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I liked Q2 more
That's still true.
I love railgun, so I like q2 slightly more.
Fuck you, Quake 2 is the greatest tech demo ever made.
q2 engine is still in use in modern games tho
Q2 is better. Quake 4, for the record, was absolute garbage.
but that's actually true
q2 was garbage and the only reason people think back of it fondly is because of the multiplayer
Quake 2 had a really good soundtrack at least, even though all the levels were like the first maps of all the Quake 1 episodes for the whole game.
Quake 2
Worse movement
Worse gun play
Worse animations
Worse enemy design
Worse atmosphere and lighting
Better music
q2 didn't have multiplayer in the boxed release
hexen was best
>Better music
What did he mean by this?
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Fallout 2 is best game ever released in gaming industry.
>Worse enemy design
Wrong! Q2 had the most soul when it came to enemies.. also Q2 had better enemy moveset
Movement? Hows it any different
Gun play? How’s it any different?
Animations? Little touches like dead bodies shooting in their death throes is cool
Enemy design? True - the strogg suck
Atmosphere? Depends if you like tech-y space stations. Warehouses, trains, processing labs etc. were cool if you like that sort of thing.
Lighting? Eh, can’t remember it so sure
Music? True
>most soul
Time for you to define “soul”, user. ‘Cos you’ve GOT to be in a minority with this opinion
Had? Which Q trumps it in that regard?
All the enemies looked different but still had the same theme in Q2. Q1 enemies looks like blobs, the only really defined enemy is the shambler.
The guns feel like shit dude. Like pea shooters. Go YouTube the pistol. Look at how shit it looks "pew pew" and not to mention all the weapons warp and spasm because of the way the engine fucks up rendering vertices.
And they nerfed explosive weapons cus they were so strong in Q1. The grenades in Q2 are worthless. And the enemy animations are so fucking stiff.
God. I forced my way through Q2 and when I was finished I immediately went back to Q1 expansions and it's just a better game in almost every way.
Quake 2 shouldn't even be called Quake. Fuck Q3 and Q4. Quake is its own standalone title that deserves a sequel. Fuck the Strogg and fuck your sci-fi shit.
I don’t think that’s true at all. If you’re talking about the low poly meshes then that’s technological constraints rather than design. Apart from the literal blob of course
Q2 enemy's literally make me cringe. Did anyone really find these intimidating or cool at release? They look goofy as fuck.
They were totally bad ass.
Quake 1 had far better atmosphere and music
It’s pretty much the same as quake, I don’t know what you’re on about. Pistol is hopeless, sure, but the machine gun had a nice punch with the recoil, chain gun RIPPED shit up, double barrel was a monster, and the rail gun is legendary. I don’t need to YouTube shit, I have it on my PC and a decent set of speakers.
Disagree, I’m afraid. Grenades did suck, true.
In q2 you have the iron maiden, beserker, enforcer. I can't remeber any of the enemies in q1 except for the shambler. Sure q1 hade better atmosphere but enemies? Nah, they were boring as fuck.
Eldritch Horror > Stroggs
Q1 has the best athmosphere
Maybe the most unfinished
Seeing this guy running towards you for the first time made me shit my pants.
This enemy was creepy as fuck
>Grenade ogres
>Flying worm acid spitters
>Blood knights
>Black knights
>Those hounds with the spikes for eyes
>Fucking vores
Come on dude. Much more varied than
>Robot man with machine gun
>Robot man with rocket
>Robot leg man with laser
>Robot woman with rocket
>Flying robot man
I legitimately agree with this, Quake 2 felt bland, generic and boring to me, it felt more like an elaborate tech demo.
>Q1 - Carmack + Romero
>Q2 - Only Carmack
COINCIDENCE?
Thoughts on Turok 1 vs Turok 2?
Fortnite is going to be to a generation what Quake was to us
Do any of you boomer faggots want to play Quake 2 RIGHT NOW?
And here I thought this would be a fun "We pretend it's 1998" thread. Sigh.
Oh c'mon that's not honest.
>Beserker - gives knockback punch
>Medic - revives fallen enemies
>Brains - has a shield and tentacles
>Gunner - has a machine gun and grenades
>Parasite - has life drain
Every enemy has a different purpose.
TRESSPASSAH
I think they look really horrifying in a good way.
That Quake 1 music was boring garbage and Reznor is a hack with no talent.
Turok 2 ran like ass
Quake 2's tedious ass hub levels alone make it infinitely worse than Q1, pile in all the other ways it's worse and you've got one Id's weakest shooters.
Don't forget McGee.
But people are talking about how Q1 is better than Q2, how is that not as if it were 1998?
u wot m8
And Petersen.
Stop shitting on Q2
I remember growing up with the PS1 version, which scrapped a ton of levels and kept all the great ones. Thinking about it though, game probably ran like shit.
Move over virgins. The chad 90's FPS is coming through.
Reminder that Generation Y or "The Millennials" (born after 82) will be allowed to post here in two years. These are the fruitcakes who listen to NSYNC and grew up on Power Rangers and ritalin. Will they ruin this board?
