Divinity Original Sin 2

Anyone have build suggestions for this game? I'm about to do a co-op run with a friend of mine for our first run.

About 90 hours of pure fun

Smells worse over here than a dozen rotten eggs dropped in a vat of vinegar

Try Summoner + Archer, Icemage, Bloodmage, Standard Rogue with some magic or a spearfighter.

>try to roll elf
>realize something strange about all the builds I can choose from
Okay, but what if I DON'T want to look like a faggot who's into BDSM? Why does this game fail right off the bat with role playing mechanics? Another fucking game Yea Forums lied to me about.

Anything with teleport and barellmancy, and do everything you can to piss your friend's experience miserable.

wait, is teleport something that is new to this game or was teleport in the "first" one as well?

Don't play an elf then you degenerate.

Building on this, depending if you wanna fuck your friend(s) over. Thievery and Sneaking is nice to have if you ever split off from the 4 man-party and you can seriously fuck with the vendors in the game by stealing.

If you're in the same party, try combining a poison potion with red dye and trade it to your friend as a "Health Potion". Shit yourself when he kills himself with a poisoned potion later in battle.

Not an argument, nor a defense for shit role playing in a game touted by everyone and their mother as a great RPG

Pretty accurate, had a much better time than the Witcher 3 with great story, good writing, mediocre acharacters and bad gameplay

>wants to not look like a faggot
>picks elf
You can't have both faggot.

Nigger are you high? Teleport and Telekinesis as well as the teleport pyramids were in the first game and fucking fun mechanics you could abuse even heavier than in DOS2.

Writing bad enough to ruin a game.

Story: Complete ass
Writing: Complete ass
Setting: Complete generic ass
Gameplay: 10/10GOTYAY
It's like a sandbox filled with cat turds.

if you care so much about what your character is wearing then you're already a faggot. Go back to playing Sims so you can play dressup

It's okay anons, you can stop being mad about deadfire.

i dont really play these games i dont care about another game

the writing in DOS2 is the worst writing i have encountered in a game, outside Borderlands 2. Buyer beware.

I played a Fire+Earth+Summoner with Necro supplement and Scoundrel+Huntsman (mobility skills)+Polymorph with Necro supplement, both lone wolf+glass cannon naturally, and shredded through the whole game (except boss fight at end of Act 1) on Hard. The Necro supplement is just for passive healing while you dedicate yourself to nuking shit.

This combination also gives solid coverage for when you come upon something that has stacked either of magical or physical armor but is weak to the other. Even if they're physically stacked though, free mobility+low AP cost+max AP turns+100% backstab crits means a solo Scoundrel can absolutely melt even the biggest physical armor pool in a couple of turns, if that.

I think the combat is apples and oranges. As for the rest, I never played SR but BG gameplay is more about interacting with the characters and the world whereas D:OS is more about interacting with the environment. That's kinda reductive but it's the best I can explain it. I rate BG higher for gameplay but D:OS isn't far behind. It's more a matter of preference.

BG was dark with some occasionally goofiness and levity but D:OS blends it all into this unique, goofydark atmosphere. It feels like a lot of those medieval stories that are both absurd and horrifying at the same time, which is what I think Larian was going for.

Both of you should do a Lone Wolf build and forgo any other companions. What kind of classes do you normally like?

I enjoyed TW3 but it was definitely not nearly as good as the hype made it seem.

Shit opinion and you voiced it, aknowledged and now fuck off back to whatever shitgame you came from.

first off, im not a nigger.
secondly, it was what, 5 years ago since i played the first game.
thirdly, hwo the fuck was i supposed to know teleport was in the game? never used it AFAIK. i just ran with the acid/poison(whatever came from that drop the rock spell) + fire combo which essentially destroyed everyone

I don't come from a game little user I don't build my identity around which game I think is the goodest

I mean if you think the writing is even redeemable in this game you don't read books which is probably for granted considering youre on Yea Forums and now this is a place for unintelligent normies like yourself :)

Divinity Defense force ASSEEEEEMBLEEEEE

So, you're saying if every human build was forced to wear a pink dildo for a hat, that you wouldn't mind because "playing dress up is for queers, and I am most certainly not a queer"

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Fun.

fun combat system, boring story

My first character was a Polymorph/Scoundrel with Lone Wolf before the nerfs and I almost had to start a new character because it was too insanely easy.

