Is Bowser a rapist?
Is Bowser a rapist?
Yes
Yes of course did you even play the games?
He's a man, so that's automatically the case.
No one fucks in Mario
Of course, and that is a good thing
This. Storks deliver the babies.
And Mario is a creepy "nice guy"
Man, I know we already had Super Paper Mario and that one comic book, but this is the first we see Bowser being actually extremely abusive to the point of force marriage in a actual main Mario game. In the wedding, she was practically constantly saying no and Bowser just pushing that ring over and over. This game was weird as shit, but only because it actually brought the worst out of Bowser and even Mario, to the point of Peach being fed up. You're just there really wondering if Nintendo even wants any of them together or if they have anything else planned for the series to end this vicious cycle or if they even give a shit.
But meh, repeat ad-nauseam, as if this shit wedding never happened at all either. It threw Mario and Peach shippers off as well, which may have been for better or for worse.
Can't rape the willing.
Peach wants it bad.
Yeah it was really weird thematically. I expected it to be a standard "Mario saves Peach, gets a kiss and the game ends". Instead Mario makes such an ass of himself trying to one up Bowser that she tells both to fuck off and steals Mario's ship, attempting to strand both of them on the moon. I really don't know where they're going with it at this point. If they're just going to continue ad-nauseam, why end the game on a weird note of rejection?
They're going for the luigi ending
He wants her to be a mother figure to his adopted kids. Fucking her wasn't really what he intended.
hes a rapist incel just like most nintendo fans
yes he raped me
Details please.
Marriage would change the status quo too much. It makes sense that she rejected both of them.
Yeah it rubbed me the wrong way. Mario wouldn't be such an insecure faggot to think Peach would marry Bowser because he (technically Mario) saved them, even though Bowser kidnapped and planned to force her into marriage before.
Anyone else find it ironic that Peach's role as a damsel in distress, is treated as objectification. However, when it comes to real life examples of abuses of power(R-Kelly, Harvey Weinstein, and Bill Cosby) men get blamed for not doing more.
It makes sense she rejected Mario, it doesn't make sense that Mario becomes so thirsty and jealous out of nowhere.
No, but the story director who keeps writing Peach as a damsel in distress is a rapist
They just wanted to end the game with wacky cartoon antics. So they heighted up the emotion of the moment for everyone.
it's just a very boring played out trope
He saw the opportunity to propose to her.
I wish he would rape me
He doesn't get sex, so how can he be a rapist?
He just wants Bowser Jr. to have a mom, right?
He'd probably be down to fuck Peach, but I don't think that's his main goal.
He's wearing a hat like Micheal Jackson so certainly is.
>manlet mario
Examples? I'm not sure I follow.
He wants to destabilize and take over the mushroom kingdom. Dude's a sorcerer he could just make a mom if he wanted to
>He just wants Bowser Jr. to have a mom, right?
Bowser is already a great parent, he doesn't need somebody else
I've forgotten the particulars. So pulling up exact examples is hard. But the whole #metoo thing stirred up a dialogue condemning men's inaction or indifference toward other men. That men need to check other men. And how men can do better. It's basically the attitude that spurred Gillette to make that controversial ad.
Not that theres antything wrong with that, but several games have showed that she has powers and is a capable fighter, so she should be shown as more than just a damsel in distress, coincidently, those games are the rpg ones, so maybe those dont count as "canon", whatever that may mean, I feel like M&L and SMRPG and normal Mario games are in different universes.
>Dude's a sorcerer he could just make a mom if he wanted to
Kamek is the wizard. Bowser is simply the king
He used to be then. I think before Kamek bowser was the one doing the magic, old bowser.
>#metoo
Yea Forums is that way
Yea Forums for videogames
>think before Kamek bowser was the one doing the magic
OG Marios manual had King Koopa turn the Toads into blocks
That sounds like a bullet point in the conversation surrounding the movement, not that focus of it. It's weird that you fixate on this when it's such a small part of a larger conversation.
>ywn get mate pressed by bowser as his fat nuts slap against your ass
kek
gays can't be rapists, that's homophobic
>Marriage would change the status quo too much.
