This is so much better than 4 and that was already pretty good

tfw no overprotective wingman gf

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This, 3 is one of the best if you play the proper version.

I played 7 first, then went to 4 and now 5.
The older games are my after work games to emulate on a laptop, 7 is for the main desktop.

yeah NA version since it doesn't have the weebshit cringe

Best I can do is 60 points for the attempt

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7 is the best for me since it's the first one with an official PC version. This game is a pure beauty with tweaked effects and jacked up draw distance in UHD. Can't wait to replace my 1080 with a truly insane graphics card, apparently there are setups that run this game in 4k or ultrawide at 200 fps.

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Nagase a shit

I'm gonna have to ask you to take that back, buddy

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>arguing about what's the holy trinity
>not realizing it's actually a round table

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AC4 is so fucking boring. I'm giving it another try during my 7 first play-through and the difference in quality of literally everything is insane, I get genuinely mad when people call 7 """another AC4"""

>stonehenge far worse than even Infinity's version
>Finally get to fight Yellow for real
>mission over and S ranked after just one of them shot down very easily because the plot want it
>this is supposed to be AC4's best moment

X is underrated

I don't think anyone said the first yellow fight is the defining moment of AC4, it's obviously "They all have ribbon insignias!"

>this is supposed to be AC4's best moment

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just finish it, i did it in 2 days while waiting for my physical copy of 7 to show up. watching the opening briefing in 7 after getting used to 5 was glorious.

Pixy is right, as usual

Cum histooooriiia~

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YES / NO

...

How patrician. But 4 is better than 0. If it were a quadrilogy it would belong in there.

WOOF!

>tfw I would probably never qualify for the air force because of shit grades, shit vision, and can't run nor do pull ups for shit
>all I have are 40+ flight hours
It's not fair bros

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>fw perfect 20/20 vision and in good health
>wasted life playing vidya
it could be worse

I'm not even allowed to drive, I just want to go fast and free

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Every ace combat game is good, 5 will always be my favorite though.

I see you, Chopper.

post absolute AC bangers
youtube.com/watch?v=mS6d89z7GMY

It isnt that hard. You can probably still join even if youre in your early 30s.

youtube.com/watch?v=6l7kGPqGJ5U

Air Force is cucked to hell, I'm 21 years old and I have no fucking clue what to do in college and my "gpa" is complete and utter shit. That dream is dead son

Damn boy! You just found a soul mate.
lmao.
4 is objectively the worst. the mission design is shit tier with literally punishing players for being too good, so you have to fly in circles until the timer runs out.
>And the mission structure fucking sucks
t. ADHD ridden zoomer who only wants to shoot down planes.
5's mission structure is one of its greatest strenghts, accompanying the story and overall feeling of the game perfectly.

This is the most jammin' fucking track in the entire franchise, fight me

In honor of this thread:
youtube.com/watch?v=cgNGtGI-XbM

youtube.com/watch?v=e1sGffD8ft0&index=7

Ace combat 4 was the first game in ps2 and most likely built the gameplay foundation for a solid game, they had to sacrifice story, dialogue, characters, planes, and cool missions (even though stonehenge and the last one is pretty good),

the game served as a foundation for the crazy plots of 5 and 0, without 4 you wouldn't even have 5 or 0

More like a wannabe-fascist teen that can't handle the game having a female wingman and also being against the idea of pointless manufactured wars.
I also agree that 0 is quite overrated here, it's still fucking great though.

Am I a heretic for thinking AC7 has the most consistently amazing OST in the series?

The other games had consistently great music, and the musical high points were absolutely god-tier, but AC7 just feels like every single track is a high point.

Anyone read this?
twinfinite.net/2019/03/ace-combat-7-heartfelt-story/
Basically AC7's entire first three quarters of dev time was on tenterhooks, and the project was at risk of being cancelled since 2016. But Kono and the producers managed to convince management to continue the game
I'm so glad that we're in this timeline.

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It's real nice and consistent, it breaks from the main theme enough (with bangers, generally), and the main theme has the best crescendo in the series.

0 has Zero which is an incredible track, alongside the credit theme. I think 7 is their best work as a complete product.

This nigga fucking gets it.
Have some 7qts in return

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We know. It's just one guy shitposting and alternating between saying 4 sucks, 5 sucks, 0 sucks.

I wanna agree but I don't know if it's just me listening to 7's ost more because it's the newest.

>Huxian looking like a highschool delinquent

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>twinfinite.net/2019/03/ace-combat-7-heartfelt-story/
i hope these guys know their fans love the shit out of them, and I really hope the success doesn't get too much corporate meddling involved, or go to their heads.

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I wish Huxian got more love, she's so damn good

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Maybe, I've been listening a lot to all the OSTs recently though and 7's keeps sticking around in my mind more than the rest.

Sure, tracks like Liberation of Gracemeria or Zero also do, but with 7 I can remember practically every single track in the game.

RIP Brownie

>people always say that wingmen in 7 don't do anything
Then how come my precious 1k targets in points missions are consistently kill stolen from me?

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youtu.be/N1yfWJvrCdo
>When it really kicks in

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keep going
7 revisits a lot of 5

Try to find a 360 and a 360 copy of 6. They're not that expensive now.
Honestly PSbro the only thing your missing is the interesting take on gameplay.
>Friendly AI are actually useful. You'll see on the kill feed they'll occasionally splash someone. Can be called upon for op allied support.
>Missions are multi-phased. You can choose who to help/attack first.
>Mission phases/operations you complete determine you friendly ai strength later on. i.e. help a friendly Electronics Warfare plane, he later jams the bad guys on the same mission.
>Actual useful checkpoints.

I think it weakest link of 6 was a hokey story.

ye same. I think they just do little damage or miss a lot.

No I agree too. Like I remember the big ones from the other games obviously, Agnus Dei, The Unsung War, Zero, Liberation of Gracemeria, and then a few select tracks from each game. But in general I would spend the majority of the time listening to the climax tracks. With 7 I've spent more time listening to the entire soundtrack. Almost every single mission is great. Daredevil and Hush are both amazing on their own too but it feels like every track is a banger.

youtube.com/watch?v=Xoy2HR6vgSw

What a glorious playground of destruction this mission was.
youtube.com/watch?v=TruSmnb9wws

They really should have made it so you can at least try to save Brownie. Even just having Mihaly comment if you hit him would be acceptable.

