How will it be implemented into Sekiro?

>it's hard to implement
Bullshit.

For all we know, there may not be anything in the whole game that produces magic like what you'd see with the MLGS' beams. Of course it would child's play to just throw the Old Moonlight model in the game and have you shoot a sword beam out of your prosthetic, but it wouldn't be fitting for the game. Alternatively, you could torture the fundamental premise of it so much that you arrive at Tenchu's Moonlight Blade, where it was a katana and most people didn't even register that it was meant to be a Sword of Moonlight reference.

So either you're taking something's defined aesthetic and forcing it somewhere it doesn't fit, or taking something's defined aesthetic away from it so that it can be forced to fit. It's more respectful to leave it out than to twist it until something has to break.

>tfw no moon lightsaber coming from the left hand

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LEFT HANDED WEAPON
LEFT ARM GADGETS
IT ALL MAKES SENSE

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Prosthetic Tool, like the Shinobi Axe.

But, they said it's not in, like others have posted.

Could be BS'ing and it might be in, though.

>of actual Sengoku era Japan

Yeah, about those Viking/Anglo double edged swords....

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Only fags like that sword.

They could do anything with it. It could be a powerful assassination/backstab tool called the Moonlight Dagger, have it focus on the stealth/night aspect of "moonlight". They don't literally need to have a magic greatsword, just a blue moonlight weapon in some way.

>he thinks the Moonlight consistently shoots beams
lol

They could, but that's exactly what the sort of scenario they meant by not wanting to feel like they were "just going to put it out for the sake of it". If you have to change it so much that it's not the Sword of Moonlight anymore, it's no longer a tribute to the Sword of Moonlight, it's just marking off a checkbox because you're "supposed to".

>If you have to change it so much that it's not the Sword of Moonlight anymore, it's no longer a tribute to the Sword of Moonlight
It's literally just the name and color. That's it.

it'll be a katana skin you unlock when you beat the game deathless

You may feel that way, but apparently they don't.

It's not about how I feel. It's the truth. You're the one trying to push the idea that beams have to be involved, which is false.

If it were the truth, they'd have put it in Sekiro as something with just "the name and color". Besides which, I only mentioned the beams as one possible reason they might not want to do it. I already acknowledged that it was even a katana at one point, so they could easily have taken that route again, but deliberately chose not to.

The fact it's not in means they think there's more to it than you do.

why are dark souls fans so delusional

Nope. It means they're just lazy, want to distance themselves from Dark Souls, or lying. I'd put money on the latter two personally, but anyone that buys this hogwash excuse of "no guys it's hard to implement trust us" is a moron when the sword has been everything from a katana to a laser blade for giant robots.

baste
cringe, redundant response that starts of contrarian but just ends up saying exactly what the post you replied to said. you need to get off Yea Forums for a while.

>has been everything from a katana to a laser blade for giant robots
Those are actually the only two odds things it has been. It's been fairly consistent otherwise, even in fucking Ninja Blade.

It's just as likely they consider its brief stint as a katana a mistake, or they may even go so far as to discount the Tenchu cameo, since the only thing that really ties it into the history of the Moonlight Sword is the description. It wasn't even glowing cyan.

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literally the "I Clapped When I Saw It" of weapons
Soulsfags all need to take a bullet to the brains

>Getting this mad at video games

>It's just as likely they consider its brief stint as a katana a mistake, or they may even go so far as to discount the Tenchu cameo, since the only thing that really ties it into the history of the Moonlight Sword is the description. It wasn't even glowing cyan.
I think people picking out a katana that happens to reference the moon and using that to say it was secretly an MLGS reference the whole time is just people talking out of their ass.

Wrong. It's a one handed sword in Eternal Ring and this fucking thing in AC5. You're just pretending the consistency is there to suit your argument.

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>It's a one handed sword in Eternal Ring
The shape's still the same, and the Armored Core variants have been the only significant departure, because they're mecha. Hell, even in King's Field it was really more one-handed, only swelling up to 2h size later on. Even a one-handed Moonlight Sword wouldn't really fit in with how Sekiro's handling offhand weapons.

So let's get this straight. It's been a:
>one handed sword in multiple games
>two handed sword in multiple games
>katana in multiple games
>energy blade in multiple games
>weird ass curved blade in multiple games
But it's too hard to incorporate into Sekiro because...? There's no consistency. They could do fucking anything with it.

The katana example is actually bullshit. It's in Tenchu Z, which wasn't made by From, just published by them. It's just a katana that's tied to the moon because it's curved like a crescent. The only reason people say it's a reference to the MLGS is because they went looking for one and it's the closest thing that fits.

>katana in multiple games
Incorrect, people are fucking stupid.

>retards that never played Otogi
youtu.be/xb_y3EbsAi8

That looks like a katana to you? Are you a moron?

