New blood joins this earth

Who the fuck is moot? Sounds like a cucks name.

Ask your mom

But shes dead

They're in the right though, only the biggest shiteating faggots still play BfA. What are you looking forward to to justify your sub, a fucking troll reskin to do the same shitty content with? Pathetic.

>vanillafag calling someone else pathetic for redoing old content when he will fork over subscription money to replay old content

lol get your nostalgia goggles out of your ass

Did you just call yourself a shiteating faggot?

I'm a vanillafag but really?

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>MOOT
who?

>dude it was the community that made it so great lol FUCK LFD and FUCK niggers XD
>literally everyone p laying classic will be using modern addons that simulate LFD
>won't be any communication in forming group, just click whatever you want to join
>community will be fractured right off the bat since there won't be enough to players to support more than one server, yet Blizzard will almost certainly release at least two for a PvE option

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user I'd recommend medical help

just realized we feel nostalgic about WoW the same way normies feel nostalgic about highschool/college when they peaked

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>fuck up in a dungeon
>the retail guy playing classic for the first time forgives you and struggles with you through the dungeon
>the nolife private server minmax veteran already blacklists you and developed an addon to instantkick your ass when you try to join a group
>the vanilla boomer doesn't care and just solo'd the dungeons and finishes his meme build

>play BFA from launch
>new patch comes out, welfare gear is now the same ilvl as the raid tier gear
>months of grinding was beyond pointless
guess ill just farm for transmog

No wonder raider io exists. Fuck welfare gear.

What's the point of doing heroics when afkfronts and titanforging exist?

Blame alliance players for that, desu

>i only do pet battles and transmog runs, I deserve high-end gear or else i unsubscribe!

I've been playing a druid in a private server and ended up tanking dungeons a lot (you fuckers had me thinking I'd be stuck healing but apparently not actively being afraid of tanking makes you the tank for most groups every other goddamn warrior/paladin has a mile long list of excuses for why someone else should tank I fucking swear) and I want to ask if it's normal for people to occasionally rip mobs from me or if it means I'm fucking up somehow. I can always wrangle them up before they get more than a couple hits off unless the dick-ass mage decides he needs to run to the other end of the dungeon instead of toward me and I generally don't seem to lose aggro on anything else as the pull goes on. Is it just gonna happen occasionally while I'm trying to get a pack of mobs together or is there something I'm messing up?

what if gear wasnt soulbound? when raiders get shiny new gear they can sell old gear to the casuals who dont like to raid

>blame alliance
yeah, when 40% of the horde are belf females

You would have to make it much rarer ala runescape or else it would be worthless. 2 hours input to have a good chance at epic gear you could sell would make it worthless, and therefore the entire gearing process worthless

40% of the horde are pussies
100% of the alliance are pussies

Dwarf, Orc, Troll, Tauren. These are acceptable races to play. I would also accept human but they've been ruined my minmaxers and trannies

Guess I'll go complain about classic wow nostalgiafags in a smash thread then

You mark things so people actually hit the right target. If the dps hits random targets, you're going to lose aggro no matter what you do. There is not much that goes into druid tanking considering you basically just maul your main target and swipe.

>leaving comfy, fun, kino, populated eastern kingdoms for some shitshack fishing village in literal nowhere that forces you to run for 3 hours between each quest and has a population of 2: you and some retard who got lost taking the wrong boat to theramore

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>monthes of grinding was beyond pointless
more than just monthes user, entire years of grinding are made pointless, are you sure you've played wow before?

>not giving hordies in ashenvale something to kill

Human warlock master race reporting

Mages, rogues and Warlocks can overaggro if they don’t watch their output, that’s normal. If everyone is grabbing aggro from you routinely, something is going wrong. If healers are getting aggro, you dun fucked up massively
Make sure everyone is hitting the same target, keep as many targets crowd controlled as you can, and if some retard keeps pulling aggro from the wrong targets, give them a “you pull it you tank it” ultimatum.

If the tank is losing aggro on the main target to ANYTHING, he's doing something wrong. Nobody is talking about secondary targets.

At high end content, sure. I assumed he was talking about levelling dungeons. Due to gear and level discrepancy tanks can have a hard time if high dps classes don’t ease up.

>dps activates all his cd when tank is trying to spam sunder to 5
>"wow wtf tank you fucking noob hold aggro"

Get up macros to hotmark targets on the fly. Tanking is a braindead automation if you actually mark targets for dps to focus/cc.

>all these warlock leveling guides skipping dark pact
>look up how they level with the builds
>they spend a ton of time standing still wanding mobs
lmao@these shitters

Lol alliance.
Real coming of age story is finding Makrik's wife

>i-it's not my fault I can't do my job, y-you need to stop doing yours!

Based retailtard

Can't wait when you waste your time arguing with the tank and you getting kicked

Mankrik's wife and the quillboar are the perfect allegory for the white race and Jews. Kill them all.

I've been tanking in every private server I played on. Not my fault you get paired with retards who have no idea how to mark targets or stance dance.

I hope reality doesn't hit you with too hard a bump if you actually do end up playing classic.

...

>I-I played on a private server!
Hope reality won't hit you hard, bro

I went dark pact and still used my wands. All dots up then I wanded. SB spam wasn't worth it, the time I saved was less than it took me to drink all the time, since my imp couldn't sustain that mana usage.

What about Worgen?

t. never actually played vanilla

I know you're trolling, but fuck you.

