March 2019... I am forgotten...
March 2019... I am forgotten
Xavier Johnson
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Tyler Campbell
just wait for the PC release bro
Blake Johnson
it was on sale the other day so I've been playing it
it's okay
I bet Dutch is the snitch, that line where he asks why Arthur didn't take the deal offered by pinkertons that he just brushes off wasn't a meaningless line. dutch cares about arthur and wants him to get out
Jaxson Peterson
Yeah, that's it. You got it.
Austin Cook
Well I'm a really smart and observant fellow. Sometimes it's not fun though, cause you don't win a prize for guessing what's going to happen, all you get is diluted excitement, because if you let the story tell you what's going to happen, it's shocking, but if you figure it out first, enh. I did that with Ghost Trick recently too.
Sebastian Peterson
Shut the fuck up retard
Oliver Myers
Aiden Brooks
Funniest thread I've read in a long time. Good job fellas.
Camden Cruz
>hold white line for details
i DON't KNOW what the FUCK that means i keep trying buttons but nothing works
Nolan Cook
Good. Rockstar are extremely pretentious and it’s annoying how all their games sell like crazy despite their typical, vapid, up-its-own-ass games.
David Clark
kys op this thread is even worse than shit dead moviegame
Adam Gray
Brayden Butler
Retard
Ian Stewart
It's the options menu.
Camden Reed
Do you sniff your own farts too?
Xavier Campbell
based whore poster either at work or not with his girlfriend
Christian Martin
You got it, on the ol' night shift again. I actually spent a good chunk of the weekend freeroaming and hunting in RDR2, was pretty fun.
Ryder Mitchell
>tfw it's only chapter 2 and my honor is high enough
>fucking Micah Bell missions making me lower it and raising them up is hell to do
>cheats not even patched which disabled saving
overall the game is 10/10
Michael Flores
>thinking I will fall for your dumb fake spoilers
Lincoln Hughes
I'm playing through the game again myself. I'm trying to arrange the missions in an order that makes sense to narratively to me, while doing as much free roam in between as I can. My goal is to have most of the trapper's clothes made before completing Ch. 2.
Julian Phillips
Getting good honor is pretty easy and you can gain that from helping people out.
Oliver Hernandez
Needs SP DLC quickly.
Shouldn't have bothered with MP at all.
Easton Hughes
yeah, because it's a single player only game you dumb fucking faggot spamming piece of shit
Jordan Sullivan
I've ridden in 3 hours and white dots barely comes off the map
should I rescue those arrested by bounty hunters/sheriff?
Cooper Gray
If you really want honor just go to St. Denis and say hi to everyone or go fishing and throw the fish back after catching them
Josiah Stewart
Don't bother with the honor bar until the last chapter where it actually affects things of importance and also moves quicker (1.5x multiplier on all actions in both directions).
Charles Lee
I want singleplayer DLC too. The multiplayer is barren and awful.
Ryan Bennett
Comfiest camp?
Noah Thomas
Clemens followed by Overlook. Everything else is definitely not comfy
Asher Stewart
don't read your replies if you don't want the actual spoiler
William Taylor
The Rockstar Fanboy Checklist:
>go back to Fortnite
>zoomer
>you have ADD/ADHD
>impatient
>short attention span
>nitpicking
>you're opinion doesn't matter
>I never had a problem/it's on you
>Rockstar sold x amount of copies
>the horses are better than RDR1
>the controls are better than RDR1
>it's only the beta
>10/10
>Online review scores
>reddit spacing
>angry PC gamer
>nintendie
>muh realism
>muh immersion
>it's a single player game
>it's not a twitch shooter
>nobody complains about x
>masterpiece
>regurgitated Dutch memes
And their personal favorite
>you didn't play the game
If you think you're arguing with a fanboy, simply resort to this checklist, call him a fanboy, then ignore him. Watch him cower and recoil as he's been found out.
Jaxson Reed
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Jeremiah Rivera
yikes. OP fuck off please.
Jack Parker
Fantastic contribution to the thread
>>>/reddit/
Xavier Phillips
other's camps desu
Xavier Green
>DUTCH. COME OUT HERE AND FUCK MY BUTT.
Rockstar really took a weird direction with this one.
Jeremiah Lewis
I don't know
I worked too hard for that honor and it hurts seeing it fall
Also when I get the fishing rod how difficult is tackle fishing from bait fising?
Matthew Rivera
gosh, she makes a beautiful corpse
Jeremiah Edwards
That's called a meme, son. I made one of those threads one time
Mason Taylor
Yeah. I'm sure someone at Rockstar made this as a personal favor for me and I love them for it.
