Why can't they make a normal console?

>not SNES
these nibbas are unrelevant since 80s

You mean a pre-built PC with shit specs?

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Why would they want to make an inferior PC? At least gimmicks give Nintendo a reason to exist.

Nintendo is a progressive company.
They appeals to the outcasts, the ones left behind, the ones shunned from society.
And that's why their console cannot conform to social biases either.

And you think the Switch is reasonably priced? That's quite the joke.
For what it is, its price is quite steep.

>a normal console for Fifa/CoD an censored games
Yeah. Nah, thanks.

Sega does what nintendont

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The Switch is probably the closest thing you'll ever get to a "normal" console. Take advantage of it while you can. It's a great system.

why can't you be a normal person and stop playing videogames at the age of 20 fucking years? you are TWENTY, grow up for fuck's sake, BE A MAN

>Lance Armstrong vs. Hank Hill

NO I WILL NEVER GROW UP FUCK SOCIETY

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Because if you want that garbage you already have the PS4 and the Xbox.

>Stop having a hobby.
You stop whatever you do for enjoyment and fun first.

But it wasn't a normal console : It came more than 1 year after the ps2 and had garbage mini discs;

It's a handheld not a home console
>muh hdmi port
Even my tablet has a fucking hdmi port.

I agree, it's so good to play video game of the x360 era in 300p, 15fps.
Oh, sorry i forgot about Zelda and its amazing open world filled with 3 npcs.

Every time there's been three or more normal consoles on the market, all but two of them suffered hard.

The Switch is pretty normal, playing on TV or handheld is p. kewl. It reminds me of my Gameboy Player for Gamecube.

PS1 had less compressed textures and better framerates, all it lost on was poly count

>everyone talks about Nintendo being the only systems that aren't glorified PCs
>but they're always the first to be cracked emulator-wise

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staying in the console market ?

Because you’d just bitch about that too.

>better framerates
that's not thanks to hardware, you'd know that if you knew what you were talking about.

they know they can't compete.

If you have no job.

You mean build a proper PC with no good exclusives for the past 10+ years?

Nintendo knows how to keep costs down and profits. Selling shitty hardware with great software is their niche. If they made a powerful system they'd have to negotiate exclusives which costs money or make first party games more frequently. Compare that to the current system where they drip feed first party games and are shored up by Indie games and 3rd parties who bow to the pressure of massive fan demand for Switch ports or can't deny how well similar titles have done on the Switch

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Nintendo knows their studios couldn't handle the upgrade. Just look at Pokemon Sword and Shield and Fire Emblem Three Houses.

Yeah don't know what they were thinking with the mini discs. I remember at the time everyone thought it was an underpowered console just because of the mini discs even though it was more powerful than the PS2.

You seem to be pretty salty about them though.

Because making AAA games is absurdly expensive and Nintendo can sell just as much on lesser graphics.

Well that's just not true at all. Nintendo doesn't focus on graphics in pretty much any of their games, but that doesn't mean they're incapable of it.

Graphics really aren't that difficult unless you're really trying to push the boundaries of what's possible. It's a lot harder to get gameplay right than it is graphics.

guess i got to stop watching movies and shows if that’s the case, i’m sorry Hulu i have to cancel my subscription since im 20 years old so i cant have fun anymore

People like you are the reason why every fucking game is brown and grey, rehash of a rehash. Stfu and don't buy it.

>It's a lot harder to get gameplay right than it is graphics.
and it just so happens that IS and GF can't get that part right either

Yeah, I'm pretty sure all the girls (like my sister and gf) that will buy a switch for animal crossing and gen 8 pokemon are social outcasts.

Define normal.

They started as a toy-related company, they've always made toys. Microsoft is fucking microsoft and Sony is a high-end technological company.

Pokemon has always been shit my dude except for the original Gameboy games. It's a game for children and most people only play one or two gens before moving on except for autists. As for Fire Emblem I wouldn't know I haven't looked into it. Not really a fan.