You're not fooling anyone. DPS could and did pull aggro if they didn't manage their abilities. Trying to brag about unverifiable achievements on chink centrals is not going to fly.

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debating wether I should play warlock or mage when classic finally drops in 2030
human masterrace btw

Human Warlock, bro

Always Human Warlock to make minmax private server doomers scream

DPS could and did pull aggro when their tanks were shit. Were you one of those shit tanks? Is that why you're being so defensive?

Warlock. You'll be inundated with mages, and if you do leveling dungeons you'll be treated as the second coming when you do shit like SM

>tfw classic comes out and you can make the trek to Stormwind from Darnassus as a level 10 night elf, corpse hopping across Wetlands and Loch Modan until you reach Ironforge and the tram
My body and spirit are ready

So are we going to go round and round until one of us just stops giving the other person a (you)?
You're wrong, and beating your chest on an anonymous imageboard won't change that.

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>he actually believes people will wait for 2+ sunders before attacking in Classic

>minmax pnigger doomer already ready to scream and blacklist people on Classic
Based

The only person going round and round is you, because you know you're wrong. It's not 2004, warriors actually know how to hold aggro.

Sounds more like you’re just getting your excuses ready for when you pull onyxia and wipe the raid.

the free lvl 40 mount is also very tempting

You're literally the only person here making excuses.
>y-you didn't wait for my 10+ sunders! i-it's YOUR fault I lost aggro!

>wanding mobs
I hope you do this, because it's a lot more efficient to wand/autoattack mobs after casting a few spells to let your mp tick up instead of dumping everything on two or three mobs before drinking.

And with that you out yourself.
I’ll let you figure out on your own where you went wrong, and I anticipate your spluttering backtracking with interest.

>rejuv/regrowth before pull
>use maul on marked target while spamming swipe
Druid tanking is so easy but it kinda sucks. I tanked dungeons all the way to 60 on my nostalrius druid and I'm gonna do it again on classic

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THATS 50 DEE KAY PEE MINUS

Mangle was added in tbc right? And lacerate too? Vanilla bear must have been so braindead with just maul and swipe

You don't spam SB either.

Once you hit 44 you go and get yourself a full shadoweave set. You can combine it with a class quest off hand, and a hypnotic blade if you have one for +137 shadow damage. With these, your dots deal a bit over 2.2k damage. Conveniently that's about how much hp mobs your level have, so at most you need to throw one or two wand hits or a nightfall proc at them.

So all you gotta do is dot up a mob, fear, tap, dot up another, fear, tap and repeat. For optimal speed, your dots should be doing almost no overdamage (if they do, it means you wanded too much), you should not get hit by a mob (life is a resource) and you should be constantly doing something (preferably casting a dot). To show how important constantly casting dots is, check the dps of corruption. With the above mentioned spell damage and SM, corruption deals 685 damage for a single 1.5s GCD, so 457 dps. A blue, lv 44 req wand has 47 dps, a bit over one tenth.

Dark pact becomes a necessity with these tactics since you can't keep your mana up with just life tap like this, so you use imp as a mana battery. I should check what kind of mana regen felhunter has though, since the few hits it can make should remove the need to ever wand.

Quoting this too so you see it.

>corruption deals 685 damage for a single 1.5s GCD, so 457 dps.
That's not how you calculate DPS.

>played vanilla when i was like 10 years old
>dorf hunter named chair (yes chair)
>deeming this "starting area" boring, bet there are better quests elsewhere in the world
>emerge from the trogg tunnel at level 1 with no idea what lies ahead, but determined
>why are there no quests in this town
>i must find a bigger town, then
>why are the enemies all so strong
>why are these roads so empty
>i wish i was in the zone with zelda references
>why is this temple empty, that big dorf is probably important
>looks like i can rest here at least, i'll log out
>maybe one day i'll find a city
>didn't play again until tbc release

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It's how you calculate multi-target dps, which is the relevant part here. If you throw corruption on a different target every GCD, you will be dealing 457 dps.

Yes, both of those abilities were added in TBC

Dwarf leveling zones are nostalgic as fuck but goddamn they were so shitty when it comes to actually leveling up.

>retail guy not raging the most
I doubt this heavily. About 70% of the time that someone fucks up in retail the tank or healer drops group immediately usually with a big fuck off ltp

I unironically played a warrior in a robe, just because it was the only thing that was green and bought weapons from the local weaponsmith.

>there won't be enough players to support more than server
you are absolutely delusional if you believe this. people will come and they'll come in droves. there's a reason why decent private servers have populations in the tens of thousands.

Yes that's a very good thing to do once you get there, but before that, i.e. the majority of your levels, auto-ing your target while your dots do their thing is a good idea, because killing mobs more slowly but having less downtime still equals more mobs killed

true even dun morogh is all over the place in terms of questing, albeit comfy as fuck

user, the retail-extremist guy would quit at level 10-20 how slow the game is.
What you describe will be the private server doomer veteran who shittalks you for playing a shit race/class combo and does what you described.

The difference is that Vanilla content was good and BfA is arguably the worst the game has ever been, you dumb fucks. Do you think in 12 years time people are going to be begging to go back to BfA?

In twelve years I doubt anyone will even remember it.
Does anyone remember anything from WoD outside annoying grinds?

I mean before that you don't even have dark pact so it's a completely different thing.

>majority of your levels
A bit misleading since at 43-44 you're only about halfway done, since time between levels isn't constant.

