Have stressful IT job, not feel like play video game when come home

Same though. Town of 10,000 so the whole town only needs like 20 IT guys. Those 200 were basically anywhere within a 5-state area.
But with a small town, I got fired from the most influential one in the area. Not many IT companies wanted their trash.

>I'm a "network engineer"
You motherfucker, that's the role I was (Eventually) aiming for.
But I couldn't break in. Help desk roles seriously don't wanna hire someone on the spectrum, even if I put in a lot of effort to pass as normal. These motherfuckers want social perfection.

But that's done now. In those jobs I was happier any time I was doing physical work instead of anything related to IT. So I figured I may as well change careers.

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being a dishwasher fuckin sucks

That's pretty sexist user.

Ah man I'm sorry. If it's any consolation I kinda lied my way into it. I had previous VoIP experience from the Army so I dressed it up as switching and router experience too. I eventually actually learned how to program in Cisco iOS so I'm not a complete fraud anymore.

>Help desk roles seriously don't wanna hire someone on the spectrum
course not
it's a social job
your job is literally talking

network engineer isn't help desk, you nigger

one of the specializations in my IT course is network engineer & barely anyone does it because it's actually a pretty fucking hard job when you do it seriously
If you're just picking up off a situation where everything is fine, sure it'll be easy till something stops being fine & if you don't know how everything works or how to fix shit you'll likely get fired real fucking fast

>IT
>stressful
You'd fucking break down in tears in an actual job.

People actually think IT is stressful? Nigga you work in a air conditioned office. Most of your job is automated by scripts and software, you're only there to make sure things are not bugging out or calm down normies, and you get paid solid money without endangering your health like welders or construction people do.

Damn, I feel lucky as a nurse. Hospitals and clinics actually compete for me. Would highly recommend as a career change.

I like fucking with networks. I got a Tafe (Australian community college I think? teaches practical skills.) degree for it.
There aren't much in the way of jobs to break into the IT industry outside of Help desk, unless you get super lucky.

And I did think of myself as good enough. I put some serious effort in. But it's not enough for these people.

come wash dishes user
sounds like your job is stressful

I'm gonna bide my time and go to New Zealand. I.T. is their most in demand job since the locals aren't all the technologically advanced.
If you get brought over, for any little IT job you'll be making 55k.
Plus they're much more laid back over there and respect their employees.

wasting 4 years of my life in uni to give old people enemas all day, no thanks m8

>tfw taking software development meme diploma
>2000+ line assignments due the same week as midterms

I have not slept more than a couple hours a night all week and want to kill myself desu

>got a ccna at least?

>Counting money from several registers in a big arena

Oh god I hear the choppers

I get ya, nursing varies alot depending on where you go and who you want to work for. I do home healthcare for critical pediatric patients. Don't think I could stomach an old man enema either

What kind of IT? I work on networks and it's pretty fun, even if I'm just doing VoIP most of the time.

Unfortunately, no, Tafe only put us through half of the tests for it.
I planned on going back and completing it after I had broken into the industry.

wagie are you alright, are you alright wagie

i'm better than some autistic leech living over handouts

Don't worry man you'll be making 50k along with your outsourced counterparts in India in no time

Is IT work really that stressful or difficult?

Well I mean you kind of need a ccna if you want to break into networking, how do you expect anyone to take you seriously otherwise?

Lmao. Actual network engineer here.
You're the retard who watches the monitoring tools that I built. You're welcome. I do more engineer work in a day than you do in a year.

i hate being a kitchen appliance

>Takes a personal reference to wash fucking dishes
GOOD OL' US OF A THE LAND OF OPPORTUNITY

160k+ without ccna, only work half the days per year.

"My job is IT" tells you absolutely nothing.

>Hate stressful IT job
>dishwasher at a restaurant is enjoyable
Fuck me, i thought i was the only one.
I've been in uni, studying chem engy and i fucking hate every single moment of it. Getting a part time at a hotel as service a few months ago was the best shit that's ever happened to me.
Are some people just destined for minimum wagecuckery?

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I was looking for a help desk role user.
I imagine no place would look at someone without any work experience at all, CCNA or not, so I just wanted a basic role for the time being.
In hindsight, I probably should of stuck around and completed it.
But on second thought, I now am sick of PCs, so maybe its good I never went for the CCNA.

I was an IT "Specialist" that did very general things because it was 2 of us being the IT department for a 800 employee nonprofit.
so lotta work for shit pay but they did buy pizza for us a lot.

I'm doing great desu. I haven't been useful to anyone or productive in 5 months. Feels great not to be a waste of space again.

It depends on how shitty the place is you work really. And "IT" generally means any job that works on computers from Geek Squad to Network Architects

Gotta do what I gotta do. I'll get back into computers one day. But getting fired over here is a death sentence in some fields. Nobody wants that trash when you have 20+ other squeaky clean applicants.

I don't know why you're trying to flex on me, I'm making 75k as a govt contractor at 25 years old. Thanks for making it easier for me?

yes and the others are destined for an early heart attack (which they will welcome with open arms)

When I was young I loved shitkicker jobs. Eventually you grow up and get over it. But it's fun while it lasts. Personally I think most people shouldn't go to uni until 25+ and life experienced.

IT is a broad term. Just like gaming is a broad term. You got your entry level (casual) positions, mid level (midcore) positions, and high level (hardcore) positions. The higher you go, the more money you make. But it's usually more stressful the higher you go as management and lead roles put a lot of stress on people.

The point is that you're a nigger cattle and you should strive to achieve something more than "link goes green call India".

What's your steam user? I'd love to play tower unite with you.

Link goes red* I mean.

>Gotta do what I gotta do.
My point is that the job market in this country is fucking horrendous.

I feel the opposite, today's the last day of my dishwashing job because it's so physically taxing i just want to go do it or data entry or something

Yes but probably not you. The reason you find the job so comfy is that the bar is set so low the absolute dregs of humanity can do it, so you exceed all expectations.

Threads like this make me wish I could stay as a NEET forever.

Uh my company (Leidos) is sponsoring my CCNP courses and test fee, but thanks for checking in, dad.

It's BranchedOut

you ain't lyin.
it's why I'm gonna bust my ass and try to get a New Zealand IT company to take me on. being no more than 2 hours from a beach no matter where you are in the country sounds comfy.

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quality of life is more important than money for some people. that's why you see old people working as the delivery guy. all they do is drive around and nobody really bother them since they're by themselves.

Should you do IT if you are ''mediocre'' at math?

Most ccna I know are on level 1 help desk. And most Indians either rote learn the answers or straight up lie about having ccna or ccnp. So congrats you will have a next to useless cert.

This is the most pathetic thread I’ve seen in a while really hope it’s bait

It only takes a reference to get a dick washer job if you are a complete social retard like half of these people seem to be. They need the reference so they can skip the interview because they ruin their chance as soon as they open their mouth by asking if they are allowed to play Pokemon GO during their lunch break.

For that some should rule and others be ruled is a thing not only necessary, but expedient; from the hour of their birth, some are marked out for subjection, others for rule...

IT is not math intensive, at all. I think the most "strenuous" numbers crunching I had to do was subnetting on the fly.

Jesus, is the job market really this fucking bad? Where do you live? This sounds fucking miserable

I mean sure, but it feels nice to be the best, you know?
In uni, i barely had the scores enough to get in and in two years, i've barely passed any classes. I'm nowhere near a degree and i've been thinking i'll never make it anyway. Ontop of that, i've never made a friend in uni. I haven't hung out with people or even talked in class since highschool and it's been killing me.
In my job, the guys are friendly as fuck and we talk about shit all day. It's crazy.

Agreed, networking is more about spatial imagination and expanding where you can be inside your mind. You need to be able know your network inside out, and be able to travel there mentally while having a holistic picture of everything.

OH SAY CAN YOU SEE

If you can do basic algebra you're fine. Programming is not the same as IT.
You do need good problem solving skills the higher up you get because Google's gonna have fuck-all for you.

Small town in Louisiana.

I do data entry and I find it pretty comfy. I just listen to music at my desk and type away. They also don't drug test me so I can smoke weed after work whenever I want.

Is there a big difference between Software and Computer Engineering?

Looking to finish up as a network engineer

Thanks man! And good luck on living the rest of your life with that much vitriol toward people you've never met.

If you have insurance there, don't get hurt or you'll get tested for worker's comp.
my company also did testing every 3 years or upon "suspicion"

Kek, similar like you OP. It's all about quality of life and space your job gives you to follow your interests. I worked in mid-high management in IT few years back. It was extremely well-paid but also extremely stressful and literally revolved around screwing with people. What I did:
>Finished last big project, cashed out those bonuses
>neeted for a two months, training and getting back into a shape
>enlisted in military
>spend two year contract there
>started working in security
>upgraded to diplomatic security

Now i have extremely comfy job in one smaller embassy where I either shitpost, read, play older vidya or study for 85% of my working time. Rest of it I usually follow either someone from a diplomatic staff or ambassador himself to various social occasions. I earn about half of money I did back then in IT, but man, I am very happy and calm now.

>have stressful dishwater job
>want a comfy IT job
Halp

Fuck off stupid frog. No wonder your ass got fired if you went form IT to dishwashing.
Stupid ass frog.