Mostly because when you start searching for new bandits to splash you'll see your allied squads just gliding around doing not much of anything.

youtube.com/watch?v=awKApwxgV2g

The music cutting out and then cutting back in hard right as you exit the canyon onto the base was great.

Man AC7 reminds me a lot of Gundam Wing, especially the girls. Even Húxiān is like a genderbent Wufei.

I tried to save Wiseman but the EML is no match for plot armor.

I'd be a-ok if they added their kills to yours in the end.. I pretty sure older ACs did that.

confirm your kills damn it
they literally do 1/10 the damage you so that's all they're good for

I wish Count was more relevant in genera. It's nice to see him going from a trash-talking, self-absorbed fraud to a respectable OADF pilot, but he just kinda fades into the background a bit too much.

Watch your radar, they literally just trail behind you. I've seen them get kills before but it's almost always a 3v1 on their part because they do almost no damage.
It's just dumb and annoying. Feeling like I'm the best pilot in the game is one thing, actually being the only competent pilot is another.

Nice cover.

I still appreciated his consistency in the plot. It started to annoy me that they kept introducing squad mates then removing them a mission or two later. Also wish the rest of Strider Squad had a bit more development.

Half the time I couldn't tell who was talking if it wasn't Count or Huxian

Yeah, only reason I ever could tell Jaeger was talking was because he'd bring up his son.

Otherwise I could only tell Count and Huxian apart from the random chatter.

fucking hell Tabloid
you came up with stick with Trigger but you still separated and got yourself killed

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What the fuck even happened to Skald? I swear he just like vanished after mission 12, but he didn't die because you don't hear anything about that.

honestly it's part of what ruins the charm of Bandog for me
like why are you pissing on me of all people when I'm literally the best thing Osea has
at least he still makes fun of McKinley

>Follows you into battle against Mr. X
>Disappears for the rest of the game and is replaced by Count
>Comes back to say "Hi I'm Belka" and then gets crushed
I hope AC8 has a permanent cast of functional wingmen again.

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youtu.be/WfVTGwyCfiU
>that feeling that things are tough but going well for the mission all things considered
>that distant, numb fear that something is about to go horribly wrong
>tfw it actually does go wrong
This soundtrack is fucking masterful

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Doesn't Bandog keep saying shit like "You're the only one earning any redemption today" and shit though?

>when the drums kick in

/aceg/ posted and translated Kono's tweets about AC7's development. Project Aces went through development hell.
It shows in the slightly off kilter storyline and characters. I do believe Count, Avril, Cosette etc. we're suppose to get more character growth.

See, I can handle it in the penal sections because nobody wants to be flying and they almost always bail the first chance they get.
But then you join back up with an actual squad and they still do fuck all.

Bandog respects Trigger as a pilot but doesn't want to openly get buddy-buddy with someone who murdered the most beloved Osean on the planet.

Its why, despite the cheesy story (that I actually didn't mind at all but it bothers some people) I liked AC5 a lot. Having a consistent squad was nice.

It was also kinda a cool change of pace that rather than just the PC being recognized as the ultimate ace the entire Ghosts of Razgriz were at the same time so it was about your squadron and not just you.

He actually seems relieved when your innocence comes to light, and says he knew you felt different from the others.

Long Caster still best AWACS though, sorry Bandog.

>tfw really like Sky Keeper's name but he's unmemorable as fuck compared to bandog and long caster.

Yeah I saw, and I feel like they focused on the core themes of the story at the expense of characters.

I think it was the right choice to be honest, as much as I would have loved more fleshed-out characters.

PASS ME THAT SANDWICH

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Yeah. Also when Count tries to oneup Trigger with fictional kills, Bandog literally says "Bullshit".

AC5 is pretty hard to S-rank though.

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the last briefing was too good
>we need to take both drones down no matter what it takes
> We'll do it so we have homes to go back to

But the Round Table requires a King Arthur.

Who's the King?

beat AC1 yesterday on my psclassic it was fun

I only heard that in my most recent playthrough and laughed my ass off when Bandog went "Bullshit, you're still on two" after he tries to one-up my drone kills.

>fighting an su-57 worth a juicy 1000pts in mission 19.
>hit it with two missiles
>count swoops in and steals the kill

it’s only happened a couple times but i was LIVID.

I also started playing the holy trinity since I finally bought a controller. I started with 4 and it was pretty bland and uninspiring. I beat Bunker Shot and gave up. But 5 on the other hand, is a great improvement.

youtube.com/watch?v=NANyRkH4ahk

I loved that one
>Tabloid >
> Bandog

>what happens if the banker dies??
>the bets off idiot

>

I wish someone would grab all the no-name spare squad pilot lines because some of them are pretty good

>Mission 9
>Pure kino moment where the Spare squadron finally comes together as a team
>Mission 10
>The squadron is disbanded and only you and Count are left, not even Avril comes along.
I like 7 a lot but man, the plot just kept dropping the ball over and over.

rip spare squadron YOU WERE TOO GOOD FOR THIS WORLD

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>excited to have another murderer around you?
>YEAH!!!

CHAMP, WHEN YOU GET BACK TO BASE, YOUR ASS IS GRASS

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Anyone else AC5 is the worst because it tries to hard to have mission variety? Also the presentation and the story are so much worse than 04.

well the team was pretty much over when Full Band triggered Bandog anyway
and I guess the staff liked Count more than Tabloid

actually, they could've had something about Count being pretend royalty versus Mihaly being real royalty but it's clear they scrapped that idea real fast

6 is better than 7

What did count even do to end up in prison anyways

Conman. Probably ripped off the wrong guy.

Does anyone else think 7's story was dissapointing? They literally did nothing interesting with the most promising characters, it felt like a bunch of half baked ideas with no ties in between.
>the president death is anticlimatic and everyone forgets about it quickly
>space elevator doesn't have much relevance in the grand scheme of things
>little to no climax
>"you're a war criminal, but you kick so much ass we're gonna promote you lol"
>IT WAS ME, BELKA
I love the game, but the story didn't deliver.

He committed fraud

Hardly a controversial opinion.

>DAE

If anything I'm really grateful that it fell on its face so hard that I can headcanon what it could have been. I've read a lot of great little headcanon stories whether it's Trigger's motivations, or how the game could have been if you stuck with spare squadron, etc.