>Pokemon has always been shit my dude
> except for the original Gameboy games
On a techincal level, Red, Blue, Green and Yellow are inferior since some of the games mechanics straight out doesn't work or does the complete opposite of what they are supposed to do.

They chose the "innovative" route and got stuck with it.

They can’t financially compete by making a console that they have to take a loss on and make up the difference through software sales. They’ve implied it a few times in interviews, but Nintendo as a games company alone can’t compete with the Sony and Microsoft Gamining Divisions that are supported by multi-billion dollar companies.

Nintendo makes hardware that is a gen behind and reaps the benefits of having cheaper platforms while still creating new experiences for that hardware.

Why can't your parents make a normal child?

>be me
>19
>suddenly my 20th birthday
>the police breaks into my house
>sorry you are 20 you cannot play games anymore
>proceeds to take my eletronics and videogames

I hate living in america

To give it more of a perspective:
bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_glitches_in_Generation_I#Evolutionary_stone_bypassing

That doesn't take away from them being really great games for their time. I'm sure Pokemon Sword and Shield would be fucking awesome if they came out 20 years ago but they didn't.

Godforbid we have a company constantly pushing the envelope and trying new things. Much better for the industry to stagnate.

They can compete if they merge all of their franchises into one console like they're doing with the switch. They just dont wanna give up on that handheld market.

Because it would instantly fail and tank the company.

>Godforbid we have a company constantly pushing the envelope and trying new things.
What's innovative about another Nintendo handheld?

It's also a home console now.

Not really.

Tbh, No one here can provide you with a good answer.

Why do you think it would fail? Seems to me the more gimmicky the console the worse it does with the exception of the Wii. They just got really lucky with that one.

The Switch is kind of gimmicky if you think of it as a weak console but really it's just a very powerful handheld and it's doing quite well.

the answer is money or economics. They've found a way to profit whilst providing a lesser product so why would they stop

He can't understand how Nintendo sold nearly 40 million Switch's in just two years.

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I think it is more about everything being the same all the time. You start the game, pick starters, go to gyms, do the elite four and today you do online battles.
Silver, Gold and Crystal showed how well done compression can create a huge world map. They also fixed most of the issues from the previous generation. So I agree that Silver, Gold and Crystal are some of the most well made games on the GB/C.
I've studied it and how it was built and it still baffles me.

They can compete with other divisions if those divisions were on there own. Nintendo as a company is so much smaller than the whole of Sony and Microsoft. Those other two can afford to waste billions in marketing, poor first party titles (namely Microsoft there), and essentially run at a loss for the parent company. The parent company just picked up the difference and keeps going. Nintendo’s consoles must make money for Nintendo as nintendo has no other source of income outside of their video game products.

"normal" consoles are pointless because PCs exist.

The real question is why are they so retarded they can't make an F-Zero game again?
>miyamoto can't figure out gimmicks or ways to make the series better
>too fucking stupid to see the gimmick and way to make the series better is to focus on making the multiplayer mode better by allowing massive races with loads of people at once both online and offline
Also the game would sell like hotcakes now a days, because nintendofags are 100% more attached to the company and will buy up literally anything as long as nintendo slaps their name on it.

>all it lost on was poly count
That wasn't everything it lost on.

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Labo has already outsold the entire F-Zero franchise.

>it's physically impossible to play and enjoy games unless they're exclusive to my system
this is your brain on console war cancer

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Nobody bows to pressure of fan demand you absolute retard, companies release games on the switch because it makes them money, that's it.

Nintendo doesn't make "realistic" looking games, so they don't gain anything by selling a shitty custom PC like how Sony and MS do.

They would be if console exclusives were not a thing.

Imagine being so much braindead that you're defending a trillion dollar corporation and their bad decisions. Fanboys are the worst.

Because the hardware arms race is a horrible and pointless exercise that only succeeds in making video games more difficult and expensive to produce.

