding and discussion."
Fuck Tencent, with a passion.

You smell a false flag too?
I'm glad i'm not the only one.
Remember that movie that shat on Allah and was attributed to Arab Spring?
MSM does not remember too.

Right so you're pulling things out your ass

He can't. He also couldn't prove the other guy who calculated Metro Exodus' low sales wrong earlier in the thread. He barely understands English and is just copying replies out of a script like Indian scam callers do and spamming them over and over even when they don't make any sense in response to posts he's throwing his impotent temper tantrum at.

it could be even lower. its your job to give me numbers

I just did. What's your proof that it's 3 million or lower?

so this is what pclardfatfucks are playing huh? faggy western rape simulators and arguing over their favorite DRM.

feels good to be a consolechad

There are real crimes and hate crimes.
Killing people is a real crime so killing virtual people is not a big deal.
But killing black people because they are black for example is a murder and a racism. Murder is not a big deal again, but racist part is not a virtual is a real hate crime. It is stupid but that how it is work in mind.
So rape is always mixed with sexism. Make a game about raping men - and no one give a shit about it. Actually you can make it now call it Manrape Day and no one will be offended. Raping virtual people is not a crime, but sexist part is.
And i'm talking not about modern SJW shit where ugly woman are offended by everything i'm talking about traditional "women should be cared about" attitude builted in humanity evolution code.

>He can't.
Just did
>He also couldn't prove the other guy
No, not "other guy", you. Stop talking in third person, schizoid. You are one person, not multiple.
>who calculated Metro Exodus' low sales wrong earlier in the thread.
You still haven't posted proof. I asked for proof, where is it?
>He barely understands English and is just copying replies out of a script like Indian scam callers do and spamming them over and over even when they don't make any sense in response to posts he's throwing his impotent temper tantrum at.
Keep crying. Delicious tears

If Rape Day gets put on the epic store then i will use the epic store. that would show that they are more then a chink/sjw face

thats triple of black ops 3. post real numbers or gtfo

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You could probably trace it further to whatever shell company extension of Tencent owns that P.O. Box and phone number they have listed as the address and contact of the "company".

what's a good console rape simulator? you're implying there are better ones?

keep repeating yourself

Just did at . Multiply the number by 3. Now explain how it's a failure even though the industry says it's a success and Activision says it's a success?

you can clearly see its 1m. triple of that is 3m. are you retarded

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Yep, I'll keep repeating myself as long as you refuse to post proof for your claims and seethe instead.

You just proved him right. You actually don't know English at all and are just copying and pasting the same handful of phrases over and over. Worthless rice farmer.

Ok? That's the number, 3-6m. Explain how it's a failure? The crux of your argument is "black ops 4 will sell less if it's not on steam": It's not on steam. It sold more. What's the narrative again?

keep repeating yourself

3 million is a huge flop by COD standards, and it didn't even sell that much. Holy fuck you're unbelievably unintelligent.

how is 3m for cod game not a failure?

Because Activision says 1-2 million sales on PC are a success, and 3-6 million sales on PC are an even bigger success. Your seething steamcuck metrics are completely irrelevant. You don't look at Infinity War's gross and say "YEAH BUT", no one cares, it's a success.

What's the narrative now?

>3 million sales including console copies for a Call of Duty game isn't a failure

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It's always funny to see "journalists" trying to put things down for not being political "enough". As if every company under the sun should have some official stance on every little social controversy that pops up. They've forgotten that companies are there to make money, not to be the sword against the bad man/be the bad man.

>him
You.
>You actually don't know English at all and are just copying and pasting the same handful of phrases over and over.
Because you can't prove anything I say wrong? I question your sources (which you don't provide), then I trim the seething fat from your seetheposts.

Then do it

Cui bono?

Holy shit have you just been misinterpreting the argument this whole time?
I posted Steamspy sales, dumbass. This is a discussion about whether or not a game flopped on PC. So I posted exclusively PC sales figures. Console sales are literally not part of the equation at all.

Did you seriously just embarrass yourself for like 3 hours because you have horrendous reading comprehension?

those numbers are for all sales, including consoles. you have no numbers for pc, in reality you have no numbers for anything. you just keep repeating your made up numbers. cope harder

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it's better to talk about some arbitrary bullshit rather then real problems. real issues hurt your bottom line. that shit is basic dude, you gotta hide your laundry

>FEAR 2 has male rape
>no one bats an eye
>some retard made a meme game about female rape
>suddenly PC gaming is should literally be terminated and all American money should be sent to China

How do you deal with Tienmen Square?

No. No they literally fucking aren't. I posted Steam sales from Steamspy. Steamspy is a website that scrapes profiles to track sales for games on Steam. Holy shit, you seethed so hard you forgot what Steamspy is. Holy shit, you just embarrassed yourself for 3 hours.