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yes.
Computer Engineers are the ones making the hardware in the computer and need advanced electronics degrees.
Software Engineers are fancy titles that programmers give to themselves after they flunk real engineering.

>stressful
How can you be shit at dishes?
Just turn the radio on and work faster lmao

Did you apply in person? That's the biggest tip I can give you, online applications are totally worthless, going into the location and asking for an application puts you on their radar immediately.

Dumb frog poster

man all those things are completely different, the only constant are computers

I'd go with CE to, more marketable imo

Unless you are explicitly told to apply in person, no one wants you to apply in person.

Honestly noticed a lot of people are going for the IT Sector so i was really unsure on my path choice and the availability of certain jobs.

>but never hear back from them once they ask "so why did you leave your last job"
just lie
that's what literally everyone else does
your problem is that you're honest in a world full of liars

I make six figures a year and my job isn’t that stressful but sometimes I fantasize about going American Beauty and taking a nothing job for no stress or problems.

You are the guy who was bragging about doing 10 minutes of work a year and calling yourself a network engineer, you're worse than pajeet.
Then you will be wondering in 5 years why MUHH JOBSSS when it gets offshored when the efficiency team comes in and sees you on Reddit all day every day.
I don't have vitriol I just don't respect fake engineers and technicians.

Either you're an old man, or trolling.

Stupid ass boomer, Shut your fucking mouth. That doesn't work anymore.

What?
That doesn't work for jobs that pay a little over minimum.

I'm also quitting my high paying/high stress job and become a neet trap on neetbux that does sexual favors for money.

From now on it will be only cocks, cum, women's clothing, autogynephilia, hormones, anime and gayming.

This will be the live

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This sounds like a boomer meme from some old fuck who thinks that everything works the exact same way it did the 70s

Good to hear user. I think people should focus more on being happy at work than making as much money as possible. It's better for you in the long term.

You forgot social isolation, loneliness and ultimately painful suicide in that list bro.

>intranet
>offshored
Lmao

Go on...

Same thing happened to me, systems engineer at fortune 500 company for about 6 years, just dropped out, bumped myself down to student. Got a divorce, lost 130 pounds.

I don't call myself a network engineer, that's my job title. Take it up with Leidos if you have a problem with the scope of the job description lol, I'm sure they'll listen to a REAL network engineer such as yourself.

They don't test small time employees at my office, only the higher up positions. Also, I'm blessed to have never been injured in my life since I'm mostly a shut-in.

>social isolation, loneliness
That only applies to filthy normalfags. Degenerates thrive on isolation.

I just want to add something extra in here - work makes you free.
It doesn't have to be for the boss. But why not work on something to improve your own or your co-workers quality of life at work? Work on your work relationships. Work on something, anything. Don't become a fat lazy piece of shit IT nerd with no fire inside him.
That's the biggest workplace hazard in IT.

>b-b-but there are people that I interact with 5 minutes out of the day, and they ANNOYING!
>YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND user! I FUCKING HATE PEOPLE, REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

what's an easy job for a lazy fag like me to take fellas? I just want to play vidya

It's the joy of manual labor, bros. Was a mechanic back then, now I'm in finance. Sometimes I missed those days. I don't miss the pays though.
Will try IT next.

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You keep telling yourself that user when you are cutting along that street.

I don't know how the current situation is in Cincinnati, but it was downright awful during the Obama years. After college, I was stuck at a retail Staples store for almost two years before moving up in the company doing some remote Helpdesk stuff from home. It took another year before finally doing something similar to what I went to school for and I have been there ever since. When I was job hunting again before getting this job, Trump took over and all of a sudden the job market opened up and I had so many interviews whereas before under Obama I only had two total.

Unless the job market took a dump since I got the job, it was getting better, but there is still room for improvement.

unironically wagecucking
make enough to pay bills and you'll be happy.
fags who want new cars and gourmet food are the ones that demand $15/hr for their minimum wage shitter job.

>Works at a company with tiny profit and doesn't realise all big corporations offshore intranet
Oh no no no

What are some IT jobs that don't require coding experience?

Sorry, I'm not a failed normalfag.

Sorry I don't have time to look up nobody companies. Actually do but I couldn't be bothered.

Low-tier security jobs like a night guard. Got a bro who work as a security guard in huge-ass storage facility. He literally comes to work, sit down, start his laptop and plays vidya until the end of his shift. Pay is shit though.

Help Desk/Tech Support/Field Tech

Wow, this sounds just like a boomer mom - who still thinks it's 1982 and you can just get your career by reading an ad in the Sunday newspaper.

Networking. But you need a fucking brain

>work comfy but not high paying job
>no gf or kids, forever single
>still live with parents rent free since we have a great bond
>have very little expenses since I live frugally and save up
>all this money to spend on whatever I want or if I get laid off I can live comfortably as a NEET for a long time

it's a good feel.

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>Worked my ass fixing computers and doing maintenance at a lawyers firm every day from 9 to 21 for barely any money at all
>Finally had enough and quit
>One day some random woman that saw me working there asked me if I could help her with her computer
>She wanted me to teach her how to use it, but quickly gives up and instead makes me help her with her documents myself, that's fine, I rather do this
>I do
>The woman is a well known doctor and she likes how I work, so she recommends me a lot to her friends
>Immediately went from no job to nearly 20 clients
Now I work 2 to 4 hours a day and earn more than I did before, I'm real happy

You are a human and you think you can "thrive" on social isolation you are either a teenage edgelord who never actually "enjoyed" it in real life or exactly that - normalfag who have no idea either.

>in my country a minimum wage dishwasher job is ~300-400 uros
>A job with degrees, doctorates etc is just 800-1000
Why the fuck do people even bother with uni.
Why would you put yourself through all that with such little difference in the end?

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How bad will things get when companies start employing pajeets for minimum wage?

I'm 35, user. But keep being an npc if that makes you happy.

You need a balance. I enjoy time alone but social things are nice once in a while. I enjoy the social aspect of work. The secret is to work with mad cunts.
People make or break a job.

>IT
>Sitting at a desk all day with computers
>Stressful
Try working in the medical field, dickhead.
t.Paramedic

>You need balance
I wholeheartedly agree. Balance in all things is the most important human pursuit.

see
Who cares how old you are.

Get in early on a permanent contract before they take over and lower the standard wage. If you're at a decent company they won't give you pay decreases, but they will just stop hiring locals. And you will be the highest paid guy on the floor.

I know you're not involved with the DoD, but Leidos is not a "nobody company". It's basically Lockheed Martin's former IT divison that got bought by SAIC and spun into Leidos.

being a male nurse is unironically based

>tfw my country basically forces you to go to uni to have a decent job
god damn

See

I get all my social needs from Yea Forums and MMOs. Fuck normies.

Agree it's my backup career

Greece?

Give up

How is Leidos? UK here and I was looking into their grad program.

[spoilder]somewhere in spicland, sorry brah[/spoiler]

Remember people think retail is stressful, retards can't handle idiots. Imagine if these people had to do management, the sheer stupidity you go through because anything you deal with is an escalated problem. I manage a gas station part time and have had 2 female employees break down crying because women have yelled at them and they want to go home. Most adults have never had to deal with someone either yelling at them or being an asshole to them, the first time someone is just being an irrational cunt to them fucks em up big time. I really think as cheesy as it sounds that playing real sports helps with building character and certainly experience in dealing with hardship.

how hard was math for you college/uni bros ITT?

the owner of the restaurant sounds like she may do that for me. She was complaining about "i buy $1500 laptop and it fill up why is that"
she's also nippon.
Here's hoping I can make $2-300 during the day fixing local businesses shit, then waltz in at 4PM to wash some dishes.

Here in NYC that's a PCA job, not RN. You know, Nurse helper.

Ctrl+S user.

31 year old NEET here, I applied for around 50 jobs in person and hundreds online and even though I have a bachelor's in network administration, NET+, and SEC+, I never got hired a single time in my field. As the other people are saying, this is definitely a boomer meme that no longer applies to the real world.

Why? I'm just keeping you informed. Like I said earlier, I get paid (indirectly) to browse Reddit and Yea Forums. I'm still on the clock friendo!

>get office job for government department
>Work starts at 7am, finishes 3pm, any time extra is flexi time
>Play vidya most nights for at least an hour or two
>Still got time to do other stuff before bed

How the fuck do people find having a job a roadblock to playing vidya? If anything it makes that gaming time feel extra special, plus I've got enough money to buy a new game every week if I wanted.

you sound stressed user.
come wash dishes

dead-easy once I switched to computer info sys. also didn't learn much about computers.

There's too much vitriol in this thread.

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This is why banter exists, but cuck parents think banter is "mean spirited" so then they tried to prevent it, which is why zoomers are such blubbering messes most of the time.

yes I fucked up sorry
should I delete it

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>this is definitely a boomer meme

What is? That people with skills don't get hired?

>"Why did you leave your last job"
Simple answer: I worked in IT for a long time, but staring at the screen for prolonged periods of time as I did caused me to have week long periods of painful eye-strain and eventually migraines.
Just lie like the other user said.

