Was it really that bad?

Yeah you can cycle through them so you don’t get the first one given to you but I hope this system in general gets tweaked though.
Although it’s nice that you can just use your forms without having to strictly save them for bosses

Could've and should've been much better. Blame the modern state of Square.

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...you mean the thing KH has done since day 1?
I will say it’s more pronounced now but still

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>Trying to put KH3 at the same level of DMCV

Nice try delusional faggot. KH3 is still shit.

No.

>without having to strictly save them for bosses
Yeah that could've been solved by letting you use them more often, like charging the meter faster

Pretty bad. Osaka team being incompetent like always isn't a surprise.
The biggest disappoinment is it not being able to live up to KH2FM. Peak action vidya.

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The combat is fundamentally unbalanced.
No DLC will fix that.

>The combat is shi-

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You do realize that KH2FM balances a lot of aspects of the combat right?

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>Magic is broken
>Combos have terrible lagand less modifiers
>Attaractions are broken and so are Donald and Goofy RNG limits
>Shotlocks are literally free damage that adds nothing to the gameplay
>Airstep is extremely OP with no downsides
>Mob fights are brainless Musou shit
>Boss fights are piss easy and with them having shitty revenge values, and """"""superboss"""" being a joke
Please tell me vanilla KH2 had these problems and that Osaka team will fix half of these

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ive never been so disappointed in a game before.

Yeah he's gone now, the only thing left are imitators. That last CP meltdown scared him off pretty badly.

After the last action game I just played which released recently this webm just looks awful

KH2 had a lot of these problems but the issue is that tokyo team at least had the experience and forethought to set up a clear baseline that could be used to springboard into more complex thought out and satisfying 1 on 1 combat trials for KH2FM.

KH III doesn't have any of that, it's like XV in that the keyblade switching is neither encouraged nor is it beneficial to combat.

Gameplay was shit. The whole game was too easy. The only times I died was once on Pirates Of The Caribbean when I couldn't catch up to the ship, once to Armoured Xehanort, and three times to final Xehanort.

Plot was stupid, too much bullshit like characters who died suddenly being not dead. Also what happened in the Disney worlds was more or less totally irrelevant to the plot. The only time plot happened was between worlds and then the final 4 hours or so.

It only took me 23 hours but it still felt like it dragged on more than KH1 or KH2.

>Muh combo brainless sandbags XD
Kek KH3 is bad but DMC shit also trash.

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Vanilla KH3 > Vanilla KH1 > Vanilla KH2

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It was very safe and took zero risks so it ends up being very "ok".
Even the story gives everyone what they want so easily that it feels unsatisfying in the end.
Not necessarily a bad game but it definitely feels like there wasn't a lot of passion put into it.

I really hate the BIG rooms with WAVES of enemies this game constantly does. Every game before this only had a few enemies spawn in a single part of a room and then another small portion in another part etc.

Worst console KH game. Very mediocre.

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>Was it really that bad?
No. Just painfully mediocre and that is the worst sin anything can make.

it wasn't good but wasn't terrible
just not worth the wait and the worst of the main trilogy

Shit. characters.
Shit. opinion.

Seething

The worlds fucking suck, what’s the point of making them huge when all it contains is just running around killing monsters. Pirates was the only world I enjoyed because it made you explore. The other worlds were complete shit.

The bosses are forgettable, I don’t know if this was because of them using Pixar movies or they had no idea what would make a memorable boss fight. Most of the worlds had no clear villain from the movies so they just used heartless that were not even related to the movie.

At least in KH 1 you fought Disney Villains and in KH 2 you fought Organization XIII as well as Disney villains.

There’s no point in changing keyblades mid battle. Flow motion got nerfed from DDD as well as shotlock from BBS.

Game really does need a final mix as it feels lacking in content.

KH3 was great
DMC5 was FUCKING AWESOME
RE2:RE was really cool
But, unfortunatelly, FFXV still is a piece of garbage

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>god hand
that game is clunky as fuck, its like playing with a stone that poorly slugs around the arena, don't put that in the same level as KH2.

KH3 threads are so dead now

>”It’s my turn to protect you Sora!”
>Gets captures anyway

At least your pretty Kairi

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But I just got it

Everyone has moved on the DMC5

no, not really
it's just that your average KHautist here had retarded expectations

Do people honestly believe DMC5 is better than this?
That game was garbage
>No block button
>No air dodge
>No auto lock on
>Linear
>Slow paced
I don't see how anyone can say that dated game is better than KH3

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>Aqua
>its my turn to shine
>gets bodied by Jobitas

Nice try, Barry.
DMC is great and KH is also great.

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Based.

Just as bad as every other KH game

t

>x,x,x,x,x,x, left, x,x,x,x
wow

Is there any reason to switch keyblades in the middle of fighting? Once I got Toy Story keyblade it was the only one I used.

Only when you wanna spam magic use the spell keyblade

It's the 2nd best game in the series. Critical mode and more super bosses will be very welcome.

>17 year conclusion
>ends on sequel bait while heavily advertising a gacha
>forced happy endings for all at the detriment of the plot
>things just happen with no explanation or reason
>dropped plot points
>no FF characters despite them being important since KH1
>no stakes, most villains just become good guys
>constantly recapping the story throughout the game
>terrible worlds with nothing to offer that you explore for no reason
>most worlds are just gimmicky and soulless recaps
>13 year wait
>tons of bugs, cut content, visual errors, unreal 4 engine, reused bosses, a bunch of shitty remixes, final boss doesn’t even have a unique theme, messy loops and songs, you only hear the Scala theme for a few seconds, terrible box art, pointless extra playable characters, broken gameplay (Roxas, Ultima, Grandmagic, etc), shit story and forced unnatural dialogue, flashy zero substance combat, withholding content to release it as DLC, and overall a rushed experience
>less content than PS2, PSP, and DS games
>Fans and critics agree it didn’t live up to the hype
>Most outlets that wrote negative reviews didn’t give a score
>Foreign paid shills reviewing the game as perfect
>Even with the critic score being inflated on PS4 it’s at best a mediocre game
>Lowest user score out of any KH title released to date
>Critically reviewed lower than KH1, KH2, and BBS
>Reached lows of 78 critically and 6.9 user score
>Not a good KH game, let alone a good game

What do you think?

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Yeah I kinda agree with y-
>terrible box art
Nevermind.

The style doesn’t fit in with Kingdom Hearts at all, compare it with the previous entries. This could be because of Nomura’s art style changed over the years, or because he’s just getting worse with age. The characters look like shit on the boxart, the colours are off, and it doesn’t even feature “Kingdom Hearts”

This.

>Mash X for awesome
I thought we gave KH2 enough shit for this?

>this taste

yikes. It's not even better than Re:Coded.

Serious question how did she come back at the end and why are sora and riku in our world now?

I fucking hate the lag pauses during mid combos when switching keyblades, it ruins the flow unless you use it without attacking. How is this a thing in an action game?

> XXXXXXXX ▲ XXXXXXXX

Technically no, it just wasn't as good as 1 or 2. And if a sequel is worse than what came before it, why even fucking bother?

JPN KH1 vanilla eats KH3's for breakfast, embarrassing that a modern 2019 game has less content than a product from 2002.

>expecting the vanilla release to be good
Are you new to this franchise? Just wait for the FM version.

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>KH2 is mash X
Retard

we'll find out either in a dlc or a switch-exclusive KH game

At least you got one of those right

>The style doesn’t fit in with Kingdom Hearts at all
Subjective, I don't think so.
>This could be because of Nomura’s art style changed over the years, or because he’s just getting worse with age.
It's unironically better than previous illustrations the fuck are you smoking.
>The characters look like shit on the boxart
No they don't.
>the colours are off
wat
>and it doesn’t even feature “Kingdom Hearts”
mmm I wonder if that ever happened before.......

Conclusion, you're a fucking retard and have no idea what you're talking about.

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Darkness

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>switch exclusive
Kingdom hearts 3.2 the quest for more money.

Here's hoping for Huey, Dewey, and Louie party in IV.

Absolutely based.

KH2FM will never be surpassed
youtu.be/JOkne5NfPwQ

>>forced happy endings for all at the detriment of the plot
this was a major turn off for me. death is cheap and everyone gets revived and lives happily. I guess that's something Disney would do, but still.

I know it's easy to blame Square, but with Disney being more and more successful since KH 1 and 2, it's likely Disney was more stingy with their IP and had strict guidelines of what is allowed and not. I'm being slightly optimistic about the Sora in Shibuya game just because Nomura isn't bound to Disney shit anymore.

