HANDS OFF MARIENBURG BRETONNIANS
HANDS OFF MARIENBURG BRETONNIANS
This pleases the elector counts
Incredible how in a world with deranged chaos mutants, orcs and dragons the most disgusting and vile monsters of all are still the bretonnians
>snipes marienburg from both frogs and empire
nothan personal kiddos
Bretonnian "kn*ghts"
It's actually amusing that life as a serf under the fiefdom of a Vampire Count has actually better conditions than a serf under Brettonian rule.
Vampires demand your blood
Bretonnians demand your soul
Only under vladmir von carstein and ushoran rule though.
Mannfred is an asshole.
True, Vlad was truly an honorable person while Mannfred was a dick.
>Brettonians demand your soul
Body, soul, life, your children's lives, your crop harvest and earnings.
Yea Forums please tell me, how do i get into Warhammer Total war series? Where should i start I or II?
After Rome II, my energy and enthusiasm for total war had disapeard and so i skipped Warhammer even tho heard how good it is. Now i want to try it but am confused about I and II.
What's the diffirence between the two?
Honestly, brettonia would be more of a threat if they didn't force their peasants to do back breaking labor while malnourished. The healthiest sons get to be men at arms or bowmen, but even they look like mutants. Getting run over by a steamtank is a blessing for your average brettonian peasant.
Lol as Empire I always blitz the bretonnia kingdoms first thing before they can get their knight stock up, slaughtering peasant stacks of fun.
Fun Bretonnian Fact: The average Bretonnian peasant is so inbred that a chaos mutant or lesser beastman could hide amoungst them for months/years and remain completely undetected.
You're forced to have both games if you want to play all the factions available sweetie.
And don't forget the dlcs!
just pirate
Different map and races in II. You can however merge the maps or something if you own both WTW:I and II for like a full huge map I think. I dunno I actually don't know the 2nd though I have played it and I do have the first. Starting with the first is fine really.
Not him but has it actually been cracked though? I know they've cracked other Denuvo games but last I heard there was nothing about the TW ones.
I've only ever played 2 which is really good. I have both though because you need it for Mortal empires which is the only mode I wanted to play.
Start with II because it has SETTRA.
How do you deal with vampire and chaos fuckery if you storm bretonnia first?
2 has two campaign maps, more races, and way more content in general. Only reasons to play 1 would be because it's cheaper or because you're only interested in the blood world and the end times are shorter.
Compared to the rest of the series, the campaign mechanics are pared way down but magic and monsters makes the combat extremely varied
All for the benefit of some chinless inbred neet who's main goal in life is to one day drink the bathwater of his immortal elf waifu and become a wizard.
1 has Empire, Dwarves, Wood Elves, Chaos, Vampire Counts, Bretonnia, Norsca, Orcs, Beastmen
2 has High Elves, Skaven, Dark Elves, Lizardmen, Tomb Kings, Vampire Coast
Buy whichever one has the factions you're interested in, or if you don't care, you can play a combined game of all the factions if you have both. Or just pirate it since it's really fucking expensive, your call.
Vamps don't get rolling until like turn 40. Chaos way after that. If you stomp bretonnia first you'll usually have to end up reconquering a blasted wasteland that was the empire, but you'll be strong enough to do it.
You can also commit a single budget army to support the other provinces. Harassing the vamp's weak stacks and cities usually stops the ai from building up its strength.
Cheers user, you have a heart of gold.
I've just looked at the price and yikes...
So if you pirate, do you have to pirate both games to merge or just one combined version?
Like for instance downloading both of these or just the second game?
If you really don't want to go trough the hassle of pitaring just watch key sites where they sell you the base game and dlc's at lower prices.
Like, you can potentially get whole warhammer 1+ all dlc's at full price, play the first one and then upgrade to warhammer 2 trough keysites too if you want more.
As long as the version of 2 you download has the Mortal Empires DLC in it, you should have the combined one. I would just download whatever the most recent crack is, should be fine.
People dont really get the context of WHY Bretonnia is the way it is
>In the world of Warhammer when you die your very soul is on the line in another realm, where you essentially start a second life based on your deeds of the last life and what killed you
>if you are not some kind of magical entity or blessed, you are fucked, since the realm of souls is occupied by nothing but demons
>peasants break their backs to earn favour of knights, the knights actually do have powerful souls and are blessed by ze lady and can actually fight in the afterlife, and the peasants rely on them to protect them in the afterlife, and rely cling to the knights even when they are dead simply because they are their only chance in the afterlife, its why things like the grail relique exist, they are carrying hte remains of a knight with them, knowing that their knight is watching over them they fight hardest so the knight will see what good boys they are
>its why they say "maybe theyll remember us in the after!" when attacking, the peasants WANT to have the favour of a powerful individual so they dont get ass raped by demons when they die
There is no such thing as normal life in Warhammer, consider that something like the Empire, sending men constantly to their death, are infact just men and ARE getting fucked in the afterlife when they die, the Empires dieties protect its people on this life, rather than the next, theres nothing wrong with this but thats the context of Bretonnia that is never really talked about, the consider the next life to be the one that really matters, and this life is the one that decides how you fare in the next one.
elf propaganda
>elf god favours humans because elves are such incredible shit
Humaned
>As long as the version of 2 you download has the Mortal Empires DLC in it, you should have the combined one.
This is what i wanted to know, thank you.
So doeas Mortal Empires work, does it include all WH I dlc's or just vanilla version?
PEE PEE
POO POO
MANTHINGS I AM COMING FOR YOU
>I DO NOT SERVE, I RULE!
based skellyton
>humans are easily tricked by elf gods into dedicating their entir lives to indirectly protecting elven forests
>humans die for elves
Knife-eared
isn't the whole "ze lady is actually an elf in disguise puppet master fooling humans into protecting her forest" a confirmed fan made theory and not actually true?
It's (((end times)))
Its 100% lore because of end times
Thats not what ze lady is user. She wanted champions to protect her daughter, not protect elves, she hated elves. Elves were a lost cause.
>idea was to create a utopia in the next life full of rad chad knights, and take only take the best of humanity with her when she saw the that end times was coming
Didnt see Vampire shits whispering in chaos gods ears and making all the knights vanish in the ether mid teleport when chaos gods intercepted them. We may see what happened to these knights in some new content in Age of Shitmar later later
Louen was so rad that when he died helping Empire fight back chaos during the end times he killed their siege leader by bleeding pure holy light on him before dying himself and turning into a puddle of holy magic, he apparently transcended the afterlife when this happened and noone knows where he went, somewhere "above" the demon realm.
Settra is probably the single most bad ass character in the entire setting. He was offered everything he could ever want by chaos gods and told them to fuck off.
Its not protecting forests its protecting her daughter, dont know how people are skewing that, she hated what elves had become and looked to humans for that reason. The knights were suppose to inhabit her idea of "heaven" but things went fucky during end times.