This guy gets it, where my male nurse niggas at?

stressful jobs do that to you
can't we all just wash dishes

Nice work user. I still wish I broke into the “help boomers with their computers” thing back in the early 2000s when XP was putting virii on everyone’s machine and nobody knew how to set up a WiFi network. My FIL paid some fat spic tons of money to do all that shit that I was doing just because I liked to do it.

Golden years.

>Tfw Banker
>25 with my own little apartment rented
>Beautiful girlfriend that loves me
>Job that pays 50k a year ina country with min wage being 12 , and I just got a 10k bonus last month
> tfw you are not a australian dishwasher

Feels gud

Go away, baby boomer

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>tower unite
>old rubescape

The sheer autism.

My next step, trying to get in order first before looking into Medic/RN bridge classes.

>prospective company calls my last workplace to confirm I worked there from the dates I said
>"yes he was terminated on that day"
>"he was what"
ta-da and now I can face charges if caught.
I'm not chancing that shit and would rather come off as honest and be appreciated for that

same with me i only have to suck dick at night

Dress better? Or perhaps you are just plain ugly?

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We all make mistakes user.
There is no need to be upset.

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no, that people with skills DO get hired, and putting yourself out there by applying in person is a way to get hired faster. Most people just don't want to see your fucking face and would rather ignore your resume remotely instead of ignoring it in person, remotely they are slightly less annoyed by you and you have a 1% better chance of getting randomly chosen as the winner.

Just a little aspergers here and there

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>Work in IT.
>Everyone is miserable and constantly walking on egg shells with the more sensitive employees.
>Quit.
>Go to chop wood instead.
>Everyone I work with is super friendly and more open about the things they talk about.
>Talked for over an hour with this mega chad I work with about Mech Assault.

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USA?
But ironically.

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Work environments are very different than school, you normally have to be a woman to have problems with your coworkers lol.

Just got a internship for data analyst after being neet for a couple of years.
The job title is generic since it covers a lot of different areas and I have no experience in any of it.
I am hopeful however this will lead me to a better path.

>Brag and project your life to individuals who are happy with what they have

Spot the guy who's going to wish to kill himself when his wife cheats on him, his kids hate him and when the jews break him.

>Drop out
>Unemployed
>Virgin

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I have a thousand dollar Italian suit, but I guess you can't fix ugly so maybe that's the issue. Either way I no longer give a fuck, I will never work.

Just Lie in a better way then, For example if they fired you for being late all the time, just say they had to let you go for being late all the time, but just say it was because your mother was sick or something but she's better/dead now.

Reminds me of when I bartended back in the day. The staff was a freaking crew that was joy to work with.

So salty

This was me at 19, you can still fix it you know.

What were you terminated for?
As long as it doesn't fit into the lazy category or you got #MeToo'd you should be ok.
And leave Louisiana ffs, you'd be better off being, what're they called again? Shrimp fisherman? But that shit'll be gone by the time SE Asia fucks over that market time.

Ah man, all I can tell you is the US side of things, and specifically the US DoD side of it lol. With that being said, assuming it's the same company across the globe, Leidos is fantastic. I didn't know they had a student program but with the money these guys make, I'm sure you'll get exposed to some pretty fucking cool stuff.

>Spending that much on a suit when you don't have the body or financial situation for it
Fucking dumbass. Piece together clothes from Uniqlo or Old Navy and sell your work history. You're not working on Wall Street, no need for big name Italian brands.

That doesn't work either, user. Most jobs wouldn't hire someone with ongoing personal issues like that. You're schedule at 7am, they want you at 655am, not 715am because you had to finish your mom's meds or whatever excuse.

I didn't spend a dime on it, my dad gave it to me.

Over a 14 month period, I forgot to back up a server 3 times, which was one of my daily duties.
Got fired due to it being policy and they can't fire the even worse employees unless they follow policy through and through. Someone higher up didn't like me i think desu

I'm not only trying to leave Louisiana but also the damn country. That's why Louisiana is a shithole filled with niggers. Anyone with half a brain leaves

To work in the UK of course.

Good for you fren.

Is it at least tailored for your build?

How did you explain your gap in doing anything?

Just say
>They told me they were cutting costs and as such I was terminated

Even if they call your old firm and they say another thing, you can just say that that was the reason they told you, and unless someone filmed your firing, they cant prove otherwise.

Do you get interviews user? If you don't, then its your resume that's the problem. If you are, then you're basically failling the shit test of "will I (the employer) like working with this chuckefuck?"

I'm nearing 21.
How do you fix this?

>in classes 3 days a week
>working 2 days a week as a carpenter
>find it easier than when I was a retailcuck plus it pays more
>have a lot of money but no time to use it because I'm working on projects for classes the other two days
I honestly don't have anything to complain about though, at least in comparison to other people

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I'm about to major in Information Systems Technology and aim for business analyst, it management or database admin jobs. Should I not take the it route??? Should I do something else? I actually don't like tech much but I want a decent job that doesn't involve too much customer service or people. Programming not an option

he had it retailored, yes.
I worked with multiple different agencies on different resumes, it's this area, looking for IT in the rural US south is retarded and I now know that, but I'm not moving to a place that the industry is good in because I don't want to be surrounded by minorities and liberals.

>I was an IT "Specialist" that did very general things because it was 2 of us being the IT department for a 800 employee nonprofit.
>so lotta work for shit pay but they did buy pizza for us a lot.
That sounds like aids. We're in charge of multiple groups, buildings, and what have you, but there's gotta be at least 15 of us. As long as things aren't on fire it's a good time. Look into getting network certs, ccna, sec+, that shit.

None of that answered if you get interviews or not. I don't care where you live, I'm asking if you can land an interview.

I deliver pizza and even though it's a fast food bottom of the barrel job, it's nice being able to sit on my ass and listen to any music or podcast that I want in my own privacy 90% of the time. Also no stress and only have to deal with customers for a maximum of a minute at most, and have plenty of time to play vidya. Feelsgoodman

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>too much customer service or people.
holy shit run as fast as you fucking can from all of those.

I got some microsoft server certs back in 2012. Will consider those certs going forward though.

>looking for IT in the rural US south is retarded and I now know that, but I'm not moving to a place that the industry is good in because I don't want to be surrounded by minorities and liberals.
Suck it up, ya faggot.

get your GED to start, or whatever the equivalent is in your country

Dude IT is 100% not the industry for you. Not liking tech much is understandable but talking to people about what's wrong/how to fix a problem is literally half the job.

as I said, I was physically at around 50 interviews over a 6 year period. this is all irrelevant though because I will jump off a bridge before I work.

user you cant banter with idiotic costumers, well you can but it will most likely get you fired
And that’s the problem, even if you are used to banter the fact that you have to lay down and take it like a bitch will make you frustrated
Sadly trying to educate people into not being assholes just doesn’t seem to work

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I know right? These anons dont understand hard stressful work. I worked in a God damn laser cutting shop during summer with no AC. The boss was a tyrant and we worked overtime every day plus Saturdays. 6 days a week 10 hours+ a day in extreme heat. Fuck off with IT if stressful.

Jesus christ...
Im a decently staunch conservative living in a city full of immigrants. Work here is plentiful and it's an EMPLOYEE MARKET.
This city overwhelming votes democrat, but the state is red, and I live amongst other white people. Ofc you get the looks every now and then for not speaking spanish or being a darker shade of white, but the money makes you get used to it user. It's not really as bad as /pol/ and 4chin wants you to think.

Operational support, it's a whole fucking industry lol.

>as I said, I was physically at around 50 interviews over a 6 year period
No, you said before that you applied to 50 jobs, but lets just say that you did get interviews for all 50 places you physically went to. Now you know where the issue is and can fix it. There are plenty of lists, websites, and even books that can help you out in that aspect.
If worst comes to worst, just volunteer (remotely) for a bit so you'll get to know people and can get a job easier.

What job can you get that doesn't involve customers though. I figure IST is still a decent degree I don't really have any options as a brainlet to avoid customers do I? I don't mind coworkers but I hate front facing customers shit

this, even 6 years ago I went around to every place I could find trying to get applications or apply in person, every time the receptionist told me wtf are you doing go apply online idiot - in so many words

Ok so your job is physically stressful. What's wrong with a job being mentally stressful? That exists too.

Retail can be stressful tho user. Imagine being surrounded by 'tards all day. Its like Yea Forums, but in real life

I'm on the path to getting a CS degree at the moment. I do really well in classes with instruction but am terrible at self-motivation and personal projects and know nothing useful.
Can I still get a job with only a degree? My dream is to work in an office where I can sit down, tired of standing all day.
video games

Security guard, night shift

The jobs you get that don't have customers are years and years past having the jobs where you deal with customers.
unless you are omegabigbrain and know someone that can get you into a top-tier IT job, you're going to sludge it through idiots until you get there. Many people do this for 10 years or more

>went through college and everything
>made it through but hated the lifestyle, gradually lost work ethic and will to keep up with studies
>graduated and got a job for the meantime as I look for work related to my degree
>making ends meet delivering food part time, have tons of free time, little stress, self-esteem is higher than ever
Probably don’t want to wind up doing this my whole life but damn it seems pretty tempting right now.

Washing dishes was great though, got to stay in the back and never have to talk to anyone, work was simple and cathartic, and brainless enough that I could use my brain for contemplating more interesting things and developing ideas for essays I’d write in my spare time.