I mean didnt Spongebob and Sandy get married?
>gays can't be rapists
gays reproduce through rape you moron
No, but bowsette is
Memes aside no.
Bowser is "evil" but his evilness is more of a role he enjoys then pure malice and still has a sense of morality with stuff like his genuine love of Bowser Jr. and the Koopalings. Miyamoto himself has even stated before he isn't THAT evil and doesn't want Mario and Luigi dead despite how much he hates them.
Ridley, Ganondorf hell even King K. Rool are more likely to commit rape then him.
I don't know... Looks like /pol/ to me. When you start a thread discussing rape, things get fuzzy, don't they?
The movement only gave new momentum to what was referred to as rape culture. A subset of toxic masculinity. This is why they thread about rape, made me think of this. It's starting to come back to me now. But basically, Anita Sarkeesian covers rape culture. She also covers the damsel in distress trope. And I'm pointing out the hypocrisy, because OP married the two concepts together.
I'm curious though, can you see the hypocrisy? I don't want to get into a big discussion about it. I just want to know if you can see what I mean or not. Pretty crazy, right?
well said
>Looks like /pol/ to me.
Then leave because this is Yea Forums
I'm sorry, if you didn't want to talk about rape, then you shouldn't have made your topic about rape.
No
I'm not seeing the hypocrisy. Men being smart enough and decent enough people not to rape, men teaching men not to rape, and bad individuals are separate conversations. You're stretching implications of conversations and articles you can't specify because Anita, who in her damsel's video states "playing video games won't turn you into a misogynist", said something tangential to the topic. I'm not seeing the hypocrisy or even the connection to objectification.
So he's pre-King Dedede then?
>Ridley, Ganondorf hell even King K. Rool are more likely to commit rape then him.
I don't know where you got that "not so evil" from, but not wanting Mario or Luigi dead doesn't make him less likely of "raping" if you will or downright violating Princess Peach's will, which seems to be a constant in the games and awfully played out seriously despite him being "not so evil". I won't even deny his love and possible strictness towards his son, but that doesn't exactly excuse his behavior either, as well as his "competitiveness" doesn't excuse any trouble that he may cause for the brothers.
ive never gone this flaccid so fast in my life
Sorry to hear that user. Should go see a doctor about that.
God I wish this was Bowser.
Shame you never really see Bowser interact with Bowser Jr. in this game much besides just the cellphone. I also would have killed to see his reaction towards the Rabbids or better yet, the ghost opera one that was also after Peach.
>Men being smart enough and decent enough people not to rape, men teaching men not to rape, and bad individuals are separate conversations.
They're literally not, when it comes to the discussion of rape culture. The idea behind it, is that if the concept of rape is trivialized, then it makes it easier to tacitly condone, if not explicitly condone. According to them, If them don't "do better", then it creates more monsters. It also creates the culture where men like harvey Weinstein are able to get away with what they do. According to them, simply not raping, isn't enough. You have to create a dialogue that actively condones rape. So that other men(the bad individuals) can't get away with it.
>You're stretching implications of conversations and articles you can't specify
I am not, I'm recalling old information that I stored somewhere in the archives of my brain.
>Anita, who in her damsel's video states "playing video games won't turn you into a misogynist"
She says this. However, she also says that media informs viewers of cultural norms. And that if you normalize a bad idea, then it becomes internalized. And that's where the idea of internalized misogyny comes from. She doesn't blame media in whole, however she does explain a system that media takes a part in. Essentially seeding and/or reinforcing notions.
So the reason I compare this to objectification, is because the whole damsel in distress trope, is something that seeds the notion that women need to be protected by men in powerful positions. Such as a Bowser or a Bill Cosby. She would rather see that part of culture stop being normalized, for the sake of dismantling "objectification". But that seems antithetical to the whole anti-rapeculture stuff.
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I'm not saying he isn't evil but he isn't reprehensible. To him evilness is more of a pissing contest to show off how better he is then everyone.
He's a bad guy but there's a reason why he still teams up with Mario, Luigi and Peach from time to time and they don't have a particularly deep loathing of him.
So what you're saying is, pussy is consequence free.
