Where were you when the madmen at Blizzard actually did it and released Classic WoW as it's supposed to be

That's literally what I said

That 2005-2006 wow is so different than 2008-2018 wow that all the players from 2008+ that are larping they want classic will realise its not the same game and they wasted literally a decade playing a easy mode simulation of what "true wow" was .

2005-2006 was hardcore as fuck soon soon wow fans will discover they have wasted years on boring easy shit with no consequences

You fuck up once in even a 5man in classic wow and 4hours can be wasted not even raids today have that failure cost

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>second worst race
>worst class

How can one man have such shit taste?

>BE are gone and the horde is pure again
FUCK YES

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youtube.com/watch?v=uvW-QTiZLQ0

time to get stomped on in wpvp

bfalets already seething
better buy a faction change to the new race to ease the pain

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Imagine being an anti classic shitposter and how anally ravaged they’ve been since November 2017.

>it will never happen
>y-you won’t like it
>enjoy having modern day crit calculations
>y-you’ll run out of stuff since they’re gonna release everything day one

Imagine.

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I played 2004-2006 but saying it was “hardcore as fuck” is hilarious to me
I played Ultima Online in 97 and EverQuest in 99
UO and EQ vets laughed about how casual WoW was
I can’t wait to see the current players shit themselves though, I agree with you there 100%

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WE ARE GOING HOME BROS

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What class should I start first, lads? I'm an alliance player and always roll human. Can't decide between

>warlock
>priest
>paladin

AЛЬЯHC CACATT

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How is EQ today? It apparently just got another expansion back in December.

Now that i look her tits i never understand how lewd she was
imagine a big minotaur cock between those tittes or goblins sucking them dry

Too bad EQ failed.

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warlock
if you don't mind slow solo leveling and enjoy healing more than dps, paladin

funny enough people mainly play their classic progression servers

>Alliance
>human

Roll the Uninstall Wizard.

>way its supposed to be
>drip feeding "classic" content

*laughs in OSRS*

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>pserver elitist with their BIS list and fucked up drop rates completely BTFO

Feels good.

Haven’t played in ages, sorry
They do have classic progression servers launching March 16th for the 20th anniversary
Starts at Classic, then Kunark releases some time later, then Velious, etc

I thought warlocks where so shit in pve, they where only there to buff the mages dps.

haha get a load of this guy, he plays redditscape.

To be fair the best thing is ZG is literally Phase 4. While Dire Maul is Phase 2. Sucks for Warlocks Dreadsteed quest though
It's going to be very healthy for the loot community.

>warlocks where so shit in pve,
>Warlocks always get a raid spot even over Mages
>Warlocks
>Shit in PVE

Thank fuck.

Dire Maul releasing in Phase 1 was a dumb as shit idea. It had way too many BiS items for clothies and in many cases better gear than MC

Can you give a quick rundown to a brainlet on what this change actually means?

they were, but classic will have 16 debuff slots so they will be a lot stronger due shadowpriest shadow damage buff and permanent 2 curse of elements and shadows. so they might even be better than mages in dps and you will always have 2 because of the curses and 4 in mc because of banish

It means there'll be more progression, and not just people skipping loads of shit because it's got inferior loot

You are thinking of TBC.

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>4 in mc because of banish
I never got this. We never banished anything in MC.

He's not, Locks had a ton of utility and did solid damage

Right, their utility was to make mages do more damage while doing shit dps on their own.

Classic Wow is gonna have the new characters models?

>Leveled to 60 on Nost
>Most fun I've had in an mmo since TBC
>Extremely hyped hyped for Classic after announcement
>Blizzcon 2018 / all the shit around Acti-Blizz happens
>The thought of giving those faggots any of my money makes me feel bad
What do I do bros? I really want to play Classic but I hate nu-Blizz with a passion

>Shit dps

That's just not true. They won't do the DPS of a fury warrior or rogue. But a lock will do solid DPS every time and have unlimited mana

well you either tank the adds or banish them, depending on your raid composition.

Warlocks balance is gonna be a few patches ahead than what it would have been back in vanilla. They were absolutely the worst, but then one of the best if not the best by the end of vanilla.

They’re staggering the major release patches in stages, just like it happened in 04-05
You’ll be able to progress through the content as it was originally released
Content will be meaningful and rewarding as you go, not skipping anything for better, later-released items
They’re actually recreating, as closely as possible, the experience of living through 2004-2006 WoW, month by month, patch by patch

Y'all really going to pay monthly for this old ass game?

This is my predicament. Classic WoW is my second favorite MMO and the only one I'm looking forward to reliving, but nuBlizz is such fucking cancer that I'm having a serious dilemma deciding whether or not to play. Also, I don't have as much free time as I did back when I was a teen playing vanilla.

>make warrior
>tank and be dungeon/raid lead whenever I want
>always get a spot when I dont want to lead
>will always get the plate in dungeons and raids

Ill get weapons just by doing dungeons and raids a lot.

I started playing in TBC, what's the Scourge Invasion? Is it like the pre-WotLK event?

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As vanilla progressed some content was added to help struggling guilds and players to "catch up". Basically it's easy good loot from some new dungeons that lets you skip some previous content. If it was available right away the progression would be a bit wonky, with the optimal path actually skipping over some of the content, but with the schedule the guilds trying for world firsts and stuff will have to progress through the content in the right order.

No.

reminder not to go horde to be threat capped 24/7 and doing significantly less dps than alliance. only thing mud hutters have is better aoe healing.

>OLD BAD
gb2/v/

players can get infected, turn into zombies, and infect other players

bunch of undead floating spires everywhere with mobs and shit pouring out of them. I think some are 60 elites in some under 60 areas. It was for Naxx.

It's more like legion prepatch invaison. Scourge appears in a zone and you farm them for drops and return that shit to Argent Dawn.

youtube.com/watch?v=unusjpGt8bY

We are on Yea Forums. Go to /vr/ if you want to pay for this shit.

Stop, for the love of god, cope posting retailfag. it's fine. you will play too and enjoy it. you don't need to fight it and cope

>we are on Yea Forums
that's the joke

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>playing on easy mode
No thanks.

>look like a generic retard for tiny dps
>look great with good pve and great pvp talents.

Imagine getting pallys and not shamans?

Classic team is small and top management don't give a fuck about them as it is considered low priority project.

That means they can take decision without retards from Activision jumping in. Of course if it's a huge success that will change.

The paywall is a necessary evil against third world retards, chinks and corruption.

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ActiBlizz has become pure Cancer, I agree
However, I’m not missing out on this while it’s apparently being done right
They could change course later and fuck this all up, but as of right now, the madmen are apparently doing everything better than anyone could have imagined
I can only tell you what I’m going to do, and that’s try it out at launch, and see for myself
If they fuck it all up I’ll just quit

Very hopeful, but they didn't say they were removing sharding, right click report, etc. so I'm going to assume it's still in.

yeah have fun sitting there wanding while your nigger tank takes his time to get ahead on threat, while we alliance chads are blasting away

Has anyone used the Darkmoon Card: Twisting Nether in Vanilla?
vanilla-twinhead.twinstar.cz/?item=19290
Does it proc all that much? I know it's says 10% but that means nothing to my brain

>implying I'm a dps nigger
I'll be sitting there pressing healing touch to get my literally free druid gear so I can face fuck you in PvP.
And once again
>playing on easy mode

>classic wow is like 10x as hard as dark souls
t. mouthbreather who wipes in MC standing in fire
i played Emerald Dream
i played Nostalrius
i played Elysium
i played Northdale
i will play Classic because i enjoy the game and want to play it on a final, secure environment while you flinge shit at your own face because you are a bitter cuck who has no videogame to play that is fun whenever you start it up, no matter how many times

If you just don't bother with anything else from the company, they can tell. If you're actually insanely bitter and just want Blizzard to die because they offended you, then yeah go ahead avoid everything they make. But otherwise? They'll be able to tell how many users they have that only play Classic and nothing else, and I imagine they'll be looking closely at that stat.

is lvl 60 worldpvp viable in retail? i heared there is lvlscaling now, maybe i should activate my sulfuras ret pally for doing some worldpvp

Phase 7:
Patch 2.4.3
Gruul's Lair
Magtheridon's Lair
Karazhan
Serpentshrine Cavern
Battle for Mount Hyjal
Tempest Keep

Phase 8:
Black Temple

Phase 9:
Quel'Danas
Magister's Terrace

Phase 10:
Sunwell Plateau
Scourge Invasion

Phase 11:
Patch 3.3.5a
Naxxramas
Eye of Eternity
Obsidian Sanctum
Vault of Archavon with just Archavon himself

Phase 12:
Ulduar
Emalon added to VoA

Phase 13:
Argent Tournament
Koralon added to VoA
Onyxia's Lair

Phase 14:
Icecrown Citadel and the associated dungeons
Toravon added to VoA

you described the pre wotlk event your inbred retard
god it makes me mad that classic will be full of redditors who were still shitting their diapers when vanilla wow was out and yet claim to be "experts" because they saw some mongoloid telling false facts about vanilla on youtube

>classic wow is like 10x as hard as dark souls
there is literally not a single boss mechanic in all of classic wow thats even remotely hard you retard.
classic is even easier than retail

Yup, I'm thinking we're going home, lads.