>Subjective, I don't think so.
Not subjective at all. KH3’s boxart doesn’t fit at all with Kingdom Hearts style.
>It's unironically better than previous illustrations the fuck are you smoking.
Subjective opinion and wrong opinion.
>No they don't.
Look at any of the Kairi clones, Sora, or Riku. All of them look off.
>mmm I wonder if that ever happened before..
Are you blind or retarded? You can see a heart in the pic you posted.
>Conclusion, you're a fucking retard and have no idea what you're talking about.
Take a good look in the mirror. Nice non-argument.

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This is the same Osaka team that had the majority wanting to continue using DDD's command deck combat before Nomura rejected it, he's barely holding anything together at this point. How anyone can trust those talent-less hacks to unfuck the gameplay with DLC is beyond incomprehensible.

no, the games have always been decent

If Disney owns the Kingdom Hearts IP, that game will have Disney shit in it, whether Nomura wants it or not.

HD era was a mistake, first Xenoblade now this. My heart can't take it anymore.

I'm thinking thats true. I really didn't like how the disney worlds plots where exactly the same as the movie, rather than being its own thing like in previous games.

Based.
youtu.be/1Py21AwhTB0
Final Form >>>>>>>>>> """""""Ultimate""""""" Form

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I loved it. Sure, it wasn't as good as 2, but it was better than 1 or any of the spin-offs

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>The combat is fundamentally unbalanced
Yet it's leagues better than KH1

I’m fine if some characters come back, it’s to be expected. But don’t just kill off everyone and then just have them all come back in the same game. Every death, despite being significant to the plot in most cases, just became pointless in KH3.

blessed and enlightenedpilled.

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>but it was better than 1
Shit taste detected, 3 feels soulless as fuck coming off of 1. Don't even get me started on Proud mode differences between the two.

>Not subjective at all. KH3’s boxart doesn’t fit at all with Kingdom Hearts style.
What is this "kingdom hearts style" you speak of you absolute mouthbreather? The style has always been Nomura's own style mixed with Disney's properties.
>wrong opinion
Not subjective and not wrong. shading is better, colors are better, lines and shapes are better defined, characters don't look like stickers anymore and have proper volumes, not to mention that sky is absolutely breathtaking.
>there's a heart cushion therefore its Kingdom Hearts!
Moving the goalposts I see.
>no u
This is just embarrassing.

Nope. Game is great if you're a fan of the franchise

KH1’s combat is a product of its time, but is still masterfully made and still holds up well to some extents. You have tons of abilities that change the way the game is played and are fun to use, and if you want to go a step further you can master the combat by learning how to deal the maximum amount of damage (short hop attack/use magic, cancel, repeat). In KH3 you don’t have that. Attractions, summons, form changes are all just another way to get you to spam X or continue to deal massive amounts of AOE damage. Not to mention you get tons of abilities at level 1 and never really progress, I mean for fucksake you stop gaining abilities half way through leveling.

lol fans of the franchise know it's a disappointment.

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>Floaty combat
>Butchered difficulty balance
>Magic utility is neutered/too offensive based + fire spam
>Objectively worse summons
>No tech points
>Attraction Flows in general
>"leagues better"

Nope. Kill yourself.

I'm playing 1 right now.and it's awkward as shit. Shit controls and horrible dialogue, even worse than 3 and that's a cringefest

>3 is soulles-

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CUM

>More fun, fluid and smooth, challenging, and gohas greater depth than anything in KH3
Jesus Christ why can't Osaka team beat a 13 year old PS2 game?
EVEN RECODED HAD BETTER COMBOS THAN KH3 FOR FUCKSAKE

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It's really clear how a company views its fans when Square poops out an entry 13 years in the making that feels amateurish and uncaring in its sequel shilling while Capcom rewarded its fans waiting 10 years with DMC5, which by all accounts is objectively the greatest action game ever made.

People died waiting for KH3, but they did themselves a favor.

>I'm playing 1 right now.and it's awkward as shit.
No you aren't.
>Shit controls and horrible dialogue
KH3 in a nutshell? Granted i'll give you the camera.
>even worse than 3 and that's a cringefest
At least pretend you aren't blatantly full of shit to defend a watered down product to deflect buyers remorse.

Kingdom Hearts 3 is better than Kingdom Hearts 2. Nostalgia oldfags need not apply

>-s

I remembered being extremely hyped back in 2013, I've completely lost any faith I've had in nu-Square. Capcom has it light years better it hurts.

>What is this "kingdom hearts style" you speak of you absolute mouthbreather? The style has always been Nomura's own style mixed with Disney's properties.
>Because it has Disney characters and Nomura’s OCs means it’s the Kingdom Hearts style
pic related is you

Two completely different styles are shown here and if you can’t see that maybe you should stop arguing about art. Every other KH game follows this style, KH3 doesnt.

>Not subjective and not wrong.
>he said while giving his subjective opinion as to why he thinks it’s better
pic related is you

>KH3 doesn’t feature Kingdom Hearts
>KH2 clearly has Kingdom Hearts visible
>Moving the goalposts I see.
pic related is you

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>Kingdom Hearts 3 is better than Kingdom Hearts 2.

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Bitch, I bought all the KH games, because KH3 reignited my passion for them and I'm currently almost done with 1. It's objectively worse than 3. I have practically make myself to play it, the only saving grace is that KH 2 is next and it's perfection

>ablooo blooo blooo u dumb dumb!
Not even gonna bother replying to you anymore, nice selfie you posted btw.

Who said it's bad? It's great. I have to assume it's just PC fags shitting on this game, like they do every other game they cant play.

Level 1 Proud mode is the way you MUST play though if you want the real KH experience, normal difficulities with leveling is ridiculously easy.,

>no u
Embarrassing. I accept your concession.

It's not a bad game but it seriously needed more content and writing fixes

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You're a fool if you thought it would surpass KH2. Everyone who thought modern Square Enix would deliver a great sequel to KH2 was a fool. Myself included

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KH3 doesn't have a single good boss fight in it. Even KH1 shits on it.

youtube.com/watch?v=84jcanELAWE

>Who said it's bad?
Dunkey

Damn fucking destroyed.

user i thing that kh1 had one graphic design for every world

You'd have to be delusional to think it's anything but mediocre. Great? It's lacking features that PS2 games had. Worst story. Worst bosses. Horrific ending. Come on, man.

I mean, the writing was on the wall with the B-team handling this. People who have any faith in the Final Mix DLC are really not setting their expectations straight, even KH3's secret boss was a massive step down from Phantom Aqua.

Yeah I loved that boss that was in the base game, retard.

>KH3 doesn't have a single good boss fight in it
Nice bait.

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>x,x,x,x,x, *gets hit*, x to counter, x,x,x,x,x
wow

Well, I've marathoned it with a friend and had a blast. It delivered the only thing ot needed to: good fanservice and closure for most characters.

Neat gameplay was a bonus, even if its style over substance.

KH2 Vanilla was absolutely shit though. 1 optional boss and it was easy. Reaction commands were so great guys huh? Retaliate slash wasnt OP either! Neither was reflect! You could beat 2 by just mashing x and triangle too. The story in 2 was also awful, you meet riku then literally 3 minutes later a magical secret machine we've never seen before saves him completely for no reason at all except plot convenience.

Why do people pretend that Vanilla 2 didnt have EVERY problem that 3 has and more?

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It took everything bad about 2 and amped it up to 11, while also adding too many systems from spinoff KH game to the point where combat is filled with way too many useless abilities like Shotlock and Links. Attractions and Team attacks are just straight up overpowerd, and they also pull you out of the gameplay which gets annoying if you accidentally use them, like say when you're trying to open a chest. Aerial mobility is completely free, which reduces the combat and level design depth significantly since you can just fly endlessly from the very beginning.
Flowmotion was kind of fun, but most of the time it was just running up walls since the other uses were unnecessary thanks to infinite air dashes.
It is unlikely that a "harder" mode would fix most of these problems. so the game will stay mediocre.

>does nothing
>wins

>*spams fire*
>wins

>use Ultima
>deal 4 health bars in one attack
>*spams x*
>wins

Did you think this was a worthy response or something? lol

Oh yeah I forgot. It's unfair to compare final mix versions of PS2 games to PS4 games that had four years of development with a much larger team and budget.

youtube.com/watch?v=ivjNzBYyELo

Every single boss in 3 is incredibly well designed, you just can't tell when playing on normal or proud because they set their damage output so low you don't need to pay attention or strategize, when you play level 1 proud mode you will see how great the bosses are when they are actually dangerous, when this game gets extra story dlc, better difficulty and super bosses it will be the best game in the entire series

>KH2 is bad and just as flawed as KH3
>KH3 is the best
This is some major cope posting.

