How does Yea Forums feel about Google's steam knock off?

how does Yea Forums feel about Google's steam knock off?

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netflix for games makes it sound more like another game streaming service. If that's where the industry is headed, kill me now.

Cloud streaming and all that jazz isn’t at a point where a service based on it could be of high-quality.

About the same as Xbox Gamepass and EA origin access, meh.

It literally IS heading in that direction Yea Forumsro. This shit happened to movies, books, and pretty much every other form of media we consume.

>google
>gaming
lol

Games still can't be streamed without noticeable input lag

It would change the kinds of games that would be possible to make, since it's impossible to get around certain minimum input lag with streamed games. And unlike movies and books, it would be impossible to actually archive games without the source executable being run on the server, and all games in that era would be forever be unplayable once they get shut down.

The target audience for this has google fiber tho

With American infrastructure? Dead on arrival.

I will never depend entirely on digital copies.

wouldnt that be an origin knock-off since origin is the one with a subscription model like netflix

This already exists in multiple forms. It's probably going to die off like Google+

Not only is the concept of streaming games without lag premature, I don't think very many devs would like to pay to support it when its easier for them to make games that are hosted on the consumer's device after transferring data once and also older gamers would rather have offline play and modablity possible so they wouldn't support it on principle.

I've seen these threads but never participated, is what I said basically the consensus? Because it seems rather blatant.

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Still waiting for that antitrust smackdown.

it's not about bandwidth, it's response time

I wouldn't be so quick to discredit the idea. It wasn't possible years ago with the Phantom, but it may be possible now, especially with all this "groundbreaking new tech" coming out later this year. The game industry is hitting a wall anyway, as the time spent to make things look better vs the money spent and recovered in sales is starting to take its toll, which has been happening for awhile now.

I get the feeling after such a long time of dominance, Gaben and Valve have gotten sloppy and lazy. They aren't ready for the new competition, and the competition knows it. They smell blood.

>It would change the kinds of games that would be possible to make, since it's impossible to get around certain minimum input lag with streamed games. And unlike movies and books, it would be impossible to actually archive games without the source executable being run on the server, and all games in that era would be forever be unplayable once they get shut down.

Exactly. Games as a service are the future

>Netflix for games
so it'll start out great and then slowly ruin it's own library by filling 90% of it with 'original' garbage?
great, can't wait

Is it happening?
The great comeback of point and click games?

I can't see it working for anything that needs less than 200ms response time, so basically rpgs and strategy, or you play on easy since you'll be tanking hits

Games as a service is the future.
The future is games as shit.

Isn't that just the Xbox Game Pass? It's Microsofts only 'innovation' this generation and its library is going to be better than anything google will launch with

>Pajeet CEO takes over company
>Immediately becomes worse

Why do people keep letting this happen?

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Great, gaming's probably going to become a thousandfold more casualized for sure if this goes through.

But how else do you guys think this is going to affect the industry?
Would more people opt to pay for a subscription-based streaming service through google than to own a physical console?
Will we see companies like sony and microsoft pay studios more for exclusivity?
What if studios just outright refuse to let google stream their games?

oh I agree.
steam was especially shit in the later half of this decade.
I would even argue post-2013 steam has been garbage.

Times have changed. Everyone agrees games as a service will be the only games to ever exist in the future, as points out. It's gonna happen very soon. We literally can't stop it.

It will go through and make billions of $$$. We lost.

>google tries to do something that makes original thing insanely affordable and 10x as strong
>industry lobbies and prevents google from doing thing
>get stuck paying 100+ dollars for internet

mcfucking kill myself

>ANOTHER
>FUCKING
>CLIENT

Fighting games would cease to exist.

I'm waiting for the "It'll be possible to steam games with 5G!" argument to come up just to get more people on board with that tech. I can't fucking wait for my fair share of memory problems and headaches when they install one of those ugly ass towers outside of my house.

oh cool. Will it have a 5ms input lag?

This isn't even good baiting. Dumb kid.

I’m happy I have a backlog of loli doujins because gaming seems to be dying

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We just call it 'cinematic experience' and the console peasants will eat it up.

I don't really like streaming services. I like looking through game files, messing around with music files, etc. and streaming means you won't be able to do that anymore.

We really just need to legalize "piracy".

disruptive. pivotal.

>Everyone agrees games as a service will be the only games to ever exist in the future
You’re a colossal retard if you think that will ever come to pass. The industry is far too large to accommodate EVERY single possible game on these shitty streaming services, which ultimately means many indie devs are going to basically create a new renaissance of gaming in which modable, DRM-free game’s can be sold just like in the days of old.

But by all means, lie down and die for your shitty streamable AAA games that can’t be modded or altered in any way. Traditional gaming isn’t going away just because Gewgle found a new way to profit off of gaming.

>google
More censored games

>This shit happened to movies, books, and pretty much every other form of media we consume.
I wonder if I'll live to see the day video games stop doing shit that's counter-intuitive to gameplay itself just because other media did it too. I guess when games become 90% movies streaming won't make much of a difference.

It's tolerable depending on the game. For example: turn based strategy games.

This is lEA dream.
GAME AS A SERVICE

I chuckled, then died a little inside.

it will crash and burn unless it has a way to instantly load games from the internet, which it won't because that's impossible.

Why does every retard in this thread assume its going to be streaming? It will be a monthly fee where you can download and install an unlimited number of games under the service but terminates if you stop paying, so basically access to a ton of games instead of movies for a monthly flat fee like netflix

>click start
>google server runs a VM instance linked to your account
>all data you need to send are inputs
>receive a video stream
>impossible
Truly sorcery.

I'm sure it won't be abandoned in a month and replaced with a redundant service because some rando hipster at Google loses interest in the project and is replaced by another rando hipster.

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Streaming is the future of video games.

It will fail the same way Google+ failed

not if they stop selling capable hardware to end consumers. All you need is a specialized chip for decoding a video stream. No more general purpose CPUs, no GPU, no more 3rd party software period. The tech giants regret making open, customizable computing the norm, so the sooner they can make the new generation forget what it was like to install their own software the better.

>books
what

isn't Google already making some steaming shit for ubisoft? Are they going to compete with themselves?

>input lag out the ass

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enjoy your half second of input latency
it'd work great for a lot of "games," though

>Another company think it can beat steam
Foolishness Google, foolishness.

Can't wait to stream Candy Crush on the Google Ouya!
Nintendo, Microsoft, and Sony are fucked!

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That's another issue entirely. Run a game instantly through internet is possible though.
Also

You're insane, that will never happen. People would buy parts from China like always, and build shit from scratch.

If it has AAA games that you can download and play for 7.99 a month with online included to play with friends then I can see it being worth something. But if they're going for a streaming service they'll be in for a rude awakening when they realize that unless you live in SK/Japan well over 50% of people won't have the Internet speeds to compete

there's a reason microsoft's gamepass is better than psnow, you can download the games to avoid the plethora of issues cloud based shit has

>Yea Forumsro
Fucking kill yourself

Who even said they're planning a game streaming service? I read it more as a flatrate for vidya. Kinda like PS Plus, except you have access to every game in the store.

It's going to be like that service-based model Linus shilled a few months ago, but even shittier cause Google keep cutting corners everywhere, but less expensive cause it's going to be subsidised.

Google needs to take over the internet business first and give everyone their 1 Tb/s fiber-optic network first.

Might apply to Google just to do it

movies, books, and pretty much every other form of media do not suffer from input lag

>streaming
i might be autistic but how does this work? presumably its running off a PC and it gets sent back to you but how many fucking computers would they need ?

Well we don't *stream* books, but we download them from, e.g. Amazon onto our kindles. And Amazon maintains the right to delete those books whenever they want. You do not legally own the books you download.

In 2009, Amazon actually remotely deleted two books, "1984" and "Animal Farm" from people's kindles despite the fact that they bought the books.
nytimes.com/2009/07/18/technology/companies/18amazon.html

The issue with game streaming is one of the largest markets in the world (america) doesn't have internet capable of handling it. Korea and japan both can, which is why they've had successful game streaming services for the better part of 2 decades (korea opting out in the early 2000s for a pc방 model instead, japan keeping with streaming). The states barely have internet capable of online play involving packet loads of 3000 or more. It's not a feasible reality without heavy optimizations.

