THANK YOU BASED NVIDIA

i still have a regular 1070, when should I upgrade?

Not any time soon unless you need to play the latest shit at meme MAX settings which are barley different from high and are made to strain your hardware giving barley any visual improvement

When the next generation comes. So far there's no reason to upgrade.

>$200 for 6GB VRAM in 2019
>When the 480 had 8GB in 2016 for $200

Nvidia are massive jews
That extra 2GB does matter these days too, quite a few games eat up VRAM

Most likely never, they'll find a way to keep the 1070-tier cards price high and miners will screw up the market again.

>jews

In 2020, exactly 4 years after 2016's 1070 launch

You'll get 7nm GPU and superior Nvidia performance and power efficiency

Not anytime soon, and definitely not to a 1660ti.
Upgrade whenever the games you like no longer run at a FPS/resolution/quality you're happy with.
I don't get this mindset of having to upgrade every gen, if you buy a high~midrange card in one gen it will usually last you the next two gens

DO NOT REPLY TO AUTOMATED SHILLBOTS

Still waiting for the new 1050ti equivalent

GTX 1650 in April

75W performance king

>1 year after the $700 780 Ti, Nvidia release the superior 970 for $300
>2 years after the $700 1080 Ti, Nvidia release a $300 1660 Ti, with half the ram & vastly worse performance

Based stagnation & overpricing

>spending more money gets you something better

holy fucking shit

I don't think he's disputing that user, he's saying it's not a good value buy.

Just get a 2080

>worse 1080 Ti with less VRAM, for a higher cost

how powerful will the 1650 be? Will be it on the 1060 level?

>Because GTX 1660 is much faster than a 580 as you'll see on March 14 when the reviews hit the Internet

Yes a brand new card coming out soon is much better than a card that's over a year old. I'm sure you're right but it's not something to brag about.

>the 6gb 1060 I got 2 years ago is still chugging along fine
Great deal desu

No idea yet, still waiting for more substantial leaks for that GPU

fpbp, the cheapest GPUs are always the worst performance per dollar followed by the most expensive ones

I'm running a really old 780Ti and so far the games I play at the moment is running pretty well, but I'm thinking of upgrading my entire rig for something like cyberpunk 2077 maybe I dunno, kinda disappointed in performance and pricing so far from all sides, hoping next release of gpu's are good.

wake me up when we get GTX 1060 level performance for only $100

>the 4gb 1050TI I got 3 years ago is still chugging along fine
Great deal desu

Still can't get why the name is 1660 and not 1160

>AYYMDPOORFAGS ARE THIS DELUSIONAL

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nvidia for gpus, amd for cpus

you cannot argue with it

Just get a 2080ti

yes goy pay 1000 dollars for our card

This, these new GPU's are horribly overpriced and underpowered than they should be.

10 series was the last good GPU's, price/performance wise. If you're that desperate for an upgrade buy a used one and sell it again when something more reasonable is released in a year or two.

Slightly unrelated but I bought a 1080ti recently, will I have to worry I wasted my money with RTX cards being the next big thing?

Problem with buying used is mining, making getting a pre owned 1080 a worry, it's just a bad time to buy a high end GPU in general
No, RTX is a scam

>buy a 1660 goy, it gets you the same performance of a 1070! (a 3 year old card that still performs great and sell for cheaper!)
I don't follow, jew-sama

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3000s or Navi. The 2000s series was to replace people running 900s but we got fucked over good and proper by shitvidia. 2x the price and meme tech cancer.
I seriously hope 3000s series can bring back some sanity.

buy low end 1080ti with meme tech goy!

The amount of vram does not matter like you think it does.

most of the time the worst thing that happens to mining gpu's are that the fans go bad because the mechanical bearings inside lose lubrication. the electrical components though should be fine and last a fucking long time.

same man.

depends on the work load and game. 6gb is enough to run most current games at best textures but even shit games like BFV will have you drop texture quality since 6gb is not enough.
In 1 - 2 years 8gb is going to be minimum to run at high textures making the 2060 a shitty nearly already obsolete product.

>tfw my dumbass friend bought a 2060 because it can raytrace
Can't wait to see him cry about vram issues next year.

2060 only having 6GB's is a fucking joke for it's price

You should really ignore "high textures". It doesn't provide any advantage and lower level textures will look exactly the same.

how much better is the 1660 compared to the 970?

20% better performance?

Can you even use raytracing for old 3D games?
I'd love to play old shit with raytracing

>You should really ignore "high textures"
no I really should not. I create textures myself for games and while it is true that in some games the "ultra" present is nothing but uncompressed shit running textures on anything but the best quality is the LARGEST loss of graphical fidelity in any games.
Might as well just disable shadows.
>It doesn't provide any advantage
who gives a shit in multiplayer
>lower level textures will look exactly the same
no they dont except in shitty ass low effort games.

the 1660ti is about 30% faster and the 1660 I would think something close to 10-15%.
If you got a 970 there is absolutely no point in buying the 1660. The 1660ti perhaps but really those are low end cards while the 970 is med-high.