>End times lore is shit
Who would have known.
I mean she didn't really "fool" anyone. She is still a goddess who grants superhuman powers to knights who drink from the grail, who in turn protect the realm of Bretonnia. I suppose it could be inferred that Bretonnia is just a meat shield for her own forest people, but Chaos is the enemy of every living thing.
It's what Teclis did with teaching the Empire magic, make sure they can stand for themselves and be allies versus the forces of destruction
except thats not how it works, Lileath was squirreling away the knight souls. Brettonia was a factory, made to create heroes. See I do hope we see them again, but it seems the ghoul courts are what they've done to replace Brettonia
It was heavily forshadowed just about everywhere.
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Its that she was an elf god and not just a god, she wanted to take the knights to protect her daughter, not hte forests. End Times lore is absoloute shit though, noone takes it seriously. No faction comes out of it unscathed and unshamed.
>Empire does nothing but stab eachother in the back all the while they are at war with chaos and ratbois
>dwarves do nothing
>vampires are hte main characters
>elves dont seem to care and get roundly fucked without doing a thing
The revelation that ze lady is an elf god was fucking dumb too. Its like they did everything in their power to destroy the fantasy factions so they could push the new cooler Space Mari-Stormcast eternals who are flawless and awesome!
April. They had planned to release it after Ching Chong (because lol?), ching chong got delayed to may, so now we're getting rats a month before ching chong instead of a month after
Next DLC will be lizardmemes vs rattos. With Brettonia as the old world faction to be updated
>With Brettonia as the old world faction to be updated
they already updated Brettonia, keep dreaming. Brettonia will always be treated like shit.
As in TT, as in TW
can't fucking wait for the Bretonnia update. Been holding off on a campaign with them until it releases. hopefully this time i'll be able to confederate artois/lyonesse without one or both of them falling to kemmler/duke before turn 10
When using faction unlocker mods and playing Brettonia start in the desert it is pretty fun, I really hope they actually make this a faction start at some point for real. I hate how alot of the old world factions barely get a chance to interact with the new ones.
Empire campaign is super boring too, you're surrounded by enemies and yet quixoticaly have nowhere to expand unless you go full BEND THE KNEE and wage war on otherwise peaceful elector states
kang luoen vs price franzy
who wins? which LL is the better?
I usually go through the pass into Bretonnia, and East to the Vampire Cunts.
totalwar.com
Makes it pretty obvious its Brettonia
you have marienburg, kemmler and crooked moon to your immediate south which can be both annoying because of attrition and travel time through mountains is rough. otherwise you can go to war (or make peace) with northern empire like ostland (i think?) who start out hating you, or sit back and make nice/confederate and focus all your attention on sylvania. it's not that bad
Playing Alberic as the bad guy and conquering Brettonia is pretty fun. Get some sick traits as well. Turns him into a combat monster
Luoen is a demigod who's blood is literally magical. Karl is just a charismatic dude with a shiny hammer. Also Beaquis>>>>Deathclaw
don't you incur massive chivalry penalties though? would take many turns to even get out of the negative i would assume
I got to - 1000 at one point. Not the end of the world as there is just 1 tier of negative bonuses in chivalry
Nah, Deathclaw.
Karl is basically the avatar of Sigmar. Every time Karl has to fight some absolutely monstrous enemy. Sigmar enters his body and starts wrecking shit. Not referencing any end times shit lore too.
>Karl is basically the avatar of Sigmar.
Isn't that end time shit?
This isn't really evident in the Total War games. Stat for stat Luoen is clearly the winner. Lorewise yeah you're spot on though
That's End Times shit
No. In one of the Empire rule books, there's a giant ork warlord that kills marius lietdorf(could be subject to GW retconning bullshit) during a battle that could end the empire. Karl goes to fight it, is outmatched. Then the warlord suddenly looks like a famous one sigmar killed, he goes ape shit and plants the Gal-Maraz right into the ork's head.
I have a confession to make.
I keep holding off on playing the game until a key specific patch comes through that makes the game feel more complete. While doing so I have also bought every expansion. It's the only thing I've put money into vidya in the last 2 years so I don't feel the impact as much. I need help.
Eat shit, it was in an empire rule book more than a decade before the end times kerfuffle.
Guess what meme cuck, each subsequent edition overwrites the previous. What does the most recent, pre-end times Empire book state?
>It was in that same year that Marius Leitdorf warned the Emperor when a new Greenskin Waaagh! poured out of Black Fire Pass and threatened to overrun the province of Averland. He responded personally to this call and went to face the horde before it was too late, culminating in what would become the Third Battle of Black Fire Pass. The Imperial army arrived just in time to block the entrance of Black Fire Pass from the onrushing hordes of Greenskin warriors.
>With a battle-line of Imperial soldiers holding the enemy at bay, a barrage of Imperial artillery rained down cannonballs and grapeshots upon the tightly packed enemy horde. The first few waves consisted mostly of Goblins and a handful of Orcs, but the appearance of a beserking Giant would soon threaten the Imperial Line. Karl Franz, upon his Griffon, personally fought the massive behemoth, but in the process Deathclaw was injured and was forced to retreat back to the command post.
>With his Griffon returning to the comforts of Altdorf, the Emperor watched as the battle continued its course. Time and again, the Greenskins crashed against the disciplined ranks of the Imperial army like a wave upon a cliff. After many hours of fierce fighting, a clamor arose to the north-east as a wave of Greenskin warriors riding upon massive boars appeared from nowhere and tore through the Imperial artillery. Lead by Warlord Vorbad Ironjaw, the Greenskin cavalry smashed into the left flank of the Empire battleline. Entire regiments were caught while turning their formation to face the new threat and were easily routed and butchered. A few units broke ranks and fled, as panic started to spread through the Imperial army. The Goblins at the front-lines were ruthlessly trampled to death as a new wave of heavily armored Orc warriors and massive Trolls joined the fray.
What factions do you main?
For me it's druchii.
Karl is a statesman and general, perhaps the best there ever was. As a fighter he can hold his own.
Luoen is a grail knight, perhaps the best living Knight ever (maybe surpassed by Gilles). With the grail juice he's a monster in battle.
>In a short amount of time, the Empire lines were in tatters, with only the right flank conserving some sense of its former order. Upon the center of the battlefield, a small knot of determined Greatswords stood alone in a sea of Greenskins as they fought side-by-side with Marius Leitdorf. Warlord Vorbad drove his gigantic mount through the Greatswords company, tossing them aside like dolls, and made his way towards the Count himself. Marius came forward to meet the monster, dodging the charging beast as he swung his Runefang in a deadly arc. The massive boar was disemboweled by the magic sword and its rider fell to the ground. When the Warlord rose to his feet, he smashed the Elector Count into submission within mere seconds. The Warlord grabbed the Count by the throat in a powerful grip, and after a few seconds of struggle, the Count's strangled snarl was cut short by the chilling noise of bones snapping. In that instant, Marius Leitdorf was dead.