Consider this: During the 6th gen, Nintendo was the only game machine manufacturer that was making money, despite being outsold bu Sony.

>no good exclusives for the past 10+ years?

PC has the only good exclusives outside of Nintendo. I don't play AAA games anymore for the most part because they're all shit. There's never a shortage of good games to play on PC, if I only had a console I would never play video games.

Who are you talking about?

>Console exclusives
You might as well post the list of shitty second hand weeb games, SJW shit and Bloodborne. I'm enjoying my UNKEKED copy of DMCV

I agree with this. When the PS4 came out it was nothing and ports and remasters from PS3 for a very long time because development times are so long now. And even now years later there's still basically nothing worth playing as far as AAA western games.

a few points:

1) tv/wall tethered home consoles are done for in Japan, handhelds and mobile is king there and has been since the DS days.

2) last 2 times Nintendo made powerful home consoles (n64&GC) they didn’t sell well at all compared to the competition.

3) Nintendo handhelds have always dominated the handheld market and keep up with console sales numbers. DS sold 154 million only a million off from PS2. 3DS sold almost as much as PS3.

going for a handheld that can plug into a tv was the right move for Nintendo.

Why would they? There still using 360 hardware with the PS5 on the way and making bank. Idiots countinue to be idiots and if they can sell while making a profit that’s good. If there was a true demand they would’ve gritted there teeth and upgraded.

>PS1 was more powerful

Bull fucking shit, that crap was barely better than saturn barebones 3d support and a pain to dev and lack ton of proper features.

If wasn't Nintendo cheaping out on hardware n64 could really run shit like pc version of quake without big issues. Only reason that devs and publishers flooded it is because it was cheaper than pay for carts.

If switch2 has thunderbolt they could literally sell a fucking external gpu.

N64 was more powerful if I recall correctly, and the issue was the limit on the cartridges.

I would wanna see Nintendo make a "normal" console mostly for the graphics desu, there is no other reason to have a super powered console if it has nothing to offer,
Nintendo being able to do so much with so little power is impressive i guess, i mean they made fantastic games and also fantastic looking games from so little alone already,
I mainly wanna see their IP's with just higher polys and nicer textures that's about it though.

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Dockable devices are the future for us all. Nintendo are ahead of the curve.

Delete this

GC

The GC did badly in spite of being (mostly) traditional, so they went low powered and with a big unique feature with the Wii since they weren't sure what would be its reception.

They were banking on the Wii U being able to carry over the Wii's branding and sell just due to that, which didn't happen.

And the Switch came at a very bad moment. A traditional console released at that point would come WAY too late into the generation to receive any third party support, and they also needed to refresh their portable line since the 3ds was getting very old and had weak hardware from the start due to its main gimmick not being very appealing.

They literally are. I've seen docking stations to use your phone as a PC out there already.

You niggas blew the chance with the GameCube when you didn't buy it and bought a DVD player that played games instead.

People eat up their trash regardless, its why they can sell recycled Nvidia shit for premium prices. Do you not remember the Wii reusing Gamecube hardware? Or the Wii U literally being old spec shit that was 4 years old?

Imagine all the hundreds of millions it’s going to cost devs to develop a AAA game next-gen, meanwhile Nintendo is gonna ship a beefed-up 360 title and still outsell the competition.

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and? If anything that should prove that if they made a new F-Zero game and marketed it decently, it could sell very well and better then any previous game in the series. The fact they can sell FUCKING CARDBOARD in large supply for massive profits, should make them go "huh, maybe we can experiment a bit more with some of our other IP's we've been neglecting."

This, pretty much

Are they ugly and awkward? I'm guessing yes.

The issue isn't the hardware, but rather they sell games simple yet good enough.

Well below projections, Nintendo consoles always die in 4 years.

It's a smart move. Make a console which can play semi-good graphical games on the run.

Pffft you manchild. Normal people stop playing video games roughly after 16 when they have their first meaningfull relationship
I mean grow up you big baby

Cope.