I have RTX 2060 with i9-9900K. Am I fucking retarded for doing this?

>It doesn't provide any advantage
?
>Lower level textures will look exactly the same
?????????????

youtube.com/watch?v=IS-L4DCynk0&t=1069

Same. It's about all my old CPU can handle anyway. I'll need to build an entirely new rig in a couple years.

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>I bought a 1080ti recently
Got one myself about a month ago. I will probably skip RTX gen and the next one.

I still use my GTX 660. The only way I'm gonna upgrade is if it dies.

short answer is No.
Longer one is that it is indeed possible to change the render of any game to use DXR but depending on the game it would require massive amounts of work. Do not expect to see any RT in old games except where nerdy modders put their efforts (Quake 2 for instance).
>I'd love to play old shit with raytracing
they would look like shit without reworking basically everything in the game to fit.
no I would just say you bought a gfx card and cpu one of the worst time I can even remember. But if you needed a new PC then you needed a new PC. I only thing people are retarded if they got a somewhat decent PC and then buy now.
however that 9900k is complete overkill for a low-med tier card as the 2060. Not that it is a problem because you can then upgrade the gfx later without having to change anything else.

If you play games then yes. You must put more of your money in gpu not cpu.

>1660ti will cost like 300€+ in europe based on previous american price listings
>2060 is literally being sold for 320€

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What's the best card for Division 2? I need something for 1440p.

>1080 champ
the fact that we are still stuck on this low resolution is goddamn sad. I ran 2560×1920 HF2 and DOOM 3 before the flat screen LCD cancer killed resolutions. Now over decade people are happy a card is the "Champ of 1080p".... fuck this shit and fuck AMD for being so pathetic that Nvidia can get away with this crap.

2060 obviously
Same price/perf as 1660/ti

Europe is not a country and the prices are vastly different across the continent. Where I am a 2060 cost about 440-480€.
while the 1660ti goes for around 310-340€.
These prices are insane as I bought a 970GTX for 350€ around 3 years ago.

>Yes a brand new card coming out soon is much better than a card that's over a year old.
Literally something AMD has never done.

>vega comes a year after high end Pascal
>not even better at all and is mostly slower

same guy shilling everyday

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no
the 2070 can barely keep the 60fps high on 1440p. The 2060 would struggle more but if you are prepare to run med-high 60fps on 1440p then the 2060 would be ok.
Same its super expensive because of the meme tech that is of little to no use.

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Charging different prices online for foreign european countries literally became illegal and here in germany you can easily get a 2060 for 330-340 easily, while i saw it last week for as low as 320.

what kind of crack are you smoking

>RTX cards being the next big thing
>RTX
>big thing
what?

what are you smoking nvidia shill? Stop trying to make the 2060 look better than it is. Its worse than the 2070 and that struggles at 1440p ultra.
>literally became illegal
not where I am sitting here in Denmark. It might be illegal in Germany I dont know.
Also its not that I cant afford it I just think the prices are so damn bloated that I cant justify buying this expensive meme tier generation.

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yeah I fear this as well. Typical AMD to be honest but ill take anything to say fuck you to Nvidia right now. Even thought about buying that lame Radeon VII crap just because I cant fucking stand the 2000s series.
Fuck I wish Nvidia could go back to the glory days of the 7900ultra and the 8800GTX.

Literally in whole europe
eur-lex.europa.eu/content/news/geo-blocking-regulation-enters-into-force.html

If a german retailer offers a gpu for lower price to germans he also has to sell it to non germans for, i.e danish people, for the same price if they access the german site(even if forcefully through vpn or proxy).

Would a 6700k bottle neck a 2060 for 1080p 144hz?
bait pic btw :')

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>Charging different prices online for foreign european countries literally became illegal
just read up on the law and no it is not.
Its only illegal if I buy goods online without cross border delivery (such as traveling to Germany and buying a card in a store and then heading back home). If I do that the store in Germany cannot charge me more than he charges Germans.
however if I buy from the online store while I am in Denmark and want it delivered to Denmark then the store can charge whatever they feel like.

nvidia.com/en-us/gtc/

gputechconf2019.smarteventscloud.com/connect/sessionDetail.ww?SESSION_ID=263105

Can't wait for 7nm GPU microarchitecture announcement at GTC 2019, Volta's successor

anandtech.com/show/11367/nvidia-volta-unveiled-gv100-gpu-and-tesla-v100-accelerator-announced

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No.
Hell, the i7 2600K still compliments GTX 1070ti.

>4 cards tested

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>If a german retailer offers a gpu for lower price to germans he also has to sell it to non germans
In Germany. Not outside. He cant require me to pay more or less than you if we are both in the same shop PHYSICALLY or if I live in Germany and buy from an online German store.

so it's basically just about good enough to beat AMD but nothing more. What a bunch of jews

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depends on the game. Some games nearly any CPU would bottleneck the 2060.
however for most game then no.

sure just wanted to show how the the 2070 does not run Division 2 1440p particularly well.
youtube.com/watch?v=2I3SnAcZcFk
the 2060 cannot even run 1080p at 120 / 144.