They would love to revisit the mythic version of BfA dungeons and the BfD or future patch raids

Blizzard sucks at world content, though

Blackrock Foundry

>Sneaks up behind you

Nothin personnel, kid

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>opponent is Dwarf Rogue or Human Rogue
FUCK

>retail wow

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youtube.com/watch?v=VX7RuUcd-3Q

>THAT Influx of old school wow pvp videos we'll get

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I played a short while in a private server, I think the most cancerous dungeon groups were the ones for the low level dungeons. All the later ones were really chill, so I think I would rather blame the retailfags for the rampant rage quitting that was going on.

Of course there are tons of tryhards playing on there too, but they're going to speedlevel their character so I doubt you'll see them much in the dungeons.

>minmaxers
>playing with random plebs instead of their fellow autists
LOL

>fellow autists
So, they stick to their private server?

>retail player is unable to comprehend the concept of making friends and doing dungeons with them

>minmax doomer
>making friends
LOL

>dont they just press a button and automatically get put into groups where they don't have to speak to anyone?
big yikes

>tfw didn't know about the deeprun tram and travelled from Ironforge to Stormwind by the Blackrock route, on foot, at level 6
I was 12, I had fun

>I think the most cancerous dungeon groups were the ones for the low level dungeons
Maybe I've just gotten lucky but the low level dungeons I've done were all pretty amicable. It seemed to me like everyone was glad to finally be getting shit going and were more than happy to slow things down a bit if someone was struggling.

Who are you quoting?

I have almost every t3 set, every tcg tabard, 22m gold and almost 400 mounts and believe me when I tell you retail is dog shit

Don't you all get a good laugh from people who barely, if at all, played vanilla and only got the UNOFFICIAL OFFICIAL VANILLA PRIVATE SERVER experience, talking about it like they are authorities and making shit like guides and builds ?
I even came across one video professing a "fury main tank build", stating that there's no need to take the improved defense trait among other things.
Honestly I can't wait for the servers to actually open, these people will go back to their hugbox servers in less than a month.

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Leveling dungeons will be cancer with those people and retail fanboys

gonna make a gnome warrior tank
how should i spend my talent points while i level

Just put your points on dps and be ready to be replaced, because vanilla guide reading assholes will call you worthless anyway

You put them in fury or arms and at 40 you respec to arms if you're not arms.

Fury with a bit of Arms for levelling up, once you get close to the cap and t0,5 content you go full prot and never get outside dungeons ever again.

Just never level protection.

unpopular opinion: alliance warlocks are pretty strong on group pvp, because horde doesnt have pallies to dispell all ur shit, its pretty comfy to dot everyone and see their faces melt because horde is too dumb to do anything and only care about "muh 1v1 wotf racial"

>pvp videos we'll get
>"please subscribe and follow and push the bell for updates, also consider becoming a patreon or else I'll starve monkaS kappa kappa"
can't wait

>alliance warlocks are pretty strong
UDs say hi

What's going to be your vanilla leveling soundtrack Yea Forums ?
What will best plunge you back into those dark times ?

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thats why i said group pvp, alliance locks on bgs are good

>unironic retail fags
You can't have a lower iq than that, it's impossible.

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>metallica
Why has metallica posting been a thing lately?

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>um actually holy resistance being bugged means it's a completely different game
this is what nostalgiafags actually believe.

>alliance
>good on bgs
lmao

>tfw unironically getting hyped for classic
God what the fuck is wrong with me? Last time I played WoW was in 2008, why am I doing this to myself?

Well, shit like Deadmines was almost impossible to do without someone ragequitting after 20 minutes because it was too slow or because some stupid mistake caused a wipe. Or when they realized that they would actually have to walk to the dungeon. Also there seemed to be tons of "I'm dps" warriors/paladins so it took a while to find a group.

After that the groups seemed to be much saner.

You just want an excuse to play an MMO that would feel new without it actually forcing you to learn everything from scratch.

horde cant compete with paladins on bgs, shamans are a meme

WHERE WE DROPPIN BOYS

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>horde brainlet hunter
>tame alligator
>park it on the path on aggressive
>watch from the hills to the south.
>wait for a lvl 60 main to put me in my place

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Tirisfal

Playing as a fem ud lock for Yea Forums and a male ud lock with my irl friends

ultimate meme mode; human warlock leveling in night elf areas

Mulgore, gonna make a shammy or a druid.

>no warlock trainers kalimdor
>forced to go to IF/SW for your skills all the time

WHEN'S THE GODDAMN RELEASE DATE REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

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Elwynn. Gonna be a qt fem human mage because fuck gnomes.

Same thing happened to me, me and a friend played horde usually, decided to make alliance characters one day and I made a gnome mage before realising that my friend made a human. Spent a couple hours walking to the human starting area because I didn't know about the tram, next session we went back to playing horde.

>God tier
Teldrassil, Tirisfal.

>Ok tier
Dun Morogh, Mulgore.

>Shit pleb bland boring tier
Durotar, Elwynn

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July 16th.

Undead Warrior or Orc Warrior

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orc is the master race on horde side, if you dont roll one when your class can be one, ur gonna get crushed by tryhards, enjoy not being invited to pugs

Mulgore is peak comfy.

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Remember when the Undead where double-crossing assholes and were less into the Horde than even the Blood Elves ? I miss those times.

Orc Warrior for everything.

UD Warrios are underrated, but you will cry in a corner for never being invited for anything.