>old game good
>new game bad
q1 is good but q2 is more polished (and better)
COMPUTER UPDATE
Q2 is superior. It actually delivers on its themes. Q1 felt like the wanted a gothic RPG shooter but never had the time to actually finish it
OwO what's this?
the fuck are you on about
q2 mp was added in a post release patch you dumbo
>play Quake 2 Ground Zero
>at the final boss
>"it's gonna be easy, just have to activate my invincibility and quad damage"
>do it
>boss activates them too
>Quake
10/10
>Quake 2
7/10
I though q2 was pretty enjoyable for what it is, really should have been called something else though, because it just isn't Quake for me
The greatest single-player FPS to ever be made;
Unreal.
It's 1998 user. This board will go through a demographic shift soon.
>just shoot everything in sight
This is not 1994 it's 1998, get with the times grandpas, fps have moved forward, you just don't mindlessly shoot at everything that moves anymore!
Just look at who just got GotY award, nuff said.
It's pretty well known that id called it Quake 2 just for name recognition alone. Well, in Retro FPS General on /vr/ anyway.
Well it's fairly true
Quake 2's gunplay, level and enemy design was a downgrade over Quake 1. It's still a good game though
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This game can barely work properly.
give me patch notes or proof
Also Quake 4's strogg design and torture was more interesting
Quake2 wasn't even a quake game until ID rebranded it at the last minute
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I missed playing q2 with /arena/
Played Quake 2 first, loved it for years. Never really clicked with Quake though until I played Half-Life - hated what it did to the FPS genre and found Quake to do what I like. Now I enjoy both Quake and Quake 2, but Arcane Dimensions for Quake shits on both.
I find it harder to enjoy the whole of Quake 2 now though, certain units are still fun: Base, Jail and City for example. I like the hub system as I enjoyed the same in Hexen 2. Music is good, atmosphere is pretty good. It's not as chaotic as Quake though.
At least they're not Half-Life. Fuck Valve and every faggot that sucks their cock for spoiling FPS games.
I don't like q2 multiplayer
Everyone just post 90's FPS images so I can save them to my folders. 00's FPS are welcome too.
>Half-Life
>spoiling FPS games
>Q2 stutters on my laptop
kill me
>Map has a lava pit where you can't get back up
>This faggot is conveniently placed so you won't expect him sneaking up on you and push you in the pit
Broke a keyboard because of this fucker. Was drinking cocoa and spilled all over it when that happened.
Someday they'll all realize.
Enjoy your scripted sequences and standing round listening to NPCs talk.
I want to play this game, but it runs like ass on modern systems.
>It's the epic shill
Back to your slums, Xiao.
Agree with this. All my favourite bits of Thief were gutted out in Thief 2.
nah it's a SS1/2 thing where all the normies will forever hold the weaker game on a pedestal
I don't have any problems running it, is it stuttering or something?
no it wasn't, it was good just not groundbreaking
tried a source port?
I think most people use Yamagi Quake 2
"No"
Fuck off and suck another Twinkie Gabe.
Quake 4 had a lot of problems, but it also showed how terrifying the Strogg actually are in ways Quake 2 wished it had the technology to do so.
>scripted sequences
What's the problem with them?
>standing round listening to NPCs talk
Oh no, you have to stop for 30 seconds like twice during the entire game, what a tragedy.
At least those games had a sequels.
Yeah Q2 had great enemies such as
>generic robot guy
>generic robot guy 2
>generic robot guy 3
Of course there are several cool enemy designs but it doesn't change the fact you will play what basically is first level of every Q1 episode but for entire game
I dunno, Benny's drunk rambling, the bank robbery and the part where Garrett finds Lotus in the freezer and comforts him before his death all added quite a significant level of soul to the game
T R E S S P A S S E R
The game slows to almost a crawl on Windows 10 if you want any decent looking graphics.
I mean Tres
Quake 1 doesn't even have a final boss fight. Congrats you stepped into teleporter.
I WAS USING gog
Q2's final boss is a joke
Congrats you lobbed 6 bfg10k rounds at the Markon's face
Out of id's big three (Wolf, Doom and Quake), who the did the boss fights the best? For fairness, you can use any game in the series for the example.
>quad + chaingun
but that's right. Q2 was pretty bad, a serious step back in level design.
the ones that reuse it's bosses as common enemies so doom2 and Quake2, the boss battles always sucked
I'd rather a good level than a boss
Doom
What part of Q2 level design is bad?
Neckbeards actually did the equivalent of this Soul/Soulless thing with LttP and OoT respectively back then. Then you had people doing the same thing later on with Super Metroid and Metroid Prime.
>That Quake 1 music was boring garbage and Reznor is a hack with no talent.
Pleb of the year award goes to you.
It should run as it is, but there's no downside to using Yamagi anyway, you get more options and better performance.