You pick the gay race and act surprised they look gay, just come out of the closet already you homo.

D:OS 2 has a better battle system than BG2 on paper but by the time you get to the third act of D:OS 2 the game becomes a bore because it's easy and you've already figured out all the abilities, while BG2 has scales in difficulty perfectly despite having a wierd combat system

>453787023
Not even worth a (You)

wait, you do know i did mean bg as in the first one?

i'm not disagreeing but generally speaking Yea Forums thinks bg1 has shit gameplay and bg2 has godlike.
thenagain Yea Forums doesn't understand that gameplay is more than just combat...

also i find your assesment of larian's design correct enough, although i don't think there's that much of a difference between the D:OS and bg goofyness. Essentially both had quite a lot of goofy stuff but still kept the main questline "goofyness free"

Have you played the updated endgame? I haven't but I heard it fixes the scaling issues.

Yes I have and no it doesn't

I haven't played DOS2 but really loved DOS1. I think the atmosphere is something that can be off-putting, it's pretty over-the-top and goofy and the humor won't always hit with people. I loved it, but your mileage may vary.

The combat is absolutely top-tier stuff, some of the best in the genre.

Can I play the it SOLO?

i have a hard time thinking that bg had a weird combat system...
nevertheless, i did say baldur's gate not, bg2 although it is still the same system so doesn't matter

No, it's literally impossible.

Elves are the queer faggot race in all games.
You picked the queer faggot race
Then you went online to complain about how the queer faggot race looks like queer faggots.

Why the fuck did every single enemy near the end of the game have flying/teleport skills as well as ranged attacks? I felt like it completely defeated the point of positioning if you're always going to be hit anyway. Blackpits is the best fight in the game because of how much they emphasized positioning, terrain, and manipulating everyone else in the fight and it really only goes downhill from there.

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DOS2 really tones down the humor. There's a few jokes tucked away here and there, but overall it's far more serious.

>i mean bg had the goofy stuff too, although perhaps not as blatant
Theres literally a belt to change gender for laughs
Minsc's pet is a space hamster.
Minsc
Jaheira literally cock hungry.

BG series plot is laughably bad desu.. And yet people praise that and call D:OS2 story bad? LOL

It's adapted straight from a tabletop game. Most classes only autoattack. Wizards have hundreds of abilities but 90% of them are useless. Despite all that it works and it's fun, that's wierd from a video game design standpoint
and I think the game does matter, in BG1 the combat sucks because you're too low level and in Throne of Bhaal the combat sucks because you're too high level, BG2 is the sweet spot

The athmosphere is amazing in DOS1, they completely ruined the fairy-tail like world they build, in DOS2. DOS2 was just edgy and cringe, like they tried so hard to appeal to all the fucking normie and BG homos that kept complaining.

Literally three weeks of "WHY IS THIS NOT MORE LIKE DARKSOULS AND SKYRIM?" after release in the forums.

One big tip: environmental hazards really fuck with the enemy AI. They will always prioritize not taking optional damage over taking optional damage to get in a better position or inflict a killing blow. Whatever, really.

So what you can do is, start a patch of fire, then spam an oil slick (starter ability, basically 0 turn cooldown, or starts at 1 turn and decreases to zero when you increase stats) on the edge of the existing fire. Expanding the fire will renew the entire patch as long as you increased it's area in some way (so spamming an oil slick in the middle of the fire will not keep it going). When you have literally nothing better to do, always just kill your leftover AP on starting/renewing/growing your patch of fire, for battlefield control. Before it covers the entire arena, it will serve to funnel enemies in specific direction, and when it covers the entire area, they won't move at all, but just sit for a second and waste their turn. Archers and mages can still cast over it but you can either out-range them if you need to recover/delay/avoid damage until your next turn, or at some points clouds of smoke will appear and block their field of vision so they also waste their turn.

