Is there any better all purpose gamepad than this?
Is there any better all purpose gamepad than this?
Dualshock 3.
Steam controlller is good for everything.
Wii U gamepad
Nope. DualShock 4 is the best designed controller I’ve ever used.
Not as good
Worse, only good for 3D games
You mean the standalone pro controller?
The Switch Pro Controller would have been perfect if it weren’t for the lack of analog triggers.
>shit triggers
>asymmetrical sticks
no thanks
Can't stand the DS4. Feels so flimsy in my big hands.
My personal favorite.
and the shit D-pad.
Wii U and Wii's pro controllers are miles better.
Honestly PS4 controller is my favorite after over 20 years of gaming. Everything is responsive and the build quality is second to fucking none.
I have punched the controller full force, thrown it across the room, shit is completely unaffected and works perfectly.
Meanwhile my Gamecube controllers would become useless pieces of shit after like 3 weeks of playing RE4 daily.
Why would you punch a controller, you fucking sperg?
I had a logitech precision with a similar d-pad (similar, not the same, because I had both and this seemed a little bit off, for some reason the one with analogs released for PS2 was better but impossible to find) and god damn that d-pad was the closest thing to a nice round d-pad, aside from the saturn one. You could hit the diagonals easy while never doing so accidentally.
DS/DS2 > DS4 > DS3
>You mean the standalone pro controller?
No.
>>asymmetrical sticks
Only when I get insanely pissed off during fighting games. Part of the reason I don't really play the genre anymore.
And the PS4 controller is the only one I've ever attempted to destroy in rage. Gamecube controllers meanwhile would be worthless after being used to simply play video games.
My GC controllers from 2001 still function perfect;y fine, despite heavy abuse from Smash.
Stop being a sperg and take care of your shit.
Grow up, dude.
>abuse from Smash
None of my controllers ever died from Smash. But Kirby Air Ride and ESPECIALLY Resident Evil 4 just demolished the fucking analog stick. Shit could not handle rotation well.
>hi how can I help you
>Id just like this 1 controller
>alright that will be 70 dollars
DS4 has good analog sticks and triggers while keeping a decent d-pad and such. Controls wise it's the best thing and you can even have extra buttons on it thanks to the touchpad.
Issues though, the battery. It requires constant charging, and I mean constant. I mean like it gets fucking tiring. The stupid LED at the top which I have to thank DS4Windows for letting me turn it down to something I can barely notice. The share and options buttons, which need some pushing to get through.
Hurts the knuckles on my middle fingers because the underside of the triggers are too angular.
I have a refurbished DS1 and as sturdy as it feels and as satisfying the buttons feel as well, I have to press hard for diagonals to register. On the DS3 that's much easier. I don't think it's necessarily the gamepad malfunctioning because I checked that shit inside and it seems quite fine.
Never understood why when you can just buy a Logitech PC controller for like 20 bucks or even less.
I still have my GC controller from 2003. What the loving fuck do you do to controllers? That shit would never stop working for me.
Controllers this gen suck. DS4 has the retarded mousepad buttons, the hard to hit options button, shitty L2/R2, and a social media button. Nintendo doesn't even try. Xbone has shitty LT/RT and analog sticks that seem designed to be uncomfortable on your thumbs.
I owned 2 of these and on each of them the USB started to disconnect randomly like with old phone chargers. Still a far cry from "Chink shit" but not premier in any way
>stopped playing fighting games
He's still got a ways to go, but that's good progress
Yeah, i dont know why $ony thought it was a good a idea to ship this shit with a 4 hour battery life.
DS4 is uncomfortable in my hands,
Switch pro and Xbone controllers are way nicer.
Also DS4 trigger are total shit.
Sounds like it could be a faulty D/X switch on the back. When you switch between them it plays the disconnect USB noise.
The price is so steep in my country I bought this piece of shit and ended up returning it. God this specific controller is quite terrible. I don't understand why something more expensive than a 360 wired controller, which is still very respectable for 3D games, is so crappy.
I need a new controller, still don't feel like spending full price on a DS4 but I might have to go with that.
Create your perfect controller from pieces of existing input devices
>switch pro general shell shape/comfort level
>vita dpad
>XB1 sticks but with dualshock layout (both lower down)
>360 triggers
>dualshock face buttons
>no touchpad or giant central home button
It'd look like an abomination but would be top comfy.
In vanilla Gamecube RE4 if you rotate the stick fast enough during the rotation QTEs you can take zero damage.
You can even stunlock the El Gigante boss this way, it makes his grab a legitimate opening that you can purposefully get hit by for advantage. And lets you ignore all attacks from unarmed enemies, killing them for free in many cases.