If you still want to use the original launcher you might have to Google some more
75% of these I never heard of
Where's xenogears, panzer Dragoon Saga, Tekken 3, parasite Eve, Sakura Wars, banjo kazooie, metal Gear Solid?!?
Agreed. I hate people who just wanted more burglary out of this game instead of what a fantasy thief would do, which is not just breaking and entering mansions, but raiding catacombs for valuables, visiting ancient cities in hopes of discovering artifacts etc. not just repeating the same thing ad nauseam.
Quake 2 with the chaos mod may be the most fun I've ever had in a lan party
Wolfenstein 3D bosses just got minigunned to death so that was boring
Return to Castle Wolfenstein had 3 bosses. The first was good, the second was horrible and the final was ok so a mixed bag
Wolf 2009 I have never been able to finish, ever. The game absolutely repulses me. Even more than New Colossus
Wolf New Order had 4 bosses as far as I remember. The first one and the London Monitor weren't particularly good. Last two were excellent even if they were shoot it till it dies bosses
New Colossus didn't really have any bosses unless you count those two guardians on the airship which were terrible
Haven't gotten around to playing Old Blood yet
Doom 1 & 2 bosses were just sponges
Doom 3 bosses weren't great. The telekinesis one can glitch and start attacking you too fast. Twin guardians were a nice throwback to Doom 1. The seeker one was a good concept but became annoying. Final boss is a strafe while you throw a soulcube. The Maledict in the expansion pack is actually really fun to fight
Doom 4s cyberdemon is great boss because it requires at least some proper positioning and the effects used are unique. The twin hell guards were significantly worse. The cyberdemon was a little too easy but I appreciated the attempt to properly recreate the Doom 1 bosses
Quake 1 had no real bosses just puzzles
Quake 2 was shoot it till it dies bosses which could die so fast you'd never see all their weapons
Quake 3 was an arena game so that doesn't really count
Quake 4 was once again shoot it till it dies but they did have a few more mechanics. They still die very fast
I would say Doom 4 and Wolfenstein New Order tie here
how can you not be able to tell it's only PC games
I'm not from the USSR I don't have to play pirated games on my workstation
The torture shit, especially the "transformation" scene is the only thing people keep bringing up about the game, probably because the rest is subpar garbage.
>game has zombies
fucking dropped! Soulless as fuck!
Strogg abilities were neat
Mech sequence wasn't as bad as expected
Game peaks pretty late by FPS standards
Too many other good games around that time though
Pretty much. I don't know why, but that era of horror shooters had some good "machines doing horrible things to people" thing going on. Like Prey 2006 albeit not as horrible as Stroggification
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>Havent got around to playing Old Blood
Its probably the best of the new 3, minus the long stealth section in the beginning.
Spear of Destiny has the best finale out of any Id shooter, the back to back boss battles and the seamless shift from Nazi castle to hell is an unforgettable experience.
You're not really wrong, it's a pretty standard fare FPS but I do like the enemy designs
I don't exact remember a lot of Quake 2s levels either except for the halls filled with super tanks at the end of the game
Well it was also the time of torture porn horror movies (Hostel, Saw, etc.) so that most likely just inspired devs at the time.
Probably true. I've always had a fear of being strapped down while something experiments on me. Ghosts and shit like that don't creep me out, it's stuff that physically manipulates you that freaks me out.
it's true. Quake 2 was trash.
id got overshadowed by valve twice.
Shame because Half Lives kinda suck in hindsight.
Worms > rest
People was complaining about the lack of soul of Quake 2 before this meme.
I literally read "Quake 2 is like Tim Willits: It have no soul"
Quake 2 lacked the medieval cosmic horror mashup atmosphere the first oozed with.
Sure it wasn't a pretty game, but if that Trent Reznor OST doesn't send chills down your spine as you traverse downtrodden castles, I don't know what to tell you.
Q2 was soulless before that was ever a thing, boring tech bases and warehouses with little distinction of one room from the next.
>computer updated
>computer updated
HUUH
>computer updated
>computer updated
*blaster sound*
>computer updated
updated my journal
>Worse gunplay
Wrong. Q2 had better weapons and multiplayer.
>That pic
Jesus Christ almighty, what went wrong?
Quake 2 and 3 was Carmack+Tim "most boring guy in the world" Willits
Honorable FPS aryans
quake 1 didn't even have the coolest maps
Quake and Quake 2 weren't related in terms of story were they?
>better weapons
no
>and multiplayer
yes
What the fuck went wrong
Is this on lower settings? I actually remember Q2 being bright the first time I've played it.
>that fucking game
Nope
Jesus don't remind me
publishers + THAT period in monolith's life
You're pretty familiar with it so I think you're probably from Eastern Europe too.
Focken' rauw!
Yep. Half-Life is a good game.
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I don't know any boomer gamers who rate Half Life the game itself
They'll rave about the mods for it though
>THAT period
Elaborate
recently played this a bit, it was quite fun
What's the Yea Forumseredict? I don't give a fuck about single player shit, but I want to play multiplayer with these weapons
I was wondering about Half-life and Unreal OST. What genre is that music?