It'll probably play like world of warcraft. If I recall, the game is streamed as well, but good luck figuring out exactly how. Shit like that is a closely guarded secret for whatever reason.

>In 2009, Amazon actually remotely deleted two books, "1984" and "Animal Farm" from people's kindles despite the fact that they bought the books.
>1984
This couldn't have been a coincidence

They won't be able to take away the good stuff we have now or the entirety of the indie scene. It's fortunate I grew out of this when I did saving myself the worst of it, when I thought it was getting bad back then.

This could be the killing blow on user generated mods unless Blender spontaneously becomes extremely good and totally pulls the floor out from under Autodesk and Adobe's monopoly on standard, premium middleware.

As much progress as Blender has made, I wouldn't count on it. They've got a long uphill battle to keep fighting.

>An ultra WOKE tech company that's known for excessively banning people from their services for whatever bullshit reason they came up that day will be launching digital video game store that will function like streaming service and will be tied to every other product of theirs.

Sign me up!

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this is easy. hundreds of virtual machines running on powerful servers.

This. It’s just suits trying to muscle into a market they don’t understand.

>google
i can only imagine "google games" being a bigger shovelware distributor than steam

also why compete with steam if they could just buy them out

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I hate the future.

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the only way i can think of for this to be feasible is to force people to download the raw data (assets) and run the executable through an online VM. and i still there's a problem with that model. straight up streaming a game running on a dedicated machine that handles everything is bad. just look at playstation's attempt at this.

Ah yes, a google knock off. Remember their Skype knock off? Or their facebook knock off? Of course you don't. I'm pretty sure the Zune had a larger userbase than half these "competitive services" Google's launched and buried.

Or they attract an even bigger audience that doesn't know what they're getting into.
Seeding the youngest generations now for tomorrow's machinations.

True. I live in rural Germany and my internet speed is like 5mbps when I'm lucky. I can't even watch Youtube in 1080p

>Write bad review of the game
>Banned for hate speach

Why would it be different this time? Game streaming has sucked ass everytime it has been tried


Also it is more expensive for consumers in the long run. Streaming is cuckoldry.

what exactly does this have to do with Autodesk and Adobe? Are you saying CAD tools will end up streaming only as well? I know Adobe is now subscription based, like they're pretending their CC is some kind of cloud service already.

Better start hoarding games now. You best be having a massive backlog before streaming takes over. Remember kids, if you don't have 3-2-1 copies of everything, then you truly don't own it nor can you rely on it for the future.

And see this is why I stopped buying anything off Steam or other platforms like it. If GOG goes under I'll just pirate what little is worth bothering with.

It would be a different business model than Steam if Netflix is the reference.

Honestly, considering the wide range of games available and how expensive companies enjoy selling them...i don't see a relevant library having a cheap monthly fee.

Normies don't care, nobody cares but us

If they mean you download and play all games for one fee, cool.

If they mean streaming, it wont work at all. Latency kills the entire platform.

>western shit

Indifferent.

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You vastly overestimate the amount of people who build PCs.

>using google

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Is this the next VR or the next Motion Controls ?

>streaming
It's going to be shit.

People want shit. Everyone is gradually being accustomed to getting fucked in the ass and asking for more. Soon nobody will remember how it used to be.

>posted from Android device while running Chrome after hours google searching porn

How did this one post at the beginning of the thread make everyone think it's actually a streaming service, when the more likely scenario is that it'll just be a subscription-based access to a library of games?

This. The younger generation is so willing to gobble up shit like fortnite in any ay they can.

So the Google Play store?

this fucking pajeet really need to be tortured A LOT before getting publicly executed

Well, Android is pretty successful (literally a cheap iPhone knock-off).
Google Chrome is also very succesful (cheap Firefox knock off).
In fact, nothing they make is really innovative in nature.. Google maps.. just another GPS /mapping service.. Gmail.. just another email client service... Google Translate.. wow a fucking translator..

The question isn't "is it a cheap knock off", but rather "how good is it?"
And admittedly, Google Plus was really bad. That was a huge failure.

Google need to sack this pajeet if they don't wanna go bankrupt.

It doesn't. I replied to the wrong thread.
It's a different topic that doesn't even matter when content is hosted remotely and streamed.

Needless to say though, content creation and editing has gotten more restricted to the average hobbyist, and the standards are inherently more complex.

There are CoD videos which go into tier lists for weapons based on kill times in the milliseconds.

If the most braindead gaming audience cares that much about getting an edge how will they respond when you offer a product where you have latency on the top of your normal lag?

Streaming will not work in gaming, probably ever until we get something better than google fiber worldwide.

Is that what they're making?
Another online storefront?
Even games on the whole as a service is far from an original idea and has time and time again failed and will likely continue to fail.

One would question the difference between the console they wish to produce and the OUYA or the Nvidia Shield which has a set-top box version and the games as a service bullshit in the form of GeForce Now.
Google owns android, would it just be another android console like those 2?

I feel like there is no room for competition and all that happened is some dickhole in a 3 piece suit saw.
>Videogames make billions of dollars each year.
>Lets get in on that.

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>it's another "It's going to revolutionize the industry!" gimmick
because Netflix and streaming are as intertwined as it can get.

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I can't be fucked to subscribe to the Humble Monthly Bundle, and that's a legit good deal with decent games that you keep.

Google can fuck off.

The project is called "Google Stream"

im sure other companies wont hesitate to work with google
but i feel like most consumers dont want to buy games from them tho unless they offer exclusivity

thats how other steam competitors have been running their shit from what ive noticed

>M-MUH INPUT LAG
Retards they could literally just let you download the game like in PS Now.

Will go as well as Google +

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>streaming
>games
Fuck that.

Or he just compared it to netflix because that's a hugely popular thing that will get peoples attention, and the actual similarity is just that it's a thing you pay monthly to get access to a library of things.

Like fucking hell, if someone said they were launching "netflix but with books" do you think you would literally be reading the pages of a book in a streaming video?

will this use TACHYONS to stream the games or will it be steam, but instead of """owning""" the digital games you just get to rent them?

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Consoleshitters are fine with 30+ ms response time.

they were removed because somehow it was illegal versions from some weird publisher or whatever, and there was still another version of 1984
both are there now
you actually think that is going to happen, except maybe from some chink publisher who doesn't give two shits about customer relations?
the backlash would be insane, there's a reason no one has done it in all these years that steam has been going

G+ is extremely cringe
I am glad that shit is closng down

You mean gametap?

If it could run smooth i would embrace it. Why waste space and fragment my HD when i can use google servers for it.

Imagine how much pc parts are going to cost when the average consumer stops buying them in favor of these little set top boxes that just stream everything into your house. The personal computer market as a whole will die off.

>games as a service

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>If it could run smooth
Streaming your PC to your TV with an ethernet doesn't even run smooth and latency-free.

>games as a service
Fuck that.

You can download on PS now idiot

>Google/Netflix releases gaming service
>all major banks and payment processors begin to march in lockstep and slowly cancel/refuse service to all the small-time game services all the way to going after Steam, Origin and GOG


I can already see it

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>In 10 years, you'll be paying $x/month for vidya subscriptions
Fucking disgusting and I thought season passes were bad

>streaming your games
enjoy your latency bros

I've used Steam in-home streaming and it is horrible. It would have to be downloaded. I mean, it would be okay for turn-based strategy games, but that's about it.

Hivemind

Look what happened to battlefield. Normies are very slowly starting to smell the bullshit.

>monthly subscriptions are new and could flip an industry on it's head

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I meant to reply to and

>>all major banks and payment processors begin to march in lockstep and slowly cancel/refuse service to all the small-time game services all the way to going after Steam, Origin and GOG
Why would they do that?
Also just buy steam cards

If 1 million people wanted this service, that is 1 million dedicated hardware setups, at even only just $1000 each, would cost google 1 billion dollars to setup even before actually turning the power on.