>The issue isnt the hardware
>As most of the games and old ass ports run and look like shit, butchering the artstyle and people's eyes.

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GC flopped hard

variety.com/2019/gaming/news/nintendo-labo-sales-2018-1203125619/

Nah. FZero Maximum Velocity by itself was a million seller. F-Zero just had very inconsistent sales.

The only time it sold really well was alongside hardware launches (SNES, GBA), later games for the GBA which its giant userbase bombed though and didn't even sell 100k, in spite of the anime tie-in promoting them.

X and GX sold better than that, but not enough to become million sellers.

Wii survived for like 10 years.

No one wants to admit it, but there is no market for a powerful nintendo console. Sony gets as much as sales as it does because it has titles that are guaranteed to sell (FIFA/NBA/Madden, current trendy shootan game, high budget multiplats and western exclusives) ingrained into their culture. Alongside that, kids and teens are always gonna buy what their friends have, and the most popular kids will have what is cool, which will always be Playstation. Publishers and third parties know this, which is why betting on Nintendo even with a high powered console is a gamble.

Cope with facts? They lowered their forecast twice now.

No it fucking didn't. Its last several years had no fucking releases at all, most of its late games were just jrpg ports that weren't localized in NA because Nintendo is retarded.

Most Nintendo consoles are pretty much abandonware in

I guess I'll repeat. It isn't the hardware which is the issue. But how fun and simple the games are.
Most people want to have fun and not watch an interactive movie when they play games.

Their handhelds generally live for longer though, aside from the GBA.

It was released 2006 and discontinued 2017.
Most use discontinued as the console dies.

This is so wrong. See the x360 which succeeded.
Every one played sport game/cod on x360.

Because you faggots didn't buy the last one they made and bought a fucking DVD player instead.

That literally means nothing. They use an algorithm to try and determine what sales they will reach in X amount of time and if it isn't correct they adjust it. It's still selling extremely well and is outpacing the PS4 sales in it's first 36 months and is keeping pace with Wii sales.

in year 4***

Came way too late you stupid faggot.
Also yea, DVD player was great.

>aside from the GBA.
>sold 80 million units
>official life span is 2001-2010

Fun isn't an objective word. Tons of people don't find shitty Yoshi platformers fun.
>Most people want to have fun and not watch an interactive movie when they play games.
I'm confused are you referring to Xenoblade 2?

>120 hours of gameplay
I don't think he is.

That doesnt mean it had games or major releases in that time. Is the PS2 still alive? It's still getting titles.

They can. They're just not retarded enough to think people will buy consoles for their specs alone. If you want performance, you get a PC. Consoles will never be more powerful than a PC, so they have to achieve other niches, such as the Wii U's game pad or the Switch's portability.

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>Xenoblade 2
>interactive movie
Just going of stats it has 13 hours of cutscenes for 65 hours of game time for the main story alone.

>is outpacing the PS4 sales in it's first 36 months
The PS4 outsold it last year no?
Is this just launch aligned? Nintendo consoles always do best early on, but once the franchises cycle through, there's a drop.

It's why the 3DS dropped off super fast and is just getting old ports now if at all. Also why the 3DS was ALSO outpacing the PS4 and was shot past 2 years ago.

I was about to say the same thing about the NES, because there are still people who release games on it just for fun.

Because last time they did you retards bitched and moaned about the games on it and bought a DVD player instead.

Also specs mean shit since the same dvd player was fucking shit to work and had way less specs.

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nintendo's ips are their reason to exist. they don't really need gimmicks when they have mario, pokemon and zelda.

I wouldn't call babysitting menus and tons of cutscenes "gameplay". Do you mean pressing a button off cooldown? Actually I think most MMOs have more gameplay.

So a movie then.

Because they're creatively bankrupt and after the Wii they just can't stop chasing the gimmick dragon hoping to catch lightning in a bottle again while they shit out rehashes and ports at a snail's pace.