As i said you can buy it for foreign prices online with any price gouging.

buying a 2070 for one game which performs worse than 90% of average is a terrible idea

2060 manages fine in 90% of titles maintaining 60fps+ in most if not all other titles

which means absolutely nothing and the law is there to make sure that as a tourist I do not get ripped off when traveling or living abroad.
So if I buy in Germany I have two choices: 1 travel to Germany and pick it up personally then it will be the same price as in Germany (except it would be much much more expensive taking in the traveling costs). Or 2 pay for import, VAT tax, Green tax and delivery which also would make it much more expensive than buy locally in Denmark.
So it really does nothing to help or change anything in my situation. I guess if I lived close to the border or something then it might be wroth looking into as it sounds like Germany has some really low prices.

he asked for 1440p Division 2. Not "hey I just want a new good card".
the 2060 is the better buy if you just compare the 2070 and 60 as the 70 is stupidly expensive for its performance. However the 2060 WILL NOT GET CONSTANT 60fps 1440p IN DIVISION 2. So he needs a better card or go 1080p or lower the gfx to med-high.
Really the 2060 is a med card and not made to run Ultra/high at 1440p.

imagine I have a 1070 and in some games I get cucked by a card named 1660

>Really the 2060 is a med card and not made to run Ultra/high at 1440p.

False

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that looks med to me. Just because a med card can compete with 3 year old last generation high cards does not make it a high end card.
For this generation and going forward the 2060 is a med range card.
the 2070 is a med-high and the 2080 is a high and the 2080ti is the ultra. The titan is just its own thing.
Just look at what you posted... its runs as well as the 1070ti which was a med-high card LAST generation. The 2060 will not be able to run future titles made in the 2000 series era at 60fps 1440p high - ultra....

i have no GPU(doing fine with Ryzen 3 2200G), what should i get to spend as little as possible still not cheaping out?

what do you want to play?

Would it be more beneficial for me to get an rtx 2080 ti? Or should I go with a second hand 1080ti?

I'm coming from an Rx 480.

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I have a 980 and I'm not planning on upgrading until either the next round of AMD/Nvidia cards come out, or 2020. Whichever comes first.

Just buy used. There's probably a 1060 8 gig you can cop on Craigslist.

>12% difference
>33% price difference
>future titles made in the 2000 series era at 60fps 1440p high - ultra....
youtu.be/auHQLCH7vQk?t=77

that's the "issue", i can already play what i want to.
i can run easily get 60fps in games that really need it, and can hit in 30fps(still playable to me, not going to start an argument, 60 is better) on more demanding ones.
I just got DMC5 and can easily go above 30fps(usually in the mid 40) 1080p mid setting, and can hit 60 in less demanding areas, and can hit 60fps in it if i turn down to 900p.
As of now i dont think i NEED a dedicated GPU, i just want one to get 60fps all the time all games without having to une down graphics too much, and to ease the stress overall on the system.

craiglist is not really an option where i live(EU), and the used market is either refurbished cards at 80-90% of the full price, or idiots who only sell at full price because "as new, barely used"

>12% difference
yes? that is how it normally went. Still dont get why you want what is clearly marketed by Nvidia and everyone else a a medium range card to somehow be considered an enthusiast high end. It runs a measly 6GB VRAM for christ sake. There is nothing about it that says high end at all and the fact that the 2000 series in general are so bad that the difference between the 60-70-80 is so small does not change anything.
Also why that video? The 1080GTX was announced in March 2014 and released May 27, 2016. We are in March 2019 now.... So a med range card is the same as an old generations high end card. Wow that is something we havent seen since every generation.
the 1080GTX is not a high end card anymore. Its old but still performs as a med range card.

well ok but keep in mind that the 2200g is not super powerful so buying a high end GFX card will only make it bottleneck.
For such a setup I would properly get a RX 580 or 1660ti (if you can get it cheap). The 2060 and up seems overkill compared to your CPU.
That said I love the 2200g. Sweet little package.

>1080 Ti is a 2 year old card
>The new $700 Vega 7 with HBM2 can't beat it

Fucking LOL
Yet people think Navi with GDDR5 is going to be 1080 Ti level for 250 bucks

Is Nvidia going to kill themselves?

Shadows are another good example, thanks. Shadows on ultra are just high or even medium.

no? they are at the top of their game right now. No competition at all (which shows in the meme tech and high prices).

should I upgrade my 970 to a 1660, 2070, or some amd card? I've been an nvidia fag for a while so I don't know much about amd

Sit out this round. Even if you have to drop games to high.

well I am in the same boat as you. Should upgrade to the 2070 but the prices where I am are too high and the 2060 is too little of an improvement in my view.
I would say; hold out 6 months and see if they prices drop or bite the bullet and upgrade as the 970 is getting real old.

This is the true masterrace here. Modern games and emulators love Ryzen and Nvidia.

they literally hold a monopoly on the gpu market. it's impossible for them to die unless amd pulls a ryzen comeback for their gpus.

