Can we agree that as flawed and incomplete as it was that XV was still a pretty good game and wasn't a trainwreck like...

Can we agree that as flawed and incomplete as it was that XV was still a pretty good game and wasn't a trainwreck like XIII?

Also, KH3 is great and I can't wait to play DMC5. Barry is a fucking faggot.

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No, KH3, FF15, FF13, FF12 & DMC are all fucking irredeemable garbage

YEEEEEP

Well aren't you a buzzkill.

Someone has to be objective & honest on this board

FFXV is a fundamentally flawed game in almost all aspects and can only be fixed by a full game overhaul.

I completed it only once when It launched,what did they exactly change?

XIII wasn't a trainwreck. It was actually finished. Both games are bad, but XV is the actual trainwreck.

Yes I agree, but at the same time I wouldn't completely dismiss it as a bad game either. Final Fantasy XV is a diamond in the rough with a ton of potential that unfortunately got squandered.

The only good thing about this games was the music.

nope XIII left it after a few hours,XV completed it in a few days I wanted to get back to the game after each play session

XV had an absolute fuckload of squandered potential. Every once in awhile you notice something grand, then the game immediately shits right in your mouth.
It's definitely a looker, though.

What? No.
FFVX is irredeemable shit.
FF13 at least puts the missing story shit in an archive you can read.

XV makes you buy movies and DLC and 40GB patches and shit to see things that they should have shown you day one.

It's actually WORSE than 13.
13 at least has some cute girls in it.
This is fujoshit bait and it's terrible.
There isn't even any decent porn of Cidney. That's how bad it is.

no its a big piece of shit
most disappointing game of my life
worst story in a AAA rpg i have ever seen

Nah dude. XV may be incomplete, but XIII and its sequels were just bad games, period. In fact, the majority of XV's flaws and its development hell along with that of Kingdom Hearts III can be blamed on the XIII trilogy since Nomura and the majority of the dev teams working on the game were constantly diverted and forced to help develop the XIII Trilogy. Blame Motomu Toriyama's pink haired Mary Sue waifu Lightning and her shitty games for why XV's development got fucked.

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No, I totally agree and I get you. I fucking hate the game but only because it feels like they couldve made a great fucking FF game but completely squandered all the potential it had in the final product.

Both of them are shit desu.

nope

KH3 was poo
poo story mostly

Exactly. It could have been so much better.

Keep telling yourself that Barry.

>but XIII and its sequels were just bad games, period

So is XV.

honestly no
gameplay is a fucking wreck, story is as butchered as the world map, development hell bastard child unfortunately
damn good eye candy, but that's square thing since psx era, they don't get that many points for just that, like xiii also didn't

Nobody cares, you illiterate dipshit.

FFXIII got 2 sequels, and those sequels gave us one the best combat systems (LR) and OST (XIII-2) in the series. Like it or not, those 3 games have a story.

There is almost no story in FFXV and everything that happens is NOT showed on the screen. The game was so bad that they had to cancel DLCs and remove Tabeta. He won't work on another FF game in the near future.

Whats your problem idiot,is Lighting you waifu or what?

>XV-kun still this desperate

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>Can we agree that as flawed and incomplete as it was that XV was still a pretty good game and wasn't a trainwreck like XIII?

I only played the base version of FFXV (time played was Dec 2016 to Feb 2017) and I found it to be very mediocre.

At least XIII felt like a better and complete game compared to XV. XIII was still a mediocre game.

He's evading bans. This is one of his shitposts where he is trying to claim that KH fans are driving a wedge between the bromace of the FFXV fans and DMC fans. No such bromance exists

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I've not played KH3 but FFXV certainly has some redeeming qualities. However, I'm not sure that it was pretty good considering that the core combat was pretty shitty overall and the story was not conveyed well in game because they decided ahead of time you would need a movie, an anime, and 7 dlc's to get the full picture. Despite that, the character interaction was pretty good at points and there were some great things in there. The monster design was pretty nice and I loved the sewer dungeon as a concept, it follows so naturally from an urban fantasy setting that I'm amazed I dont see something like it all the time

>FF13 at least puts the missing story shit in an archive you can read.
The Datalogs were the worst part of XIII's story and lore since pushing all the context to just plain text made the story make no fucking sense. This is combined with its dogshit gameplay and completely one-dimensional and unlikable cast of characters. These are problems attributed to the developers and the director Toriyama.
>XV makes you buy movies and DLC and 40GB patches and shit to see things that they should have shown you day one.
I agree that that's a huge fucking problem, but even with Kingsglaive and the Episodes taking chunks out of the story you can still figure out what's going on. These problems are more to blame from the meddling of Square Enix's top executive board. Tabata gets a lot of flack, but he's more the fallguy if anything.
>13 at least has some cute girls in it.
13 has shit waifus. If I want cute girls and good waifus, I'll play Persona 4 and 5, which are games that are actually good.
>This is fujoshit bait and it's terrible.
Fujo pandering aside, Noctis and his boyband were at least well-written and likable characters unlike those of 13.
>There isn't even any decent porn of Cidney. That's how bad it is.
You're not looking hard enough.

XIII-2 AND LR are both a million times better than XV on their own.

Didn't Tabata run away from Square Enix to make his company
Poor guy, had to wrap up the mess made by Nomura and made It decent one month
It could've end up like Sonic 2006, and despite being a half-baked mess it's functional
Say what you want about XV, but Tabata Is honestly one big madman that I will never end to respect

But to play XIII-2 and Lightning Returns, you have to play the komodo dragon shit that is XIII-1. NOBODY WANTS TO FUCKING DO THAT.

OP here. I'm not that faggot Barry. I'm admitting XV's problems while still remaining positive. What's wrong with that?

im a big kh fan, kh3 was good fun but felt almost as incomplete as ff15 did. if kh3 gets the same dlc treatment that ff15 has gotten i will be happy (a final mix would be lush)
desu when it comes to ff15 the first third was fantastic, the freeroam was comfy as fuck, but as soon as you leave that big open world the game quickly falls to shit.

>XIII wasn't a trainwreck.
Say what you will about every mainline title before XIII, but I completed them all. XIII was the first time I just fucking dropped a Final Fantasy game.

I'd much rather replay 13 over 15. Honestly the combat was much better.

You dropping it doesn't mean anything. Just your own subjective experience.

I just wanted comfy 4 bro roadtrip shenanigans. There isn't enough of that in vidya.

I wanted to explore more than 2 small map areas, one of which was already included in the demo.

Nomura got constantly interrupted by the top brass and was forced to help with the XIII Trilogy's development, on top of having whacky ideas like wanting XV (then Versus XIII) to be a fucking musical. Finally Nomura got taken off XV to focus on KH3 and VII Remake, while Tabata took over and was the fall guy for XV's flaws. Blame Motomu Toriyama and the incompetence of Square Enix's top executive brass for why XV got fucked up.

Okay that would have been nice yes, but the roadtrip should have mattered more.

holy fuck the overworld was the most disappointing part

You're kidding, right? XIII's combat was boring and repetitive as fuck and had horrible level design, and painfully annoying and long unskippable cutscenes. I'd rather eat shit than play XIII again.

Yeah XIII's combat is a very tight experience. Even some of the storyline bosses late game require you to really switch up your paradigms and focus on certain things.

For example I remember ProudClad forced me out of my safety shell and required me to bum rush stagger him asap. That was cool.

Me too. I didn't bother completing XIII. I just dropped it.

>XIII's combat was boring and repetitive as fuck

Exact same can be said about XV's. I actually remember finding some challenge in XIII at maybe 2 or 3 points in the game. Never found an ounce of challenge in XV.

Yeah I bet you love eating shit, Barry.

That obviously isn’t you then

I dropped XV when Luna died and the game acted like we should care. I sold it and have never touched it since. I actually managed to force my way through 13. Both games are dog shit in my opinion.

I'm not Barry you fucking faggot. XV was a mediocre disappointment but XIII was much worse.

XIII's combat is much better than XV's mess of an attempt at being an ARPG. That doesn't make XIII's combat good, just better.

I thought XV was a step in the right direction in terms of gameplay and the world itself bracketing away from the rest of the game for a second was fun to be in. The art style could be good at times, but it also felt really muddled you can't have classic Final Fantasy Amano'isms and realism. This has been a problem with the series since VII. The dudes were fun to hangout with, but the story was just lame and relied too much on secondary sources which was dumb to rely on with this game because the financial failure of this could have tanked SE for good.