I'm thinking primarily of MGS4 as an example. Literally more hours of cutscenes compared to actual gameplay other than if you stand still or move around in a circle.
I still love MGS4 for what it is.

The PS2 still gets new FIFA iterations, for example.

>creatively bankrupt
>yet being innovative releasing the switch
Mixed messages here.

>The PS2 still gets new FIFA iterations, for example.
Christ, seriously?
When I talk about lifespan I mean until the console is discontinued.
I think NES is the longest living console to date.

Not anymore since 2017.

Wii still get just dance tho. Also mario kart sold like 20k according to Nintendo reports.

>Most people want to have fun and not watch an interactive movie when they play games.
is that why pokemon sun/moon sold so much?

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Too bad its dead. The only real movie games are shit like Until Dawn etc. I think the retard is confusing good story and characters with no gameplay. You can have both, easily.
But when you bring in Nintendo, its like bringing in Anime writing versus a well-traveled author. Even then Nintendo is STILL trying, but to say ANY of their writing is good is a worth a laugh.

I also want to add, the PS2 lived for 13 years which is impressive.

>>yet being innovative releasing the switch
How is a portable with video out innovative? The PSP had this.

the switch isn't innovative, it's an iteration of the wii u. and it's honestly worse in some aspects.

Pokemon at least had gameplay which goes beyond those cutscenes ours.
MGS4 didn't, at least for me.

The switch does not have a hdmi port, you fucko.

>b-but that doesn't count as gameplay
Also
>13 hours of cutscenes
>65 hours for main story playthrough
>250 hours for complete content playthrough
>cutscenes all skipable
>"So a movie then"
What other movies are like this?

>The PS4 outsold it last year no?
No, it was close but the Switch came out ahead in 2018.
And yes I was referring to their respective launch numbers.
>Also why the 3DS was ALSO outpacing the PS4 and was shot past 2 years ago.
I mean the 3DS still sold 75 million units. That's a ton even if it's not in first place.
>It's why the 3DS dropped off super fast and is just getting old ports now if at all
The 3DS has quite a good library and had a pretty steady stream of games throughout its lifetime. But yeah it's basically a dead console now that the Switch is out, it won't be getting anything new.

Sony and Microsoft can save money by sharing parts/factories/patents/employees across multiple divisions.

Nintendo has no such luxury, so keeping up technologically would be much more expensive for them. Also. Their core audience doesn’t really care.

Because the PSP didn't increase it's rendering power when you connected it to your TV.
Same as I wrote above. The Wii U and the Switch are vastly different in their approach.

>Pokemon at least had gameplay

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Yeah, having less power allocated to the CPU in general is why most games run like ass and that present input delay on so many games.

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hours for complete content playthrough
How the fuck is sending Ursala to sing training for 30 hours of "game time" fucking gameplay? Fuck off, none of the tasks in the game even amount to anything but waiting, even the combat is boring as fuck slow. It's a movie game by definition.

I know you're trying to make fun, but just because you didn't like it, it did give you more hours to play compared to cutscenes compared to MGS4 in the very same image.

>Because the PSP didn't increase it's rendering power when you connected it to your TV.
Yes it did, you could change the CPU timings.

What do you think the Game Cube was? What do you think the Wii U was an attempt at?
The issue is they literally dont have the resources to just compete in pure graphical power like Sony and Microsoft do because all they have is their video game department whereas Sony has their electronics and media divisions and Microsoft has tons of other computer divisions. The issue is that they simply don't really have a ton of hyper-specialized hardware divisions so they choose to make more gimmicky stuff because it's less expensive, ironically.

I agree on this. The input delay can be annoying in certain games.
News to me, but in that case, that's cool. I guess there is a reason the PSP sold so well.

>No, it was close but the Switch came out ahead in 2018.

Literally just googled it. What?

