Multiple times during development Itsuno questioned whether or not it was worth making V be a playable charterer

>multiple times during development Itsuno questioned whether or not it was worth making V be a playable charterer
Well Yea Forums, did they make the right call in having him be a playable?

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yes, he's all around fun to play and william blake poems are based af, getting S ranks with him in dmd is a chore but its dmd after all

Honestly i'm not sure, I like him as a character but I think most people given the option would prefer to play as nero or dante through the whole game, having the option to play through the whole game as any character after completing the game would solve this.

>v over Vergil
hahahaha fucking retard

Yes, i loved his segments. Very flashy with constant explosions and enemies bouncing off the walls and him doing fun chuuni shit.

Nah. I hate how indirect and detached it feels from it all. He should have been able to jump in himself with his cane too at least. pussybitch

He's a nice change of pace compared to Nero and Dante, I'd say he was a worthwhile addition.

No, he's fucking retarded. What a dumb move.

his later missions really kill the game for me
the second half of the game is already kind of a slog, and playing him in the same-looking environments just leaves me wishing I was Nero and Dante right now

also his control scheme is a mess

I quite like V's playstyle, so yeah I'd say it was worthwhile. But I do wish he had more moves.

Yes. He is fun and unique. He just need a few tweaks and some more options. He should have unlocked more summons as you progress.

He has unique learning experience, quite a paradigm shift from the relatively similar Nero's and Dante's (basic) gameplay. Looking forward to his combo video tbqh

Its very interesting playstyle, and I hope its turned into a Summoner/Beastmaster class for Dogma 2.

Absolutely yes. The reason V is so controversial is because his gameplay removes the most basic part of action/hacknslash games: visceral feedback.

When you hit a button, you swing a sword and the visual/auditory feedback gives you immediate positive feedback. Attacks feel good. Even mashing buttons in a bad action game is satisfying to a primitive part of our brains. And all action game evolution is focused on building on top of that, adding strategy, strict timing, and situational awareness to increase the challenge of the game and increase the skill ceiling. But it's always based on that primitive desire to hit things with a stick. When you get the timing right for a RG or max-act then you get a nice big bright light and satisfying noise to let you know YOU DID GOOD JOB and that feedback is necessary to keep the player interested.

V shoves all that out of the window. His attacks are not satisfying because there's additional separation between the attack and the player. It's not immediate. It's not visceral. You're seeing the battlefield from a distance, the game makes no effort to make you feel connected to the action. The combos remain, the strategy and skill remain, but everything that's primitive about action games is removed. And it's still fun. You get the same rush, it's just not as immediate. You have to wait to set up executions to get that payoff, that visceral sense of accomplishment. By forcing you to pay attention to your summons, you're engaged in a completely different way. You're paying attention to everything that's happening, not just your avatar. And when you get closer to the action, it actually feels like you're taking a big risk. It's intimidating to close that gap in order to get more damage, because the game doesn't make you feel like an invincible badass.

I honestly think this is to action games what Picasso was to art. It throws out the rulebook of how to make a good action game and rediscovers what makes these games fun.

He's good, don't know if there's some lack of moves but it's kinda letdown that this 'teleports behind you' move shown in trailer with Cavaliere is just kill animation. I thought it's some kind of move which Dudley has in SFIV.

Yes and no. He's a working prototype, good building blocks for something new, but he has no real place in DMC and while he can be fun, at any given time I'd still rather be playing Dante or Nero. But with how the industry is now and how Capcom is now, making a new IP for a new character with a new style of combat is a risk they wouldn't take; in that sense it was either the working prototype gets done for DMC5 or it doesn't get done. So I'm glad he exists, I'm interested to see what's done with the building blocks in future, but I'd still rather be playing Dante or Nero. I like him as a character, though.

No, he's just objectively less fun than Nero or Dante. The game would've been improved without him being playable.

I loved him in Blackkklansman.

Instead of V they could have made at least one of the following:

New weapons for Nero
More weapons for Dante
A playable Virgil
A playable Trish
A playable Lady

The story also would have been objectively better, less gay, less edgy(in the bad way), and make more sense.

If I had to choose one reason I didn't buy the game after pirating it, it would be because of V.

Fuck Itsuno and fuck Capcom, they're a bunch of niggers.

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>m-muh virgil

no one has really put in the time to try and get good with V yet so its hard to say

>A playable Virgil
Well I mean technically

>Vergil
>not edgy
>Trish/Lady
>not gay
Begone, criminal scum. A thief's opinion doesn't matter.

There is no such thing. V is just shit. It can look cool but the depth is arbitrary.

solid analysis

>pirate waifufag things his opinions matter
Begone

I would say yes, V is fun to play as and gives DMC5 more of its own identity, rather than being DMC4.5.
He's a bit undercooked compared to Nero and Dante though.

No he was fucking awful. To think that could have been Lady instead or just more Dante missions desu

Thats the sole reason 5 exists. DMC5 is literally Virgil fan service: the video game

But he's not edgy at all, what are you talking about? He sounds more polite than all characters in the game.
Only tats and coat made your opinion?

WHY CAN'T I DO ROYAL FORK CONSISTENTLY AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHH

He's great, I just wish he was in the game more and actually his own character instead of only being Vergil's human-half. Felt like kind of a waste.

Imagine defending V.

How the fuck am I a waifufag? Grasping at straws here.

> A playable Virgil
But he is.
youtube.com/watch?v=oKWG7TuOpW8

Look everyone, it's the worst post in the thread!

Vergil and the never paid maintenance for Nero

>summoning demons while reading poetry and spouting edgy quotes
>gothic emo style, all black, with bangs, covered in tattoos
>not edgy

I'd like to know how you think being polite or rude has anything to do with being edgy. God you fucking faggots, of all things to defend you are defending V?

Enjoy paying for it.

I bought deluxe because of "Capcom take all my money". And I still willing to give them money.

Okay, but you realize the entire series was edgy mixed with a lot of cheese, right? So complaining about a character being edgy is kind of moot

Fuck that loser. I hope whoever Capcom hands DMC6 to doesn't make dumb nigger mistakes like V.

You have to start somewhere, I feel. Especially with how weird he is.
I mean Nero was in the same situation in 4, with some cool stuff but kind of boring overall. If anything V is in a better place. Add more summons and the ability to cycle through them and he'll be crazy fun

I specified "in a bad way", don't be illiterate.

Too bad there is not chance of V ever coming back

They took a risk and did something new, good for them.

Vergil came back from much, much worse, no way they couldn't bring him back somehow
Or just roll him into DD2

Playing V just feels like I'm warming up to play Dante or Nero. You basically get to mix up combos and practice multitasking in safer and easier situations

They should have given him Phantom as well. I feel like he's missing a bit of something, maybe Phantom that's always close to him so having V inside enemy range can have some benefits.

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there's only a few things that make me dislike playing V

>if his finisher misses and he's in the air he can't teleport again without landing
>sometimes shadow will come back to you even if you don't dash
>nightmare spends a lot of time doing nothing

Having to rely on things that aren't in your control just feels bad, especially in a game like this where landing a hit or not can seriously fuck you up.

V's gameplay is literally the worst part of the game. Just mashing buttons and getting SSS without even trying. V's missions are probably the only S-ranks most people will get in this game.

You should be able to choose between Nightmare and Phantom. Nightmare is cool but he's slow as all hell, I was even having trouble getting him near Goliath.

I really like V.

How is he edgy in a bad way? You just want everything tailored to your own personal preferences, I guess. I'd say V is way less edgy in a bad way than Donte

Donte is worse but V is still bad. I don't know what you want me to say, I've already explained what was wrong with the character.