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what class has the most trolling potential?

triggered!!!!

there was a pre naxxramas event which was exactly like the pre wotlkt event you piece of shit go kys

You for got
>Karazhan Crypts, Uldum, Dalaran, Gilneas, Hyjal, Quel'Thalas, the Stormwind Vault, Grim Batol, the sealed gate in Blackrock Depths, Old Ironforge, Ironforge Airfield, Wetlands farm, Blackmaw Hold

>is fun allowed in retail
No

Mobs scale. Good job finding players of your level.

expansions are not classic fuck off. no changes. we want classic and nothing else.

>osrs
>reddit
>literally saw a guy yesterday spam "saying n word for 2m"
>he did it

OK

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pre naxx event didnt have infections wow.gamepedia.com/Scourge_Invasion

>region locked servers so less (or no) chinks gold farming every spot under the sun and whispering you to sell gold
>not having to deal with americlaps or russians
>server will actually stay up longer than a year and be reliable - no bought characters or instant 60s, or shady GMs giving their friends loot (looking at you Monkeynews)

Only things that stick out as bad so far is the sharding (but its understandable) and loot trading (which is a big fucking deal and underestimated). Spell batching and true progressive itemisation would be nice too

i remember doing openworldpvp a lot in ist of pandaria first it was hard to find people but outlands were a starting point and blasted lands

I'M ON MY WAY
(I'm on my way)
HOME SWEET HOME

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Classic wasn't hard, people just lacked knowledge at the time. With all the guides and wikis now available even Naxx is going to be a cakewalk when it releases.

Priest, specifically night elf priest for shadowmeld.
>mind control horde niggers off boats, off cliffs in Thousand Needles, into the lava in BRM

I used it all the time back on my warlock, which felt a little redundant given soulstones, but it made giving stones to others for raids feel better.

10% is probably accurate, but it certainly 'felt' like it triggered more often. Of course, you probably want to eventually get a trinket that betters stats and abilities, as opposed to 'maybe saves you if you die'.

Still fun, though. I remember once I died, soulstoned, died again and revived a second time thanks to that.

>wow.gamepedia.com/Scourge_Invasion
hmm i could have sworn that it was exactly the same.

Pay more attention next time you watch your favorite youtuber.

definitely priest, thanks to mind control, make people jump into lava and shit. Barring that, it's rogues, for the usual ganking and stalking.

>LFM BRD emp run - no one needs HoJ, and we have summons! - DPS last spot - P.S. No ret paladins allowed!

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youtube.com/watch?v=bTJNowPGmLI

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Will I enjoy this if I've been craving an MMO to get lost in and foster friendships in since Ragnarok? I'm tired of fetch-quest, boring korean shit and I've never played WoW in my life.

still got my argentum dawn tabard the one you only could have farmed for naxx

>I remember once I died, soulstoned, died again and revived a second time thanks to that.
Thats kind of what I want it for

what class should i roll on classic?

No it wasn't you fucking faggot, flying ziggurat things flew arround and you could farm useless sets that looke like Pala tier 2 by repelling them and their hordes of undead.

Difficult and time consumptive are not synonyms.

Post some good classic PvP videos
youtube.com/watch?v=SRXUTgrZOvM

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Tank - Warrior
Healer - Priest
Melee DPS - Rogue
Ranged DPS - Mage
If you wanted something else then why did you bother asking.

Ret palas weren't a thing per se anyway.

>mage
>good
>playing on easy mode
>good
lul

Haha, he said the n word? That is so epic, edgy and based!

youtube.com/watch?v=YvQoYMq8_Ng&

He made 2m more than you, beta nerd.

Yeah but then you have to play a warrior

Not paladin, unless you like looking at porn during combat to pass the time.

t. battleground-playing sissy

Did you play as a warrior without a healer by a chance?

Let’s assume that blizzard can be trusted to make competent content. Would Yea Forums support a content system like OSRS post the last phase of WoW classic?

>not running exclusively full guild group with perfect setup to farm specific items for specific people
never gonna make it

youtube.com/watch?v=1_OJNHjQ7o4

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Warrior.
The only class with two viable roles in PvE (barring the snowflake shadow priest after ZG) and the literal god of PvP if you are geared and have a priest slut healing/dispelling you.

>I'm tired of fetch-quest
booooooooooooooooooy are you in for a surprise lmao

>2005-2006 was hardcore as fuck
>Game that was marketed as mmo for housewives
Literally shows just how delusional wotlk kids are

youtube.com/watch?v=VXh_kZZ-GQo

I hadn't seen that, thanks OP. That's an incrdible announcement though, legitimately.

I thought they'd do what every private server does and just pretend that 1.12 was vanilla, but they're actually doing so much more than that, it's almost unbelievable. I honestly wonder what the reception will be like, people are so used to 1.12 they might really hate this sorta stuff, especially if it includes class changes like DC

God, I want to slap those Kirbies attached to her chest
POYO

WoW is the ultimate get lost and do nothing game while still playing and having a good time
Especially if you've got a nice active guild chat

Played Classic non-stop instead of going to college classes. You can get fucked.

>do you want to be good at tanking?
Roll warrior
>do you want to be good at melee DPS?
Roll rogue or warrior
>do you want to be good at ranged DPS?
Roll mage
>do you want to have average to low DPS but good utility?
Roll warlock or hunter
>do you want to be good at healing?
Roll any of the classes that can heal
>do you want to be demonstrably shit at everything in PvE?
Roll shadow priest, ret or prot Paladin, balance or feral druid, or enhancement or elemental shaman

Also hybridfags will kick and scream to try and prove their special snowflake spec is good, but don’t listen to them. They’re literal children.

>drip feeding content that you can play right now for free on private servers
I'm sure someone out there is excited for Classic, I just don't comprehend why.

It was just tedius as fuck compared to later expansions.

It's 1,12, so warrior or rogue
They are absolutely broken in this patch, rogue energy regen is bugged so it's much faster and that means he finally can be good dps
Warrior threat gen is wotlk levels braindead shit, and provoke doesn't reset aggro after it ends(in literally single patch, was fixed back in bc)

Wishful thinking and memes.

...

>willingly wanting to play on a chinese and russian infested server
i mean if you enjoy eating shit, wont stop you

Mhhmm sure, that's why Classic private servers have large and steady populations right? Cause people just go through all that trouble to download the client only to hate it and not play it anymore right? This while Classic movement didnt happen because of the MILLIONS of people asking for Vanilla, right?

>I thought they'd do what every private server does and just pretend that 1.12 was vanilla
Confirmed for not having any idea about what private servers do. Every significant vanilla private server has had progressive raid, dungeon, and raid boss releases that line up with how/when they were originally released. If you’re talking about class balance and itemization, blizzard didn’t say shit about either of those, so right now they’re about on par with private servers.

It's a shame that elemental shamans aren't viable. Shooting lightning and lava all day was my dream, one that didn't actually happen until WotLK

There is literally nothing wrong with bear tank as long as you put in the autistic amount of work required for the incredibly specific gear you need

The only thing that might save you from russians in classic is blizzard bothering to make an extra server just for them

imagine being shit eating retailfag

We're going home bros. What class is everyone rolling? Shaman here.