This is invaluable information in controlling disadvantageous terrains and enemy positions. I've used in it D:OS1 and 2 to incredible effect. Pic related one particular example where you are so outnumbered I really felt like there was nothing I could do to cripple them through 10+ sets of magic/physical armor in less than ~3 turns before they would advance on me and push my shit in

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Blackpits is fun, but so damn long.

BG has a meh plot but it doesn't force it on you, and it makes up for it with good writing
Divinity has a bad plot which it forces on the player with too many exposition dumps, and average writing

Honestly, it's been so long since I played them and they're similar in so many ways that I see the two BG games as one game in my mind. My memories of the individual games have kinda melded together but I still stick by what I said.

As for goofiness, I find the goofiness in both D:OS to be almost an inherent part of the story. Everything about Braccus Rex and the things he did are so absurd that they're funny without taking away from the seriousness. I didn't get that same feeling from BG. The goofiness in BG didn't seem as intertwined with the seriousness.

well, yeah but there's a lot of not that obvious stuff too.
obviously miniature giant space hamPster is goofy but there were a lot of references too.
btw the plot isn't exactly bad, it's just the "norm" .
someone growing up, having a hard time, overcoming it and saving the world. essentially the story of every singly "hero story"

I keep picturing the most redneck jock from highschool typing this with an angry but self-satisfied expression on his face. Are you going to stuff effeminate nerds in lockers after spring break? Go play some ultimate frisbee as well?

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Im sorry but BG does not have good writing.

That's why it's so great especially if you're underleveled or don't have the right skills
Grueling endurance battle with an annoying NPC who keeps walking into fire and doing dumb shit while you either dump his ass onto a giant voidling or desperately spam healing spells on him

A great game. An amazing soundtrack. Some really solid voice actors. And fun. Just dont do what I cant help myself doing whenever I play; dont pick up every little thing, crafting isnt anywhere near what it was in DDOS1, and you dont need to really do any crafting except maybe potions and scrolls.

Then again, it has been years since I've played BG so my memory might be off.

why do you think that

THEN DONT COME OVER

You can try and deflect as much as you want but at the end of the day you chose to complain about picking the worst race.
Its like asking for someone to shit in your food then complaining that it tastes like shit

>On Nameless Isle
>Alexandar is supposed to be in the Elven Temple
>In the earlier act I sent that one guy into a rage to go after Alexandar
>I see the guy I sent after him dead where Alex is supposed to be
>Alex is no where
>I can not get his head to complete the Sallow Man quest or Red Prince

Fucking bugs.

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Yeah, don't become a compulsive looter, this isn't really the game for that. At the same time, you should definitely be a compulsive explorer.

the fact that most classes just autoattack makes it even simpler imo .
also wizards have hundreds of abilities IF over lvl 9 or something ? which isn't the case in bg
bg2 is a whole different story though, more abilities and still almost as broken :D

anyways, when i said it doesn't matter, i meant that it doesn't matter in the sense that the combat system is exactly the same. sure mages cast more and different spells but the foundation is the same.

ps don't try solo mage in bg1
i tried, i got to cloakwood at least and then got annoyed and quit

the combat system is only as good as the content
bg1 is get fucked over by dice rolls, in bg2 you're high enough level to have some tactical options

>game gives you options but railroads you into certain attire, which is antithetical to role playing
>STOP USING THE CHOICES GIVEN TO YOU AND JUST PLAY HUMAN LIKE EVERY NORMALFAG ON PLANET EARTH WHO ENJOYS VANILLA ICE CREAM
Having a laff at your faggotry m8

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This game has a lot going for it, but you might not enjoy it. The way that the game lets you interact with the environment, both in and out of combat, is simply fantastic. The freedom to tackle most situations your own way is very satisfying, but numerous parts of the game will force you into heavily scripted and unavoidable battles that are very uninteresting to play. The dialogue and character interaction is also a mixed bag as it can vary between enjoyable moments and boring tripe. Overall I would say that if you can look past some of the bad aspects of the game or you simply play it in co-op, then you will have a good time. However if you are like me, you will be stuck in that gray area of boredom, despite really enjoying many aspects of the game.