>smirks @ u despite being weak
>SSS ranks doing nothing
>*vanishes from the game universe after making DMC5 worse*

>you can't play the whole game as Dante
doesn't matter, the only decision that mattered and they failed

Yes and no. His playstyle is different, but not nearly as engaging OR expansive enough as Nero's and Dante's, so he feels slower and boring in comparison, at least to me.
He only has two genuine combos, and the rest of his attack options are basically AOE's as you read a book and taunt/dodge all the time. I mean, shit, he's supposed to be Vergil's clone, right? And he has those wierd afterimages when you warp in to kill enemies (Doppleganger), plus the ability to make spectral canes (summoned swords) like Vergil. Why couldn't they expand on those, as well as add it at LEAST two more melee combos as shadow, so he's at least on par with Nero and Dante?

I say all this but I cannot stress enough that I actually did like playing as V, but you can just feel that he was kind of shoehorned in as "something new" for 5 so the game didn't play EXACTLY like 4.
Anons have been saying that he was basically Capcom's testing ground for magic in Dragon's Dogma 2, and I completely believe it.

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Should make V a thing in 4 and get rid of fucking Nero. Nero as MC is a biggest fucking mistake Itsuno ever make.

>One of those red orb punching bags on a tiny platform
>Prepare to let loose on that son of a bitch
>Cat drops from the platform after the first strike and the punching bag solidifies before I get him back
BAD KITTY

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Holy shit

has anyone actually tried getting good with v and has tips to share?

i was thinking of only playing with shadow for a while and trying to get used to doing stuff with him, then start sliding iago in then nightmare, similar how people play dante with 1 style then start adding another then another etc

...No. Play him as he's actually intended, keep V away from the fight and send Shadow and Griffon on the closest enemies. Power them up with a gauge of DT or two when you down a big hitter. Summon Nightmare when one or both go down. Taunt and read a book the rest of the way.

Whatever it is you're talking about doing with him makes no sense. He doesn't have that many moves to begin with, so you only want to use Shadow? Huh?

Anyone have a more sensible control scheme to use with V? Trying to smash both square and triangle feels like ass

>charterer
que

Put Griffon on L1/R1. You should be doing this with every character anyway, everyone benefits from being able to passively charge their gun while doing stuff

Yeah. He's fun and just edgy enough that it's endearing rather than cringe.

>V
>Edgy
Not really and he's not emo either which is quite surprising, to be honest.

Yes, but they should have made all his missions playable with other characters

>he's not emo
William Blake is pretty fucking emo, user.

V is just based.
it's a shame he's hated by some guys in the community. (like Nero's was before i guess.)

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I think it’ll be near impossible for people to actually get good with him bcause of the nature of the pets, they don’t always read inputs instantly, sometimes they have to get summoned close to you, sometimes they have to walk near the enemy to attack etc.

He's acting too serious while everyone looking at him like "You wot m8" that kinda looks comic and makes his "edginess" irrelevant. Yet he knows he'll die soon and should complete his mission. I think it's done on purpose.
That moment where he goes Yoda style and says he must kill demons near Nero is absurd.

V is shit, Nero is infinitely better.

Nero still is, fuck him stealing Dante’s spotlight

He's alright but not nearly as fleshed out as Nero or Dante but he's a welcomed change of pace. Basically a prototype summoner vocation for DD2.

Does Nero have less potential than Dante? I feel like he cant do much because of the lack of variety in his moveset.

No, his missions should have gone to Dante who is way more fun to play.

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>The Alpha and the Omega - Vergil
>Bewitching Devil - Trish
>Legendary Devil Hunter - Dante
>Devil Hunter - Nero

I absolutely love the titles every character got, I almost had an orgasm when I saw Vergil’s

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Lady's was a bit sexist.

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>Dante and V
>Play decently but have to work for every S rank and consciously try and raise style as much as possible without getting hit
>Nero mission happens
>Shred every single enemy type in seconds and even pop S-ranks on bosses like it's breathing

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The devil breakers give tons of potential, but he obviously can’t reach anything close to Dante’s levels because of the sheer variety of stuff always available to you as Dante (you can mix 4 different styles, 4 ranged weapons, 4 melee weapons)

didn't mean to quote

>If I had to choose one reason I didn't buy the game after pirating it, it would be because of V.
You know that's not the reason why. It has nothing to do with the game itself, otherwise you wouldn't be playing it. You either live in a poor country or you just like having things for free. Don't pretend that you pirated this game out of principle.

>Dante didn't eat or drink for an entire month, just slept after he got fucked up
So is Dante functionally immortal? Why is he aging?

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Nero is very stuck in his ways. The devil breakers help, but the fact they can break so easily and you have to charge each one up for it's "super move" kills the flow of battle and all it takes is a gentle stroke to make you lose one. Other than that, he's a very aerial-focused swordsman and that's about it.
Dante has WAY more stuff going on with him, but sadly he has less missions than Nero so there's less opportunity to really flex your muscle with him.

This is why I fucking hate V, who's way more boring and kills the pace of the game, and in Dante's series he's pushed even further out of mission variety by having more missions be given to V which could have gone to Dante to let you play with all his swords, guns, styles, and new devil trigger.

The character with the most tools should get the most missions.

Got this screenshot during a Vergil fight and instantly knew what had to be done.

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>So is Dante functionally immortal?
The guy gets stabbed several times in cutscenes in every single game, what do you think?
He ages because of his human side.

>not 200% hat

No, because he's actually so awesome that it's heartbreaking to know that we will never go on an adventure with him again. Maybe Vergil will get his cane and have the old moveset back, or maybe he'll be a dlc character in future games, but it's not the same as him actually having his own story.

>Why is he aging?
Dante and Vergil don't drink human blood so I assume that's why they age like normal humans, since they're half human.

>Nico builds a full-on mech suit and becomes playable
How would you feel?

But V's missions are comparatively shorter than Dante's

People are still not really fond of Nero as MC, user. They like the guy though but just not as MC.

wait, when the fuck does v fight vergil?

>But V's missions are comparatively shorter than Dante's
And there are still only 20 missions.
Three of them are single boss fights.
One of them is just three rooms.
Three are V-only missions.

The game is fucking great but it has some major flaws.

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Through hacks. Obviously it's for BP when it gets implemented

V-haters confirmed for most braindead part of the fandom.

four of them are single bossfights friend.

I'd love playing as her, so sure.
As long as the mech doesn't explode on contact I mean.

Eh. I can see how a third character with a playstyle completely different from Dante and Nero sounds like a good idea, to keep things varied and fresh, but V's kit is just shit so all his inclusion really does is turn every mission with him into a chore where I wish I was playing as Nero or Dante instead. I think a more traditional sorcerer/battlemage kit would've been a better idea, or a gunner specialist of some type. I think that's what Lady is, but I haven't played her so don't know how well they pulled that off in her games.

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I put him on LT and shadow on RT
Y for reading book, X for steroids

Half demon

V seems way more well-received than Nero was. And people are still fucking bitching about Nero.

>I want the same game every time!
Stuck-up people like you deserved the shitty reboot. Also, fuck trying to justify your piracy. People like you will make up any bullshit to not support something that's good for what you supposedly love, you fucking non-fan.

>so don't know how well they pulled that off in her games.
Poorly, but that's mostly DMC4 not being balanced around her at all.

source?

Pretty sure he ages because he wants to, and doesn't force his power to make him younger/stop aging. I'd say he's more than strong enough to do so if he chose

Itsuno mistake is trying to make Nero replace Dante as "the guy" of MC. Nero is a likable character but he just does not work as MC simply because Dante already exist.

My big beef with this game is just that, for all the time and effort the team spent on the game it still feels just a little undercooked. It's most apparent in the story, people don't push the narrative that there's no stakes because it's the truth, it's just that the story's tone and pacing makes you feel like there's no stakes. The game has no rising action, you're thrust right into the middle of an attempt to upheave Urizen as soon as you start and from then on the game jumps from perspective to perspective back and forth on the timeline with no sense of consistency or buildup to anything that's happening. And it takes place over what, like a month? And Urizen is still just sitting on his ass drinking kool-aid despite the game wanting us to believe he'll eventually bring about the end of the world if he's not stopped? There's no tension, build, or sense of real urgency to anything.

