Reminder: This video is still based and has not been debunked to this day

Have you seen him play? He really can't. I think they uploaded footage of Ross playing so they could get the clips he needed for Sequelitis. Arin can't even find the shield button.

Say what you will, almost all of his points were addressed in BotW's design. Not at all saying the devs have even heard of his video but it seems like he was thinking of the exact same problems the developers were.

Reminder that it's no coincidence that your favorite Zelda is the one you played first.

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Yeah, and BOTW turned out to be an awful game. What's your point?

uh, so why are Seasons and Twilight princess my favorite(s) if my first was Ocarina

But my first Zelda is Links Awakening and I don't consider it the best.

my first was WW which I look back on poorly and my favorite is OOT

My first was attp and my favorite is tp, so no?

both OoT and LttP are shitty games

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youtube.com/watch?v=UFWI5Ff5NEI

> OOT is in old Yea Forums's top 10 games ever year
> As soon as GameGrumps makes sequelitis, it suddenly drops out of the top 12 completely
This can't fucking be a coincidence

Did he already play TP?

Reminder that Suzy has cheated on Arin multiple times

not yet
He's spoken of it more positively than he has Oot or SS, though, but did say it was boring once.

It isn't. Whenever something gets easy shitposting potential
>"HURF DURF ARIN SEZ ITS BAD, PROVE HIM RONG, U KANT"
opinions here tend to follow.

Arins so fucking pathetic. I remember him begging her to come back while she was off fucking some guy and she only came back because he was starting to make money.

He changes his mind all the time. First he praises MM for doing something different, then he shits on it by claiming it does nothing what makes a Zelda game worth it.

suzy is a venomous cunt

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i wanna fuck her feet so goddamn bad bros

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>Just fucking gives up.
What the fuck man.
Why is he so bad at 3D zelda?

I like how people who post Suzy images never have up to date ones.

I went to high school with him.

He's as huge a faggot now as he was back then. His brother is a nice enough guy.

Suzie is and always will be a disgusting piggy and she's taken multiple dicks up the ass.

>favorite Zelda is the one you played first
I would say specifically the one you grew up with. I played Zelda 1 since I was interested in retro games but I grew up with twilight pricess and that’s my favorite

I don't believe you but tell us more

this picture was posted like a couple weeks ago wtf are you talking about

Dick hand sonic

I heard she actually got contacted to do foot modeling for someone and she was all for it up until he asked if she would stand on his face while he masturbated and it scared her off

>”Z targeting is bad”
It was necessary for the N64s dogshit controls.

Consider that these opinions would not be carried nearly as well throughout the internet if it wasnt for the admittedly great animation

Egoraptor: "We're not going to bring back >Jontron on Guest Grumps because he's a racist."

>Suzy: "I just had nothing but bad situations with black people. It's probably their culture."

I think Egoraptor taught me a very important lesson. There's no such thing as a good e-celeb. They're all bitter sociopaths who see their "fans" as nothing more than pay pigs. They're literally exploiting children to make a quick buck. They're all fucking snakes. Especially Arin.

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that did happen, she talked about it in a podcast

god i wish she did foot modeling

I played a Link to the past first and think that most of the games after it are based off of its structure too strongly, with the 3D games getting steadily worse until BoTW.

That's a bad sign, BotW was the first Zelda played and I thought it shallow, endlessly overhyped bargain bin mediocrity.

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Arin is just a poseur. He took all of his opinions about OoT from me. I knew Ocarina was trash when he was still an annoying little 12 year old kid.

Was debunked day 1

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goddddddd

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My first was AlttP and my favorite is LA

Nah it's wrong in all aspects. Egos just a nostalgia fag crying about "muh zelda 1/lttp"
I've never like him, the way he presents his opinions and game grumps sucks too

wikihow to make footfags suffer?

You know what? How about we forget Zelda for a moment and remember that Arin got a game over at the first boss in the first Sonic game?

hold up, please don't tell me he had trouble with fucking skyward sword too

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for me it all started with The Tester.

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He had so much trouble that he didn't finish the game.

he absoluely did, and bitched the whole way through

I;m not a fan of skyward sword, but it's not a fucking hard game, and he sure as hell made it look like one.

I played Spirit Tracks first but my favorite is Majora's Mask. Though I still love Spirit Tracks a lot

I think the best part was his first air dive.

he finished it a few days ago, m8. He even managed to beat demise without the hylian shield, cementing my opinion that demise is piss easy

My first Zelda was Adventure of Link.