Nice shitty opinions, too bad I'm going to have to throw them in the trash along with every other subjective shitposters opinion

>good fanservice
>Kairi, Ven, Aqua were useless
>Lingering Will has no explanation
>no critical mode
>no colosseum
>No ff characters
>close
>almost all of the ending was sequel bait for the next game
>sora just disappears

uh huh. sure thing

You guys keep trying to shit on Kh2 to prop up KH3. Not working. It was still rated higher by fans and critics. Nice try though.
Reaction commands were way better than attraction flows. Sephiroth alone is better than any boss in KH3. KH2 had better gameplay and worlds. Its story had a good sense of pacing with a climatic midpoint. The final stretch is better than the rehashed org battles of KH3. Vanilla Kh2 is worlds better than Kh3.

Damn you PC bros arre really salty over this one, don't worry you will get to play it eventually when we are all done with it. The salt levels in this thread really are off the charts.

>it's a good game, I swear.
>DLC will fix it

uh huh

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>it was rated higher by retards hurr

Nah pc fags lowered the score of 3 like every other console exclusive because they are jealous and obsessed, that's just fact

How is that even remotely close to subjective? Lacking content, a story being bad, an ending being bad, and poorly designed bosses aren’t a subjective opinion in terms of KH3.

>It's objectively worse than 3.
See: Just stop and admit that you're arguing in favor of an RPG that prioritizes flash over mechanical substance.
>I have practically make myself to play it, the only saving grace is that KH 2 is next and it's perfection
Which makes it even more pathetic how much worse the latest release is compared to the second installment, and thats w/o including FM2. But go ahead and keep telling me how enamored you were over the game throwing so much spectacle shit on screen to keep the audience's attention while hiding how shallow it is to play.

>Granted i'll give you the camera.
1's camera was only shit in the ports. Game was designed with L2 and R2 as the camera controls and it worked way better for that game, also using right stick to navigate the command menu was much faster than what we have now. I'm still annoyed the 1.5 port doesn't even have an option for classic control scheme.

>pc fags

is this the new boogeyman? What happened to Barry? Wasn't working out?

Fuck off with this parroting reddit shit.

Are KH2FM niggers the Melee stinkies of Kingdom Hearts?

Didn't say it would 'fix' anything please stop crying already. I said it would make it the best in the full series. Cope. Also fags that want damage scaling are retarded, leveling up keyblades is already a feature and so is using food for stat buffs, unless you are a sperg you will never do too little damage to anything. People want to play level 1 mode but dont want it to be actually hard, that's the definition of autism right there.

>pretending droves of sad neckbeard pc fags dont immediately give 0 ratings to every console exclusive

Okay, but that's pure denial.

>I can't refute anything he said, so I'll call it reddit!

>all criticism comes from reddit
You should go back

>cp meltdown

explain

>Why do people pretend that Vanilla 2 didnt have EVERY problem that 3 has and more?
Because it didn't. I'm glad your lies don't work anymore

If you mean the absolute smelly, autistic contrarians of the fan base then yes

You forgot the occasional curaga or Hi potion

The boogeyman of the Month. Seems every fucking thread has to have some grand conspiracy as to why the game is disappointing to some as if they don't know what trolling is, which is probably the case because this place can't detect sarcasm for shit anymore.

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Nothing. Just some guy was upset at an off topic being made on Yea Forums (post asking about who was Barry) and decided to nuke the thread by posting gore of babies.

>HURRRR DURR BACK IN MY DAY GAMES WERE SO MUCH BETTER HERRRPA DERRRRRRRRRRRR

Old men fuck off. KH3 is better than KH1 and 2 in every way and you are too blind to let go of the past.

Nice denial retard. Game is already better because no reaction commands and no OP blocking/reflect mechanics. Story is also 10x better than 2. People complaining about 3 story are the same retards that didnt play any of the games leading up to it.

Nobody is falling for your bait

KH is interesting, the first game was pure mash X to win, but the second not only made mash X to win more fun than ever, but it made every other option just as fun and hard hitting, I actually loved using summons in KH2FM

/Thread

The one thing KH had going for it was continuously shat on following BBS-now. Osaka team just has absolutely no clue on how to make a competent action game and no amount of DLC will fix the game, this franchise should have just ended with KH2FM instead of degrading to a walking flashy corpse it is nowadays.

Aqua didn't job against Vanitas, he couldn't beat her so he went for the barrier instead.

Oh fuck off with your autism. 3 is good, not great, not perfect like 2, but it's definitely better than 1. They basically threw a lot.of poorly meshing shit together and called it a day gameplay wise. It has it's charm, but it is objectively less polished and less playable than 3. Stiff combos, shitty camera, slow combat and unbalanced magic make it mediocre. If you take your rose colored nostalgia goggles and actually replay it, you'll agree

Nice bait

>new good because graphics
>old bad because gameplay
Fuck off Zoomer scum

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>KH3 is better than KH1 and 2 in every way

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>1's camera was only shit in the ports. Game was designed with L2 and R2 as the camera controls and it worked way better
>with L2 and R2 as the camera controls
>worked way better
That's some next level denial right there

>13 years of development
>for a game with half the bosses as its predecessor

yikes

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>shit pcfags who cant play games tell themselves to stop themselves crying

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>comparing a vanilla game to an expanded game when the extended version added 15 bosses

HURRRRRRRRR

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To this day I don't know why you shitposting virgins still use this as an example that the game is bad when it was actually an amazing moment in the context of the story that used gameplay to deliver it flawlessly.

It did. you never had to take your thumb off the face buttons while platforming to adjust the camera, and the level design made it unnecessary to pan the camera up or down.

He's right though, he couldn't beat her at all so he had to try and shatter the barrier. It's like the bits in Jackie Chan movies where he could beat the shit out of the bad guy but he has to keep on catching expensive vases and shit the villain keeps knocking over and every time he grabs a vase the villain gets a hit in. Vanitas was weak.

>Didn't say it would 'fix' anything please stop crying already.
Then stop fucking pretending post-launch updates will elevate it higher than above average-status at best. And need i remind you that fire spam is still a thing in lvl 1 runs.
>Also fags that want damage scaling are retarded
Argument immediately discarded entirely, enjoy being under the influence of chip damage without resorting to shitty cooking mini-games, etc to get by outside of bosses.
> leveling up keyblades is already a feature and so is using food for stat buffs
Which are also done terribly

Not him, but I replayed KH1FM recently and it had none of the problems you speak of.
>Stiff combos
Extremely fluid and was designed with combat and feel in mind, unlike KH3 which focuses on looks and flash. KH1’s attack animations are actually a lot better than KH3’s. Have you seen rage form?
>shitty camera
Didn’t have a single problem with the camera, and if you did that’s user error since you can control the camera yourself. KH3 doesn’t improve on this anyway, the same shit can be seen all over the place in Twilight Town (woods specifically).
>unbalanced magic
This is bait. Have you even played KH3? Magic is busted as fuck. The only thing even remotely OP in KH1 is Aero and Gravity. Aero is always good since it reduces damage taken and gravity is good situationally against enemies it can effect with high amounts of HP. Cure in this game is only semi-broken because of leaf bracer which was added in FM. Even then none of these win you the fight alone. Meanwhile KH3.... spam fire, win fight, spam aero, win fight. It’s a joke.

They never played the game, they only have 6 year old ports to play on their toasters so they try to bend reality to what they wish it was.

Are you actually trying to say that KH2FM isnt infinitely better than KH2 Vanilla?
You have no idea what you're talking about. If you struggle to upgrade your keyblades to do damage I don't know what to tell you you must be autistic. I just completed proud level 1 without ever cooking, just kept my keyblades levelled.

>win an entire boss fight by standing completely still and doing nothing
>good design that was intentional
Huh?

yeah its mash x when you play on beginner level

We know this is bait but obviously it was a massive story moment, you already fight this boss before this. This is the same boss battle repeated just so your angry party members can kick his ass. They are supposed to be OP, you already beat the boss 3 minutes prior to this, it's supposed to be a glorified cuscene.

KH2 is mash X on every level. People pretending otherwise are in complete denial.

It was a victory lap fight that was impossible to lose, like Nero vs Vergil in DMC5. Dislike it if you want but it was clear what they were going for if you weren't a brainless retard.

>DMC5 has multiple threads a day hitting the post limit
>RE2 has multiple threads a day hitting the post limit
>KH3 barely has threads every couple of days, and it takes all day to reach post limit

KH3 was a major disappointment, despite what shills here are trying to claim. The hype died down incredibly fast because of how disappointing it was

>I've never played KH2: the post

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Do better fag.