>muh generic industrial rock is bettur than immersive dark ambience
Gladiator was an awesome design, fuck you. All the Quake 2 enemy design were great, like disgusting body horror freaks held together by Hellraiser cyborg shit
>Worse gun play
Gunplay is like the only thing Q2 did right, I have to fight the urge to whip out my dick and start masturbating furiously every time I spin up my chaingun in Q2.
>quake 2
>less immersive than 1
on what planet?
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I meant more immersive but you get the point.
still true considering how boring and uninspired is the SP level design in Q2
What was that creepy deep brown-note noise you could always hear during the first couple levels of Q2?
Like "duu-duu...... duu-duu...... duh duhhhh....."
>patch notes
Underage.
>computer updated
aw yiss
Not him, but I didn't like Q2 enemies beacuse of the animations: it feels clunky. Their behavior should work (every id FPS does this right), but fighting enemies in Q1 feels better.
Wolf 2009 final boss is hard as heck (but I didn't upgrade any magic).
most modern info pages will have patch notes even for old patches, yes
i.e. "quake 1.07 changes the hud to work with scourge of armagon" etc
>want to buy quake 3 arena cause memories and mods
>never below 15 bucks
Fuck, I love the game but I'm not paying that for something so old
lmao, Q1 enemies have 10FPS non-interpolated enemy animations and you call Q2 clunky?
industrial break beat, big beat, noise, electronica
Maybe a Strogg planetary alarm siren blaring because of the human invasion?
Yes it did, you daft tit. It just didn't have the deathmatch only maps.
>tfw we'll never get another mainline gothic era Quake game
>if Quake is still alive after Quake Champions it'll be even more strogg wanking
>Meanwhile Doom is getting all of the singleplayer love along with inheriting Quake's gothic themed areas
I love Doom, but i love Quake more. I'm hurt
It werks.
Q2 just had interpolation, wich you can activate in modern sourceports for Quake
Q4 was fantastic user.
Care to provide some examples? I dount I'll like it, I'm just curious
Peach, Bowser, Duffy Kong, King K. Tool, Ridley, Meta Knight, King Dedede, Banjo & Kazooie, Pac-Man, Mega-Man, Sonic the Hedgehog, Little Mac from Punch-Out!, and Wario are all going to be in the next Smash Bros. game called Super Smash Bros. 2. Also you will be able to use Samus in a black bikini.
>Doom even got Quad Damage
Fuck this gay Earth and any other realms that have computers, too.
At least there's that 3D Realms published Quake spiritual successor Wrath coming soon. Looks pretty good.
Looks very good but I'll wait until I see someone other than a gaem journalist trying to play it.
Okay, but what the hell is Super Smash Bros anyway?
>cyberdemons good
>cyborgs bad
But it's not Quake. I don't want a bunch of fucking old-man Quake mappers and some other artists and mappers hired through nepotism and wankery making a Quakelike while Dave Oshry shits down my throat for not immediately preordering it, I just want Quake.
So your problem is that it doesn't have the quake logo on the box?
>Quake
>cyberdemons
???
>ooga booga chosen one
nah
Not grim enough. Not like I'm complaining, I lke the color scheme or the teeht-gun. But I think we can reach 90s imagery ever again.
no it wasn't, it was ok
My problem is that I've already seen this song and dance with Dusk and I don't expect it to turn out much better, even if it looks a lot closer and actually runs on an engine originally meant to run Quake.
I fucking love Q4.
>play Q2
>berserkers are pointless and pretty much never a threat
>play Q4
>enter a room
>berserker sprints at me from another door in front of me
>start shooting it
>it shrugs my pathetic attempts offf and shoves an electrified spike so far up my ass I can see it coming out of my mouth
>then I die a lot
I'm still not following, you seem to have already concluded every new FPS trying to be like Quake will be bad no matter what.
Looks pretty good, nothing super original but I like the weapons and artstyle.
I'm curious about the "metroidvania" aspect they've mentioned, although that might just be marketing speak for having big levels with some backtracking.
every new FPS will be bad no matter what it's trying to be
I like Turok 1 better, but Turok 2 is still really good
You meant soundtrack from Unreal Tournament or just unreal?
Anyway, this genre was kinda popular in the late 90s and early 00s and then it was replaced with dubstep, progressive house and hardstyle.
So actually a lot of games and movies of that period (until 2006 probably) had this kind of soundtrack.
Command & Conquer series
Quake
Half-Life
Need for Speed
If you're looking for specific artists then it's The Crystal Method, The Overseer, Junkie XL.
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For industrial NIN is quite an obvious one.
You can also youtube search atmospheric/acid/industrial breaks or something like that.
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that's a long post wtf
I meant specific artist. I don't know shit about shit, I was that guy who just has listened rock in the 90s/early00s.
>not recommending absolutely based Rom Di Prisco
>that 3D Realms published Quake spiritual successor Wrath coming soon
Is that the thing people were calling Codename Mourningvale a while back, or am I misrembering things?