It's pretty convoluted and at best falls in line with the normal bullshit we're rational enough to navigate when we're not trying to make a specific point against something like "if killing is so bad, why are you executing that murderer?" and "isn't it funny that you're writing a critique of your government on a macbook when it's the current system that made the macbook possible?".
>I am not, I'm recalling old information that I stored somewhere in the archives of my brain.
Information you can't specify. Without a direct quote to go off of, I need to imagine someone saying "damsels in video games are bad because they objectify women and also men shouldn't rape and shouldn't stand for rape" and then be asked to find the hypocrisy in this. I guess it's kind of funny if you think it's just "don't objectify us as helpless things, also we're helpless please don't rape us" but that implies that the only way to save women from rape is for men not to rape. Like for you not to see this as hypocrisy, the movement would have to advocate carrying rape knives at all times. Rape knives they can stab all the Cosbys of the world in their sleep after they've been roofied. I don't know, there isn't irony in what you're saying, there's just absurdity of you saying it and me trying to connect these dots.
>He's a bad guy but there's a reason why he still teams up with Mario, Luigi and Peach from time to time and they don't have a particularly deep loathing of him
Because Mario, Luigi and Peach don't really have that much strength to loathe someone, even if they cause that much trouble. It's not in them to hate. They can be serious, preoccupied even, but not to the point of loathing someone. If they could befriend everyone, they would, simply saying. And that in turn allows Bowser who, while he is a menace to the kingdom and the princess itself (if he is ever allowed such power), to calm down and some times, some times helping them and even then, he has some sort of motive (like wanting to still kidnap the princess because you can't do that if someone takes over instead) behind it. They give him leash and some times, he is a pup. If he were dealt with anyone else that didn't have Mario and friends' morale or someone more harsher, he'd reply with that in return.
>It's pretty convoluted
Because it's all based on the convoluted rationale of feminists like Anita.
>"isn't it funny that you're writing a critique of your government on a macbook when it's the current system that made the macbook possible?"
kiiiinda similar to that. Except I can point to a single person who made these contradictory points. I'm not blaming one person for the actions of another person. I'm saying, that this one person said this, and then they said that, and both of these ideas conflict.
> Without a direct quote to go off of, I need to imagine someone saying "damsels in video games are bad because they objectify women and also men shouldn't rape and shouldn't stand for rape"
What? No. You can use your hopefully functional brain, in order to extrapolate proper meaning. I get it's harder to do without exact quotes. But just because you don't have the information readily available, that doesn't make what I'm saying impossible to grasp. If you assumed that everything I said was correct, then you might find what I say agreeable. But I understand if you want to remain skeptical, and not make a judgement based on such loose information. I'm just saying that you should at least have the capacity to grasps my meaning.
To be completely honest, it sounds like you do kind of get what I'm saying, but you disagree with me, so you won't even entertain the idea on an abstract level. So whatever, man.
No, fuck your feminazi metaphors and edgy "adult" interpretations of children's games.
That fits Bowser more than Mario. Mario is a hero, he has other choices of pussy to save and slay. Bowser is a big softie at heart but relies on power to get his way.
>To be completely honest, it sounds like you do kind of get what I'm saying, but you disagree with me, so you won't even entertain the idea on an abstract level. So whatever, man.
I think I get it, but I just wanted to be sure. What made me sure was this:
>Because it's all based on the convoluted rationale of feminists like Anita.
All I have to go off of is your understanding or misunderstanding. If I'm more familiar with what you're not getting and with what you're assuming is being said in the statements and articles you can't specifically cite, we're all just relying on feelings and impressions, nothing concrete to reflect on. To which I can say that I can see the irony, but not the hypocrisy.
There may be some hypocrisy if it were said "I don't need men to do anything for me" and then telling a man "I need you to stop raping me" but it would still be closer to irony and taking the time to point this out is just absurd as the implications and intentions given the context of both statements are vastly different.
Daddy Bowser took over Nintendo now that Reggie is gone. I like it.
How often do Bowser and Peach fuck?
Never since Bowser isn't interested in sex with her, he just wants to give his kids a mom.