>That time where he wore the Hover Boots for like 10 episodes straight

>haivng trouble with one of the easiest zeldas ever
What a fucking scrub
SS biggest flaw is its linearity and segmented sections
The game is like if they tried to make Four Swords into a completely single player game with how you picked the levels in those games and also forgot to make the overworld more interesting
Dungeons in that game are great, as well as a handful of the bosses and theres some great characters and side quests too
I played it through before BotW came out to see what it was like again and yeah it felt just like that, nice segments/set pieces and high points of action but dull basic tasks and progression, and if you don't like motion control the game wont be for you but its probably one of the best motion games on the Wii, Arins a fucking retard

Oh. Last I heard he dropped it, much like Majora's Mask.

3D Zelda was pretty shit before Breath of the Wild, though. It's not Ocarina's fault, it's just that the technology didn't exist back then. The game doesn't hold up now but it was a technical marvel at the time.

The later Zelda titles don't get a pass because they iterate too much on the stale OoT formula when better Zelda games should have been possible in the PS2/PS3 era. Everyone told Nintendo OoT was 'The greatest game of all time' and that they wanted more. And they gave them more, over and over. Nintendo believed their own hype. It took a relative backlash of Skyward Sword (as well as advancements in game design from certain western games) for the producers to take a step back and look at the series and see that it was massively lagging behind the rest of the industry.

I think the Zelda series will be much better and much more successful going forward now that they're finally free of OoT's shackles.

Please don't tell me he kept wearing them because "its an upgrade so why wouldnt you keep wearing them"

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bullshit, my first one was OoT and I consider ALTTP the better game

OoT was the last truly great Zelda until ALBW though, shit like TP, SS and BOTW are 6/10 or 7/10 games without the Nintendo Bonus

he started doing livestreams of it instead of episodes, so the chat could yell at him what to do when he fucks around.

>has not been debunked to this day

What the fuck are you talking about, Arin debunked himself with his sheer stupidity and inhability to pay basic attention.

Arin is a closet homo. Suzy is a used up slut that only uses people. I've met them both multiple times running cons. Ross is the only one who isn't absolutely annoying.

>Seasons and Twilight princess
My... my nigga? There's more than one of us? Jesus fuck, it's amazing.

Based

Do you guys think Arin is such an insufferable person because he surrounds himself with yes men? The dude pissed off Barry, Jontron, and fucking Chris. There's clearly SOMETHING wrong with him.

>has not been debunked to this day

Saying a game is bad because it happens in a 3D space is fucking stupid.

There, I just debunked it.

Egoraptor fucks up every game he plays, nothing he reviews holds any merit.

I know this thread is bait so nigger sage
nigger nigger

this
every issue would be subverted if arin had the patience to read what characters say or examine his surroundings for a minute, but he's incapable of doing that.
He bitches about the game being "handholdy" but never knows what to do or where to go due to his stubborn refusal to speak to NPCs or read anything any character says to him

>The game is like if they tried to make Four Swords into a completely single player game with how you picked the levels in those games and also forgot to make the overworld more interesting
considering SS was directed by the same guy who did Four Swords that comparison makes sense

un-fucking-believable
why does this guy even play games

Ocarina of TIme is bad merely for all the unskippable cinematics and endless dialogue sequences.

Any game that forces the player to stop interacting with the game for lengthy periods is bad, no matter how good the parts where you're actually playing are.

It's like watching a movie that has a 30-second ad every 2 minutes. I don't care if it's 'Citizen Kane'. That's shit.

To the point: Just let me play your damn game. And that goes double for western AAA trash.

Fun fact, user: Most e-celebs don't like video games. It's a job to them, not a hobby.

Fuck off Arin, the game isn't bad just because you have unmedicated ADHD

>story bad button mashing good
>I just want to turn my brain off bro

youtube.com/watch?v=TeXatquVqAc

A movie without commercials is better than a movie with commercials and a game without game-interrupting shit is better than a game with game-interrupting shit. End of story.

If you have to break control away from the player in order to get your story across, you are a piss-poor game designer.

>cutscenes are like commercials

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Yup, they are. You don't want them, you can't skip them, and they're only good for giving you the opportunity to get up and use the restroom.

You have ADD. End of Story.