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Private servers also drip feed
The current largest server even sped up their content cycle so they can finish up before Classic comes out

oh my god you beat mc with slightly less stat points amaaaaaazing wowwwwwww beating 2004 content oh woooooooooooowwwwwww

you nu vanilla players are fucking fags man

>Confirmed for not having any idea about what private servers do. Every significant vanilla private server has had progressive raid, dungeon, and raid boss releases that line up with how/when they were originally released.
And how does it change fact that 1.12 wasn't vanilla and only wotlk kids consider it to be?
What classic server had progressive talent trees changes?
What classic server didn't had 1,12 bugged as fuck class balance from the start?
Of course wotlk kids like you think it's okay that there no need for raid to wait until enough sunders before dps starts, but this is what vanilla wow was about.

youtube.com/watch?v=Br1hXGXJ7Tg

can't wait

girls play on retail servers, not on private

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P I C K

YOURE

S T A R T E R

ZONES

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>What classic server had progressive talent trees changes?
>What classic server didn't had 1,12 bugged as fuck class balance from the start?
Once again, point me to where they said they’re going with progressive class balance.
I’ll wait.

Including Classic

them not mentioning sharding is very troublesome. it's gonna kill the game if left unchecked.

clips.twitch.tv/UnusualComfortableStrawberryKappa

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For me, it's Elwynn.

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>Not playing both

I've been enjoying osrs while waiting for classic

heal in raids, farm your damage set on the side, switch to pvp ele spec once you are geared and roast people in wpvp/bgs
with cooldowns and trinkets you can dish out 4-5k dmg in a single LB+insta chainlightning combo
literally pom pyro mage except with heals and armor

In terms of visual appeal:
Dun Morgoh > Mulgore > Ewlynn Forest > Teldrassil > Tirisfal Glades > Durotar

I'm assuming that people have posted this sentiment before, but as someone who played from beta through Legion I don't understand the hype for Classic. I just can't help but think that it'll be kinda hyped for a few months, then just drop off as everyone but the most dedicated quit.
The only reason I even remotely care about WoW nowadays is for the Goblin fanart anyhow, so really I think it's fine if Classic does well. I just don't think it will.

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Who the fuck runs a WoD private server?

what a dumb fucking image

Valley of Trials is the best.

Same people who run wotlk, vanilla, mop and cata servers
Not sure about wod, but others are very populated, but classic fags prefer to ignore that

Dun morgoh is maximum comfy. I always liked the aesthetic of mulgore too but the zone always seemed to be 100% bigger than what it was.

Thanks guys I'll probably go warrior seeing as you've all said they're good.

you and everyone else

Mulgore, always Mulgore.
Truly comfy, and will be the least populated.

>mongoloid who didn’t quit during wrath thinks his opinion on classic is worth anything
Like anyone would listen to a literal shit-eater

If Blizzard knew what the fuck they were doing they'd have servers for every expansion. They have no reason not to have backups for 2.4.3, 3.3.5a, and all the other final patches.

I used to watch this everyday as a kid
youtube.com/watch?v=_lOaGRk5vZ0

I mean, you did.

I think you'll be changing your tune after you realize how much fun mc actually is

Just keep in mind, them being good comes at a price. They’re by far the hardest class to level, and they’re also the most played class. This means that you’re not only gonna be competing for gear and a raid spot with faggot hybrids thinking they’re hot shit, and rogues, but also with the 3000 other warriors on your server.

Sh-shut up nerd!

>EQ failed
Profitable enough to still be getting expansions 20 years later.

>implying classic isn’t going to progress into AT LEAST wrath
LMAOing at anyone who thinks this isn’t 100% gonna happen

>REEE STOP HAVING FUN
yikes

Sale in the Blizzard Shop happening right now, goyim.

>If Blizzard knew what the fuck they were doing
But they don't
Even classic servers wouldn't have achievements and transmog transfer to retail, for no reason at all. They can keep saying "muh purity" but first it;'s 1.12 so already not vanilla, second they added loot fucking sharing in game where everyone can press need on everything

>faggot hybrids thinking they’re hot shit
says the braindead arms warrior

duhhh what do you mean you want me to do more than auto attack?

People consider Classic WoW to be a genuinely good game.
That's all there is to understand.

But classic isn't hard, modern wow is WAY harder in terms of shit you're required to do in a fight. 99% of vanilla is tank n spank.

Can't wait LMAOing at you retards when you get hyped for Wrath again.

>sharding
>still no statement on sharding
>no statement on pvp
>no statement on dm/zg farm

Dead on arrival.

>buy a boost beat in 1min a faggot who waste 2years trying to lvlup to 60
Cant wait

>arms warrior
>PvE
Thanks for confirming you don’t know shit. Back to retail, hybridcuck. I’m sure you can be a special snowflake in that game.

>They’re by far the hardest class to level,
Warrior being hard to level was fucking long time before 1.12, you fucking retarded wotlk kid
Why can't you even keep your memes straight
In 1.12, aka nostr servers you most likely played, warriors could even level with 2h weapon, hint when warrior was hard to level you could only level with fucking shield
Not go and drink some bleach, wotlk kid

>Literally all the statements are there.

No information on sharding.
No information on PvP.
No information regarding questionable farming like DM/ZG.

Where are the information regarding these three issues?

oh look a fury bandwagoner haven't seen a thousand of you before

put on a shield dipshit

user...

In your moms pussy now go get it.

>No information regarding questionable farming like DM/
God, wotlk kid is even more retarded then I thought
It was possible to farm dm in vanilla, but it was nothing like on bugged mangos servers like nostr, because mangos fucked up entire pack placement and no one ever bothered to fix it

I'm vaguely interested in Classic, but I'm not seriously considering it until I get answers about sharding. I think it's shocking how little they've talked about it.

>get 20 sec debuff
>ticks for 1.4k dmg
>average raid member has 3.5k hp

Not that guy but are talking about the same DM farm? I thought he meant killing Warpwood or whatever.

Goldshire...Home.

can't wait to gank newfags over and over until they quit :)

Blizzard has always been a bunch of assholes who don't tell you shit

Oh hey, it’s again.
They made warriors easiER to level in 1.12, but that doesn’t change the fact that they died way more often compared to other classes, and thus, were objectively harder.
Come back when you take a few English classes, europoor.

I remember 4 horsemen being difficult just because of how convoluted it was.

Guides certainly help, but you still gotta herd guys into positions and to do the right thing.

>classic
>hard
The only hard parts prior to BWL were ‘tard wrangling 40 people and making them show up on time with the requisite gear and consumables.

So when do you think the pvp system will be added in? Because they said they aren't sure yet.

>paladin
>worst class
t.butthurt no shoes rogue that got reckbombed

Did Blizzard Unjust themselves like pic related?

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Good luck I'm behind a spider pet and several concussive shots!

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>why yes I main balance druid how did you know?

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>They made warriors easiER to level in 1.12
But 1.12 didn't had warrior changes except aggro and taunt bugs?
How exactly did it made them easier, wotlk kid?
Of course if you weren't nostr shitter you would know that this change came earlier
Also
>1,12 warrior
>guy who could pull and kill 3 mobs at once hutner/warlock style
>died way more often compared to other classes
Holy shit
Warrior was most popular class on your shitty private server because it was one of easiest to level

>y-your spec is bad because more people play it! Having less DPS than the tank means you’re special!!!
P.S. I am the tank, nigger

>power infusion holy fire priest crits

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>and consumables.
you didnt even need the consumables for the most part. It was just getting them to fucking not kill the raid that was hard.

We did MC with 15-20 people during AQ times, just because we could and it was fun competing within the guild, because MC surely wasn't.
Half of Vanilla was gearchecks with auxillery grinds like nature resistance for Princess Huruh, H-Huhura... Wasp Whore
There where proper hard fights like Cthun and 4 Horsemen but compared to even half of the shit in BC they where incredibly simple.
Not gonna lie though, I never saw Saphiron die.

Because your character is worthless

Were Oomkin's even good at PvP?

>power infusion starshards w/ ToEP

Too bad they fixed the coeff.