I made a Undead Mage back in classic and i miss cannibalize

>orc for tanking
literally the worst possible race for tanking

Will you help me find my dog?

feenix was a good private server but the pop was possibly around 4k at its absolute best, it played like a very low population vanilla retail server

only for pve dps, and even then trolls not far behind and has a racial that doesn't fuck them over. for pvp though yeah orc is bis

My main currently is a Troll Druid
For Classic should I pick a Tauren Druid or NE Druid?
Or should I just stick with Troll? Was DiscPriest viable in vanilla?

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orcs are superior for tanking aswell because of weapon skill with axes

>Troll druid in classic

Tauren, trolls couldn't be druids in vanilla. Get ready to actually do quests to get your various forms, that shit was sweet.

>the least common tanking weapon
yes im sure that the weapon skill will come in handy for thunderfury, daggers, and maces with +def

I am gonna roll a Troll Warlock in Classic

im going to be the mostcoolguy on classic

trolls can't be druids
disc wasn't even remotely usable and was only used as supporting tree for shadow and holy

thing is there aren't many weapons worth using for tanking, most seem to lean towards troll for bis tanking for for berserk + regen meme

axe weapons*

there are plenty of axes you can get for tanking, if you take a look at minmax guilds all tanks are orcs

taurens, trolls and undeads are a fucking meme

>tfw regenerating 0.2 health every 5 seconds and there's nothing anyone can possibly do about it
im ready to be invincible

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I'm so bored. I'm installing WoW. I can't wait anymore anons.

God help me.

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>lol fuck thunderfury and alcor's razor this +5 weapon skill is way better
horde has shitty racials for tanking, tauren and troll are the only ones with anything that isn't useless

youtube.com/watch?v=-rdmG0k8S8k

youre just gonna play for less than a week and regret wasting your money

dont repeat my mistake

Yeah, I know. I put it in a wrong way. The question about sticking with a Troll was meaning "a Troll but a different class". I thought that was obvious. Apparently not.

>troll and ud tanks are better tanks than tauren
Sad that the Tauren meme still lives on

It's just mind boggling how you Wow players complain so much. Compared to the second most popular mmo (FF14), your game has a shitload more pve content, a huge world, a kinda functional pvp even, a semblance of gear progression. And you're still complaining there's nothing to do in the game? I understand that if you're lucky you can get mythic level gear in casual content but still, I don't understand you lot.

>undead tanks
Warriors already have a built-in wotf. 5% more health is better than wotf and berkserking.

>imyplying modern wow is an mmo or an rpg

I keep looking for a fantasy game but I can't find what I want. WoW is the closest to the feel I'm after though.

>battlegrounds
>fantasy world
>not a moba

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Ngl part of the fun of vanilla was just because of the fact I was a retarded young kid. The world was a lot more mystical and mysterious when you new nothing about the game world.

I remember thinking the plague lands was so fucked up just because a random natural disease happened. I new nothing about the Burning Legion.

>built in
>has to learn stance-dancing when the ud can just press one button to negate that meme

All this fighting.. there's one thing we can all agree on and that's that you forgot to take your DAILY DOSE! Let's start off with a weak one

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>there are people on earth who played wow before wc3

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Then everyone would have awesome gear eventually. At least that's how it would be on retail, but since in classic there are so few drops that 40 people have to fight over it might actually work short term, but within a year or two, everyone would run around in early naxx gear.

>pressing 2 buttons is hard, I need to simply it to 1 button
jesus christ

Are you a returning player? If you are, I understand you, you are essentially bored with the game but after a while you get the urge to try it again but pretty soon you see you're not interested, etc. I'm currently going through that process in another mmo.
That wasn't really my point. My poing was if you're into pve, you have shit to do, if you're into pvp, you have shit to do. Seems to me that people are just bored by the game from playing it for so long.
>we want engaging gameplay
>Mop had engaging gameplay
>'Mop was shit, fuck Mop, muh pandas'

This is a classic thread, why are you asking about retail?

arigatou doctor.

Finally I'll be switching from the favela nigger no shoes faction to a decent one.

>no edgylords undead rogues who are literal shitters
>no edgylords undead mages who refuse to give you a stack of water
>no edgylords undead priests who dont buff you when he pass by
>no minmax female orc shitters everywhere
>no 30yo boomers who havent played the game in 10 years playing taurens and wiping the group everytime or playing druid who cant even ress
>no normies weed addict playing trolls

Don’t get me wrong I know everything about the game now. I watched plathroughs of each Warcraft game. I’ve definitely paid my respects

I think i'll do this for the Ne mount. Thanks for the idea.

Because living in a basic house is a difficult pill to swallow if you remember the days you lived in a mansion.

this picture makes no sense

I bet you didn't even play warcraft 1 when it came out, faggot.

i'd never touch anything 2d. warcraft 1 and 2 don't matter

I hope you're playing a class that has a trainer in teldrassil.

i remember buying one of the acorns from the reagent vendor assuming you could actually plant it and grow a tree or something instead of just being druid ammo.

This image encapsulates the difference between vanilla WoW and Classic WoW. In vanilla this druid quest was likely your first time out of Teldrassil/Darkshore. It was your foray into the other continent where there are no night elves save for you. If you started WoW early enough there wouldn't even be youtube videos to guide you through this, you wouldn't know what to expect until you made the trek.

Now? It's still a nice journey to collect flight paths, sure.

July.
Alpha is now.
Beta is soon and we should hear much more the next few weeks.

Zoomer joins this game
And quickly he quits the same day
No transmog or trannies
The young boy has no reason to stay

>he thinks that shit didn't happen in vanilla
one of the first things that happened when i joined an rp guild was someone trying to trick me into erping.

