How do we save Valkyria Chronicles?

yeah its a fun game but it lacks depth compared to other srpgs (desu thats an issue with like 90% of them for me)

Remaster VC3

More Raita.

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Based

They went full anime in VC2. And it was awful. Even anime fags didn't like that game.

She would have back problems

It's okay user, she isn't real. The huge tits aren't hurting anyone.

This series is being declared dead with every new game since VC2. And look. It's still there.

This meme imply women can't exercise in order to reduce or eliminate this problem
And I believe it.

This. But the word you're looking for is remake, a remaster is taking original game and replacing them with new HD assets. It would still be a PSP game at heart, unless you do a remake.

Valkyria Chronicles 4 killed the series, for sure. The sales for it are abysmal. Should have let the player picked Kai or Minerva as their wife instead of Riley blondeshit.

Crowdfund so Raita can raise enough money to buy the Valkyria Chronicles IP from SEGA.

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Selvaria porn. A lot of it.

>Should have let the player picked Kai or Minerva as their wife instead of Riley blondeshit.
While this is a shame, this isn't why I didn't buy 4.

>Pick kai or minerva over riley
Not disagreeing, but is this really the reason sales were bad? The japs probably put riley at the top because they froth at the mouth for the childhood friend trope

Make it waifu simulator, like vc3

Something VC needs to sort out if it continues is a better distinction between its real-time and its turn-based components. Stuff like 'you can take damage for literally standing still doing nothing/hit by the rest of an attack while aiming' and 'you can get knocked out of position when you've already started aiming by a mortar' are kind of issues. Just make it so game logic is paused while stationary or something and you'd at least have a slicker and smoother overall experience. It's a little niggle but I finally put my finger on it during VC4.

Mine are bigger and i don't have back problems

what the fuck
I have VC4 and I didnt even know it
I should stop using my PC so fucking drunk

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She wouldn't because she's not a weak bitch like you.
She's pure and innocent, basically what I'm saying is kill yourself.

VC1, serious with some minor anime jank.
VC2, anime jank with a wasted background civil war story. Selvaria-esque replacement dies too, WTF.
VC3, grimdark IDK I have not played it.
VC Revolution, this is what started the path towards VC going to the grave.
VC4, PC denuvo DR + delaying DLC for said PC release. Expecting Xbros to play the 4th game with neither 1, 2, or 3 ever playable on the Xbox 1. Taking a step back from VC3's choose your wife and going back to the default one but the default one Riley fucking sucks shit compared to Kai/Minerva. Releasing it in the busy month of September in between weeb game of the month Dragon Quest 11 and normiecore Spiderman PS4 was the kiss of death.

F. F especially for the newfriends who bought Valkyria Revolution. God, I'd be so embarrassed if I had worked on Revolution.

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is something as embarrassing as the pig from VC1 in VC4?

It's honestly baffling how better 3 is than 4.

VC still has a lot of problems though.
>Rank is still mostly based on clear speed, instead of other factors
>Still never fixed the "reinforcements" problem, which is honestly annoying as there is no tell when there will be more to come or if it's another mission entirely.

This usually fucks your game especially if you rushed to capture something.

>Start mission, can do it in likely 3 turns
>After strategizing,, can probably do it in barely 2 turns which will probably give a better rank
>Finally did it, whoops, now let me just spawn 2 tanks, 1 boss tank, 7 enemy units, and it's our turn.

Fuck you game.

No. VC4 has a dope dog medic and no anime mascot. One throwaway like of dialog mentions porkavians though

Revolution is just the most inexplicable fucking thing.
1 and 4 on Switch are nice though, the games are super nice ports.

>but is this really the reason sales were bad?
As a series "veteran" i tried to look at 4 from the POV of someone who never heard of VC.
The first alienating factor is the 4 in the game's name, which means you probably should play the previous entries beforehand since there will be obvious references/homages to them that will go over your head. In Japan the game is called VC4: The Eastern Front IIRC and had the worldwide release ditched the number 4 it would have surely attracted more people and made the game independent from 1,2 and 3.
The second problem is SEGA not embracing the QoL and gameplay improvements from 2 and 3 and basically making VC1 again, which let's be honest had the worst gameplay in the series.
The third problem was the long wait for the worlwide release, because by that time plenty of spoilers have leaked and most people went off the hype train. What also doesn't help is that the dub sucks ass

I hope they'd turn a new left in the VC world and make a game centered about Fhirald's reclaiming their own country after EWII

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>Rank is still mostly based on clear speed, instead of other factors
I can't even describe how much i hate it. they give you game but you must rush it for the best results.