Just play literally any other race mate.
Faggots get the entire elf race. Everyone else gets Dwarves, Lizards, Humans and the undead variants of those races
You make it sound like its only Elf and Human.

It's a decent game, don't be fooled by Yea Forums's excessive hate and praise, the writing isn't as bad as people here make it out to be, but the gameplay also isn't remotely as good as people want you to believe, it's a solid RPG all around though that doesn't have anything particularly offensive, which puts it above 99% of WRPGs.
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>Okay, but what if I DON'T want to look like a faggot who's into BDSM?
Don't play dirty elves, it's that simple.
Also, get Majora's mod so you get more visual options.

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I think it's definitely better than just solid but I agree that it's overhated and overhyped.

He's in the godwoken place probably

u mad a game finally admits elves are for absolute sissies?

Play as Summoner, get as many levels as you can in summoning, get Adrenaline, Shadow, Ranged, Power and Warp infusions + a level 2 elemental infusion, spend 30 seconds of your first turn buffing your Incarnate to mildly annoy your friends and then make the enemies tremble before your wrath.

well, yes and no, i mean D:OS had sort of disconnected humor as well, which bg had too.
generally speaking, i don't think the "main" quest line in bg1 had any humour, while d:os had.
D:OS also had disconnected humour like the talking clam and the whole cat who wants to get laid and such.

granted, bg had the whole pantalones thing.

Anyways, i feel the same way, bg was sort of "serious with a goofy side" while D:OS was "goofy with a side of serious"...
sort of ...
i think... right?

>implying dice rolls doesn't matter in bg2
no more paint for you to huff on.

of course they do user, it's just that you're high enough level that it isn't as big of an aspect of the game.

My biggest problem with this game is that it just becomes piss easy later on. The entirety of chapter 4 was kind of boring on the gameplay side because me and my friennds were fucking gods of battle with every crowd control known to man , a bunch of teleports and mind controls. Almost no battle had more than one turn, the notable exceptions being the Kraken, the final battle and the Doctor, who we fought without putting out the candles and even then none of these were particularly hard

meant for

they nerfed blood magic in the enhanced edition but holy fucking shit it was OP in the regular one.

Every fight in Arx ended in half a turn because blood storm + grasp of the starved is absurdly broken.

what about us absolute sissies?

>I think it's definitely better than just solid
Nah, it's a good game but you can go on and on about how flawed it is
>Lots of unfinished content
>Act 3 and 4 are absolute jokes, especially coming from Act 2
>Female units with male battle voices
>Nerfed crafting into the ground coming from D:OS 1
>Most of your roleplaying options are pointless, just like the majority of RPG around, but still, doesn't excuse the lazy copypasting or the major lack of agency for most of the game
>None of what you do actually matters in how the game develops, aside from minor elements that still do not contribute to anything in the bigger picture
>Serious lack of actual, exclusive MC content, especially for people like Beast, who might as well not exist
>Actual "strategy" is still barely existent, though a bit of a step up coming from the even more braindead D:OS 1
>Ugly female models for humans
>Lack of actual bosses, most of your fights are just mooks recycled over and over, and when you get something that is apparently unique it's just a mook that will show up in later area
>Overall mediocre setting with nonexistent lore, though still MUCH better than the generic WoW ripoff that was D:OS
>Dumb levelling mechanics all around, dumb weapon scaling and general economy that punish you for not rolling a thief all the time
>Free respecs because the game's balance and content nature is ass
Again, it's a good game and a real work of love for most things, but not even remotely the holy grail that people want you to believe.

that's just wrong.
a roll of 1 will ALWAYS be a critical miss while a roll of 20 is ALWAYS a critical hit.
that's just one part of the whole shit.

anyways im going to bed

I bought it and barely played it. I guess I'm not one for rpgs.