Hey check out my new Voodoo3 card, 3dfx is unstoppable!
Damn that looks sweet
Nothing compares to the smoothness of 3dfx gaming
I fucking love Half-life. I wonder what wonders awaits in the future. Imagine 2010, dude
Everything. Shitty deal with dying publisher. Lack of experience with their new tech and sharing manpower between this and Shogo and it looking in retrospect it also lack of clear vision and direction. I amazed how Shogo came out as better game, despite Monolith claimin it's a tech-demo at best.
Saki Kaskas
Sascha Dikiciyan
Rom Di Prisco
Kelly Bailey
Frank Klepacki
Chris Vrenna
Celldweller
Now that the dust has settled, did you fall for this meme? Imagine being an insufferable oot fag saying its contender for best game of all time. LOL
OoT hate thread
Duke is better.
Everything about Blood is great except the actual gameplay. It isn't fun getting 25% of your health snipped off the millisecond a hitscan cultist is rendered on screen
IGN preview fails to show game properly, but playing it as normal human being. Meanwhile Gamespot shows more enemies and all weapons with some setpieces but playing almost as that Polygon-guy. Goddamit give us a demo or record own gameplay 3DR. Still cautiously waiting for it, they got some vets from mod scene on board and it looks promising.
Speaking of promising stuff. Is there any other "retro insired" fps to wait? Amid Evil presumably releases this month (Not fan of EA) Or not exactly "retro", but still something no-AAA poromising.
Soulless empty overworld
>Still only 16-bit color
Pathetic. NVIDIA is going to crush them soon. Screencap this post.
Did Amid Evil get bought out by fucking EA of all publishers?
Time Splitters Rewind or Black Mesa. Overload actually released if you are into Descent-esque games.
I think Romero will actually announce a game. Serious Sam 4 and Witchfire are promising. I can't think in another game with the retro look. Maybe, hopefully, Duke Nukem 2001 will be leaked
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Cultists are hitscan and deal massive amounts of damage per hit
Gargoyles take too many hits and are just annoying
Rats attack from outside your own melee range just to piss you off
Two good levels per episode, at best
Blood is overrated
Oh thank god.
I think Amid Evil should be fully out by this year.
Nice game with dark urban tone of the late-90s shooters and some great music.
explain to someone who hasn't played quake 4 but played the other games why it sucked. I've seen this sentiment before and am curious about why
WHEN
>we want call of duty audience
Next month when he finish his demo
I'm from the future, the sequel's gonna be garbage compared to it
Brace for shiny mediocrity and bought reviews.
Bullshit. Better tech=better games. When will 3D Realsm release Duke Nukem Forever, btw?
>implying you peasants ever competed in any of Quakes
it isn't really that bad just really bland and uninteresting. it's one case where "soulless" is actually true. it just feels really low effort and "by the numbers."
i had to google how to beat shub nigger ass.
nowhere in the game to that point does it ever tell you what the fuck "telegragging" is
I still want finish old Descent-esque games (Never played anything beyond first one ) and waiting for Xen in BMS (I'm retarded and got it when it got EA Release ) Rewind looks promising and i'm amazed the not got canned by THQ, but it gonna still take a lot of time to be made. Romero's game at this point is a myth, i dig "Sigil" but it's just okay mappack at this point in time with cool music. SS4 still was never shown properly, people saying that stuff they showed to public is mockups for generation hype and real game's tech demo was shows behind curtains for press, so it's another mystery game at this poit. Witchfire is okay, feels like Shadow Warrior reboot but with medieval setting.
They were releasing one episode per month and now only one left, i guess they gonna release it in marh or april if they decide to add extra polish. (They even planning to make expansion packs aftre release )
Never Ever
The game assumes you already played Doom and Quake deatmatch to death, where telefragging was a thing.
I get stuck too.
There is no Duke Nukem Forever, I'm sorry.
Also, start collecting boxed copies of your favorite games.
If nu-doom didnt gimp the movement from doom 3, the multiplayer wouldve been a lot more fun. Not being able to strafe jump sucks.
when you hold shift you walk instead of run
reminder that no doom or quake fan likes half life or cs.
VALVE IS GARBAGE
Who was a mapfag in late 90s/early 00s but in the end you was too lazy to develop your skill over the time?
Reminder that I grew up playing Keen 1,2 and 4, Duke Nukem 1 and 2, DOOM1 and DOOM2, Jazz Jack Rabbit.
Didn't play Q1 and Q2 until I was 13-14 maybe 4 years after Q2 was released.
I love DOOM, I liked Quake 1 and 2, mostly Q1.
And I liked Half-Life and love Half-Live 2 and I played so much CS1.5 that I don't want to think about it.
Diablo II, Carmageddon II, and Shogo are better than Quake 2
shit taste you are an exception
I played a bit with bots in q3, does it count?
Nobody cares what they think though.
CS was not made by Valve. It's being played and copied to this day, while everybody got tired of arena shooters in the 90s.