And 1 million would be shit sales for literally any aspect of the entertainment industry.

The crux of the streaming service is that it puts the burden of purchasing the gaming computer on the provider rather than the end user. This of course 10 years after basically every internet cafe dissolved, where they only had a dozen to a hundred computers.

Literally so stupid of an idea that it could ruin even google into absolvency. But really, 2000 people will get this dumb shit and the service will be dead in 2 years tops.

I know the issues, i'm just saying if somehow i could give the heavy lifting of running these games to a third party while i just enjoy the gameplay. Basically relieving my cpu/gpu/hd from all that work. I'm in for that.

The infrastructure for it doesn't exist yet. At least not in the US. It's going to Hiroshima.

Anybody remember the phantom?

No, the biggest tech company in the world getting into an industry is what could flip it on it's head.

Why are you so desperate to defend your illogical assumption that you double down and start making illogical assumptions for everything else?

If it's streaming games then it's retarded and will never work for anything more than a few games that don't care about input lag.
If they let you download the games then it's like gamefly or something and is hardly anything new.

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Considering most of the money in games is now in the competitive multiplayer scene, google could not get more retarded.

Maybe with fiber optic internet in the future. I don't know how delayed that would be.

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More bandwidth doesn't fix latency.

onlive did this years ago and went out of business for it. Google is not original. Fuck em.

I have fiber now, as do many people in major metropolitan areas.

I would rather lick 2 month old smegma from gaben's cock that give a penny to the rotten cyberpunk totalitarian magacorp that is google

This is the ultimate solution to piracy. The thing the entire industry has been working towards.

sounds like an excuse to see what people are playing and create a database of people who play "controversial" games

Doesn't light travel faster than an electrical current with resistance? I don't know much about physics.

>most of the money in games is now in the competitive multiplayer scene
You're delusional. The top grossing games are mobile gachashit, all day every day. Competitive games get a marketing bump from you idiots on livestreams and events, but will never, ever make bank like FGO, etc.

all of these still have physical copies being sold up to this day tho

This isn't about generational gaps or age as much as it is about how invested people are in games. Casuals don't care as much about anti consumer shit for the same reason elders don't care about all the jewish shit done by cable companies. Even if Google normalizes streaming they will only be able to pander to the lowest denominators, and they will fail because there are already companies fighting over this crowd and they have something they don't, franchises being held hostages which forces everybody who wants to play the game to bite the bullet and pay for shit like season pass, DLC, microtransactions, etc.

They can already see what we masturbate to. Your Skyrim mods are irrelevant in comparison.

>The top grossing games are mobile gachashit

Those aren't video games. They're video gambling/video poker. No different from slots etc.

>it's an illogical assumption to link the idea of Netflix of games with streaming but perfectly logical to link the idea with shit MMORPGs have been doing for almost 2 decades
>disregarding the fact that google already has a hand in the mobile video game market.
Why are you so desperate in defending your own notions that you completely forget facts? or could it be that you're cherry-picking what facts you like?

>NO! We don't have ENOUGH control and ENOUGH money! We need to enter video games too!

Fuck off you shitty megacorp

I'm fucking scared
If anybody can make streaming for games work it's google

of course, but why would they skip out on obtaining any more slither of info on you to blackmail later on if necessary?

Oh boy, a game streaming service. That has never been tried before, and certainly didn't fail miserable every time!

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Google is a pandemonium monkey

ISPs lobbied to make sure it will never happen.

>Pushing game streaming service.
>Meanwhile ISPs are rolling out monthly data caps.

That's not even the worst aspect of this.

If they want a decent library they will need gamedev support.
There's literally no decent model for most dev that would give them more than just releasing the game on store (physical or virtual). If you pay the dev a fixed amount, they get fucked because there's too many AAA company, so you need a huge amount of subscriber. If you pay them per hours played on the platform, solo game gets fucked by multiplayer ones, even then you still need to get a cut big enough to make up for a regular sell (60/70$ vs a cut of x$/month)

Fortnite makes way more money than FGO

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>megacorp
As if they are worse than companies like EA.

>turn it on it's head
it's dickhead maybe while google sucks it off then gets thrown out of bed like a cheap whore because they're trying the same shit that every companies tries and fails miserably at.
ouya, gametap, onlive, gaikai, psnow. all dead cause they tried this RETARDED shit. Why do they keep doing it?

>sony makes a netflix for games; no big deal, no change
>microsoft makes a netflix for games; no big deal, no change
>ea makes a netflix for games; no big deal, no change
>apple and/or google does something vidya; HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS, IT'S REVOLUTIONARY! LITERALLY, NOTHING LIKE THIS HAS BEEN DONE BEFORE!

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You'll just have to pay more when you go over the cap. This is what corporations want anyway; you paying more.

Sure but they already have enough now that whatever fear you have they can get more of you is misplaced. Since they already know where you are, read your emails, see what you search and the websites you browse through.
I mean, this week Chrome had a bug that people could control all your machine from the fucking browser. I mean, your games are nothing in comparison to the profile they can get of you at this very instant.

The only reason I'm not too bothered is because none of the AAA devs will support this. EA, Ubi, Activision, Nintendo, Sony, Microsoft, they will avoid Google.
What is scary is if these companies just make their own streaming service and have that be the default to play games.

But they fucking are. EA maybe a ravenous mass of flesh that consumes every developer we once loved, but google is an army of drones and security cameras that want to know everything about you and make sure you’re doing what they perceive as right.

Except people are exited for both microsoft and google's streaming platforms you mongoloid.

>streaming games service
Yeah, it worked so well for all the other services just like it.

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remember googles twitch knockoff, youtube gaming?
yeah...

Who the hell mentioned MMOs? And mobile games have nothing to do with streaming. You still download them to your phone, you aren't streaming them from somewhere else. Everything you say makes no sense. If it's so obviously illogical to make a game streaming service why do you think nobody at google could have thought the same thing? Are you and everyone else in the thread just so desperate to feel smart that you'll project the dumbest possible scenario onto a news story just so you can say the obvious criticism?

see, the mistake is thinking that they are ever satisfied, you know? if they could control your bowel movements, they would get majority shares on it just to have a hand it in for 'just in case'

Someone fill the maze for me while I take a shit.

haven't you heard of google cloud compute? Anybody with a google account can run a virtual machine with a custom amount of memory and CPUs, along with using virtual unlimited storage. How do you think they pull that off?

I remember On Live. When I got the Xperia Play it came with a free trial, shit was horrible. There was like a 1-2 second lag on everything, and the framerate and resolution would randomly dip all the time.

This is the most corporate and generic innovation, you can just imagine some suit declaring "Netflix but video games" and a bunch of faceless suits declaring it to the be second coming of jesus because Netflix is such a big meme. Of course this somehow ignores that the fundamentals of the whole thing are stupid, you think they'll be able to stream 1920x1080 at 60fps in high quality or without lag? i don't know the numbers but i'd imagine the amount of information that gets shoved from your GPU to your screen is pretty massive. and secondly this is just the final evolution of games as a service where you have to pay to access "your" games. It's entirely motivated by profit (obviously) where instead of paying 30 bucks for your game you have to pay 30 a month just for access, look at the Photoshop model shits scummy as fuck but they wouldn't do it if it wasn't profitable. also fuck google they're probably the scummiest company on the planet right now

redditors like you don't know about the image editing feature, huh

>that image
fuck

I don't think they'll ever be. I'm saying it's too late now for you to be afraid. Because this train already arrived and left the station. You're in the system.

Well alright, but they already control everything anyway, so there's not much that can be done.

I hope so. PS Now was hot garbage before that option.

fugg

Who is this Everyone and how do I stop him from callously ruining vidya?

yeah man, definitely, you are correct. it's not even a fear, since everyone is affected and even if they were to say shit about you then all you have to do is remind people that the only way they even knew is that they were watching the whole time. People won't give a fuck about what you do really, since they have dirty shit to their name as well
Only thing I am saying is to just realize its happening, and this isnt merely about profits

EA doesn't feed me feminist "papers" when I look for unrelated crap or sell my search history to the Chinese.
EA is video game evil, Google is real world evil.