I'll take a consistent hallway over a half-assed open-world. Guess that's what it means to not be a zoomer.

>I thought XV was a step in the right direction in terms of gameplay

Then you should fucking neck yourself.

>disappointment
>he actually had expectations for XV

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FFXV did a lot of small things right that I want to see in FFXVI, but the overall picture ain't pretty, mainly missing the feeling of a coherent, lively world, cohesive story, memorable cities and areas as well as the feeling of embarking on an epic fantasy adventure.

Already planning on it. Before I do my one mission in life will be to give this game a dick sucking review.

>I thought XV was a step in the right direction in terms of gameplay
how? even if you're one of those zoomers who thinks action-based is automatically better than turn-based, it's still a massive step back from crystal chronicles, explorers and even tabata's own type-0 in that regard. the latter two are very flawed games as well, but at least they aren't "hold o to win" movies.

XIII is a solid game despite being extremely linear. XV is just a mess. Just way too many cooks in the kitchen and the man in charge had no fucking idea what he was doing. I still laugh at that embarrassing Microsoft E3 demo where Matt plays like absolute shit.

13's gameplay is worlds better than 15's

Currently playing XIII-2, I hate the fetch quests but overall it is better than XIII

The combat is one thing but I also mean the world exploration, the way cities work and how eating food and all that makes the world feel more alive than previous FF's. A step in the right direction doesn't mean "They did everything flawlessly omg I lubb it." I think most of those games are hold button to win games so I don't really see the distinction you see in these titles and seeing as most people praise the combat in Nier and it's even easier than this game I don't see why this would get people riled. I would rather have an easy game that makes combat trivial but has other engaging aspects of it albeit XV didn't have enough of that, than a combat system that is complex and clunky and gets in the way. In my opinion most 3D RPGs have been a disappointment in combat both eastern and western so I don't think it's a big knock against this game for it to be simplistic in this way.

>Ardyn was wasted in this game, and will forever be trapped by it

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FFXV was so fucking bad it made me download FFXIV out of sheer desperation.

And guess what? This dumb fucking catgirl MMO is already miles better and I haven't even gotten my first class to lvl 35 yet.

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The world was garbage though.

Maybe, but you're not that person
You're just a shitty contrarian that we have a lot of

The cities were trash. There was one city on the actual world map, and its fucking tiny. The other city is a completely different section and needs to be loaded in. If you think just eating makes a good world map then you should shut the fuck up.

This.Final Fantasy hasn't seen a good game in ages.

It hasn't been good since 7.

That's a bit harsh, 9 was pretty good and 10 was definitely a video game, at least.

today i will remind them

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It was pretty bad

basically you have everything you'll need except Armiger from the very beginning and as such combat never progresses

the story itself is very poorly written though it is clear it was originally much better before it got condensed into the current version as the world has a great deal of side detail which probably had the most work put into it

It is also clear that Versus XII was basically the uncondensed version of this with some major alterations to character roles fucking up the morale of the story

XV took only a single step in the right direction by ditching complete linearity. In saying that, the world map was terrible, and so was the linear second half. Just a mess of a game that tried to be too many thinks and succeeded at none.

They're both okay at the very best. 7 was the last notable FF.

> Noctis and his boyband were at least well-written and likable characters

>likable
Sure. If you're gay.

>well-written
Objectively fucking false.

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Reminder to ignore XV-kun's walls of autist.

I don't think XV deserves all the hate it gets. I understand it has a lot of flaws but for the most part I enjoyed it.

FFT

XIII and XV were both snoozefests. Fucking even Infinite Undiscovery is better, and that's fucking sad.

It was pretty bad plotwise, but honestly this game looks like fucking goty compared to the piece of literal trash that is kh3.
I've never had the displeasure of playing through a more pathetically phoned in and disappointing sequel

Good, but nowhere near as godlike as 7.

A-at least we're finally getting his DLC r-right?

Yeah definitely. Game isn't a 10/10, but I enjoyed playing it, and the ending alone knocked it up 1 or 2 points.

Nobody cares about your subjective experience. The game is objectively bad and does deserve the hate for being an example of how you don't make a game.

You mean that predictable ending with one of the worst boss fights in the history of the series?

shut up Barry

I despise people who defend either game. I just instantly categorize people who do so as zoomers.

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>predictable
Does an ending need an EPIC LAST SECOND TWIST to be enjoyable?

>worst boss fights in the history of the series
Oh nevermind, it's shitposting.

It isn't shitposting. The fight with Ardyn is atrocious.

Nobody's defending shit. We're just not delving into hyperbole and acting like it's the worst shit ever. It was mediocre, not terrible.

>moving goalpost from "good" to "notable" to "godlike"
here's your fucking (You), faggot

No an ending should be good to be enjoyable. Not something we know is going to happen from the start of the game with nothing else. It's dull. If you like it you're literally a dullard.

Fuck no, 15 was a blatantly unfinished mess of a game. 13 was a shitty hallway but at least it wasn't missing half of its own story.

I'm not even arguing anything. 7 is legitimately the only noteworthy FF title outside of XIV being a decent MMO.

alright alright, you guys have convinced me, I now would rather get my dick sawed off than play it.

Sorry for going against the hivemind.

>XIII and its sequels were just bad games, period.
13-2 is great, the other two are trash though. Unfortunately 13-2 suffers from being linked to them.

He's right though. Ardyn's fight was anticlimactic, braindead garbage from a technical standpoint as well as the sheer scope of it (or lack thereof). You know you've fucked up if the final boss in your fucking JRPG is bland.

>hivemind

A lot of people on Yea Forums like the game. Doesn't make it a good game by any means.

Fuck off, Tabata himself said that they had a more action-based combat system before he decided it should be reduced to "press X to awesome" to appeal to casual players, and he was also the one that pushed for it having the open world design.

I must have missed something. Who is Barry?

What? The last boss fight was FUCKING TERRIBLE. Are you retarded or a zoomer or BOTH?

>Can we agree that XV was a pretty good game
Yes
>wasn't a trainwreck like XIII?
Toriyama admitting to sabotaging it because of XIII so it is a trainwreck like XIII but unlike FF13 and its shit trilogy it was the overall more enjoyable game. Second to Type-0

fuck off XV-kun

I don't know how anyone can like either game. They're both awful compared to so many JRPGs out there. Maybe it's people with barely any experience with the genre. If you're a Steamfag I'd recommend getting Resonance of Fate over either game.

>A lot of people on Yea Forums like the game.

They need to be bullycided off this board then, wherever they are.

XV's garbage. Music is dope tho.

>Noctis and his boyband were at least well-written and likable characters unlike those of 13.
Ignis is the only one that's even remotely likeable. Gladio has no personality outside of being a musclehead, and his only character development is in his DLC where he swears to support Noctis no matter what for the rest of his days, which then goes out the window after Ignis gets blinded and Gladio starts being a cunt for the next chapter. Prompto has a bit more depth to him with how he's a tryhard on purpose because he's scared of everyone not liking him, but it doesn't really help that he's still fucking annoying as shit, and the twist that he's a clone felt completely pointless. Noctis himself is just a shitty brat for most of the game and he has no real development over time, he just suddenly becomes a completely different person after coming out of stasis.

>Music is dope tho

Even that is mediocre. The soundtrack has maybe 3 good tracks. The rest are painfully generic.

I can agree. XV might have had problems, but it also had a pretty reasonable amount of side content and the roadtrip/bro stuff was always fun. I actually liked the recipe system.

It definitely wasn't anywhere nearly as awful as XIII. That game was a fucking chore to get through.

>The art style could be good at times, but it also felt really muddled you can't have classic Final Fantasy Amano'isms and realism. This has been a problem with the series since VII.
The fuck are you on about? All the PSX games and even the PS2 games and 13 had lots of different fantastical environments to see. 15 just gives you a boring desert and boring grasslands with a crater in it and some fucking caves. 15 has by far the most dull art direction FF has ever seen.
>B-But muh fantasy based on reality
It was a shit idea from the outset.

I need you to calm down, try some sweet foods they give a buff to comfy.

>Maybe it's people with barely any experience with the genre.