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Are all pizza delivery guys also drug dealers on the side? I find that it's more often the case than not.

Non-profits typically don't have "customers" in the way the average job has them, but a lot of the time you're not dealing with outside people.

>decent job that doesn't involve too much customer service or people
Oh boy, did you ever fuck up.

Most IT roles have you talking to people. If you're autistic or get panic attacks talking to people in person then switch careers ASAP. I suggest trade jobs, boomers are retiring and they're in demand.

What the fuck is the point of getting an IT degree then if you have to start in help desk? You can't skip straight into a junior sys admin position or database work?

It needs to be a safe place tho
Otherwise you just gonna have to deal with people trying to break into shit and potentially get shot

>reference to get a dick washer job

>Mental stress
Again, medical field. Let me know what in IT matches losing a 2 year old to cardiac arrest because her dumbass parents weren't watching when she ingested something. Tell me what in IT matches coming to the home of a child abuse victim where CPA STILL HAS NOT done their one goddamn job.

Actually first job was dishwasher/ delivery driver was comfy, then moved to line cook and then head cook at a smokehouse that shit was stressful. Got my degree and work IT for a local tech start up of a family friend, and got the management job at the gas station to help my buddy out and extra dosh. Management is very easy if you aren't a retard and just don't hire pregnant women/women which is illegal but cuts out 99% of problems. IT work for me is basically non existent short of some retard unplugging something that they shouldn't or someone losing their keycard or login stuff.
I now ask people if they played any sports in high school or clubs. My buddy hired a white University student, rare in Southern California, he thought it would be fine because "he got into a UC he should be able to handle a gas station". Guys cracking under the pressure and I had to talk to him and just explain to him that his job isn't to listen to people's opinions but to handle the till and store. Everyone gets the kids gloves for so long that when they enter a non school environment and start getting yelled at or someone's just mad and expressing it they can't really handle it. Was talking to him for about 2 hours just to get him to understand that the people who take the time out of their day to file complaints at a gas station are so mentally insane/retarded that we've never had one in 15 years be legit. So many young adults are so unsure of themselves that even when they are in the right they are scared of consequences because of "the customer is always right" and all those other boomer sayings.

Listen dude a degree just says you can committ to something for 4 years and in CS it also means you're not a complete mouthbreather. It says what you've learned but it doesn't say what you can actually do. Start doing some projects in your off time and develop a little portfolio, no matter how trivial the project. Something that shows you can apply your knowledge to real world projects.

You can, but it's a lot harder to do so. Just bite the bullet and make a portfolio or whatever and smile for Mr. Jackass for five minutes so he can recommend you to his friends

help desk support is basically your only option as step 1 unless you know someone.

Being physically stressful can also affect your state of mind too user. Hot temperatures can't make you think straight, being tired all the time makes your brain forget things, getting injured can induce nightmares and other issues.

I like coworkers and inhouse employees I just hate the public. Anyway to get around front facing call work?

If you have certifications and can prove that you can actually work there. Build a portfolio.
Create a virtualized environment in a lab. they aren't going to train you from scratch. You need demonstrative skills. I don't think you realize how little you're going to learn from an I.T. degree.

you say all this shit like it's a badge of honor, I can't believe people are gatekeeping being stressed. Stressors exist everywhere, fuck off with this elitist attitude.

user, he asked for a job where he doesn't have to talk to people. He might as well just stay at home and never work if he wants to be a lazy anti-social shit and not do anything

I'm a paramedic. I've been there, but don't be like that. Things are relative. Just because one person is having significantly more stress doesn't mean the other person isn't being beat down in there own way as well.

Getting internships can skip help desk right? Otherwise why not just get certs to do tier 1 instead of spending 4 years on a BS?

user all jobs are mentally stressful
They all requiere mental tasks, even physical jobs, that you have never done anythong physical in your life and don’t understand this it’s a different matter

Anything involving "night" really. People don't want those jobs so they are easy to get too.

A little caveat (if you're a leaf, can't speak for USA), finding an apprenticeship can be very difficult if you are not local. Most places don't/won't pay to fly you in/out anymore, and most won't even look at your resume if you're a first year from out of town. Also, depending on who you work with, the environments can be completely ass. I had an electrical apprenticeship in Iqaluit for a while, and it was the worst experience of my life.

I left my IT job of 6 years out of stress to get a standard job while I wait to join the army
Thank God i realize that it wasn't the life for my and I'm way more happy out of that career

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You've cracked the Jew code user. computer degrees are memes if you can prove yourself.

I'm not mentioning it like a badge of honor. If working with computers stresses you out, I love to see you working with people face-to-face. Don't give me that bullshit.

I did nursing for a while. I had no problem at a with the dirty work.

The female collegues were fucking annoying drama queens though that drove me insane.

Holy shit OP are you me? I also quit a high paying IT job, now I'm doing entry level jobs while I work on becoming a camera operator on my spare time.

Quite a few have been and I used to so I guess lol. It's easy to drop off some product after dropping off a delivery

>Mfw my "customers" are all educated rich bastards
>Occasional guy gets angry but learned how to deflect anger into solutions
>Zero stress

Just dont be socially inept and many job becomes low stress

I haven't signed up yet but I need another degree since my meme art one isn't working out. What's a good degree that doesn't involve customer service, can be done by a brainlet, doesn't involve a lot of learning outside the job(fuck tech) and pays middle class income??

pdx?

Eh, a majority don't. I've been working the same job for 3 years, construction site EMT, and between may-september, a lot of places have overnight permits. I pick those up for easy OT, sleeping on my overnights and waking up around 6am before the 'important people' arrive.

It's far better for people without obligations though. Kids, relationships, family, all those work against overnight shifts

Trade school. Learn how to fix HVAC units.

Don't be mean to NOC bros. We would have to do all the tier 1 crap if they weren't around.

Not a degree, but SKILLED construction trades like electrician, plumbing, welding etc. Plus electrician and plumbing are useful for personal life because some places like to charge expensive amounts for bullshit work, might as well have the experience to do it yourself if needed.

>the others are destined for an early heart attack (which they will welcome with open arms)
And there are others that are destined to kill themselves by 30 because they mutilated their bodies

>had lazy ass IT support job for professors who were already computer masters
>get a new job at a much bigger department with wider range of users
>youngest one there but accidentally prove myself too useful
>set up network for a newly constructed building so I know the most about it and the switches
>plan switch over to voip phones so I’m the expert on it
>best writer and speaker so I have to do all the documentation and presentations for users
>not a sperg so users want me to personally help them with everything

Heres an interview tip: never EVER talk negatively about your last job. When they ask why you left your last job. Say something like "it was an awesome company, but didn't align with my goals"

Physical work sucks ass esp as a career changer at 35. Gotta be something with desk work.

thanks

Not a degree per se, but security work can be passable. I worked as a security guard at a paper mill for a few months before getting (miserable) work inside the mill itself, but I only had to do a two week security guard course and a week of first aid to qualify for the position. It paid $16 an hour (I'm a leaf), and night shifts were fucking heavenly. I basically saw 2-3 people the whole 12 hour shift tops and only had to check the doors in the mill to make sure they were locked once in the shift. Other than that, I played handhelds for hours. I'm prepared to do the course again (guard license expired) if my IT+Trades degrees don't work out.

Most of the time you are in your office checking the cameras, making a round every now and again, if you see or hear anything you lock up and call the police, you are just a security guard you are not supposed to lay your life on the line, even in case of an assault you are most likely asked to cooperate, most of the time companies will lose more on the insurance of losing an employe or one getting hurt that by any old thing some dick ass thief grabs

v-videogames?

I'm very good at getting jobs user, I know how to interview. Try getting fired from the most influential business in your small town. It's a challenge to work against. Hard mode: be honest

>networking
>no coding experience
Get ready to be laid off after I build an Ansible playbook that does 75% of your job.

So user, what are your weaknesses? Do note we dont want to hear the answer.

You can for sure translate that to a career tip. Never talk shit about your previous job, current job, previous/current coworkers/supervisors etc. with people you work with.

They're not your friends, you're just there to produce and that's it.

A lot of people can pass sec+ after just a couple weeks of studying granted it was like 80 hours total or more of studying.
Anything security related is always in demand. I don't have my ccna because I work on juniper and brocade, but I'll eventually grab it because working on cisco is so much nicer, plus everyone uses.

Electrician isn't a labor-intensive job. If that still isn't good enough for you, you can also sell your boipussi.

>"I can be a little disorganized but I've been working on that by setting reminders and keeping organized"
That has worked for me. Never say anything hinting at social ineptitude.

You can't write a playbook for tier 1 networking, i.e. layer 1 and 2 shit dude.

Agreed, if you can get past some of the absolute shit work you may have to do. I would strongly encourage, should you undertake this path, to avoid construction like the fucking plague. You will ruin yourself in crawl spaces, and having to lug conduit all over the place as the team bitch. I got a taste of residential and actually found it very easy and enjoyable. A shame my apprenticeship was largely construction-based.

I need to work on my networking fundamentals before I look at security stuff, but yes I do see all those damn high paying security jobs.