I feel like the lack of focus affects the boss selection too. You can really feel the difference in quality between bosses like Cavaliere and Malphas vs duds like Gilgamesh and Artemis.

yes i enjoy his character from looks to personality to playstyle i wish he didnt die

This.

I love him and it HURTS

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New character with different playstyle could have been one that is entirely focused around ranged weapons like literally using bazookas and shit where the playstyle mainly revolves around blowing multiple enemies into the air and then sniping them, lining up angles for piercing bullets, throwing out nets to group them up etc. Think of him as a Japanese version of an Australian bush hunter.

When his combos work and your summons actually hit shit, and nightmare actually does something, chaining executions, he feels like an artist.

When it doesnt go right it is immensely annoying and hurtful to my hand.

Dante and Vergil meet the demonic weaponsmith that forged Sparda's blade while in the demon world. He becomes a playable character.

>what does he look like?
>what's his personality?
>what's his playstyle?
>what's his signature color?

>You can really feel the difference in quality between bosses like Cavaliere and Malphas vs duds like Gilgamesh and Artemis.
That's every DMC, still nothing as terrible as the worst of 3.

Anyone else immediately disregard the opinion of anyone who can't spell a character's name right?

>A unique and interesting character like V has to go
>A boring fuck and NotDante like Nero still stay

Talk about a big fucking mistake

Honestly, he shines against waves of mobs where no matter what your summons do, they hit a shitton of things and you can start jumping around.

That'll be Lady when they redo her for DMC5. What I want is someone who uses fists, like Balrog, but finetuned and who has styles that revolve only around fists. So from karate to boxing to grapples and grabs. Would be fucking stellar.

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I definitely agree there. For what it's worth DMC5 is shaping up to be my favorite, but that's going to ride on Bloody Palace nailing what it's supposed to do.

I immediately disregard anyone who uses edgy and gay as crticisms against something and thinks using nigger is okay outside of Yea Forums and /pol/ or any other shitter containment board.

I don't mind Nero though...

I wish he and V were brothers.

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Yes. V is the only character that really looks next-gen in the game.

Gilgamesh and Artemis both had some things going for them though. They both weren't amazing or anything but they were decent enough. Would hardly call them duds.

>Urizen
Dude just want to kill Dante he never give a fuck about destroying the world n shit.

>thinking Capcom gives a fuck about Lady
>thinking Capcom gives a fuck about female characters in DMC

HAHAHHAHAHAHAAA

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Really wish you autistic Nero haters would fuck off already. I'm willing to bet there's like 3 of you that just won't shut the fuck up, you post the same "not-dante" shit every time as if you're not wrong and retarded

Artemis is fun as fuck. Really showcases how much air control Nero has.

I'd say so. He certainly doesn't have the insane combo potential of Dante and Nero but his gameplay was still run and pretty different to anything we've seen in a DMC game before so I'd say his addition was a net positive.

Rest in peace little chicken... it’s been a bash

youtu.be/_kwrOIg8T20?t=498
Look at the bottom left as nero is almost out of frame of this shot. His head does a weird bobble thing. Anybody got an explanation for it? Are these "real time" cut-scenes or just using the engine?

Seriously, Itsuno creates V a tad too late. He should replace Nero in DMC4. Many fans are not fond of Nero because he's too much alike Dante aka a badass white hair dude with big ass sword and a gun and personality wise he has too many semblances with Dante.

If you can't tell how Nero and Dante are different that is literally a personal problem, that is you being unable to see nuance. He's a main part of the series now so you might as well deal with it

No hes boring as fuck and clunky to play
Looks like a faggot to
The most optimal way to play him funny enough is to point the camera into a wall and read poetry while putting the demons on auto berserk mode so they tear everything up with no resistance

V became the most fun to go back and get S ranks for when I realized The strat is to put as many enemies in stalemate simultaneously as I can before chain-killing them. There’s something extremely satisfying to it.

I simply point out why some "faggot" called him "NotDante" or "Mini-Dante" and why some people are not so fond of him despite being a face of 2 DMC game.

If you are so pissed about it then just ignore me.

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I just wish I could control catto more precisely, is there a way to just spawn him directly in front of you?

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>spam buttons
>summon DT
>continue spamming buttons
>read book after DT dies
>summon DT again
>SSS everytime
wow yeah what a great character

Do the side dodge. It'll spawn right next to you.

He would've been if they had given him a full moveset, made Nightmare not shit, and didn't shoehorn him in beyond "we need an extra character so this game isn't COMPLETELY a 4 rehash"...only to fucking turn around and write him out of the story anyway.
His missions were fine. Not bad, not good, not great. Just fine.

Thank for this post

You can do a side dodge to get him back to your side, but if the platform is too small it can be a hassle.

Fagget

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even though he's underdeveloped he's a nice template for a summoner / wizard archetype in hardcore action games which is really valuable since almost all of them rely on melee combat so in my eyes it was absolutely worth it

EVEN THE CAT KNOWS YOU'RE A FUCKING IDIOT

>SHIT FOR BRAINS

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>Dude commits mass genocide and sucks up millions of humans blood so he can make a fruit and then gets dunked on by Dante three times in a row and then his own son.
>"well I'm outta here before I have to face the consequences of my own actions. See ya."
>Everyone just laughs and goes "oh, Vergil!"

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You must have missed the part where they hammer in that killing your own family members is not a trivial thing

oh, Vergil

What part of this is a japanese franchise do you not get?

Vergil is just fucking Vegeta.

Vegeta did all of that and the dude enjoys a family life on Earth sparring with Goku

what exactly is V? what happens to him? does he exist within virgil still?

But killing a million humans is I suppose?

I mean Arkham was an unrepentant bastard and Lady still broke down when she shot him.
Though Dante could have killed Vergil in the end and that would have satisfied your moralfag boner. And fail to resolve the plot in a satisfying manner but hey, them's the breaks

So was there any reason in particular Vergil's human side decided to pick up poetry?

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My point is what's stopping Vergil from lusting for power again? He said himself this squabble isn't over, are you really going to stand aside and let him commit MORE atrocities just because "killing a family member is bad"?

How much rage and anger would you create if you let it slip that the guy who murdered so many people was just let go with a wave and a pat on the back? How much revenge would you stew? You expect people to just go "haha well that's shitty but he's your brother/father so I understand!"

This is less about morality and more about preventing future sacrifices and justice.

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that book belonged to him as a child because he always loved poetry.

Poetry is a very human thing, so it makes sense that something incredibly human that he loved when he was young would manifest in his human avatar

Because Vergil likes poetry.

Vergil was always one of those types. Dante listens to music, Vergil reads poetry.

His lust for power is done. That was the entire point of V. By splitting himself in two his human half was able to learn how foolish he was so that when he merged again he retained all that knowledge.

Why do you think he thanks Nero? Because Nero helped him realize this. In the end he is finally on good terms and has a brotherly relationship with Dante.

His power boner is gone.

>the part where Nero and V just walk away as the tree roots start massacring people behind them

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He was a good character but obviously out of the main three he’s the least polished and least fun to play. Once you actually get into the rhythm of his gameplay it’s pretty fun but feels undercooked still, kinda like Nero in 4. I guess it’s cause he hasn’t had multiple games and over a decade of extra thought put into him. I’m torn because while one of the things I wanted more of was Nero and Dante missions I still like V. Honestly the campaign needed to be longer to accomodate all three characters better. V doesn’t even get a climactic boss fight like the others, his last playable appearance is a boss rush using other character’s bosses then hiding terrified from Malphas waiting for Nero to save him.

Agreed. Phantom and Nelo were desperately needed, even if Phantom resembled Kyklops or better yet, was a Nightmare replacement. Maybe Nelo replaces Shadow and Plasma replaces Griffon.

SAVIOR

I could get behind it in DMC1-4 because it's a very anime art style. In DMC5 though it's really jarring seeing shit like that happen.

Because of the DmC fanbase and general autism. It's the same faggots who think Donte 2.0 aka Nuro isn't a shit character. They will also defend Nico.