>Desperate to hold the enemy back from ravaging the beautiful countryside of the Empire, the Emperor lead one final assault upon the Greenskin hordes. Upon his warhorse, the Emperor lead his Reikguard Knights in a massive cavalry charge that tore through the enemy ranks. As the Emperor faced the Warlord, Vorbad made a charge. Karl Franz dodged his assault and struck back with Ghal Maraz. The hammer hit the Orc on the shoulder, and the pain sent the Orc Warlord into a berserk fury, attacking Karl Franz with bestial ferocity.
Not him but that's not really an argument, knowing how much GW retcons shit. Just need establish what source you are using when discussing this.
I was going to buy this game, but then I saw that the DLC costs more than the game.
>As the two fought, the battlefield around them soon stood silent as each army stopped and watched the two leaders fight it out. Though the Emperor was a magnificent warrior, Karl Franz could not overcome such a massive opponent. His strength was waning as time and again the blows began to take its toll upon his body. Finally the Emperor began to give ground and eventually fell to one knee. At that sight a cry of pain came from the Empire troops. Tasting victory, the Warlord savoured the moment before he prepared to deliver the killing blow. Karl Franz was overwhelmed with pain, but in his heart he wished to continue for, should he have fallen that day, the lands of the Empire would be ravaged by war, plundered and its people murdered. Deep down in his heart he prayed for deliverance, for the strength to overcome his foe just like Sigmar had done all those centuries ago. His silent prayer was sincere and was not ignored.
>In that instant, a blinding aura shimmered around the Emperor's body as the Hammer glowed with a fierce golden light. All of a sudden his pain was gone, his muscles became filled with unearthly strength and a primal fighting spirit blossomed in his heart. As the Emperor rose to meet the huge Orc once more, the Warlord stopped in his tracks as the Emperor's appearance changed into a gigantic barbarian dressed in fur. The man shouted a loud battle cry that boomed amongst the mountains as it had done so all those centuries ago.
"Unberogens!"
>Ha, I'm clearly wrong but I'll call him a cuck!
Riddle me this, dipshit, when did they retcon it?
You can get keys cheaper, wait for sales, don't buy all of the dlc or use cream api.
>A one-time Sigmarite miracle is the same thing as "every time Karl goes into battle he becomes an avatar of Sigmar"
lol no dummy
>At that sound the instincts of the Warlord were overcome by memories inscribed in the soul of his race; memories of mighty barbarians defeating the Orcs in a war for the dominion of the rich plains, and driving them to the desolation beyond the mountains. In those times, these Men were led by this very same champion, he who had denied the possession of this land to the Greenskins. In that moment and for the first time in his life, the Warlord felt the coldness of fear upon him. The Warlord stood dumbstruck, a split second of hesitation that would cost him everything.
>The Barbarian King swung his giant warhammer at the Orc's skull and, with a thunderous crack, smote the beast down. The events of Black Fire Pass were re-enacted and the Greenskin horde panicked and fled the battlefield at the sight of their Warlord's fall. As the Warlord's life drained from his body, he saw again through his bloodied eyes the wounded man in black armor, and not the god-like enemy that had vanquished him. The Warlord could not understand, and in defiance he raised a claw in one last futile attempt to fight back, but all his strength was gone and his arm fell back, powerless, before his life left him. From that day on, the name of Karl Franz has been pronounced in the Empire with even greater pride, for all heard tales of the duel. And even though in years to come the stories about the battle were embellished and exaggerated, everybody always agreed that on that day, Sigmar himself had fought alongside his descendant.
Did the book after that first mention have it mentioned anywhere? Or any following book?
That's when they retconned it.
The original Rome Total War is a great start. Then Warhammer Total War. The other games aren't really worth playing. I like Warhammer Total War 2, but it crashes a lot.
>Strawmanning this hard
No cock sucker, never said that. It only occurs when he's fighting an existential battle against a retarded OP enemy.
Don't mind me, sending stacks after stacks of mammoths to spread chaos aids to the badlands.
Helves, teclis in specific
>stacks after stacks of mammoths
Use tabletop caps mod, now.
More like it only ever happened one time ever, in a very specific situation which it would make sense for Sigmar to intervene because of an old foe, and never again.
That's a shit argument and you're a retard for making it. You could just as well argue that luthor huss never chased those beast men into the forest and kill them all single handedly because "lol wasn't talked about this year."
>chaos aids
Weaksauce.
>Karl Marx is so shit that he needs his magical Grampa to come down from the heavens and save his sorry ass in battle
2 has greatly superior gameplay due to tweaks in how agents and other utilities work. The difference between Game 1 factions and Game 2 factions is stark due to how much more attention and care game 2 received, but they're slowly improving it with patches.
The only reason to buy TW:WH 1 is so you can play game 1 races on the Mortal Empires mega campaign map.
>Hah! But what about my opinion? I clearly know nothing about the subject but I'll pretend I do!
Back peddlin' to another goal post.
By your logic then, the Empire still has and still uses giant fucking sky castles for war.
Guess what, they don't, and guess what, Franz isn't a recurring avatar for Sigmar. Face the farts bro, Louen would wipe the floor with Franz, and does.
Warp aids melts your penis
He's got multiple countries to run. Bretonnia's inbred mutated peasants are all you need to know about Leon.
But what a way to go.
>anniversary update
How much SEK will i have to waste on this
>it's free with a free weekend
COUSIN OKRI'S BEARD GET THE BOOK
Do you have even one single piece of evidence to back up the claim that it has ever happened more than one single time ever? It's nothing but a flashy one time story, like many others from the setting, from one rulebook. In Fantasy or 40k, treating those fluff stories with any amount of normacly is complete lunacy.
So when else has it ever happened? Barring End Times?
Hearing Saltzpyre imitating a steam tank is worth it
WE
Brettonia's peasantry is meme'd a bit hard because GW was desperate to make everyone legitimately grim dark
Originally, Brettonia was legitimately a fairy tale kingdom, next door to the shoddy ass corrupt and mouldering Empire. That was the joke - the Empire, with all it's technology and supposed advancement, was shite compared to it's neighbors.
Later, GW's natural hatred for the French crept in.
Not currently having them doesn't mean they didn't have them before.
Also the Brettonian army is shit compared to the imperial armies by a wide margin. Only because of the blessing of the lady can they even hope to get close. So you can talk shit on Franz for needing help now and then, but the entire brettonian army is dependent on the lady to achieve what the imperials do with halberds.