Henry Edwards
Wyatt Myers
I disarm and beat up / rob almost every lone traveler or camper I meet
Joseph Thomas
Based and Micahbelled
Ian Moore
No.
Bentley Gray
>mfw I got the bug that removes all of your weapons during the epilogue
They patched it since then but it's too late for me unless I want to reload all the way back.
Jack Robinson
Christopher Mitchell
Ryder Stewart
I usually don't but when I start to ride away they'll utter "not so tough now, huh" or some such so then I have to.
James Carter
Yeah when someone gives me lip for no reason it's usually go time.
Joshua Evans
Dominic Evans
William Thomas
i'll never forget him
Luke Cooper
is this a death grips reference?
Ayden Harris
twas micah
Nathan Richardson
Wyatt Perez
I don't know how you could think that at that stage of the game unless you haven't done Micah's missions yet
Although Dutch does kinda stab Arthur in the back at the same time Arthur does it to Dutch.
Andrew Garcia
Aww the cute NINCEL is still seething over this game :)
Jack Davis
Xavier Jenkins
>keeps making threads about it
Jacob Gomez
Why is this game so fuckin good?
Eli Allen
It's very focused product for us wild west loving boomers who are okay with slower-paced gameplay and can appreciate the care put into the game world.
Grayson Collins
Charles James
all of my discussions in rdr2 threads went like that though so he has a point.
Aaron Russell
Dominic James
I can't help but feel pic related is somewhat relevant. A lot of those responses are in response to criticism like how slow the game feels and I guess how some people feel it's a movie game (lol).
William Foster
Aiden Richardson
jokes on you, i come to these threads and all the fanboys get mad at me.
Brayden Jenkins
I fucking love the game user. I wish online didn’t suck ass but at least you can run around huntin gators looking like this.
Elijah Edwards
Lol nice I guess seems like a fruitless endeavor when all the people who really enjoyed the game have already left these kinds of threads anyway.
John Watson
>movie game
There probably is no more passionate defender of RDR2 than I am but I gotta say that RDR2 did focus a few times too many on a scene being cinematic over having engaging or varied gameplay. I still love the game but there were a lot of times when I could've done with a little less canned movie-like approach and more skill check gameplay. But I guess RDR in general is not meant for that since they have features that are there so people with gaming skills of a potato can get through the story and enjoy the immersion and atmosphere.
Leo Gonzalez
The target audience for Rockstar games are literal teens.
>slower paced gameplay
You mean unresponsive, with terrible shooting and navigation which is what you'll be doing whenever you're not watching cutscenes.
Julian Walker
I unironically think the gameplay is more responsive and fluid than anything I've played in the past year. It's so natural and consistent.
Aiming sucks shit though but I blame that on twin stick controls.
Caleb Sanders
I've hated the way Rockstar's games controlled since GTA IV. At least RDR2 has fun fishing and hunting which is what I bought it for in the first place.
Thomas Cox
GTAV on PC felt so much better with mouse and keyboard that I ended up doing a completely FPS playthrough. Honestly it even made towing a little challenging.
Julian Thomas
RDR is definitely more aimed at mature audiences. And I completely disagree about the unresponsiveness. It's slower but the animations are more in-depth and in my opinion they help to establish a more intimate bond with the main character. I love watching my Arthur actually skin the deer instead of getting that weird awkward jumpcut to John's face with him poking at the camera with a shink shink shink sound in RDR1. RDR2 is not meant for people who are in constant hurry to do things or want to be done with the game for the sake of being done with the game.
Austin Scott
That's just not good game design user, it's not something deep or even well implemented. Why doesn't Arthur manually pick every single piece of ammo you come across? Because that would be boring, just like everything else is. It's not good game play it's just busy work for the sake of it. Other games like Resident Evil 4 managed to strike a better balance on things like that over a decade ago.
>aimed at mature audiences
Please, it's aimed at children wanting to play the big mature violent game just like GTA and at people who just came of age who want games to be gritty and serious™.
Hudson White
God damn, partner. You really done do make me laugh.
David Allen
Arthur picks up ammo packets manually though.
>It's just busywork for the sake of it
Mmm disagree with that one mate. Never felt like it was busywork but rather stuff that helped me immerse myself deeper into the game's world.
Owen Gray
Focus on character, good or bad.
Focus on world, good or bad.
Focus on gameplay, good or bad.
Rock* really delivered on letting you make your own way in the world. Naturally, the autists on Yea Forums try to denigrate that choice,
Brody Ortiz
Liam Carter
>Please, it's aimed at children wanting to play the big mature violent game just like GTA
I feel sorry for underage b& that plays this and completely misses what it's going for aka (You). I played the first one when I was 16 or so when it came out and didn't have any kind of attachment to John whatsoever and thought the story was stupid.