It's only stressful if you care what retards say, working as a cook really made me realize how retarded everyone is and how I shouldn't value anyone's opinion unless they have experience. I had been smoking meats for 5+ years and the owner who's been smoking meats for 20+ years and was a private chef for multiple celebrities, traveled the US to learn more about other states BBQ. Yet some random woman is going to walk into our kitchen to tell us the brisket we smoked for 14 hours is raw because it has a smoke ring. Women sending back salads asking for it to be "more chopped", people ordering quesadillas for their kids and then sending it back because the child is lactose intolerant and they didn't know it would have cheese. Vegans asking if we had anymore vegan options than a salad. Any and all fuck ups are 99.9% of the time the front of the house but the waitstaff always blame the kitchen because they want those tips. It really was eye opening working in a kitchen, it makes you racist and sexist no matter your color or race just because of the sheer number of stereotypes that you see. There's a reason so many people resturant workers are alcoholics lol, just longer interactions with retards. Retail you can just work faster to get them out sooner and throw problems on management. Being a manager is actually fun to me because I get to tell those retards in nice words that they are lying sacks of shit and to never come back to my station.

>Work with a guy
>We're instantly joking, making fun of each other, and having a good time day 1

>Get matched with a woman
>Say the wrong word or something with a different tone
>She remembers it forever and holds it over you forever
>Wonders why you aren't talking
I hate this. Paramedic life sucks when you have a partner you can't stand.

the ultimate blackpill is accepting that blue collar work/farming/unskilled labor leads to a happier life than white collar jobs. that's what i learned from uni

>recommendation to work as dishwasher

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seminolestate.edu/it/ist-bs

Does this seem like an OK degree bros? Was thinking of the programming subtrack and getting an sql meme job

I only have a CS degree to my name but I wanna start applying for entry level jobs in other fields because this shit aint for me. I heard keeping the degree on my CV will leave me very overqualified, but I have literally nothing else to put on my CV

whaddup zucc
youtube.com/watch?v=H34QpoJsmrw

I wouldn't say CCNA is only applicable if you work with Cisco equipment. Sure it's vendor specific but the knowledge in a CCENT is applicable to networking overall.

roses are red
violets are blue
they don't think it be like this
but it do

Actually it's illegal in most states for your former employers to tell anyone you were fired.

Just a little heads up for anyone here in the same position.

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>Mention your strongest attributes in a negative way that still sounds positive
Always works when it comes to my OCD; very thorough and attentive person, as well as staying active/moving during job shifts. Helped getting me an ER Tech position part time 3 days a week, my full time job is still riding on an ambulance.

Overqualified is better than underqualified, just go for it

I am quite a polite guy but as a nurse I once tried to refer to a patient we needed to discuss. So I referred to her as the crippled lady.

4 months later I got a negative review for being rude to patients. And I needed to work on my language.

At my company, they require Help Desk for 1 year so you can be weeded out as a sperg and know a little bit of everything

I lied about my credentials and got a job, climbed the ladder into a Desktop Tech job and now I make SCCM packages for 65k a year now and I’m only 25

hey user
how am i going to prove they said that?
Something to consider.

So you're resigned to becoming a cable monkey doing layer 1 stuff? If you think that layer 2 troubleshooting can't be automated I got news for you.

Note that the patient wasnt even there.

>seminolestate.edu/it/ist-bs
what are the tuition fees like? is there any way you can go to a CC for two years and transfer credits in?

Mark is a God damn alien and has a weak ass setup, doesn't even make his own sauce.

>now I make SCCM packages for 65k a year now and I’m only 25
IS IT YOU I HAVE TO FUCKING BLAME FOR THAT SHITTY-ASS SYSTEM CRASHING ALL THE GODDAMN TIME IF I CLICK TOO FAST?

niggaz

Man I forgot about much generic IT degrees dabble in a little bit of everything.

Yeah it seems fine if you need a foundation for IT in general. Won't get you a job alone, but if there's hands on experience in that curriculum I would go for it.

Also look into what Valencia/UCF has to offer, I think they have an IT program too but I haven't checked in a literal decade.

I gave up on IT shit. You have to know someone to get into those jobs. I'm currently fucking my body up in a factory in "assembly". It fucking sucks, my body is always in pain, my feet feel 10/10 unbearable pain at the end of every shift and all for $13.40 an hour.

I tried for months, for months on end to get freelance clients and to get work. The only offers I got were from Indians outsourcing $50 websites or garage startups from old people looking to hire $10/hr developers who insist you use shit like Adobe Dreamweaver. I've completely given up on any kind of decent life in anything outside of a horrendous job.

If you can get clearances and play your cards right you'll be set for life. Maybe look into Net+?
I just meant that it's much easier if you're actually applying what's on the test. Granted the concepts are the same and commands are usually close enough.

your job isn't going to give enough of a shit about you finding a new job enough to risk the chance that you could prove it.

if you're that worried about what your job will say just call yourself (if whoever's answering wouldnt recognize you) or have afriend do it and ask some questions about your previous employment.

its bullshit. were you talking to one other person or was it in a group

Thanks

130 per credit hour and yes it's accredited and all credits transferred from uni

See

Uh I'm Cloud Administration but I was just saying you don't necessarily need to know how to code if you're working in entry level networking. Don't treat it as a prestigious, academic field.

yea he has a pretty quaint setup for a billionaire

I took a few practice exams for Net+ and barely skimmed by. It'd be my next target.

With two other nurses in a different room.

You can always just go to a trade school, user. It's not over yet until the fat Yea Forumsirgin shoots himself.

Nurses are such huge cunts. When I bring patients in, sometimes they will just come out the gate being bitchy for no reason at all. And then they'll go back to their little corner and start gossiping. Even if the nurse is a total cunt for no reason, there's not much you can do about it. If you stand up for yourself, they'll call your supervisor who will then disregard your side of the story. Good luck going against the word of a nurse, her gaggle of cunts, and the charge nurse she's friends with.

The only non-cunt ones I've seen tend to be more towards the masculine side if you know what I mean. Tomboyish.

ok its reasonably priced, i say go for it, but im a biology phd not a tech person but it looks alright to me

It's all online no hands on =/. Tbh I'm just looking for something to do with my life as a failed illustrator was hoping IT would be a good way out or as a way to get into management. I have no idea what is a good in demand career these days

>$13.40 an hour
Jesus fucking christ dude... That's fucking horrible. That's like 25k a year BEFORE taxes. What the fuck are you doing?

that was your problem. only say shit like that when its one other person so you would know who ratted you out.

Get some custom inserts for your work boots and get a nice pair of work boots. Night and day between wearing cheap boots and good boots, it's well worth the money.

Maybe.

Our problem are old PCs running our shit AV (forced to used McAfee due to contract) and we keeping adding more background software without having better hardware.

But none of those problems affect me anymore so ;)

Yeah, my boots were given to me for free so I didn't have to buy any but they're hard as fuck on the inside and the pain is unbearable some nights. I just got some Dr. Scholl's inserts so I hope that helps tonight.

My best friend tells me daily about the coworkers she has to put up with. I honestly wonder if I should even follow her and become an RN, but I think I might settle for something else like phlebotomist probably. During my paramedic rotations, all I ever saw them do was grab blood and vanish within seconds

>you don't necessarily need to know how to code if you're working in entry level networking
Sure but in every company I've worked for in the last 15 years, those roles have always been filled by MSPs or 'consultants' in India.
>Don't treat it as a prestigious, academic field.
I'm literally saying it can be automated, how is that treating it as prestigious?

Ah shit dude. Yo check out WGU, it's completely regionally accredited and their programs include actual certs in the curriculum. It's also all online but this way you get certs out of it too. A buddy of mine I work with took the Network Operations and Security course and got his CompTIA A+,Net+,Sec+, CCNA and CCNA Security out of it, all paid for by the tuition of the school.

Well godspeed user. You'll get that comfy telecomm/network job someday. I dont know about you but for me it's the perfect balance of blue and white collar work. Plus networking isn't a meme like /kode/ing and every business needs some support be it physical or cloud based.

Why do fags like you always have to try one-upping people when it comes to basic human emotions and hardship? "My dog just died, this is such a shitty day." "Uh, yeah well, my Dad died a couple years ago and that was a lot worse so get over it." Just because you were enough of a cuck to regularly work overtime in a shit job or saw some bad shit in your line of work doesn't mean you get to invalidate other people's experiences. That's some boomer-tier shit.

I actually told them it was bullshit and quit on the spot. Then they began talking about giving - me - another chance and I said no. Said my goodbyes and left.

Dr sholls is a godsend I'm about to get some new inserts today

Never smoked it a day in my life, but I've been a weed tycoon for a little over a year for medical, and hot damn is this money unreal.

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I considered it but to get in you have to have work experience. They ask 3 years of tech experience to get their IT degree

I'm glad you found something you like doing as your job

EMS is a black hole. There's no real advancement. A career dead end if you let it. It's also not a respected career and most people will see you as an ambulance driver which is why you get shit pay, poor benefits, etc. RN has so many more opportunities to advance. It's an actual career.

I would only do paramedic if you plan on working for a fire service. With fire, you can advance your career significantly over the course of your life and you get the benefits of working for the city directly. You also get paid more and get more respect along with more discounts at stores.