>Still sitting on a 760
>Only play older games so don't feel the need to upgrade

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the RTX 2080ti has better performance than a 1080 ti...

>MSI gpus
Enjoy your VRM issues.

Had a rx480 that started showing VRM issues after 1 year of use, never overclocked it, always used it with a quality PSU.

Got an asus 1070ti and that shit is still going strong.

I've got a 770 and feel the same way. Only game I'd be interested in upgrading for would be Bannerlord.

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>with twice the performance
The fuck are you talking about. On average it's 16% faster.

you are factually incorrect. How can you be this fucking stupid?

inb4
>merely pretending

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1080ti are hard to come by now but are significant cheaper than 2080ti. About ½ the price.
However the 2080ti is vastly superior to the 1080ti but extremely expensive for a consumer level card.

nvidia.com/en-us/geforce/news/geforce-gives-you-the-edge-in-battle-royale/

wrong

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>1070
>cheaper than a 1660 ti
What weird ass country do you live in where this is true? In the US a new 1070 is ~$380-400

buy it used you fucking retarded amerifatski
>paying premium for old tech
mongoloid

>posts graph without the 1660 ti
Also, that's a really disingenuous graph. Most people run 60 fps monitors so they wont see the same value from buying a high end card. It's better to buy a mid-tier card and replace it more frequently since cards are only supported for a few years anyway.

>buying old, used, shitty hardware
>calls me mongoloid
have you tried not being poor? You third world fuck.

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>However the 2080ti is vastly superior to the 1080ti but extremely expensive for a consumer level card.
And Nvidia will drop support for it in less than 4 years, which means its performance will start tanking (so that people buy new cards).

What will be Nvidia's excuse to overprice video cards a couple years from now when even midrange cards should be able to perform at 60fps at 4k? They'll probably up the pricing tier again like the last couple years.

>DUR BUY IT USED BUT I STILL CAN COMPARE THE USED PRICE OF THE OLD CARD TO THE NEW PRICE OF THE NEW ONE

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The 1660 is not 16% slower than a 2060 dipshit.

their twinfrozr cooler gpus also had shoddy fan bearing quality. they work fine for like 2-3 years then they make bad noise or stop spinning unless you manually turn them with your finger to get them going.

They dont need an excuse.

I'm upgrading from an old 7970, I'm aiming for a 1070, what's an ice model and what price should i aim for?

post benchmarks then you stupid fuck

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yeah it's actually at low less than 16% slower

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it's fps per dollar, retard, I'm not saying you should buy the highest end because it would be about the same fps/$ as the cheaper cards

mid-range xx70 is always the best price per dollar, it's not that hard to figure out user

when you go much cheaper or more expensive, you get diminishing returns

>And Nvidia will drop support for it in less than 4 years
4? make that 2 mate at most. They will stop giving a shit about it the next time the NEW ti king is out. That is why I always have bought med-high cards since the 7000s as then I can just switch cards every 3 or so years without breaking the bank.
Or so I thought but here comes the cancer that is the 2000s series. Fuck that RTX shit and fuck their 40% price increase.

Why would you buy a 1070 when the 1660 ti exists?

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>EU isn't dragging us dow...
AfD when.

>used 1070
>580
>wait a few weeks for 1680ti
>wait for Navi

lads what do

same performance for half the price

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>it's fps per dollar, retard,
When did I say that it wasn't you illiterate child.

>mid-range xx70 is always the best price per dollar, it's not that hard to figure out user
I agree with you

>when you go much cheaper or more expensive, you get diminishing returns
Yep

>below a 1080
Am I ever going to need another upgrade bros? Between this and my 3770 still kicking along I dont feel the need to upgrade. At this point my only reason to upgrade a major component would be because I want ddr4 ram or one of those neat pci ssds

>lads what do
keep waiting

>same performance for half the price
And the risk of it being fucked up because it's used. Also, half the remaining driver support lifespan. But hey, you do you.

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>AMD memed me into buying a Vega 64
>The drivers are shit and it's super loud
>Had to upgrade to a higher voltage psu
>Display still cuts off from time to time
What should I get that isn't AMD?

Yes the 1660 ti is below a 1080. Why did you feel the need to point this out as though it's some kind of failure? And yes you will need a new card when nvidia stops supporting pascal which will be in a year or so.

>implying graphics cards can get "fucked up" through normal use

If you think 350 is expensive for a graphics card, you shouldn't even bother with PC and just stick to your consoleshit.

>implying you know how a card that you buy from a complete stranger was used

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nvidia is still releasing driver updates for the gtx 6xx series after it came out in 2012

Some cards that ran hot really didn't have many years of usable life at 100% GPU. Maybe it is better these days.

No they aren't. They don't support anything from before the 10xx series, and in fact the newer drivers can even brick older cards.