Yeah, the Four Swords games were fun but they were designed to be played like that because of the multiplayer
Picking major areas to go to in a mainline Zelda could work if the games were more action focused like say, DMC but a lot of your downtime isn't really that great the way exploring and other aspects are in other Zeldas, and thats fine, it's flawed but its not really as bad as I remember him bitching about it being
Hearing that he's been trash at his Zelda play throughs on his own is delicious. Like, some genres just don't always click for everyone.
I know im bad at Western RPGs and RTS games but I can still recognize good aspects or those games, but Arin and the way he presents his opinions in my memory of seeing his stuff were that "he's right and you're wrong if you disagree" but then when called out for that he tends to recoil into "hurrr its my opinion calm down bro" mode

haha yeah, I like slowly walking for 5 minutes while exposition takes place :^)

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>people get stuck on this
>when his Megaman X video is far better
You guys just love to whine

how would you ideally handle story sections and plot development then, if you're such an expert at game design

You're right, nothing has lived up to Majora's Mask.

Arin, relax. It's okay to have ADHD.

Not good enough to keep making them, apparently.

Why do you make this thread? It has been debunked already

It's less that I have ADD and more that I'm an adult with a job and don't have time for that shit. It's fine when you're 12 and you're just looking for something to kill time. Not when you're an adult with responsibilities.

That's not even an apt comparison. Games are an interactive media. And many have stories. If you don't like that, just play Tetris or Pong or something.

If you have to break away control from the player, then just don't have story sections. Find a way to tell your story during gameplay or just don't have story at all. Keeping the 'story' to a 2-paragraph blurb in the back of the instruction manual would be preferable to that shit.

>Games are an interactive media.

Exactly. And when you're not interacting with your interactive media for lengthy periods, it's an example of bad interactive media.

Read the rest of what I said, you pillock.

Reminder: This video was debunked multiple times the day was released and has only aged worse since then.

>stories that take the player out of the action are shit
>okay so what would you do instead
>fuckin I dunno you figure it out
graduate high school before posting

>user reports "all games with dialogue are trash"

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Is it really any worse then QTE in games?

No, it's just ADD. I'm juggling a job and full time uni but I still find time to exercise and get in on some vidya.
You have legitimate, unironic attention span problems if Ocarina swings to far into the cinematic direction.

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Bruh, you're legit whining because games these days have stories, are you for real?

You didn't make any points worth responding to, dingus, especially when the blurb that I highlighted contradicts the rest of your post.

They absolutely are. If I can't skip them, they're trash.

Better yet, don't make it so I have to skip them. Add an option so I can disable the text entirely. Video game stories are largely shit and you have to be 12 or autistic to enjoy that shit.

I told you what to do. Just don't have them. Period.

So every game you play you just skip cutscenes or is it like you only play online shooters?

My favourite is TP despite Seasons being my first you fag.

My point was that comparing a game to a movie is not accurate because you don't interact with a movie. But you can with a game and many of them have stories to tell.

Did you really not get this. Again, if a game with a story is too much for you, Pong might be up your alley. No pesky plot and you can get right to the gameplay.

If anything, games have gotten a lot better these days than the games of the 32-bit era. Just look at the recent Mario and Zelda titles for example Breath of the Wild and Mario Odyssey both wisely chose to keep the story at a minimum and only at certain points in the game.

that's not a solution

I definitely skip cutscenes if I have to. But generally I avoid cutsceneshit completely.

If I'm playing a game because I enjoy the gameplay but can't tolerate some trashy sub-anime level story, why would I tolerate it? Out of respect for the game developers? (lol)

>They absolutely are. If I can't skip them, they're trash.

Then you get lost because you skipped important information and suddenly it's the game's fault.

We get it m8 you're an ADHD zoomer who loves battle royales and minecraft

So what are your favorite games? What are you playing now?

You watch a movie to watch a movie and you play a game to play a game. You don't want your experience interrupted. The comparison is 100% apt.

Then find a way to convey that information to the player without autistic story. It's not hard. The game isn't at fault for the fact that I got lost, the game is at fault for having unskippable cutscenes in the first place.

I honestly don't get your argument. Pretty sure both of those games have a fair amount of cutscenes. Sounds like you're just being petty.

Just because he's bad at a game does not mean he cant give criticism.

My first was four swords, don't you feel stupid

Retro games. Battletoads is a good one. The only dialogue is between stages and you can skip right through it. Been playing that game for 28 years and I've still never watched the intermission sequences.