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>Merge all of their franchises
Except that's not really true because the issue lies in the fact that if they compete graphically, the whole appeal of that would be to try to attract third parties so they don't have to make as many first party games.
You've missed the whole point of why making a normal console would be antithetical to their current business model

I really enjoy Nintendo games and the swtich is the only console I've bought in the last 8 years or so. But I really wish it had more power. I just bought a 4k TV, and I wish I could play 4k BOTW.

My PC is not powerful enough for games, so my the only 4k content I pay on my TV is youtube vids.

Sad.

The real reason:

They can’t afford to make games at modern standards, with modern animation, textures, networking, AI, 4K resolution options, etc.

They literally would release one game a year if they had to do that. Cheap hardware means cheap development.

[/italics] Because it wouldn't be a good business decision [italics]

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Ursula's quest is shit but you can do other things while it happens. Also it's 10 hours, not 30. And you're an absolute pleb at an already easy game if the combat is by any measure slow for you after chapter 2. But regardless, you not liking the gameplay doesn't make it a movie game. That would just make it a bad game.

I think they can afford it, easily, they just dont want to raise expectations because people will buy the same franchises for eternity to pretend they are children again.

Hmm I guess there's some misinformation out there regarding this. This was one of my top results on google. Not sure which one is true.

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what for?

>an already easy game if the combat is by any measure slow for you after chapter 2.
I dropped the game around Chapter 8.
I never NEVER said it was hard, I just said it was awful. It's a bystander movie game, even killing lower levels were always a chore.
And yes, I knew about elemental comboing, optimizing blades, etc. The game is just slow movie trash.

It'll get more power when the X2 comes down in price or Ninty twists Nvidia's arm to make dedicated mobile-gaming chips for them. The current chip the Switch uses is a jerry-rigged Tegra X1. But if Ninty asked them to actually put real effort into making something that, from the ground up, was for the sort of shit the Switch does (handheld and overclock on docked mode, etc, etc), I think they could make something solid.
Though I also have the suspicion that Ninty will try to do a streaming device for their next console, maybe have the tablet bit have some sort of cellular chip that lets it stream games like how the Kindle's cellular bill was picked up entirely by Amazon

Just read the fiscal reports.

>textures
True
>networking
more their incompetence but also true
>animation, AI, 4K resolution
None of those are a cost issue. Ninty Animations are usually fine, as are AI. 4K resolution is literally just saying what resolution to scale the game to but that inversely affects performance

That's US only, which isnt even mentioned in the article.

Combat is slow because you suck, sorry to break it to you. As I said, not liking gameplay doesn't make it a movie game. A movie game is about either having many interactive cutscenes or having a heavy cutscene to gameplay ratio.

You mean like the GCN that sold only 21m units?

They did with the GC, and it bombed
Then they made the Wii and it was the most successful console ever for them.
Those are the facts. Their abnormality distinguishes them from PS4 and XBONE

>Combat is slow because you suck
How do you suck at a game with so few inputs? Fucking please. Even doing elemental burst chains were slow and tedious. I would legit LOVE to see you play the game to time how fast your battles are. Everything about the game was tedious garbage.

> A movie game is about either having many interactive cutscenes
Right, so its barely interactive, even on a battle per battle basis, and has less action than Xenoblade 1. It's a movie game.

FOR THE LAST TIME GCN WASNT A NORMAL CONSOLE YOU FUCKTARDS

How was the GCN not a normal console?
Hell, let's go back and look at the N64 and how that did worse than the SNES.
The issue is that Ninty only really benefitted from making normal consoles when there was no other competition.
But now? They have to find new blue oceans constantly, especially with how Sony and Microsoft are moving in on the handheld console gaming market now with the remote play and shit

>Why can't they make a normal console like Microsoft?
gee i wonder

>NO DVD
>Released 1 year late

Easy, it was advertised as a portable console, had super tiny discs that developers hated because of limits to data storage, memory cards were more expensive than PS2 ones on average, and no devs wanted to touch it after the PS2 was doing well.