Supposedly pretended to be nobility and committed fraud.

Mihaly's arc was nonsensical

They wanted to make Ace Combat 5 Part II and failed.

I thought he was accused of embezzlement?

>0 is overrated.
0 is pretty much the only game I've felt that about. It was mostly ridiculously easy until the Pixy battle at the end, also a lot of the missions were pretty repetitive compared to the other games.

It's still a good AC game, it just wasn't as much of a fun time as 4, 5, 7 or even AHL.

All I want now is to be able to experience 6, but that looks to be a never ever thing.

I honestly would've been really happy with another Razgriz game, now that I think about it.

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>It's him! ...Akula.

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>It was mostly ridiculously easy until the Pixy battle at the end
I thought it was definitely the hardest of the PS2 games.
>also a lot of the missions were pretty repetitive compared to the other games.
AC4 was much more repetitive. AC4 has a ton of point scoring missions, AC0 only has a few. There were a good variety of missions beside that, yet few of them were heavily scripted like AC5.

>No return line I run outta missles and gun ammo a few times
>While "mission failure" screen you can't control your aircraft
>When Cpt Bartlett Phantom crashes into the ocean no one gives a shit about his co-pilot.
Still good game.

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There should have been cutscenes featuring the Strider pilots.

gameplay
7>0>5>6>3>4
story
0>3>7>5>4>6
soundtrack
3>0>7>4>5>6

I bet Long Caster has his own McDonalds inside the plane

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why are japs so cringe
why draw something like this

Is there a single ace in the entire series more powerful than Russian Shark Man?

>can teleport behind you
>has fully mastered Mihaly's ability to "take damage to non-critical areas"
>has the best personal theme song in the franchise
>doesn't need V2, he personally fires his TRINITY McNukes directly at his targets
>dabs on Amerifats

How can other aces even compete?

>3>4

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>>When Cpt Bartlett Phantom crashes into the ocean no one gives a shit about his co-pilot.

Yeah I wondered about the same nuisance.

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AC5 what I liked over AC4: Aircraft trees where specific branches are unlockable via kill points

What I disliked: the overcomplicated way you encounter Aces.

Copilots don't exist in the ac universe, never seen them referred to at all and there's plenty of two seaters throughout the franchise.

>not appreciating handsome Long Caster

Garbage opinion

>like 8 QAAMS falling directly out of his ass and into your face every time you get behind him
I don't think I've hated a single fight in the series more than this fucker, and assault horizon is supposed to be the casual one.

Sulejmani from Joint Assault eats Markov for breakfast. The hardest AC boss I've ever fought with.

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>called brownie
>actually white
MOM'S GONNA FREAK

He is indeed a tough SOB but there is a one simple trick to deal with him if you don't have top tier aircraft unlocked (or WWII planes). You have to switch to the novice control scheme and putting the required amount of gun bullets into his ass shouldn't be a problem anymore.

is the game as bad as they say?
even 6 gets a lot of shit for some reason

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>Do You Hear Mee??..... ANTAREEESSSSS !!!!!!

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The problem with AH is that it arbitrarily makes certain enemies invincible until you engage them in a dogfight and go through their scripted flight path to show off all the "cool" explosions and fancy action.

It's horrible from a gameplay perspective because it keeps reeling you in and stopping you from actually playing the game to look at the pretty explosions and set-pieces.

It's fine and the multiplayer modes are much better than in AC7.

6 only gets shit because the majority of AC fans are Snoyboys who are still buttmad they never played it.

What if I tell you I like looking at the pretty explosions and set-pieces ?

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Belka

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It's also extremely annoying because enemies constantly DFM you from behind too. I've watched the radar and seen them rubber-band from huge distances to right behind me.

The only problem here is the second mission with the Arkbird and its drones.

Then have a blast, all the more power to you.

I liked it somewhat when I first played it because I was desperate for a new AC game, but going back to it and playing a couple of missions after playing 7 just made it impossible for me to enjoy it.

The music is still pretty bangin' though
youtube.com/watch?v=R6hpReqjTrA

>to right behind me.

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I'm replaying 0 now since I've only gone Knight path on my PCSX2 save so far and I agree, it's really goddamn easy. S ranked absolutely everything so far.
Saying assault horizon legacy is better is fucking retarded though, AHL sucks, the PSX version of 2 is better. Maybe I feel that way because its painful to play action games on 3DS for my giant hands, but its the only ace combat game where i'm not hyped as fuck to play the next mission. 3D looks fucking good for the 15 mins you can play with it on before your eyes start bleeding, though.
I fucking love 6, i'd say AH is worth a pirate and a playthrough since it's still batshit but in a different, less fun way. There's a goddamn fistbump QTE. The whole game relies on 'dogfight mode' which is a load of shit, taking away the fun of chasing an enemy plane for some WOAH SO COOL cinematic moments. You're literally forced to use it. Also, the planes bleed oil, for some reason.
Still, it has some fun missions, some dumb and entertaining characters. The helicopter levels are the worst shit ever, but its still fun to see ground troops in an AC game.

Shame about all those retarded filler missions and wingmen constantly whining about peace.

the only thing i want to SAY
>this Mission was BS

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>Islamic European Union
Is this canon? Who da fuck made this map ?

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It's not canon. It's this canon map with a bunch of made up shit added.

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not a big fan of metal but this is nice

lmao you cant even enter the tunnel at first try

Overrated or not, 0 is better than 5. 3, 0 and 7 is the real holy trinity.

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But you must admit the naval mission in AH was kino.

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Real Europe in 2050.

AH had a lot more of a metal OST compared to mainline AC games, but I liked it still.
youtube.com/watch?v=PseSGiek5-M
youtube.com/watch?v=Dy8AS8U1gXE
youtube.com/watch?v=uA6G8HTVAU4

There's a reason I picked that particular track. It's one of the few missions I keep coming back to.

the one in 7 was way better.

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>ACX
The map's been updated since, we know the countries from 6 now.

That isn't metal.
THIS IS METAL youtu.be/KcQ5bk5bhjk

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>Fato Recta
hehehehe

Only one I S-ranked the first try, taking down those platforms was so fucking satisfying.

3's core gameplay kinda stinks.

USEA and the NW part of OSEA look almost the same.

I guess this map was part of AC6's promotional material?