It's definitely this. It's like the sort of people who complain about XC2's tropes, even though they happen in every JRPG.

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>side content

Oh yeah, I love all those fetch quests.

I'll never get over how stupid this design is with the multi-layered city separated by raging water drops and yet it's navigated by fucking sailboats that could at any time be swept off an edge and destroyed.

I like how your criticism has no correlation to what I said.

XC2's tropes are obnoxious as fuck though.

>Steamfag
People with abhorrent taste. Most of the recent love for XV is definitely from them.

>Resonance of Fate
Good taste.

There is at least some low level method and strategy to 13's combat. 15's combat is the definition of braindead.

There are several decent hunts and four entire dungeons, my dude.

>you can't have classic Final Fantasy Amano'isms and realism. This has been a problem with the series since VII.
You implied that Amano's art design can't work with the more realistic graphics citing 7 and onwards as examples (despite that 7 and onwards were not Amano projects in the first place) when every game except 15 actually had varied and entertaining fantasy environments regardless of whether it was based on Amano, Nomura, or Yoshida. You retard.

Wow, repeptive MMO-tier hunts and FOUR DUNGEONS?

What an incredible game!
Fucking off yourself, zoomer.

>but it also had a pretty reasonable amount of side content
A hundred identical hunts and fetch quests doesn't mean it's actually good content.

>muh dungeons
There's literally only one dungeon worth doing and it's Pitioss. It's also seems to be the only shield XV fanboys are able to defend themselves with.

>there are "people" that actually judge FF games entirely on their combat

By that rationale the entire series is shit

hate to break it to you, but most other jrpgs are nowhere near as cringeworthy with the tropes as xc2.

wow the absolute state of this board, throwing buzzwords like contrarian around wich became totally devoid of any signficance just because someone's saying XIII and XV are trash, wich has always been the general consensus

seriously, if you say "contrarian" as if it meant "you're opnion is shit" grab a knife and plant it in your throat nobody will miss you, you're a literal mongoloid

There is one called Persona 5.

Calm down.

I said it was a reasonable amount, not a huge amount. I'm not claiming XV had the best side content in the series or anything, but it was enough to give me a pretty lengthy postgame.

Pitioss was my favorite, but I did enjoy the other dungeons. I'm not "defending" anything other than saying I had fun. Why the fuck are you people so on edge about this game?

Anyone who defends either game in any way shape or form is to immediately be disregarded. They're both equally horrible.

Nah, XIII is a better game. XV was so fucking boring, I'd rather get a confusing story than no story at all for the first 10 chapters. Gameplay was much better in XIII too.

Pitioss' platforming was a fucking chore with how horrendously imprecise Noctis' movement is. That dungeon really brought a previously minor issue to the forefront.

I need to blame someone for this shit game and the fact that my retarded ass actually waste some money on it. Beside myself who should I blame?
>Nomura
>Tabata
Who?

It's not even a reasonable amount you idiot.

>it wasn't missing half of its own story
Yeah. It's story just made no fucking sense altogether.

>he actually played this garbage postgame

jesus christ

Blame yourself for giving a shit about either Versus or XV.

Both of them. Nomura for being an idiot without a clear goal or sense of direction who wasted years of development time, and Tabata for being an idiot who decided to make it open world to appeal to the west and the combat braindead to appeal to casuals.

And yet despite not being "Amano projects" they still aped previous things and ideas in the series and tried to mold them around new artstyles some games better than others which we seem to agree on. The problem with 15 for me at least was it seemed more jarring than ever before not just the Amano'isms per say but the fantasy elements butting up against it's weird attempts at realism. I don't like FFX at all but it least it's colorful early 2000's anime style managed to stay mostly consistent throughout the game and managed to incorporate previous elements of the series in a way that wasn't as jarring as 15's. I don't think we disagree on much but you can stay mad if you want.

True, so why not see what else FFXV has going for it?

>world is shit
>lore is shit
>story is shit
>characters are shit
>side/post content is shit
>music is not at all bad but it's the worst the series has to offer as of late
>all of the lackluster things above make the atmosphere of the game underwhelming and boring

Oh.
It sucks as an FF game and it sucks as an ARPG.

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not really. the old turn-based system worked fine, and previous spinoffs had done action-based combat much better. ffxv pretty much removed all semblance of gameplay by letting you hold o to win and even stopping the game to let you use a healing item in the unlikely event you ever got down to 0 hp.
nobody's expecting ff's combat to ever have the complexity of smt or twewy. it's an entry-level, mainstream series. but for all their faults, the previous games at least felt like actual games. ffxv is a "cinematic experience."

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XIII and KH3 were at least fun to play.

FFXV felt like a series of chores, I dropped that game after four hours of boredom.

>TWEWY
My absolute nigga. One of the best ARPG’s I’ve ever played.

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Both games put me to sleep.

I honestly don't know how anyone could like XV. A friend gifted it to me and I was absolutely bored.

you definitely haven't played persona 5. it has tropes, sure, but it's not nearly as obnoxious as xenoblade 2. i honestly think p4 was worse than p5 in that regard.
xb2 is going for the same audience as modern fire emblem and neptunia.

Toriyama and his waifu Lightning. Pic related. This actually fucking happened. He went on a huge fucking tangent comparing Lightning and FFXIII to these fucking roses. It was so cringey and infuriating.

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>have to watch a bad movie and mediocre bunch of anime shorts for lore

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>Why the fuck are you people so on edge about this game?
it's just banter m8
but seriously why even post on a video game forum if you don't intend to discuss video games

>barry so assblasted he started posting CP and Infected nigger cocks

PLEASE TELL ME YOU FAGS SAVED THAT SHIT.

WHAT

He misses his reddit hugbox.

>This game should be called "wait for your death in real time"

Based Conan had the best criticisms for XV.

youtu.be/eXJFbsQBvLw
Still gets me.

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Obviously wasn’t Barry, just some man who went through all the stages of grief. It was funny seeing him finally reach acceptance seconds before the thread got 404’d

>id rather have an empty game than a bad complete game

There was a laugh at barry thread and he started posting CP and bluewaffle and shit to get it nuked.

The thread got pruned/deleted though it was fucking glorious, he tried falseflagging as XVbro and got shit on, then started trying to say the threads were e-celeb threads.

Then started posted CP when everyone ignored him and kept making fun of him.

Also some anons are calling the melbourne police station.

>blue balls waste of time

How did he know?

holy kek

>XV kun so assblasted that he started to post CP and Gore
Yikes
Can some Ausfag report him to the authorities?
This faggot needs to be stopped one and for all

>i honestly think p4 was worse than p5 in that regard.
P4 has a better story, though. Mysterious murders are definitely more interesting than, say, hunting down a guy who sells your picture. Or capturing that awful, no good male professor because he wants to fuck cute female students, but in the end you fuck your slutty teacher while she's dressed as a French main.

>There isn't even any decent porn of Cidney. That's how bad it is.

There's that Butcha-U doujin. Not a lot though, but FF never seems to get too many doujins except FF VII, but those are still rarer than Dragon Quest doujins it feels like.

>calling Melbourne police station
Please be real

*French maid

As bad and linear and incohesive the story of FF XIII was, I unronically enjoyed it more than FF XV. I finished thirteen and dropped fifteen right after whatever the fuck it was that happened in the city of Altissia and after Luna’s pointless death.

Wasn’t Kamoshida, you know, trying to rape said cute female students?

He'd still find a way to shitpost from jail.

Any complaint that you can say about XIII is only magnified in XV, exception being the hallway is now a dome. Bizarre story, half-baked combat, nothing to do.

The one single police station in Melbourne?

How about XV's shitty jumpscare hallway?

was the other thread deleted?

Have you actually played FF12? It's pretty good

Victoria Police.

You boutta get dabbed on Barry.

yes, and he also physically abused his students on a daily basis.

He was blackmailing them. Joker did the exact same thing to Kawakami, but for some reason that is OK, but Kamoshida is bad.

??

He's evading so many bans that he might get Australia rangebanned at this rate. He literally won't stop.

FF is GAYYYYY

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Its not a terrible game but not a good one either, It is playable but not something you'd expect from a mainline FF game that was supposed to be its return to form.

Honestly when it switched to that part of the game you could barely tell it wasn't XIII, there's really hardly a difference.

>FF12

Fuck you, 12 is actually good.