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Meh

They were a joke and only deviant tier rainbow fursona furries and LOL so random xD faggots would play them, so even worse than the usual Druid.

might as well pvp as resto

youtube.com/watch?v=K0siYUjV9UM

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they're very good at spamming moonfire and entangling roots to be a pain in the ass but you're better off going for the moonglow resto spec than going full moonkin

>guy who could pull and kill 3 mobs at once hutner/warlock style
Yeah once every 30 minutes, and then had to eat for a minute afterward. And if any of those mobs did spell damage it was gg. And if a single other mob came in at any point it was gg. And if you pull more than one mob while retaliate is on cd or you don’t have 50+ rage for SS + WW you either died or had to reset the pull. And if another player came made eye contact with you it was gg. Also don’t forget having to waste time healing between every single mob pull. We didn’t have victory rush like you WoDkids had.

I wish I saw Yea Forums during the Vanilla times, I even remember being in Alterac valley with the now gone /f/ archive Megaloop thingy on but I didn't know at that time there actually was an imageboard that's actually the fucking site.

Where were you when Dark Portal took you home?
youtube.com/watch?v=1vrEljMfXYo

Soul and healthstones and summoning meant that you’d get at least one slot, and they had meteoric dps increases during Ahn Quiraj/Naxx, so there’s a good incentive to keep them around.
Plus there’s the fact that meta reading fags will probably avoid them, so there’s less competition.

so what is planned after all content is released and the same raids over and over again will get boring as fuck? advancing to world of warcraft bc? or will there be server progression resets ever so often

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>Soul and healthstones and summoning meant that you’d get at least one slot, and they had meteoric dps increases during Ahn Quiraj/Naxx, so there’s a good incentive to keep them around.
don't you realize you're the meta fag?

Priest 19 LFG DM

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>They made warriors easiER to level in 1.12
Just give me Tclap in D stance and fuck right off, warrior leveling sucked until Enrgaed Regeneration was introduced.

There’s a reason there were a ton of warriors in the playerbase - because people would make one thinking they’d be gods at 60, and then got tired of dying over and over again to mobs 2 levels above them, and rerolled an easier class. The majority of warriors on private server polls are characters that didn’t get past level 30.

I can't wait to powerlevel through it and gank newbies on Redridge

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we are gonna do it druid bros

anyone here played beta for classic back in the days? you can remember the feel sitting in the dark with your bros sharing one account?

vertical content progression is kind of out of the question because naxx gear is completely insane how good it is

>mfw WoW reaches 15m concurrent subs

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>Karazhan Crypts, Uldum, Dalaran, Gilneas, Hyjal, Quel'Thalas, the Stormwind Vault, Grim Batol, the sealed gate in Blackrock Depths, Old Ironforge, Ironforge Airfield, Wetlands farm, Blackmaw Hold

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I wish they kept warriors being able to charge in combat from the beta. That didn't come back for several expansions.

It was already spiraling out of control at the end of AQ40 honestly. With MoM and other shit from Naxx it just became fucking stupid.

Real MEN play Ultima Online user

i had an 85 drainy priest, i deleted him because one day i realised my character had a fucking tail. rerolled human female, objectively superior

>mfw retailfags will be in denial for millennia to come

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>mfw arenanet relaunch GW1 freshstart with slowly released expansions
based activision saving the mmo genre

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didnt speak english back then and we tried to figure out quests while eating chips and drinking ice tea. we spend weeks like this even just watching the others play was the shit. man those feels will never come back. one week we were all alone home and our friend got 50 euro for one week so we ordered for exactly 50 euro from a chinese restaurant in one night. the rest of the week we would just eat bread with cheese. the feeling of the undiscovered...

>want to play shadowpriest
>but Undead is objectively superior
fuck

WoW was never good.

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CHOOSE YOUR RACE/CLASS COMBO, BROS

For me? It's Human Paladin.

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not sure how the two are mutually exclusive...

Dun Morogh all day wee laddie

Gnome Warlock.

I want to play Alliance

Knowing your strengths doesn't equate to choosing characters solely for them.

Tauren Druid

Human Warlock.

oh
then you gotta want to roll another class
i'm starting undead priest, then human mage for the erp

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>$225mil a month going directly to modern Blizzard
Video games are saved!

youtube.com/watch?v=DUA1B3A1ZnY

get ready for the best Stormwind theme

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a lot of people, myself included, will mantain sub with the token bought with gold from retail

Still insanely divided between human warrior and Tauren warrior. I’ve played both multiple times and still can’t decide.

YES, you can toggle between old and new
also they added new quests to fit with the chronicles books and modern wow

I played an MMO once. It got butchered. Raped. PISSED on. Many years later, they bring back the "classic" version of it, because the only ones left playing was Chinese gold bots, and even they were dwindling with no one to sell to. But in an instant, the game's dead population was revived. People who hadn't played for years and years were coming back! I was OVERJOYED man. That first moment, stepping back through the time machine? Pure magic. And everyone was feeling it lads.

I hope you guys get that.

But you know there's no happy ending to any of this, don't you

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>can't decide between human warrior or pally
fuck. i like warrior playstyle but pally has best armor and lore

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Nobody fucking plays current WoW

paladins are one of the best classes though. best buffs in the game and really great heals.

Reminder if you play the following after level 40 you WILL be playing:

Any tanking: Warrior
Priest: Holy
Hunter: MM
Shaman: Enhancement
Paladin: Holy
Rogue: lol
Mage: Frost
Druid: Feral

or your group request whispers will get the response "lol" and you won't be doing shit

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>company makes good decision
>get rewarded with money
>maintains and builds off good decision
>gets more money
>this is a bad thing.

Well it’s really a difference of whether you wanna tank/dps or be someone’s heal bitch. Also paladins ignore all of tier 1 and most of tier 2

paladins can do pretty much everything warriors can do plus you wont feel like killing yourself leveling

>join group
>hey user btw this and that are reserved for our guild leader

So what are their plans after the phases? Move on to TBC and start over? Then what happens after that? Move to Wotlk and repeat until you end up on BFA Classic? I don't get the longterm plan here. I get it for private servers because they constantly wipe peoples characters and start all over but doing that for retail Classic seems like it would cause a ton of salt.

>Running Strathholme
>Suddenly when Rivendare opens up someone makes it Master Looter
Sigh

youtube.com/watch?v=n4TyqYsC26g

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>get to instance
>play normally for a few minutes
>ninja pull
>leave
9/10 groups disintegrate at this point.

It isn’t hard, WoW is a lot harder today than it was back then. Vanilla is just tedious and boring.

>tfw dwarf rogue
youtube.com/watch?v=_r5xq53zkug

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Maintaining "good decisions" is how WoW got to where it is now

Can't decide between human mage or warlock. They're both really fun I just can't pick between high mobility glass cannon that's perfect for 1vX world pvp or zero mobility bullshit tank caster that's somewhat less perfect for 1vX world pvp. Leaning warlock just because it's so much more fun to level.

>no wall jumping

>paladins can do pretty much everything warriors can do
And by “pretty much,” you mean “not even close to,” right? Unless you plan on running nothing but BRD and Dire Maul for 2 years straight, you’re incredibly wrong.
I’m honestly in awe at the delusion of palacucks

Maybe in singleplay PVE and it takes half an hour per mob.
Have you actually played Vanilla? Before Wrath they sucked balls at anything but healing, even their tanking was a joke nobody in their right mind would use till later BC.

larping retailfag detected

Are enchantments going to be level restricted? When battlegrounds first came out everyone built "twink" characters which were super powerful level 19 characters with end game level buffs on their gear. It was also broken as heck in CTF because nobody had mounts and anyone who had a traveling form would be untouchable with the flag.

No it isn't.
Decisions during and after Wrath are quite objectively not good.

go warlock and spend the rest of your life raiding

>wow is like 10x as hard as dark souls
10*0 = 0

Reminder that the magic will be gone because you're not in high school playing with your friends anymore.

No changes you mong. Only the biggest faggots cry about twinks.

Troll priest

They cant be trusted to keep making good decisions you fucking idiot

Goddamn people in these threads are fucking morons

this guy is so fucking based
youtube.com/watch?v=EXohOZslOec

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coping retailfag detected

Twinks only became truly unbearable when the TBC armour enhancements came out.