Here's a shot from a video where they're actually standing still long enough for you to see the damn thing.

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how many more fucking years do I have to wait for a new armored core?

they're skipping an entire console generation

Here it is in Enchanted Arms.

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>Oh I know I'll pick apart this one thing instead of addressing the point at hand
If you didn't have an argument you shouldn't have said anything.

And in Evergrace.
Outside of the Armored Core games, where the rules obviously went straight out the window, it has a fairly consistent appearance.

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3 years at most.
trust me.

If one of the things you said was wrong, you shouldn't have said it.

>Outside of the Armored Core games
You mean the ones that count for nearly half of the total number of appearances?

Is Armored Core fun?
I heard it was like that Daemon X Machina game in terms of gameplay, but way better. Can anyone confirm?

Daemon x machina is coming out later this year.

The only real variance is whether it's 1h or 2h, or if it's a mecha game. The singular katana example is bullshit misinformation people spread around because they don't know what they're talking about.

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>The only real variance is whether it's 1h or 2h, or a laser blade or a curved blade
So there's no real consistency, yes?

You mean the ones where the fundamental premise of the sword's existence is different?

You say
>You're just pretending the consistency is there to suit your argument.
but it's just as easy to say you're pretending there's no consistency just to suit your argument. As soon as the rug got pulled out from under you with the katana bullshit, you're leaning into the AC versions as "proof" as hard as you possibly can.

Daemon x machina is by the people who worked on AC but either left, or were fired from From. So yes, based on the demo they are extremely similar.
Just don't let people convince you AC was some godly series, they were fairly jank in their own ways.

>or a curved blade
It's not a curved blade in ACV, that's the emitter. The blade is still a laser blade like it's been in the other ACs. It's like pointing to the DeS and Bloodborne swords having different hilts, that's not actually the sword.

it doesn't even have pvp

online is 4A was some of the greatest fun I had

There is no consistency other than the color, which is a non-issue. You say "oh look at all these games where it generally looks the same" while ignoring the dozen+ where it's not even in the same territory. If they had applied the same retarded idea of "it's hard to make it work and look good" then it never would have appeared in Armored Core in the first place.

Except it wasn't hard to make it work and look good in Armored Core, because they weren't having to put it into a similar environment to what it had already been in. If it got to be the MLGS in Ninja Blade, having to turn it into something else for Sekiro makes it disjointed. It becoming a laser sword in Armored Core doesn't come across as disjointed because it's so far from King's Field that it's no longer a concern for it to stay comparable.

a boss will have it and during the fight it'll be shattered. you'll then reforge it into the moonlight monohoshizao

Because they kept narrowed it down to the name and color. The transition from magical sword to giant energy blade is so out there that anything else is fair game. Stop defending them for their obvious bullshit.

The transition from magical sword to giant energy blade only happens when you transition from magical world to post apocalyptic mecha. The sword is fit to its surroundings both times, mechanically and thematically.

I can't imagine anyone was bitching that it didn't make an appearance in The Adventures of Cookie & Cream. I can imagine people bitched that it didn't appear in Deracine, but those people are idiots.

The real problem is, since it can't be a primary offense weapon like it's usually able to, that it doesn't make for a mechanical fit. You could have a "moonlight dagger", if you were willing to bastardize it to that point, but what does it add to the game for the dagger to be a weak reference to the Moonlight Sword? Just the satisfaction of ticking a box so people like you don't whine? You keep saying it's bullshit, but in my opinion, that would be lazy bullshit. I am in agreement that if they can't do it right, they shouldn't do it.

>Tenchu

What? What game?

>seriko isn't dark souls
>youtu.be/iWbDg81FLr8?t=20
are you sure about that one lad?

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In Tenchu Z, there's a katana that references the moon. People are stupid, and think that since the game's box says From Software on it and there's a sword that says moon somewhere on it, it's the Moonlight Sword. Only Z wasn't made by From, they just published it.

Alright so it's dlc then

Oh I see. That sounded weird to me for sure because I played them all and don't remember anything remotely close to From's greenish glowing blade.

What's stopping an enemy from using it?
>what does it add to the game for the dagger to be a weak reference to the Moonlight Sword?
It's always been a weak reference in Armored Core so I don't see what the problem is. Reminder that in the games it first appeared it was just the strongest energy blade with no other unique properties. Going from magical blade to energy sword and magical blade to dagger is the same in my eyes.
I don't care one way or another if they include it and likely won't play Sekiro at all. All I'm saying is that their reasoning doesn't hold under scrutiny.

They dodged questions about it with Bloodborne and acted coy. Miyazaki even said maybe it was already in the game and people didn't realize (which could probably be taken to reference Ludwig's Holy Blade being in-universe styled after the Holy Moonlight Sword).
Here they're flat out saying no. I think it's actually for real no this time.