Based. I did some heavy lifting for a music event and got free steelcap boots out of it. Uncomfortable as fuck but they protect your feet.
I dropped a fold-up bar table on my foot and didn't feel anything lol

good on you. you dont need a track record of them talking shit to you

If you have no kids and no commitments, where's a place you could move to and get a decent job? 100% serious. I've heard of pipeline jobs that require no experience but have no idea where to go. I need to get the fuck out of Ohio.

Alright, my fault for assuming you were trying to scare him away from the field.

Maybe I overreacted, but I didnt feel like getting accused of bullshit.

The military, not even memeing.

Pretty hard to actually validate work stress when it's a cozy desk job making middle class income, probably with decent benefits as well.

But it's ok, user. Want your blanky so you can continue about fee-fees working with computers?

>Work 5-5 5 days a week
>Make $1,300 a month
lol

The military is a fucking joke and good luck claiming those "benefits".

>he can't be stressed because he doesn't work outside and makes a decent living

this is literally the same line of thinking as "white people can't be discriminated against". why are you trying to flex with stress lmao

>get engineering job where they don't do overtime at all
>company is stress free life
>stress free work
>starting pay is 100k

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>tfw dishwasher is the only thing you'd be good at but the skin on your fingers and knuckles is so dry and with dozens of cracks and bleeding all the time because on anticoagulants for years you wouldn't even qualify
>tried to save up some bitcorn but got goxxed, marcopolo'd and bitmexrekt out of what little you could save so can't buy cheap Uber car either
You're living the dream OP and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

Nursing is way easier than IT. To get a decent salary with computers you constantly have to learn new shit outside of work and complicated stuff at that. Nurses you get your pretty 2 year degree then online b.s. of bullshit classes then never need to learn again while getting 70k a year

>you were trying to scare him away from the field.
No, I am a network engineer by trade and love it. I was shitposting mostly, but I was taking offense to the idea that you will never have to learn how to code if you go into networking. Sure, you can be a CLI jockey, but those jobs are going away, fast. I've seen so many 'old guard' types get laid off or fired because they can't keep up with the 20 year olds that get work done 20 times faster because they know a bit of python.

damn nigga it was only a suggestion. I've known people that pick an IT or medical job in the military and come out doing the same thing for more money

You are why people hate nurses

Yeah I know it's a black hole, that's why I didn't finish those classes. And I've tried twice to get into FDNY, but they seem to have an issue with me despite turning in all my paperwork on-time and when requested. At 29 I've given up on firefighter (age cutoff), so I need to do something else, at least get myself into a hospital system. For now, I'm working on construction site as the medical support, at least I'm gaining insight and experience into this field, slowly gaining time until 3 years for fire safety.

How high iq do you need to be to become an engineer? I failed college algebra twice but I never studied

Not that user; but the military guys who make it a life career are treated well. It’s the guys who do 1 deployment get their leg blown off that are fucked with benefits.

>go to uni to get a job in IT
Why? IT is like fucking help desk shit, fixing other people's computer fuck-ups, setting up the printer, and shit. That sounds shitty on it's own regards. Go for being an entry level dev or an analyst. At least you can be in the back, further away from general population
t. computer analyst. Thinking about picking up networking. All I do is write SQL and make internal reporting apps

"C"s get degrees homie, all about persistence and staying above that 2.0

And don't forget the firm handshake, right?

Some hospitals will help pay for your RN if you work as a tech for them for awhile.

you dont want to be a firefighter. half of them or more get cancer

>get programming job immediately after graduating
>project is horribly understaffed and 4 months behind schedule, code review was scrapped because there is no one to do it
>lead designer is on 3 projects at once, has no time to review anything he does, breaks shit on a weekly basis
>design still isn't properly finished
>other companies we're cooperating with break shit all the time too

Comfy until you're assigned to a dumpster fire and trying to fulfill deadlines

You can be an analyst straight out of college with an IT degree. No need for help desk. Computer Analyst is an IT job

IQ doesn't matter, unless you're below average. It's about putting in work. Just study your ass off. Last semester I didn't play any videogames for 3 weeks, but that's because I had 18 units.

Also, if you get past community College and transfer to university, you usually end up doing better and working harder.

Whatever you do, do not fall for the fucking computer repair meme.

>Every client is old as fuck
>They always sit behind you
>"What are you doing now?"
>"Is it fixed yet?"
>Their computers take 30 minutes at least just to fucking start up
>They don't shut the fuck up
>Always argue over the charge of your services even though they agreed to the price before hand

I once spent 6 hours cleaning some old dumb cunt's computer for a mere $100 and after 6 hours, I just didn't have the patience to argue with her. She insisted that I figure out a way to get her Quicken 1999 working so she could do her taxes on it. Upgrade? Nope, she liked 99... for some reason. She had like 50+ gigs just in her temporary files folder. Fucking nightmare.

Employers just want to know if you're a decent person and not some junkie or whatever.

I'm actually a UPS driver

The legal weed industry has gigantic fucking potential in terms of revenue. It's why one by one states are legalizing it. Government can't ignore how much tax they make.

Nice lie frogposter.

I thought kitchen work was where exconvicts and recovering junkies go to get hired?

To piggyback off of this, firefighting is a field that has some notoriety for grandfathering. My cousin had to wait many years to finally get a chance at a station near where I live now. Most of the other stations in the province I live in are all family businesses at this point.

From sitting around all day?

>But it's ok, user. Want your blanky so you can continue about fee-fees working with computers?
lmao, my life hasn't been stressful since I was a little kid trying to deal with my parents screaming at each other. I just think you're a faggot. If feeling like you get to be an arbiter of what other people are allowed to be stressed over makes you feel better about your life though then more power to you, I suppose everybody needs a way to cope.

>TFW weightlifting NEET
>TFW fake a big smile, but give a nice meaty handshake that nearly crushes their feminine hands
Worked I guess, I work for a major hospital in Maine as their EKG tech.

damn dude at that point just install CCleaner or some shit and automate it. does sound like a fucking nightmare tho

Man, I see IT like being the guy you call when you can't run a program on your workstation, which is why they inflate the entry requirements for all the other open positions

the smoke and carcinogens. some of the carcinogens are absorbed through the skin.

>IQ doesn't matter, unless you're below average
Well I guess I'm a literal retard then, though I did software engineering. Literally cannot wrap my head around programming.

and then starting fires to justify their career choice

don't think I don't know how firefighters think, I don't trust any of them

Well not in every establishment. Most employers don't want to take that risk.

I did... it took an hour while I was doing other stuff. Old people click on literally everything.

absolutely disgusting

Eh, everything gives you cancer eventually if you don't die from a random armed robbery one day. That dream is dead for me and I never bothered with career option 2, so I'm wasting time trying to find that when I'm nearly 30

Depends on what kitchen. If you're in some shit hole then yes it's mostly druggies and ex convicts. If you're in a place that has class then they want someone that's decent.

As a student doing CSN, this is a nightmare scenario. I never want to work with old people on old-ass machinery. I'm hoping security or network administration are survivable options.

Bunch of incels in here.

If any of you are in Miami and want an IT job hit me up

Just got my associates degree in IT and A+ cert from my local community college.

What now?

What about people willing to relocate to Miami? No kids or obligations here.

no its early cancer. dont be stupid

Mine just has shitty kids and foreigners, fuck me I wish I was retarded so they were someone else's responsibility.

what's the scope of the job and how much does it pay? because I live in fort lauderdale and it's already expensive as fuck living here

>tfw work as a vertical operator
>Literally have my life hanging by two ropes on the regular
>Despite having worked under awful weather in an oil rig, hanging above miles of ocean, no job I've done in this field has ever come close near the stress I had when I worked as a postman for a year
Seriously, fuck that shit. Fucking slave-work tier job.

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Start searching indeed.com and Glassdoor for vague job postings

You do help desk until you can get a job elsewhere.
>A+ from the CC
I was supposed to get a voucher for the Security+ exam from my CC, but they never gave it to me.

>hit me up
>no info

what did he mean by this

Apply for help desk while working on your Net+.
Growing from your help desk while working on Sec+
Applying for either infosec or networking while working on your CCNA R&S/Security. Or go into cloud work. IT is pretty vast dude.

user, you're on Yea Forums; stupid is as stupid does. I just wanted to be a fucking firefighter instead of a mass transit employee like the rest of my family.

IT are the subhumans of corporate world. Only followed by human resources then literal trash

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Explain more.

Sent him a PM, user.

HR... every company I have ever been in somehow finds the shortest and fattest black women to work in this position.

>no job I've done in this field has ever come close near the stress I had when I worked as a postman for a year
The fuck? I thought postmen just go around streets putting letters in the right numbered door.

shut the fuck up about disparaging v. get over being a fucking firefighter, its a shit and stupid job

I can agree with this, at least we understand memes tho

>25 years old
>5 figures
You fucked up. Might as well end your life now.

Post info, faggot.

I'm going to be working help desk for the rest of my life and I'm okay with that since I'm going to be single forever and have not much expenses.

>be Mercedes head-lot porter
>make 13 an hour
>7AM-4PM shift all week
>2 days off
>plenty of time for vidya
welcome to casual life bros.

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I work research and it requires some programing but I still vidya however I did enjoy it more working a lower class/no job. I think the thing is vidya sometimes gives you the feeling you're accomplishing something but if you have a niceish job you don't crave the feeling as much.