>actually bother to bring anti ship missiles for once
at last I see

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hell yeah. the first time i managed to take the entire runway out in one pass was glorious. barely made it out before they collapsed on me.

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>holding the fire button to track the missile as it impacts on a carrier.

UGBs are my favourite for taking down ships. so satisfying. PLSL is ez mode.

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Yup.

I'm a bitch baby who could never get the hang of bombs. I know that in the right hands they can be stupid over powered but man I don't have those hands.

i wish there was a way to just disable railguns and pulse lasers so more ships could have more diverse loadouts

Your co-pilots are extra retarded in 7. Useless cunts.

upgrade them, go low and slow. easy.

got the ps2 releases recently.
what am i in for?

>satysfying platforms destruction
Any good webms/ vids ?

good shit

A damn good wild ride.

CUM HISTORIA

you fly in a plane and get your cock sucked for being the biggest badass there ever was

Peace mah brutha
youtube.com/watch?v=j9qcyR549cg

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THE ENNEMY HAS A LOCK ON YOU

just watch the high scoring runs

4 is comfier to max (unlocking skins, S-ranking) even on Ace difficulty.

God Job Mobius 1.

feels like no other.

youtube.com/watch?v=O1848DY5GqU

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>If you blow up the tanks and APCs before they make contact with your friendlies in Stonehenge Defense, they'll incredulously say "They disappeared!"

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>dem subtle castanets

Thinking about buying used x360 just for AC6

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Best Gameplay in the series. People shit on the story, and they are right that the cutscenes suck, but the dialogue and characters in-mission is all great.

Cut-scene story sucks in AC7 too.

Had the same thoughts after seeing some gameplays on YT buddy.

Having a good story is nice but all that stops mattering when you're in the air dodging missiles anyway.

AC has always tried to have some kind of story going on, but ultimately the series is still all about the gameplay.

Opinions on AC5 Arcade mode ?

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Fun diversion with some of the best music in AC5

Ace Combat 4,5 but I wish 5 got a more perfected splitscreen multiplayer instead.

CAN YOU TAKE IT ALL AWAY AY

Unfairly overlooked. I boot it up when I want to play AC but I don't want to spend more than an hour.

Mission 9 is one of if not my favorite mission in the series.

I liked the semi realistic missle loadout.

Hey ACbros, i want to get into the series, where is a good place to start?

Liberation of Gracemeria
youtube.com/watch?v=8L2TsEp-Nxw

4,5,0

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Emulate ACX via PPSSPP and play it on PC. ACX is basically the compact version of the all PS2 titles. If you like it then grab the 0,4,5,6.

Any of them. Whichever one you can get your hands on.

ACX is really underrated.

This needs to be updated now that 7 is actually out.

Man, that dude is a saint
I hope he can always find hope in his fanbase whenever he finds himself down and aimless

Is AC2 still enjoyable today ? (this,ACAHL and AC6 are the only AC games I've never played).

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It's easier to enjoy than AC3 t b h

Is it because of story?

No the story is barely there at all. I actually think AC2 controls more smoothly.

Why is the base commander's briefing music shit, but pops' is one of the best OSTs in the game?

Good to know. Thanks.

I actually preferred Briefing 1 at first. But Briefing 2 grew on me over time.

I always laugh at the autists that put shit like this together but in reality it's kind of sad.

Speaking of briefing music I really enjoyed this AC7 tune.
youtube.com/watch?v=Fq0EXCI2A58

It's funny, the Hangar themes are the other way around to me. Except the Razgriz hangar theme is still fucking great, just not as good as the Wardog one.

Everyone has such a boner for 0 and I honestly can't remember even half of the things that happened there.

Now 5 though. My god it had everything. You and your squad, Buddy, you becoming demons, fugitives and then uniting everyone.

Don't get me wrong, 0 is definitely worthy of being in the holy trinity but I feel 5 was way better is all. Gonna have to definitely replay the trinity soon to refresh my memory. And JP 3 too.

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Sorry to say that you're wrong. 5 has way too many flaws that bring it down hard.

The only thing I remember about this game is when that guy crashes into the football stadium and the high altitude laser plane.

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Guess we'll agree to disagree.

Nah, there's no way anyone with a good amount of sense would think that plane grinding and the equivalent of walking sections in an AC game are good.

Was it even stated how large the Arkird was ?

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Call me crazy then? Problem solved. You ain't convincing me buddy.

I liked 5 more than 0, too. But not by much, they're both amazing games.

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I'll call you what you are: a retard with shit taste too stupid to think beyond your initial "feelings."

You could easily see it from 15 km distance so its length must've been a few hundred meters.

Calm down, buddy

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H-HAYAI

How do I discover colored planes without a guide?

THIS IS THE NAAAAIAAAAD

retard with shit taste
retard with shit taste
retard with shit taste

Why are zerofags always like this.
Why can't you even explain why 5 is 'bad' other than some plane you love being locked behind the unlock system.
Meanwhile in 0 you don't get certain planes unless you play a certain style. Wanna play a knight or a merc ace with a berkut? too bad fucker, do soldier path before you can fly that.
And calling flying a plane through an intricate route 'the equivalent of a walking section'? Wow.

Imagine being a ground soldier in a mission where trigger is there to give you air support
you blink and hear a sonic boon and all the boogies are gone

>all the boogies are gone
The fuck does Trigger have against dance clubs?

I desperately want a strangereal ground forces game, hopefully a kind of greatest hits of ace combat ground ops. Shame it'll literally never ever happen and if it did it likely wouldn't be good. Wonder if anyone's made a BF2 map based on one of the operations from AC.

I have 4, 5 and 0 on my ps2, but I'm wondering if they're better off being emulated nowadays?

if you have a decent pc, yeah. higher resolution etc.

Mission 17 and 19 can hardly be called intricate routes.

Plane grinding and walking sections are enough.
>flying a plane through an intricate route
Unsung War is a featureless nothing that forces you to do nothing but listen to dialog for 2+ minutes. It's retarded and kills the climax.

4 still has graphical issues when emulating IIRC
they all run fine though

>if you fly through the tunnel in mission 6, Bandog says you crashed and when you come out the other way everyone loses their shit

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This t b h. It's just a huge pile of wasted potential.
At least it wasn't a clusterfuck like AC6.