I still want to complete the PC version some day, get to the Royal Edition content after experiencing the game right after the 2016 launch back on PS4 in its "naked" form, but god do I need more RAM. This shit's such a memory hog that it eats up everything and inevitably crashes.

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> He kept yelling about how people were posting about e-celebs and not about video games

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Or you could play a good game instead.

barry literally thinks he's a fucking eceleb, it's great.

FF15 meant a lot to me personally. I had a random seizure and really got fucked up and I was basically bed ridden recovering and all I could do was play that game.

Final fantasy was my favorite series since I was a child and I was excited to play.

It meant a lot to me that Noctis was bouncing back after being shit on and boxed out of his own legacy. I thought the combat was fun (and the fishing game was hilarious)

There is a certain emptiness in the game that’s refreshing, not lacking. As weird as that sounds.

Playing Kingdom Hearts 3 now and having a ton of fun. Definitely a complex story line but not bad if you can connect the dots and do research beforehand

That's just a normal day there. I'm pretty sure at least 10% of American, British, Brazilian, Russian or any other big country flags are just Australians evading a rangeban caused by some retard.

I have plenty of those. But I also have a completionist habit and a terrible case of lazy backlog.

I mean, you guys basically treat him like one with all the attention you give him.

Boutta get a lotta attention from the victoria police.

>I thought the combat was fun

It really would take a seizure for someone to think this.

Had to buy a pass to post because of fucking Sybb.

>so obsessed with Barry you think everyone is him

Wow, sounds like he finally had a mental breakdown.

I never even accused you of being barry user, are you okay?

>YOU'RE A MASS MURDERER OF PEOPLE'S TIME

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>Never played a FF game before
>Tried FFXV since it was a gift
>I enjoyed it and thought it was a fine game
Can someone explain me why do you people hate it so much? I'm not trying to defend it, I'm just legit curious since I didn't follow the development.

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Honestly, I'm glad you enjoyed it. I might shit on XV a lot but if it can give someone out there a glimmer of happiness, that's good.

Just don't be like Barry.

>Can we agree that as flawed and incomplete as it was that XV was still a pretty good game
No.

>wasn't a trainwreck like XIII?
OK. Wasn't as bad as 13.

I imagine getting cucked by XIII like five fucking times and waiting half a century had something to do with it.

Overhyped, modern tortanic mindset, but also it released in such a bland and somewhat unfinished state that it became easy pickings because few people wanted to actually defend it. Then Barry basically turned even considering defending XV into a meme just because of how batshit insane he is.

I’m glad that you, specifically, were able to find some enjoyment out of it user.

the only way he would get famous is if some fag on the farms notices his ass like they did with barney fag. even then that's moreso infamous then anything else.

>Can someone explain me why do you people hate it so much?
square promised kino and delivered a god-awful, unfinished "hold o to win" movie instead. it's that simple.

>XIII wasn't a trainwreck. It was actually finished.

XIII was so fucking boring no one WANTED to finish it, so it being complete didn't really help its case.

>Never played a FF game before
Not gonna bother reading the rest.

14 was originally a shitpile until they took it offline and reworked it and later relaunched so that's 1 biggo strike

Secondary would probably be that there's a lot of elitism in the game due to the normie flood since MMO's aren't niche anymore and people assume tanking in ff14 is hard and makes you cool (it is easy)

additionally a lot of cosmetic content is paid for and is a large sum of their income but that's just people being retarded, and the way they've treated some of the character artstyles is really stupid

viera are supposed to have hands that reach to their fucking knees and super long arms but they're just reskinned humans

I've heard a lot of people didn't finish XV either.

Would the Aussie police even be able to pin the CP posting on Barry?
He was posting without a trip, and could easily clear his history, delete the files, etc, so that anything that indicates he was that poster is gone.

>XV was fun

>it released in such a bland and somewhat unfinished state
I think I know what you mean by that.
The landscapes are pretty.
The combat is pretty to see.
The character design is pretty.
And that's the issue, it's only pretty and that's it. The landscapes are empty, the combat is just Hold Button To Do Flashy Move and the characters lacked development.
FFXV is just style but lacks substance. I still liked it tho'
Also who IS barry? I seen his name in DMC threads.

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Not a lot of people finish games nowadays. Though I do remember back when the Prompto DLC came out, Barry was doing the usual routine when people found his PSN profile and he hadn't completed it at the time. He even told me the final boss of the DLC wasn't a rail shooter section when he hadn't even finished it yet.

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We're not talking about people's experiences. XIII is actually a competently made game in comparison to XV regardless of who dropped what.

Of course no.

Posted out of order. Sorry.

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What was fun? Combat, quests, exploration was all bland as hell.

Never said you did. But you’re accusing someone else of being him and saying random shit regarding Barry.

All the mods have to do is turn over the server data with his posts linked to his IP and he's pretty much fucked.

All you have to do is accuse someone of being suspicious of having CP and they'll contact your internet provider to check your data for anything suspicious.

What a wholesome post. I have a similar attachment to FFXV, it was the first game I played after moving into my current apartment. I've never lived alone before so it was a bit weird at first not having people around when I wasnt at work, it helped me feel less spooked. I was unimpressed at the start of the game but the fight with Leviathan was some of the coolest shit I've ever seen in a game, took the game to a 7/10 for me just for that alone. The music and combat animations for that segment were kino.

So many people don't know who Barry is even though he shit up 90% of this board.

The only people that shitpost against XV are people who never played it and are KH fags still triggered by Nomura getting kicked off the game and Tabata making a better game than Nomura.

underrated post

Are you describing every other FF?

>Also who IS barry? I seen his name in DMC threads.
some australian nerd that defends FFXV so hard that he's antagonizing every other major game release that he thinks steals its thunder, considering it to be the best game ever made. he's been permabanned on pretty much every forum out there, including resetera. if you see webms of cherrypicked footage from FFXV trying to disprove arguments or make it look good, or see footage of KH3 trying to make it look bad, it's probably him because he uses the same shit every single time alongside the same arguments on a copypaste while calling everyone khkun, neithof or other names.

he's been active since mid-2016 and on Yea Forums almost every day, and even attacking the final fantasy and kingdom hearts /vg/ threads

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He didn't go to Reddit? I'm surprise.

oh boy here we go

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No it fucking wasnt. FF13 literally had half of the game cut out confirmed by Kitase, its objectively more unfinished.

B-but MUH VPN

t Barry

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I haven't finished it, I just got to the part where you get the boat. Overall I've actually really enjoyed it, at first I was a bit skeptical, mostly because of the opem world aspect, but I actually think it handles it really well and isn't as empty and barren as people make it out to be. I was especially surprised by the variety of dungeons and classic final fantasy enemies present in the game, seeing a lot of them in current gen graphics was pretty cool. I think most people agree that though that its biggest flaw is that it was released as an unfinished game, even if that was somewhat patched up with dlc and stuff it's a pretty shirty move on SE's part. I've also heard the story isn't too hot, but I'm reserving my judgement on that until I finish the game.

Kek, so even resetarda didn't want him

Done postin CP so now you're back here barry? how did it feel posting pictures of literally emancipated children and then hastily trying to delete them?

How did it make you feel you sick fuck?

Fuck off Barry.

what took you so long

It's time... He's finally here.

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Except he, not even Barry, wasn’t posting CP. All he posted was gore and shit to nuke an off-topic thread. Imagine being so triggered by Barry you want to throw him in prison just because he called some games bad.

Don't forget he apparently downloaded CP and Goatse for the soul purpose of trying to nuke a thread laughing about how pathetic he is.

I think he should have a farm thread up. He's top tier.

>variety of dungeons

Are you serious?

FF13 putting datalog instead of having the inportant stuff as dialog is a billion fucking times worse, not only that but nothing in 13 makes sense even if reading the datalog because its fucking terrible.

Anything from the movie is learned in the game and the dlc are all side stories where you learn the main point in the game by default

FF13 literally cut 1/2 of the entire game and then forced two shitty sequels

FF13 has not a single good girl you blind fuck and 13 is literally more fujobait without any good porn, meanwhile XV has multiple great doujins including a ButchaU one.

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IT BEGINS

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I was in the other thread and saw what Barry posted. That guy is fucking sick.

Fuck off XV-kun.

You really need to play more JRPGs if you think that map is good in any way.