Yeah, it's aimed at mature audiences. It touches strongly on themes that I doubt children would be able to relate to at all.
Brody Taylor
In my opinion, most of the "immersive actions" instantly became busywork once the game started screwing me over by taking away control and breaking my immersion.
Hunter Ross
Grayson Watson
Read what comes after it, you're tucking 25 and talking about being mature when you're fresh off college lel
What themes? Do elaborate because as far as narrative goes the game makes blunder after blunder and the ONLY think it does well is the scenes with Arthur facing his own mortality with either the nun or the pastor.
Brody Mitchell
Yeah, cause it was boring as fuck and the online is broken as hell. Absolute shitshow. They've shown GTAO more love since release. RDR1 reigns supreme, it's all been downhill for Rockstar since.
Colton Anderson
>mfw RDR2 babbies think Arthur dying is a spoiler
Tyler Moore
Its been 6 months and still no DLC? Damn, I thought for sure we were going to get the guns cut from RDR1 at least. I had been waiting to finish the campaign because I wanted to play with the LeMat.
Ayden Scott
It is a spoiler you retarded twat.
Levi Bell
It literally isn't.
Cooper Wilson
Yes it is.
Adam Russell
>ONLY think it does well is the scenes with Arthur facing his own mortality with either the nun or the pastor.
These scenes only work because of the blunder after blunder the gang and narrative take. If anything the game could have been longer and there should have been more narrative buildup pre-blackwater heist to show us how strong the father/son/brother bond is between Dutch/Arthur/John and further elaborate how strained it becomes during the desperate situation they're in during Chapter 6. There's a weird pacing issue with Chapter 2/3/4 where just as they're starting to get interesting the plot points introduced get resolved rather quickly so we can be shuffled off to the next area of the map. Dunno what the fuck they were smoking when they made Chapter 5, while it does show that Dutch's plans are a fucking mess and even after unintentionally escaping to a 'tropical paradise' they're still being hunted the missions here in general just plain suck.
>25 and talking about being mature when you're fresh off college lel
Well I'm not I've worked a full time job for about 4 years now so? I guess you're free to judge me as immature but I'm being sincere when saying that the story and Arthur's struggles resonated with me.
Blake Peterson
I can’t bring myself to play it after the story’s over. Fuck john and his shitty farm.
William Green
It's not. The game is a prequel, it was sold on the premise of showing how the gang fell apart, by the time RDR1 starts most of them are already dead and fairly early on you know the names of all living gang members. The epilogue is a spoiler but everyone should have known Arthur was going to die from the moment he was introduced.
Ryan Carter
Honestly feel that how he dies is a bigger spoiler than knowing that he dies, even though it's alluded to in the first 10 hours of the story.
Jason Taylor
>made an ending so depressing I can't bring myself to play it again
That's a compliment .
Christian Evans
The game looked wack from the reveal. I don't know how any of you supposed smartasses fell for this shit. It's NuRockstar. GTAV should've told you everything you need to know about them.
>called Red Dead II
>is a prequel
>Spaghetti Western aesthetic
>Weak, generic, modern Western OST.
>being put on a pedestal, Rockstar has started essentially nothing about their games before release.
>Rockstar expects you to suck their dicks and buy anyway, simply because it's them.
>needlessly sluggish, PITA gameplay.
>Reviewers criticizing this, but 10/10 best game ever anyway.
It was obvious they're not the same company anymore. Past successes have permitted them a big budget to blind gfx whores with the illusion they're still great. That's all it is.
Jacob Gray
Fuck off, RDR1 doesn't prove shit.
For one RDR2 does convenient retcons here and there.
Second, RDR2 has plenty of gang members who are shown to survive.
>Trelawny
>Pearson
>Charles
>Sadie
>Karen
>Tilly and Mary Beth
So it was not at all unthinkable Arthur could survive by taking a boat ride overseas or alternative retiring to New Austin and dying offscreen.
Jose Hernandez
I can only imagine how disappointed you would be if you were hyped up for an 11/10 going off all the reviews/bull shots. While I really like Rockstar's games I had no expectations for RDR2 (and didn't even know it was coming out a week before release, would have probably forgotten about it entirely if it wasn't for someone in my family letting me know it was coming out) after the mess that was GTA O. It became a 10/10 game for me because I went in completely blind with zero expectations other than 'it'll be a rockstar game so it'll play like a rockstar game'.