>shit taste
>From someone with shit taste.
Nice discarded opinion though.
>Muh cinematic experiences
>FUCK ARENA SHOOTERS WHO CARES ABOUT SKILL?
based
yeah ss1 is shit
Ironically the only weapon used in quake 2 multiplayer is railgun because it's high damage hitscan.
I knew it as soon as I saw automated security cameras and bots in a medieval fantasy game.
The lore excuse was weak bullshit too.
how does it feel that cs and half life was considered casual garbage?
Retro fps players will never respect them.
20 years later quakefags still mad that they're shit at CS and all the "skills" they've been honing are rendered useless by the more fun, more popular game.
>cs
>skill
hahahahahahahahaha
Best is subjective but the opening crawl sucks every dick twice
>I played a bit with bots in q3, does it count?
Average Yea Forums "quake player" who says that Quake Champions is not a Quake game.
>LOOK I POSTED IT AGAIN
How does it feel to be the new barneyfag?
>implying you don't need good ping for hitscan weapons
>so cod is more skill based based because people here shoot on the run?
>implying noobs will have money to buy anything
>implying spawnkills in quake are thing during duels, that quake """"oldfag"""" probably stomped some children on deathmatch server
>bunnyhopping in 1.6 was way harder to execute than in quake
Meanwhile quake live and quake champions on the verge of dying while you larping "quakers" don't play only text battles on forums about good old shooters and not being good enough even "casual" games like CSGO, lmao.
How does it feel liking shit fps games valve drones?
still mad because you got btfo in that thread?
Quake 2 had weapon recoil.
Game: Immediately Discarded
I actually only recently get to know this game, watched some pro matches, and I think it's good, especially this new champions system can bring new players in the game from other shooters, character design is pretty cool. Game really deserves more crowd.
My toaster is rather slow for it though. Are you limited to a single champion with free version though?
SEETHING VALVE DRONES
Only on one gun. To this day it feels like a bizarre design decision. People were trying new things back then.
Will never understand why they made the ray tracing mod for Quake 2.
Champions system didn't bring in new players. It assured that the players the game *could have had* didn't come.
Yes it did.
Opinions that are wrong. Q1 ambient sound track is tight
The quake 2 pistol is intentionally meant to feel hopelessly weak
whats the matter valve shills?
the truth hurts?
Hey guys, what kind of games can i play on my S3 Virge 3D accelerator?
I liked it.
Lol fag u don't even have a matrox millennium to go with it I bet
Okay, why quake live has even less players then?
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And if it's not like old quake, why do old timers succeed here?
But it's boring
this game beats both
Who is /hupe/ here ?
Your list of games are all full of feels and good taste.
Because quake 3 came out literally 20 years ago user. I personally stopped playing like 12 years ago.
I dunno if you kids really understand this but in 1999 about 100 times less people played video games. There isn't some infinite Boomer pool to pull us out of so we can fill up quake game servers
I wanted Quake live but knew it was a travesty. It's not a Quake game in any way as servers, maps and modding are inseparable parts of the series.
>Shogo
>Better than anything whatsoever
Trying so so hard to name a game people haven't played. That shit was 100% pure garbage too.
Can't wait
It is already a pretty good 2D video card.
kek
Wait what the fuck? It does 2D too? I don't believe you last week you said Mario and Sonic were going to be in the same game
>game that is only praised because of muh conspiracy theory x10 plot and main character that can't aim his weapon without nanomachines helping him
>Q2 had the most soul when it came to enemies
>brown/grey generic cyborgs
Turok 2 is the superior FPS of 98.
Fite me.
The S3 Virge is pretty much the same thing as the matrox.
Including the amazing 3D performance.
>Battlezone
TALK ABOUT A BADASS FRANCHISE FUCKED ROYALLY BY ACTIVISION
Also the only game who gave Quake 2 a kick in the nuts on the multiplayer Department for a long time, until Activision sabotage the entire game selling because they though that it wouldn't make "MILLIONS"
Fortunately the community is Kino in keeping this and Combat Command er alive with the Campaign xpac mods
Gunners and Machinegun guards were asses, mainly gunners spamming grenades.
Later on the game fucks you with "strategically" placed parasites around the maps.
Also the Xpacs didn't helped either because you had hitscan laser guards, the damn swamp bugs, and the fucking beta class strogg, Zaero later has Robocop Wardens.
use the moddb pack
SDK WHEN
and no one defended cs and hl. it feels good to not be a valve drone.
What the fuck I'm supposed to do here? Shooting with nailguns did nothing.
Member when PC had a shit ton of exclusives each years? I member
>we want call of duty audience
That only applies for the first hour or so until you get captured and turned into a Strogg.
1998 was the worst year in 90 gaming.
hl1, mgs, oot and starcraft ruined gaming forever.
fuck the zoomer who have nostalgia for these games.
>HL
Half decent FPS, but ultimately inferior to its competitors (Unreal, Quake, etc.)