How long until this thread get CP and Niggercock since Barry is here now?

>It wasn't me by the way guys.

Why are you so scared dude? I've already sent in my email to victoria police, and linked your twitter.

Stop spewing bullshit, Barry.
You're a sick fuck for wanting to diddle kids.

no, because other final fantasy games actually had gameplay. "hold o to win" is not gameplay.

Recommend me some good JRPGs senpai.

despite browsing only 13% of Yea Forums threads, XV-kun makes up 50% of shitposts.

Not long probably, don't forget if you live in Melbourne, Victoria to file an anonymous report, attach the picture of him flipping off Yea Forums along with his twitter.

Website btw, crimestoppersvic.com.au/report-a-crime/

Is Barry the ACK of Yea Forums?

No point, you'll just call them shit in defense of XV.

You're a moron, FF13 has no story and all the cutscenes are literally just filler and then 13-2 retcons the end of 13 anyway making it pointless
XV has story from the first fucking instance even on the title screen where somnus plays on the night sky. And all important story moments in the game are shown in the game for the main story, FF13 literally had canceled DLC you retard which was main story stuff, the canceled DLC for XV was non canon alt timeline bonus shit just for fun that was ultimately decided as not needed, and Tabata quit on his own choice independent from that and wasn't even director on any DLC, and Tabata didn't want to work on FF he literally kept saying he wants to do a new IP which he is doing

13-2 and LR have dogshit gameplay

Probably even worse, since he posts his irl information.

No it fucking isnt, 13 is literally autobattle to win and nothing else

Your mental retardation never ceases to amaze, XV-kun.

No the world is great

Today I will remind them

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Why the fuck do you think everyone is that faggot Barry? I just need some good JRPGs to play. Anyone?

>You're a moron, FF13 has no story and all the cutscenes are literally just filler
If you're going to be this blatant barry, you should work on your acting skills

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see

No they were better than in older FFs which were literally just jpgs with corridors and altissia is fully seamless with lucis you retard its just further away

you should probably just get rid of all that red leading up to the actual city in the waterway, because that's all pure automated cutscene anywho

No dude, the treasure finding, hanging out with friends, riding the vehicles around eorzea, taking pictures and sharing them online, I can just keep going! Theres just so much to do!

retard detected

go away barry

But that's better, a brave soul can at least attempt to take out Barry compared to ACK.

Fuck off KH sperg

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It's amazing how unapologetic Barry is when it comes to defending XV. He doesn't even try to subtly manipulate the consensus by being lukewarm about it, he just straight up defends every aspect of it at every moment.

>seamless
>Seamless
>SEAMLESS
If you're going to fucking lie, at least lie about things the "millions of people" you cite won't be able to fucking call you out on in five seconds, you goddamn shitburglar pedophile.

>want to dicuss XV
>just get XV-kun shitting up every thread

He always ruins threads that have decent discussion.

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At least he had a bunch of good lines in the end even though he was definitely wasted and the DLC gave him some decent scenes as well.
>That ominous victory fanfare at the end of Episode Prompto before he snatches him up again after his win.

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You deleted that CP yet barry? the aussies are on their way to your flat m8.

>predictable
You predicted that the Mysterious red haired man was nkctis immortal cursed great great great etc uncle who was literally jesus? Fuck off, the spectacle alone makes it better than older FF final bosses and no FF has a hard final boss

That samefag

Guys, what if

What if

What if Barry was only pretending to be retarded so we would all turn on XV

WHAT IF THIS WAS THE PLAN

you forgot to mention finding cute gear for our catgirl toons

>discussing kusoge

>Are you serious?
Yes, it has a decent variety of them, off the top of my head
>mines
>mountain
>forest
>sewer
>tomb
>ice cavern
>tower
And I know there's more that I don't remember. I think the main problem people have is that the art direction may be a bit boring and so the dungeons don't look very distinctive.
I've been playing jrpgs since I was a kid. Keep in mind I never said the map itself was good, in fact, something I didn't mention was that exploration was definitely not handled well and is barely incetivized. I also heard the second half is a lot more linear but I haven't really played though it yet. My point is that I've played other open world games where the maps were a lot more empty and boring, but I suppose this may be case of other open world games being so shit they make this one seem a bit better.

No it has the best boss themes, battle themes, character theme and story themes in the franchise

After years of tirelessly defending the game and the abuses that he got, why is he still keep doing this to himself anons? Has xv truly made the man into an autist?

XV doesn't need an autistic smear campaign to get people to think it's shit, user

Barry fuck off with this video already. The guy technically dies but has a pleb coin in his inventory. And I'm convinced Roxas is OP in this fight since Sa'ix fucked him over so much in days, it's relevant to the plot. Oh but that doesnt matter because you're a retard that hates other games because people dont blindly worship XV like you.

Why on earth would you want to discuss a shit game that’s dead in the water? What is there to discuss?

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There is no strategy in 13 while everything you do in XV is real time action strategy

Yes. And a pedophile.

The dungeons in XV shit over the dungeons in older FFs and you have no argument otherwise KH fag

Wow just goes to show how useless the support characters in FFXV are, cant even count how many times I stumbled around for minutes on end and those fucking goons kept running around in circles not healing me or attacking anything. KH3 was easy but at least party members can actually do something.

It was a good game, just not a good ff game.

I think it's okay to like shit games. It makes you appreciate good games all the more. Much like music and film. I just like discussing what could've been done better. Then you get XV-kun sperging all over the place and everyone taking his bait without fail.

You're going to jail barry, i already sent my report to twitter.

these posts are the worst

You seriously couldn’t figure out that “RED MAN BAD” from his fucking introduction?

>spectacle
Lmao, he doesn’t even have a sick final form.

I mean if we're playing this game, lightning x hope doujins simply trashes xv doujins.

I have no insight into the deeper lore of FFXV but this sounds like a terrible twist

How did Saix fuck over Roxas so much? It's Xemnas.

Wrong, XV has the best of all those in the entire series

>the old turn-based system worked fine,
No it didn't.

>and previous spinoffs had done action-based combat much better
No they havnt

>ffxv pretty much removed all semblance of gameplay by letting you hold o to win and even stopping the game to let you use a healing item in the unlikely event you ever got down to 0 hp.
No it didnt, but older FF being literal hold to win makes it amazing huh you contrarian cunt

>but for all their faults, the previous games at least felt like actual games. ffxv is a "cinematic experience."
No they didn't and XV literally has more gameplay and combat mechanics than any prior FF

>this autistic bullshit again
Oh fuck off KH cocksucking faggot

That isn't the combat at all because you have manual attacks with opener, mid, finisher, counter and aerial attacks, charge attacks, directional inputs, warpstrike, point warps and warp itself, manual weapon switching which each weapon type plays differently, plus character switch which adds even more variety because each member has their own unique combat to them.

Stop fucking posting outdated 2014 interview that was literally debunked a few days after it was posted.

You're such a retarded cunt that gets BTFO on a daily basis and you're a piece of absolute shit.

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LMAOOOOO no they fucking dont

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Even if it doesn't carry the ff name, it would still be trash regardless

Also the fact that its directed by tabata makes it even moreso

BOTW was both a good game and a good Zelda game.

FFXV was both a bad game and a bad FF game.

He's literally the Kefka of the game minus the clown paint, follows you around the whole game making smug whimsy at your face.
Doesn't help that the game, much like XIII, lacks any sort of strong narrative or adversaries, meaning guys like THE EVIL EMPIRE are practically irrelevant next to Mr. Scarf, meaning he's the only potential real villain.

He was a huge dick to Xion. Granted, most of them were, but Saïx was one of the bigger ones to do so.

>XV is so bad it spawned XV-kun to defend it

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It takes literal autism to think this turn based or ATB fun

Turn based and ATB is shit you TOLERATED, not shit you wanted

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Don't ever compare that garbage character to Kefka.

>that the art direction may be a bit boring and so the dungeons don't look very distinctive.
that and the layout + special mechanics + trash mobs + bosses which are the things that actually fucking matter in a dungeon instead of a superficial list of locations. we aren’t picking a stage in a fighting game here.

FFXV dungeons don’t even offer cool loot lmao. considering there are no other redeeming qualities, that makes them 100% pointless.

go back to downloading pizza barry

Leviathan fight theme is one of the best boss themes I've ever heard. Other than that I agree though.
>Implying XV's boss themes are better than Dancing Mad or One Winged Angel
Oof. That's embarrassing, Barry.