>trying to make Netflix for games
>when American ISPs still have a stronghold that makes everyone their bitch
I don't get it.

>streaming service
>downloading games
Nigger do you know what "streaming" means?

they made that change in september, I didn't know they made downloading available

>453890498
>missing every point this hard
>still trying to act like the smart one
Not even worthy of a (you) at this point.

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Do you not know? PS now lets you download the ps4/ps2 games right to your system and play them directly instead of having to stream, now.

imagine having mouse lag at least as high as network ping

Google is an ISP. Google Fiber.

I'll stop playing new games if this becomes the standard and there is no option.
I don't have netflix, spotify or any of that shit because I like to have the files and if something is exclusive to netflix I can still pirate it, but game streaming is a different ballgame.
I might be fucked.

I'm pretty sure this service would only work well for twats living in coast cities paying 100 dollars a month just for fiber

Then again that's who's making this service

“On its head” my sides

>streaming games

Is Yea Forums now too underage to remember?

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The Megacorps still make Google their bitch tho.

If I can download the game in my end I don't see any problem

Yeah but due to the monopolization by Comcast, Verizon etc Google fiber is exceptionally limited. They've just recently cancelled plans of expansion

The only good thing about streamed game services is I'll finally make a start on my backlog

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Oh i remember. But google has the big guns to do it.

>google
fuck no

Which means the hardware has to run it you fucking dumbass.

it's gonna be piece of shit like Google+, wtih more casualized games with unbearable input delay and a inflated monthly subscription on top of your shitty internet service that got bottled necked by greedy corporations that brided a damn pajeet to kill off Net Neutrality.

The future, gaming wise, is gonna be one cluster fuck of a service.

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No it doesn't.
It says you can download them separately from the streaming service.

alright NOW I'm onboard.

Netflix content is non-interactive. They own racks in all major nodes with their most popular content hosted directly there. Games can't be done the same way and would suffer from input lag.

Do you like monster hunter?

>old media has to say "netflix for games" because Boomers have no idea what the fuck Steam is
just pathetic

google can suckle on my fat chode

>Netflix content is non-interactive
they have a couple cyoa things and telltale minecraft

You don't know what it is either apparently.

Makes me happy that my backlog is so goddamn enormous that I'll be dead long before I ever complete it.

I think the idea is you download and play a game whenever you like as long as you've paid your monthly subscription

>Streaming games
I will never do that.

Then it's not a streaming service.

The tech is inherently the same the flaw is the same, you'll always have delay when streaming a service especially so when it's an interactive medium, back and forth from client to server that was entirely why onlive failed. Unless there's some gamebreaking technology that google now has there'll still be inherently a delay and quality loss hence why PSNow streaming isn't booming in popularity

Not him but- that's what makes me think they might. Or else they've lost their minds.

>image editing feature
What the fuck

>Project Stream

It's definitely a streaming service

I think it's because of how Google runs. They have a lot of bets going on at once, and the best way to get a promotion is to lead one and release a new product.

There's a decent chance that the people in charge know it won't work, but also know that it's going to get them promoted so they don't care.

Look at fucking Google+. I know someone that was on that team; she told me it was a few people at top angling for a promo, new employees that didn't know any better, and complete dumbasses. All the intelligent employees fucking noped out of there ASAP.

It's up to us to save Steam

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SO TO GET ANYBODY HERE TO READ MY POSTS I HAVE TO USE A TWITTER SCREENSHOT? AHHHHHHHHHH

This. Guaranteed google will focus on mobile style games because they’re cheaper to make and make more money.

The centralisation of games and movies etc is cancer.
Steam is cancer
google is cancer
its all cancer.

Steam isn't going anywhere, your hardware isn't going anywhere, nvidia etc aren't going anywhere, there'll likely still be inherent flaws of input lag, delay, connection issues, internet speed requirements, cost... etc

There's plenty of other technology companies that have tried this the only reason this is getting any headroom is because Google can throw another product under it's wings which will most likely end up in their graveyard. They'll be seen by people who aren't technology-keen as being innovaters but in reality the patents etc have been around for over a decade

>everything ha donovo
>will upload any and all personal data you enter into your computer to be resold and analyzed
>will brick your machine if they detect wrongthink
based googledaddy

It's both humorous and disturbing that governments are blatantly accepting monopolization.

Google can't even make Youtube profitable

It appears that their strategy to do so is to demonetize videos for bogus shit so all the advertising proceeds go to them.

>TDW we were promised cyberpunk and it turned out more horrific than we could have anticipated

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Oh yay, I've always wanted my house to be a fucking Dave and Busters.

>how does Yea Forums feel about Google's steam knock off?
In theory it sounds good cause it'll mean reviving older games from obsolete consoles or dead studios but with Google trying this out it'll probably be shit

Forgot my picture for those that don't have those abominations in their country.

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Still not seeing how this'll work just from an economical stand point.

>every game feels like an input laggy cinematic experience
count me out bros, glad I got to play games before they had you putting in quarters from your own pc

Light still has a delay

Reminder to not buy this streaming trash

Electricity travelling through copper moves at something like 95.1% the speed of light. The difference in ping between copper and fiber optic wont be that much.

They laughed at us for years
Underestimating our advantages
Claiming the genre isn't fun
Well Yea Forumsirgin faggots who's laughing now

I love playing games with 1th of a second of input lag! It wont catch on.

I don't see people taking to it. Normalfags love action multiplayer games. Stuff like Fortnite and League would never fucking work through streaming. There's power in the preferences of normalfags. If anything, niche games Yea Forumsirgins play fit streaming more. JRPGs, VNs, stuff like that.

it'll be monthly payment of something like $20 or $120 for a year

what if it's like PS+ and you can download and play the game for as long as you're paying for the service? Although the advantage of this services would be that instead of 2 you'll have access to like a hundred at the same time.

And just like Netflix, new game releases won't be available on its day of release and there'll be a monthly rotation where new games will be added while some will be removed. That way it could encourage people to buy games too.

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antitrust and split up of Alphabet is imperative for preserving democracy

why would it matter? they make billions already

Can't wait for every publisher to have their own streaming service and then start pulling their game from other services.
The same shit happened with netflix.

it is a very good thing and it NEEDS to be the only way to play games so we can end piracy forever and stop those leeches from destroying the economy

Yeah but think of it this way. Instead of offloading the cost of buying hardware to the people who want to play games, the streaming service is taking up these costs.
For every person who would want to play a game, the streaming service needs 1 piece of hardware capable of playing that game then streaming it. Imagine a platform the size of Steam, which has 12-18 million people online at once. Each one of those would need a corresponding machine to stream the game to them. If this machine is expected to play a variety of games and stream them, it needs to be good, which means expensive.

How exactly is this model more economically viable than the current model?
I mean, I know it'll be a monthly fee. But with the initial cost of this being so massive, will a monthly fee ever recoup that initial cost? And even if it does, wouldn't a service like Xbones game pass just be superior anyway since it's a monthly fee without the need for all that hardware?

Physical media is dying and I fucking hate it.

Why would devs agree to put their games on this, anyway? They're better off selling individual copies to you for 60$ plus DLCs

Oh boy time for GAME STREAMING, are you ready to NEVER OWN A VIDEO GAME AGAIN? This shift for "Convenience" that also happens to mean you don't own anything is hilarious. It's no wonder it has so much corporate support.

Streaming games services are DOA regardless of who makes them.

I wonder what games it will have. Also people saw some stuff google was working on for the google stream and yeti and they said google is really putting in an effort for gaming.

I'm assuming l the price will be $250 - $350 for competitive prices and do a trial period before marking the price. Even then Google is able to afford an experiment project. This looks like a "let's see if we can" type of perfect

why? it uses it resources that can be used for something else

Explains this abomination

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Is moot working on it?

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Old Google and new Google are two things.

It'll take off this time.