No. It should have been Lucia instead. Salvaging the only good thing about DMC2 would have been fantastic

If you check his entry in Nico's reports, the tree was feeding him power which was likely keeping him alive. Probably something to do with Sparda being there and the large root/bulb that erected next to them.

BLOODSTAIN

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>V says we need to destroy the Qliphoth roots
>do so
>nothing happens
>game ends with the bros jumping into hell to sever the Qliphoth roots...???

What was the point of severing the earthside roots then???

Right, so you obviously missed the part where V talked about how horribly guilty he was over everything, and was fully prepared to die.
Or that the first thing Vergil does when he comes back to life is wait somewhere for a duel to the death with Dante. Dude's fucking done, he's got no more plans, he just wants to go out on his terms and settle things with Dante before he goes.

Vergil was always into poetry, read the stuff in the gallery. He got the book as a gift from a librarian as a kid because he was always reading poetry. V is basically Vergil if he didn’t have his demon side constantly making him lust for power. If Vergil wasn’t half demon he’d act like V does.

He doesn't want more people to die

>All over Yea Forums I see huge amounts of V hate
>Almost every thread has people complaining how he ruins the game, isn't fun to play, poetry is gay(?) etc

I get it, his playstyle is a bit different and might not be for everyone but fucking hell this seems like some sort of intense shitposting at this point.

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SHADOW

YOU'RE A SUPERSTAR V

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It's not even that, it just fundamentally goes against everything Nero is, and V is meant to be a good guy who (according to the novel) stays behind in Redgrave rescuing people. And it's just tree roots, they've been inside the thing, likely destroyed part of the tree to gain access, killed a ton of empusa, but because Urizen slapped them around they're gonna stand there and watch people dying and do absolutely nothing about it. It's just dumb.

>Right, so you obviously missed the part where V talked about how horribly guilty he was over everything, and was fully prepared to die.
Maybe you kept missing the fucking sinister grins he was making, or that instead of killing Urizen like he promised, he merged with him to become whole again.

Actions speak louder than words, idiot.

Personally I wish his segments were skippable on higher difficulties. On a first playthrough hes good but when you're actually trying to get good at the game hes a slog to play.

How should I be playing DD? I just feel as though I'm not enjoying it as much as I should be. I have Dark Arisen or whatever that's called?

I think it was to reduce the flow of blood to Urizen and the fruit to weaken him and buy more time, but of course it didn’t end up working out that way for them.

>beat the game by mashing Y and pressing A to dodge

Did I do it wrong?

Yes. You need to style.

I did though.

V is better than Vergil

ur a faget

It's not that he's not fun to play, it's that he's extremely less fun to play than Nero and Dante. His playstyle is literally built around keeping him out of the fight and watching/controlling others do the work for you.

The opening few hours are honestly a slog, but once you get to the city it starts to pick up. What class are you playing? The only one that isn’t fun to play as is mage since that’s more of a support class, but once you reach the city you can change into sorcerer which is the offender magic class. Otherwise just take your time, it’ll click for you eventually. Dark Arisen is the expansion, on your minimap it’s the purple quest marker. It’s balanced for characters who’ve beat the game once already though, but you can go there whenever if you feel like it.

I look forward to playing him in bloody palace but I think he has the weaker levels of the bunch, and bosses pretty much don't know what to do when you're playing as him.

He scratched my Chaos Legion itch at least.

honestly, yeah. I could press a button to kill a million strangers pretty easy but I wouldn't pres it to kill someone I care about

Maybe you should have noticed that up until Trish motivated him to see things through he was okay with someone else killing Urizen. It was only then that he became obsessed with reaching Urizen, because he wanted that last fight with Dante
But sure, the whole game was V playing 5D chess to gain ultimate power and piss it away on a pointless duel to the death. Makes perfect sense.

I didn't enjoy playing as him that much personally but I'm glad he exists mainly because with some refinement, V's play style could work in another game like Dragon's Dogma for instance. It just wasn't very fitting for me in a game like DMC where I just want to fuck shit up with Dante and Nero.

It's okay to be poor user. I hope you have more fun playing bloody palace when it comes next month. It's a good game.

>And fail to resolve the plot in a satisfying manner
If you think Nero ex Machina is a satisfying resolution to the plot then you're retarded.

>V-haters confirmed for most braindead part of the fandom.
I'm not poor though, I pirated it purely out of principle.

DmC2 no thanks, I didn't buy DmC either.

>I want shit sequels!
>I buy shit sequels!
Retarded shill.

It's better than Nero still being dead weight and Dante losing his brother for the third fucking time, this time in a pointless fight

Oh. I ONLY have Dark Arisen though? Regardless, it's been a while, I'm not sure what class I was playing desu. Thanks for the tip on magic though.

>DmC2 no thanks
Way to prove him right retard.

How did I prove him right? He's saying I'm poor when I'm not.

>his human half was able to learn how foolish he was so that when he merged again he retained all that knowledge.
And his demon half learned that killing millions of people for their blood to create a demonic fruit and unlock a new powerup that brings back doppelganger is pretty fucking awesome, and he retained all that knowledge too.

Being a bit better than a random crappy ending you just made up still doesn't make it satisfying.

my only complain is he wears those ugly ass sandals

He's a pretty solid character, his fighting style is fresh and new, distant but you can feel the weight of his attacks. also summoning is a great thing

but if we need to talk about characters that we want back in the franchise, well..

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Yes Vergil is autistic, he's on the Power Spectrum.

Can we go back to coming up with stupid petty ways he'd try to beat Dante?

>Makes Dante impregnate Patty
>Has Nero beat up their kid

He feels unique, I like him

Oh Dark Arisen includes the original game too.

DMC2 deserves a complete remake treatment. It's such a horrible game.

Just attempted making a quick shop of Nero's DT with his normal hair if anyone's interested.

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Vergils about to be playable retard

Yes I think he is a good addition. Obviously should not be the main character but he was fun enough that I didn't mind when his missions came up and it kept things fresh.

Yea Forums.... can we trust him?

>imagine Trish getting pinned against a gray wall, that's the same color of her fucking boring bitch-ass character who imperonates moms becuase she's literally an unholy wretch with no dignity whatsoever, while at the same time the demon-whore who suckled Mundus' big red tri-balls and had so much piss-stained demon cum splurged all over her hair, it got dyed blond, is being fisted with pizza up her matrix-2000 black fetish pants ripped apart, so hard the term yeast infection gets a new meaning, and with her last whoreish, skanky, breaths she coughs up the crusty, hell-cum out her ps2-octagon mouth, leaving her dark soul unfilled, yet her ass stuffed to the brim

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He fucking steamrolls shit with his porkemanz. Wish he had more direct actions but he okay.
Motherfucker still makes me think of Kylo Ren.

No.

Hard to say really. It's kinda cool to play him after intense Dante's mission to just relax and play violin while your minions raping demons around you. He certanly do lack depth though, there's only as much you can do with two minion setups and he don't have any other options, just positioning of those two and some AoE attacks. Wish his cane was useful at least to some degree, it does pitiful damage and bounce so kinda useless. I didn't try him on DMD so I'm kinda interested on how it'll turn out.

Oooh, nice, thanks. Anyway, glad to hear it picks up. Maybe I'll try a simple warrior build when I boot it up again.

Not exactly. He'll jump in that direction and be uncontrollable for like a second. Side dodges are a fucking trap. Enemy step dodges are where it's at.

Lucia was pretty cool, on Dante’s route she’s sort of just there but on her own route she has a pretty solid character arc. Dual blades aren’t a weapon type we’ve had since DMC3 as well with Agni and Rudra, there’s a lot that could be done with a modern incarnation. Dante’s in hell seemingly for good now so she can just take Agni and Rudra if she wants, maybe combine elements from V into her move set and have her summon the two of them for long range attacks or call them back to have powered up melee moves?

It's okay to be poor user. You don't have to make up bullshit excuses. If you aren't poor, you're just trash.

nexusmods.com/devilmaycry5/mods/7
Here you go V fags

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That doesn't change my post at all.