If i remember, it happened once at the Third Battle of Black Fire Pass
all of the ones you have
And we can't use end times for this example why? Consistent representations of the characters from the lore wasn't what made it suck.
that's the instance being discussed yes. That's anons point. Barring when Franz died and Sigmar's ghost possessed his body during End Times, the only time Franz displayed any supernatural qualities was at Blackfire Pass. However, Franz IS noted as the best Emperor the Empire has had in a long time, and maybe even since Sigmar himself, and that he has been found "worthy of the hammer"
We're not discussing the respective armies here though. We're talking Franz VS Louen, and apparently how because he once had Sigmar's help against an orc, that he would surely have it again against Louen.
And, honestly, that it would even matter or have any impact on the outcome. Louen would curb stomp Franz. Then fly away after his army got obliterated by the Empire's.
>Also the Imperial army is shit compared to the Bretonnian armies by a wide margin. Only because of guns can they even hope to keep cavalry at bay. So you can talk shit on Louen for needing help now and then, but the entire Imperial army is dependent on dwarves to achieve what the Bretonnians do with faith and chivalry.
Because fuck the End Times and fuck you if you bring it up and fuck you with a rake if you rely on it.
>Ayy lmao malekith was the good guy all along
Are the old world faction reworks only available in mortal empires or can I play the reworked factions in Warhammer 1? I don't own Warhammer 2.
Why is anyone even talking shit on Franz for being injected by god roids if Leon has had basically the same thing done to him, only his is permanent? It's not like Franz needed sigmar to whisper what to say in his ear as he kept the empire together. Meanwhile leon is always being kept powerful by what ever magical force.
Supreme
Ignore Bretonnian posters. They're just trying to suck the dick of their local Lord by shilling the hardest.
Giving Bretonnia internet access was a mistake.
Being under roids and being possessed are very different things
MOMMY
Because that's Louen's schtick. It's not Franz's despite how much one poster may like to wish it is.
And again, the original point of this conversation was who would win in a fight. Not whose army is better, whose leadership is better, whose nation is better, it's who would beat the other.
>Dreadfu's loyalty is faltering
>Can't rape her to put her in her place
Awful game
Loen vs Franz is basically the Superman vs Batman matchup. It's decided completely by prep time and how much macguffin Franz can throw at louen. In a straight fight he's paste. It's also exceptionally dumb because they're both very good friends and Franz is one of the few Emperor's to have any respect in Brettonia because he leads from the front and is a warrior king
Supreme hugs.
>People say franz is a bitch because his god assumed direct control
>Yeah but the brettonians are constantly needing support from their own god just to compete
This is your brain on stupid
>Completely contradicts the point I was making instead of showing an error in my logic
Karl Franz being an avatar of Sigmar is completely consistent. Malekith becoming the goodest good guy is not. So why would the latter be an acceptable criticism of the former?
Technically all Bret kings are warrior kings, you can't be king of Bret-land without being the Lady's Champion and thus a grail knight.
>completely consistent
It happened one single time dude, how hard is this for you to get? And even the End Times version of it is not the same style, Franz died and Sigmar wore his body like a Halloween costume. It's not the same as being possessed as an avatar and guided to victory once.
>Also the Brettonian army is shit compared to the imperial armies by a wide margin. Only because of the blessing of the lady can they even hope to get close. So you can talk shit on Franz for needing help now and then, but the entire brettonian army is dependent on the lady to achieve what the imperials do with halberds.
Bitch please in the old lore the Empire was on the precipice of inventing machineguns(with already having gatling guns) the shitty Bretonian tincans can fuck off. Just because on the board they had to balance the game doesn't mean that the Empire couldn't just walk into Bretonia and mow down everyone to free the serfs with their tech.
This is just an advanced version of "my dad could beat up your dad"
You're both fucking pathetic, grow up
>they're both very good friends
In the same way that a woman can come between best friends and ruin a friendship, such is the same with Marienburg.
That's what I mean, Franz is one of the few Emperor's to have any respect from the Brettonia Gentry because he's a warrior king - like Brettonian nobility. Meanwhile, to be king of Brettonia you must literally be a hero.
Louen is noted as an exceptionally good king as well, and is judicious and merciful to go along with being a murder machine
Unrelated to any of this, but my dad actually could beat up *your* dad.
WHERE MY-MY RATBROS AT
>But what about muh grail knights and Pegasus knights, they'd totally just matrix every bullet and destroy the war machines while the peasants beat professional troops because blessing of the lady
I think not having an updated book since like 2001 has fried the brain of the standard brettonian player.
Franz plays very carefully with Marienburg, Brettonia taking it could either be a huge weight off his shoulders or drag them into war depending how things go
Ah my mistake, I thought you were meaning it the other way around.
Is there anything more cancerous than Wood Elves?
Had to recall all armies from across the world just to deal with them because they absolutely would not surrender even after losing multiple battles.
I mean it's dumb as fuck on behalf of the makers of the game, that Bretonnia starts every campaign at war with Marienburg and poised to take it, while the Empire isn't at war and has rebels in the way.
It's literally only a means to shit on Empire campaign players, often forcing you to go to war with Bretonnia, one of your few starting friendlies.
I want to fuck-fuck a rat.
Skaven and people that play them are the real cancer
Dawi quads of truth
Sounds like wood elves. They're the most psychotic group of ferngally larpers.
Are Brettonians the Tau of Fantasy? As in they're just there and every player hates them
The fact that you always have to start the game with a fractured Empire pisses me to no end.
>tfw you burn down the oak of ages
Skaven don't have bros
No better feeling desu
Yes
Remember this guy? Remember how he was supposedly Archaons equal? Yeah me neither.
>Dwarf telling others to stop moaning and holding grudges.
IMAGINE
THE
SMELL
THE HIGH KING HAS SPOKEN.
EMPIREFAGS AND BRETONNIAFAGS CEASE YOUR FAGGOTY OR FACE THE BOOK
let's not
Warlord canon piss on ALL of their properties, including servants
Hey look a high elf is shaving a dwarf's beard!
>HIGH KING
Good one
He needs a bigger hat.
There is only one being to "match" Archaeon, and in practice, eclipse him
feels even better as beastmen
>He's back
>in AoS
kill me
I'M GONNA SAY THE S WORD
I always found it funny that the dark elves were run by king with an Oedipus complex.
DATS RAYCIST U CANT SAY THE S WORD GIT
OH NO NO NO
>>in AoS
Who cares.
If anything it was mommy who had Jocasta complex.
Aos is a. Destroyer of dreams, don't forget
>If anything it was mommy who had Jocasta complex.
This. Malekith hates, HHHAATTEESS his mother.
Reminds me of that video where the lizard was fed a big ass White rat and they had a full on fight with the lizard trying to drown the rat in its own drinking water
He both hates and loves her. I find it cute, my OTP desu.
>you will never be a kroxigor team leader
Theyre one of my favourite factions. I like knights and shit.
>a faction of Paladins
Yes please.