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One game yes. Also Yea Forums is going to like moots game

Yeah... people gonna be lining up for Google games... Microsoft has the best shot at this outside of Amazon. Sony can compete, but I think Amazon and Microsoft will easily take over.

not like this

Yes they are

hows that google glass goin
how's google plus, really gonna turn the social media world on its head

you don't have much understanding of innovation

Internet service is too spotty for many people and psn/live/nintendo constantly shit themselves regularly to this day. Do not want another.

lol its that game controller i used to see in hotels around the turn of the century. going to see the same success too

Is this about streaming games, or just paying monthly fee to have access to a library of games that you just download and play, like M$ Gamepass or Origin Premier?

Not him but
>google
>innovating
kek

Everything unique they tried like google glasses has been a massive failure.

i've never ever owned a video game and neither have you

Tell him thanks.

>It literally IS heading in that direction Yea Forumsro.

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Google just gonna fucking do changes to their search engine and etc to direct more traffic toward their platform rather than the other game platforms.

I'm going to put $300 into Pharaohs Revenge so I can get that stuffed banana with a moustache.

>"isn’t at a point where a service based on it could be of high-quality"
>20 years later
>"isn’t at a point where a service based on it could be of high-quality."

It has to start somewhere for it to get anywhere. If it was up to faggots like you we'd still be watching tvs with tubes in them over antenna in black and white.

I would sooner practice emulations of arcade games going for 1CC for all eternity than sooner give a single penny to game streaming services or google

The controller is possibly the worst one I've seen.

are they going to speed up the speed of light or set up a server on every single street

Google was pro-net neutrality though.

Fortnite has a tickrate of 7.

>Google is currently planning two consoles, one weaker ("Steel") and one stronger ("Titanium")

>"Steel" could be dropped because of production costs
>"Titanium" is more powerful than Xbox One X

This sounds like it's going to be an expensive failure.

>It has to start somewhere for it to get anywhere
No it really doesn't.

You think anyone was going to offer a streaming service 20 years ago at fucking dial-up speeds?

You’re so fucking dense that you completely glossed over the whole “isn’t at a point” remark, while simultaneously typing that shit up in some kind of anger-induced video game-streaming boner fantasy.
VG streaming will eventually reach a point where latency and lag isn’t an issue, but in the CURRENT TIMES, hence “isn’t at a point”, the shit isn’t feasible, you worthless fucking mongoloid.

>could do something
Probably not.

>mic button
What a surprise

How's Sony's vidya streaming service doing?

I'm betting it's not particularly profitable.

Ok
>psnow
Streaming part sucks since it uses consoles to host the game. It allows downloads
>Gamepass
Only downloads but xcloud has streaming which is average

innovation is not making something revolutionary that the world never saw but being able to market them to a large audience and make it usable

you are shitting on google glass but forget about the search engine itself, mail, cloud storage and android.

literally impossible to pirate. Your games not existing in executable form is the ultimate DRM.

>If that's where the industry is headed, kill me now.
That's where everything is headed user

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Lmao not even phones can break the apple influence, so your medium is pretty much fucked

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Nothing they can do can make people want to stream games.

Streaming games is something literally no gamer or potential gamer has ever asked for, it's a shit idea invented by marketers to impress investors. Nobody wants shit like that.

If i can't pirate it i don't play it.

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There is nothing innovative about any of those. Google has literally never invented a thing anyone would want to use. They're a fraud as a corporation, selling shit that other people came up with.

betting against them

Idiots. It's a console entry with added option of streaming to steadily get consumers used to streaming.

>everyone assuming it's streamed games rather than a subscription that allows you to download/play games for the duration of your subscription
Retards. Though it could still end up being that, since they didn't specify.

Games are one of the last things you can truly own, in terms of media. The megacorps cannot have this. They will upgrade internet infrastructure if it is necessary to destroy this.

fuck Google, not going to join any of their botnets willingly

Remember Google Glass?

Remember Orkut?

Remember Google Reader?

Remember Google Wave?

Remember Dodgeball?

Remember Google+ and Buzz?

Remember Google Video?

Remember Jaiku?

Remember Google Knol?

Remember Nexus Q?

Remember Google Notebook?

Remember Google Health?

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What exactly is this supposed to be and why? Can someone explain for a brainlet what the point is?

>Yea Forumsro
What the fuck are you even?

>color coded buttons with no distinct shapes or signs to tell which one they are if you're color-blind
>those sharp edges
>that d-pad profile
>those tiny thumbsticks
They really didn't think this through, did they?

>he doesn't know about tachyons

Im going to assume when they say "Netflix of games" they just mean a subscription version of steam, not a streaming service

for all the reasons mentioned in this thread

>another rent seeking subscription service

fuck off

It's really impressive that after all this time, Google has only five successful projects you can count on with one hand.

>Search engine
>Gmail / Drive
>AdSense
>Maps
>YouTube (they bought this one)

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Doesn't quite work that way. Electrons are pushed through in a line, they don't just travel thru it like its a hollow tube

No they definitely mean a streaming service like Netflix. The subscription would be on top of that.

If thats the case i cant wait to add this to the growing list of google projects that go nowhere

Remember Nexus 9?
Remember Picasa?
Remember iGoogle?

instead of owning games you will just pay for a service.

It's already happened to movies, tv shows, music etc. EA, Sony and M$ already have similar services but Google thinks they're new.

Didn’t discord and origin already do this?

Programmed by Pajeets so doomed to failure.

Chill out. We 4channers need to stick together.

The difference being that those things don't require insanely fast internet in order to function.

>netflix for games
so literally ouya 2.0

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bad that they going to try to the video game service. i use go duck go for searching so i don't see ads for things that i looked up.

>Netflix for games
>streaming a game
Oh man people with data caps are gonna get fucked HARD

>Remember Google Glass?
A second model has been leaked. Yet, it will never catch on.

>Remember Google Reader?
I miss it everyday as it was a decent RSS reader.

>Remember Google Wave?
Good idea, shitty release.

>Remember Google+ and Buzz?
A good idea but released way too late. If it was released prior to the Facebook boon. It would have caught on.

>Remember Google Video?
JewTube killed it

>Remember Nexus Q?
Google Home replaced it.

>Remember Google Notebook?
Google Keep and Tasks replaced it.

>Remember Google Health?
Yes, good idea with shitty release.

Shit aint gonna work with the fucking terabyte data limit all the ISPs put in place

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I hope they try and it fails abysmally like everything Google has tried to do on their own since being the lucky winner of the search engine wars.

I wanna see PlayStation, Xbox, and Nintendo all take a huge shit all over Google then have EA acquire anything proprietary they end up auctioning off so EA can do what they do best and ruin that too.

Honestly, I think that's what Google is going for. They have no history of games, but they do have a huge history of trying to break into the internet infrastructure market.

Call me a conspiracy theorist, but I feel like Google is starting this service knowing full well that it will be laggy to hell. They want people to get angry and complain to the ISPs so Google will have some leverage to try and break regulations.

Alphabet needs to be broken up as Elizabeth Warren is right (even if the cunt is retarded) as the company is a monopoly.

With movies and TV shows, you watch them once and that's pretty much it so streaming seems the perfect thing. I don't use Spotify and don't know what it's about but it's the exact opposite of that for music and games so why would I want to not own them? Sometimes I want to replay a game, sometimes i don't even finish the damn game and so on so what the fuck is the point of streaming vidya? Some sort of way to bring back renting like ye-olde days of blockbuster where you have to beat the game within a week and then return it?

>selling shit that other people came up with
which would probably be dead if they haven't bought it

Spotify works for music for a number of reasons. Music is very short and people don't generally just sit and listen to music are the two big ones. People generally listen to music while doing other things and therefore care less about the specific song they're listening to and just want to listen to something they like. This is why a random playlist with an algorithm actually works very well for music.

Almost all companies are trying to find a way to move to 'passive profit' or whatever that company calls it. Every company wants a subscription service because it eliminates competition. If you buy, say, Netflix, then your first instinct when you want to watch something is to see if it's on Netflix since you're already paying for it. If they don't have it, you might even watch something else on Netflix since you're already there. They don't need to fight Amazon or eBay for your money since they already have it. Meanwhile, with video games, every single time you want to buy a new one, you have Steam and Epic and GMG and Humble and Amazon and a dozen others, and they have to fight each other to get you buying from them every single time.