He thanks Nero for helping him reform, are you dumb as fuck? That's why V has that evil little smirk when Nero agrees to bring him to Urizen.

Wish it did because it’s shit

The actual warrior class (unlocked once you reach the city) is really fun, it captures the feeling of swinging a big ass greatsword like Dark Souls does but in a different way. You can tell Miyazaki and Itsuno both love Berserk.

That was the case in DMC4 because Dante still existed and Nero had his story arc resolved with no actual reason to go demon hunting except to save people locally.
DMC5 does the changing of the guard much better even if the execution of the ending was wack.

I guarantee a huge chunk of it is indeed shitposting.

Sweet, they made Hank Hill playable

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I think they messed up just calling everything roots, they should have made a clearer distinction between the bulbous growths that appear near strong demons and just normal roots.

Instead of V we could have had a significantly better game.

Locking on to an enemy as V should firmly plant V to the ground, and the left stick controls Shadow. I couldn't count the number of fucking times I was frustrated by Shadow not running up to an enemy I was targeting, or messing up an input because I was wondering if I should press back on the control stick for V or for Shadow. I liked pretty much everything about V except for the way you control Panther, it just fucking sucks

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>his control scheme is a mess
Put summons on triggers.

THE PROBLEM IS HE TAKES MISSIONS AWAY FROM MORE FUN CHARACTERS
YOU FUCKING NIGGER
KEEP UP AND STOP CHERRYPICKING THE COMPLAINTS
FUCK

I mostly see people praising him.

Get to see his hank hill in the main menu too

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I liked V all the way until I got to DMD. It's still as fun as I had. But having to actually multitask with nightmare as well as jump off of him constantly to prevent my DT being insta drained is a nightmare.

Play any character in any mission mod is out
reddit.com/r/DevilMayCry/comments/azxjzn/mod_play_as_any_character_in_any_mission/


LAUGH AT THE CONSOLEKEKS

This.

This. I'd also say I liked playing as him as it wasn't too much but really don't care for it now that I am replaying the game

neo-Yea Forums has come to

>When you realize why V was so triggered by the Angelos
>When the summons sacrifice themselves to put an end to the nightmares
Being Nelo must have sucked, damn.

Imagine hating V and based Griffin.

I don't know why people just ignore that Urizen was just as much Vergil as V is. He's not V and will never be V, because he's a mixture of both V and Urizen.

That's why he's still a fucking asshole.

It’s true though

DELET THIS

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yes

Instead of you we could have had a significantly better poster.
V is fine, he’s fun and I’ll take him over Vergin, now fuck off

Sounds good. If V is in fact the basis of DD2's summoner class, I'm totally getting it and want to get to enjoy the first too.

I find funny how most people don't realize what the ending represents.
Dante being with Vergil in hell means that Vergil is not alone anymore, or abandoned, like he was after 3, and when his mother died.

>literally a better body than ladys
why did they do it?

He’s fun himself though

He actually doesn't look Hank Hill here.

V controls like fucking shit whereas DD1 controlled amazingly. If DD2 is using a scheme like V had I won't even play it.

There are some people who just make excuses for Vergil whatever he does like abused housewives. In DMC3 it was, "The city was evacuated he didn't kill anybody," in DMC4 it was, "He only ever sought power to protect his son," before 5 was released it was, "He ripped off Nero's arm to save him," and now it's, "V is a pretty good dude so Vergil must also be good." I don't know what it is about them. I like Vergil a lot as a character but there's no denying he's a complete cunt.

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Did they model the wingwong, or Lady/Trish's jubblies?

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I'm pissed that I can't play as the main character of the DMC series as much as I want to because some faggot poetry wielding loser needs to stand around watching his pokemon fight demons instead.
I hate using him so goddamn much.

>choosing a boring one note power autist with dumb hair over a poetry reading cute twink with a cool birb

lmao at ur existence

Vergil fanboys are almost as bad as Sephiroth fanboys.

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waist down down is 100% draw a girl and call it a guy

You play as Nero in this game too you seething fucking idiot

The birb, catto and goop boy all died though, and V himself is effectively dead since his own ‘intellect’ as an individual was destroyed upon becoming Vergil again.

He'd be boring if he weren't a bit of a cunt. They can keep deluding themselves, but reality will bite them in the ass eventually.

And you pretend that everything they showed don't exist.

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>birb
Of course perpetually underaged autistic retards are the one defending V.

He becomes boring if you play him for a long period of time, but fuck me if he isn't fun. Saturday I woke up thirsting for some V gameplay. Same thing for sunday and today.

If you know what you're doing and you're not overexposing yourself to his gameplay, he's fun as FUCK. His flow is a bit different from the usual DMC characters, but once you understand how to position your summons and learn to actively do shit, every fight with him is like painting on a blank canvas.

He also has the best taunts and the S-rank chorus is fucking amazing. If you're reading this Matt, tell Itsuno it wasn't a waste of time at all to add V in. Be proud of ureselves, I'm having a blast.

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That ass is fucking nice, not even going to lie.

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I'm loving V since I put Griffon on L2.

I like to taunt a little early just to get his laughing taunt

Mashing buttons isn't fun no matter what buttons they are.

V is still better than Vergil forever and always.

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Here's one now, right on cue. Watch as it pretends that V and V alone is the entirety of Vergil, as it speaks of how he's attained full redemption and atonement for his many great atrocities by being only slightly less of a dick than he used to be.

Only if we get to see him again

Sure you did, user. That's why you're playing it. Because you have principles, but really want to play it. For free. Come on.

I want to lick his cute little nipples and play with his ribs.

I actually quite like him, he really shines once you get more moves for him, if you blow through his segments without upgrading he is a pile of shit

Try making him bald next.

>muh meme character

he looks JUSTed, is that why they chose long hair?

tl:dr:
You have to be as smart as me to truly appreciate such a delicate character like V. Otherwise you might as well be a stick swinging cave man.
*tips fedora*

Yeah the bit with all the angelos with Nero talking about getting the band back together with him just say he must kill all evil that lurks was edgily hilarious to me, but at the same time, after figuring out what V is, I can sort of understand his reaction to that bit

Why do people want Virgil to be in fucking everything? He's not that interesting

Yes, for free. Are you mad?

autism

If I restart at checkpoint, do I lose my ranking

NERDS GET PUT IN LOCKERS

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>A character can't have both aspects otherwise is hurr he is evil durr one dimensional mentality

Your game and the joke of a character you call Vergil failed, Antoniades.

Don't do this. I like V but trying to hype up one character by shitting on the other is the type of argumentative skills best left to women and gamefaqs

>everyone who says something bad about Vergil is a Vfag

Fuck off.

Oh right, my bad. Nero existing means all of V's missions would go to Nero, right?
Fuck off idiot what I'm saying is now the gameplay is split 3 ways and while even though you only play 3 missions as V, there's still only 20 missions and several boss-only fight missions which really takes away from the opportunity to use Dante or Nero as much as regular players who have been following this series for decades want to.

This is DMC4 with Dante only getting 7 missions all over again and the fact you can't see this makes me really question if you've ever played a fucking DMC game.

You are and even pretending not to be in a thread specifically talking about V after trying to put down Vergil is rather duplicitous.

But you know what. You do you baby. You won't find any more posts from me.

>we should shoehorn muh favorite rival into every game because MEMBUH DMC3?
Enjoy your shadow the Hedgehog effect fuckfaces

He's okay but my issue is that he's fucking gone now, so it feels like a waste of a character slot for the franchise.

Who called him one-dimensional? I've called him a cunt. It's possible for a character to have depth and layers with good aspects and bad aspects and still, overall, be a cunt. No-one's saying he's evil durr one-dimensional you fanboy fucking retard.

>into every game
>is in 1
>is in 3
>spiritually is in 4 and later is in 4
>is in 5
>Nah he's not important enough to show up in every game
Laughing at you.

defend this V fags lmao

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Don't come back, shitter.

This series needs to learn how to pace its character variety.