It's s obvious they are just trolling, it even says 'help roxas and xion defeat saix' instead of the usual 'defeat saix'

the super secret boss is wait and attack kind of gameplay

I got a lot of fun out of it but it's clear that the messy dev cycle that encompasses every single modern AAA Square-Enix release fucked with it. I hope KH4 or whatever uses KH3 as a base and builds on it rather than having to reinvent the wheel again.

Wow he hit triangle then mashed x! You're right user, such sofisticated advanced technique!

Why didn't they just let you play as Roxas? It's fucking stupid to have an easy as shit boss fight. Just make it a cutscene.

>you already beat the boss
When? The guy in that clip stood completely still for the entirety of that fight.
>intentional glorified cutscene
Do you realize how stupid you sound? If their goal was to have AI kick his ass then why not let us play as that character? It was completely unintentional and isn’t the only instance of this.

Next you’re going to say it’s completely intentionally that Donald & Goofy beat Xehanort for you.

>spam triangle to win
slightly better but not all that much of an improvement
Limit Form was so busted, the fact that it heals when it uses limits is insanely useful for cheesing fights

Meanwhile, in KH3.

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>W

>hurr durr i have never played the game!~

You beat him before this fight happens obviously, you are so stupid.

KH noob here. I've yet to start 3 (I have it and it's been installed since launch day) because I wanted to play all the others first. Still have BBS, DDD, and .2 to play and the two movies to watch. Once I finish the others, should I move on to other series until they add the Final Mix stuff to 3?

>Oh fuck off with your autism.
You first.
>3 is good, not great,
Its factually mediocre
>not perfect like 2, but it's definitely better than 1
Its worse than both of them outside of shinier visuals and minor QoL changes that didn't suck.
>They basically threw a lot.of poorly meshing shit together and called it a day gameplay wise.
You just described KH3 in a nutshell. Are you a literal newfag here?
>It has it's charm, but it is objectively less polished and less playable than 3.
May as well convince me that DmC is more polished and mechanically superior to DMC1 then.
Stiff combos,
As opposed to the laggier/floaty combo featured in KH3?
>shitty camera,
Conceded
>slow combat and unbalanced magic make it mediocre.
>Unbalanced magic
>In a game where fire spamming triumphs mixed with situational command magic finisher that cost zero MP
My sides
>If you take your rose colored nostalgia goggles and actually replay it, you'll agree
The irony.

You’re actually retarded

>donald and goofy beat xehanort

They aren't even in the fight and it just shows that you've never played the game or you played the game on easy mode then complain Or even more pathetic you've let yourself be baited wy salty pcfag webms of them playing on easy mode at level 99 with the best accessories in the game.

both companies have lost a step since KH2. it was a good effort, but I don't think the crossover is nearly as exciting these days. the OC story doesn't really do it any favors either

>It's factually amazing
Fixed.

COPE

youtube.com/watch?v=40LGgNB0pbs

youtube.com/watch?v=XUt1xvgdomw

Completely intentional right? The final boss is supposed to be a glorified cutscene.

>SE

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See

>30 levels higher than you're supposed to be with the best equipment in the game

I hope this is bait

Pretty much, ironically the threads Barry was shitposting in kept them alive them the mediocrity that was the game itself. People legitimately moved the fuck on quick especially now that SE cannot make a sophisticated action game in-house to save their lives, compared to the rest of the competition coming out better than ever.

Cope.
youtube.com/watch?v=Anm6Whv6my4

Even though Dark Souls 1 came out a full year earlier than KH1? Do some basic research before embarrassing yourself nect time. Also DS 2+3 are recycled garbage so I don't know what your point is.

Yikes I don't want to hear this autistic spergs subjective opinion. KH2 opening was absolute emo cancer for edgy teens, if you are actually saying it was good you're retarded and I now know I'm right.

The power of awakening is some bullshit that can "restore a heart to a previous state" which for some reason can be extrapolated to turning back time and reviving people. Sora was apparently abusing it too much and paid the price when he saved Kairi.

I liked KH3, but my main gripe with it was the finale being extremely disappointing.

???

Finale was disappointing? Literally waht game did were you playing? Also did you even play the other games in the series. It cohesively ended 5 stories at once, people who say the ending was bad are either trolling, brainlets or stopped playing them years ago which makes their opinion completely irelevant anyway

Is it good design to have you be level 30 when fighting the final boss, anything higher and you win by doing nothing? Then why not have level 30 be the max, why give us 70 other levels?

You can be level 100 in KH1 and KH2 and still have trouble with the final boss, you can never win by doing nothing. Yet in KH3 that’s the case and apparently, according to you, is good design.

Its actually even worse now that DMC5 came out, my timeline is literally flooded with people chanting how inferior KH3 is in the gameplay department, even from fanboys who actually enjoyed it.

Cope.
youtube.com/watch?v=Hy2Umwqawyg

> KH1: 2002
> KH2: 2005
> Dark Souls 1: 2011

???

>Even though Dark Souls 1 came out a full year earlier than KH1?
explain

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Absolutely. Do not touch the game until FM comes out.

ITT: people imagining their game literally made for 8 year olds staring mickey mouse, donald, and goofy is complex, deep, and innovative

someone post the six minutes of advertisement for the frozen soundtrack

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You’re the dumbest person in this thread, fitting for you to be a KH3 shill.

Why was MX such a massive disappointment coming off of Xemnas?

this

>A FUCKING GOAT HEAD
>/fa/ zebra stripes
No contest really.

I think he meant DDD but somehow typed the wrong game title

This makes sense,

KH ddd is already nearly 7 years old :O

What was that price though? Going to shibuya japan? Can thry no longer wield keyblades?

I'm not sure if Riku is also in the UG but Sora's price was likely his abilities.

Yeah, it's hard to believe. I still remember playing the demo and getting the game as my first one in the series

He died. TWEWY Shibuya is where dead people go. Nomura's other game is now the canon afterlife in Kingdom Hearts.

Why do you assume there will be a final mix?

>

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Explain further please brainlet here trying to understand.

I don't get the hate at all

It looks gorgeous and I was pretty blown away at the size of some of the worlds

Gummi sections were still shit though

Not sure why you faggots are expecting dmc3 combat

Pretty much. I haven't paid attention to this fanbase in years and to see KH II get so much praise now is disconcerting. It was shit on pretty hard at release for things like barren, boring level design, no platforming, the main story disappearing after Twilight Town until the middle of the game, having to go back through all the worlds again, etc. FM certainly added a good amount of content, and the optional bosses are all great, but everything else is still mind numbing. Do people that felate just fight the data battles and The Lingering Will and never play any other part of the game?

Based

failed product. where was the gameplay. too much cutscenes.

>even the gameplay was a bunch of cutscenes
how did square get away with releasing a game like this?

Seems you're just not familiar with Nomura's other games. The 104 building showed in the secret movie is the same building seen in The World Ends With You, another game Nomura made. In that game, people who die are sent to a fictional version of Shibuya and the 104 building is a prominent landmark there.

>vanilla KH always have shitty story
delusion

Yeah, it's a Squeenix game made in the last decade so it sucks fucking dick

barry basically lost his mind and started posting CP and Gore after someone linked his GameFaQ account. A bunch of aussie posters and a bunch of people started threatening to report him to the Melbourne Victoria police station(Where he lives)

And he lost his shit even harder and kept trying to say he was being falseflagged and finally admitting to ban evading.

The aussie poster reported him to his cop buddy and barry hasn't been seen since.

Does someone have the kh2 ruined everything picture?

Except that’s not even remotely true. Some guy just wanted to 404 the thread and repeatedly called Barry an e-celeb and not video games, he didn’t even post CP. First he tried derailing it by posting gets, then had a meltdown and posted gore. That guy wasn’t even Barry.

I played like an hour of that gane and got bored, so the 2 are connected now thats ok i guess. Heres to less disney shilling hopefully.

Based

they made the combos a lot of fun, if only they added variety of pressing circle or square for variety

thread needs a cutscene

>if only the game was better
I wholeheartedly agree.

Hey Barry, you are forgetting that you are currently banned

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Based

They have thought about it with the up slash and down slash but thats it

>Tfw I liked KHIII and KHIIFM but my favorite one in the series is KHI

This might be a good thread to find some ingredients.

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It's usually true though. Even a zoomer friend of mine is more into 90s games and he's too dumb to be a hipster.

Based.

>I liked KHIII
opinion discarded

I understand you. KH I is the only one I like.