>What's stopping an enemy from using it?
Because that's hardly satisfying for players that want to use it and would cause more bitching than leaving it out.

>Going from magical blade to energy sword and magical blade to dagger is the same in my eyes.
Well, your eyes aren't the important ones. If they were willing to accept something like that, they'd have done it.

>All I'm saying is that their reasoning doesn't hold under scrutiny.
Their reasoning doesn't fit to what you consider to be reasonable standards. That's not an objective measurement, it's just comparing different viewpoints.

>Memezacki forgetting the MLGS is homage to Kingsfield and present in Armored Core long before Souls games started
This shit is making me seethe, it isn't a fucking DeS or DaS weapon nor a symbol of those games. Someone fucking remind him.

I really hope there's not a single slight hint at all of anything from their past games in this. No references, no nothing. You just know every fucking loreautist will be "HUUUUR HE SAID DEH UMBASA IT'S LE CONNECTED TO DEH NEXUS" or some bullshit and then Vaati will make 10 videos about it and it'll be shilled here til they release a new game.
Not to hate on lore talk but fucking hell the conclusions some people come to over it.

Speak for yourself bud.
>it's just comparing different viewpoints
Their viewpoint is SHIT and a garbage excuse. Saving all these screencaps so when it's announced as DLC (or worse, a pre-order bonus) the shitposting can begin enmasse.

Where the fuck does he say anything about "Dark Souls" in that?
You realize Miyazaki directed a couple Armored Core games and was also one of the lead designers of Last Raven, years before Demon's Souls even existed, right?

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Basado y rojoempillajado.

>Their viewpoint is SHIT and a garbage excuse.
Hate to break it to you, but one could just as easily say the same about you, pal. Are you going to pretend that if they made a Moonlight Dagger that the fanbase wouldn't complain about it?

We both know that the grand majority of From fans would see it and cream their pants. Only the most autistic people would hypocritically complain that it's supposed to be a sword.

I think the grand majority of From fans aren't going to whine about it not appearing either. Only the most autistic people would complain that literally every From Software game has to have it from now on, no matter how poorly it fits in.

Where was the outrage when it wasn't in Deracine? You might say something like "but you don't fight in Deracine, it wouldn't fit in." Well, they're saying now "You can't change your primary weapon, so it wouldn't fit in." I think that's a perfectly reasonable response.

It could literally be a magic thing on the arms that forms a "sword" that then launches the iconic moon-wave and that's it.

>I think the grand majority of From fans aren't going to whine about it not appearing either.
Then why the fuck bring it up as a point? Are you retarded?

What the hell do you mean "why bring it up"? It's not like this thread, or any discussion on the subject only just now started. What I'm getting at is that they'll probably have less complaints not doing it at all than they would get from doing it poorly. Even if a lot of people would be happy to take whatever they could get, you're going to upset a lot more people by giving them an unsatisfying version. If you don't do anything, then the people that are happy to take whatever they could get are still going to be happy, and you only have the people who think it absolutely had to be there.

>Only the most autistic people
You called?

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>What I'm getting at is that they'll probably have less complaints not doing it at all than they would get from doing it poorly.
You clearly haven't associated with the fanbase enough, but you're also an idiot for assuming that they'd do it poorly in the first place.

>but you're also an idiot for assuming that they'd do it poorly in the first place.
I'm assuming that if they chose not to do it at all, it's because they believed they'd have to do it poorly in order to do it at all.

They shit all over it in 3 by making it split magic/physical damage, and people complained constantly about how fucking bad it was.

That really doesn't have anything to do with the argument at hand and was part of the much larger problem of magic as a whole being shit.

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Maybe some optional sideboss gaijin wields it?

Well they are working with activation on this game so its going to fill up with blue berry gamer fuel and then shoot it out as a beam.

Looks like a Tsurugi to me, what's the problem?

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Betting it's some sort of attack you can unlock in endgame, like you charge the attack and it glows blue and does a shock wave or a heavy hit or something

>calling him memezaki when he deliberately does NOT want to include a meme into his games just because it's a meme

>muh gaylight sword

Nobody wants that shit. Sekiro is not Dark Souls.

He must be really fucking sick of soulsborne

>The Sword of Moonlight has been in such unlikely games as Tenchu (where it was a Katana)
>Izayaoi is now the Sword of Moonlight
The absolute state of Fromfags

what was the best iteration of the Moonlight Greatsword?

BB > DS3 > DS1 > DS2 > DeS

Nigger, the Moonlight blade isn't even originally from Souls games.

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>meme challenges for unlockables
>in my fromsoft game

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it was in Bloodborne too, and Kings Field, and Demon's Souls, It might appear as a spell or some shit

nether its from armored core.

I never said that.