But rotating the stick that unnaturally fast just destroyed the controler. Eventually the analog stick would get all loose and shitty and it wouldn't be neutral dead zone anymore, you'd slowly walk or drift in a certain direction in games.
Kirby Air Ride was sort of the same though you could tap left/right instead of full rotation so it wasn't as bad. Still, playing both these games for 8 hours daily murdered my controllers, I'd buy a new one every month. I like the face button layout of the GC controller a lot but imo the build quality is cheap and terrible and I always hated the way the shoulder buttons feel.
Add gyro and you're golden.
Fuck games that make you rotate sticks fast.
I was constantly afraid of damaging the sticks on my Switch pro controller during bayonetta.
>Shitty L2/R2
How? This was quite true on DS3, but DS4 triggers are fine. Not just as good as anything Microsoft has come up with but still.
>Nintendo doesn't even try
That's something I can't understand. They're usually the kind of company to put out there titles that demand more than just good analog sticks and triggers for Fortnite and cowadoody shit
>uncomfortable on your thumbs
That's the problem with concave sticks and the position of the analogs.
>Bayonetta on Switch
oh god I can't even imagine. Joycon analog sticks feel cheap as fuck.
Yeah I'd throw in gyro and HD rumble too. HD just because it's inoffensive and sometimes adds to the game, no reason not to have it if we're being picky.
Fuck, I'm not putting the effort to mistreat controllers in single player games. Only if I'm playing something multiplayer against someone. I refused to play things like Mario Party on the N64 because of that bullshit.
I went through a phase of buying "New And Official" DualShock 4 controllers off Ebay for like $30 apiece. Open a case, take pictures of all the defects (dodgy transfers, cheap plastic with poor moulding), the obviously fake box (if it comes with one) and a screenshot of the serial number put into the troubleshooting section of the site, showing it can't be verified.
I've had 5 refunds so far, 2 of which I didn't even need to send back the controller because they didn't want to pay return postage.
I'm cleansing the pool of fakes one controller at a time.
The pad's aren't actually THAT bad, but the analogue sticks and speaker are of obviously low quality, and the face buttons are a little spongy.
>a social media button
you mean a screenshot/record button right
why are you complaining about this?
I must have insane luck because almost all my N64 controllers are completely fine. A few of the analog sticks got slightly sticky from food crumbs but were easily cleaned out. The only permanently dead N64 controller was used for like 15 years and had the A button finally crap out.
And this was with tons of Mario Party and F-Zero use. Never understood people who say the N64 controllers always crapped out and never understood people who said Gamecube controllers are nearly invincible.
I still have a sixaxis controller that works fine, I replaced the rubber thingies for the buttons and d-pad. But I wont lie, I would want something better. I just don't wanna break the bank.
Has two issues.
You forgot about the battery drain light on top
If only there were an official DS4 with a hard-wired connection and no bluetooth, it would be perfect.
Because the Logitech controller sucks and the DualShock 4 doesn't.
>sixaxis
You have one that doesn't randomly press the triangle button by itself? GTA 4 is hard to play with those pieces of shit.
The touchpad isn't useless on PC.
I'd be fine with a DS4 with a battery that lasted longer. Over wireless it has no lag, at least on my end.
>Touchpad useless
That fucking pad is amazing on PC.
It's not accurate enough to work as a real mouse on PC though, it's worse than a laptop trackpad. It takes way longer to use than just reaching for the mouse.
>thrown it across the room
>perfectly fine
guess im too strong then since when i do that my ps4 controllers instantly break in half
the input lag is actually better on wireless vs wire for ds4..
>tfw have had 3 of these
>each one of them the L2 is so fucking sensitive if i slightly even move it 1mm it thinks im pushing down at full force
imagine playing bloodborne with this and wasting bullets because you didint even touch the controller or DBZF and constantly wasting assists or swapping because of that
Yeah, mine still manages to work quite good. The sticks are flimsy and offer next to no resistance, so there's no neutral position and I sometimes have to increase the dead zone for the analogs. The triggers are shitty as expected too. But the rest is quite fine really. Thing is, battery is starting to die, it's annoying to charge with miniUSB, it's starting to show its age. I just need something new without going worse. I have had a few gamepads that are plain annoying on the hands.
It was really useful when I played the Danganronpa games. Looking around in first person with the right stick was too slow for me.