>HL2
Half-Source Engine demo, half-cinematic garbage that was sold without multiplayer and was the biggest push for online DRM for retail SP games.
>Portal
Half-decent puzzle game that only lasts a few hours
>Portal 2
Shitty cinematic meme experience which showed why Portal was only a few hours long
>Dota 2
Russia bait riding on the coattails of 2012 trends with an interface that's still garbage even after Source 2
>CS:GO
Another lazy Counter-Strike version that fully strips away all that people enjoyed from 1.6 to satisfy the autistic tactical e-sports crowd because they'll buy crates and digital stickers
>TF2
Half-Decent FPS that popularized the world's worst trends in the industry today with those lovable cosmetic microtransactions and Valve's current iron fist on what custom content is allowed on their servers.
>L4D/L4D2
Solely the brainchild of contracted employees, reinforced by Valve's chasing of hero shooter trends with L4D3's development until it silently died on the altar of VR
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What was the best year in 90 gaming?
Was was far worst.
Devs learned that it was OK to release unfinished games. Devs found out that they could release DLCs and people would eat them up, the death of full expansions etc
The worst part of CS:GO in my opinion is the community. I mean it was always hard to find friends in counter strike but CS:GO is just made for antisocial people (matchmaking)
*2006
both this and BZ2 are underrated.
>youtube.com
BZ2 has the best Multiplayer in years, mainly DM. And then you had FORGOTTEN Enemies
>youtube.com
Fortunatelly they are remaking this on BZCC with new dub and the help from the guys who made Fallout: new california/project brazil
imagine thinking 1998 was the best year of gaming and hl was any good.
pathetic.
who cares about quake when this was the real GOTY in 1996
A game needs to either be a remake or have a large gap between the last release at least 1 console gen. A release 1 year later does not qualify for this shit meme.
bros I'm scared... this new CS mod is really good and could destroy quake and the whole genre...
unfortnutely hl and cs killed the genre
FUCK EVERYONE WHO SUPPORTS VALVE GAMES VALVE GAMES SHOULDN'T BE DISCUSSED HERE.
Okay, I figured it out, this memo was only misleading, you an get in this room from above.
Who did the "standing on a pile of corpses, shooting at enemies climbing up" pose better; DOUK or DOOM?
There was an Ubik game? What the fuck?
Half life, mgs , oot and cs still are garbage
>CS
>fun
>popular
I bet you're mad fortnite and apex legends basically dethroned CSGO as "shooter worth playing"
>muh TF2 introduced microtransactions
not TF2's fault valve decided to make it the guinea pig of f2p horseshit.
CS has longevity, there's no reason to be upset. It never has been and probably never will be "the FPS" at any time. But it'll always be there. It's unfortunately, and I say that unironically, that the same can't be said for Quake. It was certainly better than anything in the battle royal genre.
Not him but it's valve's fault, they can't fight cheaters. Or they don't want to.
Some people say that valve is very liberal and pro-gamer but i think the reality is that they just don't care. They make money and that's enough.
you have yet to prove why cs wasnt for casuals and ruined fps. same with hl.
Quake 2 is better, it's widely known.
Cope.
CS is its own thing. I don't think it's ever going to be the most popular FPS again, but it won't ever really die.
yeah because casuals love cs instead of quake or unreal. fucking subhumans.
true, quake 4 was just consolized shooter doom 3
>best guns
there is no valve game as good as a id software game. COPE VALVE DRONES.
with better AI and tactics and a modern remaster/reboot this game could be really fun for co-op and also old school q2 multiplayer
>UT
>not Unreal
>What is Ati Rage
q2pro source port
Damn, naked women is my weakness. Is it really in-game screen without mods?
Heretic.
HALF LIFE IS ZOOMER GARBAGE
yes you are
i couldn't even make it to this part the beginning of the game is such a slow slog
god this game is ugly
based and redpilled
this, unreal would have been the champion of 90's fps if it wasn't eclipsed by half-life
>great setting and theme
>horrible game
It's oldskool
singleplayer and the like with unreal monsters
literally on the first tutorial for UT :)
If the multiplayer was good then how is the game garbage?
multiplayer sucked
it took gearbox to balance the guns in a realistic quake mod with their weapons
why you guys hate half life and cs so much?
UT is not singleplayer.
It's better than Blood2, tell you hwut.
its just one person and a few randoms that have never played any of these games that repeat it
i mean unreal its a shit tech demo.
think again
>tech demo
Stop using terms you don't understand.
HOLY
Is there singleplayer campaign or it's only multiplayer like q3?
Watch the retard say that because there's bots it is.
UT is MP like Q3.
Wouldn't be surprised if it's a "some youtuber made a long ass video on why a game is shit/good" thing
Bought reviews?
Can't find a single place claiming that
There's campaigns but only through mods
Pic related is called Project Xephon: Battle For Freedom
I want to move around while I shoot. Paintball, airsoft, laser tag, all of these games were fun with friends when younger because you were on the move and firing a lot. That's something you fundamentally can't do in CS. I love to rocketjump around in TF2, I liked doublejumping as scout, I liked the strafejumping in quake. Even cod figured out that running around makes for a fun game.