>it had a handle! reeeeeee
Just off yourself, re re.

But it was still built in the idea of a normal console: focus on just power with no extreme gimmicks to controls or gameplay.
The issue is, as pointed out, Nintendo literally doesn't have the internal resources or industry leverage to be able to either
>get high-end components at a steeply discounted price
OR
>make a console that's powerful and sold at a loss

>He thinks mini discs and releasing after competition makes it not normal
Is it difficult to function in daily life with your sub-80 IQ?

>its no real console because it had no dvd player
sony killed videogames.

Because the PS2 was more capable in general on the whole? Yes, that sounds about right.
But you're ignoring the fact that it was Nintendo's attempt at a normal console.
The issue is that Nintendo can't make a normal console. They literally lack the resources to make a console powerful enough to compete in the graphics-armsrace that Microsoft and Playstation have set up for themselves. They were barely able to compete with the N64 and GCN, and they're completely outgunned in terms of company resources and connections now.

If you didn't suck, then combat wouldn't be so slow for you. Simple as. Also the game has no interactive cutscenes and the cutscene to gameplay ratio is fine, so it's not a movie game. By your logic, anything less interactive than an action RPG is a movie game.

>and has less action than Xenoblade 1
Just learn how to play the game man

>He's still playing video games at TWENTY YEARS OLD
>Didn't stop at 8 like a real man to go work in the nickel mines

Get a load of this incel manbaby

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It's the belief that if Nintendo literally didn't copy this other machine piece for piece, that means that the intent wasn't the same.
He's missing the point of intent because the product was shittier than other products

looks gelatinous

>f you didn't suck, then combat wouldn't be so slow for you.
Bitch please, I was even animation cancelling. You can't be bad at a game that basically plays itself, fucking dumbass. It's a movie game, get over yourself.

They misattributed the failure of the GameCube to competing directly with other consoles. And then the Wii happened, ensuring there will never be another standard, respectable console from Nintendo.

THEY DON'T MAKE CONSOLES ANYMORE, YOU FUCKING RETARD

THE SWITCH IS A PORTABLE

THIS IS NOT HARD TO UNDERSTAND, YOU LITERAL FUCKING RETARD

To be fair, they're right that the GCN and N64 failed because they were competing with consoles that were better in every comparable category.
So then they realized that the only way a dedicated game company with no external or parent-company resources could survive is by specializing. So they constantly find shit that they think hasn't been capitalized on completely and try to live there.
It doesn't help that now every single developer at Nintendo and for Nintendo is basically a handheld developer

Doing what they do now puts them into the combo group of "I'll get a Nintendo with either a Sony or Microsoft" unlike the Gamecube generation when it was "I'll get just one of them". Sony and Microsoft are in an arms year each generation with one clear winner between the two of them each time where the only difference comes down to a handful of exclusives worth playing. Not getting involved with that gives the market an alternate option that doesn't just feel like a copy of something you already own.

nincel rage

I don't know how people can make a decent report on how many units the switch sold last year. At least Sony wrote it in plain english. Sony sold 20 million units of the PS4 last year.
But if I read it right, the switch sold about 17,5 million units in last year.
I have no idea what happens for Sony in Q3 each year, since their sales shoots into the sky.

GCN was more powerful than PS2, but I think the console felt more childish back then compared to PS2. Plus the PS2 could be used as a DVD player.

>Bitch please, I was even animation cancelling.
My sides, is this supposed to be impressive? Just go watch some youtube videos if you're struggling that much dude.

It's honestly a shame Microsoft gave up the Multiplayer domination in the Xbox and 360 generation because they didn't want to pay for servers anymore because that was honestly some real fucking fun. I don't know what they could have added or innovated upon to keep that dominance but I wish they still had it.

N64 and GC were both the most powerful consoles of their generation, and also lost their generation to Sony in sales. Meanwhile the Wii was the gimmickiest console ever and sold gangbusters, and the Switch is the only gimmick console left and is outselling the PS4 and XBone.