In short time retail calls him
Level 60 takes too long
Deprived of his transmog
The zoomer cries alone

What I heard
What reddit told
Never shined in this game so old
Never cap
Never gear
Never enter the molten core

grim sucked.

So I dub thee BFA addicted

If I leave elwynn at 6 i can just skip training for level 8 which is CoA and Fear, not a huge deal. Hearth at level 10 for Voidwalker then take a flightpath back to menethil.
It'll add a few hours to my playtime but overall that's a good trade for an unarmored NE mount.(assuming blizz even has unarmored mounts in classic.)

>one of the first things that happened when i joined an rp guild was someone trying to trick me into erping.
The not-so-secret part of every RP server is that ERP is very alive. Even on non meme servers (so, not moon guard) it happens a lot despite what people will tell you.
It's funny that so many people play just to jack off with other dudes online but whatever.
Even in on an active RP-PVP server like Emerald Dream, beneath the surface people are jo'ing with each other. If someone doesn't believe me, all you have to do is make a belf and join one of the military themed blood elf guilds. They WILL have a few dudes there who don't use mic and pretend to be female (one famous one even was using some ukranian model as their discord avatar) and they WILL try to get you alone and talking dirty at some point, especially if you say you're young.
I'm honestly surprised blizz has never done anything about it as at its root its literally old dudes jacking off with high school kids and it isn't like blizzard can't see the whispers if they felt like it.

>watching warrior guides as if I'm ever going to get to tank anything at 60 or ever get any decent gear as a person rolling with no friends
;_;
I'm still excited

I'm going to be playing something modern, so I can bring my experience with classic WoW into the future.

>with no friends

but thats where you are wrong, you'll be able to have friends in-game

Say something nice about my warrior on Nost

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The best art blizzard ever put out right here.

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can you mentor me on warrior for classic plz mommy

First, you can definitely get gear and tank at 60. If you mean raids, well that's different. But you'd be a fool to not try to tank 5mans at 60 so you can dictate who's in the group.
Second, as a warrior willing to tank, you'll make friends without even trying. Just be a nice dude and people will be sucking your dick.

You're likely already aware, but tanks are VERY in demand and rare for 5mans. But the opposite for raid tanks as establishing a main tank is the first thing a raiding guild does. in that same vein, however, all the warriors in a serious guild are expected to be able to tank if necessary - some encounters require it and you should always be fast to throw on a shield and taunt when shit goes south, plus chances are good you'll be high on the threat table anyhow.

TLDR: You'll make friends and while its a little corny that's one of the very best parts of the game.

>you should always be fast to throw on a shield and taunt when shit goes south
can you swap equipment during combat like that? is that hard? is there macros for doing that?

Leaving at 6 does help. If you left immediately, you wouldn't even have imp.

Warlock mount is cool though, so I can't be bothered to do the same. If I was playing some other class, then I would.

I want to play Classic, but I don't want to give Blizzard money in a way that could be construed as supporting BFA.

>gameplay
I don't recall exactly when this started bothering me, but it recently got to the point where I can't ignore it anymore. I am talking about the word 'gameplay', which I believe is the single most useless and misleading word in game terminology. But let me explain myself before you start booing.

Consider the following sentences:

This book has good bookread.

This record has good recordlisten.

This movie has good moviewatch.

So yeah, I've just made up three new words: bookread, recordlisten and moviewatch. Now these words may sound stupid to you, but that's not all there is to it. These words are also useless. To demonstrate this I'll rewrite the above sentences without using them:

This is a good book.

This is a good record.

This is a good movie.

See where I am going with this? Just keep in mind that people have been discussing books, records and movies in the English language for a long time, without ever feeling the need to invent ghastly word-constructs like "bookread", etc.

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You can swap weapons/shield, not other armor.
>is that hard?
nope
>macros for that?
yep. Or you can literally just drag your 1h and shield to your hotbar and click them. But yes, there will be macros and addons for switching gear sets or weapons/shields. It's not nearly as tough as you might think it sounds, I promise. I do it all the time and I'm legally retarded.

I wish i could take back the 10 seconds of postread i dedicated to you.

>it happens a lot despite what people will tell you
>and they WILL try to get you alone and talking dirty at some point, especially if you say you're young.
i remember the details very vividly and it was exactly like that, although it might not have been during vanilla. it was some time around vanilla and tbc when ashbringer shit was full swing. probably because of that tales of the past machinima.
>make a human male paladin who looks exactly like mograine because dude ashbringer so epic ftw
>find a scarlet crusade themed rp guild because scarlet crusade is the shit
>guild vet with female character takes a liking to me
>constantly dotes on me, gives advice about rp shit and guild fashion
>runs me through dungeons and stuff
>takes me to sfk one day, came up with some convoluted story about how his character was related to the npcs
>dick around in the dungeon while roleplaying
>get to the stables
>starts going full ham porno acting ohh user i need you
>extremely detailed /me of stripping and erotic shit
>completely fucking dumbfounded because i was too stupid to realize what was going on and the guild rules explicitly said there was no erp
>whip out the trusty haha y-you too and log
>delete character

This guy is right, use pic related build for leveling and do 5mans as tank for quests while leveling then for preraid bis at lvl cap.
The smart thing to do is to get the UBRS key and main tank it so you can reserve whatever gear you want and if your gear competition doesn't like it that's ok because you can just fill your raid with mages/priests/paladins/warlocks and tell the rogue/hunter/fury cucks to eat shit and go cry to mommy. Do the same thing with LBRS/Scholo/Blackrock and again if the rogue and fury shitters are gonna bitch and cry they are easily replaced with clothies

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how did it feel losing all of that

It's all tied into the same sub; if you hypothetically opened a new account and bought a month's sub and never installed the game or did anything with it, Blizzard would have no data on whether you were supporting classic or BfA, just the unified WoW. They will notice internally if engagement is higher with one or the other obviously, look at what happened with OSRS.