There is no better feeling than crossing the ocean as the Empire to establish Imperial colonies on Elven land.
Crossing the oceans as Queek to destroy the final stronghold of the lizards shits
>As in they're just there and every player hates them
No, Brettonia was never a super popular army with a strong list and never got attention lavished on them, unlike Tau.
FILLIN THE BOOK UP CONFIRMED
Why did they made everyone in R2 hunchback?
I just realized, the end times shits on dwarves in another way too. Because the world was ended, the dwarves won't be able to fulfill most of the grudges they still have left over.
a-user..
As the Dwarves, settling every GROODGE and burning the donut
Reminder that actual lizardman society is just skinks and toad bois, sauroks/kroxigors are just warriors and labourers with no place in that society other than as meatshields
We should stop talking I guess.
cancer how?
I really, really, really fucking hope that Chaos Dwarves will get their own faction in the next expansion.
I took this screenshot on R2 release. There were some horrible things to be seen
Wish dwarves werent so boring to play in the game, every unit is so fucking strong that the moment you start making good compositions nothing can stand up to you, its never fun playing on easy.
>he next expansion.
I assume you mean game
Pestilens probably weaponised cancer
They will be a major faction in TWW3
That would simply be too awesome, so it won't happen. No repeating rifle halberds for you.
Whatever, fucking semantics. I just want them in the next WH total war title.
Any news on what the next DLC will be? I'm really hoping for a lord pack with a Lizard and Skaven, that fixes some of the glaring issues with the lizards
I dont understand why they are even a thing really, they are the exact same as dwarves except instead of standard artillery they fire magic, thats it. They look kindof neat I guess.
I missed the old lore where Bretonnia used to invade the Empire before GW decided they needed a poster boy faction like 40k
it's pretty much confirmed to be Lizard vs Skaven w/ a Brettonia update on the side (similar to the Vamp Count overhaul)
Funny, didn't know that ordinary dwarves had goblin slaves/armies doing work for them.
Pretty sure it's confirmed to be lizards and rats
Military is still part of the Seraphon society though
Aside from Chaos Dwarves and Ogre Kingdoms, what factions would you like to see in the third game?
Its basically confirmed to appear in TWW3 though
get fucked nigger
Like that one time were mad count Marius called some knights wife ugly so they invaded?
Thank fuck. Though I really shouldn't get my hopes up too much for lizard fixes I guess, it is still CA
Chaos daemons
Kislev and Lahmians.
Kislev, Chaos Demons, maybe some interpretation of Cathay
Yeah, and?
Weak sub-factions always make for fun campaigns imo. Always a nice challenge and I like to see the minor cultural differences. A fleshed out kislev would be nice.
We've got enough vamps already
Steal and modify some assets from Three Kingdoms and add Cathay
Saurus are exclusively warriors, it's kroxigors who also work as wagecucks
Border princes.
Just give me that pike and shotte senpai
2 factions as opposed to the 3 human ones and 4 future chaos ones
They kindof shit the bed by doing this since it meant that there was a definative "main character" faction in the game. Brettonia has its goofy shit with peasants being lower value than the clothes you wear, Empire at one point was down as a highly militaristic nation that was corrupt as fuck money grabbers with the foot soldiers being oblivious to it, now they are just militaristic with no real flaws like every other faction and are the "main characters" much like Ultramarines for 40K. Well not anymore at least, since age of sigmar and its Stormcast...
Araby for the jinns
Marienburg isn't part of the Empire
Vampires. It doesn't matter who you play as, you will face vampires as your main enemies 80% of your campaign.
*AHEM*
FUCK MAN-THINGS
FUCK GREEN-THINGS
FUCK ELF-THINGS
FUCK GOBLIN-THINGS
AND MORE IMPORTANTLY
FUCK DWARF-THINGS
>play dwarves
>use goblins
M8, if I wanted to play goblins Id play goblins. I know what you mean its Im just being pedantic, its the sme thing for kraka brak dwarves who are norsemen/dwarves
>sauroks/kroxigors are just warriors and labourers with no place in that society other than as meatshields
>Saurus are exclusively warriors
False. Saurus' are also hunters, they provide food for settlements. This hunting instinct is so strong they need a Skink tard wrangler to keep them from chasing any wounded enemy
Out of the way Golden Pimp coming through. Tell Settra to stop seething.
Southern kingdoms. I would hope this would reintroduce the ability to form spearwalls and do pike and shot shit. I still cant believe they dont have rank firing and even reload animations for firearms in the game still.
small indie studio pls understand 2 many charlemgnes
Having Neffy would make Khalida's lesbian game more interesting. Also, it's for WH3 anyway.
>marienburg
Cmon, be fair. They almost reintroduced features up to about half of what we had in Medieval 2.
They cant do everything.
Khemri memes are the fucking best.
Formations should have been in, there are mods for them, ca has no excuses.
>tfw no Boris Todbringer
But he's in the game
What race where the Tomb kings before turning into mummies?
sand people notEgyptian
kangz
But can we play as him
Bunch of humans called the Nehekarans
>Bunch of humans
humans like the Empire or "humans" like Bretonians?
>mummies
Nigger Peasants having a shit life had always been the case. They just turned the nobles into even more sniveling foppish cunts as time went on.
Cathay, Ind, Nippon.
Fuck off manlet.
Nice quads though.
Can't wait for dem fanfiction level of unit rosters
Sandniggers
The land sailing boats and the eternal circle of attack order confusion was amazing to behold.
>the empire
So pretty much like Norsca?
Their love was completely platonicaly familial.
This is my concern too. After all, Nippon's samurai clans were literally named after Japanese companies. I would hate to see them be typical chinese/indian/japanese mythology.
Norsca is just Chaos lite the whole faction was made by subtracting from the base chaos template.
>A book ordered by GW is Fanfiction because I say so
Yeah, with a lot of handholding.
you can in multiplayer battles and if you confederate with Middenheim as the empire
Nef literally kissed her cousin
Chariot spam?
Only armybooks are not fanfics, don't you know. And even then...
Sounds like a bad case of autistic headcanon senpai
My advice is suicide
Its okay, it was platonic.
wtf I'm reading
>Slayer of Redditras
>Redditras
>mammoths
>skinwolves
>fimir
>base chaos template
I'm joking, but desu a lot of the novels are shit and full of retcons and inconsistencies, same with armybook editions. You will have to pick and choose. Also, I ain't going to accept GW canon after what they did.
Middenland soon fellow Teutogen.
Based isn't he
Minus the Fimir that is the base. As long as there are no Demons.
Yes, those are all part of the Warriors of Chaos army on the tabletop, FW but still.
Wanna get mad?
Settra was turned into a sigmarine in Aos
>Teutogen guard dlc costs 90 dollars
have you accepted the skaven supremacy yet?
soon Lizardmen dlc
That ratto looks like it wants to sell me something.