No you dumb zoomers the reason why the PSX and PS2 won that gen was because devs decided to storage their games on CDs and DVDs guess who had the upper hand on those? Sony. Nintendo decided to offer an alternative with cartridges and mini dics but devs didn't like those.

Nintendo systems get emulated first because people care more about Nintendo exclusives than Sony/Xbox exclusives.

Look at what happened the last 2 times they tried. I wouldn't if I were Nintendo either.

>and is outselling the PS4

All good PC exclusives inevitably get worse console ports. Terraria. Minecraft. Civilization. Undertale. Binding of Isaac. A Hat in Time. Magicka. Hollow Knight. Rabi Ribi. Subnautica. Vermintide. All of these started on PC and eventually wound up on consoles because they're amazing games. There's not a single Sony/Microsoft exclusive I'd play over these games, except maybe, maybe, Bloodborne.

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>but I think the console felt more childish back then compared to PS2.
this right here is why nintendo will never do a ((serious)) console ever again, their brand image alone would ruin it
no dudebro would pick up a kiddy nintendo when they can play the same games on a mature playstation or xbox for mature gamers like myself

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I think they could, but why would they want to when they have a dedicated fanbase

I'm 22, actually, and have 8k in the bank, a longtime girlfriend, and I still play an average of 35 hours per week, when my job, girlfriend, and family allow.

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I thought the GCN was more powerful than the PS2 but the PS2 had certain hardware advantages that put it over the edge, like polygons per second and that stuff

>and have 8k in the bank
Ouch.

The problem with Snoys is they believe their own bullshit. Nobody cares about uncharted or the last lesbians. Seriously no one ever wanted those games. The exception was bloodborne and that was because DaS was popular. All the games we actually wanted MGS, Yakuza etc. Are on PC now.

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>like polygons per second and that stuff
I don't know the technicality but I don't know how they managed to do that when they had a worse GPU.
I might be wrong.

Stop lying, incel.

Why should they? The Switch is the best console they have made in decades. If you want a normal console so badly just wait for the inevitable cheaper box version of the Switch that you can only play on your TV.

Switch is incelstation. Even Xbone is chadstation in comparison.

And yet Switchbabbies are glorifying JRPG animes like XC2 and OT when those games have hours of cutscenes with tacked on simplistic gameplay. If I want gameplay, I'll just stick with my PC and replay strategy games. Those have more depths than choosing actions from menu and see them play out.

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I guess that's why the switch is catching up rapidly.

Where's the fun in that?

>If I want gameplay, I'll just stick with my PC and replay strategy games. Those have more depths than choosing actions from menu and see them play out.
I don't disagree with you. But we were talking about consoles and not PC master race.
If I could, I'd make every developer start making their games strictly for PC, but at least the switch has a niche that can survive as a hybrid console.

Just shows what an effective containment console it is. I don't want to play with incels personally so I'll stick with my chadstation 4.

You do so, and I will stay with PC and occasionally Switch.

we get it bro, you vape

I don't even drink.

How does that suit fit?

Because they're old fashioned snowflakes who still think the game industry is a children's toy business despite the insidious monetization, adult temperament and effort that others put into their products that they keep taking for granted and don't compete with.

The question is really, why do people keep supporting this company in light of the fact that their last three consoles have been absolutely atrocious.

The Switch is yet another green lit port intended Nintendo hardware in the making for the rest of it's transient life span before they move onto something else.

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PC + Nintendo = happiness

This guy gets it.

That's a really good point too

They failed when doing that with the 64 and the Gamecube. They only excel when doing what Sony isn't. If Sony makes a traditional console, Nintendo doesn't want to even compete with them. They know they would lose. They can only win by being something else entirely.

Long story short, it's the only way they can compete, and, looking at the Wii and the Switch, it works.

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>image
For short, decoupling.