I guess. But you know as well as i do, most people will either be
>Pre existing friendship groups who will always put their friends before you
>Streamer/Discord server circlejerks
>Retail guild transplants
I've gotten into groups before but since there's so many warriors, MT is usually either the GM or his friend - and then you're well down the stack for gear drops as a dps warrior

Fair enough, I found that to be true whilst levelling on private servers, but I'd do a dungeon, add people who were good and then never hear off them again - most people just want a tank it seems. I'd love to roll around with an experienced player who knows what they're doing and level together

Lemme put it this way, after the moltdown back in the day and nost shutting down then reopening under the rule of chink enslaved slavs i went back to retail
To be honest its okay though, because now when classic comes out I know exactly how to level and play a warrior which is 1 of the hardest things to do for lvling/pve

I'm well aware that one WoW sub covers both retail and classic. But I don't want to let them think I support BfA, even if accidentally.

>See where I am going with this? Just keep in mind that people have been discussing books, records and movies in the English language for a long time, without ever feeling the need to invent ghastly word-constructs like "bookread", etc.
"Bookread", "recordlisten", "moviewatch", etc., would all be useful terms that help to describe the experience of those particular activities. If a record was grating to listen to and seemed to be an affront to my basic sensibilities, then I wouldn't want to listen to it unless it had some sort of artistic and/or intellectual redeeming quality. And even then in that latter hypothetical case, that media would not be a routine part of my collection. Gameplay is a fine word that, thanks to its acceptance, has inherent meaning, which makes it easier to talk about the finer points of video games.

The problem is the English language and its aversion to certain kinds of neologisms. I would use all of those "ghastly word-constructs" if they were accepted and didn't make me sound like a retard. Other languages, like Greek and German, don't have these problems as badly, which is why the best philosophy is written in these languages. Thankfully, English isn't THAT averse to coining new words, most other languages seem to be much more inflexible. The last thing we need to do is to make it harder to talk about abstract concepts. Otherwise we'll keep making the same mistakes and never get better at any medium.

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why is the build arms if its supposed to be for tanking? wouldn't prot be better?

>I don't like the mouthfeel of this ham-burger

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The only way that would happen is if there was an absurdly stupendous level of self-sabotaging egotism involved, and they already had to swallow their pride to make classic in the first place. If they look at your account metrics and see all you do is play classic and possibly don't even have BfA purchased, there's no reason for them to assume you have a sub for BfA.

Don't you have to buy the expansion itself? If your account doesn't have that expansion purchased there's no way they could interpret a sup as playing something you can't possibly access. And if you did buy BFA you only have yourself to blame.

>Won't be able to play Vanilla anymore because my new Career is going to eat into all of my time
Oh to be a teenager again

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I'm having such a hard time deciding between classes, played Mage, Rogue and Priest on Nost/Elysium so not too keen on lvling those again.
Would like something ranged that's good in PvP, and decent in soloing, is Warlock for me?

based and redpilled future female dwarf paladin here - I can move to Auberdine or Westfall after level 12, right? I believe I have to stay in Dun Morough to finish the Redemption class quest.

A lot of the stuff in the arms tree is important for tanking ontop of the fact that outside of dungeons you want to be running around as 2h arms not 1h/shield prot. The whole point of the build is to rush mortal strike then get the 15 points in prot then the 5 in fury last.
Most of the prot tree is unnecessary for dungeons and raid off tanking, you'd only really go deep prot for main tanking raids or main offtank in the higher tier raids

WoW was my 2nd MMO after L2
I remember making an undead and somehow ending up at the gates of Stormwind within like an hour
I think i took the zeppelin to grom gol then swam and walked from there.

this. darkshore is comfy

Warlock's more flipped, great at soloing and decent at PvP but still a lot of fun. Definitely one of the smoothest leveling experiences

Words like "gameplay" are holistic. They focus on the essence of video games, that they are something meant to be played for enjoyment. It is term that destroys shills. A game can have all the "content", "features", "acting", "art", "lore", "polish", etc., but the sum often isn't the total of all of its parts. If it doesn't feel good to play, then it's a shit game, hence the term "gameplay". It's the ultimate judgment of a game's value. I wish there were more words like that that didn't make me sound like a goober. It would make things much easier to analyze.

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ahh vanillashit

i am trying really hard to not fall back into it before classic releases :( so many fucking memories over the years in shitty private servers.

>imagine fucking over scubacucks in ungoro with your sub60 twink friends

good times

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Warlock is insanely good in pvp and pve all around, its good in wpvp and in bgs and then its amazing for leveling and invaluable for grouped content at cap
If you play alliance I'd recommend playing warlock because there's a meme perpetuated by (them) in the community that you shouldn't be an alliance warlock bc undead have a fear immune every 2 minutes which let me tell you literally doesn't matter at all because you have more than enough other tools to deal with it. At lvl 60 on alliance warlock is one of the least played classes consistently on every private vanilla realm i've been on

Besides raids? Sets, I believe.