It seems like someone is shilling for google itt.

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What? He asked a question, I answered it. What part of the post sounds like shilling?

While that is very plausible I think it's far more likely this is just another foolish project started by idiots looking to get promotions.

>AAA release day
>In queue: 300000 players ahead of you

>Sometimes if I'm in the mood I'll just sit and chill so I can listen to the music I'm listening to because I want to feel the beats
>Will go out of my way to pick the music I want to listen to even if it's on while doing something else rather than listen to something new
>I only like random playlists/radio for the purpose of discovering new artists/genres I haven't heard yet to find new things to listen to
I don't understand... Are you saying that most people DON'T do all this? Am I a weirdo? I mean surely people know that music isn't just background noise and take the time to appreciate it, right?

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I hope this kills Steam

This has been in beta for like 6 months. CNBC is slow as fuck.

If that's the case, Gaben will be our only savior for the perverted shit we want to play. You know damn fucking well Google is not going to host ANYTHING with so much as a plumber's crack or hint of a shadow of cleavage. Because it's fucking Google and they're as liberal as 5 faggots in dresses running a daisy train.

Wow, google really thinks there is room for them?
They're gonna end up in the same spot as Sega, Ouya, Amazon, and Nvidia

If only, the best genre out there, yet people still fall for the rooty tooty point and shooty games.

>streaming books
Literally who does this

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There are 3 companies with betas for streaming gaming services right now. Google is only one of them. Microsoft and Nvidia also have them. And there is someone else but I can't remember who it was. I think it was actually Valve.

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Can they focus on overthrowing the ISP mafia that has it's stranglehold on the US right now?

>"GeForce NOW"
is the Nvidia. I'm in that beta.

Unless you can get input lag down to almost nothing, it never will.

"Project Xcloud" is the Microsoft one.

Get out your Netflix remote and try pushing 5 to 15 buttons a second (for commands that have to be sent to Netflix server, not just the volume button) and see what happens. That is the difference between what you're describing and gaming.

Until Telecoms get off their ass and deliver low-latency broadband connections with unlimited data, it ain't going anywhere chief if it's streaming only.

The only streaming service I use is Youtube.
Physical books
DVD's & Blu Ray
CD's

nah I'm not going to play that leftist spyware shit

Gabe for life. Gabe is luv.

Amazon's been pushing Audible and Kindle Unlimited, which are pretty much that.

Google already censors Youtube.

Their video game streaming will have worst censorship

failing to see the point considering the average book is like 3mb

Japan doesn't trust Google

engadget.com/2017/08/28/google-accidentally-broke-internet-japan/

Except those industries don't require any input from the user outside of fast forwarding/rewinding, or going forward/back a page. Imagine if every third of a second your input wasn't registered for another third of a second.

Japan can.

Fuck Steam

If Japan took all their games and left Steam for a Japanese clone, Steam would be fucked.

The point is that the world's largest book distributor is pushing streaming books, user.

>ItStinks.wav

Say goodbye to mods forever

Google Fiber admitted later that Google was never serious about being an ISP

>how do you feel about some soulless corporates preying on the mentally challenged
Bad but I take comfort in knowing that ultimatelly it's their own fault for being oxygen wasting NPCs.

you're underestimating the market for all custom PCs, not just gaming. you're also overestimating how much of a market needs to exist to get some PCBs out of china. the market is bigger than it's ever been, and yet that market was already strong when the base for people building PCs was 1/10th of what it is today. even if the major chip makers stopped making socketed chips, chinks would still find a way, as evidenced by various products you can buy from china that shouldn't exist, like socketed laptop chips and mining GPUs that can be used for gaming with modded drivers. the idea that out segment of gaming is totally doomed because some other segment is growing a lot is retarded.

Silicon Valley gave up on the future

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universal_memory

Universal memory refers to a hypothetical computer data storage device combining the cost benefits of DRAM, the speed of SRAM, the non-volatility of flash memory along with infinite durability. Such a device, if it ever becomes possible to develop, would have a far-reaching impact on the computer market.

For a memory technology to be considered a universal memory, it would need to have best characteristics of several memory technologies. It would need to:

- operate very quickly – like SRAM cache
- support a practically unlimited number of read/write cycles – like SRAM and DRAM
- retain data indefinitely without using power – like flash memory and hard disk drives, and
- be sufficiently large for common operating systems and application programs, yet affordable – like hard disk drives.

Netflix is gonna die by the way.

Disney and Fox are leaving Netflix.

AT&T acquired Warner Brothers and Turner and a bunch of other content providers and AT&T ain't sharing.

If they fixed the issue of latency then fairplay to googles engineers

>i-it has to start somewhere!

it doesn't when it literally doesn't work and never will. LOCAL game streaming still has significant enough lag introduced to be problematic in many games. to get even close to the level of local streaming you need per-user hardware dedicated custom servers running directly to you. that will never happen at scale and it costs MORE than just maintaining a build yourself, it should since it basically a more complicated version of running a super long video cable. game streaming will never work for anything but SLOW games, and even then with video compression that makes it look like shit.

then that isn't game streaming, that's just a paid distribution platform which has existed even before steam, it's nothing new. the point of game streaming is that you can play games on a device that only need the hardware for an internet connection, input, and display.

What you posted has nothing to do with physical media dying.

That is basically just talking about some theoretical ram that would be fast as CPU caches and as large as ram, which is seemingly impossible at the moment because when something gets larger it has to also travel further.

Physical media dying is because it's easier for people to store things digitally than have clutters of disks everywhere.

>LOCAL game streaming still has significant enough lag introduced to be problematic in many games
this is a lot from the software development side though, the local infrastructure should be as viable as hdmi for 1080p resolution
when going to 4k though hdmi cables are generally higher bandwidth than what most high end nics run

there isn't much incentive to improve homebrew local streaming quality, since there's not as much money in it

Eh, Not really. They have a decent enough backlog of original shows and smaller production companies

It might become more niche, but I doubt it will die anytime soon.

The article posted was CNBC, and they're going to hype everything up as if it's brand new, and it doesn't say streaming games, it just says "netflix for games".

It's most likely going to be an Origin Access type deal where you pay some sub fee and get access to games, not streaming games like some people here think. If valve weren't so incompetent they could probably beat google to this since they've got so many deals with publishers/devs already, and have steam as a platform that could support this easily.

>live in Burgerland
>only ISP is Comcast/Xfinity
>2TB download cap per month
>normal use already nears my limit
So are most people just not going to be able to use this shit?

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>2TB data cap per month
Well that's twice as much as I get from Cuntcast.

I have Spectrum, I have no caps

it is streaming, retard
patent is already out and they JUST did a public beta for Project Stream
pimg-faiw.uspto.gov/fdd/25/2019/04/003/0.pdf

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I’m literally surrounded in a town with AT&T fiber, but my single street doesn’t have it. People four homes down have fiber, but we can’t, and best of all Comcast is raising the price another $4 in two months. It’s insane.

tfw Android TV is rotting away with the 2015 NVIDIA shield still being the best box
soon to be dead just like google tv

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That's fucking shit my dude, I'm sorry. Are you on the east coast?

dang I only get 300GB from comcast and it's $50 more per month for unlimited and I'm already paying $100 per month for 400Mbps that I only get ~200Mbps from (and only 20Mbps upload which is p consistent across the board due to how shitty DOCSIS is)

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GPU with ethernet out to stream the video signal directly as packets. the GPU then has a receiver that comes with it for video conversion back to HDMI. in the future this could come inside the TV already.

More shit to rent?
I'll pass.

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West coast

Jesus Christ, fuck Comcast. Let all cable companies burn.

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Publishers will push for cloud based streaming to prevent that whole 3% profit loss.

Bravo piratefags. You killed vidya for everyone.