VC4 was in a Humble Bundle Monthly Bundle some months ago

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>grimdark IDK I have not played it.
VC3 had the same tone as VC1 and VC4, though.
The only "grimdark" part of it were the constant village massacres by the Empire or Annika's episode where a rebel gallian squad massacred an entire village, even the children for literally no reason

It's also just counter to good strategy and makes it almost impossible to get a decent score the first time around because you inch forward, since you don't want to trigger a bunch of new enemies or a new event on your last move. A better score should come from mastery of mechanics, not just memorization of levels.

Fun fact: The game was oringially supposed to be an RTS

I wish there was perma-death for important characters so I could run Minerva at some huge tank and watch her die.

>choose your wife and going back to the default one but the default one Riley fucking sucks shit compared to Kai/Minerva.
I hate this narration that every MC in any game should be self-insert of the player.

rushing also usually involves just having a bunch of people be bait and in the middle of bleed out while you finish the mission. the optimal way to play the game feels awful, it'd be like if the best way to get the highest rank in an action game was to take a bunch of damage and use lots of items

Valkyria Chronicles: Battle Royale!
Where you can customize your own buckethead cutie soldier and last 2 remaining players duel with valkyria lances.
Tell me it wouldn't sell

Otakus will get triggered if it's not set up like that.

Fucking this. I want to not get punished for taking a few turns to completely outmanuever my enemies.

The ranking system just basically boils it down to two action for every map in the game

Rush through the map or remove the obstacles preventing you from rushing the map.

They had 4 games to fix this. Jesus.

Too late, this franchise is an accumulation of retarded decisions from the management, going from switching to a dead console in the west when said west was where you sold the most at the start, to spending 3 games out of 4 talking about the same conflict you already know the outcome and main events of since the very first game.

This is just hearsay/educated guess but from what I can understand Valkyria Revoluion started as a PS4 exclusive until SEGA management playtested and were like "wow, this is shockingly bad, put out a demo and see if people will like it, if they do we'll dig down and fix it". So the initial PS4 demo comes out and good God, it was torn to pieces by the Japanese and the foreigners who gave impressions. The game just didn't feel like a tactical game at all, so with this feedback SEGA reworked the demo and launched VC Revolution demo 2.0.

For a console company like SEGA/Nintendo/Namco to put out 'updated demos' of the next flagship game it's unheard of for an old timer like me. Usually these back and forth demo update things are by indie devs or first time IPs (usually multiplayer). So that was my 2nd red flag, VC Revolution was getting a semi-hyped by SEGA PR demo. The first red flag was obviously looking Dynasty Warriors derivative. Anyhow, 2nd demo comes out and its the same as the final game, it feels stilted and not neither a true button masher like Mushou/Warriors nor a strategical game like Valkyria Chronicles.

This is the point where SEGA's top brass saw the sink cost on the project and bailed out, they demanded multiplatform release starting with the Vita. And this is just -IMO- but around this time Microsoft was paying off a lot of Japanese studios to port their weeb stuff to the Xbox One, namely Namco, but I get the feeling Microsoft also paid for the Xbox One port of Valkyria Revolution. Getting the extra funds meant they had to ship the game as it was, get it out the door stop trying to fix what's wrong with the core tenets. It's just a boring game and the cutscenes (which are lacking) are hilarious in some scenes like the ending with the monarch talking to a crowd of 5 NPCs and I bet there's one doing a T-pose. It's not that interesting of an analysis.

tldr; Game demo was bad, 2nd demo was bad, SEGA took the L on this one.

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Return the classes sub system from valkyrie chronicles two and increase both the size of the map and the number of units deployed and and focusing on finishing objectives in the mission instead of rushing and capturing the enemy base

The weirdest part is that the XCOM reboot ran into this same issue, solved it cleverly THEN RUINED IT IN THE SEQUEL. EU had this problem where even after changing the movement system to force you to commit more, players hung back and played safe rather than exciting. So the expansion pack, Enemy Within, introduced a new resource, 'meld', tied to all the cool new mechanics, namely making mutants and mecha. The catch was that the canisters containing this on maps needed to be collected inside a few turns, so if you took your time you missed out. This gave players an incentive to play more aggressively and a reward for doing so, rather than a punishment for playing smart. It was opportunity cost rather than directly reducing your reward to play slower. Really slick solution and it slotted nicely into an existing game.