>moving goal posts after defeat has become obvious
Embarrassing.

Journalists are obviously doing it to push the Epic store because "think of the developers", but Valve and Steam really are a shitshow. For a company that was once top of the industry they've fallen unbelievably far.

They no longer make real games, only money extraction processes.
They used to preach fairness for the consumer but now just look for new ways to monetize basic online interactions.
Steam no longer tries to improve itself, and the few new features it adds are massive failures.
Sales are a pale shadow of what they once were.
Steam has no quality control whatsoever which damages its reputation as a brand and makes developers mad that the games they put so much work into are placed alongside stuff that wouldn't pass on miniclip.com in 2003.
But despite that Valve still go back on their word about allowing anything and will ban games for no stated reason if one of their employees is triggered by it.
They used to be a relatively open company but now they've cut all lines of communication with their community and everything they do is shrouded in as much secrecy as an underground cult.
Every new venture Valve tries ends in failure; they are out of touch with consumers.

They used to be industry leaders and the company that everyone looked up to. Now they are just "that company that runs Steam" and the only thing you ever hear of them is about how badly they're fucking up.

steam spy is your OFFICIAL source? nice one, really got me there

>how dare a company pick and choose what product it allows on its store

their policy on letting most games on steam isnt a fucking law, anyone with half a brain could see that selling a fucking game called RAPE day would be more trouble than its worth, why the fuck would valve stick its neck out on the line for such a poorly made game?

Nope, you're full of shit. The sales numbers include console. Always. And BO4 sold less than 1 million across the board. Sent.

So, it's clear that epic will be a success, just like black ops 4?

I agree with this.
They want you to think they stand for free market, but they actually don't as we saw with Rape Day. But they also don't stand for like some moral values or whatever the fuck.

How does Steamspy count console sales, retard?

>Steam Spy
>expecting reliable numbers

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No, even though the game is shit and leaving It there would be bad for them. They shouldn't have bent the knee, but in this case they aren't exactly the ones to blame

Are you pretending that low quality shovelware hasen't been on steam for a long time?

You can buy GTAV in Australia.

Burden of proof

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Yep, Steamspy is confirmed by developers to be accurate.
pcgamesn.com/steam/steam-spy-accuracy-developers

From every post from now on, I'm gonna remind you of the fact that you thought the Steamspy numbers were console figures.

Hey steamcuck. Guess what I just found.

In July 2018, Steam accidentally leaked the sales figures for all their games.

And what do they say about Black Ops 3?

arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/07/steam-data-leak-reveals-precise-player-count-for-thousands-of-games/

3 million copies sold on PC.

That means... get this... Black Ops 4 sold NINE MILLION COPIES on PC alone.

Without steam.

It's even worse than you thought.

This is 100% official. 100% real. What's the narrative now?

>No regional pricing
>No payment option variety
>No cloud saves
>No backup feature
>No adding third party games to your list
>No third party key registration
These are the only things that matters.

>steam spy
>official
>official says its 1-2m
>steam spy say its 3m on pc alone
looks like steam spy knows better than devs themselves

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>run by Epic
>accurate

lmao, nope, not even a little. Completely invalid.

100% fake.

That was before Steam changed their API to prevent services like Steamspy from grabbing info.

No, this isn't Steamspy's numbers. This is literally directly from Steam themselves. Read the article
How is the Steam API fake? You are literally calling Steam fake news.

Player count=/=sales. Those are free weekend numbers you pathetic lying retard.

That game didn't even sell 9 million total across all platforms combined you dumb faggot shill.

Proof?

How did it make $500 million in one weekend, then? How did it become the second best selling game of 2018?

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fucking desperate

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>official sales leak
>N-NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Why do you hate Steam's sales figures? Steam posted their sales figures. Why do you hate them? I have achieved 100% absolute victory. Checkmate.

so they released how much they earned but not sales. i wonder why

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It didn't. It didn't even sell or make a fraction of what RDR2 made and sold less than God of War, Spider-Man, and Smash too.

They did release the sales. 9 million, according to Valve. Your original metric was "they didn't say anything about how the game performed so it's a flop". Why do you defend Valve so much if you hate them so much?

>leak
>official
cope harder

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it is literally 1000% official
you lost
get over it

see valve didnt release any sale numbers. those include trial players

desperate over what? official sales?

wheres the official statement? all you posted is journos headline, and not even the one we ask. post sale numbers

>valve didnt release any sale numbers.
They did. They quite literally did. A bug in the Steam API allowed anybody to calculate how much each game has sold.
>those include trial players
Proof?

If i recall correctly there was a PC Gamer writer on ResetEra that asked in a thread how to trasfering the saves on Epic store because he didn't know how to do. And this writer were always defending Epic store shenanigans