Im fucking shocked and angry that you go back to being forced single characters after you get to selectable character missions

then why are you sperging about people talking about other aspects ? fuck off with your autism.

I'd say so. Even he isn't the most in-depth character he at least spices up the gameplay.

You guys think they'll update it so we can play any character on any mission? I don't see why they didn't do it at all

Vergil has the worst fans.

Probably. I see that coming. But by the time that happens I'll be playing too much bloody palace forever.

I like Babel II so I'm happy they made him playable if nothing else for that reason.

>is a glorified cameo in 1
>3 was just a cute backstory for that cameo
That's the characters entire existence. He doesn't fucking need to appear again. But of course MUH MAYMAYS forced him back and you will ALL hate him when he goes full Vegeta/Shadow/flanderized jobber benchsitter

Does this game go full "Nero's Game ft. Dante (and guest)" like 4 or do they pace the character variety more? Is Dante playable for more then 3 seconds this time?

>glorified cameo
You fight him 3 times, they beat you over the head that he's related to Dante, and he gives you Sparda for the few seconds it takes you to switch back to Yamato.

The entire series revolves around Sparda (who will be backstory forever), Vergil, and Dante. The storyline was only actually finished with 5 now that they've got a proper passing of the guard.

I wasn't sperging about people talking about other aspects, I was explaining that people will directly make excuses for the bad things Vergil's done (while providing examples of the most common excuses given). Saying, "the city was abandoned so Vergil dindu nuffin," isn't talking about other aspects of his character. Why are you so upset by this being pointed out that you have to jump in and start ranting about something completely unrelated? It's either because you're illiterate, or a blind fucking fanboy.

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>Yamato
Alastor

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That's called a cameo. Fucking phantom has more presence. Virgil is not essential to the story.

Will we ever get a real DMC Game with just Dante again? I'm sick of all these trash Itsuno OCs taking up the spotlight.

How is that a Cameo. A Cameo is DMC4 where he literally isn't important. The entire game revolves around Dantes legacy. Mundus who his pops fucked up, Trish who looks like his mom, Nelo Angelo which is his brother. And you're saying that this character with 3 encounters and more screen time has less story significance than a character that shows up and dies twice.

You serious?

>I was explaining that people will directly make excuses for the bad things Vergil's done

And I didn't said anything about that, you fucking idiot, why did you reply me ? stop sperging.

>Old Man Vergil
>tfw no 6 mission one-shot story

Enjoy seeing nico in every future game.

You faggots defending 5 disgust me.

Feels more like Dante's game but with a big Nero-shaped cockblock at the end.

I enjoyed playing as him and always picked him over Nero when those were my choices.

After looking up the EX provocations, I really hope if you do it at Vergil he joins in

Just got to play as him earlier today and while playing through the stage just seems mindless, during the boss I had no fucking idea of what I was doing.
I'm guessing I need to be close to it while slashing with Shadow?

How are people talking about playing as V against Goliath or Vergil? I'm on my second run but so far haven't noticed any expanded character choice options compared to the first time.

>only 20 missions
These missions are longer than in any Devil May Cry game, or at least that seems to me to be the case, and there’s plenty of opportunity for Nero and Dante considering V doesn’t have as many missions and there are missions where you can chose between characters, the other two aren’t starved for content you massive fucking baby. And I’ve played every DMC game

PC gaming has this thing called mods.

I hope you didn't buy the console version

I'm of mixed thoughts.
On one hand I am glad that he turned out to be a fun character to play as.
But on the other hand I really hate the trend in a lot of Japanese games to introduce new characters in the next game and focus on them before even touching characters from the last game that were barely touched upon.So while I like V I really would prefer if they give some of the old cast a turn at being one of the main playable cast before dumping in new ones.

I'd say he's pretty okay, but the only people that would choose to play as him over Dante or Nero are faggots and fujos.

So we're done with Nero right? His arm gimmicks are gone and he's got a generic devil trigger now which means he's got no room for a unique moveset

Dmc6 will go back to Dante right?

He should really get the cane and the demons as a weapon once he becomes playable.

Continuing on from this, what makes you think I or others didn’t want to play as V despite also waiting for 5 sperg

You replied to a post talking about that which started this entire conversation, follow the replies you cum-guzzling retard. That's where this whole tangent began and why we're even talking right now. If you don't have the basic decency to remember why you started talking in the first place then don't open your shit-eating mouth at all you worthless cancer fuck.

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Ah right, I see.

Bloody Palace, though, right?

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What are they going to do with Dante in the sequel? There’s nothing new to add to him either and if he gets changed and is not as good then everyone’s going to see it as a downgrade, so tell why the fuck it should go back to be focused on Dante and what’s going to be the excuse for a new game

He still uses breakers even after his arm regrew, just modified into gauntlets instead of replacing his whole forearm. I don't know how you could have missed that.

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Why do people act like this when it comes to Dante?
>Mario games can't start mario his story is over there's nothing left to do with him!
Like goddamn

I'm not really sure what you're getting at? You play as Nero first, who gets an expanded move set compared to the last game, and when you do play as V you're only given 4 missions.

Retards who started with DMC4 or something.
There's plenty of demons in hell, and all of earth to protect. There's a ton left to do with Dante if they really wanted to. Hell, even go back in time a little to pre-Mundus if you want to.

He's saying devs are spreading themselves thin for inexplicable reasons(it's the jews). V is "fun" if you think shit gameplay is fun but he takes away from what's actually good about the series.

I mean that Lady, Trish, Lucia, already established characters should've gotten the V treatment long before V ever got it.

>what's his playstyle?
Summoning swords but not in the style of Vergil/Gilgamesh. It should be more akin to Archer Emiya's Unlimited Blade Works.

They'll bring V back in a future game as his own person right bros?

I don't want him to just vanish he's too fucking corny and FUN

you just want to flick your bean to him you ugly fujoshit

V in Vergil's outfit would be peak performance.

Ah, I get it. I think what they wanted was to introduce play styles that weren't just in your face melee/gun and honestly I can't really fault them for that. Trish and Lady should have had post-game missions from Morrison though.

>V missions could've been more dante

fuck no he was a mistake

This is what bothers my booty the most. I would 100% be on board with V being playable if it meant more than 20 missions and Dante didn't get the short end of the stick. AGAIN.

He'll be back

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>everyone goes on and on about how Vergil is Nero's daddy
>Nero was an orphan in Fortuna and raised by the church
>Nero's real daddy is Credo+Some Priest
>Nero already killed the man who raised him in 4, yet he's supposed to be conflicted about killing a man who's he's literally never met in his life

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Credo was killed by the pope
And he clearly cared more about Dante than Vergil

How do you make the dualshock 4 work using steam shenanigans on this shit? It doesn't detect it for me.

we can only hope, hoping in Itsuno and the magic of fanservice

Did you buy the game?

Yeah

I couldn't get it working on my pirated copy, I wnated to enable turbofire to make playing V less aids. and to cheat a little bit with exceed.

Just use DS4 windows.

I don't get. I thought Itsuno loved this guy.

>easy mode game play
>""""DEEP""" quotes/poems
>looks like an emo faggot
>his voice and way of speech is very much what the edgy as fuck teenager thinks is cool.

No, he is not a good character and he makes me not want to play.

I just plugged it in and it works. I honestly only did just that.

Yeah
tfw wanna get slim and cosplay V

Itsuno should have trusted his instinct, V is garbage.

Yes because he's the beta test for the summoner class in Dragon's Dogma 2.

Just started the game and I noticed that there's a hidden taunt you can buy and it costs a ton.

Just yes or no because I have a gut feeling: Is that taunt the fucking DMC5 meme dance?

>you realize.....right?
Fuck off reddit.

No, Pat.

Nice Asscreed screencap

Although I did find odd how much he cared for Vergil, part of his frustration clearly came from having lost Credo in 4.

He's a nice change of pace, the game is pretty long so his sections break it up nicely without overstaying, and is SSStylish as fuck, I will never get tired of the classical music taunt

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>poetry is gay(?)
What's the confusion? Poetry is gay.