>Ending features Xehanort fucking off to the afterlife with his butt-buddy as teenagers despite all the awful shit he did.
>Sora has to sacrifice himself yet again to save Kairi, who 'nort murdered awhile ago.
>Ending is all the shitty handheld characters who did jack shit the entire game getting half-assed happy endings with Kairi alone and miserable.
Sucks since there were actually good moments in the game that later get underminded.

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>game took forever to come out
>excited for DLC
goddamn sheep

>Press Triangle
>Win the game

There is such an innocent charm to the first game, from the voice cracking Sora to the experimental worlds there was definitely low points but the high points really stuck out to me.

That's just how the younger generation is, unfortunately. And some older people too for some reason. At least the kids who grew up with shitty DLC practices have something of an excuse.

Yes

fuck them

You can ignore them, eh?

retard

Nice comeback, does it come with an actual argument?

That ending was shit, I don't think anyone can deny that. I was waiting for everyone to bash Xehanort's face in after he tried to act like a misguided good guy.

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Without them the combat is really, really basic.

Square Enix is a misguided company and I'm ready to believe that they produced another pile of scrap. In fact, Square is so bad that I won't even buy any of its decent releases.

Without them it's the same as 2's. Unless reaction commands don't count as "press triangle to win".

DMC5 actually delivered, I cant go back to KH3 without feeling disappointed
Fucking Square needs to take notes on how to do a remake and a long awaited game release

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>it’s okay if you just ignore it
This is the dumbest shit ever said

She should have been killed off permanently. To hell with this shit character and no I don't want to play as little miss uninteresting worthless pile of garbage. Much less waste worlds I want in KH like Incredibles on Kairi. I hate that aspect of the series, let's waste worlds that are good on Non-Sora characters like how Stitch was wasted on the BBS trio.

DMC5 also made the same mistake KH3 did. It revived Vergil because he's popular and what did they do with him? Nothing, just rehash the same rivalry garbage from DMC3. Should have stayed DEAD. I hate reviving characters just because of fantards. Fuck this shit to hell. And again KH3 also did this shit. Some characters should die and stay dead, preferably all of them whenever they're killed off they never return. Say what you will about Metal Gear but when a character dies they're gone. Truly and absolutely gone, they won't be revived.

He's right. Cope faggot.

>Unless reaction commands don't count as "press triangle to win".
RCs on bosses required a preset condition retard and don't automatically make you win.
It never interrupted gameplay neither since they were very quick.
Also lol at KH3's combat being anything close to KH2's

I'm glad Vergil and Roxas are back desu.

Does that faggot not see the crying face at the end of the sentence? BB is clearly upset that things were going to turn out like they did.

>Say what you will about Metal Gear but when a character dies they're gone
OH NO NO NO NO NO HE IGNORED MGS4 & MGSV

>Stitch was wasted on the BBS trio.
Only Aqua/Terra I enjoyed Stitch’s interactions with Ven.

Yes, user, everything is bad when you ask to certain people

He’s just a KH coper who seeks attention from Barry and frequently visits /khg/. This is just another attempt of him trying to get attention.

It's fine. Just like anons mentioned earlier here it could've been more.

>RCs on bosses required a preset condition
And? So do situation commands.
>and don't automatically make you win
Lol, what? They often take off multiple full healthbars.

I don‘t care about kh style. But kh1 box art is soooo kino. Standing on top before kingdom hearts and that depressive feeling. K I N O. Btw. I don‘t like the noses in kh3 box art

This seems like a good place to complain about Square being shit. I opened up the Playstation store and found cancer. Chocobo dungeon sounds fun. Looks cute. But, they're really pushing it with these fucking cheap mobile ports of PSP games and games that just jerk off all over their legacy.

>Repliku refused to take the replica 2.0 his evil-self was using so Namine can come back
>actually the Organization still had a dozen of replicas hidden somewhere as show in DDD

I want to lewd them. Someone stop me.

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>And? So do situation commands.
No. Those were random and required basic button mashing before pulling out whatever flashy shit was served on silver platter compared to RC.
>Lol, what? They often take off multiple full healthbars.
Such as which enemy and on what difficulty? And even then its still far better balanced than KH3's lackluster usage of SC.

>Those were random and required basic button mashing before pulling out whatever flashy shit was served on silver platter compared to RC.
Reaction commands only required you to wait for an enemy to do a specific attack before granting you free damage.

Does anyone else feel like the manga significantly reduces how ridiculous the games are?

Like Kingdom Hearts actually works really well as a movie/anime/manga where Donald Goofy and Sora go from world to world

As for 3, its awesome to look at but the meddling by Disney was ridiculous. You mean to tell me we went 17 years without “Zero to Hero”, “You’ll be in my heart” or any of the other non little mermaid disney classics being sung with the characters present but we got fucking TWO frozen songs??

And what, we couldnt fight Zurg? Or Mr Waternoose/Randall?

It felt like the disney stuff was wayyyyy tacked on and wayyyyy regulated when it should have been more of what we got before (Deep Jungle, Pridelands, etc) that worked so well

>His evil self
What? On that note, I wonder when it was exactly that Repliku attached himself to Riku's heart.

It's free dumbasses

>game's out for a month
>everyone already forgot it came out
Yeah. It was that bad.

I guess this thread and the daily threads of KH3 that have been going on for a month don't count, then.

No, but yes.

Oh, I'll addend that post too by saying Barry singlehandedly advertised KH3 near 24/7 for the entire month before release, too.

Yikes

Dark Riku is time traveling Repliku before his change of heart, when he still was a dick, it's Repliku's evil-self

>I wonder when it was exactly that Repliku attached himself to Riku's heart.
Some people say it happened at the beginning of KH3 when Riku gets his new hair cut but considering Repliku asks how long has Riku been aware of his presence and that when Xion died she just returned to her original I guess Repliku's heart just joined Riku when he died in CoM

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There's actually two Dark Rikus, this one and the one you meet in BH6 are different people.

user they literally dedicate an entire scene to explicitly say, "Hey, Riku, it's you when Ansem took control of you." Unless they actually fucking time traveled Repliku's dumb ass into the future for some reason. Nigger doesn't even have any Nort in him.

At least we can thank KH3 for its loading screen memes.

Post em

>Create your own:
liinch.github.io/KH3PostGenerator/

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user they literally dedicate an entire scene to explicitly say "I know you thought he was the real you from the past but he's not" you fucking retard

Damn. Fucked again by not finishing the game despite having a month to do it.

I want to breed Aqua.

>Some people say it happened at the beginning of KH3 when Riku gets his new hair cut
It was, he's the one who asks if Riku wants his help while he's drowning in the void. What I want to know is what the fuck that watery void was, since when has that been a thing that happens when you get hit by heartless?
>when Xion died she just returned to her original
That's because she was containing Sora's memories, repliku was just a straight copy without leeching anything from the original.
>user they literally dedicate an entire scene to explicitly say, "Hey, Riku, it's you when Ansem took control of you."
And at the moment of his death they reveal who he actually was, turned out he had everyone fooled.

The only people who claim it's bad are those who are just shamed to be seen playing a Disney game. They've been shitting on Kingdom Hearts since the first game and it's for the exact same reasons, they're just embarrassed to be seen playing a kiddie game.

Based & Redpilled

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Silly user, those thighs are built for fighting and not to have around your head.

Please refrain from speaking like that about my wife.
No more pictures pls.

Wrong, I adore this series with every fiber of my being and 3 disappointed me greatly.

I guess it doesn't help that he was probably brought to the future from some point where he truly believed he was the real deal.

>Wife
Are you Terra by any chance?

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>he's the one who asks if Riku wants his help while he's drowning in the void
That's not proof for Repliku entering Riku's body in KH3, just proof for Repliku helping him in KH3, we don't know how many time he was inside him.

>That's because she was containing Sora's memories
Why would memories (memories = mind = soul) have something to do with hearts? The memories she was leeching from Sora returned to Sora, her heart joining Sora too is something else.

>not knowing who barry is

Not quite, it was from after he killed Zexion as shown by his extra dark powers here , but before Riku kicked his ass into submission.

Nomura just loves to make everything confusing

it was shallow. the game was lacking in content.

Because she was the memories user, a gestalt entity created from almost nothing. Repliku was created from copied memories, Xion was leeching the originals.

That's basically Ventus' equivalent to KH1 Sora, right? Man, that hairstyle is atrocious

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>the voice direction was better in three than two.
>but the cut scenes are twice as long so every scene becomes a drag.

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>the voice direction was better in three than two.
The fuck are you smoking?

How the fuck did Skuld become a leader, anyways? We can tell that Lauriam and Roxas became leaders because we already know their hearts are strong. I'm just going to guess Ephemer is strong despite only ever jobbing, and that he got lucky by pursuing his curiosity up to the book of propechies. Brain is a fucking mystery... But, I don't fucking remember Skuld doing jack fucking shit.

