What killed dbfz?

>Characters all feel the same
>Superdash is hela dumb
>Teleport is still + on block
Other than that, everything else is fine, or can be fixed.

Being a casual party game.

-No crossplay between PS4, Xbox, Switch and PC.
-DLCs

Why the fuck does every character feel the exact same? I tried one character, didn't like the way he felt. Tried another one, same thing. Realized they were all the same, lost interest.

Every character is the same

No one wants to be associated with sonicfox

Play beerus

Its what happens when you copy other people formula but then destroy any semblance of character variety and make everyone play the exact same.

I really do sorry for sueishia having their biggest franchise associated with that shit.

the game is still the most played fighting game online, so how is it dead?

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>2018+ fighters
>No cross platform play

Every platform dead after a month

Got any data to back that up, pham? I’d think Smash is railing its ass right now.

Shitty DLC

>making 90% of your cast figuratively the same character by having them all follow the same boring shoto template
>making 40% of your cast LITERALLY the same character by having them be recolors of Goku

Does anyone not hate Super

This, they really should just link it all up

the shitty furfag

Shueisha and Sonicfox

Tons of retarded 3rd worlders

I played up to SSj3. The game is pretty fun competitively, but once you realize you need to be running certain characters to gain advantage... like even a 8% damage difference in a combo means everything in that game. If your not min/maxing your wasting your time, and I feel that shouldn’t belong in a fighting game. Also I detest the hard lock downs you can endure. I was once locked in an endless loop against my roommate, the mofo learned how to keep me in block string permanently as long as I kept guessing his mixup correctly. I used my z change already as well. When that happened I knew this game was just fundamentally busted. Obviously I can reflect but he was punishing me for that earlier. This game is like 70% mind games with your opponent. Once you have fluid movement and block string, you don’t even focus too much on what your even pushing.

>killed
Stop trying to play fighting games on PC, PCasuals can't handle the genre and the population is always on ps4
With that out of the way the issues streaming it from a months ago got people nervous about the plug potentially being suddenly pulled which did damage the community but as long as the game keeps getting official support it'll rebound, though I do expect a drop when the next DB game comes out that will let more casual fans and power level fags spam beams at each other with no thought

they literally buffed guard cancel to the point where you can break out of most combo strings as long as you pay attention

yes, you can break out of vegito/cell/a. gohan strings as long as you keep ((((one)))) bar of meter on hand

Boring snap loop meta, obvious p2w in the form of dlc(bardock,vegito,videl,jiren are top tier), everyone outside of 3 characters have the same bnb combo structure, no faulconer score, no punishments for ragequitters, thus making ranked pointless.

>fighting game

Not the most played but it's doing alright on PC. The big fighting games seem to be all experiencing a dip.

steamcharts.com/cmp/389730,678950,310950,801630#3m

>everyone outside of 3 characters have the same bnb combo structure
This meme is fucking stupid. A significant portion of the original cast and almost every DLC character has distinct combo structures available and some of them can't even do a regular staircase at all.

-The vast majority of the characters play the same way. And since most of them can do similar things, you might as well pick the one that does it the best, which is why we keep seeing the same select few characters.

-The superdash+jump spam. It invalidates a lot of options and is almost un-reactable under certain circumstances. And when it gets spammed, the whole game boils down to 2H’ing which gets mundane after a while.

-Assists are way more important than they should be. Losing assists means losing options that you NEED to deal with all the bullshit in this game. And if your opponent has all of their assists while you lost all of yours, then you’re at such a disadvantage that the match might as well be over already.

The game has too many nitpick that together makes for an awful experience.

Shit like characters being able to cross you up by spending meter even though you are already in the corner, assists recovery being so fast or blockstrings so long that you can have your assists back without much consequence at the end of it, being + on blocked vanishes, the entirety of adult Gohan, Bardock and gotenks, season passes being really fucking expense for no other reason besides greed and many inconsistencies during game play like being able to sometimes hit or miss the super dash with particular moves.

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>-Assists are way more important than they sh
>he says this in a tag fighter
>literally what has been the norm of tag fighters since their inception
dude seriously? do you want xfactor lvl 3 again where it's a last minute gamechanger that is so powerful you can decimate all 3 characters after 3 mixups?

homoginized cast, no assist options, braindead offense, weak defense, poor online

>obvious p2w
How can you say that after Kazunoko steamrolled everyone with fucking Yamcha?

Whoever tried to get tournaments to pay to stream the gane

Lack of characters plus it was just a reskin nothing new and to think the mexicans were hyping it up for months.

everyone and their mother knows that toei fucking hates tournaments as much as Nintendo so none of that happens unitl the world tour or evo at least melee fags kept their game alive for a long ass time

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ITT: scrubs who picked this game up a year ago and haven't played since

[/spoiler]Yea Forums never lasts when it comes to fightan, same thing with RTS

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didn't harada fix the problem?

is Toei so retarded that they think people won't buy the next dragonball fighter if an older one is continually supported

I fking hope that he figures out a way to please toie cus that tweet came out before the year started and not much has changed also that guy has some fucking nerve trying to speak English lmao

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>x-factor level 3 again
Woah I never said I wanted that. Just make so that we aren’t completely reliant on assists just to get anything done in this game.

You need them for mixups and to open up your opponent, you need them to keep your opponent in place or else they’ll jump+evade practically everything, you need them make your best offensive options safer, you need them for a lot of your damage, etc.....They’re just used for far too many things in this game and losing those options makes it feel like your playing an incomplete character.

Just simply giving characters more anti-airs and overheads (with poor scaling) that you can combo into without assists, can go a long way in making comebacks easier and making it feel like you still have options despite losing your assists.

Being based on the single most plebian anime franchise to ever exist while also being an Arcsys fighting game known for its unreactable 50/50 mix ups into 50/50 mix ups into death with a control scheme for babies so anyone can do it.

I like the game just fine, but I was forged by MvC to be conditioned to "get" tag games. The average DBZ fan prefers budokai because they care more about big casts, environmental damage, and pressing every button than they care about playing neutral, building teams, and playing guessing games on wake up.

Seriously, it seems that only Yea Forums actually sees SonicFox in any negative light. Even on NPR they were glorifying the guy even after going "OwO I'm gay!'

>public figures have to support the gay black man no matter what he does or be branded racist and homophobic
>anonymous people are free to call him out like the furry faggot autist he is

My point being that he doesn't seem to be a turn off because of him.

time

Women obviously

It seemed like a good fighter made by competent devs with great visuals.

The game ended up being gutted by the publisher
Also
>stupid hub world that you have to load up before doing anything
>no traditional menu
>DLC out the ass
>broken DLC
The stupid fucking menu system and all the loading screens really turned me off from this game. A simple opening cutscene, press start and all your options should be in front of you. Why the fuck cant these companies make a simple menu system? I hope someone mods this game to be playable

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