XV has a higher completion rate than most current gen games

FF13 is better than 15 by a very large margin

XV looks so realistic compared to a 2019 game.

A boogeyman invented by KH fanboys

>>mines
>>mountain
>>forest
>>sewer
>>tomb
>>ice cavern
>>tower

wow these aren't generic and bland at all
what an amazing game why didn't you point out the 500 gas stations as well

These posts are always fucking retarded. If something is a good game, then it's a good game. That's it. Anyone trying to say it's a bad "series" game are admitting that they want every game in that series to be rehashed as fuck.

That said, XV is not a good game. It's a bad game.

Donald and Goofy were the fucking GOAT in 3

It's like zoomers exist and the game is braindead easy or something.

He's the opposite of kefka. The fact that kefka became the final boss was the twist cause at that point we hadn't took the guy seriously. He was one of the boss fight of the game.

With ardyn however its all over the place that he must be the main villain since we hardly had any screentime of nifleheim and he never fought him before the final battle

I'm drawing a parallel, Kefka is obviously more of a villain than Geshtal because he is more spiteful and directly interacts with your party, which is important to build up the hero-villain dynamic.

Meanwhile, Nu-FF doesn't even bother with pretending that the evil empire is relevant, Ardyn just runs around on his own accord. So the twist isn't even a twist, it's like flipping a coin and asking you if heads or tails is the villain.

Case in point

The fuck are you talking about?

He was always looking for opportunities to shit on Roxas, not to mention what a self righteous prick he was when Roxas left TWTNW. Also he was terrible to Xion.

>KH3 has unbalanced but fun gameplay & a poorly told story that can get laughs out of you
>FFXV has unbalanced and boring gameplay, along with a story that's somehow even more unsatisfying than the conclusion of the xehanort saga

kek

>Oof

Not even Barry, but go back to Twitter you fucking faggot.

>Unskippable cutscenes

maybe it's because i've only played the steam version but the cutscenes are certainly skippable

Twice in one thread, Barry?

See No they didnt.

Honestly though, how flaccid do you have to be to actually like either game? They're both bottom-of-the-barrel games.

all this webm shows is that you went out of your way to grind your whole party up to the maximum possible level in order to make ff1 as easy as possible. ffxv STARTS with that level of easiness.

This, felt like Nomura went out of his way to kill the "Donald doesnt heal me" meme

9 and 10 are both better than 7.

Pedophile darkie from aussie named bazztek, he recently posted CP and Gore in the previous thread to get it nuked.

A bunch of aussie fags have reported him to the authorities and non-aussie fags are filing reports in some discord.

Your coping is hilarious because you cant counter anything

Cutscebe in ff13
>pink cunt says something
>white haired fag repeats it
>pink cunt says it again but slower
>repeat the entire game just switch out the mannequins called ff13 tries to call characters
That's every fucking cutscene

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Yeah, no. Sorry contrarian. That's factually wrong and history proves it.

Are you fucking retarded? You can literally drive the boat from Lucis to Altissia without a single loading screen, fuck even before the boat you could use a glitch to swim on a chocobo from lucis to altissia again entirely seamlessly

I get Donald but how is Goofy GOAT?

>non-aussie fags are filing reports in some discord.
How would one go about doing this?
I want this autist to get jailed.

youtu.be/eXJFbsQBvLw

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>A bunch of aussie fags have reported him to the authorities and non-aussie fags are filing reports in some discord.
Based cunts

Shit opinion at each statement.

Seriously what the fuck are you talking about?

Fuck off KH fag

>No it didn't.
yes it did. notice how all of the most acclaimed ff games had turn-based combat.
>No they havnt
you haven't played crystal chronicles, then.
>No they didn't and XV literally has more gameplay and combat mechanics than any prior FF
all of those "combat mechanics" are trivial when you can just hold o to win.

Cutscene in ff15
>Noctis is a bitch
>Gladio shits on him
>Ignis pulls him aside to tell him shit you already know
>Prompto does fuck all

Yeah good one ff15s cutscenes are way better

FFXIII, FFXV, and KH3 are all painfully mediocre. Squeenix is so garbage.

Except it literally shows Gladio recover Noctis and buff his defence

Meanwhile KH3 is just fundamentally broken and the game wins itself for you, that's not a good thing

>Video of someone running around an area they're overlevelled for and also needing to stop and heal every few fights because they can actually die in this game unlike in 15
I bet you actually thought this was a good argument.

Not sure thread died and I didn't save the link but you can try this site, link his twitter in here.

crimestoppersvic.com.au/report-a-crime/

Being canonically more cognizant of the deeper plot than any other character

It was a great game and among the best FF games

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Reminder that TWEWY, a DS game, has more depth than XV.

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Dont come in here and shit on a game then get mad when one of its fans calls you out, idiot

>Episode Duscae gameplay
okay what the fuck are you doing this time

Does someone have the screenshot of barry when he threatens to rape that girl?

Are you fucking retarded? Ardyn being the villain is not the twist, I said WHO he actually is you fucking idiot

Woah now, fighting TWEWY is like squaring off against Zeus, it's not even fair.

There is no good 13 doujins and the cidney butchaU doujin shits on anything 13
Plus XV has far better blender and SFM porn

>Also, KH3 i great and I can't wait to play DMC5
You are the worst kind of fanboy from this shithole.

If you havnt played the game then why are you in this thread?

Doesn't change the fact that the AI on them is shit most of the time. They barely heal Noctis or each other, evidenced by how much you have to restock restorative every time you finish a quest. You wouldn't watch a gun misfire 13 times and fire correctly once and be like "yep, works fine". Stfu.

Ardyn would’ve been a much better character if the game actually committed to making him a VILLAIN.

All potential was completely squandered when the writers revealed he was just a gud boi all along that got fucked by his painfully archetypical brother. I always figured that Ardyn knew that absorbing the space AIDS into himself was forbidden in one way or another but did it anyway to win the favor of the people. That way he’s still sympathetic to a point while also being not entirely guiltless and still a slimely, manipulative fuck. It feels like his personality did a complete 180 between the anime episode and the game (understandable I guess) but it still feels too far out of left field.

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Good fucking grief if they got bodied by this boss right away then you'd accuse them of jobbing. Fuck off Barry.

Wrong, XV is a great game and great FF

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Don't compare that garbage character to Ardyn.

The only good thing from xv is cindy
Prove me wrong

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Ardyn being the villain is not the fucking twist you idiot, his true identity is the twist which noone could have fucking easily predicted

Its harder than any other FF

I played the game just none of the DLCs. I also didnt get that deep into the expanded story just kinda played it at my own pace and put it down after I beat it.

We also found his alt on GameFaQs it's TalesRevenant.

Objectively untrue

there's only 3 gas stations in the entire game you retard, and they serve the same purpose the like copy pasted inns in ff1-6 did

To be fair, TWEWY has some of the best combat in an ARPG.

>his true identity
Who fucking cares

Not gonna lie, one of my favorite things in vidya is just cruising around in FFXV while listening to older FF tracks, though that's mostly because just looking around at the landscape while fueling my nostalgia for the older games is really something special.

FFX-2 was the last decent FF game, the rest is MMO/action garbage made for Kingdom Hearts kids/autists.

I checked the archived version of the nuked thread, and there wasn't a Discord link or anything. Oh well. Thanks anyways, man.

Do you happen to have that screencap of that KH forum mod saying that they're banning Barry for being a known shitstirrer?

FFXII is miles better than the abomination that was X-2.

KH3 has unbalanced and unfun gameplay with no variety with the most unsatisfying end to anything ever to a dogshit villain whos motive makes no sense
XV has balanced and fun gameplay with true variety with the most satisfying end to an FF ever with a god tier villain who had a great motive and actually won

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No, sorry. To me the JRPG genre in general is about the story and the uniqueness of the world and the characters presented (and offcourse the art design assosiated to this aspects). FF used to be the absolutely best in the industry in both regards and i am not willing to accept less from them nor to cut them some slack because of their past glory. If anything i always hold the bar high for FF (and i am constantly dissapointed. I´ve been dissapointed on them for the last 15 years or so).