So what was the date for it?
No
Thread old as fuck, but does someone know how to solve the scarce but no less annoying post battle ctd situation? Shit's gettin on my nerves.
oy
Reminder that Sigmar is just a man and that you should worship Taal, the true King of the Gods, instead.
before Three kingdoms release
>we can't have both Ikit and Thanquol in the ratman dlc, we have to choose between them
Skinny old man
G(M)ork could beat the shit out of him
What, like Vampire Coast?
I really want them both, why did they waste a slot with rictus
FUCK RAKI, OR SKITTERS AS I LIKE TO CALL THEM
Around Elves...
Good. Fuck that shitty memerat.
Sigmar and Taal are shitters. Ulric is where it's at
What is marienburg worth? Nothing. Everything!
When Chaos was invading for thw first time, it was he who stood bravely with his brother Ulric against the tied of Chaos.
He would beat the living shit out of both.
That's hot
I know it's a dwarf typing this
How did you reach the keyboard?
>we'll get neither and instead get some literal who lord from a literal who clan
It's confirmed that we're getting Clan Carrion in the DLC.
Dont burn yourself on the fire on your way out retard.
Ulric is just his little brother and holds no authority.
I highly doubt that we will get Thanquol as DLC Lord for Warhammer 2.
Maybe we will get him with Warhammer 3 or a End Times game.
>This is what the tree hugger thinks
Pygmies
Taal is a faggot who skulks about in the trees and dirt like a filthy Beastman
Besides what others have mentioned it would be good to see mercenaries for hire to be added. These mercenaries could have Amazons, halflings, and some creative bands from different races to have a variety in ones human army.
... who?
I know you're baiting, but if we get Carrion of all things I will legitimately rage.
ELF FEET
>chaosbane beta is out
>cookie cutter cast of welf, humans, dorfs, and helf
>can't play druchii
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>furry faggot mad his God has no cool memorable Legend about him apart from fucking Wolves
And Ulric is a faggot that fucks Wolves and conducts in Orgies with Beastmen probably even creating them in that process since hes a drunk fuck.
I dont remeber fully myself but there is a 50/50 chance that user is right.....
>baiting
I wish.
I look forward to the upcoming Throt the Unclean dlc.
Compare their characters to the cast of vermintide
The chaosbane guys are so terrible it's surreal
So THAT'S what Karl rides, huh
Ulric warrior priests are too bad ass for this to be true.
Ulrican Warrior Priest holds no candle to Proper War Priest of Sigmar.
I'm just sad that in most games you play those races and only a handful of games offer more.
The time will come for a Malus Darkblade game brother
I hope
The four great clans need to be playable. Its fucking crime that we got a literal fucking who playable instead of another great clan rep.
Deathmaster Snikch is better
Warrior priest of Ulric are less about inspiring their fellow man and more about going into contempt fueled rages for the weak and chaotic. Also they use two handed axes, which are slightly cooler than hammers.
Kislev and Dogs of War, maybe they could even brew a Cathay and Ind armies almost from a scratch
Look at the berserker Priests of Taal, they represent true fury and manliness on the battlefield on relying on their skills and simple weapons.
Only lorelet want deathmaster since he can't lead armies
Egyptians
The fact that the Wizard is a Elf instead of imperial Wizard that can chose one of the winds for specialization triggers me to no end.
and Tretch somehow can?
You will get one more and be content with that.
>Ulric Priest
>seething neckbeards nobody likes and gets nothing done but die
>Sigmar Priest
>Properly Bald, strong shiny and inspiring
>Taal, Sigmar and Ulric
>Not Morr
Don't forget to whom your soul belongs to after you die faggots
Thanquol is not a memerat, fuck off
Horned Hunters are not priest you shitlet. They barely do anything but fuck animals.
And people wonder why the number of beastmen doesn't drop.
So all skaven players are furfags?
All you do is pay the priests of morr and go back to worshiping the other gods.
There's so many useless and corrupt sigmarite priests. Ulricans on the other hand wouldn't stand for that shit.
Yoh.
Have faith that CA will release a post TWW3 lordpack
He is a warlord who isn't prohibited by his ninja code to lead a military force
>Ulricans on the other hand wouldn't stand for that shit
Ulricans only care about themselves, they barely venture out of middenheim to help the people of the Empire.
No
Ulric and Taal followers are with their weird obsession about the absolute meme animal that is the wolf
what makes you think that? skaven players are the chads of the warhammer players
I thought Tryboi became Avatar of Khaine because he was betrayed by Teclis
I'm more interested in unitpack. Were is my medusa, ca.
>end times
cease this faggotry
>helping people outside the Middenlands
Why bother
every skaven player i've known has been a furfag
there's a lot of good porn
sure there is
Exactly, why deprive the capable of the struggle they need to grow strong and weed out the weak? Also they have a pretty good reason for not leaving their home which is so damned close to the chaos wastes. Stopping chaos in their lands is helping the empire.
And Ulricans wonder why no one likes their furry ass.
South landers are faggots, who cares what they think
Seething furfag can comprehend that Ulric deifies the strength and community of wolf packs without wanting to sexually abuse animals like all Skaven players.
Good riddance, the more distant we are from northern barbarians, the better
The strength and community of a glorified cowardly vermin covered in parasites
What an absolute meme of an animal, perfect for an absolute meme of a god that got cucked by Sigmar worldwide
>weed out the weak?
The empire is not a lawless land of beast.
The weak can gain strength from the guidance and help of the strong, together the bonds of the Empire of Man grows. Just ask any chaos Champion that got Gunned/Sworded/Halberded.
And Middenlanders are pussies. Hochland, Nordland, Ostland and Ostermark are closer to more dire threats yet they still answer when the call is given. They are just bitter that the chosen champion successor of Ulric became the proper god of the Empire.
Etc
This shit is so anime and I love it.
Sigmar was a Ulric worshiper tho.
Where my grey knight bros at
He knew no better
And was blessed by Ulric to replace him as the Defender god of Man. Ulric was a god of a Barbaric age, Sigmar the god of a united Mankind.
Fine, then Longshanks.
Your god worships my god, never forget that laddie.
Originally, Sigmars divinity was supposed to be suspect. As was even the veracity of Ghal Maraz being the ACTUAL ghal maraz. Sigmar's 'ascendancy' came to some crazy monk in a dream and became a religious phenominon in the early empire.
Meanwhile it was always hinted Ghal Maraz was fake and that the real hammer had been returned to the Dwarves by Sigmar when he fucked off and they had it in a vault somewhere.
Lots of things were left open to question in WHF until later editions cemented them for whatever demented marketing purposes GW had
Also, if we're talking about Ulric, lets remember Ulric was subordinate to Taal.