Enchantments are certainly a thing for 19 twink PvP, especially weapon enchants, but the more useful tool is being outfitted in full blues, or having the proper weapon.

paladins can tank dungeons just fine, most guilds already have a dedicated tank for raids good luck getting in as a dps warrior compared to paladins which always have a spot

>what is aoe farming with consecration

Nigger I stopped playing WoW after Cata and never looked back.

If you want to cry about hypotheticals just say so.

youtube.com/watch?v=JWo3nMaLzCI

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just dont play lvl 19 pvp

i hope you no changes retards are meming yourselves

Without Mongoose, twinks aren't that bad.

absolutely based

If you want to be delusional and pretend Blizzard can do no wrong just say so

>people can’t enjoy older games anymore

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1.12 talents & endless tweaks still make it easy mode WoW, each patch progressively made it easier, nerfing bosses, mobs, adding in better loot, buffing talents etc, even patch 1.4 in early 05 was basically "We made WoW easier & we are giving you better drops"

Still this isn't too bad, step in the right direction

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The latest news is an objectively good decision that came from listening to feedback.
Feel free to masturbate in the corner, but don't be surprised when nobody cares.

They should've started with the first vanilla patch and progressed exactly like they did back then. These phases and starting us with the 1.12 classes can eat a dick

user stop it the feel is too much

Paladins are good in Classic. Yeah they don't have Crusader Strike but Holy is the best PvP healer in the game and Prot is a disgusting PvP spec.

Yeah they have a spot healing and only healing - fury and prot warriors beat paladins by a country mile in the other two roles. And if you’re skilled and dedicated enough, you can get a raid spot no problem. Though that’s pretty alien to you, isn’t it?

It's gonna be easy no matter what. Modern WoW bosses throw out more mechanics in 10 seconds than entire vanilla raids

When did Blizzard become so Horde-biased?

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>Yeah they don't have Crusader Strike
THEY DID IN THE BETA, GIVE IT BACK

>Ion Hazzikostas Answers About Classic Sharding
youtube.com/watch?v=Q-GobXQTf6w

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>Let’s assume that blizzard can be trusted to make competent content
lets assume drumpf isnt a racist orange cheeto sexist nazi while we're at it

When have they ever not been outside of Wrath and MoP?

The art of the alliance zones is way better than the horde ones, though. Boralus shits all over Dazar'alor

After BC when activison REALLY took over and some older people left the company
Wolk was good because they didn't cower yet but Cata beyond is all activision

reeeeee

around mists when every raider rerolled troll because they had stupid op racials

I agree, but that would be way more work than lazy ass blizzard would commit to. I mean think about it,
>implementing literally thousands of tweaks to classes, only to remove and replace the majority of them after only weeks
They would never do that.

FFXIV is a better MMO, get fucked WoWbabbies

reminder that horde is full of r*dditors and sjws

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Horde was incredibly shafted in vanilla because they were worked on second. There were entire quest chains in vanilla for horde that simply ended out of nowhere because they weren't finished in time for release and had to add them in later.

The fuck are you talking about? During Mists was still when everyone was Human because EMFH wasn't changed until Legion.

you can get in raids or any party just for existing as a paladin and by the time youre "skilled and dedicated enough" the paladin would already be decked out in full raid bis gear

So they're limiting item drops based on patch, but what about the stats? Lots and lots of items changed stats throughout the patch progression, are they doing that, or just putting 1.12 itemization on everything? Wouldn't mind that desu, progressive itemization is kinda cancer

>MMO
>city is split into 3 sections with loading screens
>every zone takes a loading screen to get to

Game is shit. They didn't even try.

Wotlk was only half good. Naxx and ToC were shit raids.10 man raiding was in hidsigh an awful idea they took way to far. LFG was created cause they couldnt merge shit realms with other shit realms.

>LFG was created cause they couldnt merge shit realms with other shit realms.
They COULD, but they choose not to because to them, if they do so then it's a sign that the game is dying. Even though Wrath was when WoW had the largest number of subs ever.

Dun Morogh, playing only at night time

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Didn't LFG only work within your own realm in Wrath and the crossrealm aspect of it was added in a later expansion?

Ulduar was the tipping point when WoW started to become shit. MoP almost got back there with Throne of Thunder, but after that it's just a nose dive into the garbage. I feel bad for anyone who skipped MoP because it was the only glimmer of modern WoW actually being good.

Human Paladin or Orc Warrior?

Basically, would I have more fun with the easiest class in the game or the hardest class in the game?

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lf1m dps emp runs
>rogue: inv
sorry full
>war: ill go
sorry full
>hunter: me
sorry full
>rogue: u need rogue?
no
>warrior: hoj res?
lol
>mage: ill go
sure, accept inv
>hoj drops
>get it because the group is me tanking as a war, a priest healer, 1 mage and 2 warlocks

>warrior
>hard

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>you can get in raids or any party just for existing as a paladin
Yeah, raids that wipe on Lucifron over and over again. Any raid leader with half a brain will fill with 4-5 holy paladins to get blessings, which isn’t hard at all.
>by the time youre "skilled and dedicated enough" the paladin would already be decked out in full raid bis gear
No, he would either be
a.) forced to heal because the guild recruited a new fury warrior
b.) still in pre raid gear because he has to wait behind all the other melee DPS, as well as new recruits because turnover rates are high in 40 man raiding guilds
or
c.) straight up kicked off the raid team for being dead weight

No doubt. But they fucked the long term health of this game in order to avoid the idea that they had opened too many servers 4 years earlier.

I wonder if they will make the same mistake again. WIth classic, open too many servers and people just transfer to high pop servers over time leaving basically dead servers to languish.

>Truly comfy, and will be the least populated.
they're all going to be equally populated because theyre going to phase everyone and make it inorganic as fuck at the start
baka

If you made the group I don't see a problem

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youtube.com/watch?v=0ETu1xWpWLM
I cant BELIEVE these changes this is an OUTRAGE

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The leveling aspect is, at least in terms of sheer tedium. You can't gauge everything by how you are at 60 because first you have to get to 60.

youtube.com/watch?v=iz-RmSG2s1k

Warrior is very hard to get going unless you already have a guild. There are a ton of people who think that they'll get guaranteed spots just because they're tanks, when a good 95% of guilds are founded by their tanks or have their tanks already. You only start to pull weight as far as getting raid spots in guilds is concerned when you've already gotten geared to the teeth and your guild implodes.

>wahh wahh sharding!!!

because having 500 people all fighting over the same quest mobs is so much better, right?

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Hell yeah. No fury, rogue, or meme spec is getting anywhere near my HoJ and Ironfoe. Being a tank bull rules.

>class is hard because they level slow

m8

warrior leveling is literally just autoattack and heroic strike from 1-40, and then autoattack and mortal strike from 40-60

"""""hard"""""

You have to keep in mind that when vanilla launched, the pop cap for servers was much smaller than today. It actually was necesary back then to have 100 servers. They just never wanted to addess the elephant in the room after pop caps were increased due to server upgrades.

God Tier:
>Dun Morough
>Mulgore
>Tirisfal
>Teldrassil
High Tier:
>Elwynn
Mid Tier:
>Durotar

kino

youtube.com/watch?v=2z29Rk8814w

LFG worked went into your battle group during the ICC days. It was nice for those dead servers who had 0 tanks but in the long run it killed the game.
I hear good things about ToT but mop was too far gone for me so i never got to experince the game at that point. If there were progression servers i would want to say though mop this time just to see ToT. Though im not a fan of the Thunderforge or the silly gear reforging it had.

exactly, which is why people who cry about reserving items are the biggest faggots in the game
>buhHHHHH what do you mean i cant just join your group you set up and are tanking for and are leading in and setting the pace in and take your item you need that you created this group specifically to get??? that isnt fair!!
make your own group then, retard

yes thats how I want it
>that one quest where you have to collect shit in dorf starting area for some gnome
>people start forming lines
>ninja it

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Every time I see a rogue with Ironfoe I laugh at the idea of the warrior who tanked that run getting absolutely fucking cucked.