To me it doesn´t matter if the game is turn based, ATB or ARPG as long as they find some mechanics that work. Sadly the only time SE has nailed a good combination of their menu system with real time action has been KH2.
That aside XV story is just terrible in every sense of the word. The narration and pacing are fucked up by the way they´ve designed the world map and that system of going to tombs almost randomly (heck at least half are not even story related).
Going around on fetch quests and having relationship talks with my party is my idea of a WRPG not of a FF. If i wanted a WRPG i would play one. (I sometimes do, there are some great ones, that´s not the point)
Furthermore the art design of the world is just lame. That "this is a fantasy based on reality" bullshit was just a terrible idea, as it was making the party a posse. I want to meet unlikely companions from different places with different motives to join me in my adventure.
So even if the battle system was not subpar as a JRPG FF XV gets every single thing that usually hooks me on JRPGs wrong. That goes beyond flawed for me.
Comparatively the first Ni no Kuni and Dragon Quest XI hooked me instantly as JRPGs. Both those games are proof that there is nothing wrong with the classic system. It still delivers just fine.

>XV has balanced and fun gameplay with true variety

I've been playing JRPGs for 25 years, man. They all have their share of tropes, but XC2's were particularly bad, mostly because they drew on some of the worst anime tropes that should have died 40 years ago.

>balanced and fun gameplay
Says fucking who?

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No it doesn't
Here is holding O against final boss in XV while 30 levels above recommend level and oh look you die by just holding O in XV while you win in older FFs, also see

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>Barry spends his last hours before he gets arrested and anally raped in jail defending XV

There's something almost poetic about it.

I don't know what the fuck you're talking about but if anyone did that it was probably one of you fags trying to shitpost against XV

SEETHING

>balanced and fun gameplay
>XV
Ragnarok's 99999 damage warp strikes and Lucii ring say hello

They are acclaimed for reasons completely unrelated to gameplay and also because at that time that was the best rpgs could do, they are completely outclassed today

Just hold O am i rite

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Those aren't cutscenes those are real time dialog and that literally shows actual party interactions which 13 fucking lacks you cunt

IDK, played every FF out there, even spinoffs and 13 but I refuse to play XV after they made it an action game like Devil May Cry.

Fuck SQE.

I seriously hope the next FF is turn based again.

Shut up ba-
>Not trying to start shit between existing fanbases
Alright you're good but watch yourself

XV is leagues better than XIII ever was.

XIII had to be reconned and fixed with full price sequels

That's not overleveled and thats just arriving at that area, also that's healing outside of combat not in combat like XV requires in order to not die

Literally a nerfed version of KH's combat with an auto dodge button

No it doesn't

keke when you die you can even revive youself infinitely if you have items, what a garbage game.

Why are you wasting the precious few hours you have before you get hauled off to jail defending FFXV?

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You know that's identical in the final game right?

Keep telling yourself that, Barry.

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>Barry so assblasted he starts posting cunny to try derailing the thread because he's seen how mods react to that.
>That doesn't work so he starts frantically calling it an e-celeb thread when his XVbro posting doesn't work.
>His GameFaQ and NeoGAF account get posted and he loses his shit.
>Literally starts posting CP and gore on cooldown to try and get the thread deleted.
>After like a solid 20 minutes of trying he gives up as the thread is nuked.
>Now he realizes there's a chance he might go to jail and thinks playing stupid will help him.

It's really kinda sad when you think about it.

Noctis hits once for like 5 of Sora's attacks, what utter shit. What's sad is that you spend time making these side by side webms that prove nothing other than XVs combat being inferior. The KH3 clip looks cooler/more fun than this trash.

It's already been proven that was a KH fag falseflagging.

No that's some other fag

Except that's lies and just another example of KH fucktards being obsessed over someone that has never even posted on their fucking kh forum yet they somehow think it is just because one of the fags from Khinsider that posts on Yea Forums and /vg/ tried to lie about someone shitting on KH3 being their boogeyman instead

>No it doesn't
>all four party members have 999 hp and massive amounts of mp
you CLEARLY went out of your way to go into that fight extremely overleveled.

XV is the best FF though.

Someone please edit Barry's Twitter pic over Master Xehanorts face and make the final trinity blast the reports to the Melbourne police

ok newfag

>N-no it doesn’t!
The absolute state of Barry. Imagine your game having less depth than a fucking DS handheld.

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Did anyone ever collect a list of changes the Royal upgrade did to the game? Besides the Insomnia additions.

Except the party interactions in XV are bromance garbage

>No that's some other fag
ahahaha

Not an argument

The fuck are you fucking talking about?

Ragnarok does nothing against omega and the ring is an end game weapon that barely does anything to chapter 14 enemies which is the last story chapter, its only useful against weak early game enemies on the field
aka, balance

okay barry, enjoy jail

No one asked for your input, Barry

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There's the datalog stuff, you have the ship you can pilot around now, and there's higher difficulty verisons of main game dungeons. That's ignoring Insomnia stuff like Cerberus, I'm not sure what else was done.

Only reason I beat XV is because I wanted to see how far the trainwreck went. The game had an absolute WASTE of content with that area in chapter 3 with the sheer number of optional dungeons to visit that matter fuck all to the actual progression...., and then late game it wants you to revisit them bloody all anyways to pad the game's length, but it was also optional.

XV has manual dodge, dodge cancels, shield blocks, dash dodge, parries and phase, not auto dodge, phase isn't auto its the same shit as using a shield in any game with one

You seem to know too much about how this wasnt Barry to suggest you're not Barry trying to avoid jail

>and there's higher difficulty verisons of main game dungeons.
Those were always there.

So you'd rather you can't use Phoenix downs in a FF game? Get fucked, if they didn't do that then you'd complain even harder

That's too many ways to avoid combat for this game to be good

Why are you still fucking forcing a rivalry between DMChads and XVbros huh? You KH fag?

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Oh whoops, I thought they got a re-do with the monoliths that were added.

this is embarrassing barry holy shit

That wasn't me so I don't know what the fuck you're talking about, that person was doing it to shit on the game
Youre literally mixing things up that happened to different people.

>XVfags
>bros
Flock off, featherface.

Ragnarok works on everything except 1 ( one, uno ) boss.
>the ring is an end game weapon
You can still do post game content with the ring and it trashes everything, not only weak enemies but the level 99 boss in the no item dungeon aswell

meanwhile: world of final fantasy, persona 5 and dqxi all ran circles around ffxv. all of them are turn-based jrpgs. smtv, another traditional turn-based jrpg, will also thoroughly outclass ffxv.

Answer my question, you fucking sperg.
Why are you wasting your time on Yea Forums of all places, despite knowing you're likely going to get hauled off to jail?

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I know you are trolling but no it isn´t.

Except FFXV's metacritic score is an 81 and KH3 is an 83 you dipshit. Stop making up shit about DMC fans agreeing with you.

Nothing wrong with bromance, the problem is that the script in FFXV specifically was garbage. None of the writers understood normal human interaction, or how a group of lads actually talk around each other.

Noctis hits multiple times and thats not even with dynastic stance activated which would do 10 hits in the same span of sora doing like 3 hits

The KH shit not looks worse but is worse and is literally pressing 1 button the 99% of the clip then triangle once at the end, meanwhile the XV clip is tapping O for manual combo with timed Square and Triangle taps for dodge cancel counters and combo modifiers and manual finishes, and X to jump plus an L1 and Dpad for tech and Lstick

If by best you meant worst you are absolutely right.

Exactly, it had the potential to be great but it was written like utter trash

I said no to XV starting like that you illiterate cunt which is why I posted holding O at the fucking end of XV and still dying you lying cunt

Where's your argument twewykun?

No they're better party interactions and dynamic than any in the series

lmfao, you are the epitome of this board. fucking sad.

Workin on it.

You first.

Ok KH fag

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>twewykun
The absolute state of barry

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>better party interactions and dynamic than any in the series
FFIV and V say hi

No, i just know that wasn't me and I don't know why you're saying it is when that person was trying to shit on the game, also that person was clearly on a different IP so you're even more retarded

>hitting 1 button
>implying that's not what you do in XV
How about you actually play KH3 and not regurgitate e celebrate memes like "hurr durr mash X to win". I've played XV and Noctis's combos are way fucking shorter than Sora's. Not to mention you barely move in space when striking, once you kill something you have to stop attacking an move yourself to another enemy, it has shit crowd control.