>Skip every line of dialogue
>WOOOOW HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO KNOW WHERE TO GO?

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Except some of us aren't bitching about plot in video games. I mostly play RPGs so I have no damn problem with a game telling a story.

>that image
Quality post.

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Ocarina of Time isn't an RPG and would be greatly enhanced if you could skip through the dialogue or cinematic sequences. I think RPGs are largely garbage for lifeless weebs and would rather have dental work than play one, but that's not what we're talking about here.

Nah, you're at fault for being an impatient git. Your ADD isn't the game's fault or the developer's problem. That's something you have to deal with on your own.

This. I partly blame game grumps too, as good as it is sometimes. When he got off the tester he made an update video talking about all the shit he was going to do (animation stuff). Forgot what he mentioned exactly but he explicitly said he was going to work on more girl chan in paradise. Then a month or so later he announced he was doing game grumps with Jontron and then deleted his update video.
I get animation is hard but I think we'd be looking at Egoraptor in a more positive light had he just stuck to animations. In terms of financial gain, he made the right choice. He's just not as cool as he once was.

Nah, I don't have to deal with it because games have already gotten a thousand times better since 1998. We're talking about a 21 year old game, not modern gaming. Games are much better now. Ocarina is and was always shit.

Western AAA trash is still trash, though, but it's largely irrelevant outside of "hardcore" autists.

Arin has only finished two out of the five 3d Zelda games hes played

Your irrational hatred for stories and dialogue in video games is quite befuddling. But hey, there's always games like Tetris for folks like you.

3/5, he finished skyward sword in livestreams

There was MM, what was the other one?

Tetris is great. And the countless other games that don't rely on badly written stories for brainlets are good, too. The only time it sucks is when an otherwise fine game gets bogged down because of it. Most games that rely on cutseneshit would still be shit with or without the story, however.

Newsflash: Using the word "autistic", or variants of it, doesn't make you sound cool or edgy. It only shows your ignorance as you clearly have no idea what that word entails.

So you only play retro games?

Stop replying to ACfag.

If you find the writing in most video games to be particularly interesting or engaging, you definitely suffer from some form of mental impairment. Sorry.

Then play Tetris from now on like a good little toddler and shut up. The rest of us adults can actually handle a story-driven game.

What are some good games that do this then? I'd like to hear some examples

I played OoT first and my fave is WW

>Making my point for not knowing how autism works.

That aside, not all games are made equal. Some have good stories. Some don't. But you aren't willing to give any a fair shot for some reason.

>enjoying a childish, poorly written story clearly aimed at a teenage audience
>adults

lol

Original Zelda was the first I played, but WW is also my favorite.

>Some have good stories.

They really don't. The best stories in games are the ones that are kept at a minimum and don't take the controller out of your hands.

Oot quit
Mm quit
SS completed* in live stream
WW completed
Botw completed

Nice.

Only thing I agree on is that OoT wastes too much of your time with waiting for things to happen (chests opening, doors opening, etc) which became a plague on the franchise. At least in OoT's case you could say it was system limitations, later games have no excuse.

he finished oot though

So no game since the SNES has been good is what youre saying.

This user gets it.

He did?

>every game made since 1995 is cutsceneshit

with tons of pain and teeth pulling, but yeah
youtube.com/watch?v=TlKEvUaeUNI

Reminder that Arin sucks at BotW too

Does that make it a shit game too?

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Arin is a stupid mother fucker. Like one of the dumbest people I've ever seen. It motivates me that even someone as low IQ as him can be successful. He has been playing into being stupid more frequently to protect his ego and for laughs but everybody knows just how dumb this guy is. And it is very dumb.

To reiterate, your ADD isn't the game's fault or the developer's problem. Just because you hate plot doesn't suddenly make them all bad.

why would i want to watch someone suck at a game

Watching arin play breath of the wild was weird because all he did the whole time was talk about how all the other zelda games were shit compared it it, and talk to NPCs and get mad they were talking to him

You may want to be more specific about what "childish, poorly written story clearly aimed at a teenage audience" you're referring to.