After Ava ghosted Ephemer she was the one who took over trying to solve what the actual fuck was going on with the foretellers and the darkness and shit.

With plenty being contextual and rewarding based on your specific actions.

So yes, not really the same thing.

I would assume nothing. He's right.

Then you're both high as fuck.

>>the voice direction was better in three than two.
God no. Its soooooooooo much worse especially compared to even DDD.

youtube.com/watch?v=0-zuFjI-YnU

youtube.com/watch?v=3YctG3XGXaQ

Half those fights weren't in the base game and the ones that were were so braindead easy on proud that it wasn't worth learning their mechanics.

I hope we get an expanded explanation of how Xehanort went crazy & led to events like executing his best friend.

Also why does Terranort love the word "DARKNESS"? Not even the old man liked to abuse the word in the way Terranort does.

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Stop posting. This shit is Days tier trash youtube.com/watch?v=mQXbLghLM5I

What the fuck is that supposed to mean? Why pick one specific clip out of a thousand of characters saying dumb shit and say, "The voice direction is bad," based on just that? What about the new fucking Nort? Dude's some old Japanese guy who takes his decisive way of speaking and makes it sound more like rambling nonsense on the edge of John Wayne shit.

/Thread

This design becomes 10x worse when you realize Xehanort's stupid face is peaking through the neck.

but was it?

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Also why does Riku sound so fucking horrible in this game? David's KH1-DDD performance nowhere near to the degree of robotic and stilted-ridden as his KH3 take.

holy shit that's bad

Guys, we both know which game has the true best voice acting.
youtube.com/watch?v=MUfjAv8sSBo

Oh fuck now i can't unsee, hate it now.

I would say this is some PS2 era cutscene bullshit shit but that would be a insult to the PS2

KH3’s voice actors started working on the game late in development and since KH3 was already obviously rushed you can assume they didn’t have a lot of time to sound all that great. Square in regards to KH also doesn’t allow the voice actors to see the full script so they’re really just saying random lines with no context.

It has more content than KH1 or base KH2, nostalgic retard.

God, knowing where his head is makes me wish they just reused his original Armour for a third time. It looks absolutely perfect compared to the goat head.

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based and cute pilled

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>Expanded explanation
We got all the explanation that we really need. Xehanort is someone who always wants more. That's the entire basis for his personality. He wants to leave the Destiny Islands, he wants to become a Keyblade Master, and then he wants to learn the truth behind the keyblade war. He's old, so he wants a new body to continue on with. Just toss on Luxu probably manipulating him one way or another and that's all the explanation you need. That, and DARKNESS.

Unironically this

>base release meme
You can stop posting whenever, you’re clearly not going to add anything of value

Yes

But it's the same VA's that have been with the series since 1 and 2 depending on when they started.

Anons, its time to move on to other series'. There is more to seek...

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>It has more content than KH1 or base KH2
It doesn't.

Young Xehanort's speech after getting defeated was great.

This is a BLUE board user.

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That armor is so stupid and shitty Xemnas can't even move while using it
discount keyblade armor

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>It has more content than KH1 or base KH2, nostalgic retard.
>No real tournaments
>Only 1 secret boss with only four movesets
>Original worlds severely lacking in exploration
>More content
Keep lying to yourself you degenerate corporate cocksucker.

>Disliking the edgy samurai of darkness.

>Xemnas can't even move while using it
He chooses not to dumbass.
youtube.com/watch?v=1ex4SwFxAQo

That wasn't his point at all you fucking dingus.

Not to mention how that Secret Boss is terribly designed and can easily be beaten by a chimp. KH1 unironically has better designed secret bosses.

What did he mean by this?

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Dabbing on No Heart with Aqua's best finisher was great.

That's not Xemnas' shitty armor, it's the original one, the actual keyblade armor. Read again, retard
discount keyblade armor

This was taken when they heard Isa & Lea are getting married.

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It's literally the same armor with a cape, fucknugget.

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>That armor is so stupid and shitty Xemnas can't even move while using it

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N-no you can clearly see the belts are at different angles

>different pants
>different belts
>different chest
>one is only the armor, the other is the armor in a guy that probably weights 100kg of pure muscle (Terra's chad body)
Not the same.

>(Terra's chad body)
Are you gay?

They’re exactly the same with slight differences, the meaningless cape being the biggest.

I'm gonna ignore all the reaching in that post & focus on the most important part
>Terra's chad body

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>There are people who thinks action deck is better than this

>Xion and Roxas have Sora's level of education but no more
>they are gonna join a school now (probably the same as Hayner, Pence and Olette)
>Lea and Isa will be forced to pretend to be their parents so they can attend to the school

>Lea and Isa unironically are Roxas and Xion's dads now

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Why was he so smug? Why didn't we get more of him throughout the game? I wanted more DARKNESS ramblings

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KH'3 biggest issue was the story. The entirety of the story was spent either wrapping up plot lines from previous games or setting up plot lines for future games. KH3 had absolutely no story of it's own.

On top of that the pacing of the story was terrible. The game had a fine first act and final act, but there was essentially absolutely nothing of importance in between them. Once you got to the Keyblade Graveyard the plot came at you like a runaway freight train. Everything that happened in the maze between Org XII and the Guardians of Light could have been sprinkled throughout the game as opposed to cramming it all back to back.

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Terra truly is a chad

Yeah, specifically the people who made the game. Whose bright fucking idea was it to put those retards on a full console game this time around?

>ywn have a chad like terra fuck you all night long
Why live?

This has always been how KH was.

The Disney worlds are always superficial filler.

To be the chad that Terra is then fuck yourself

Not in 1

Cosplay as Aqua. You'll find a chad eventually

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Is it just me or is Sora retarded now? He was sorta thick in 2, which fits him. But I think that Mark of Mastery test really fucked his brain up or something. He was also less expressive I think? I remember all those dumb to smug expressions he had, but I don't remember much from 3.

He became a whiny crybaby in 3 for some reason.

I think hes gotten more cocky and more trusting

Find a flaw.

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The level design.

>When Pete almost makes you cry like a bitch

Piss easy story bosses and majority of the keyblades are trash

But at least things happened in them that generally moved the plot forward. In KH1 Sora went around killing all the villains who were aligned with Maleficent. Remember them? Maleficent and her Legion of Doom were the main antagonists until Ansem entered the scene in the final act.

Even in KH2 you had the huge battle in Hollow Bastion to break the tedium. Imagine that, major plot development happening in the middle of the game. This didn't happen in KH3, where the only thing even remotely relevant to the plot in the middle happened in Monstropolis between Sora and Vanitas.

Is this true?

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I don't hate Kairi or anything but yeah I was less happy to see her then anyone else

It was supposed to be a shocking reveal that the last seeker of darkness was Terra's body but norted
>He IS their thirteen...
Which makes no sense in-universe nor for the players because in-universe Riku and Mickey already figured that Terra's body was still with the organization and IRL Master Xehanort already mentioned one of the guardians listed by Mickey in DDD (Mickey, Riku, Sora, Terra, Ventus and Aqua) was among his ranks too

Funny for me the first and middle acts are the best ones, they actually did a good job in making the disney world movies fit in the villains plan to get ready for the ending, but that final act, all the build up for everybody to job hard, and trying to put an excuse on the villain plan, now that was a disaster

Is this the worst writing in all of vidya?

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>not even dodge roll
kek

No

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Aqua and Terra are just better characters.

Sora has no personality and Kairi is a plot device.

/thread

Good advice, any tips fellow Terra enthusiast?

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It was very mediocre and unrefined. Doesn't even qualify as a fanwank due to how little time each character gets if anything it was just advertising for the mobile game and half assed advertising for disney

Lol, holy fuck no. No character>>>bad character, Aqua and Terra are genuine retards and every moment in BBS made me want to bash their heads in with a rake.

Why the Hidden Dragon hate? I never used it but was it THAT bad?

It sucks that literal clones (Xehanort, Ventus, Vanitas) ended up having the most character out of anyone in BBS

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Not really. It could just use more stuff. Right now I just want critical mode. I want all the Organization team fights to be a real challenge. I had a lot of fun with them and the Seekers of Darkness.

>shows up for one scene and vanishes into the aether with no explanation

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>Riku: that's my man, bitch

No, but it was far too easy

If you think that kh1 is better than kh3 you should open up twitch and stream killing yourself.

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>Doesn't play level 1 on Proud Mode
>"It's too easy!"