Julian Bennett
>the horses are better than RDR1
Why the hell would you think otherwise? The horses in 2 are objectively better in every way
Jason Sanders
Shown to survive RDR2. RDR is explicit in saying that by the beginning of the game Bill, Javier, Dutch, and the Marstons are the only ones still alive. Even if you could make a case for some of the smaller characters like the women who just sat in camp and bitched all day not being relevant enough to be hunted down, there's no way Dutch's goddamn right hand man would have ever made it out alive.
Like said, knowing how he dies is the actual spoiler. Acting like Arthur's death is somehow a spoiler is hardcore mental gymnastics to either justify getting mad at people for "spoiling" it or proof that you're an ignorant retard who picked up the game purely due to hype with 0 knowledge of the premise or series.
Liam Adams
Yes, I love the new weighty tanks that reach a top speed of 2 MPH and ragdoll halfway across the map the second you go over a pebble like it's fucking GTA 4.
I just expected more of RDR1 with better graphics and what I got was a sluggish, cinematic storytelling focused version of that with pretty much all of the fun sucked out.
Eli Taylor
Why is every loner you meet such a dick?
>Skinning an animal in sight of a tent
>They go mad and try to shoot you
>Hunting an animal near a road
>Rider on road goes mental and threatens to shoot you
Elijah Bell
The game feels like an adult version of Bully if you play it like this. If the NPC attacks you first, you don't even get in any trouble for beating them up in the middle of town. The law will even help you, and nobody will report seeing their unconscious body because it was self defense
Bentley Hernandez
>There's no way Dutch's right hand man would have ever made it out alive
Literally proven false by the Pinkertons offering him a deal in exchange for Dutch. So he could've agreed towards the end and gotten a new identity, his crimes erased.
The more you argue that Arthur's death is not a spoiler the dumber you look.
Isaac Hill
0 iq post
Angel Hall
>Literally proven false by the Pinkertons offering him a deal in exchange for Dutch.
Yeah, that worked out for John, right?
William Phillips
What does the horse inventory offer that the full wepon wheel doesnt?
Try not to excuse it as realistic or ""immersive"" because video games shoulnt ditch perfectly functional mechanics to seem like movies.
Henry Perez
Realism is the excuse for all of the unfun bullshit in 2.
>Carrying 200 bear pelts at once ruins MUH IMMERSION!
Great, now you get to carry one on your horse and ride 40 minutes back into town to sell it. Also now you're only getting 3 dollars because you didn't kill it the way I said to and you got a bad roll on the bear spawns.
Connor Gonzalez
>that worked out for John right?
Different scenario, he didn't make a deal woth the Pinkertons, he made a deal with the proto-FBI and they did honor the deal for a while. What I'm assuming is that John's existence and knowledge of the dirty work the agency did for the governor Nate Johns made him a big liability and thus a target.
Regardless of what happened in RDR1, there's no guarantee that the same would've happened for Arthur. You can keep posting your gay anime reaction faves and smug condescending gotcha replies but saying Arthur dies within the evdnts of RDR2 without a fucking doubt counts as spoilers.
Evan Price
Horse inventory and limited carrying your person achieves the following :
>makes your loadout choice matter more when away from the horse
>balance between keeping your horse close in combat where you risk it dying but have weapon swap nearby
>keeps weapon wheel from being cluttered as fuck, perfect for quick switching in combat
Jayden Mitchell
Imagine going this far out of your way to defend thinking Arthur would have lived when the first game outright lets you know the score with the gang. That's really all I have to say but it's fun to keep picking apart your points. Hell, I don't even need to go as far as picking things from the first game, I could just point at Rockstar's tired old writing style that they have used in every game since GTA 4. RDR2 even uses the same twist as 1, though that's at least defensible as having a thematic purpose.
Logan Peterson
Yikes
Isaac Cox
based rdr1horse user
Blake Ward
>Imagine going this far out of your way to defend thinking Arthur would've lived
The first game doesn't matter necause it does not confirm anything about Arthur. He could've escaped for all we know. Or again, died offscreen without explanation. Your logic does not matter because outright saying Arthur dies removes all uncertainty from his fate and shits on the atmosphere.
Earlier in the thread some fag intentionally spoiled the game's twists to a new player just to be an asdhole and you defending said spoilers kinda makes me think you're a ban evading faggot that was responsible for it.
Dylan Diaz
>John has to hunt down all ACTIVE members of the Van Der Linde gang
not even that guy but actually pay attention to the games your playing
Bill, Javier and Dutch where still being Outlaws by the tine RDR started
Mason Lewis
t. faggot that never played RDR
In RDR, you can be in a full sprint, whistle, and your horse will catch up to you while you're running so you can hop on. Now try that in RDR2.