>Firefighter is a shit and stupid job
>FDNY Fire Division is $52k starting, $120k after 5 years, 3 day work weeks, city employee and benefits, and all of the usual respect and status of being a firefighter
But it's ok, like I said I'm past the age cutoff because they like to play games. So I'll find something else to do until I retire or die.

Fucking this, I was in IT help desk for 11 years before training to be a developer. Despite finishing with honours I didn’t even bother interviewing for jobs because by the time I finished my program and internship I came to the realization I fucking hate computers and hate dealing with people about computers. I’ve been a NEET ever since. Despite the unsecured debt I’ve never been happier. I just need to find a comfy no brain low effort line of work for when my credit runs dry.

>be black
>no college degree
>get A+ cert because I know how to assemble a computer and operate windows
>apply for IT job
>get hired on the spot with minimal questions asked

Thank you diversity workplace laws and SJWs.

nigger

>respect and status
I know a few firefighters. I'm a phd. they are assholes and bad people, and get unfortunate cancers. get over it

w-what about 28 year olds making 50k

asking for a friend of course

They can't even do that correctly.

>be IT manager
>some nigger walks in for a job
>offer him peanuts and he just says yes yes yes
>cheap labor and govt subsidies for muh diversity acquired
feels ogod

This is basically me.

based and AApilled

I work as a chef in a fine dining establishment and i have had enough of the food industry. I hate it so much. I have the opportunity to go work on the grounds crew at one of the nicest golf courses in the state or work at an office for a construction company that my friend works at. What should i do? I need to get the fuck out of this kitchen before i lose it.

>I had been smoking meats for 5+ years and the owner who's been smoking meats for 20+ years

This sounds so gay

All the ones I know are in good shape and are constantly on vacation

I got rich enough to never have to work again, sit alone in my empty house and play russian roulette once a week. Money doesn't fix being a depressed sperg sadly.

Yeah bro you put the ethernet cables into the ethernet ports and then screw the screws in. Ur a rele smart guy!!

Falseflag

I hate the current job market.

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>Being unironically homophobic on Yea Forums

Yeah if you get some good boots your pain will most likely go away. I haven't bought a pair in a while so going to /k/ and asking in like their enlistment or a boot thread and asking would be the best place for a recommendation since there will be a lot who have a nice pair of steel toed for working non mil. Those inserts are fine but you can get one made for your feet specifically, and then the other thing is that you can put moleskin in your boots around the back and ankle areas or even top of the toes to make is softer on your skin. The amount of people wearing shitty shoes at any job where you stand is unreal, getting a nice pair of work shoes or boots really makes your day easier. Always have to tell my employees the reason their feet hurt is because they are wearing Van's and standing for 8 hours and not using the knee saver.

Are ya winning son?

I should've charged for this back in the day but always ended up having to do it because I was "that kid who's good with computers" and it was always a favor to my mom's friends but didn't feel like asking for literally sitting behind a desk waiting for slow ass corrupted desktops to boot 85 start-up programs. Fuck am I stupid.

Being a USPS delivery guy is maximum comfy. Big packages are often reserved for FedEx/UPS so you mostly stay in your truck delivering small packages and envelopes, nobody is breathing down your neck since you're by yourself, very predictable job since you take the same routes and don't have to leave your comfort zone, get to make decent money too much better than Uber or some trucking jobs.

Keep fantasizing, poorfag. I'm making loads of dough and happy as can be.

Can you donate your money towards the rest of us who aren't suffering mental illnesses? Would mean a lot, user.

I can't even explain it. Used to deliver notices and certificates. One mistake could mean getting sued or fired, on top of having absurd workloads, a 4 hour limit, faulty bikes and directions written by mouhtbreathers who don't even know where they live.

go with friend

So far.

It's almost like you can't read. "Depressed Sperg". You're obviously not that if you need to validate yourself to me, right user?

>35

Unless you''re 10/10 can pass as a woman even without any work, there's no way you're getting work.

dude idk how you made it that long in that industry. I've genuinely never heard anyone enjoying their time in the food industry, except like Gordon Ramsay.

I'm 28 and making 20k a year as a test proctor. I have a BFA in studio art =(

Sorry but it is stressful mentally and emotionally. I need to make a product that works with strict deadlines while also micromanaging a team of essentially babies and fix anything that's broken because people dont know what they're doing. And taking on extra responsibilities does not mean extra pay and it does not mean you will get a promotion faster. Its stressful and mentally taxing problem solving for a minimum of 9 hours a day and I come home just as exhausted as my dad when he would work 12 hours shifts in a physical labor job. Physical labor is nothing your body cant get used to.

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Boomer spotted

>but I'm not moving to a place that the industry is good in because I don't want to be surrounded by minorities and liberals

hm maybe the reason you aren't getting work is because you seem like a bitter, sad and angry person

How does it feel making minimum wage?

>I applied to 200+ jobs a month
Why would you lie on the Internet?

I'm not him but it's not out of the realm of possibility. I know for a fact Indeed and LinkedIn have "easy apply" features.

100k in NYC wont even afford you 2 bedroom apartment lol and that 100k includes working 60h+ weeks

Do it I'm the smoking guy and working in a kitchen will turn your into an alcoholic unless you get very lucky and make it big, even big chefs have a very stressful time and quit or take a break or step down to being like sous chef rather than head.
I've been smoking weiners for 10 years now. Also if the first thing you associate with smoking meat is dick sucking you probably are European and or somehow not around BBQ as an American.

Why did you give up on your dreams, user? What happened?

He probably isn’t lying. Half of job interviewing is additude and presentation and most faggots on Yea Forums have shit both.

feels like making 2k usd monthly more than you.

You can’t make 2k a month on minimum wage faggot.

Tried to become an illustrator for years. Failed. No one will hire a fine art degree holder for a livable salary. I have no idea what to go back to school for. I'm too stupid for CS or engineering and I don't want customer service shit like IT

A little while ago dudes were moving to North Dakota and making six figures in the natural gas field with no experience. It’s hard ass work though and you live in basically a company filing cabinet. Not sure what that scene is like today.

I mean applied to 200 jobs in a month. How is that possible? Recently I just applied 4 jobs on internship and one of them approached me for interview, but I rejected them because I have to start working at March (which I can't because of college).

call them yourself pretending to be an employer and see if they confess that you were terminated, record it, blammo

The only way you you make a takehome pay of $2000 is if you work in one of the few places that minimum wage is 15

I personally make 18 but I’m going to a final job interview shortly for a 55k a year job.

Try a trade bro. There is absolutely no shame in going to trade school and idk why it has developed such a stigma in the US.

This. I got my Instrumentation certificate two years ago, and decided to get my electrical to go with it and spent almost every free second of my time in the library shooting off resumes on Indeed. Never got anything, of course. I didn't think my resume was so bad that I could not even land first year apprentice work, but I'm not local to any of the provinces I applied to.

If you’re white forget about becoming a fire fighter in a big city. The FDs are under so much pressure to poz up their orgs with women and minorities they won’t even look at a qualified and competent white male.

Ive been looking for a new job for a couple of months and hit 200 applications in feb.

20 hour weeks are the sweet spot. Enough work that you don't feel useless and have some cash to throw around. But not so much much work that you get job fatigue and are forever tired

Find a friend to split the bills with or get government gibs and you basically live the life.

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>live in Miami because was born here (my parents are Caribbean boomers)
>try to apply to any job now
>"""MUST BE FLUENT IN ENGLISH AND SPANISH NO EXCEPTIONS"""
>don't know any Spanish because I'm black as fucking spade
>my parents were able to get longtime jobs and retire because they were here before the Cuban migration
>can't move out of Miami because I'm dirt poor
>can't become not dirt poor because nobody will hire me because I'm not fluent in Spanish

I really don't know what I'm gonna do...

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>tfw my father worked in HR and I work in IT

>be IS/IT manager - programmer
>high paid, but stressfull af
>quit
>fond an online announce to work in some island
>work description is basically clean up the place and take care of houses
>apply
>week lader got an email asking a video of me explaining why I should be hired
>hired after 2 weeks
Best decision I've made in my life.

I have realized that its going nowhere and it is so stressful every day. The owner is a piece of shit that shows off pictures of her 500k home while im struggling to make payments on my 70k house. I just dont have the fire in me anymore and i want out.

Because liberal arts faggots working at Starbucks or a coffee shop after going to school and tracking up 120k+ in debt for a career less degree such as art, photography, film, literature, gender studies etc need a way to validate their shit life and retarded brains so they try to look down on trade school or anyone not going to school because they didnt waste time and money only to end up worthless

>55k
holy shit, can you even eat with that? I mean, non-shit food, like truffles and caviar, you know daily necessities.

I don't plan on living in Manhattan, user. Also housing lotteries have a small percantage of preference towards city/ state/ federal agencies here. Nice to know out-of-towners know absolute shit about living here.

Anywhere but NYC or LA you can buy a nice house with 55k a year

Well... You could try to learn Spanish?

kek

I know you're joking but 55k is pretty comfy in pretty much everywhere that's not on a coast.

Mind explaining the job in more detail user?

honestly sounds pretty based. I've thought about doing something like this after I saw a video on being paid to take care of cats on an island or some shit. Seemed ridiculously chill.