And that is why Taal is the King of the Gods and not those scrawny ass faggots.
sauce me
>lets remember Ulric was subordinate to Taal
Was he really? He still ran around in metal armour and helped people build civilisation while Taal was crying in his forest
no
Sigmar already ascended even before he left the Empire. The fires of Ulric's flame transferred divinity unto him a fact that made the king of Tuetogens go REEEEEEEEE.
He left Ghal Maraz behind as a link to the Empire, it doesn't matter if its fake or not, if the wielders faith is strong enough he connects with it and gives it power.
Taal and Ulric are gods of another dead world before Sigmar's they need someone to bind the winds of magic unto, Sigmar was it.
Ulric, Sigmar, Taal, it doesn't matter, sooner or later all will come to Morrs embrace
>Ulric was subordinate to Taal.
lol Taal is so inconsequential that people don't even worship him as singular deity and he always comes prepackaged with his wife.
I like the Empire because I thoroughly enjoy seeing state troops beat eldritch horrors and hordes larger, stronger and more numerous than them. FUCK chaos and FUCK orcs and FUCK skav- I mean, FUCK edgy elves, FUCK vampires and FUCK anyone else who thinks they can outlast the Empire. Elves can stay IF they want to be reasonable. Dwarfs are top blokes.
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Even with bullshit that End Times were, Taal, Ulric and so on weren't gods of the previous world, they were survivors from it
Yes he was.
And how exactly did he "build" something when he was the god of War and Winter.
Hes the definition of backwards neet life in a cave like the early Cavemen.
Can't build a civilisation without stepping on a few toes, buddy. War is an integral part of the Empire
Ahem...
Subjects of the empire! May I have you attention
As your Emperor I just want to say one thing.
F U C K C H A O S
Thank you and carry on.
That is exactly what the empire is. Every province is riddled with goblins, beastmen, trolls, witches, rogue wizards, and the occasional chaos cultists and bandits. Ulric and his followers hold personal strength and self reliance as one of the highest virtues. You still support your society and family, but you have to be able to stand on your own first and foremost.
The first invasion was way before the age of human.
Reminder that he was able to beat an Everchosen in a duel
I think you you surely meant to say that Verena helped build civilisation...
>laughing nagash in the distance
Sure, she helped as well
An old Legend even before the time of the Empire.
"And then the Cataclysm came. King Taal rose from His Forest, and with Dark Morr muttering dire portents in His ear, He banished all immortals from the world. But the Cataclysm’s architects refused His order. The Crow, the Hound, the Serpent, and the Vulture were jealous of King Taal, and had tried to use the Great Gates to take what was His. They had failed. As the other immortals fled, the Four attacked, bitter and angry with their frustrations. Many died. After countless battles, King Taal was eventually surrounded. There were few still by his side. Ulric the Wolf. Noble Margileo. Just Verena. Sotek the Snake. Manann of the Sea. And Gentle Shallya, tear-stained and afraid. Even Smiling Ranald had fled, and now hid in the Places Between, fearful for the future. Then, just as the Four and their allies arrived for the Final Battle, Flaming Phoenix, whom all had thought dead, returned from atop His Gleaming Pyramid, and He smote about Him. Thus the rebels were pushed behind the Great Gates, and were sealed there forever. But they were restless in their cage, and soon worked to escape."
—Translated from the Obernarn Stone, now held in the Imperial Museum, Altdorf
Ah yes, Nagash, a personification of a mad neet who nobody likes
Dark Gods absolutely SEETHING at Taal.
FUCK THE DAWI AND STUNTIES
Stacking Tanks as the Empire is even more funnier.
>every leader is stacking this shit
>its a Bretonnia campaign
All those peasants. Say what you want about SFO, at least it stops this bullshit, what a massive oversight from CA.
>The other games aren't really worth playing.
Shogun 2 and Attila say hi.
Or Star Dragons as the helves
Take heed all ye misguided heathen, there is no god greater than Ursun.
Protector of men, and nemesis of the great adversary!
>tfw Wulfrik gets on a boat with 18 mammoths and lands right on your coast
What the fuck is wrong with this guy
This one's my second favorite, favorite will always be EAT SHIT I WILL TALK ABOUT NAGASH
Man I really want Kislev
And the southern realms
And Araby
God fucking damnit
He secretly owns a traveling circus that specializes in mammoth tricks
Are you the ratfag from /twg/?
At least Wulfrik has an excuse, his boats magic
Your god is dead grandpa.
You better be thankful Sigmar picked up the torch and became the proper god of Mankind.
no
Everchosen's are overrated.
He's the fantasy equivalent of this guy but with throat singing.
Heh, I'm in the same boat since my 2 favorite factions are Greenskins and Lizardmen (kill me). I really feel the urge to play, not the lorebreaking, AI cheating vampire filled live version of the game; but the idealized Warhammer campaign that CA doesn't just doesn't deliver.
>end times/sigmarine lore
Eeeww
that has been the case even before the end times.
Game 2 only unfortunately
Every isekai ever
Stormcloaks, I tell ya.
>feel urge to play
>well there's no point starting a campaign now, the new race is gonna come out soon and that'll make the world map so much more exciting
>dlc comes out
>buy it
>well, this race hasn't had their mechanics updated yet and I really want to play them, better wait for the next content drop
So Kerillian in Vermintide, are all wood elves as stuck up as her or is she particularly unsociable?
>are all elves as stuck up as her
FTFY
Also yes, without exception.
Give me monogods or give me death!
Believe it or not, she's actually one of the more tolerant and social of them.
When trying to save replay or during loading? If its the former its due to mods in older replays.
Skaven DLC soon bro-bros.
got more? asking for a friend.
based and ratpilled
It's a shame I can't finish my epic 200+ turn Chaos campaign. I had 7 armies going at once. Archaon was getting 300 or more kills a battle from spells alone and when groupled up with the Swords of Chaos RoR he made for sonw fun charges. Sigvald when using the Chalice of Chaos became an undefeatable deulust. And Kholeck is fun no matter his level. Empire was also putting up a good fight, caught me in ambushes and used superior numbers. When you start givin baby stacks some chaos warriors it starts moving along well.
Twwh3 fuckin when...
It's basically vermintide diablo only with worse voice acting and banter, uninspired classes with all that Warhammer has to offer.
>another wutelgi archer
>no wardancer
>no dwarf engineer/runelord
>no warrior priest or college wizard other than fire
>no white lion or loremaster of hoeth
And the fact that is another flashy arcadey diablo clone with typical AAA bullshit practices like season passes and boosts kills any interest I had in the game, its 60 dollars to boot lmao.
Honestly thought it was 25-40 bucks at least, it has no business charging fucking 60 dollars with the quality of the models and cutscenes.
*malbork
Summed it up well. I'm glad that warhamner fans only go for as quality as they can get when it comes to vidya. I plan on skipping that game as well.
In fairness, vermintide has some of the best voice acting in the business.
Exactly my thinking.