What? The style meter is not balanced at all for V making SSS rankings incredibly easy to obtain.

Family is family. Plus it wasn't like he wasn't conflicted about it, it took Kyrie assuring him that he'll make the right call that made him go for it

What's a good way to avoid Vergil's Judgement Cut End with Nero? It feels like I just have to take it everytime he does it.

jump

V is my favorite character to play as so that's gonna be a yes from me.

kys

It's more of a Dante's game than Nero's. Hard focus on "Sons of Sparda" in this one.

I like the idea and when you're doing things right it feels good but it's missing something. If he could actually get in and do something instead of just standing around.

>Well Yea Forums, did they make the right call in having him be a playable?

He's my least favorite to play, but yes, I think he's a solid addition.

>When you get that Ride of the Valkyrie's taunt

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i was hoping Vergil's would be The Darkslayer

You're not committing to the circle.

I pirated this game but I just can't fucking understand its appeal. Everything is a massive bullet sponge and the enemies are so fucking dumb. They just stand there while I keep "styling" on them killing braindead AI and it's just so repetitive and pointless. Is this shit just one of those ebin Yea Forumseme games or what?

You're too dumb. Go make a shitpost thread about it then forget the game exists so we can discuss it in peace.

Amazing counterpoint, fanboy.

He's what Goth Kids in Highschool wanted to be like except magic doesn't exist in real life.

You didn't make a point, you just described your personal experience.

>Everything is a massive bullet sponge
>he expected to kill enemies with guns
Fucking retard.

The good ol "I'm going to pretend this is my first post in the thread" shitpost

That's not what I meant you braindead imbecile.

Yeah, I did. The enemies literally don't do jack fucking shit, take aeons to die and so far the appeal seems to be styling on braindead AI for scores.

Seems like I've triggered the hugbox feefees.

so 90% of this shithole board?

Yes. I liked him, but in a more broad sense this means they're willing to take risks with entirely new playsets. Even if they don't make another character as radically different as V, it means we have more on the table in terms of what can be done for future entries. 4SE was a bit experimental with Lady's and Trish's movesets, just not to the same degree.
I also believe V's tech will be applied to DD2 or some other game later on.

You're right, the game is shit, is your opinion validated? Yes? Now leave.

What bullshit fucking damage reduction do enemies get when they DT on DMD? It seems like they suddenly start taking 1/10th what they did beforehand.

>p-please leave my hugbox waaaa
lmao what a mangina

i like V as a character alot, i dont like playing as him though

>Is this shit just one of those ebin Yea Forumseme games or what?
yes

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That's pretty normal. The whole point of DMD is that you have to kill those things fast

>when a full emo kiddo wannabe has better ass than you

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Does anyone remember the rumor or theory that spread around that V's tattoos had more meaning to them besides being the summons? They weren't touched on at all.

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You could always request a Kingdom Hearts situation for Devil May Cry.

After all, V was kinda like Vergil's Nobody or Vergil's Heartless.

Then we could see what Dante's Nobody or Dante's Heartless looks like.

Who the fuck is Nero?

I still hate having Nero as MC

he's alright but i wish it was vergil not V

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I suddenly realized how hot V would look in Vergils clothes

I'd rather not reference KH at all and use the, still somehow, less autistic terms human and demon side.

I think V is finally starting to click with me on SoS. juggling with shadow / griffon and leading it into hold moves is a lot of fun. I think what I never realized until this playthrough is how good the bird attack where it just flies at an enemy is, it's great for launching.

Capcom loves Ada Wong though

Resident Evil Motion Capture was better than Devil May Cry Motion Capture

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I haven't yet gotten anything below S With V, what hte fuck is wrong with you? I just held SSS for like two fucking minutes just mashing buttons.

I fucking hate this character.

How is The Government going to explain million dead humans.

They used Earthquake Excuse last time.

Now what?

SOMEBODY USE THE V FINISHER ON VERGIL WITH THE NUDE V MOD NOW bonus is vergil is nude too

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Why can't Vergil just go into space and build space colonies?

Dante becomes undercover College Professor in next DMC.

Lucia is his TA.

Patty attends Dante's lecture

>William Blake quotes
>hilarious personality
>Featherface bro
>DMC1 references
V is fucking great.

>multiple times during development Itsuno questioned whether or not it was worth making V be a playable charterer
source where?

No matter how fast I kill them, even with SS-SSS style, they always enter it at low HP. Every time.

>teamed up with an AI V for mission 7
>died almost instantly
Do they have the base amount of HP? That means they'll be useless on DMD

>Vergilfag
>can't even spell his name properly

Do the summons automatically return to me at the most inconvenient times or is it something that I'm doing that's forcing them to do so?

I think they only teleport back if you're not locking on or if you dodge in some way.

dodging backwards or double jumping recalls griffon
dodging sideways recalls shadow

double jump brings griffon back while side dodging brings shadow back

Learning how to style with shadow / griffon is fun.

There is not style.

I wish each character had a dedicated control scheme that i can change individually instead of using the same control scheme for everyone. i'd very much like to use other buttons to fire griffon without having to worry about changing shit back to play Nero and Dante.

>tfw suck ass at DMC
>tfw trying to beat Mission 12 Urizen on SoS without revives
>having to go through the "Do you want to revive here?" and "Are you sure?" every single time
Who thought the revive system was a good idea? Also why the fuck are gold orbs usable in anything other than human mode? I fucking hate that I literally have a "just use this to win lmao" staring me in the face everytime I die.

Yes and no, there's a lot of missing potential and a super gimped moveset compared to the other two and nobody would bat an eye if he was never playable, but as an experimental character he needed a game to come out in so they could refine that playstyle and make it better in a next game. Itsuno seems to actually listen to fans so I could see him even doing something for him in a special edition of the game.

I wouldn't go as far as to say it's comparable to an artistic masterpiece but it is good game design and eases in the new players. Nero teaches the basics, V teaches technique and patience and Dante brings it all together for the full DMC experience. Capcom deserves every shekel for this one, story aside.

thanks for the free S ranks itsuno san

V looks just like, am I handsome?

Absolutely.
Even if people dislike him. Making him playable and doing all the work related to that was a necessary experience to grow from. I actually really liked his play style still, but I think if they ever bring him back somehow or they translate his gameplay into something like dragons dogma, it will be even better than the current V we have.

You should probably stick to comedy, Dimitri.

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>Game has crashed one me twice on PC now

Oh god why

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I like it because I know I'm going to get easy SSS ranks.

I dunno, it happens randomly for me, too. Sometimes I'll boot up, play a bit, and then it'll crash near the end of a mission. Then I boot up again and can play for hours with zero issue.

Update your drivers if you haven't already. That fixed it for me.

V's great, genuine breath of life to the genre with properly developed strengths and weaknesses. Both Nero and V feel properly balanced in the game thanks to said weaknesses, unlike Dante who is essentially unstoppable so I find them more fun than him.

My only complaint, is that they should have given him a new devil summon through the story like Nero gets new devil breakers and Dante gets new devil arms.

I really want to see an entire game revolving around this type of character.

>Well Yea Forums, did they make the right call in having him be a playable?
Yeh. He's definitely not even half as fun to play as Dante or Nero, but I'd rather have a third character that feels different than just Dante/Nero again. Besides, I liked playing as him, and it made fight agains his pets cooler at the end

gold orbs work the same way in older devil may cry games and the way to avoid it was just not have any gold orbs on you but since you'll always have red orbs that shit will always pop up

Yep
Only downside is that he now has to find a replacement for him.

I agree. I've never played Chaos Legion, but apparently Capcom reused that idea of gameplay for V or something like that. I would also like him to have a 4th summon, perhaps on the B button when you're not riding Nightmare. I'm sure they didn't do it because all these summons are based on DMC1 bosses and DMC1 only had like 4 bosses excluding Mundus.