Accurate

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I do remember the pop caps were kept low and raised over time.In the end they took the absolute WORST way to fix the problem. Even looking at it now they still wave there hands with pic related

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Pretty interesting. Gonna be hard dividing my time between this and Eve.

>Tank druid pre-raiding 60
>Running BRD with a warrior and rogue
>HoJ drops
>Roll and win it
>Next week respec Resto for raiding and never touch Feral again

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If you fight more than 1 enemy that's orange, you'll die
If a mage/warlock/hunter/basically anything but a rogue decides to roll up near you, you die
If you have subpar gear and are fighting anything other than your own level or lower, you die.

At least that was my experience in private servers.

Everyone playing eve seriously just bots during the grind anyway. You can't outrice the Chinese.

>its hard because you can die with no way to avoid it
That's not hard, it's just tedious.

You need more potions and stance dancing
He's not wrong and you're being disingenuous.

youtube.com/watch?v=2ekLO8BwxwE

Sounds about right. If you don't keep up with weapon progression as a warrior while leveling you get absolutely fucked.

>use anything
>smotts hammer
>corpsemaker
>bonebiter if youre rushing to 60, otherwise get ww axe before it
>executioners cleaver or stoneslayer
>dreadforge retaliator or massacre sword

everyone playing wow seriously bots too, especially in classic. the grinding for mats and quests are incredibly tedious.

youtube.com/watch?v=ctVrpQ-orss

All of the numbers will still be completely incorrect and all abilities, talents, and mechanics will still be 1.12.

>not picking mulgore

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blizzard actually has server side data to reference, unlike chink servers

If it's fun, I wil play.
Simple as that

The thing is until you get Whirlwind, slow weapons don't mean as much because their power is in instant attacks, of which the warrior has none until WW. And that's not until level 36, which is a long way away for warriors.

>All of the numbers will still be completely incorrect
Why? They're the ones who actually have that data instead of having to second-guess it

>I want everything to be like vanilla
>Except the icky parts =(
Also sharding fucking kills outdoor PvP

Holy paladins are just as good as Holy priests in terms of healing output, on top of that they have great buffs. you NEED paladins. like 5 holy paladins in a raid.

Being an alliance warlock is a death sentence, go mage.

Geared paladins have:
>Best single target heals
>Most efficient mana usage out of all the healers

Non-geared paladins still have:
>Good buffs and auras
>Raid and party-saving cooldowns
>A reset button (divine intervention)
>Good AoE tanking ability for trash

What you mean buy "was shit in classic" is
>I can't DPS or tank like a warrior
When what you should be thinking is
>Paladin is the best PvE and PvP healer in WoW

what if the warrior already had it?

I don't understand how anyone with nostalgia for this game can also actually look forward to playing it again. Christ, I felt like I barely had enough time for WoW back when I was in highschool. Now I have a job, other interests/games, and women to bang frequently - where is this time meant to come from? Out of my ass? Because I can't do it, Activision! I can't pull the time out of my ass!

dont be the fucking retard spamming flash of light in pvp because some braindead theorycrafter says its the best efficient healing spell

Classic WoW was (will?) not be hard, it's just slower than retail WoW.
The only thing that classic will have is people getting bored of playing their mains for weeks and months on end and rerolling only to be bored with that and quitting for a while.

Except you could just bloodrage -> cancel to get out of combat anytime and charge in combat.

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>8 hours a week for raiding
>set aside 2 hours a week for farming
10 hours a week is nothing, people watch more netflix a week.

They fixed that by 1.12.

Could've been a druid. Or, you know, was a decent human being who didn't declare DPS doesn't deserve a fair shot at getting the item.

Well what happened was there was a demonic invasion sites or something and an event at the dark portal which rewarded a tabard

>When what you should be thinking is
>Paladin is the best PvE and PvP healer in WoW
Keep that secret to yourself

I already have a guild. So I'm not worried about getting spots or some gay shit like that, things will be taken care of at 60. Just wondering what I want to enjoy while getting there.

>Keep that secret to yourself
? Explain

Evidence that you could this? Or is this just people mistaking a private server bug for an actual mechanic?

Sorry, but this isn't one of your private servers with massively increased spawn rates that make lining a thing. When mobs have 3-5 min spawn rates and you have 1000 people in the same zone, there will be no lines, because the 100th guy in line would have to wait several hours for the spawn.

Stop spreading misinformation you fucking cunt. Sharding is only for beginner zones for the first week or so. They have said this many times get fucked.

That's once your character is levelled, geared and raiding; i.e. all the hard stuff. To get to that point it will quite literally take weeks. In game time.

It's in swifty's pvp tricks video which was recorded after aq40 and before naxx

>Horde
Mulgore

>Alliance
Teldrassil

>Vanilla WoW
>Bunch of dudes with blue gear with no addons
>Spend most of fight chatting and clicking mouse
>Kills Ragnaros and have a great time
>everyone is happy

>Private servers
>40 people full of BIS / epics with all boss addons
>Use only ""viable"" specs with copy pasted talent trees
>wipe to Ragnaros
>FUCK YOU GUYS EVERYONE WHO DON'T HAVE BIS IS KICKED FROM THE RAID

yeah, paladins are a no-no before tbc.

Takes 5-7 days /played to get to 60. It's not like that matters though because you can level at your own pace, it doesn't matter if it takes you 4 months to get to 60 and pre-raid bis as long as you actually get there.

paladin is the best pvp healer in the game as well as the best single target healer you cunt

cringe. what kind of drooling retard finds this garbage entertaining or funny?

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Id rather have more people thinking that ret is viable than understanding how just flat broken Holy was at support.

if a guild sucks but demands everyone uses bis everything then they aren't worth playing with desu. Hopefully classic brings more chill guilds :)

>BRE on the first kill ever
based

How do you deal with Mages whose only purpose in BGs is to CS you when Holy Shock is on cooldown? Can't fake cast everything.

if youre in a guild that doesn't require the most out of its raiders and are lenient when it comes to performance, you won't go beyond aq40, that's a fact

Moderately interesting. A shame they're sticking to low server caps making the world feel empty.

You know what's funny? This marketing strategy that blizzard played is actually genius, they released a very shitty expansion and then when they let the subs drop they hyped up their classic server as a plan to keep subs going.
They could have released classic years ago but they want to keep retards addicted.

I would be surprised if there werent some mid tier guilds doing content. Especially early on everyone is going to have a guild the weak hands are going to shake out in BWL for sure though.

I've played an alliance warlock before, the wotf factor is severely overblown.

daily reminder:
>the community won't be the one you remember
>chat/player interaction is not the same after social media
>you forgot the 85% time of complete deadtime because you were a kid
>most adults, if not you, have no time for that shit now, and will quit immediately
>sharding
>skill balance is still arbitrary
>all of your friends are dead
>you know almost everything about the game already, as will everyone once they get filtered out of level 20, you will be playing with angry reddit efficiency-bots who have no interest in writing in chat, pretty much like current wow silent bots except good at the game not bad
>they will pull off something store-related to profit off of right after launch, it's new blizzard, and no they cannot go back to being good, all the good guys quit, it is done, period
>there will be an insane disastrous bug somewhere given that the beta they plan to have is gonna be small, and remember, they are working on re-applying every table, every skill, every mechanic - something big will happen and it will ruin the progress and experience

See you a month after classic when you switch your vanilla cap for a tbc one and begin whining daily for servers.

Do you have to pay a monthly sub?

Teldrassil without any doubt

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I remember logging onto my older brother's account.
I can't do that any more. The account is gone now.
And so is my brother.

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>>you forgot the 85% time of complete deadtime because you were a kid
oh no i won't be able to complete 10 dungeons a night
piss off mate before we shove ya head

They can be killed and countered for sure but most people are probably going to attack the War unless you have a group that knows how to play against pallies.

Why go for the war? Cuase most people are too stupid to stop the pally.

But that's how vanilla raiding already was.
In what shit guilds were all you carebears that you didn't look up every possible piece of info, copied talentrees specs and installed all the necessary mods?
Only thing not the case was that item level autism that apparently is so rampant these days, though you still wouldn't get spots for higher tiers if you didn't have a good amount of stuff from the former ones.