>implying there's more than one way to use a graphics card

at most the fan bearings go bad because the lube dries out but that's a very easy fix that takes 5 minutes.

electrical components will last for a long fucking time

why would you want DDR4 ram if you game? Also MVMe for gaming is again completely overrated. A sata SSD will do you just fine and you will gain minor if anything from upgrading to an NVMe. And yes I have tested as I have multiple raids of SSDs running and for gaming I cant tell you if I run on some old samsung EVO sata SSD or a new Intel NVMe. For workloads its different.
Same goes for ram. You really dont need that fast system ram for gaming.

>buying this when the 2060 and 1070 Ti exist
>Buying this when Navi and Intel GPUs are on the horizon

Loving every laugh

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I have an R9 390, what's my next step up?

>fpbp, the cheapest GPUs are always the worst performance per dollar followed by the most expensive ones
>you are factually incorrect. How can you be this fucking stupid?
Okay.

kek my 8800Ultra melted and died running stock in cold room back in the day. Its better now ofc and cards dont just die anymore.

Yes, Nvidia pretends to support older cards but actually doesn't. Where the fuck have you been?

>When did I say that it wasn't you illiterate child.
because you're trying to equate it to 60 fps somehow when that has nothing to do with it

>t-they're just pretending!
grasping straws

the most expensive ones have more diminishing returns for people who dont go over 60 fps, which is most people. The only way the top tier cards have more performance per dollar is if you run 60+ fps, in which case you would be correct. Otherwise (90% of the time) the low end cards have better fps/dollar value. I'm glad I could educate you.

they just allow old cards to use newer drivers but they do not test run or make the drivers for them. I dont remember what driver it was but I can run a legacy driver on my old 970 and get a 10% performance increase. Not because Nvidia have destroyed the performance on purpose just because of neglect. You cant expect Nvidia to care about old as fuck cards.
The 1000 and 2000 series are the only "supported" series.

which 1660 ti model is the best?

how does your fps cap not affect fps/dollar value? If you measure each frame into the 100's, it distorts the dollar/fps value for people who dont have high refresh rate monitors. This is really easy to understand so I'm not sure why you're not getting it.

>not having at least 144Hz by now
pleb, and fps per dollar scales, run it at higher settings if you're fixed at 60

I seriously don't know how you could have missed the witcher 3 scandal where the 960 was beating a gtx 780, and when people rolled back their drivers they got better frames on the 700 series. It was so bad that nvidia had to own up to their planned obsolescence by actually supporting the 700 series for that game.

Because FPS per dollar is better performance across the board, user. It's like saying you can buy a cheap car and get shit gas mileage or a mid-range one with much better MPG.

>1060 41 fps
>2060 61 fps
That's 33% faster dipshit.

what are you on about? I think you replied to the wrong user.
>144Hz
why would I get that when I have a 970.... well I guess I could use the 144 in CS:GO or some other old shit.

>1660 ti
This was about the 1660, Not the fucking Ti, learn to fucking read. >buying a 1660
>buying a 1660
>buying a 1660
>buying a 1660
Do you see the letters Ti in there?

>Because FPS per dollar is better performance across the board, user.
Only if you have a high refresh rate monitor. If I have a 60 fps monitor and can max a game and get 60 frames, I'm not seeing any value from the frames past that. Once again this is basic shit.

>1060
Good thing we were talking about the 1660 ti before you had a stroke.

That wrong though. Run it with better graphical settings. Even if you ONLY care about lowest settings and 60 fps, it would still make more sense to optimize for FPS per dollar since newer games are more demanding.

what card should i get for 144 fps at 1080p?

would a 1660 be good enough

>That wrong though. Run it with better graphical settings.
I literally said if I'm maxing it out.

Oh my bad, I didn't even know the 1660 exists. Does it exist or are you memeing? I can't find it.

also i should mention i dont mind lowering settings a little

>This was about a card that isn't even available yet
Yeah that makes you even more retarded honestly.

I saw some benchmarks of modern games of the 1660 Ti and at max settings with TAA it did around 70 at the lowest and 120 highest, except for in Wildlands which did about 52 lowest and 61 highest, can't say for the standard 1660.

yes the 1660 ti* will be fine as long as you aren't planning on maxing every single setting. Also it heavily depends on your CPU once you get into higher fps.

ITT:
>people bitching and complaining about a card that isn't released
>pretending to know the performance without any solid benchmarks
fucking pottery

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No you weren't as the original poster spoke about the 1660, not the ti.

the 1660 isn't out yet. There is no point in posting about it. Also, the 1060 isn't the 1660.

>does it exist
Literally OP's topic and link. How dense can you be to not get the topic of your reply right, but to not even know what the fucking thread is about.

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>How dense can you be to not get the topic of your reply right
Dense enough to post in a shit thread bitching about a card with no meaningful metrics.

>That wrong though. Run it with better graphical settings.
I literally said if I'm maxing it out. How can I raise the settings beyond maximum to get more value out of fps. Also, you're conflating absolute fps/dollar value with visual quality gain. They aren't in any way the same thing. It's not a linear relationship.