What's your levelling path for alliance look like lads?
Last time I played I went
>Elwyn
>Darkshore
>Loch Modan (left)
>Deadmines
>Redridge
>Loch Modan (right)
>Redridge elites
>Stockades
>Duskwood
>Blackfathom Depths
>Wetlands
>Duskwood
>RFK/Gnomer

Then I was 30, ran into Arathi and got kind of lost and lost steam

Games are interactive, hence they can be described by how you interact with and within them, which is what gameplay means. Other mediums are static in that sense, and hence don't need words describing the interaction.

Also, nice pasta, fag.

I really feel like hitting STV around 30 is mandatory to keep pressing on unless you're a leveling juggernaut, 30-45 is the worst bracket in the game and you need to suck as much juice out of one of the only decent zones for it as you can. Even if it involves killing a billion Kurzen rebels or Bloodscalp trolls.

my pre STV leveling route is too sacred to tell anybody because it will ensure i can poopsock 60 and zerg my upper blackrock key so i can make free gold

i just remember playing sub rogue and getting my ass kicked non stop despite having "good" gear

that's the expansion i realized im too retarded to play anything but warrior

What I've felt what I've known never shined through what I've shown.

I thought STV was a bad idea, especially as a warrior since I'll be behind the curve and weak in PvP. Is that really the best place to go? I figured I'd go Arathi/Southshore or something?

I got a WW axe on my private server playthrough since it was a progressed server and I got a carry but I guess that's not happening on classic which is a shame

>meme perpetuated by (them) in the community that you shouldn't be an alliance warlock bc undead have a fear immune every 2 minutes
I've noticed more players going orc for the stun resist. I think the private server scene having discussion forums in which people argue for orc racials over ud racials has swayed the pleb opinions and so more people have rolled orc.

Arathi is really empty, spread out, and just doesn't have enough in it. You'll be moving around a lot in 30-45 regardless, unless you're willing to grind your ass off and be slower you just have to bite the STV bullet and be Hemet's bitch

This guy gets it.
Priests and warriors will be spamming their own fears as much as they can, meaning chances are that WoTF is going to be constantly on CD even if you don't cause it yourself. Besides, it's only five seconds. It sounds a lot, but if you get your fear off early, you'll be able to apply it again before the fight ends.

Arathi is only good for the start and end of the 30 bracket for alliance. it's frankly weird.

> I know exactly how to level and play a warrior which is 1 of the hardest things to do for lvling/pve

HAHAHAHA HOLY FUCK WHAT A MORON. DID YOU TYPE THAT WITH A STRAIGHT FACE? HAHAHAHAH YOU MUST BE THE BIGGEST IDIOT PLAYING TODAY IF YOU EVER THOUGHT THAT.

>Pilgrimage this way
>He didn't try to swim his way and then die, rezzing into the land of Dun Morogh without walking all that shit

>Poisoning the water with healing items

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I'd heard that was the worst bracket for levelling and it's kinda the bit I'm worried about
Guess I need to do some research. Some dungeons in there will be nice too to pump up the exp - since I want to do them all (or nearly all) at least once anyway.

>what is painkiller overdose

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>be an alliance warlock
>have to travel to Ratchet regularly for class quests

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the early 30 bit in Arathi lets you do a few of the introductory quests, but a lot of the other stuff like stromguard and the princess require 37 (IIRC)
That said, the fact nobody ever goes there means Arathi has a fuckton of plants/minerals, so it's definitely worth combing over the less traveled areas like west of the keep.

what about that pirate place? I remember it having some good quests.

They're in the high 30 bracket, I think

that's what China is planning with their overproduction of opioids like Fentanyl. Even their overproduction of other opioids is meant to get a population (American) hooked on drugs, overdosing, and not contributing to society while being a burden on it. This is the brief history of the Opium Wars in which Britain tried to import opiates into Japan to destabilize their population and weaken them from within (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars).

What China has planned is much more sinister. Only a few grains of Fentanyl can cause a fatal overdose, and it's not water soluble. If a Chinese operative were to put a few pounds of Fentanyl into a large city's water supply, or the intake flow to the water supply, then most of the city would be dead within the day. Why else would an opioid which is so effective in such small doses be drastically overproduced by China?

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Human Warlock
Dwarf Paladin
Gnome Warrior
Nelf Priest

We are coming home, brahs

Forgot to mention: there's also the possibility of "cloud seeding" (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_seeding) with Fentanyl particles. Cause rain clouds and within each drop of rain is enough fentanyl to kill you - remember, simply touching Fentanyl can cause an overdose - officers responding to overdoses have accidentally touched particles and have instantly overdosed as a result (cnn.com/2017/05/16/health/police-fentanyl-overdose-trnd/index.html)

So do Arathi for a level or so then STV until what, like 36? And start doing the Scarlet dungeons to get to 40?

I think I only ever levelled in Kalimdor as an Alliance character once or twice while I played WoW (vanilla-wotlk). I don't think I spent more than a few minutes in Darkshore or Desolace outside of a random Night Elf druid I levelled. Eastern Kingdoms are just so much more appealing.

who's the fifth party member?

I was 16 when I played Vanilla. I'm pretty sure most vanillafags are even younger than me. I'm sure most of their memories of Vanilla are actually of levelling during BC and WotLK before they changed all the old zones.

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It is really quite awful. Ashenvale is manageable, albeit Forest Song has no flight master, but Stonetalon has nothing, Desolace has like ten quests for 30-40 and is the least appealing looking area in the game. Early 40 is awful for both factions, since doing everything in Tanaris/Feralas/Hinterland still only gets you to like 43 with the rest of the quests being almost 50.