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There's a reason you, and everyone else didn't use it, user

>Single handily saves the Jobbers of Light from getting killed AGAIN
Based & Ragepilled

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>people still circlejerk him as being useful even though he did nothing for over 10 years

He just went into the guardian

>Terra fights Xehanort
>Xehanort puts his heart and mind into Terra (his body goes to the limbo), Terra's mind is expulsed, Terra-Xehanort is born
>Terra's soul moves to other place, the armor, Lingering Will is born. Terra-Xehanort puts Terra's body in the guardian so Terra can't fight back
>in KH3 the Lingering Will in the armor fights Terra-Xehanort for a while, then moves to the guardian
>the Lingering Will in the guardian attacks Xehanort and places his heart in his body again, vanishing Xehanort's body and mind. The Lingering Will vanishes too as Terra's mind just returns to the body too

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>Wishing death upon those who disagree with you
KH3 copers are pathetic. KH1 just has more to offer it’s not your fault that’s the case, you’re free to like an objectively worse game.

>the hardest difficulty was intentionally made to be easy
>level 1 meme difficulty fixes it
Big cope and no it doesn’t. Level 1 proud is just as easy the only difference being is if you’re retarded and just mindlessly spam X you will die. You have keyblade leveling, food, kupo coin, and all important abilities handed to you early on. KH3 level 1 isn’t difficult.

Why the fuck does everyone have thirty fucking charts for this shit? Just stick to one for fuck's sake.

How does Yea Forums feel about the 3 highest stated bosses were (according to the ultemania):
>Master Xehanort
>Vanitas
>Terranort
In that order. My problem with this is that the incomplete Vanitas was somehow stronger then Ansem & Mansex.

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the only defense kh3 dickriders have is "you can not compare kh3 to the final mix version of other better games". imagine if a new rts came out and its defenders said "you can not say this game is inferior to brood war you must only compare it to the original starcraft you must wait for this game to get an expansion pack before you point out all the ways brood war is better". that would be retarded.
2FM has good bosses. 2FM has great bosses. 2FM has lingering will. 2FM has data organization fights. Kingdom Hearts 3 has two humanoid boss fights that are pretty fun but every other boss in the game is absolute dogshit. Kingdom Hearts 3 makes you fight demon tide too many times. 2FM is better than KH3.

Making charts is relaxing

/thread

What a braindead chart, user you shouldn’t make/post this shit if you don’t know what’s going on. LW doesn’t move to the Guardian, Nomura states in an interview that LW vanished please for the love of god keep up.

Will do, might also help me not be burned out on these games

Should have added that Xion was the weakest out of all Organization rehash

>KH1 just has more to offer
[citation needed]

>Tournaments
>Secret bosses
>Better synthesis
>Clock Tower
>Minigames
>Grinding to level 100
>Collectibles
>Worlds full of life and things to do

I mean, believe me I know, but this seems unnecessary.

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Well she's only fought for a couple seconds, whereas Saix has to go solo against three Soras.

>Organization rehash
Say that to me and my faces & see what happens

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Isn’t Saix, in berserk mode, stronger than Vanitas?

Like what the hell is this list

>highest stated bosses
What do you mean by that? The 3 strongest story-wise? I guess that kinda makes sense, if you look at the numer of HP bars each boss has in the war, with the exception of Saix that has 17 (probably because it was a 3vs1?) the number of HP fits with the strength of their members in the story
>Luxord (special because he fights with tricks and games, no brute strength) < Xigbar (7 bars) < Larxene, Young Xehanort, Repliku, Xion (8) < Marluxia, Ansem, Xemnas (9) < Vanitas, Terra-Xehanort (13)

I guess the strength order should be
>Master Xehanort
>Terra-Xehanort
>Vanitas
>Ansem =/= Xemnas
>Marluxia
>Xion =/= Repliku
>young Xehanort
>Saix =/= Larxene?
>Xigbar
>Luxord

After this shit show of a game he became my favorite Nort, he was a complete asshole not only story wise but gameplay also
fucking mysterious figure and DDD fight is aids

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At least he's optional in BBS. The MANDATORY fight with this faggot in DDD was harder than most superbosses in the series.

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>LW doesn’t move to the Guardian
Read the journal

>Nomura states in an interview that LW vanished
But that's exactly what I said, retard.
>"The Lingering Will vanishes too as Terra's mind just returns to the body too"

Seek help but nice taste anyway

See A quick off the head list of things KH1 has the offer that’s better than KH3. I can go in depth and talk about the story/gameplay or even more that I just didn’t add to the list, but you get the picture and I just wanted to say things that KH1 does better post.

>KH2: Don't even fight half of them.
I have bad news for you in the form of these two words. 'Final Mix'

>KH2: More padding
going through old worlds to make way for the new ones to seal their keyholes.
While in 3, you mess around for no reason at all other than to get the power you had inside you from the start.

The End

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>Read the journal
the journal never states LW went inside and took control of the Guardian, if you can show me it saying exactly that I’ll concede completely. But then again I wouldn’t be saying this if I knew I wasn’t right.

>"The Lingering Will vanishes too as Terra's mind just returns to the body too"
It’s never good to layer your headcanons like this. LW never went inside of Guardian, and LW is never said to have returned to Terra. Vanishing is completely different from returning inside of someone, if that was what Nomura was trying to get at he would’ve said so. No need to be vague when the game itself is already vague enough on the topic.

>Q: Please tell us the reason the command system is similar to the one in KH2.
>A: Initially, there was the idea to have a command deck like in KH3D, but Nomura instructed us to base the system around the one in KH2. There's a sense of playfulness we adopted into the battle system that is unlike [those in] KH1 and KH2, but for this production I wanted the style to have a simple approach.
Nomura literally had to stop the hacks from using the command deck again. WTF is wrong with this team?

>twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqqsqt

They ought to be shot

KH3 would’ve unironically been better if they used the Command Deck only because that’s what they’ve always used. However fans wouldn’t have liked that was the original KH1-2-Days format is the best, and it would show the break away from something everyone loves.

I wish they did use it. give me my raging storm nomura

>KH1-2-Days format
>Days
Uh... user?

>if you can show me it saying exactly that
>exactly
Hey look is the retard that denies it because "n-no it didn't mean that I promise"

>LW never went inside of Guardian
Except for the part when it did.

>Vanishing is completely different from returning inside of someone
I never said the LW entered Terra's body, learn to read. LW is Terra's mind manifested outside his body so when Terra's mind returns to Terra's body the entity known as "LW" just vanishes.

>no need to be vague
>in a KH game
KEK
What's next? Saying LW isn't Terra? Fucking retard

Obviously meant for

Replied to the wrong guy, but Days also uses the same style as KH1 and KH2 albeit with a different system at its core (Days was designed by the Tokyo Team fyi).

Days was developed by H.A.N.D

Recoded*

Also:
>The great damage as a result of being erased as a member of Organization XIII": This is talking about the part in KH CoM where Axel uses his flames to burn and destroy Vexen. When a Nobody is defeated by an attack, their recompleted body suffers the damage.
So when your Nobody destroyed by an attack the original body suffers the damage according to Nomura. Why don't we see more of this damage in game to the reformed members?

>twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqqv2q

They developed that one too

Tokyo Team worked on Days
Osaka Team worked on Recoded

It was good not great.

No H.A.N.D did both of them

I was thankful in pre-ordering DMC5 over KH3. Capcom actually delivered some of my expectations. I ended up just borrowing KH3 from my hardcore KH friend who was also dissapointed.

>h.a.n.d made the game by themselves
You’re a special one, Square had outside help but they also worked on them games themselves. If you don’t know then why are you trying to argue that I’m wrong?

>Days also uses the same style as KH1 and KH2
>albeit with a different system at its core
>a different system at its core
The mission system alone puts it nowhere near similar to 1 or 2.

They were the main developers on the titles, if you're attempting to argue differently then you're outing yourself as not knowing what you're talking about.

It's better than DDD and Birth By Sleep, but everything after 2 is cancer unless you're a die hard fan.

(You) can do better than that.

What does the journal say that proves LW went inside of Guardian that also goes against Nomura’s own words? :^)

LW vanishing =/= returning to Terra

Axels stats in KH3

1/?

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It's why Even and Dilan took so much longer to recover than Lea, Aeleus and Ienzo.

>when you cast away your body to possess someone your body goes to a limbo
>then if you turn into a nobody and reform, you will return to your original body like nothing happened but the victim will be a body without heart, waiting for you to possess it again
You know that makes sense considering coded secret movie, Braig (Luxu) was already awake when the others were still sleeping after being reformed, why? Why was him the only awakened? Because he just returned to his original-self (Luxu), possessed Braig's body again and pretended he just awakened while the others were still sleeping.