Weird, I'm 16 hours in and it didn't crash even once, I've been having constant problems with rendering delays and desynch in the voices, though.

thats actually cool as fuck

It's been this way since DMC3. DMC1 had Yellow orbs instead, where you would be revived from the last checkpoint before the boss, don't know about DMC2, DMC3 had both Yellow and Gold orbs that you could choose, and DMC4 is just like this, with the only difference being that you can't revive with red orbs.

>desynch in the voices
I disabled V-sync. It's not 100% fixed but it helped immensely.

Same thing happens to me, try restarting and randomly it'll stop desyncing after a few tries, test it by going to the gallery.

Oh, I'm gonna try that now, thanks, user!

>don't know about DMC2
Gold orb and only Gold Orb.

Gonna try that too, thanks!

Also use the denuvo free exe if you can, fixed a lot of the fps lag I was getting, and turn off DX12 in the ini (although that didn't help me one bit)

But you can do that

Can you? How?

Must be nice to have no taste for Blake's poetry and pretend it's overly pretentious on an imageboard.

what would D's hobby be?

While in game playing as V change his controls. Shouldnt change to anyone else

Kek sure you did. Keep lying, poor ass nigger

>Pretends to play games on an anonymous imageboard.

Kys kid.

Based and Vpilled

Why not remake 3 with modern graphics, then? DMC2's story has nothing going for it in comparison to 3, and even if capcom did completely fix it's gameplay, graphics and everything, we would still have to be fighting against "infested tank", "infested fucking CHOPPER" or those cockamimi named "bosses"

This one is more like, Dante and Nero having equal footing, with Nero leading the first half, Dante leading the second half, with V there to mix things up a tiny bit for both, although mixing things up more on Nero's half than Dante's half. But then Nero comes back near the end for a big finish in the final fight.

>being this mad over piracy
LOL

I love these posts that are so retarded that get the entire thread to shit on you kek
Begone

He's not wrong

Imagine if capcom made Nico a playable character and she was a melee brawler how you described. She'd have some unique devil breakers or some shit like that, one for each arm. Absolutely subarashii

Be "he's" you mean "I'm", right? lmao

I usually just rotate between hedgehog and the pin needle as Shadow with the occasional back triangle and while charging Griffin's specials, doesn't really matter which one as the bird. Also maintaining charge while maneuvering around with the basic jump is important.

I'd say it's close to 50/50, maybe a little more Dante than Nero, but you only get to play as Dante like around 35% through the game or so. Nero has some new shit, though, so he's more fun to play now. Of course Dante is still the best boy, tho.

Could someone theoretically do a hair swap with V's hair on Nero? That way we could have DMC4-ish Nero, that'd be kinda cool.

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Nice damage control

>I’m a man of principles!
>Now let me enjoy the fruits of others labours with contributing anything back myself
Why can’t you piratefags just admit your cheap and don’t wanna pay?

I wish I had more buttons to use for nero
There's exceed, gun, devil bringer, devil breaker
ideally I'd like to have the gun charging at all times, and I don't want to move exceed or devil bringer
The only thing I can think of is to move devil trigger to X and move the gun to left bumper.

Because there's more to it that that?

i got a pretty simple idea to make V better
...make him gesture more, like, more emotion in how he directs the summons, more wave swinging and more pointing and shit.

found the guy playing on Demon Hunter rank. Please refrain from posting until you beat the game and try to play as him on SoS difficulty.

Its literally the same shit on SoS.

PIN TO HIM WALL

The only difference in SoS is that there are some new enemies in areas.

The only difference in DMD is that you can actually die since enemies hit a lot harder.

Fuck off fag.

V is cute!

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DMD feels kinda easy so far, maybe it's because I'm still at like mission 6 but it's not like DMC3 where I got stuck on some bosses for an hour or more.
Feels disappointing in that regard desu, also I'm not using gold orbs

>people bitched nero chomped on dante's gameplay in 4
>what should we do to fix that?
>let's add a third character with even less gameplay than Lady
>Lady was shit according to fucking everyone but V gets a pass because le based le poetry man

literal homosexuals

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second earthquake. if people believed it happened the first time they'll believe another, surely.

Thats all true, but I think after 5 and merging back with V he's become more tempered. He's able to actually get along with Dante as a brother without going all crazy kill POWER bullshit

did you know that dante in his sin dt has an ability that can oneshot any enemy it also almost gives s rank sick skills bro

>V gets a pass
Which fucking websites do you get this from?

this fucking thread nigger, at the very least 40% of it is praising this shit character and it's unaceptable

Double nigger, most of Yea Forums and every other sites are not liking V because of his gameplay. I'm one of em.

why lie you idiot most sites are not its only Yea Forums that does

I don't like how Shadow is controlled.
Especially in that Elder Knight fight: faggot runs around the arena and you either let Shadow attack automatically or it will miss most attacks and be displaced.

I liked him a lot. Unlike previous Human characters, V can't do all the over the top shit without his familiars, so he has a lot of weight as he moves around that no one else really has. Despite his real identity and the shit he can pull off, he plays like a normal guy in an anime-esque world, and it grounds the setting in a satisfying way.

the nero missions were the only good parts of the game

>Lady is just watered down gunslinger
>V has actual unique mechanics

Guys I'm retarded, how do I switch between punch and kick modes with Balrog?

Back + Attack

Eh. Dante is already the crazy gun-person. Lady never gets to go far enough with it. I would've loved seeing Trish and Lady get fleshed out movesets with playable campaigns, but at least V is totally fresh. The problem with Trish and Lady is that they're too derivative. Right now, I'm just hoping for some playable missions for Vergil and the girls somewhere down the line. If Itsuno and company take their time doing it but give us something good, I'm down. Alternatively there's Bloody Palace. Mind you, I said 'hope,' but my hopes are virtually non-existent. It'd just be nice to have.

V would look so good in Vergil's clothes. I hope mods get rid of his dumb sandals. His design would be 70% better if they gave him boots.

>thinking Capcom gives a fuck about women in DMC

LMAO

>she was being so pushy about inviting him to her birthday party because of his promise
cute

I really wish we actually got to see Patty. I actually real enjoyed the DMC anime.

I see people complain that Dante doesn't fight too much or doesn't really do anything important but thats fine. Seeing Dante doing a bunch of small minor jobs is great.

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That's dumb as fuck and would never fly. The real reason is that he had already spent some time with Vergil's human side so he knew some of his vulnerabilities and struggles. At least that's how they should have sold it, but V is never mentioned after he dies because the writers suck.

Most people I've encountered in DMC threads aren't like that. The people who do post like that stand out like a sore thumb as the shitposters they are

>this games fucking sucks
>gay af emo edgy poetry boy
>wish i never pirated dumb niggers
>kys

All disregarded because they clearly have subhuman IQ and can't read the mood.

So much wasted potential with V. Do they even explain his tattoos at all in the game? I don't remember.

I'd rather V just be in the book somehow and they sprinkle some demon power on it and he comes back.

Adding more KH shit would just be unnecessary.

My biggest problem with V is we're supposed to believe this guy is what Vergil's human side would be like. And frankly, he just does not fit at all.

The ingame lore says they're used for the summons but thats about it.
Interestingly enough they disapear when he DTs.

Nightmare is probably made of that and whateevr he puts in his hair

>most people like V

Stay salty.

You're making me wish V was his own thing even more now. BINGOOOO

But then his feet would be sweaty, user...

Lady was focused around area control and direct damage. I think a mix of that and V's demonology would be an interesting experiment. Maintain V's 3 summons plus add some "spells" like an aoe slow trap and some direct damage lance spell shit. That adds a new directive for the PC to constantly balancing between direct participation, taunt-reading for trigger, and buffing his summons.

That's lame af. It's like they had all these cool ideas for V and just never did anything with them. This is why I wish he was his own character, they could have expanded and given cool new reasons for all of this. Instead he's just Vergil's Human half that most of the world an cast disregards for 90% of the game until he disappears and is never mentioned again.

well i guess he should just run around naked by that logic

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Feels bad.