I'm not even concerned about that honestly. It's pretty sensitive indeed, but it's just not comfortable. I asked a few people about it, they went like "oh, in some aspects I even like it better than the dualshock 4". I bought it and I couldn't be more fucking disappointed. I'm in the process of returning it. The d-pad feels flimsy and crappy like the 360 pad one, it's quite difficult to hit left or right without hitting down or up on the d-pad, the buttons which "just feel the same as the DS4" actually are not good. But the worst thing really, I kept having constant fucking connection issues on PC, and that's where I use it. I don't understand why they couldn't fucking keep it working like the DS4 works on PC, which is just installing DS4Windows and it's all good. Nah, instead let's fuck with it and make it a xinput gamepad that works like ass.
Oh and it's quite uncomfortable. I don't get why people say it's comfortable, it's not. I sometimes don't want my heart fingers resting on L2/R2 and with this gamepad it's almost mandatory unless you want to hurt yourself. God why did I buy this.
Now I need a new gamepad but I just don't know what to grab. The DS4 is a safe bet but god dammit it's expensive over here. Fuck me. I'm not grabbing an xbone gamepad either because that actually fucking looks like this piece of shit.
I like having gyro for those moments. You can set gyro to only activate on a button press as well so it works well for games that don't use all four shoulder buttons (or maybe one of the stick clicks). Hold down R2 and you have precise but quick motion.
I like to use DS4 for Steam.
Though, I hate it when most of the games doesn't support native DS4 buttons and instead, have to deal with Xbox buttons.
This is my personal favourite.
I was a bit worried before they revealed it if they were going to change the design but when i saw it i instantly knew it would be perfectly fine. They took the ergonomics of xbox 360 which had the best at that time, and then they merged it perfectly with the previous dualshock controllers.
8bitdo pro.
What's so good about it on PC?
One of the gripes I have with DS4 on PC is the whole DS4Windows + Steam deal. Getting both to work fine together is shite unless you just want to lose functionality on one or the other. You want PS4 native functions? Have to disable DS4Windows. You want DS4Windows stuff? Gotta make sure steam is not there to fuck it up.
you dont use it as a mouse you brainlet
you use it for extra buttons. i use my touchpad as media controls
Nah it's less precise than a 2008 laptop touchpad. Fuck that shit. Rather than use the touchpad for its normal function, the purpose of it is to have extra buttons. That's how I do it. Full control scheme on RetroArch and still some hotkeys right there available.
With the official integrations of Playstation controllers in Steam, there's no reason to use Xinput wrappers.
Not sure why people still use it though.
No horns are kind of a dealbreaker for me. I understand the appeal of classic controllers but between the small d-pad that at least looks uncomfortable to use (if it's anything like the SNES d-pad, as I used that for a good while and nah, fuck that shit) and that shit... Yeah nah nigga
This. It's looks like it'd be horrible to play with, but it feels so good.
My keyboard already has media buttons though you brainlet
Do you really have playlists with songs that disgust you so much you can't reach for your keyboard to skip?
I sometimes don't want everything to go through Steam. It's not a bad idea though.
Are you seriously implying that people only play anything on Steam?
No it really does effectively teach you how to rub your boyfriend's testicles while his dick is inside your wife with the joysticks
I hate how in the current revision of Dualshock4's you can see the light bar glowing through the top of the rectabular touchpad. At one point I went around stores hunting for the older version controllers.
Rate my autism.
>Rate my autism.
Maximum. Utterly pointless to care about.
That's completely fine and understandable, but "Rate my autism" bumped you up a few levels
This is not a problem for PC people, as they can disable that shit.
Speaking of this, which is better? V1 or V2?
I mean it's assumed generally V2 is better, but did it introduce any issues? Have people tested shit like this with both?
I honestly thought that was a cool feature. Made me hate the touchpad slightly less.
This. Only thing the DS4 does better is the D-pad and triggers. It's not worth the shitty sticks, awkward shape, uncomfortable textured finish, and loss of pressure sensitivity.
>Is there any better all purpose gamepad than this?
there better fucking not be
since I'm waiting on mine to be delivered, for PC gaming
I love how I can just pop it in my bag and it will just sit in the corner like glasses case. Certainly not the most comfortable, but because it doesn't take much space, it just werks, and have good dpad. I love how I can use it between pc and switch easily.
Shit's also cheap. I wish they will make joycon replacement. I don't fucking need gyro. I just need something sturdier than that flimsy shits nintendo overcharged.
How good is this one?
It seems inexpensive, though only suitable for 2D shit. But I still can handle the lack of modern controls since I have a 360 controller laying around. I just see a lot of people jerking off to the saturn controller and this seems just like they tried to do that. I want something with a good d-pad where I can pull all sorts of shit without getting tired.
>I just see a lot of people jerking off to the saturn controller and this seems just like they tried to do that.