Then XCOM 2 came and put every single mission on a timer, always. They had an excellent solution and rather than iterate on it, they just tried to force you to play fast and dumb. It's the most frustrating fucking thing when you're being FORCED to make what you know is a bad decision because of a fairly arbitrary arm-twisting.
Hang on, so what state did VR first get announced in? I wasn't following the franchise at the time.

>Return the Class bloat from VC2
Nigger that's the worst idea i have heard in those threads. The class and leveling model should be taken from 3, where it was simple, straightforward and flexible with only Armor Techs and Fencers being useless

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More milfs.

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When the MC is a blank-slate, milk toast character like Claude, it's no wonder people expect dating sim elements. What's the point of making a character with self-insert properties if they're not going to be a self-insert?

It's amazing how Raita's characters actually get sexier when they have MORE clothes on.

>elite ranger unit, cream of the military crop
>troops have such great attributes as: poor weapon maintenance, doesn't like guns, and pacifist

Valkyria Revolution (2016-2017):
PS4 exclusive reveal-->Demo--->Demo feedback acknowledged and Vita version announced--->2nd demo goes out and Xbox One version announced.

The timeline aligns with Phil Spencer traveling to Japan to get as many JPN games on the Xbox One. Code Vein, Monster Hunter World, Okami HD, Sword Art Online, DB Fighter Z, One Piece games, etc. A lot of them didn't sell well, but I my headcanon is Microsoft fronted up the cash for the Xbox One port. The Wii U exclusive Sonic Boom was ported to the PC and yet Valkyria Revolution has never been released on PC, despite how similar the PS4 and X1 are to modern PCs. It's THAT bad for the brand that SEGA just stopped trying to make it a thing.

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That's hardly unique to him.

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>Then XCOM 2 came and put every single mission on a timer, always

Yeah, I haven't bought XCOM 2 because of this. I watched Marc Brown from GamerMaker Toolkit talk about this in one of his videos, the developers aren't changing their mind about this so I'm not buying XCOM 2. Fucking retarded timers, to think they doubled down on a feature that pissed people off enough to write negative reviews (despite otherwise enjoying the game if not for said timers).

Absolutely

>only Armor Techs and Fencers being useless
I never played 3, why were they so bad? The melee units were absolutely broken as fuck in 2 since maps were so small.

I really love the idea of a timer since slowly progressing while spamming overwatch is so fucking boring and was the best way to play 1, but the problem is that all the timers are just 1 or 2 turns too short. Just install a mod that disables or increases them

By buying the fucking games

If they want us to play more aggressively they need to fix the fundamental flaws in their design rather than just jabbing the player with a stick. How about you do something about aliens getting a free turn the moment I discover them, potentially giving them two in a row if I trigger a cell on the last move of a turn?

Minerva hentai

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>there are people in this thread who would unironically rather marry a cuntish asshole who hates you than the qt childhood friend that you more or less briefly raised a kid with

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Riley's cute and I kind of enjoy the absurdity of her making her military uniform 'cuter', but god she's a moron.
NO, KAI IS NOT A SECRET FEDDIE AGENT. READ THE MOTHERFUCKING ROOM.

Gigantic asses.

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>Raz never got to tap this

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Based Minervabro. Marriage DLC with Minerva or Kai /when/.

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So how did their drill sergeant never work it out from her figure?

How did no one figure it out from her giant fucking titties?

Raz was an annoying piece of fucking shit.
I enjoyed sending him and his gay buttbuddy to their deaths.

Because these games' stories require their characters to be retarded.

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stop having these problematic escenes

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Her ass isn't even big.
>Kai
>giant tits
are you retarded

No, I just have eyes nigga.

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Honestly. I always the thought the answer was just giving VC a second shot as a console title but considering how VC 4 fared, that wasn't the solution.

Thought, Sega barely advertises any of their titles that isn't Sonic.