I just don't see the appeal. It's incredibly boring.
>combat is incredibly easy and, like arin says, consists mostly of waiting for them to open up their weakpoint
Yes, I'm well aware you can 'skip' past them by using items but that still involves opening up the slow-as-fuck menu if you don't already have the item you need equipped.
>the puzzles are either stupidly easy platforming/timing or some inconsistent cryptic thing
So many of these puzzles just... aren't puzzles. Moving around blocks, jumping around and pushing in buttons isn't remotely clever. And for what little puzzles there that aren't mind-numbingly easy, just don't make sense. I'd expect rolling to put the fire on the stick I'm carrying out, not magically phase into the floor so it can burn up a cobweb.
>the story is bland, boring and gets in the way
I don't feel I need to expand on this.
I really don't understand why people love this game and insist that it holds up today, and that you're dumb if you think otherwise.

They're bad, you just happen to have shit taste. Why would you choose to have interactive media as a past time and be okay with having that interactivity taken away from you every other minute? It's like preferring to watch movies on television with commercials. That's just stupid. Shit taste.

Pick one. Throw a dart.

Metal Gear Solid and its sequels for start. Or better yet, The Last of Us (which is a shit game with or without the endless cutscenes, of course).

>Metal Gear Solid and its sequels for start
Confirmed no-taste ADD ridden faggot

opinion discarded

I do not understand this line of thinking. What you're arguing isnt even entirely a cutscenes problem either , if your argument is cutscenes are bad because they pause gameplay. I feel like youre baiting. Thats like saying games with loading screens are bad because they stop you from playing the game. Or that games with turn based systems are bad because you have to wait for someone else to finish their moment of playing before you can have your moment of playing. Or that games with puzzles are bad because you have to stop playing and think to solve the answer before you can continue pressing buttons. It sounds like with this line of reasoning, literally 99% of games ever made would be considered bad, and at that point it may just be that you have very specific, like autistically specific tastes in video games.

Just post the photo of him eating out his hog of a wife while she plays the DS.

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1. You haven't even made a point about what plots in particular are bad, other than you just hate them because they're keeping you from your precious fucking game so don't talk to me about shit taste.

2. Communicating a story is also something that games can do as well. Too bad for you if you hate that or if you can't stand having to read or pay attention to words or scenarios on a screen. Not the game's fault.

3. The movie/commercial comparison is still bad. Stop it.

>unmedicated
I think he's stated multiple times he takes adderall.

debunked as not real

>I really don't understand why people love this game and insist that it holds up today,

Because Ocarina was instrumental to their growth as a gamer (as a person) and some feel like an attack on the game is an attack on their person. They're blinded by nostalgia and their memories of the game from their childhood and are completely unable to look at the game objectively..

its clearly not working

I would have liked Metal Gear Solid if I played it as a 12 year old. Sadly, it was released when I was already too old for it.

>Pick one. Throw a dart.

So the argument is: ALL STORY IS BAD BECAUSE WAAHHHH.

Fucking idiot.

If only abortions had been legal when you were born

Loading times ARE bad. Are you going to defend loading times now? lol

Yes, loading times are sometimes an inherent evil due to limitations but cutsenes are a choice on the part of the game's designers. Come on now, what a ridiculous argument.

>Communicating a story is also something that games can do as well

Absolutely. Just have the story told through gameplay. Otherwise, it's shit.

>backtracking is good and thrilling
jesus christ

Also because the people who write video game stories are usually below comic book writers in terms of talent. If they had talent they wouldn't be writing video game cutsenes.

Sorry kiddo, I didn't realized you were so emotionally attached to your toy. Your toy is fine.

You didnt address my other examples. So youre saying that any moment the game isn't allowing you to physically interact with it in any meaningful way is bad regardless of the context? Emotional engagement, mental engagement, all out the window because a game is only good when youre interacting with it on a physical level right?

So no dialogue.
No scenarios.
But communicate a story through gameplay.

How the fuck is that supposed to work?

Correct. Video games are an interactive medium. When they try to become other mediums (ie. movies) they are no longer interactive. And that's bad.

Environmental context I assume.

I'll repeat this because you keep making it easy:

Your ADD isn't the game's fault or the developer's problem. Just because you hate plot doesn't suddenly make them all bad.

No. I played PH first and it's my least favorite.

You can cover your ears and say "YOU JUST HAVE ADD LA LA LA" as many times as you like, it doesn't make me any less right. Sorry :)

All video games are toys faggot, your toys aren't better just because you don't have to read

Please stop replying to this retard guys, come on, it's clearly bait. And if not, he's just autistic. Move on.

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>all video games are toys

No shit, why do you think I just condescended you for having an emotional breakdown when I made fun of yours?