Flying a plane isn't the same as walking. Mission variety is not a bad thing, especially when 5 has the most missions, not counting 3's branching paths.
How the fuck is taking off from a highway and shooting down the SOLG while fending off two enemy aces a 'featureless nothing'?

5 is the most overrated game in the series

user, one guy calls you crazy.

It says Europan

>he says, not reading the thread
3 is the hipster option
0 is the poser option
hating 5 is the hipsterposer option

Could've sworn it was more than one. Oh well, still a pretty cool moment.

>Flying a plane isn't the same as walking.
Flying a plane in a straight line with few obstacles and no danger isn't very far off.
>Mission variety is not a bad thing
Totally, but heavy scripting isn't my idea of mission variety. Ace Combat 0 has varied missions but there aren't as many sections where you're just waiting for shit to happen because it's nearly all player driven.
>especially when 5 has the most missions, not counting 3's branching paths.
If it weren't for the sheer number of missions and the arcade mode I'd feel somewhat disappointed by AC5. As it stands I still feel it's pretty daunting to replay, while I could fire up ACX or AC0 any time.

Most of the mission is just flying to the descent point and the SOLG is a total sitting duck that can be taken out in a minute.

Because it's a large space of emptiness where you do nothing but listen to dialog for 2+ minutes. This kind of bullshit pops up in the very first mission (where the wait time is 3 minutes) and continues throughout the game. It's no different than when a game forces you to walk slowly listening to idle chatter. It's bad design.

The good part of AC0 is not having much timers/score missions. That i agree. But AC5 has way more variety in missions. AC7 is more heavy on timers and scores, unfortunately.

0 had the best missions though

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I just replayed the PS2 trilogy this week, and goddamn, does Ace Combat 4 and 5 still get me going. 5 is a little bit overestrictive at time, like the way it forces you to use certain plane types in a couple missions, and the hangar UI is just atrocious, but it's still the best story Ace Combat's ever produced, and it does one of the most important things very well, that being making the war feel grand and involved and like an actual difficult affair. 4 is not far behind in that regard, even if its story is a lot more straightforward it still serves perfectly as a plot of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat, and Megalith might still be my favorite final sortie in all the games I played.
I just wish I could love Zero as much as I love these other two.

More variety isn't always a good thing, especially when it boils down to one off and uninteresting gimmicks.

Sure, but they went too far with the variety and made a load of shitty missions that are unfun to replay.

All I'm hearing is the spoilt cries of a whinging babe who can't stand it when a mission isn't constant missile warnings from start to finish.

Try taking down the SOLG's hidden core in the barrel, its a fucking rush.
Frankly I enjoy how dialogue heavy 5 is and I wish 0 had more of that, everyone loves Pixy but I feel like you barely get to know him before he leaves, even PJ feels like he has more characterization. I also like the missions where not much happens since they tend to add more character to the world, like the one in 6 where you're flying through the fireworks during the victory celebration.

Those are 4fags, not 0fags.

>never played AC before
>start up 3
>these starting planes have such massive fucking turns that I barely manage to bounce off the ground and not die from otherwise unchallenging first mission
oh god

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>everyone loves Pixy but I feel like you barely get to know him before he leaves
This is my big issue with 0. The game feels way too short for its ultimate twist, I wouldn't even care if it was just filler missions where you blow shit up with Pixy, you don't have enough time for him to grow on you before he fucks off.

What you like doesn't matter. This is about how the game is designed.
Why should a mission that only takes 5 minutes have 3 of those minutes used for dialog and nothing else? The answer is that it shouldn't. Those sections have no place in a series like this where dialog can be fed to the player regardless of what's happening.

Planes control differently in 3, you'll notice that if you dive for the ground and then pull up, you'll glide for a while before you ascend.

>What you like doesn't matter. Now let me tell you what I don't like.
Step back for a minute, bud.

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>>start up 3
Awww poor you...

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What I like also doesn't matter. This is about game design.
Why should a mission that only takes 5 minutes have 3 of those minutes used for dialog and nothing else?

Have anyone of you acebros played AC XI ?

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Because the devs want to relay dialogue to you that works within the context of the mission. Would you prefer that it interrupts the game and has you sit through a cutscene where the exact same thing happens instead, except now you have no control?

>ships actually have anti-air defences and shoot down incoming missiles
MOTHER FUCKERS

You know previous and future games would give you something to do while dialog was going on, right?

I'll get on it

Fire a regular missile at one end of the ship and then your ship raping missile at the hull or the CIWS.
Or, you know. Just get in close.

You know you're focusing on either an optional mission or the final run before the SOLG, right?
Making mountains out of molehills, you sped.

It's fucking big

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Big bird for big dreams

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>AD tanks shooting down my missiles
reeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Someone hasn't played 3

The first mission is optional?

PC+PS4 user here, I was desperately hoping for an AC6 remaster for the PC release, but NOOO, not a damn good thing.

Sure it is. The whole game is optional if you hate it so much you have to pretend every mission is two minutes of combat and three minutes of chatter.

>mfw seeing that video of a tank shooting down the player

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I didn't mind it but then again I hadn't played any other entry yet, not sure if it would hold up for me.

That tank crew must have played Battlefield

>>AD tanks shooting down my missiles
THAT'S what they're for? They always just sat in place and waited for me to kill them.

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So you think no one should play AC5 because it's that bad? I wouldn't go that far but if you agree with me on principal I'll take your concession.

Were you raised to be such a spastic prick, or did you work at it yourself?

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It's a SAM and CIWS 2 in 1. Still gets rekt by PLSL though.

Wait for the emulation via Xenia user.

I accept your concession. Last (You).

JUST finished it today on PS4, what a great fucking game. I thought it was way better than 4 (Mobius felt a bit too detached from the story). Will play 0 next and order 6 in the meanwhile. So far I played AC3, ACX, ACJA (dropped it because it would crash on 12a), ACAHL+, 4 and 5. 7 is waiting half finished, I'm so glad I went back, fantastic series of games that respect your time.

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I've noticed that if you shoot them from the front the bastards often shoot the missile down.
Found that one while making sure the tanks are actually called AD tanks and not something different, totally fucking insane, did tanks even fire at you in previous games?
Stop being a fucking sperg lol
>this series which i like and there is very little of has a couple of missions i don't like in one game so its SHIT and SHIT GAME DESIGN and WAAAH WAAAAH WAAAAAH
Do you even fucking like ace combat, i notice you've not replied to me at all, only to that guy. Have you played 3, or 6?