The scene where Claude sends Raz to his death for the greater good really shocked me, I had no idea the game would suddenly turn that dark out of nowhere. Such a shame too since Kai was obviously going to fuck him at that point

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I don't think they realized the importance of VC1 being an early PS3 exclusive in the game's profile. It was for a couple of years, one of the titles people held up as 'dude the PS3 gets all the good Japanese stuff', combined with an interesting premise and unusual style. It set it up well for the PC release years later, which predictably sold great because it was a solid port at the right price with plenty of word of mouth recognition. That wasn't going to magically happen for 4 when they just dumped it out on the market.
I also have reservations over the Switch port often retailing for MORE than the other version but that's neither here nor there.

>those are "giant" to him
You must be a manlet or something

t. virgin

>How do we save Valkyria Chronicles?
We can't since 4 underperformed so hard. I loved the first game when it came out, but like a lot of others I completely glossed over 2 and 3. I didn't even realize a 4th game came out until a few months after it was released. The huge gap between the two console titles is what likely killed it, and if not killed, still hurt it dang hard.

Let's talk about the real important question lads.

Kill/Marry/Fuck

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Marry fug kill

>t.plebbitor that brings his 3DPD logic garbage to 2D girls
They're fucking shit tier compared to 100% superior Valkyria breasts.
Gas darcsen and darcsen lover scum.

Let's not pretend VC4 was this AAA budget game. The game reuses a lot of VC1 assets, animations, and it doesn't have many cutscenes (that aren't the still text back and forth images). The game had many problems at face value for non-core gamers to get into, there's lots of angles to talk about why VC4 was a sales disaster. Number one being not being able to pick Minerva or Kai as your main heroine. Monster Hunter World (a series never big outside of Japan) was the big sales success internationally and it had a budget, equating VC4 to a high production like that is just IDK. VC4 was very much on a strict budget with a bad release schedule, I don't think it going to handheld damaged the brand; not as much as Valkyria Revolution anyhow.

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Marry Riley because she is perfect wife material
Fuck Minerva because the hate sex would be amazing
Kill Minerva because she's still a cunt

I like to think that after the events of the game; (you), Kai, Riley, and Minerva engage is a 4-person relationship from that point onward.

Marry Fuck Murder.

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Is the VC1 port on Switch good?

Sure
But aside from Crymaria she must be the biggest girl in the game. And she's not a darcsen.

I like to think that while Claude, Riley, and Minerva were on the bridge at the end of the game, Minerva sat there miserable and jealous as Claude and Riley fucked like rabbits in the other room.

Claude didn't deserve Minerva anyways.

tried reading a raita doujin once and it had this weird fucking obsession with stretching out eyelids and putting your dick in them and shit

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Raita's art is best enjoyed filtered through more competent artists.

She's still darcsen loving scum and needs a good gassing.

I'm straight, but Claude is a fucking 10/10 hunk in all categories: looks, intelligence, charisma, bravery, the man is a fucking legend and every straight woman in the entire fucking continent of "not europe" should be creaming their goddamn panties at the sight of him.

>VC1, serious with some minor anime jank.
If 1 is minor anime jank then I really don't want to see what happened after it. By the point everyone started turning into mahou shoujo powered by some ancient magitech bullshit I dropped it.

Don't cripple it with Denuvo next time

>a mary sue is a 10/10 on all fronts
that's the problem

That doesn't sound like him, raita is vanilla as fuck.

you sound like a massive fucking fruit and claude is a shit tier boring fucking character

I didn't mind timers when the mission was to enter guns blazing and complete an objective.
But the timer counting down even though,
>Stealthed
>your squad hasn't been spotted by enemies
>the debriefing specifically states that the enemy is completely clueless to your presence and have not mobilized
Really rubbed me the wrong way.
I was also disappointing that engaging on a pod and eleminating them during your turn didn't keep you in stealth for a little longer until HQ tried to check in with the pod later.

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Yes, just safe often for VC1. VC4 Switch has framerate drops for the DLC.

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Selvaria is made for breeding

More Marina

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That's the thing, they overused it and didn't even try to tie it into the structure. I get the idea of being a covert outfit with limited windows to operate in when things go loud or having the occasional time-sensitive mission. I don't get every single mission starting the countdown from the moment I land, no matter the objective or alert status.