Pretty much. I’m in Nashville and if I save up a year and buy a house it will be a great investment as Nashville is a super fast growing city.

I'm Latino actually. Full-blown spic. They probably didn't take me because of my erractic job history; I jumped jobs solely got better pay and apparently most places don't like that.

Listen to Spanish word training while you sleep and watch stuff with Spanish audio

nl.kaseya.com/about-us/careers

IT Support Specialist

40k salary, let you drink beer on fridays

Its a helpdesk job but its also an IT job as we sell IT software

>had a guy walk into the shop saying his Laptop doesn't work
>he explains to me that he needs a new mouse because web pages aren't loading
>Try to tell him that your mouse has nothing to do with how fast a web page opens
>Flat out tells me im wrong
>Try to explain why getting a mouse will fix nothing, thats not how it works
>He starts getting pissy because clearly 90 year old boomers know more about PCs than me
>Just sell him a mouse and send him on his way

Customer entitlement is such a huge issue in america. They all think they know more than the people they go to for help.

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Man your timing could not be better. I keep hearing how the midwest is booming and even got offered a job in KC but like, I don't really enjoy the thought of driving 3 or 4 hours between big cities. Is the midwest actually booming from what you've seen?

>recording conversations without permission
Brilliant user.

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Not only does this not happen, but in a few decades creativity-based work and informatics will make up 95% of the jobs.

Most people working min-wage are STEM/economics/law students in the process of getting their careers. Liberal arts usually go for private tutoring which is even worse than being a barista since you almost always don't work under contract and it doesn't make for credible job experience.

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If I mention I saw your post on Yea Forums will I get automatically hired

>I know you're joking
I've seen enough Californians whose minds are so warped from their hellscape that they are 100% straight faced saying similar shit

Not sure I don’t consider Nashville Midwest, but Nashville is a growing tech city as both google and amazon are moving in as well at a massive amount of healthcare companies because of the proximity to Vanderbilt.

If you wanna do tech but don’t wanna live on coast nashville, atlanta, Austin, or Dallas are nice places.

No, normies run the place.

If you agree to not be weird I will vouch for you, 100% chance you get hired and I get 2,000 hiring bonus.

I'm only alive because I'm too tired to kill myself. Fuck manual labor.

It’s not illegal in many states.

>go to school for graphic design
>STEMfags keep saying it's a waste of money
>graduate
>immediately get hired as a technical illustrator in the oil industry making $45 an hour
>it's a remote position so I can work from home, set my own hours, play vidya and jerk off to anime tiddies whenever I want
>company is full of old people who can't into technology so I also set up our cloud storage/accounts system
>guaranteed job security for life

lmaoing at everyone who fell for the STEM meme, have fun being replaced by Pajeets and automated out of your career in the next decade

>nashville, atlanta, Austin, or Dallas
Yeah but then you're surrounded by the same pozzed people that make up the coasts.

Yeah it's a tech job, and sorry I've literally never been through the middle states of the US. I've always lived on the east coast so I'm not sure what to call those areas.

Have you never been to Dallas or Nashville?

Atlanta and Austin are getting pretty bad though.

To be fair though, have you ever asked a woman at AutoZone a question and been immediately rewarded with the sound of their brain shutting down?

Nope, just got out of subway and walking to work right now. Pic related.

You just didn't work hard enough, that's the simple truth. You can't wrap your head around shit? Did you study it super hard? If not, email teacher, go to lab, seek a tutor (that the school usually pays for), ask other students. When at a real job, you're going to have to use the resources they provide you in the same way.

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sallaD?

Lmao enjoy being replaced by Sargur Guptar the man on fiverr taking your job. Hardware and software for anything more than a simple website will never be able to be automated

>Any software job
>Job secruity

Lol

Nashville east is considered Appalachia. It’s different from the Midwest.

Just hang in there bros, financial collapse is coming soon to free us from wagecuckery

best thing about having a PC is playing new games as well as old classics on emulators.

even older classics like deus ex and so on.

We'll all be killed by looters and rioters dude.

Speak for yourself, I've got plenty of ammo, water purifier and replacement filters to last 2 years worth of drinkable water, and dried food

Austin is already there, the landscape of 6th street has changed dramatically. Fuck UT Austin.

>be registered sleep tech
>love my job
>no stress, quiet, and plenty of time to play vidya on my days off
feels great

Nice user, I'm actually considering it since I live in Miami and could use an IT job. I got an associate's from Miami Dade and my A+ cert.

Those /pol/ and /biz/ faggots have been promising me that for years now and I've got nothing. And it better not just be some pussy 08-09 tier recession, I want the genuine article.

>retards going into IT instead of getting a CELTA certification and going literally anywhere in the world to teach English and even live like a king if it's a 3rd world country

>sleep tech
Whazzat?

>implying Guptar speaks good enough English or gives enough of a shit to do 300 pages of heavy reading on a single part, draw it up, sit through a 2-hour conference call about that single drawing then make changes to it based on his boss' feedback

For just generic logos and basic promotional websites you're right though, most companies just outsource that to Fiverr.

Code has an underlying logic to it, you can automate that given enough iteration.

You can't automate creativity and the higher-level problem solving that encompasses design .At least not until we get to legitimate Skynet levels of technology, and by then none of this will matter anyway.

IMPOSTOR

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I saw that too

What kind of scheme is that dude running, I was gonna apply for that IT support spec too

>You just didn't work hard enough, that's the simple truth.
I suppose you're right. I mean I went to labs, talked to tutors, asked other students but there was a limit to how long I could keep doing this while not getting shit. I ended up being able to make a program that addedc customers to a database but that was as far as my ability went. Algorithms, data structures, design patterns, I wasn't able to keep up with all that stuff. I'm just too slow for this sort of thing and didn't have the courage to keep trying after failing and falling behind for so long.

You very clearly know nothing about software. It is not getting automated anytime soon. It takes a team of people months to make something that looks simple as fuck on paper.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polysomnographic_technologist

Welcome to the club, now I'm working for a guest house and things are better than ever. Fuck being a professional.

the pay is shit and you have to live in a third world country which comes with all sorts of negatives.

I'm not interviewing you lol. I'm telling you to apply on the website.

Quick question: did any of you graduate from a state level or higher university? If you have your degree from some no-name local college then of course nobody wants to hire you

That's pretty interesting user.
I never considered that that could be a job.

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Basically that: take care of the isle like it's your home and the houses on it, since it's a touristic routh for whole world, they expect you to speak english, spanish and portuguese at least.
Since they ask you knowledge in biology, they encourage you to walk on island to know the place and be a guide, but this isn't mandatory.
You also take care of some provisions for the houses (fix stuff broken or needing repair, etc).
The place is awesome.

Plus you save lives

t. user with sleep apnea.

truthfully it has its ups and downs, downs mainly the long term effects of night working which can fuck your sleep up pretty bad especially on off days, also its easy to gain weight and eat shit food. you also can deal with less than amicable patients. but overall its a good job if you can handle those things.

>the pay is shit
Not for the living expenses of said third world country. Native speakers of English are in massive demand all over the world right now because rich fucks want their kids to speak clean English. There are elite kindergartens and schools all over that hire people from Anglosphere nations for fairly good wages, especially when compared to the living expenses of the country. Also, even third world countries have high class areas in their cities where said rich fucks live and renting an apartment there isn't a big deal with how much you can make.

I have 2 from state level
1 from higher
And about to finish another from higher

What a fucking boomer

that's completely irrelevant and really only matters if the program you graduated from is actually well known like fucking CS from MIT/Stanford/Carnegie Mellon or an MBA from Harvard.

Even if you came from a good uni, nobody wants you if you don't have proven experience or a reference unless it's entry level.

>boomer/genx-border parents can C-bomb high school and stop there, and still bounce around remarkably respectable jobs in their 20s before settling down at one

>i need masters degree and knowledge of various programming langauages for chimpy deskjobs, and only to have the same purchasing power they did with the bad decisions they made

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damn bro nice. i have a bs, ms, and a phd myself. are you getting two masters?

>get computer engineering degree
>get programming job
>hate it, on top of that the pay is really bad
>realize there's more money in different types of programming, like web and apps
>hate it even more

what do I do now lads?

Ok GOB

>be getting IT job soon after busting ass to get a bunch of certifications
>with how much I studied, I'll have even more time for vidya
>much prefer office jobs
>maintain personal persona until I get home, then play games, build gundam models, and watch anime
>only people who know are people that do the same thing

I'm getting by good because boss likes I don't NPC it up and talk about fucking politics at work and that I do all my work at the office so I don't let work invade my personal space. IT jobs are easy money and much better for enjoying hobbies than shitty lower-pay McJobs

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I have a feeling you are not being truthful

A good software engineer is literally working towards making themselves obsolete every day. You spend a year developing, say, an internal program that can recognize, categorize, and deal with problem X. Once that's done, and assuming your code isn't so shitty that it has to be maintained on the daily, you're done with everything related to X.

Then you move onto writing a program to solve Y. Once your company runs out of problems that require a software solution, that's it, you're no longer needed. The only alternative is to keep drumming up new problems and justifying your paycheck.

Really wish I could get into Cross Code. Not feeling the world at all, damn shame.