DSR, retard, and no I'm not, it's strictly quantitative, if "FPS" is confusing you, change it to "performance" per dollar instead if you still don't understand

doesn't DSR kill your performance though? If I'm maxing a games settings and getting 60 fps, how is tanking the fps for a slight visual upgrade providing value? You're grasping at straws, but I do agree with your original assertion provided one has a high refresh monitor, so I'm not actually calling you stupid. Except in the case of 90% of people who just want a PC to play games on. In that case you're dumb as fuck because low tier cards have insane $/performance.

that's wrong though, again, the cheapest and most expensive cards will always be the worst performance per dollar, look it up

did you not read the fucking specs before you bought?
I was about to buy it too until I saw its fucking recommended watt % and realized it demanded like 750watt PSU in builds just to work.

honestly you shouldnt even be getting AMD vid cards. wait for nvidia to barf out something else midway through the year or wait until end of year sales where vega 64 would have been like 300$. Hell though if you wait till end of you you can prob pick up a 2080 for like 700$ maybe which would keep you topped off for the next 4 years or so

>thank you for a shitty weak rehashed card with stagnant pricing
ok

Where do you even get reliable used graphics cards?

Because it's assuming that you bought a card with good fps per dollar in the first place, and had the extra headroom available. The other comparison would be if a new game comes out that's more demanding, etc.

>doesn't DSR kill your performance though?
Performance is the same as if you play with higher resolution.

Again, you're getting hung up on "FPS". It could be anything per dollar. Passmark score per $, 3DMark score per dollar, etc.

>2019
>not getting a rtx titan sli with vlink or a 2080ti sli

Just buy a console you budget tier plebs cant join the MASTER RACE

Why does it stop at Radeon VII?

I'm legitimately interested in the 1660 but why the fuck isn't it 8 gigs?
It looks like only a slightly upgraded 1060 to me

>It looks like only a slightly upgraded 1060 to me
Just like the 1660 ti is a slightly upgraded 1070 and the 2060 is an slightly upgraded 1070 ti.

nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4779

my r9 280x died after 5 years, so I guess I should buy a new card.

1920x1080 at 60fps because I'm poor. Would a 1060 fit the bill?

should i just wait for the 1770

I can't believe those fuckers are hiding the GDDR6 behind the ti
What a bunch of scumbags, seriously I don't like AMD grafics cards at all but why does Nvidia has to be so fully evil?

> the cheapest and most expensive cards will always be the worst performance per dollar, look it up
I dont disagree with this though. I only disagree that the most expensive cards have more performance/$ value than the cheap ones. It's the other way around for most people who have a 60 fps monitor and dont care as much about graphics. That's literally all I'm saying.

ranked performance/3Dmark score/etc per dollar

IF 60 fps monitor = mid tier > low tier > high tier
IF 60+ fps monitor = mid tier > high tier > low tier

I stopped caring about PC specs after I bought a GTX 970. How do these new cards compare to that one?

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1060 is an extremely bad buy right now, don't buy it under any circumstance. Just get the 1660.

the 1660 ti is a pretty big upgrade to the 970.

For 1080p 60fps either go for a 1080ti in the longterm or a 1660/ti for the shortterm
Or go back to 720p

Less than half of that here.

2060 is the best price/performance.

1070 is 20-30 more fps than 970
2070 is about double the fps

>1080ti in the longterm

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dirt eater from third world country here, a 1080ti is three months of my salary.

Lol this. I'm planning on buying a RTX 3080 when it comes out and I feel like it's a compromise over a Ti.

>60fps while pcmrr its 240fps or nothing
Try to keep up gramps

dont get a 1080, or anything from the 10 series unless you can get it dirt cheap used. Get a 1660 ti or 1660.

Are you me?
I upgraded around christmas everything except GPU which is the GTX970, and lately i´ve been wondering is there really any reason to get a new GPU one at this point. I mean, im still of that generation that thinks if it runs Crysis its fine, have the graphics really gone up that much?
Well, on Metro Exodus I didnt put everything at full and yet I managed to get a solid experience in my opinion.

Get a better job them, dont eat dirst it meses with your brain dumb retard

are you capped at 60 fps?

I will try.

A 1060 is only worth if you can find it supercheap.
I found a deal here for 140 euros so I'm gonna buy it

i7-2600K fag here as well, when are you going to upgrade?

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I have a 1060, should i upgrade soon?

>buying mining warrantiless cards
>buying sub budget cards

>being excited about the god-awful progression of GPU performance Nvidia's been dolling out the last year
good goys. If you have a 9 or 10 series card you're fine

Not an argument. Also I have a 2080 and a 240hz monitor because I'm not poor.

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Not him but whats wrong with that? You can play a big chunk of the games in 4k60, and all of them with 1440 with high framerate. So it will be enough at least for 3-4 years for 1080/60

Hey man, I dont buy used shit. I was just suggesting it to the dirt eater so he doesn't starve to death.

>this i have a i9 9900x x299 build with 128gb drr4 and a gtx 1030 no need to upgrade

I never understood why the 2500k was considered a legendary CPU. 2600k has hyperthreading and won't throttle the same way.