It's the PS3 version ported and running at a higher resolution like the PC version, rather than a port of the PS4 edition. I'm honestly not sure what the changes are so I don't know how important that is or isn't.

based Lilyfriend
best girl in the series

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These absolute demons were wasted potential.

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Absolutely made for RECONDITIONING

i Think they should add a class tree so you can have different scouts for example for different purposes one for spotting enemies and one for capturing bases and so on add both building and destruction elements for example you can make the engineers set-up a radio or spotlights in enemy bases and deploy shock troopers to protect them get and of course the eningeer could be split into communication engineer for building the radio or construction engineer for building Baracks
And the most important getting rid of the turns score system to an objective one like the number of enemies killed numbers of camap captured number of tanks destroyed and taking points away with the numbers of ally and camps you lost

> In Japan the game is called VC4: The Eastern Front IIRC and had the worldwide release ditched the number 4 it would have surely attracted more people and made the game independent from 1,2 and 3.
People in the West would've considered it disrespectful to call a weeb pseudo-WWII game "The Eastern Front", since it's a very on-the-nose reference to the Germany-USSR front.

They could've gone for something that at least evoked it a little. 'Winter Assault' or something, point is that '4' hurt it when it's not really 4 in the sense most people would assume.

git gud

>that arm
Jesus fucking christ, and you niggers fight over a shirt on this skeletron. Absolutely harem.

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So you need the opposing force and beach episode DLCs for that, right?
Asking for a friend.

>Hear how good Valkyria Chronicles is
>Buy it on PS3
>Never play it
>Years later and it releases on PC
>Buy it on PC
>Never play it

It's currently 50% on Switch, right now.
Should I buy it?

You're on your pc now, why not quit shitposting on Yea Forums and play it?

that's a myth, the only women that report back problems because of big breasts are also morbidly obese

Switch is comfy as fuck for strategy, it's a good platform for it. You already have it twice over though so maybe play one of those versions.

Yeah. Of course you don't need the beach one if you don't care about swimsuits.

It's real on skinny girls too, but they have to be pretty massive.

Are there still people working in a complete translation of VC3?

really?
Well, let's hope lelic make that into reality

I kinda wish you (and the enemy) had fewer command points and deployed fewer people at a time so that you went back and forth through turns faster
VC4 was the first one I played and I'm at chapter 18 now but it just feels so tedious going through like 12 command points
not even sure if I want to get the two valkyria DLC afterwards

that said, the pic of nikola and chiara sitting on kai and riley's faces is pretty good and redeems most of the game's faults

Just play the PC version. The first few levels are comfy as fuck.

>if you don't care about swimsuits.
Right. So both DLCs it is then.

i liked how the timer was executed in Invisible Inc., where the more you waited, the more cameras/guards would become active, and so the game is a careful balance between carefully planned out waiting and a mad dash to the objective and back

>that said, the pic of nikola and chiara sitting on kai and riley's faces is pretty good and redeems most of the game's faults
Go on

Troopers are always the best

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just search one of the boorus

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They too OP in 4

Minerva is such a useless bitch. I just want to hateassfuck her.

Selvaria a hooker.

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Change that hack of an artist to someone else.

I'd rent her.

>anime as a pejorative
Stop this, reddit.

I finished the first game last week, it was great. I'll be sure to pick up 4 when it goes on sale again. Is VC 3 really that long? Seems like it's twice the length of eveery other game.

I've grown to love Raita to death (his male designs are underrated) but I wonder if the art causes a Xenoblade 2 situation where people avoid it due to the artstyle.

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you're a literal homosexual if you can't appreciate raita-san's aesthetics

vc threads exist in an alternate universe where people don't think raita sucks so good luck with that opinion

Which VC girls are best for anal?

>Is VC 3 really that long?
Yes and you see new maps after like 80 hours (although everything will be new to you if you skip VC2, which you should definitly skip)
It was a great game anyway

Seething

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>muh Kai/Minerva ending
Months later and you're still seething, huh? Fucking waifufag loser

aoife is wife material

Until you do her squad story

3 is by far the longest and hardest.

Who'd you pick for chapter 16? I sent Millennia to her husband, no regrets.

Rosetta. He seemed like the type that'd volunteer

September was DQ11 month for me, but if VC4 had regional pricing, I would have bought it too. VC4 is 50% more expensive than DQ11 for me, that is a big flat NOPE from me.