I wish you would just cut the crap and admit you have problems paying attention. At least that will all make sense.

>lost the argument
>yeah well, he's just a troll. or autistic! yeah, that's it!

see

Like I said, you keep making it easy. You have literally no basis other than going "IT'S NOT LETTING ME PLAY THE GAAAAME WAAAAAH" while you kick and stomp because you can't make your character swing a sword for the next minute.

>game grumps OOT playlist is 18 hours long

What constitutes interaction? All mediums are interactive on some level, either actively or passively. Going back to my puzzle example, just because youre not actively pressing buttons doesnt mean you aren't engaging with the game. Youre actively thinking about solutions to the puzzle and therefore interacting with it. Same goes with cutscenes, youre not engaging with the game actively, but you are emotionally, and these emotional stimulations are just as physically real as the rush of dopamine you get from successfully interacting with a game physically. All components of a video game from the gameplay to the story in all forms of delivery to the music is interactive on some level, because all mediums of art are interactive on some level.

It seems to me like Arin was likely correct in a lot of his points about Ocarina of Time, but when some folks hear they're favorite games criticized they either ignore the criticisms completely or just retort with worthless strawman arguments that don't actually address any of his points.

I agree with him. But he acted like it was objective facts.

Not the one having this "arguement", but not being able to see the merit in the others point of view, is a pretty clear indicator that no series of words are going to make you change your mind, or even consider the possiblity that you maybe be wrong. It's all opinion based at the end of the day.

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And you have literally no basis other than "NOT LISTENING! NOT LISTENING! WAHHHHH"

This

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>is a pretty clear indicator that no series of words are going to make you change your mind

Of course not. I've been playing video games longer than you've been alive and have probably held this opinion longer as well. The games that rely on cutscenes and dialogue are always the first to fall by the wayside while the ones that don't are generally the ones that stand the test of time.

Why are you guys arguing with the mong who admittedly has played battle toads for 20 years straight? I can't even think of speed runners who've played a game for that long a period of time except maybe the super Mario guy

No, my basis is: stories in games are a thing, so fucking deal with it.

I started playing Zelda with ALttP and my favorite Zelda is still Wind Waker. Fuck you.

Reminder: You cannot name a single popular mainstream game since 2007 that wasn’t influenced by one of these in some way
> Ocarina Of Time
> Mass Effect (2007)
> Assaasin’s Creed
> Super Metroid
> Castlevania: SOTN
> Half-Life 2
> Batman: Arkham Asylum
> Resident Evil 4
> Halo: Combat Evolved
> Ico (2001)
> Uncharted
> Street Fighter II

Battletoads is fucking great, get some taste. And besides, I haven't played the game for 20 years straight, I've played it for 28 years. Off and on, occasionally. It just happens to be the last game I played. It's great.

>The games that rely on cutscenes and dialogue are always the first to fall by the wayside while the ones that don't are generally the ones that stand the test of time.

AreYouSureAboutThat.mp4

Name other games you play that you consider great then.

>stories in games are a thing

They are, and the ones that don't rely on them are better. So fucking deal with it :)

>omg why does it take me time to drive to supermarket to get my mountain dew, i want it NOW
>what the fuck, why do i need to wait a couple seconds in between each breath, i should be able to breathe as fast as I want to! life = 1/10 too much waiting

Yes. Prove me wrong, children. Prove me wrong!

>Of course not
Ok. Then why continue replying? Pretty sad and childish way to get attention if you claim to be >playing video games longer than I've been alive

Yeah, I guess that's why people didn't like Final Fantasy, huh?

....oh wait.

Same reason you continue replaying to me, I guess. I'm enjoying talking to ya'll.

>Bulging eyes thumbnail
Opinion disregarded
Fuck off

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The funny thing is you're only exaggerating a little bit to the kind of person arin is
youtube.com/watch?v=qol5DA8ZUeA

That game definitely does not hold up well at all. In any way. Even Snatcher holds up better. At least the graphics don't look like cat vomit in Snatcher.

No one will remember Metal Gear in 50 years, and Hideo Kojima's only legacy will be his inevitable sexual assault case.

Why do retards never learn to not reply to ACfag

How did he know to use the hammer?

This. People always bring up Arin's gaming abilities or accuse him of having ADD or something instead of actually refuting any of his points.

Because all his points are fucking stupid non-issues that are made into issues by his sheer incompetence and impatience.