I have no fucking idea. Last time I was interested in FPS was when people used Fraps to measure it. Im pretty sure im not reaching 60 most of the time but to be honest, I really dont give a fuck, as long as its not something like 20fps.

Buy used one, i get one for 350$ with warranty.

>So it will be enough at least for 3-4 years for 1080/60
Nah. Nvidia isn't going to support the 10 series for that long.

>not having 2080ti sli or at least a rtx titan
>not having a 240hz gsync ips 4k hdr monitor
Kek poorfag pleb

Ok but is your monitor capable of higher than 60 fps?

No clue, I was being memed on back in 2011 when I bought the i7-2600K but the thing's been a beast the whole time and it still holds up for most things.

I would wait 1 year. A lot will change then.

I laughed

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>Imagine starving for 3 months just to play videogames
And them you kind said that videogames isnt a mental health disease

Fuck off retard, Nvidia supports GPUs for 8 years, Pascal will be supported from 2016 until 2024

anandtech.com/show/12624/nvidia-moves-fermi-to-legacy-ends-32bit-os-support

There was no need for HT at that time, and 2500k was cheaper, so that's it.

user, if he doesnt know what his shit is capable of, he doesnt have a >60hz monitor. common sense here.

>he doesn't know

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It isnt but most poorfags cant upgrade their budget pcs thats why they form a /r/room like the PCMR

You can use older drivers, and most of the time you will loose 1-5% of performance, that's it.

Well, some games need hyperthreading now, so that means the 2600k was the superior CPU all along and won't get take huge min fps hits.

>9 drivers where called legacy 6months after the 10series arrive
Kek

>sli
Sli is dead

Haha hell no it isnt, Dell U2412M as a main, secondary is some Acer shit I got from Ex.
I´ll just stay ignorant of the better monitors for now.

>thats what a pleb would said

Nvidia drivers support cards going back like 11 generations, dumbfuck.

the 970 should be fine for a bit as long as you aren't trying to max shit out. You will probably want to upgrade in a year or so though.

>gaming on a ultrasharp series
>usign multidisplays
Kek

except that isnt how it works at all? the 9 uses the same driver architecture as the 10 series...there arent individual drivers for each series...

oh look its the confused AMD fans not realizing that AMD is actually the company that ends driver support after 3-4 years while nvidia cards are more or less permanently supported :)

no they don't. stop falling for the memes. Hell the source that guy linked even says they dont support cards more than 8 years, which is also not true. Typically it's less than 5 years since the 600 series. I swear you fuckers need to stop thinking that just because they feed you a driver that they are actually optimizing the driver for your card. They aren't. This has been seen numerous times over the last few years.

>os support not gaming support
Dumbfuck

>nvidia cards are more or less permanently supported :)
anandtech.com/show/12624/nvidia-moves-fermi-to-legacy-ends-32bit-os-support
:^)

>some games need hyperthreading now
Now? Definitely. I wouldn't even say some, if you have 4 core you need HT for every game.

support doesnt mean per-game optimizations and never did, if youre arguing about that youre arguing about that

older generation cards still take advantage of gross improvements in the driver architecture regardless of optimizations

Last AAA game I bought was Skyrim and BF3 and then old school runescape from 2015. I could probably have been fine to this day with my old GTX 660 TI

I had 780 sli from 2013 till the end of 2018 and believe me i know what i'm talking about.

>if you have 4 core you need HT for every game.
This. Especially if you want 60+ fps.

Nvidia supports GPUs way longer than AYYMD

AYYMD abandons you as quickly as they can

anandtech.com/show/5775/amd-hd-2000-hd-3000-hd-4000-gpus-being-moved-to-legacy-status-in-may

anandtech.com/show/9815/amd-moves-pre-gcn-gpus-to-legacy

Smart people buy Nvidia for long support, dumb people can buy their AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

>permanenly supported
>Using x86
>x64 drivers are still alive

Fermi was supported from 2010 to 2018, fuck off faggot

Nvidia supports GPUs microarchitectures for 8 years

The only thing i know is that you are a poorfag who the hell still has an ancient vga

Nvidia's drivers have literally bricked older cards
>forums.geforce.com/default/topic/887230/nvidia-drivers-bricked-my-pc-/
How is that for support?

>support doesnt mean per-game optimizations and never did
It does to me, so suck my dick faggot.

I know, thats why im kinda frustrated at the current selection of GPU´s since it seems that better and cheaper stuff is on its way. Its a long wait and i dont know what im missing.

>Bitch doesnt know the greatness of Steel Panthers: World at War or Combat Mission Games at
ultrasharp
This is how i know you are a virgin cherry boy.

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>2000HD, 3000HD, 4000HD

There are people on this board right now who weren't even born when those were new.

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>post article
>its AMD not AYYMD you illiterate fuck

So are we going for shitposting? Count me off then.

The average fps is actually fine without hyperthreading, it's the min fps drops that are brutal.