>did tanks even fire at you in previous games?
No, and the fact that they even included hit-detection on them is crazy. Not even the Megalith missiles had that.

You can kys with the bunket buster too

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Is this emulatable ?

Reminder that you can actually check if a silo is fake by looking at it.

If it has brown lines on a flat dirt patch then its fake. If it has thicc blast doors raising above ground then it's a real silo.

lol that's incredible

Nope, and it's gone forever from the app store too.

Honestly I thought 4's story was one of the best. Since you're pretty much a faceless protagonist anyway, it worked that the story wasn't about you. 5's missions were much better, though. 0's missions were just as good, if not better, so look forward to that. Also had my favorite OST out of the bunch.

Got one or two webm on the laptop, let me boot it up and get them.

Or you can just do the route method. Once you hit a single fake silo, you'll know which route you're on.

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Here you go

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*fires EML*

EML is absolutely terrible in SP.

Hang in there, the planes later in the game are way more agile, and complete all routes on the same save file (save at the end of one, choose download, and instead of loading a file, choose new game, and you'll start a new run on the same file). Play it for the first time a few weeks ago and I was blown away, gotta say it's a very advanced game for it's time.

I can't read that

Oh fuck me.
I'm so doing this from now on.

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The first time I got an S on that mission was when I used the PLSL. You can also pew pew the ships too.

You start at the bottom silo, which is always real. Then you go to the silo to the west of it. If it's a fake, you're on route C, so you hit only the silos marked C.
If the southwest silo is real, you hit the silo to the north, then you go to the center silo. If the center silo's a fake, you're on the A route, and so you hit the eastern silos.
If the center silo is real, you're on the B route, and you hit the northeast silo (and get the Clairvoyant medal).

Don't get me wrong, I really liked the melancholic tone throughout, but killing Yellow 4 has no impact for Mobius, just one more on the list, and finally facing and killing the whole Yellow squadron doesn't have the same build up as facing Grabacr and Ofnir in 5. While Mobius 1 is described as a legendary pilot from the start, and Blaze is called Kid until the end, Mobius is too much of blank slate (and a sub Gryphus 1 imo), the character evolution is much better in 5. But all this is highly subjective and I loved 4 too, plus I'm still on the high from 5. Project Aces watched the trench run in ep IV way too much haha

I tried pewpew'ing the ships, it worked but then I tried anti-ship missiles. I had no idea how effective they were.

Love this game

even my shitbox FX8300 handles it well on ps2 emulator

Here's another webm that made me go "holy shit".

First S in the game for me (AC7 was my first AC game) and LASM served me well.

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That one just gives me anxiety.

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If you go through missions too fast you'll miss some comms chatter
I'm on my 5th playthrough (trying all medals atm), heard Skald in either mission 19 or 20 just recently and was quite surprised

What's the objectively best way to play Zero on PC?

pcsx2?

AC7 being successful on PC means they're going to port 4, 5, 0 and 6 now, r-right?

The only way you can, through PCSX2 with the recommended AC4/5/0 settings.

>PA
>Bamco
>Porting ancient titles

Does anyone have those recommended settings anywhere? I spent hours messing around with settings myself but could never get it to look as good as some screenshots I've seen.

I like how you can see the aftermath of the previous attempts.

You can literally see the copilots inside the cockpit of the plane models, but yes apparently they are just mannequins or something

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I'd give my left nut for a port of AC6 with all of the DLC included. Unfortunately AC is one of theose franchises that has it's games disappear once the licenses expire.

One day AC7 will be taken off of steam too.

One of the problems that I had with 4 is that the missions themselves didn't feel as good as the later ones. In the first battle with the Yellows, 4's death isn't even revealed until after the fact, and it wasn't even a full battle. You shoot one and it is over. Also, the story was much smaller in scope, which may have also held AC4 back. You're right that Blaze has more personal development because the story revolves more around his squad than Mobius' story. I liked the outside perspective I guess. Fleshed out the world more to me. Made it feel like your actions were impacting the story. I liked the testimonials from 0 for that reason as well.

They literally ported AC5 to PS4

>Does anyone have those recommended settings anywhere?
Step 1. Use software mode

that's it

Bamco will never let the glory of Ace Combat 6 be known to all... Except I'm pretty sure they could since I doubt the exclusivity contract for it is still in effect. Too bad the DLC is still dead even for the Xbone.

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I forgot about that. Isn't it just a resolution bump?

Yes it's just a port, but given how terrible most remasters are a straight port is the best option

>I liked the outside perspective I guess
That's all you need, your own opinion is the most important one after all.

what linked is great. Played through AC4 nigh-flawlessly, just had to double tap F9 for the sun to render properly and there was one mission or two with very minor ground glitching. Game ran smoothly and looked beautiful, and I plugged in my DS4 for the added ease of play.

Speaking of which, it's a decent port. Supports 16:9 in game and cutscenes (menus and briefings are still 4:3), runs smoothly and looks better than the original (better resolution I guess) and the control scheme is adapted to the Ps4 controller. And it has trophies (not that I care). It's not one of those shitty emulated Ps2 games, but a real port. Anyone knows if it's the same with AC4 on Xbone? That much effort makes me wonder if they aren't considering porting some of the older games to modern hardware?

I mean I just replayed all of 5 and Zero a week or two ago, but I didn't know about the no interlacing codes. Otherwise the settings are more or less the same that I ran with.

via BC. at least AC5 got some polish in it's port and can be considered a 'remaster' of sorts.

just buy a 360. they're like $30 at any pawn shop or on CL/Kijiji. 100% worth it for this game alone. despite being 10 years old it looks almost as good as 7 on consoles.

Good to see so many AC5 bros in this thread. I know you guys were out there, but it's really disheartening everytime there's an AC thread and everyone bashes nagase.

I don't want to argue with them because I don't want to turn a comfy AC thread into a shitfest, but I personally liked her. In the early mission where Bartlett gets shot down she declines role of squad lead to you despite being arguably more experienced at that point. Then she stays loyal to you throughout the entire game and generally had a good personality. Chopper and archer were also pretty based, even swordsman after he joins. Definitely the strongest wingmen cast out of the trinity.