Yeah. Eat shit.
Justin Morales
>Spaghetti western aesthetic
>even tough the game mirrors more like Classic western trough color pallete and scenery
>Modern western OST
>heavy trumpets and trombones wich are also clearly inspired by classic westerns, RDR's being more modern by having a electronic sound to it
its funny when you people talk about shit you dont know dick about
Jonathan Sanders
that doesn't make the horses in 1 better lol
Brody Ramirez
but it is immersive and that isnt a bad thing just because you say
Brody Sanders
Nope. I'll admit there were some legitimate spoilers posted earlier but no matter what kind of logical hoops you jump through I can only see people getting mad about the Arthur "spoiler" is hype train faggots that didn't play the first one. You keep saying "this could have happened, that could have happened, 1 never specifically mentioned Arthur" but the fact is what was MOST LIKELY to happen did indeed happen. Like, going back to the Pinkerton thing you mentioned. Say he took the deal. You really think he would've just gotten a happy ending? He just completely vanishes from the timeline at that point? The only way to explain his utter lack of a presence in 1 despite being so central in 2 is to have him be long dead by the time 1 starts, which is the logical conclusion just from having played the first game anyway.
I played it just a few months ago and I don't remember them ever specifically saying "active" members. That wouldn't make sense anyway because neither of them are active members of the Van Der Linde gang at that point anyway, they're both doing their own thing and Javier was in Mexico the whole time IIRC, unlike Bill who fled there after John's first attack. Beside that the FBI wipes out the Marstons afterward and they were actively trying to get out of the gang at that point. Even if you buy into the other user's theory that was only justification for John. They wiped out the WHOLE gang.
Brody Martin
>dude im just giving away major plotpoints later on in the story it's not a spoiler bro wtff
Jacob Lee
My only issue with the game is how worthless money is past chapter 1. Sure you buy and customize your guns and get a better horse but after that there’s nothing to buy, all of the clothes are the same in every town with different colors and I didn’t find anywhere to gamble with real stakes and not shit 4 dollar games the high roller table in black water apparently doesn’t exist yet.
Luke Cooper
>dude I'm just saying if you didn't play the first game this shit is a spoiler wtf don't spoil me lol even though I'm in a thread about a story centric game months after a release
Elijah Phillips
the first game didn't confirm shit my man.
Samuel Ortiz
>I am forgotten
You killed yourself mate
Gabriel Myers
>hype train faggots
You ever realized that MAYBE people in 2018 aren't gonna buy a dead console just to play RDR1 especially since RDR2 is a PREQUEL. If you're a moron and go confirming / deconfirming stuff to ruin the excitement from people wanted to figure out what happened to Arthur.
>Do you think he would've gotten a happy ending?
Possibly, there was nothing concrete to indicate otherwise. At least it would've been cool for the spoiiled people to find out on their own instead of having a smug cunt like you tell them what happens and then pretend that bruh lmao it wasn't spoilers becuz it was totes obvious.
Asher Sanders
Ryder Butler
BC/PSN solves the "dead console" problem, though honestly if people can't bother to be even somewhat invested in something they supposedly care so much about then I don't really care about any of their opinions on it. I don't see why I'm expected to care if someone thinks something that has been common knowledge for a decade is actually a spoiler because they decided to start with the prequel since it's the hot new thing. I also genuinely don't go around spoiling things, I just think it's funny when people get asshurt about stuff that they literally turned into a spoiler for themselves. Before RDR2 came out people were constantly talking about how Arthur was going to die and if RDR2 would have the same epilogue twist but with John instead of Jack. Then RDR2 comes out and suddenly there are newfags everywhere acting like Arthur dying wasn't the most predictable shit in the world even if you didn't play 1.
This thread started off with some dumbass practically asking for spoilers anyway.
Jackson Wilson
>PSN
lol. It's still a spoiler retard, nothing about Arthur is confirmed in 1
Thomas Phillips
Okay, keep telling yourself that. I bet you think Bill, Dutch, Javier, and the Marstons being alive in 1 is a spoiler for 2 as well since that confirms they don't die.
Bentley Robinson
lol cope
Adrian Murphy
Cope with what? You're the one who was completely assblasted by a single spoiler.
Aaron Scott
and yet you're the one crying, curious.
Aaron Richardson
Crying from laughing at your pitiful responses maybe. Come on dude, you say I'm crying while you are literally resorting to "u mad" and totally unaffected lowercase. Transparent as fuck.
Luis Bennett
meme all you want but it's still a spoiler :^)
Caleb Cox
it literally isn't a singleplayer only game
Jaxson Jones
yeah it is