>OLDER DRIVERS EXIST
>THAT MEANS NVIDIA IS SUPPORTING OLDER CARDS LOL

>support means doing absolutely nothing to help with performance in newer games
COPE

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fuck off shill

Don't fall for the memes, you can still play almost everything if low/medium settings are fine by you.

>literally who game
>hzless resolutionless monitor
Try to keep up gramps

>MASTER RACE
>has to use pleb settings
How low have you become

2080ti bros get the FUCK in here

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Yes in cpu demanding games it becomes unplayble. I can't play in Exodus with my shitty 4core/1080ti each 5-6 seconds i have drops and game just stutters like bitch.

>Muh Siege
>Muh CS;yugioh

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no way. the 700 series has aged horribly since nvidia stopped supporting it in 2015.

but where is the RGB?!?!?

>gigabyte
>no m2 drive
>not maxing ram
Budget tier everywhere

Literally whos games
Go back to sleep gramps

im picturing you just throwing the tarp behind it over it after you're done taking pictures. Seriously why in the fuck is your PC outside?

760 with 4gb is fine with 1080/low-mid settings. You will get 30-40 fps mostly, but 2gb is yeah it's aged very bad.

Fuck off faggot, Kepler is well supported even till today

Is turn off retard

>970
>1660
that's not 1670 so the comparison is moot

>playing anything under 144fps
Absolutely disgusting

>six fans covered by glass

To what end

>Go back to sleep gramps
No! I´ts my free weekend after 5 weeks of night shift! Im going to get drunk and shitpost to my hearts full content!

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>30-40 fps
>fine
user...I

no it isn't the cards can literally die from updating drivers you turd.
>forums.geforce.com/default/topic/887230/nvidia-drivers-bricked-my-pc-/

>he doesn't understand how static pressure works

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I just ordered a 1660 Ti earlier this week, did I make a mistake? This thread just makes me more confused, am upgrading from a six year old 660.

probably didnt have enough money for a static band

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> did I make a mistake?
Nope, it's one of the best cards for 1080p gaming. The only other consideration is the 2060 which is $100 more for ~10% more performance.

>user...I
For the 6 years old mid tear card, it's fine.

>get a gpu gifted
HAHA INFINITE FPS PER DOLLAR
retard

They fucked up royally with the 2000 series and wanted the.... actually I have no clue.

crypto mining is not normal use

When is AMD making a comeback to BTFO Jewvidia and punish them for their greed?

>low settings at 30 fps is fine
I mean why not just get a console and call it even?

Who /670/ chad here?

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because when you see the new line of cards, you turn 1660 degrees and walk in whatever direction you're facing.

Is upgrading to 144hz worth it over 60/75hz if you don't play FPS games?

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I got my 2060 for 310 but thats a rare deal.

No one says it's good to buy it now, it was all about if you have it from long ago you can still play some games, yes with not as good fps as you maybe want, but you can still play.

would a 1660ti be a good upgrade from an rx570?

I member

me

I got a 980 Ti back when it launched and just play at 1080p 60fps.

I don't see the need to upgrade right now.

Asus directcu ii model here, wish I had tried blower style card though my fellow 670bro

Yes. You won't really benefit too much from over 90-120ish game wise but it'll make everything look super smooth and games more responsive.

How about staying sober?

>shitposting about cards that will obsolete themselves

RIGHT fucking here m8. I had to RMA my first one because of driver issues and BSOD errors but have had my current one ever since late 2012. I didnt even bother to clean it out for like 3 years and so much dust accumulated on the heatsink and fan that it was literally caked on. I would play shit like rocket league at 95C+ and the card never died out on me. Love it.

Things will look smoother yeah and nowadays it's not too much of an issue to reach a high framerate on 1080p

They literally told the public they're having a gap due to console obligations. This is why the 2000 seriously was a very Jew but balsy move to try and make dosh on the enthusists but failed.

>staying sober

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All games are improved by higher framerates, but especially fast ones.

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Not anytime soon. Navi will barely compete with the 1660

Game?

why would anyone do that?

Upgraded to a 2080 from a 1070 and kind of regret it. I still can't get 4k/60 locked in most games, and I know it's just going to get worse once new consoles come out and games get built for those.

At least I was able to sell my 1070 for a good amount and got a decent deal on this so I'm not out too much.

Is 1440p gaming worth it?

Yes if you can afford it.

I got a 970 and it's still great. I've been meaning to upgrade my CPU and RAM, both of which will take priority over upgrading my GPU.

Is 6gb VRAM not enough for gaming?

970 and the 6GB 1060 are 100% the best GPUs in terms of price to performance.

>I still can't get 4k/60 locked in most games

Why are you even bothering with this in the first place? There's barley a point in going above 1440p for games, and even then there are plenty of good games that you can get 120Hz+ on at that resolution.

videocardbenchmark.net/gpu_value.html

According to this the 1660-Ti beats it hands down for value for money.

old.reddit.com/user/AdoredTV

AYYMDTV BTFO

WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW, AYYMDPOORFAGS?