I'm just curious to find out whether or not this is bait, or you actually are a 35+ year old man who is autistically dedicated to battletoads, and refuses to play a game with anymore than 1 second of story. I'm leaning more towards bait. Menus must be difficult for you.

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I can sort of see the guys point of good games not needing cutscenes to be good or to even tell a story. My favorite game of all time, Abe's Odyssey is exactly like that, where the world you play in gives you enough context as for why the PC wants to leave and how dire his circumstances are, but I still feel like hes trolling since he hasn't given any examples besides battle toads , hasn't refuted any of my other arguments and hasn't listed any other examples of good games that dont utilize cutscenes. I can think of a couple off the bat like the aforementioned Abe's odyssey and binding of Issac and Minecraft but in all this time he has yet to give another example.

There's a difference between criticism and whining because you're literally too impatient to play the game.

Remember children, when somebody comes along and criticizes your rose-tinted nostalgia, cover your ears and kick and scream like a child until the nuisance goes away.

Command and Conquer.

I thought the levels of story in Breath of the Wild were perfectly acceptable. That was the first good 3D Zelda game.

You just did it again

>"hrr game bad cuz i gotta wait for platforms to move to jump on them"
>"thats retarded, you're retarded"
>"OH IM SORRY AM I OFFENDING YOUR SENSE OF NOSTALGIA???"

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What an annoyingly safe pick. A game where all the dialogue and cutscenes save for the beginning, tutorial level and final boss are all entirely optional.

Kicking and screaming like a child while sporting a badly darwn Japanese pedophile cartoon drawing in your post is still kicking and screaming like a child.

see

>Im going to make your argument null and void by using a youtube show where its more focused on talking and not focusing completely on the game

Everytime

>are all entirely optional.

By George, I think we're getting somewhere. It's nice to have options, isn't it?

And besides, what batter way to criticize a moldy old Zelda game than comparing it to a much better designed, newer Zelda game?

>Liked BOTW's story
>Weakest story in the entire series Coming from a fan of the series
aaaaand we're done here. Wrap it up guys, bait confirmed.

Can't believe I've been feeding this guy (You)'s.

What do you mean "again"? You realize that "I don't want to wait for an enemy to reveal its weakness" isn't the best criticism for a game with sword combat? Especially when you have many options of taking down an enemy other than said sword?

Your willful obtuseness doesn't make you look more intelligent on this chinese beetle farming board

I don't even know what BOTW's story was since I skipped all of it. I just know that it was barely there and because of that the game was better for it.

Imagine being so in denial that you argue against a game that won Game of the Year and say that its bad

I'll remember metal gear. And then I'll make metal gear nostalgia threads on Yea Forums to make OTHER people remember metal gear! Mwah hah hah hah!

Tell me which argument you believe arin is correct about, nigger

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>Less story good
>More story bad

You realize the Zelda series relies on its story, right?

All of them.

el goblina thinks she could be a model
lmfao party rockers in the house tonight.

Gimme an example, i'm not gonna sit here typing for half an hour explaining all the reasons Arin is wrong, someone else already did that here

>You realize the Zelda series relies on its story, right?

My favorite story is the one about the elf boy who gets a sword and has to go save the princess from the evil wizard/pig guy. The details in between are a bit fuzzy, but I sure have fun playing around in the world.

Up until Breath of the Wild, apparently.

Does the game have a story?
>yes
Can it be turned off?
>yes
Does the game have music?
>yes
Can it be turned off?
>yes
Does the game have gameplay?
>yes
Can it be turned off?
>.. Yes? You can not play it I g-
Fantastic, 10/10 game, context be dammed.

It sounds to me like to you a game needs and only ever needs a progression system and a system in place that impedes your progression and that all other aspects of a game are unnecessary, and if implemented should be entirely optional. I dont know how youre going to push this as gospel considering the two decades of virtually every forum interested in video games disagreeing with that notion , which you should know is the case if your claiming to have been gaming for that long, but more power to you Seymour Skinner.

jon and chris are based. arin needs putting down

what happened with barry and chris? KI never heard that

I'm frankly shocked some of these western AAA games even bother having gameplay at all at this point.

Push a button and win and get that instant hit of dopamine. Why doesnt every game do that ?

Video games have been steadily getting better since the days of Ocarina, user. Not worse. The future is bright. It's the past that sucks.

never proven real or fake
but both have proven multiple times to be worthless pieces of shit.