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Having actually used Project Stream on 350mb internet I can assure you that it's fine. The graphics are basically console equivalent, but the input lag would only affect things like competitive FPS. It averaged less than 110ms.

it won't have porn games, so it doesn't matter.

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Google is ultimate cancer. Everything they touch turns worse.

It will die pretty fast because no new game releases will be on it.
It will be 1-2 year old shit that everyone played already. Also no Sony or Nintendo games on it.
What kind of exclusives does google even want to release? Super woke SJW games?

now imagine if you could get one of those ports on a standard gaming card for an addition $20 or something. although I don't know how much latency would be introduced from input transmission. the only way I can think of getting that down is using a really powerful wireless system direct back to the main PC at which point it really is a more complicated version of running long cables.

This

People don't seem to understand that publishers will happily give exclusive rights for google to sell their games as a streaming service because of piracy.

It doesn't matter weather the pirates would have bought the game or not they think they are losing out on money. Ignoring this and pretending it won't work is the most retarded thing I have read so far this year.

WAKE UP SHEEPLE.

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FPS games are point and click games, you point and click on your enemies to kill them. You are just a scrub trying to justify being shitty at what are in essence a variety of point and click games

Here's the thing: literally nobody has internet good enough to stream video games. Not the Koreans, not that one randumb Euro country that has gig fiber standard. Google is going to be dead in the water with any sort of streaming service.

I don’t want to imagine a game industry that works like Nextflix and Hulu. No one would focus on good games, just padding their library with shit. These shit races with competing services seeing who can say “we have more games made per year than the other services!”

Who cares where the gaming industry is headed? Good games arent being made anymore. Last console with good games was the PS2. I say fuck it and turn gaming fully DRM. I still have my good shit so I ain't complaining

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Streaming is the next logical step of digital distribution, anyone that has paid for a digitally distributed game voted with their wallet for this.

No it isn't, at least not for the US. Nobody in the US has internet good enough for streaming.

>tfw pirate master race and will keep on stealing games and nobody can stop me

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Except it is in first-world countries like South Korea and the Netherlands.

What everyone seems to forget is that google is extremely competent and extremely rich mich makes them dangerous. They might not takedown steam just now but they can seriously shake things up and disturb PC gaming.

based

>Google is competent
Is this poster ironic?

If streaming takes over then that will absolutely end piracy barring internal corporate security leaks.

You can't crack a simple video stream.

>End piracy
>Also end sales

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>Google
>competent
Not in the last decade where they fucked up and broke certain Youtube features that they had to remove it or fucked up gmail accounts.

They do reach their goals and their technology works. Outside of some goofy side projects like the google glasses they are successful everytime they seriously put effort into something.

They're also fucking everywhere which on itself gives them a huge advantage over their competitors.

Never underestimate the ability of normal faggots to ruin everything.

>Bravo piratefags. You killed vidya for everyone.
This is some how piratefags fault? Its more like consumers are gullible fucking retards and gaming company's are all ways fucking you over because of it.

Normalfags can stream movies via netflix, but they can't stream video games. They don't have internet good enough.

>It's the people who support developers fault that the developers are taking extreme measures to combat piracy

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>Blindly supporting bad business practices is the duty of every customer!
Fuck no.

Who tf is streaming books?

Audible doesn't stream books. You download the books and store them locally.

>the entire world is rural north america

It's current year faggot, entirety of Europe even ex-commie shit countries like Poland have optical fiber. And with 5G being deployed across the globe it won't even matter soon.

>Netflix for games
Well Western games are basically Movies desu

I'm not surprised

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>His post has zero relevance to mine
Okay.
>The entire world is rural north america
Nowhere was that ever said. However you're a colossal squid of a retard if you think the market in the US would be ignored.

I live in fucking Australia so I have even less interest in this idea than the rest of you. I'm certain this is the way the industry will be moving eventually but I can only imagine just how fucking terrible this shit will run.

Actually it has relevance if you read the proper context you god damn simpleton. Don't pay for these shitty streaming game services and they'll fucking die and companies will realise that "Oh hey maybe people can't actually use games as streaming at the moment."

>Buy game that I want
>REEE FUCK YOU STOP MAKING IT HARDER FOR ME TO PIRATE
(You)

You'd be insane to buy a game from Google's store, if people think owning digital games is a risk, just imagine what an insanely anti consumer company like google will be. Just look at everything about the current state of youtube as an example.

Except you're not buying the game you want you faggot. With this you would be literally paying a rental fee for a worse experience.

not touching anything google, they own enough of my digital life and i hate the pajeet pooinloo subhuman running it

>You're not buying the game you want
Who the fuck are you?

I'd rather take any ISP over Google.
Panoramio never forget Nasim Aghdam did nothing wrong except miss.

Maybe you just grew up and don't like video games as a hobby anymore, and only like the old ones because it gives you nostalgia and you are familiar with.

>mfw a Multibillion dollar company is wasting millions on another streaming console
Streaming games has never and will never work. (At least for another 30-50 years)
I'm shocked that companies are still fucking trying with the limitations that still exist

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Why would you buy a digital book? Digital games and physical games are the same, but books? Entirely different.
Audiobooks I understand, but digital books?

I think even they would see through google's bullshit, they mostly already do thanks to youtube's wonderful track record of fucking over youtubers and their audience.

They bought maps, or the precursor to maps rather.

I thought one of the main reasons consoles haven't gone full digital is due stores refusing to stock hardware and accessories.
GameStop is already turning into a retro and collectibles store

But why?
Do they not understand that input lag will fuck your game up?

>It's the people who support developers fault that the developers are taking extreme measures to combat piracy
Yes actually

Someone that has qualities you lack, a backbone and some brain cells.

From most perspectives you look and sound like an invertebrate.

From every perspective you look and sound like a faggot.

Not everything Google does is a success. Remember Google+ and how literally nobody used it?

Anyway, I'd love to know what they mean by "Netflix for games". Either they mean something like Steam but they don't want to say "another Steam", or they mean a game streaming service like that OnLive thing that flopped. If it is game streaming, I'm not saying it will definitely flop, but it's not going to replace stores like Steam, GOG, etc. At the very least, you'll still be downloading your indie games.

I dont think you get it, this is GOOGLE. They will have datacenters fucking everywhere so ping will be regional

gottem

Google could put a datacenter in your fucking house and there will still be input lag because you need to transmit that data across the LAN

The only limitation is the idiotic infrastructure of the ISPs and the Government's unwillingness to just fucking label the internet a standard utility so we, and by we I mean fucking everybody under the sun, can have consistent access for a standard fee.
>Ralph J. Roberts was born on March 13, 1920 in New York City. His parents Robert Max Roberts (also known as Bob Roberts) and Sara Wahl were both Russian-Jewish immigrants
>Brian L. Roberts was born into a Jewish family[2][3] in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, the son of Ralph J. Roberts, the founder of Comcast Corporation
It never fucking fails

savage

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From the lord's perspective you're subhuman trash.

Physical you own
Digital you kinda own but there's always the risk of losing the whole thing by stepping on the wrong toes
Stream, you don't own anything, it can be gone whenever they want, patched without your controller, no mods, games will begin to alter their game designs to make it more alluring to a streamable platform, you get banned you're out, your profile will probably be deleted or reset and other shit I haven't thought about.
The convinience of playing it instantly seems like it requires too much sacrifice, and in the end will only end up screwing over the consumer, like always.

And physical there's always the risk of losing the whole thing by stepping with toes...

This is just gonna be Project Stream with more games, probably an android controller too

>From the lord's perspective you're subhuman trash.
Nice of you try to and gauge things from my perspective but the lord actually says you're a faggot.

Meant for

DUDE WI-FI INPUT LATENCY LMAO

>Small dick has a god complex
HAHAHHAHA

>Stepping on your games
clean your room

That reply was as weak as your backbone. Try not being a faggot and you'll come back with something stronger.

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>Netflix for games
>Now you not only don't own anything but you also can't even play it without input lag and at highest quality.
>Oh, and you have data caps? lol enjoy getting fucked in overage charges.

>streaming service
This kills piracy. I approve.