Every fucking group on northdale goes like this:

>tank
>healer
>3 hybrid DPS with no CC(usually under leveled)

The tank is constantly chainpulling when the casters/healer are out of mana, the mage is either chinese or russian and doesn't know he can sheep and the DPS don't even give the tank 1 second to get aggro

Wrath heroics ruined the playerbase more than anything

Rent free

C'thun entry was like getting into a bathtub with cold balls, except you have 20 balls and none of them are allowed to touch

I think it's just tied in with a WoW subscription

I would not mind this if everything was scaled for level 60.

You won't even make it past Razorgore.

yes, later BRs

>he thinks classic's audience is retail players

Imagine being this stupid.

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Night Elf Druid

are they bringing barrens chat back?

>every Yea Forums classic thread is filled with twitch emotes and redditspeak
This is your community for today.

ok retard

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>LF raiding guild just dinged 60
>heh we're on tier 25 in sunwell plateau u can't join us

>Being so insecure that you make a group in order to guarantee you loot ironfoe
Can't handle bants?

I meant guilds not doing this you flimsy faggot.

No, they actually removed chat from just the Barrens.

fuck, I bet Obama did this

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>nurageface

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sorry fucker

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If you are a:
>ret paladin
>sub rogue
>shadow priest
>fury/armswar
See ya. In the ignore list you go.

Move Battle for mount hyjal to Phase 8 as they had about the same gear level

What wrong with Fury? Only annoying part about them was rolling for my rouge trinkets.

It will unironically be, and that's precisely why classic will be a shit epxerience.
Retail has no content, the loud minority bitching in forums about features is not the big chuk of MMO players. It is the megacasuals who will stick around not knowing anything at all about shit and ruining anything cooperative they join.

If you actually think classic will have a bubble userbase of its own, get ready for some major butthurt. Oh, and enjoy the chat swarmed by reddit speak.

So its going to turn out exactly like Yea Forums has ?

>Still no release date just 'summer'(which is probably going to be pushed back lets be honest)
>Still no beta or another stress test
>fucking with content release for the only reason of 'we feel raid progression would be better this way'(which is a legitimate excuse but lets be real here, it is to milk us for months more time and sub money)
>sharding still confirmed instead of fixing their god damn servers so you can have more then 50 people in an area without the area instance blowing up
>newest post admits they dont know how they want to handle pvp and will most likly put in the bfa system instead of just leaving it the fuck alone

Please tell me Im not the only one worried bros. I want to go home as much as the rest of you, but why would i want to go back home when a hobo has moved in since i was gone and pissed on every surface possible

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Hate to disappoint you sweetie but zoomers aren't going to play this.

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How can a poorfag build a PC in time for classic? My craptop from 2014 ran the legion beta alright but it’s not gonna work for raiding

Good. The people that still play retail are not the people I want to play classic with

>building a PC for a game from 2004

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>play on private server
>there’s a guild lead by a roastie and a bunch of ex-retailfags
>they’re the laughingstock of the entire server because they’re notoriously awful
>don’t have a raid leader
>just have 5 retailfags (including the roastie) shouting out what they think are the mechanics
>barely clear molten core
>never clear BWL
>break up after wiping on Gehennas
>GEHENNAS
I can’t wait for classic to be infested with retards like this. They’re more entertaining than raiding itself.

Classic WoW was literally praised for how it was more causal and less punishing to play than its competitors when it released you pretending zoomer.

>new pc for classic
nani!?

>Every warrior has to be a tank
Sorry but most warriors will be DPS actually with a tanking offset. Very few will be main tanks and they will still have a DPS offset. In a raid environ you don't actually need too many tanks except for obviously that one boss fight in Naxx.

>needing a new PC for WoW vanilla
Are you holding your current one together with prayer, incense and technosorcery, or something?

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>panda avatar
like clockwork

i just want to be in a comfy guild with at least one jokester in ventrilo that makes everyone laugh

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Gehennas, what are his mechanics?
Fire, get out of the fire, Curse, remove the curse, and his adds will wreck the offtanks if they aren't killed fast enough, i.e. same mechanics you've been experiencing since Scarlet Monastery?

>How much will WoW Classic cost?
As for cost, Blizzard has said that this server option will be free as long as you have a subscription for the current game, which costs $15 a month.

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We already know the release date.
Not relevant yet.
Those two are not mutually exclusive.
Sharding is about server population and being able to level, not about stability.
It's about the contents and reward, not about the system.

Very low iq post.

Human warlock, of course.

Sounds a bit like a guild I was in except we actually got shit done (cleared MC and ZG and working towards BWL). The guild fell apart due to behind the scenes shenanigans, clique faggotry in the leadership, and accusations of guild bank thievery.

In reality I think what actually happened was that there was one tight clique in the guild that wanted the leadership gone for some reason (the reason had to do with an officer insulting a healer's GF I think -- who since broke up with him apparently) and spread a rumour that caused everything to fall apart (guild bank thievery). Mistakenly I left with this clique. I should have stayed.

Magnificent on Elysium Darrowshire / Light's Hope Lightbringer btw. The guild tried to patch it up by merging with another guild but it was dogshit and I have no fucking idea what happened afterwards because I ditched my 750+ hour prot warr project and said fuck this I'm out.

Vanilla WoW is srs bzns.

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4H is doable with 4T, but the strat is harder and your melee are going to have crap uptime since each horseman is constantly moving.
Tanks swap when they cross over.
At least it's piss easy for the range and healers since they can literally sit on their asses.

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Its not vanilla, therefore its crap.

>vocal minority
Keep your delusion up, makes the disappointment all the sweeter.

i started with bfa and dropped the game in january and moved onto ff14. hated bfa because it all boiled down to grind and farm and buy re-rolls until you finally get that bis. running the same dungeons over and over and over and over for gear and then nothing else matters. world content is terrible. rep farming is terrible.

i really enjoy 14 because of the story but also character progression. it feels as though there's purpose. will i get that out of classic wow?

lol good riddance you futa-loving fagadin. literally the most cancerous thing to happen to the game behind belfs was adding that futagoat race and making paladins viable.

>That post
>That sig
>That assumption

Tauren Druid, I'd love to replay a shaman but my memories of doing the totem quests don't need replacing

>We already know the release date.
Really? What is it then?('Summer' can be anything from now till the end of august, this is not a date)
>Not relevant yet.
Extremely relevant considering the last test was a fucking mess AND it revealed what they missed and attempted to change
>Those two are not mutually exclusive.
How fucking slow do you have to be. The more they break up releases the longer people stay subbed. Having already admitted they dont have a time scheduled for those later chunks is their way of saying they will hold onto it untill subs drop again then release it after
>Sharding is about server population and being able to level, not about stability.
Oh yes because leveling in current day is so amazing with sharding and never seeing another human being, just what i want in classic and just like how it was in vanilla. Oh wait, no it wasnt you fucking retail shit. I remember seeing players every minute and every location while i was leveling back in '05. I remember waiting in line, a literal fucking line, to kill quest mobs like the chillmaw above the ram farm in dun morogh. I remember seeing roads full of players and the smaller city quest hubs full as well. You were never alone. Sharding is used to make the server load easier to handle and create a lag free environment, which also means a player free environment, fuck that.
>It's about the contents and reward, not about the system.
They are the same fucking thing you idiot. Content and rewards are based around systems put in place to disperse content and rewards. Replacing honor points and badges with the fucking retarded random progression system that is in retail will be a disaster if that is what they do. How fucking hard is it to leave things as they were, thats what we want.

>will i get that out of classic wow?
You will get it out of doing group content yes. Questing? No, no one enjoys questing, it is a fucking ball ache.

night elf hunter

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Did you just imply that rogues, druids, paladins and priests had more than one spec? Did you actually play vanilla or are you just memeing?

the same complaints you had with current wow will be waiting for you once you reach 70 in ffxiv

Just reminding y'all niggas to play the class and spec you find the most fun, because you'll be fine for the majority of the game no matter what the raidloggers tell you.

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rouges could go assassin or combat just fine, with ass winning on dumb tank and spank fights.

>Want to play warrior
>Everyone is saying I'm going to eat shit the whole leveling process

Any tips?

youre trying way too hard faggot.

Yes, do whatever you feel like to have fun.