>no interlacing codes
That's what used to get rid of the scanlines IIRC? The games does looked better without them but it's not that huge. Getting rid of the black planes was a great step forward. Glad I could play 5 on the Ps4, since the code fucks up the cinematics.

ROFL I'll never forget the first time I played this fucking jap game.
>F-16
>Armament of 100 missles
ROFL LMAO They can literally have max of 4 lol WHAT FUCKING GARBAGE LOL ROFL

>Bashing Nagase
Her AI is more competent than some people who play the game

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IKR? This arcade game is so unrealistic. Better go play DCS World for FREE where one plane is worth more than AC5 back on release, and AC5 has 53 planes

But seriously, playing AC made me realize that plane nuts are even worst than gun nuts. For them it's like, either it's realistic or it's shit. You're playing a game buddy, you're not an actual pilot.

What the fuck are you doing, you silly nugget

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Simfags are so pathetic lol, sucks that you never made it as a pilot, at least you can pretend :^)

Like I said, I already played 5 anyway (both on PS2 long ago and a week or two ago on PCSX2) so I'd just use the code to spice up my Ace difficulty playthrough instead.

A mook horror show if there ever was one. Imagine you're on the ground trying to invade and you see a lone jet flying at you at supersonic speeds. No time to even register what happens before you get vaporized.

You keep telling to climb but I'm in a cockpit you dumb bitch, how could I climb anywhere lmao. HEY IS THAT A HRIMFAXI-CLASS MISSI...

wat

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>5's story is extremely cheesy and cliche.
I mean, yeah. It's an Ace Combat game.

3/3jp isnt good and shouldn't be canon

>plane nuts are even worst than gun nuts
As a plane nut I resent being lumped in sim autists.

>Sea Goblin is to the ground what the Aces are to the sky
>we'll never get to read or see their crazy missions, just radio chatter

>That one was thermobaric!

fuck off incel

>I'll make assumptions about this person, instead of responding to how shitty my weeb game is!
CONVERSATION LOST MUCH?!?! ROFL LMAO

Don't pay attention it's a dumbass joke. In AC5 Nagase screams at the nuggets/noobies to climb above 5000 feet to avoid the blastwave from a special missile shot by the Hrimfaxi, a giant submarine. But very few, if any, manage to do that even though they have plenty of time and just need to angle their nose up.

ace combat 7 has a shit story. anyone that disagrees is a contrarian or a reddit/twitter tier memer that spams shitty ac memes

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>incel

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I loved it personally but hey, opinions.

>Have disc copy of Zero
>Playing PS2 games on modern TVs is garbage but don't have a CRT anymore
>Don't want to emulate
Life is a neverending struggle

Just emulate it you gimp, it takes five minutes to set up.

touched a nerve, huh

>sim autists.
I apologize sincerely if I have offended the plane nut community, it was never my intention to begin with but you're right though, the term is more apt

>need to shit
>have toilet
>don't want to use it
the struggle is real, bros

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Reminds me of Nuclear Strike, where you actually saw the cheesy action sequences with your buddy Cash or the asian chick going operator/guerilla on the ground while you flew around.

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I'm almost mad this is a MP-only track. I'd take this for the first half of Battle for Farbanti over what we got, it wasn't even a Farbanti remix nor used the AC4 instrument set like Stonehenge Defense/Dragon Breath did.

What the fuck does Islam even look like in Ace Combat? They're not blowing shit up, so they gotta fuckin be doing something.

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this confuses the weeb

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Don't let sim autists do the same thing to plane games that they did to racing games. Racing games can't release to steam anymore without perfect 1:1 force feedback accuracy and a tire model so detailed it simulates the car going over lines of paint on the track without 1000 autists review bombing the game. It's completely fucking murdered the arcade racing genre on PC.

blame shitty ass steam

wars pop off every few months so they get their explosion fix from that.

Just finished the main campaign for 7, was amazing. When will 4,5, and 0 get a HD compilation release for PS4?

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>DCSfag still butthurt
lmao pathetic fag.

It's just not the same man

>Republic of Romny

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Bet you can't even read what any of those instruments say lol. Nice euro truck simulator graphics, by the way.

was there ever any point in inserting the actual european theatre into strangereal?

I cherished my copy of 5 for years until I had a break in, and for whatever fucking reason, amonst the things they stole, was that old as fuck PS2 game.

Burglars with patrician tastes always do the most damage

>faggots who take Dick up the ass like "THE PEACEFUL ARKBIRD WAS SO PEACEFULLY FLYING IN PEACE UNTIL THE UNPEACEFUL WAR RUIN ALL PEACE"
Poetry

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It took you four hours to write that?

> Still not Ace Combat game with ground combat & exploration like the original BattleFront II
Defend this

>burger time comprehension

>Defend this
No

Not even close to the same genre of game, shitdip.

They fixed the UI texture scaling so they actually look like vectors instead of textures. Also much higher quality on the cutscenes and audio. It's the best version of AC5.

It took you 8 years to write that?

Is there any way to get the AC5 HD version now or are you shit out of luck if you didn't pre-order AC7 for PS4?

>But seriously, playing AC made me realize that plane nuts are even worst than gun nuts. For them it's like, either it's realistic or it's shit. You're playing a game buddy, you're not an actual pilot.
As a gun guy, the only things that trigger me are things like those abominations in Bethesda fallout games.

Right now you're SOL. But I don't think they made such an effort to make a decent port just for the deluxe, so I guess we'll see it or even a compilation available for purchase. But who knows with game companies...

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They almost made an FPS set in the Strangereal universe
There's a screenshot of the concept somewhere

Praying for a PC port of the PS2 games.

Hey, it's okay to like guns or whatever and be knowledgeable about it, but starting to get all antsy because someone said clip instead of magazine is just being an elitist prick, which not all *** nuts are.

Or screeching over the game not perfectly replicating the ballistic model and recoil pattern of your favorite rifle.

There was a tps concept as well, was gonna be an action game with powered exosuits set in sapin in 2025.

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This looks like the FPS, looks like you'd be a cop/emergency worker rather than a soldier. Those closeups with the planes look fucking ridiculous.

I'm a retard who forgot to include the image.

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I hope the success of AC7 means Strangereal comes back in full force.

This is the last of the concepts, looks like a cinematic third person QTE game.

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I posted in a previous AC7 thread about where to start. I got 0 working fine on an emulator but it isn't really grabbing me right away. At what point do I start getting into the CUHRAZY story and/or gameplay?