It's not so much a hatred of CS, as it is annoyance of CS players somehow thinking their game is on some astral plane of skill higher than everyone else because it limits your movement.
Cool, but I don't see naked ladies on walls in here.
>generic space marine type combat
>non arena style movement or shooting or combat
>shitty graphical style that looks horrible
>boring ass linear gameplay
yeah because quake players arent insuferable the hypocrisy in this board.
I think that level-design can be compared to martial arts to an extent.
There are people who do their own thing, end up influencing those around them, depending on how many people they managed to influence, they might establish a certain movement, a "school" of level-design of sorts. Point in case: Allen Blum, who pretty much established how "proper" Duke Nukem 3D map should look and feel like. Then there are people who explicitly join already established movements/schools, and practice acting like someone else (the person who founded the "school") would. Then there are people who aim at establishing their own movements, but are frauds and plagiarists, who actually know about what they are doing way less than they pretend to, and present their quote/memespeak as their genuine mapping style - but get a pass as long as it looks cool or sophisticated. Then there are complete braindead retards, who produce mapping equivalents of child's scribbles (they could waste 2 hours or 200 hours on a single map, doesn't matter, it will still be incoherent barely playable mess).
Something like that.
how did cs invent battle royale?
CS lead to call of duty modern warfare, before then games were about fun not larping as a soldier
partly true, shit like quake live and the arena shooter movement should have been done a lot sooner to capture what was left of the player base
>old cs
>not fun
i miss when Yea Forums enjoyed cs
>annoyance of CS players somehow thinking their game is on some astral plane of skill higher than everyone else because it limits your movement
But you just described quake elitists, don't you even read the thread or threads like this before?
CS has its own movement nuances related to strafing though.
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There's barely any women in those but I did find this thing
unreal levels always remind me of those galaxy lisa frank pictures
what source port or renderer are you using?
Nah, it's just photo of some thot. Those frescos were beautiful.
Yea Forums didn't exist when CS was fun
so zoomers hate on hl and cs and pretend to like doom, unreal and quake?
good to know.
This is true though.
DX9 for UT and is the exact same mod as this
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There's always the good old models
I shit on Quake 2 at the start of this thread and ive went and played it for like 4 hours and WTF i love quake 2 now?
Quake 2 MP on it's own IS complete shit...
But goddamn if it didn't have the greatest mods of the entire Quake series
>RA2
>Chaos
>WF
>Gloom
>Action Q2
>Generations
>CS has its own movement nuances related to strafing though.
Yeah and they're shit, designed to hamper everything the Source Engine used to have.
doom, quake, duke: good level design
half life, cs, portal, tf2: bad level design
LEARN THE DIFFERENCE VALVE DRONES.
QUAKE GOOD
CS BAD
so this is the power of neo/v/
Does anyone know how to get started in map making for quake 1. I have quake one and play using quakespasm but I am tired of the same maps.
modern shooters are so tame in comparison to quake 2 that it actually became great
This and that kino AF soundtrack (you could pop the game disc in any CD player and play the soundtrack).
Good times
Did you beat addons as well?
you old school fps fans are so elitist.
is weapons factory the one with all the crazy guns in it?
>zoomers
cs, at least in my memory was one of those games that even the dude bros liked, and maybe that tainted it's legacy.
I still loved it though
You could use Quakeinjector for more Quake maps, but if you want to make your own shit:
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CS is bad though. Snoozefest of a game.
half life and cs are good deal with it boomers
the only snoozefest is quake fuck that tech demo.
I don't have the addons. just the base game.
Lots of backtracking and dependence on the quest log
>i never played fallout 2 without fan patches
enjoy your buggy mess of a game, including the extreme disappointment of carefully choosing who to help only to get a shitty ending because they're all broken
Also enjoy 3/4 of the characters being epic references and how somehow people who were vault educated and experienced pre-war technology turned into a stone age pagan tribe in 1 generation
It's crazy to me how terrible old HUDs looked but at the time seemed completely okay.
Only the steam version has bugs.
WF was Q2's take on TF. Crazy weapons yes, but nowhere near the insanity of smiley proxy grenades that chased you down in Chaos.
>Boring
Star craft and "half life" are fun, but when I lan de only play q2
reminder that nu/v/ and bitter quakeniggers hate old cs.
I ran the official action quake 2 irc channel and made one of the skins
Many years ago, a guy named gooseman made a new AQ2 skin but his camo was all wrong. I took my air Force urban camo jacket and drew an outline of how the pattern works and sent it to him. He refactored the skin off that.
Memories.
CS is a Chad-core game and that's why virgin incels on nu-Yea Forums hate it
quake 2 had a better modding scene than half life, prove me wrong
quakefags are delusional there is no point arguing with them. quake 2 was shit just like its mods.
How many Quake 2 mods are played today?