Sega was japanese and billionaire when making the saturn controller
8bitdo are chinese scammers with a big marketing department
I understand, but is it that difficult to make a good replica of an old ass controller?
Even if it's not as sturdy, what holds them back from just doing the same thing? I've seen chink shit that it's pretty much as close as possible to the real deal with very minor differences.
quality control and intensive testing
valve steam controller may be a shit but they were testing the analog stick rotation for like 80 hours with a robot
nigger
There is literally no difference between them apart from slightly reinforced thumbsticks and a clear bit in the touchpad for light to shine through on the V2.
Yep, I took out this old fucker and goddamn it's still good as fuck. I don't understand why, I'm a lot better at fighting games with this than with any other pad available.
Sony tends to go extra cheap with the controller revisions. Given how sturdy my v1 is and how many complaints of the DS4 being flimsy I've seen since v2 came out, I think that's still the case here.
>I understand, but is it that difficult to make a good replica of an old ass controller?
You'd be surprised.
>Triggers are still too thin and require too much force to push down which makes them uncomfortable to use for stuff like racing games or Ace Combat
>Face buttons are still rounded
>Sticks are more uncomfortable than ever because of the idiotic textured sides and point in the centre
The only thing they learnt from the 360 was to improve the D-pad a little bit.
It's good if you have Japan-sized (manlet) hands.
8bitdo is legit.
I’ve owned 3 of pic related, at $200 a pop it’s worth every cent.
Easily the best controller, ever, made.
It’s so fucking god you can buy a dongle to use it on a PS4.
It’s really hard going from this to a PS4 or switch pro controller.
i COULD take my hand off the controller put it over to the keyboard and find the tiny pause/play key
OR i could just tap my touchpad
>find
Nice muscle memory friendo, did you use your touchpad to type out that message too?
What's so good about it? I think the standard Xbone controller is mostly excellent, aside from the shoulder buttons, so I've thought about getting an elite but $200 is just an insane amount of money for a controller.
200 isn't too crazy. I own a $300 arcade stick and that's way more niche. Divide up the cost between all the hours you'll be using it and it's not bad at all.
This, its so bad and touchy compared to a laptop touchpad, the cursor moves when you click it in for fucks sake lmfao.
I think it depends more on the type of controller. I was perfectly happy to pay about £200 for my racing wheel and pedals but that's because you can't get anything good for much less than that. I don't play fighting games but I assume there's a similar situation for arcade sticks. But if an Xbone controller is £50 and is already excellent it's difficulty to justify spending £120 for something that might be a little better.
>getting this ass blasted because I have extra controller inputs
I'm just bored
>3 hours of battery
>All purpose
You still haven't explained what's so great about it tho
What's your point?
The shit battery life = shit controller
Still all purpose though
>Is there any better all purpose gamepad than this?
Yes. In fact, the dualshocks are some of the worst pads out there. They're only better than absolute wtf-are-you-doing-tier like the N64 and Dreamcast controllers. Everything else is just better.
Yeah literally anything without a touchpad
The fuck nigger?
My all 4 of my controllers still work after 18 years and heavy abuse
People use the touchpad for extra buttons
I'm sorry you're a buttonlet
Best there ever was the x360 one. While the button positioning is fine on the ps controllers, I feel like theyre too small in my hands. The x360 and xOne controllers are way firmer and nicer to hold, got em both for pc.
At that point I'd just buy a scuff controller
Good for everything as long as it is Civ. It is missing a stick.
I have a Logitech dual action which I bought in 2009 and this shit outlive my Xbox 360 controller.
I would say this but the d-pad would get stuck and register shit I didn't want.
I agree with this user. When I use the xbox 360 one. It fits nicely in my hand and from the first use I liked it. Curved trigger buttons are easier to press. Analog being a bit higher is also comfy. The ps3 one seems too small. The handle end in the middle of my palm. Pressing L2 and R2 buttons is not as easy. Overall I have a feeling that it forces the change of elbow position. When it comes to xbox one it seems to be designed to be held with your elbows close to your body (hence the analog being higher and longer handles), whereas the ps one expects you to have your elbows wider (or just bend your wrists more).
Yeah, the Steam controller, or a hypothetical controller with a trackball replacing one of the analog st*cks.
The PS3 controller does some things well, some things terrible. The triggers are clearly the fucking worst, but fuck me I have like 15 controllers and I can't replace it with anything else. I've been looking for alternatives that can be better for me and I can't seem to find one. I bought 4 controllers since I got my ps3 controller and I'm still using it for everything while every other controller is gathering dust.
It actually has one stick too many.
Won't let this die, I'm sure there are more cool gamepads out there
I love my ps4 and ds4
That's a mixed up collection if I've seen one