I'm not giving my money to google.

>This kills piracy
more like this kills gaming lmao

good thing none of this is going to happen since the piece of shit won't even get off the ground

Its so fucking impossible to have both a disc slot and hard drive space, huh?
Oh right, if you have a CD that means you actually own a product, and developers and publishers hate customers with every fiber of their beta male being.

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not to mention how cheap production costs would be since the piece of shit won't even need good hardware

>games start having a bunch of bullet time mechanics in their game to compensate the action input heavy moments affected by the lag, like most games being developed with gamepad in mind, auto aim, ui
This could effect games to the core if it takes off.

They said that about digital games and they still shove season passes and mtx up the ass.

>muh piracy

Why is nu/v/ the only Yea Forums board that gets bent out of shape over piracy? Yea Forums doesn't care. Yea Forums doesn't care. /f/ doesn't care. /h/ doesn't care. /gif/ doesn't care. Yea Forums doesn't care. /k/ doesn't care. /out/ doesn't care. /vp/ doesn't care. /wsg/ doesn't care. /r/ doesn't care. /wsr/ doesn't care. /aco/ doesn't care. /vg/ doesn't /vr/ doesn't care. The only ones who do are nu/v/ and /vg/.

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>if you have a CD that means you actually own a product

How can you be so naive as to think this, especially today

the faster steam dies, the better.

He's not really wrong. He does own the product and can sell it, lend it, do whatever with it. The product is the CD. The restricted part is the data on the CD

Tell me whats wrong with steam and how always online streaming only games solve the problem

He's the guy you're replying to and you stop him by ignoring his posts.

Those people are either corporate shills or they just hate the fact that they keep spending money on something that others get for free.

Its pointless and wastefull, dont need films music or games on plastic discs anymore that unless stored airtight will degrade over time anyway

But I'm only 18

Console wars crap stems out of people building an identity around what brands they buy rather than being more developed people who enjoy things without making them a part of their being.

Through that, they develop a sense of "What's good for BRAND is good for me" which becomes "What's bad for BRAND is bad for me.

Nobody except the creator of the software has owned any software in many decades. All you have is a license to use it.
If one day the company decided to take your license away, yes you would still have the software, but you would be a pirate if you still kept using that.

Most of internet infrastructure goes through fiber already, only the last few hundred meters from the switch to the home tends to use something else and that's virtually irrelevant. Doesn't change that latency will be unusuable for streaming games that aren't extremely casual shit or turn-based. Fiber doesn't magically go faster than light.

>Nobody except the creator of the software has owned any software in many decades.
Did you even read that post?
> The restricted part is the data on the CD

they didn't say you owned the software on the disc.

Once they figure out how to use quantum entanglement to do faster than light inputs this will be a thing of the past. I can see one day people using basic PC's just to stream the game they are playing

But that's a real console with a real GPU/CPU/cache/memory/etc. and this thing will be a glorified set-top box with the power of a smartphone and before you say those are powerful now, no they are most definitely not compared to any serious hardware.

other forms of media aren't 70-100+ GB and don't require sub10ms of input lag to be decent

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You should post the would be like N64 modem instead, since internet multipl7 never picked since that did so poorly


....wait

I have Netflix and I still pirate tv shows, even Netflix shows, because it takes Netflix 24 hours or even days to subtitle shit for where I live (which I don't need or want, but they seem to think differently).

Also when Netflix started out it would have 1080p films, now pretty much all its films are 480p or 720p so I think I'll finally stop my subscription now, it's just not worth it for those rare good Netflix originals like that Takashi Miike film and the Werner Herzog docu.

It's retarded, but then again so are all the people who still keep using Google sites/software/services after it being well-known for years just how fucked up the company is with privacy rape and scummy practices. So, I assume it will attain at least a comfortable operating margin.

probably is where most things are headed, thank fuck for emulators and the thousands of past generation games that I have never played.

Shit like that is the future, and I hate it. At least Google might crash and burn.

Vote with your wallet and this shit will disappear.

Are you right next to the datacenter? You know lag is based on distance not bandwidth, right? You probably don't because most of Yea Forums stacks shelves for a living.

I already am but for everyone who does there's a million dumbfuck normies buying it.

Streaming games are not only the future, in 50 years they'll be the only games anyone plays. Because nobody will be able to afford a rig capable of running a fork of the Google super AI that generates games for you on the fly, and basically acts as a real time GM to tailor your experience.

Input lag is already a thing of the past. What I mean by that is that no game made in the past 15 years has had any reaction based gameplay. There's timing based, but that works the same if you have up to a full second of latency, as long as it's consistent.

Sony has been doing it for a while with PlayStation Now. Microsoft is doubling down on it by becoming a “service” on Nintendo Switch for starters... it’s happening, but I wouldn’t worry too much about it. This is just another way that gaming is expanding.

Think of it like other media. Music, movies, books, comics... There will always exist a collectors market, even if there is a lot of digital and streaming exclusive stuff.

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They can't even stream videos properly yet.

foster the scene you want, it's not an easy thing user. go ahead and complain but also talk to people who like the shit that you like and do your own thing. I fucking hate most modern games and do not engage with people in any meaningful way who buy them. In that way I've been able to isolate myself from exposure to it and from proponates of it.

They already ruined everything by accepting digital distribution

See, this works well with Music because it provides easy access for people who just want to "listen to music" without worrying about all the technical details. But it's pretty easy to stream music to even a cellphone with a spotty connection somewhere, and it gives you the option to store it in case you'll have none.

For Movies, you take a step up and start seeing a few issues, the videos start having to be compressed/not very high quality so it can reach more people who don't have a consistent high speed internet. There ARE things like 4K video available but I can only imagine that's a minority that can afford a 4K tv, good speed internet and knows how to set it all up for minimum lag (at least compared to everyone else watching stuff on Netflix)

Now we go into games, that not only have to do audio and video flawlessly for a smooth experience, ideally with no compression, in real time, you also have to send input too and they have to respond in a timely manner.

The way I see it, it's simple, if they do it purely as streaming, they would need for the majority of their consumer base to also have affordable, high speed, consistent and easy to set up internet available to them that they are willing to switch to if they don't have already. Otherwise you'd have to download these things locally, and at that point you are just relying on your local hardware and it becomes another Games Pass/Origin Premier deal, which could work if they had a fuckton of games there.

Or who knows, maybe Google has found some sort of intelligent in-between algorithm where you download some of the game but it still runs mostly on their servers, not using many of your PC resources. Either way between this and Microsoft's move to basically unify Xbox/Win 10 it's gonna be an interesting March that could start pushing the industry into a new direction, good or bad.

Anyone who buys a 4k tv to watch "4k" but starved streams from Netflix is a fucking idiot. Netflix 4k streams have a fraction of the bitrate of a blu ray, let alone 4k blu Ray.

Yeah and that's already a minority of Netflix users. But I imagine it's a minority within a minority to own a 4K TV and actually go find proper 4k Blurays. I bet there's a lot of people who pick these up because "the quality is better, it's 4k!" and just use it to watch whatever on Netflix, maybe not even in 4k quality.

The average consumer is not very tech oriented, but it still has money to spend on that tech and all it takes is good enough marketing.

because this place is full of corporate boot lickers and plebbit/trannyera faggots

Fuck google.

>No more general purpose CPUs, no GPU, no more 3rd party software period
So you think because Google wants to make a streamed game service that Nvidia and AMD are just gonna stop making consumer GPU's? Are you retarded? Do you not understand that babbys vidya geams isn't the entire market of computer buyers?

>And physical there's always the risk of losing the whole thing by stepping with toes...
every game of mine in the last 15 years has been in immaculate condition.

Though you are partially right for factors that you can't control well, like natural disasters or burglary.

Not a nu/v/ thing at all, there was always people nagging about piracy here.

Are you guys just plain stupid or trolling?

This, it's obvious it happens because of jews and women, no need to ask yourself why.

Books are still massively in print, Movies still get physical releases

Shit even select Netflix shows have Physical releases, ex: Bojack Horseman and Arrested Development