That's not an argument.

This thread was fun, but its time to bring the mods.

Who's ready for fireworks?

>No, i just know that wasn't me
Hmmmmm.....

This thread has taught me that the FFXIII defence squad exists. Why do you people exist?

KH3 looks much better than XV the visuals are superior

FFXV is a braindead masher and so is any ARPG don't even try to compare it to DMC. Only full action games have good combat.

>XIII
>finished
Do you think Anthem is finished because it has a beginning middle and end?

Your life is an embarrassment.

Fuck off KH fag

No it doesn't and also ragnarok was added months after launch not in the game by default, it also only has high warpstrike damage but weak everything else

Bless you user

This is getting really sad.
Are you okay Barry? Do you need someone to talk about your mental health issues with before you go to jail for CP charges? I'm here for you, little guy.

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I think it's just seething Nomurafags who hate XV so much that they actually defend trash like XIII. They're as bad as Barry is.

All of those games are more unfinished than anything you can say for XV and they all sold worse combined than XV did

Look user I like FFXV too but this is objectively untrue. FFIII alone completely shits on XV's difficulty

Literally the ACK of Yea Forums holy fuck my sides

Why would I be going to jail?

You're retarded.

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Is everyone ready for another ban wave?

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Yet they're actually GOOD

This, also the weapon fights in 7 are some of the hardest fights in the series. Even at max level they're still hard.

>why would i be going to jail?
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/453624761/#453656986
Because you posted child porn. Don't play dumb.

The webms’ already shown how much TWEWY outclasses XV but I’ll bite
>huge variable moveset with Neku alone that completely change up the way you fight and ensures that no one player ever plays the same
>puck system rewards players for being able to balance the gameplay between both screens, thus encouraging you to git gud at the game and reinforcing the themes of partnership and trust
>each of Neku’s partners bring something new to the table and play differently from one another. Not to mention, it doesn’t require DLC for it to be this way
>boss battles that take huge advantage of the dual screens and force you to change up your tactics if you want to have a chance at beating them
>brand system that encourages you to change up your outfit and explore different pieces of clothing equipment
And so much more.

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>you have the ship you can pilot around now

I saw this. Was there a point to that? Did they actually create other places that you can travel to on the boat?

Not him, but I live in Melbourne too, and threat of violence is an actual crime in here. There's proof of you doxxing a girl and threaten to rape her, and since you're dumb enough to actually show your face and info around here I already got enough to work with

Only thing left is whether I should bother or not, but you're really motivating me here

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No it's in the top 5 best FFs
RPGSITE did a poll on best FFs and FFXV ranked in the top 5. In Gameinforners top 300 games poll, among the FF games in it XV was also in the top 5 of the FFs in it.

1: Final Fantasy VII
2: Final Fantasy IX
3: Final Fantasy VI
4: Final Fantasy X
5: Final Fantasy XV
6: Final Fantasy VIII
7: Final Fantasy XIV
8: Final Fantasy XII
9: Final Fantasy IV
10: Final Fantasy XIII
11: Final Fantasy V
12: Final Fantasy XI
13: Final Fantasy III
14: Final Fantasy II
15: Final Fantasy

rpgsite.net/feature/6530-here-s-the-final-fantasy-series-ranked-as-voted-by-thousands-of-you


And gameinformers one.
270. Final Fantasy XIII (#12 ranked FF)
244. Final Fantasy III (#11 ranked FF)
235. Final Fantasy XII (#10 ranked FF)
164. Final Fantasy XIV (#9th ranked FF)
146. Final Fantasy IV (#8th ranked FF)
128. Final Fantasy XI (#7th ranked FF)
97. Final Fantasy VIII (#6th ranked FF)
51. Final Fantasy XV (#5th ranked FF)
49. Final Fantasy IX (#4th ranked FF)
33. Final Fantasy X (#3rd ranked FF)
13. Final Fantasy VI (#2nd ranked FF)
7. Final Fantasy VII (#1st ranked FF)
gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2018/03/19/readers-choice-top-300-games-of-all-time.aspx

XV also won more GOTY and genre specific GOTY awards than any other FF. You're literally in fucking denial.

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>No it doesn't
Yes it does
>ragnarok was added months after launch not in the game by default
It still counts
>it also only has high warpstrike damage but weak everything else
Why would i do anything other than warpstrike with it when the damage output combined with rare metal ( even without it ) beats every other move?

The absolute state of KH fags hiding behind other games

Most of the secret bosses are pretty hard

metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/kingdom-hearts-iii
metacritic.com/game/playstation-4/final-fantasy-xv
Get fucked Barry, figures youd post fake meta scores

DO IT YOU SICK CUNT

Wait a second, that's the thread i made before i walked my dog, i came back and it was deleted

Guys, did i inadvertently cause barry the shitposter to get arrested

To be fair, both KH and TWEWY take huge steaming dumps on XV.

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Do it. We need a hero like you to end his autism for good.

They have nowhere near the level of dynamic and well done party interactions as XV has

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I like XV but what the fuck is with these rankings. How the fuck is XIII higher than V on any level

>actually show your face
Wait what he showed his face?

I honestly enjoyed XIII more. As a huge FFfag, XV's wannabe action combat is fucking awful and holding down the button to attack sucks dick. Barring the MMOs like XIV or weird spinoffs, FF is best when turn-based. No other franchise has the sheer breadth of possibilities that the Job System presents in a turn-based game. XIII wasn't good, don't get me wrong, but at the core it didn't feel like it was trying to distance itself from FF.

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>XV has...no...level of dynamic and well done party interactions
True

>dropping XIII and not II
You're full of shit.

>Barry might actually go to prison
>threads will finally clear up
Do it user.

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Can MODS do something if they see this?

>ragnarok was added months after launch not in the game by default
Armiger unleashed and many other updates were added months later after launch and not in the game by default, are you saying that they also don't count?

Somebody send me the link to the archived thread where he doxxed the girl. Screencap won't work so I need the link to the thread

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Is there a gross difference in performance between the demo and current patched full version ?

I wasn't satisfied with the performance I got with my system. Also, wasn't this game basically required to be on an SSD to prevent hitching even in the middle of areas ?

Specs

8600k @ an all core 4.8
1080 Strix
16GB DDR4 3200
SSD
1440p 165Hz G-Sync display
Windows 10 - fully updated

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Yeah, because in 15 you are automatically healed outside of combat and when in combat there is nothing stopping you from healing yourself any time you hit 0 HP, unlike in 5.

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>suddenly barry's silent
Is he actually afraid his fellow Aussie is gonna snitch his ass?

is it actually a criminal offense there?

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I don't know what the recommended level was meant to be but when I did this fight I was around level 65 and I literally just held O the entire time and destroyed Ardyn with no effort. The next phase where flying around was one where I actually had to heal myself twice.

13 was passable. It had a good battle system, a perfectly reasonable evolution of the ATB system. This just got ignored though because of the games other flaws. 15 on the other hand is almost entirely dogshit. It's the only time a game has honestly made me feel offended. The only good thing in the entire game is how it looks. Everything else is pure shit.

No it isnt, it is what is happening in that KH3 clip however

You clearly never played XV or KH3

See Sora does 16 basic attacks which is literally just pressing X 16 times then a triangle cutscenes attack at the end, all his movement is auto by just mashing attack

Noctis clip has him do 4 manual for manual combo taps on O then timed Square holy dodge cancel counters, then 2 more manual combo attacks on O and then another holy counter dodge cancel on Square, then jumps with X and presses attack in midair for 3 combo attacks on O then the Triangle timed midair finisher, then L1+Right on Dpad for Apocolypse tech, while manually moving with L stick too

>barry allegedly posted cp
when if true LMAO get fucked by the kangaroo patrol you not human abo retard.

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xv literally got cancelled before it could be finished.

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No it doesn't

You fucking idiot, now he's gonna delete his accounts

Join your hearts with ours user. Also if anyone thinks they can make this look less shit I can post an unedited compilation.

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No I didn't, why the fuck would I do that and also that person is clearly doing it to shit on the game and is also clearly not the same IP as I was posting on

boards.fireden.net/v/thread/333810465/#333821747
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/334777441/#334799949
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/334777441/#334801075
boards.fireden.net/v/thread/334777441/#334800786
There you go.

PUT HIM IN KANGAROO COURT