And for some god forsaken reason, Winterspring is the only finished 55-60 area in the game. And its boring as fuck.

>want to play shammy
>will be forced to level in kalimdor because of the fucking totem quests and no trainers in EK
feels bad

this is close to the best Strat undead group I've ever been in. The 5th player should be a mage, hunter, or warlock. The main warlock is a Soul Link tank spec, stacking stamina and fire damage gear. He uses the VW to pet pull a pack of mobs while following the VW and gathering the mobs with Hellfire. He continues to channel this, spamming searing pain on any stray mobs or anything that is attacking the healer. The priest heals while the mage/hunter/other warlock AOEs, the paladin uses Consecration while attacking the elites, and the warrior cleaves everything. The paladin offheals for larger pulls.

This isn't a lie. I was actually in this group and it was the fastest and smoothest strat undead group I've ever encountered.

Soul Link warlock tanking is a meme. Warlock tanking didn't exist before TBC and only for like 3 raid bosses.

>The paladin offheals for larger pulls.
Hybrids who actually glance at party frames and heal/dispel based off of the need are 100000000% the rarest kind of player and should be praised. I'll never not be angry about them taking away nearly all of the cleansing spells/effects from the DPS that had them.

>what you experienced didn't happen because I'm too retarded to believe it
cool man

Pretty much.
Though you can do SM library runs as early as 32, and you can go back to STV at 39 for the higher level quests

I imagine the spec looked something like this: classic.wowhead.com/talent-calc/warlock/AATM0fxNAzMMyQ

or the fent overdoses could be a DEA plot to increase their funding.

The book has good wordflow
The movie has good cinemetography
The record has good rhythm

Gameplay is relatively simple, but makes sense.

Twin Emperors needed a Warlock tank.

>the sinking feeling you get when you realise you'll have to make an obligatory trip to Kalimdor, so you can pick up flight paths for when you might actually give a shit.

55-60 is just ths stratholme entrance grind that you do with mages bruv

would be top choice, but
>green hair
So close yet so far.

>Hybrids who actually glance at party frames and heal/dispel based off of the need are 100000000% the rarest kind of player and should be praised. I'll never not be angry about them taking away nearly all of the cleansing spells/effects from the DPS that had them.
This.
It's part of the reason i get so annoyed by hybrids that choose to memespec (ret, enhance). Sometimes it can be neat - 40man is a lot of people and you can afford some memespecs clearly. But at the same time the types of dudes that go for these specs often don't do fucking shit. I've played with so many enhance shaman that never once attempted to poison/disease cleanse because "that's a healer's job". Same for rets.
I don't understand why it's so rare to use the full capacity of your class. They have so many tools but choose to ignore 90% of them in favor of the useless parts.

On the opposite end of that, i've been in level 60 5mans where we had a paladin that was dps'ing and off-healing, and the rogue/mage in the group kept talking shit about the paladin's dps. Obviously: 5man dps is irrelevant and they are dipshits, but their inability to grasp how helpful the paladin was (even making sure to freedom the tank and was cleansing shit, bop'd me when i had healing agro briefly because i healed too soon, etc) and reducing it to meters only felt like a treatise on the state of "the pserver community".

WoW sure has a lot of comfy zones to level in.
What's your favorite?

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mulgore - barrens

Most of Kalimdor at night was 11/10 comfy. Thousand Needles, Tanaris, and Silithus in particular.

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Darkshore

Official Alliance Worst Race/Class meme combo list:

>Warrior
Gnome

>Paladin
Dwarf

>Mage
Human

>Warlock
Human

>Hunter
Nelf

>Druid
Nelf

>Priest
Nelf

>>Hunter
>Nelf
>
>>Druid
>Nelf
>
>>Priest
>Nelf
?

Teldrassil > Darkshore and Tirisfal > Silverpine are the most comfy combos.

I don't know why people like barrens/durotar, everything is orange and bright.

dwarves hunters are only good against rogues 1v1, nelves get premade spots easier because having a cat with prowl + shadowmeld is the best combo to def flags

Nelfs are literally a memerace.

Call me crazy, but I like Desolace

Definitely crazy but it does have a certain eerie silence that's appealing

>tfw left work yesterday
>55 year old boomer boss arguing with a 22 year old zoomer about why BFA is better than vanilla

Boomer for BFA or Zoomer?

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>boomer said he was going to go home and tend to his sick children and play WoW over the weekend
>zoomer overhears this and comes up to him and says BFA is shit
>the zoomer stays and argues for a solid 40 minutes after his shift is over

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desolace is comfy, but if you want a even more comfy experience, grind 55-60 only in deadwind pass

Dude, Dwarf Hunters shit on UD Shadow Priests

Desolace to Feralas is peak WoW.

>UD Shadow Priests
like a desert rose never to see play outside of pvp

everyone shit on shadow priests, they must be the most overrated class in the game

Best talent build for leveling?
Best weapon per level?

I love to level in STV on PvP servers

t. undead rogue

Does resisting the urge to commit suicide count as a difficulty?

The desert south of thousand needles
It's objectively shit, with nothing much going for it and shit repetitive quests
But i love it, also had one of the most funny experiences there recently on chinkdale, since there's always competition between factions a small war ensued there, fighting for the bird respawn
Needless to say Horde was victorious with our levels 3X, then Alliance pussies got mad and brought their 60s

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what did the edgemeister's cost you?