Enjoy never getting past Magmadar

Almost all of them were shit for leveling so don't worrie.

How bad is leveling a disc priest in vanilla? I didn't get a hard on for healing until WotLC

You're aiming your advice at the wrong audience.
The people you're talking to are so crippled by anxiety that if a raidlogger criticises them, they'll be self-conscious for the next 16 hours and won't have any fun. Even the -thought- of being criticised is terrifying to these faggots.

Protection is a noob trap. You can tank dungeons easily with any spec until 60

as bad as shadow
wand for days
it's slow but self-sufficient as you can keep pulling unlike warriors

Priest levelling questing mainly consists of throwing up a PW:S and a PW:P and wanding the enemy to death, so do whatever you like

Level first aid

Not too bad. Remember wand spec tho.

People will notice that you didn't pick up +15% threat. ... Well actually they probably won't, people are retards and half the ret paladins you group will will have righteous fury on for some reason. Never mind.

Practically unkillable but boring as fuck.

Leveling does suck ass as warrior unless you have friends and a guild to back you up, in which case roll whatever you want and enjoy.

If you dont have either of those handy then you have two options untill the later patches. Roll arms and suffer untill you get your whirlwind ax, or roll prot and whore yourself out in the cities for dungeon runs.

The first method is extremely slow for the first 30ish levels but picks up after that. The second method depends on a number of things such as how good of a tank you are, how populated your server is, and how good of a salesmen you are.

You don't play as a priest, you play as a wand. Get wand specialisation first and always look for the next wand upgrade, they're one of the best levelling classes if you know where to look for your next upgrade, they're really underrated.

do you guys even roll a troll mage or priest when Undeads exist?

Yeah, okay, no. Thanks for proving my point. I also like how you conveniently ignored the others I brought up.

>half the ret paladins you group will will have righteous fury on for some reason
Another person who didn't play vanilla.

I don't think I've ever even seen a ret pally in vanilla. They were all holy

I do because I hate the Tim Burton starting zone and prefer how armour looks on trolls

Min Maxers will

Ret pallys, in VANILLA, were the highest DPS class in the game due to a bug in SoCr. It was patched. This isn't vanilla that Blizz is releasing.

Minmaxers pick UD

All you need to do as a leveling tank is make sure people hit the right targets and taunt where necessary. Even if something gets loose, nothing at lower levels does enough damage to cause any immediate concern.

I distinctly remember there being fucking retard dpsadins with that +threat buff active.

trolls are cooler than undead and they have better racials

You're about to get a massive influx of Retardins that have grown up jacking off so hard to the MUH LIGHT meme any only playing Ret that they'll swarm the forums in such numbers screeching about people laughing at their unviable spec that it'll be the first and only hybrid spec fixed in Vanilla. Retail Paladin players are that autistic, look at the big debate over Zandalaridins.

stupid question: I have to buy bfa to play classic? When they release a new expansion I have to buy it to keep playing classic?

This is one of the few things thats been confirmed so far. You do NOT need to buy any expansions. All you need is an active subscription to get access to classic.

yeah dude, witch doctor/shadow hunter style ftw

You only need to have an active sub to be able to play Classic.

No you just need an active sub.

they are literally 7 years late

It's a lot more common than you think.

Someone post the "say goodbye to your transmogs and pets, all of them" image.

lol keep coping cringelord, this is the only shit from vanilla I don't miss

What does a picture from Cata have to do with what you said

>tfw you missed a Classic thread

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orc or ud lock

orc

That wasn't vanilla, that was nost.

Orc if you want to pvp hard and fucking hate Rogues
UD if you want to be useful in pve

Since when? I through they picked trolls for zerking?

new thread?

...

>What is it then?
July 16th.
>Extremely relevant
There are still 4 months left. You'll get a beta in a month, maybe two.
>How fucking slow do you have to be. The more they break up releases the longer people stay subbed.
?
Everyone wants progressive content. It also keeps people subbed for longer. It's a win/win
>sharding
Blizzard has stated that sharding is due to population concerns. There will still be a bunch of people around, but not too many. If there was no sharding, the first days would be essentially unplayable. The game can't support 1000 people in a starting zone with 3-5 min respawn times as is. It's not "there will just be some competition for mobs". It's literally "on average you can expect to kill one mob every 10 minutes". This isn't comparable to vanilla launch for a couple of reason, which I, and a bunch of other people, have explained here before. I can't be bothered to type it all again, but if you search for 'sharding population' in the archives, you'll find explanations.

>They are the same fucking thing you idiot.
No. System is about how the honor system itself works, and how you earn the rewards. This isn't what blizzard is thinking about. What they are thinking about when they should be introducing what. Should honor system be in the game at release? Should BGs come at the same time as the honor system? What should the itemization of the rewards be (they were changed in a patch)?

Some boss fights use fear and WotF = more dps uptime.

priest here

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>MUH LIGHT
No but seriously, why are non-holy paladins so autistic? Are they so attached to their banana-wearing yellow faggotry that they can’t just pick a different class if they want to do a certain role? Think about it, they’d rather make 39 other people carry them than adjust to the game. And all because MUH LIGHT.

For priest maybe due to devouring plague

If dealing with densely populated starting zones is so hard, then how come a bunch of penniless Slavs running a server out of their basement could support a 10k+ pop launch?

Play Horde, it's what sensible self-respecting people do anyway

Because private servers use non-blizzlike dynamic spawns, where mobs respawn instantly. It's a garbage solution, much worse than sharding. I'll quote myself

> Dynamic respawns come with several issues that have been witnessed on private servers that implemented them. It changes the leveling and grinding dynamics. The respawn rates required for a massive population are so high that it becomes optimal to simply stay in the same spot and kill the respawns over and over again. You get aoe grinding parties that aoe down the same camp and 20 seconds after they respawn, repeat it again. Quests that require you to gather objects function in a similar way. You simply stand in one spot and gather the same node instead of trying to search for more. A similar thing can apply to gathering nodes.

>Not only that, but if the areas used to determine the dynamic respawn rate isn’t very specific to areas, it can result in unnecessarily high respawn rates in locations with only a few players. Say there are 3 players in a cave but a few dozen outside, and the same respawn rate is used for both areas. The people in the cave are forced to deal with constant respawns when there aren’t many people in there. Here are some video examples
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Rogue, warrior, paladin or shaman I just don't know. Maybe priest. Certainly not hunter, mage or warlock though -- too boring.

dwarf:
best warrior/pally/rogue due to stoneskin
best hunter because gun skill and stoneskin
best preist because fearward
motherfucking treasurefind

Why would anyone on the ally side roll anything other then a dwarf for pve if given the option?

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Modern WoW is better

Because weapon skill is OP

DON'T BULLY PENNIE YOU FUCK IT ISN'T HER FAULT HER BROTHER GOT HER ADDICTED TO DRUGS AND DICK

Since discussion is still lively, let's continue it.
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No gun is slow enough for a hunter to use to max dps.
You want a weapon with a speed slow enough to do an aimed shot between normal auto shot cooldowns. That's 3.00 or higher, ideally higher because it's hard to time with 3.00.

Best PvP and PvE race for rogue and pala is human btw. You're just wrong on most things, priest is right though.

>best pally due to stoneskin
Dude you have a fucking pala spell for that lmao

>No but seriously, why are non-holy paladins so autistic?
/pol/acks who want to turn everything into a le epic crusade against niggers and kikes

Adding to this user's lesson.
They could solve this problem by making a bunch of servers, but then most of them would be dead a couple months after launch once the initial hype dies out. They could merge the servers, but people would be really unhappy with that, too. I really don't like sharding, but it's almost a necessary evil.

The best rogue is dwarf. Stoneskin is literally a guaranteed win against other rogues because they cant 100-0 you.

In BC, not vanilla or original WoW.

end it too user

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>get blinded by a rogue in wsg
>be not dwarf
>have to pop bubble in order to get out of it
>be dwarf
>use stoneskin
>got out of blind and now have bubble for anything else, including another inevitable prep blind
>be human
>use perception against a rogue or a druid
>doesnt actually work reliably because it's just a shit spell and wont detect someone unless youre facing them

...Righteous Fury existed in vanilla... pleb