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We’re talking about the combat system. Which is just like KH1 and KH2 other than the system that allows you to change everything (levels, # items, keyblades, modifiers, etc).

>no u
Pathetic

>They were the main developers on the titles
Moving the goalpost I see. Tokyo Team worked on Days and Osaka worked on Recoded, if you can prove me wrong feel free to. But I accept your concession

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@454027564
>keeps pretending Terra's mind returning to Terra translated to "LW returned to Terra" after being explained it's the opposite
>keeps pretending the journal didn't say LW was fighting from the insides
>keeps pretending LW going inside the guardian and then vanishing goes against Nomura's words when he only said LW vanished when Terra returned
>probably pretends LW isn't Terra too in other discussions
Not even a (You) for you

>Which is just like KH1 and KH2
>other than the system that allows you to change everything
Well then it's not just like KH1 and KH2 is it?

Yes
The writing in KH3 was awful

Except it is? I take it you never played Days

>then if you turn into a nobody and reform, you will return to your original body like nothing happened but the victim will be a body without heart, waiting for you to possess it again
Actually that's only because Terranort still had both hearts inside him at the moment of Nobodification. It's safe to assume Luxu makes absolutely sure the other faggot's heart is gone when he possesses someone.

I just finished it again shortly before 3, it's nothing like 1 and 2.

Another reason why i have zero faith in the Final Mix DLC.

Besides the balance issues with some magic spells, lvl 1 chip damage on proud, and situation and not being able to dismiss unwanted situation commands, I think Sora/whoever is playable just needs to be invulnerable during his physical combos. I know that some finishers already have invul.

>keeps pretending Terra's mind returning to Terra translated to "LW returned to Terra" after being explained it's the opposite
Making stuff up.
>keeps pretending the journal didn't say LW was fighting from the insides
It didn’t.
>keeps pretending LW going inside the guardian and then vanishing goes against Nomura's words.
It’s does. This one I’ll expand on just to crush your headcanon even more. Nomura himself says LW along with the armor vanished, if he went inside of Guardian that wouldn’t have happened as how would it vanish? This is probably the point that broke you into crying about how (You)s matter.
>probably pretends LW isn't Terra too in other discussions
LW is said to be Terra’s lingering thoughts separate from his own, so he is Terra to an extent. Just like how Roxas in a way is Sora.

>Not even a (You) for you
I accept your concession.

Well you’re the same guy crying about the mission mode so no shit you think the combat is different.

this series is trash stop playing it now

>crying about the mission mode
You mean how I proved your statement wrong that Days is anything like 1 or 2? Yeah, I guess that is me, and I guess you agree I'm right.

I shouldn't have to do that on a first playthrough to get any difficulty

I haven't been moving goalposts at all, if anything I'm able to actually prove that they're the ones who were put in charge of the brunt of the development, what can you do? Bitch more because you're talking out of your ass?

khinsider.com/news/Days-Planning-Team-Interview-923
>So was h.a.n.d. in charge of the actual work in development?

>Hasegawa: Yes. The movies with voices were mostly in the charge of the Kingdom Hearts II staff, keeping the emphasis on motion work. But including the sound and supervision staff only about 10 people were regularly involved in development, with the rest left to h.a.n.d. When Nomura (Tetsuya Nomura, director) first told us, "Let's make three KH titles for the DS, PSP and mobile phone at the same time," concepts for each title were being prepared. At the core of this both companies were coming out with ideas, and consolidating the project while experimenting with them. h.a.n.d. is a company based in Sapporo, but we were constantly having face-to-face planning conferences, and in the final stages of development Ito and Sato went to Sapporo for long periods to work on the project.

khinsider.com/news/Re-coded-Ultimania-Director-Interview-Scans-1798
>So it was after deciding to work with h.a.n.d. that it became a 3D remake?

>Nomura: Yes. I think if it had been with another company the thought wouldn’t have crossed our minds, but we knew that h.a.n.d. was highly capable since working with them on 358/2 Days.?When we first asked, we said,“Remake it roughly as it is.” After that, the volume wasn’t full yet so we changed to say, “Do it in full 3D and put in the panel system arrangement from Days”. Despite this, taking away the time it took to actually produce the remake, the development period took about a year to complete. The developers from h.a.n.d. said it was nearly impossible, but they gave it their best.

You’re one daft cunt. Days’ combat is just like KH1 and KH2, it’s the closet to that style out of any game since 2. The only difference is the system that allows you to change and modify everything to your heart’s content. No one is arguing Days is KH1 or KH2, three completely different games that all do different things. Stop making yourself look like a retard who struggles to read basic English.

>Tokyo Team worked on Days
Okay what are you arguing?

God, DDD had far better written interactions and VA its depressing they stopped giving a shit afterwards.

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>Days’ combat is just like KH1 and KH2
It isn't
>it’s the closet to that style out of any game since 2
Lol no, even BBS is closer. Just because it doesn't have the command deck doesn't actually make it anything like 1 or 2.

Why was Joshua so gay and based?

More Nomura interviews:

Q: No characters from the Final Fantasy series appear in KH3, can you tell us the reason for that?
>A: Put simply, they just couldn't be accommodated. There are too many characters that appear in the main story, so as a result the appearance of FF characters wasn't able to be prepared. Technically, polygon models were created for Leon (and some others). Apart from Leon, some other characters, like the Fairy Godmother from Cinderella, were made, but in the end they just weren't able to be used, which made some of the production staff angry.

>Q: I'm intrigued as to what's inside the Black Box...
A: Everyone is asking about it, but it's the key to what comes next. As the Master of Masters says in Back Cover, "it's a surpri---se!" [laughs]

>Q: Is the place Sora is in the same world as the one in The World Ends With You?
A: It looks that way. However, rather than saying Sora has gone to the TWEWY world, the meaning is that it's not exactly Shibuya, but ~Shibuya~ (note: this is hard to explain in English, but instead of it being written in kanji, the name for "Shibuya" is written in katakana here. This basically means it's not the same Shibuya as in TWEWY or in the real world.) Also, although Sora promised Neku and his friends that they would meet again in Shibuya, this video is not connected to that.

>Q: In the last scene, who is the person in the black robe making a heart shape towards the moon?
A: That's the Master of Masters. He's the only one who would do such a silly thing looking like that [laughs].

Source:
twitlonger.com/show/n_1sqqtbb

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Something looked wrong with Sora's face in DDD, I don't know if it's those extra lines around the outer bottom of his eyes but he looked like a downy.

Clearly unfinished but still alright. 7/10

>Also, although Sora promised Neku and his friends that they would meet again in Shibuya, this video is not connected to that.
I AM GOING TO BURN NOMURA TO ASH

>Lol no, even BBS is closer
We’re talking about the C-O-M-B-A-T. Tell me how Days’ combat is different from KH1/2

>[raughs] the post
fucking nomura

>This basically means it's not the same Shibuya as in TWEWY or in the real world.) Also, although Sora promised Neku and his friends that they would meet again in Shibuya, this video is not connected to that.
Fucking yes, don’t drag the TWEWY into this shitshow

>13 years in the making
>Still unfinished
How does he keep getting away with it?

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Nostalgia whipped fanbase

Real talk after that shameless butchered garbage that was the Switch port i genuinely hope SE never bothers with raping TWEWY again. I'm still fucking mad.

years in the making
No

You can only stock so many uses of magic, meaning that depending on your loadout space you likely won't even have every spell on hand. There's no real combo modifiers or finishers, each keyblade just has a different number of (air) combo plus. You can't even carry everything you find, even with the biggest backpack you'll find yourself tossing items to make room for synth pieces in later missions. No summons, no forms, no limits except for the low health mode. Need I go on?

Reminder that it was 7 years and one of those years was wasted because luminous engine is a piece of shit. Also, they're throwing on some finishing touch DLC so it's at least a "GOTY edition" level of unfinished. If you get what I mean.

Bad? No.

Clearly unfinished and rushed out the door? Absolutely.

>I'm still fucking mad.
It's unironically the same problem I had with KH3. Not even a full week's worth of new story content, barely even 3 days, only like 10 new pins, and a fucking "buy more games goyim, oh but it'll only be made if this one does well anyway so you niche loving faggots will never actually see the resolution to this" cliffhanger.

You should learn what the expression means. Nomura had plans for KH3 since KH2 and everything after KH2 was just building up for KH3. Actual development time was half that.

(You)

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Lol the combat is press x until you win. But that would be too hard to the game's target audience, so they added a feature where literally every fucking thing you do triggers the "Press triangle to win even quicker" event.