Even Vermintide was only around 30 and it has heaps of more to offer than Chaosbane.
Hopefully the game gets cheap soon.
They dont tho.
All those trashy turn based 40k games alone disprove of what you said.
Warhammer fans lash on nearly every game just to ge the fix for this franchise.
Its a bad habbit for sure.
The End Times is much worse than any fan theory.
40k fags =/= Warhammer fantasy chads
There only being a high elf mage is highly accurate to the lore of the period though. I will give them that, the wood elf, not so much as I can recall.
40kids are subhumans, dont compare warhammer fantasy to them
Well its because 40k is more popular that it got more games, if Fantasy was in the same shoes we would have the exact ammount of crappy turn based games.
The rule on that still applies for both you absolute retard.
Turn based games are simple money grapping trash games that never offer something and only bleed the franchise out of licenses.
The devs hang out in the subreddit, so it's not surprising they added that.
>redditrats
Marienburg, best burg.
Is that a particular TW Warhammer reference?
Because Marienburg isn't part of the Imperium either.
Told you all skaven are furries
Marienburg is a very profitable city to take if you're playing empire, and Bretts home in on it nearly instantly.
By sigmar my dick
That´s just fanfiction posted in a blog. It´s not in the End of Times books.
You entitled nu-fans are so sad.
Do I need to bring up your secret stash of wolf porn Ulric?
Nah. 7th edition empire army book had a story like that, in a battle against a random greenskin horde against which Marius dies as the irrelevant character he really is and later on Karl, while losing his duel against the Orc Warboss, gets infused by Sigmar
no-furs just cant appreciate a strong-mighty stormvermin
Yes yes fren. Filthy man-things will fall agaunst mighty skaven. May the horned gnaw their entrails.
>dude warpstone lmao
Handsome ratto.
rat cummies in elf tummies
>stormvermin
>brown
tf are you doing?
Queek is so handsome and pretty
I hate Skaven but I find Queek is really aesthetically pleasing for some reason
must be the armour
stormvermin are all aesthetically pleasing, but why do you hate skaven? they are the best faction
b-bump
Worst faction.
Mary sues and atract homosexual furry lovers.
Easily worst faction.
>Mary sues
Fucking what?
>lets blow up the black pyramid again! undetected
mad no-fur undead-thing, nagash fears the skaven and you should too
This, anyone who calls anything mery sues are all braintards. I had a friend who I tried to get to play wfrp with and not only did he call the elves sues (despite being a ultramarine player) he also called the dwarves sues too because of the relationship they have with the empire, because god forbid factions being friends
if your reading this your a god damn faggot and I’m glad you blocked me you god damn tranny
NIGHT GOBLINS BEST GOBLINS
Vermintide II is 77GB WTF?
2 tumes even.
>he call the elves sues
He was right on high elves, but wrong on dwarves. Skaven are a bit of sues, but really that's ET shit that people remember.
HEY FAGGOTS
PLAY BLOOD BOWL
>most number
>fucking everywhere
>best technology
>strongest independent chaos god
Just to name a few.
I just really fucking hate them and all the homos adoring them and the memes makes then not any better.
get rekt hooman
spotted the man-thing, dab on him ratbros
see his argument for why elves where sues where because they could use all the winds of magic/high magic while any human who tried to master any other winds would turn insane but like, there not even the best, the slaan are. he always tried to turn the convo back to "fuck elves" whenever I tried correcting him.
Chaos dwarfs have the best technology you fucking secondary
I wouldn't expect you to know that either way
>strongest independent chaos god
Oh no, chaos that isn't just the extremely flanderized 4 sides! Stop it at once!
You're the reason Warhammer died and was garbage in its death throes
Go back to eating, shitting and stabbing each other you degenerate rat scum.
Mary Sue only had significance when it was first coined as a term, it lost all weight and meaning and became "things I dislike but can't provide reasons"
>Mary sues
>Lose literally every battle outside of the backstory shit with Nagash outside of the meme tkmes
Why is warhammer lore always so over the top its gay..... Why cant things just be powerfull why do they always be like 3 giga bomb bazilion magic bolt thunderomegalul strong. i really like the factions and world in 40k and fantasy, but the power level shit is always turning me off
If they were relevant then yes.
But Skaven have fucking fenetic manipulation and teleports and what not with Warpstone you fag.
All Chaos Dwarfs fo is slap a Daemon on it to make it work in most of the time.
And of all the minor Chaos Goda he still is the most prominent.
I dont see how I am the reason that a bloated and stagnant tabletop franchise came to an end while you faggot kept throwing money at GW.
Anyway its better of dead so now we get more video games out of it.
Swedish coding
*kills your setting*
what now-now?
You cannot loose if you rarely participate in battles.
They still took many Karaks.
never too many, dwarf-things deserve to lose all of them to the skaven, the city of pillars its just the beginning
I play video games based on the franchise that werent possible before and can kill Skaven to the millions which I do in Vermintide.
So thank you I guess, enjoy your new shit setting called AoS.
unironically fucking mudslimes
>T-THEY DON'T COUNT
Ok secondary
>Of all the minor Chaos Goda
As of the later editions there's only 2 of them, rat and hashut and being stronger than hashut isn't noteworthy in the slightest
>Using daemons to make things work is ok
>Using warpstone to make things work half of the time is not ok
Maybe because that is also a selling point?
Prior to meeting Warhammer everything was very tame in comparison be it fantasy or sci-fi, after meeting WH it was simply different based on the scale and brutality everything was.
Dwarfs are fucking retarded and could've easily wiped them out whole they were developing had they not been busy picking fights with the elves
Skaven are still shit.
>Saying the N-word in such a casual tone
Maybe not the best place for this BUT
I really like the leveling / gearing up of lords and heroes, using abilities in battle.
I want a whole game based on that, but I dont really care about story. Any good recommendations?
Surprisingly enough their team is 90% white
Must be tencent, chinks fear niggers
seething beard-thing
Or you know...the fucking Orcs that were everywhere in the first place.
Couldve ignored them too huh?
At the height of their power they didin't have problems defeating scattered and divided tribes of orcs
It's after their fall that they began to get GREEN'D
Compared to 40k at least fantasy is incredibly toned down.
They could make an amazing action RPG set in the chaos wastes with massive amounts of customisation in the form of mutations, why is it not a thing
Seething Fagorraki.
*dabs on lizard-things*
*launches nuke*
*kills your slann and all of your named characters*
what now?
And yet half of the holds were still in Urk possesion.
Spellforce series, maybe?
>The absolute state of dwarfs
>dabs on furry faggots
>sacrafices and kills so many Skaven they flee the continent
>kills so fucking many they suffer PTSD in the next setting because they fear the chad Saurus
Pathetic furfags.
no-furs mad but skaven keep winning, nothing can stop skaven
true, disregarding end times