Marry fuck kill

I only have a basic grasp of their personalities but left seems moretolerable than right.

I've only ever read the mahou shoujo ones and I remember thinking that he got too intrusive with the X rays.

Does VC3 have newgame plus? I'd at least like to download a save to cut back on the skirmish grinding.

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>Does VC3 have newgame plus? I'd at least like to download a save to cut back on the skirmish grinding.

No, but when you finish the game you can access any mission that you played, and also try missions from path-choices that you didn't play.
There are also quite a lot of post-game only missions, some of them part of the story, some of them just random hard missions.

Increase the need to use different units, you pretty much can use the same 10 units in every battle and be fine, maybe prevent units from being redeployed if their downed instead of just waiting one turn so you actually have to use the other 15 you almost never use.

Also, improve the ai and actual strategy elements, the whole game is pretty much just following the predetermined path the game set for you rather than using any actual strategy or tactical thinking.

Lastly cut the dumb anime tropes, like seeing Rileys panties and her kicking Claude (Does anyone actually think this stuffs funny?), and make potentials more consistant, with how unlikely ill need to use or have the requirements for nocturnal or true friend they should at least activate every time.

Kill and fuck Selvaria
Marry Alicia

can dodge/evasion just be removed entirely

I'd adjust them hard.

Raz's faggot friend that wants to bum him

VC4 sold worse than any other game in the series despite being multiplat
its dead jim, let it go

I think I'd prefer a roll for a damage resist rather than a complete dodge from AI.

More Erika.

VC was always destined to be niche, going balls deep for VC4 has killed the franchise

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rosetta because hes a ugly faggot

VC1 wasn't niche it sold millions.

Then they fucked it all up.

an erotic night with selvaria with every purchase

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They should've just made a proper sequel, not Valkyria Chronicles 1.1

It's laughable that weebs can't understand why VC4 sold like shit. They have no self awareness.

I had a lot of friends buy the first game, most of the weebs I knew bought it and loved it. When I was talking to them about VC4 they were completely disinterested, I think it's just been too damn long; they've all moved on and are into other franchises or are too busy with their stupid kids or some shit.

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Okay, smartass. Why?

I want this delicious woman on Koikatsu.

Simply put, they were nerfed hard.
You are no longer invincible during your turn and enemies actually aim at your body and not your little ass buckler.
Armored techs are a little bit more protected but since their body is sticking out a little they still get hit, but when you end your turn as an ArTech your shield extends horizontally and become a portable cover, which in my opinion is pretty dope.

Also after you beat the game ABSOLUTELY start Hard Mission 1 on the map
You'll be pleasantly surprised when you visit Carisa's tank shop

>you will never watch Rosie get gang banged by a half-dozen Darcsens

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people can rip models from this game right?

wheres the SFM shit?

>you will never watch Isara get gang banged by half-dozen Empire soldiers because she is ded

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>smartass
You're just going to disagree with me despite it being a factual matter that's plain as day to see. Why are you such a faggot?

I can imagine Rosie picking up lesbian Darcsen prostitutes and insisting they use a shawl and roleplay.

What fact? You've stated nothing.

I shouldn't have to, but you have no self awarness lol. That's what I posted. Again, why are you such a faggot?

I come from Panzer General, I will never understand how babies think playing strategy games completely risk-free and crawling across the map at a snail's pace is rewarding.

A time limit forces aggression, forces pre-planning, forces on-the-fly problem solving as the AI throws a spanner in the backline or tries to quagmire your rapid advance.

VC's scout rush bullshit is broken. The game striving for rapid and decisive aggression is not.

Too late now
In hindsight I'd say not to cater to dipshit otaku and their shit taste + keep the franchise off the PSP, tell SEGA to pull their head out of their ass and give all their games international releases (that goes for Phantasy Star too)
Ultimately SEGA Japan is run by retards so even if you could show them a glimpse of the future they'd still shit the bed

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why would that make any difference

I'll buy 4 as soon as they remove denuvo

Marry Riley
Kill meme sniper and meme menopausic shit

I want to kill off 95% of my squad to replace with female generics in VC4.
Most of the recruits suck ass in terms of design.
Am i the only one?

No, I still haven't played it because the main cast looks so bad.