Xenia can suck my fucking ass, I've been waiting 15 years to replay Lost Odyssey without needing 4 fucking disks.

That was it, I got them mixed up

besides Glatisant, none of the missions actively tried to kill you.

I finished high school with like a 1.8 GPA, have never done a pull-up in my life, and run a 9 minute mile and I am sitting in an F-15 hangar right now with somebody that has some obscenely strong prescription lenses. If you actually want to, go to /meg/ on /k/ and you can ask around and see if you want to pursue it any further.

AC isn't Devil May Cry, it's Star Wars in planes

The CUHRAZY was more in reference to story than gameplay. I had AC described to me as MGS in planes. The gameplay seems pretty tame currently though; no mission thus far has really stood out or wowed me and I'm wondering if I'm still just too early in the game or if it doesn't really step up in terms of spectacle.

>f-15
so basically you work for a scrapyard

I started with AC7 and while I enjoyed the game, I couldn't get into because I didn't know the previous games and couldn't follow the conflict from a geopolitical standpoint (Osea vs Erusea in Usea, who the fuck is what???) so I want back to discover the series from earlier titles, and that made me enjoy it way more. It depends how much you can dive back into older games but this my recommendation: AC3(JP), ACX, AC N3DS, AC4, AC5, AC0, AC6 and finally AC7. Check the thread, someone posted an image with a list of games to play/avoid.

every Round Table visit is a gem, when you start pushing into Belka it gets more intense

Kek, F-15Es drop more ordinance in the Middle East than A-10s do.

Legacy F15s, and Strike Eagles are still flying and in service.

F16s have dropped more ordinance than A10s

0 gets crazier and crazier, you'll have a laser trying to blast you out of the sky soon enough. The story is pretty barebones though and told through people reminiscing, play 5 if you want a full on plane anime.

Ah gotcha. I'm still quite early on (but being bad at the game means I spent a long time on it anyway) so I've only visited the Round Table the first time. The most recent two missions I remember are the one where you liberate the big city with the bell ringing, and the one where you get to pick one of three approaches to a mission.
Noted; 0 is a prequel so I had assumed you wouldn't need too much background info but I'll keep that in mind.

>Noted; 0 is a prequel so I had assumed you wouldn't need too much background info but I'll keep that in mind.
Well it kinda assumes you've played 04 and 5 before it at least, but I guess there's a couple fun surprises waiting for you then

Funny how Jap developers were so dumb to take MS' coin that it nearly killed their industry.

>The gameplay seems pretty tame currently though
To be honest I feel that about 40% of all Ace Combat missions are completely forgettable.

Without spoiling a thing, what happens in 5 is linked to what happens in 0. If you're familiar with MGS, you know that you could play in release order or in chronological order and get a different experience of the series while playing the same games. I chose an order to see the gameplay evolve rather than going from 1995 to 2040. While MGS with planes is a good description, most games involve new characters and aren't direct or related sequels and the overall plot isn't as involved as MGS where you follow recurring characters (mostly Big Boss and Solid Snake).

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>Best Gameplay in the series.
If you like dropping SFFS on boring ground targets.

Missions often give you the choice of attacking air objectives instead.

And SFFS is actually pretty godly in AC6, beats any of the crap you have to deal with Ground-pounding in AC7.

there's noot enough playable meme aircraft

>Missions often give you the choice of attacking air objectives instead.
I know that but it's still most ground based. Infinity CO OP fixed alot of problems I had with 6, especially the (HARD) variants.

>still no AC7 co-op missions
>still no EDF5 on PC
these fucking Jap companies man

>It's not canon.
gunna need a source on that from Kono, boss

>still no EDF5 on PC
Meanwhile on console
>We're surrounded! What're we gonna do?
>I'm throwing an artillery barrage at our feet!
>Get the crates before the mission ends, quick!
>EDF! EDF!
>Destroying the city in order to save the city

Be patient pc-bro, it'll come someday and it's worth the wait

How does EDF5 improve on 4.1?

Remake when?

I have beat it lately and it was surprisingly good, not for a 20 years
old game but just it was simply good.
Its futuristic story and set-up can stand even today, artstyle doesn't look obsolete, soundtrack is on-par with 0 and 7.

giving it the latest graphics and gameplay mechanics, it will be reborn as a 10/10 game, I think.

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>soundtrack is on-par with 0 and 7

Hell yeah
youtube.com/watch?v=fzjPnoSNprE

Blaze is my husband! The courts dont know what they are talking about!

Back to space solitary, Nagase, the reports aren't declassified yet

Get on the fucking spaceship, Nagase.

Is there any actual Nagase art? I need it.

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Which one? There are several Kei Nagases in Ace Combat

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Thank you based user, have a cute one.

The one you posted, the AC5 Nagase.

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-Now only late 2 gens and not 3
-Even more missions with the classics like Reds thrown in
-Underground nests are way bigger and vertical
-Frogs (and their evolved counterparts) have an actual AI and survival instinct
-Air Divers now get a birdview when aiming artillery and allies can see the danger zone on the ground
-More weapons, vehicles and new specialized equipment that changes how the classes handle
-Collection radius for vehicles, Ranger and Fencer doesn't force players to use Wing Divers as crates collectors
-Civilians no longer hamper performances
-New setting that isn't a continuation of the Ravagers invasion, but rather the first human-aliens contact
-Vehicles now all have a laser sight like the Railgun in 4.1
-You loot for all classes at once, with a 3/5 ratio in favour of your class
-Already looted weapons upgrade with subsequent doubles (better reload times, damage, range, accuracy, etc) making an upgraded weapon still usable even if you have a higher level weapon, making loadouts more polyvalent
-a bunch of other shit I can't think of right now
In short, a good game that clearly improved on it's predecessors

Frankly I was blown away by how good this game was, I agree that it would be a great game even today if you just improve gameplay and visuals.

inb4 boomer edits

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Forgot pic

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Aren't Fencers way more mobile too, with more responsive and useful dashes compared to in 4.1?

desu the game looks amazing for a PS1 title

Where is my husband!?

Dashes aren't tied to melee weapons anymore, but you can only do 2 in a row at the beginning. As you get more upgrades for your Fencer, you can go up to 6-7 in a row before a short cool down IIRC. Which means you can dash, boost jump twice, dash again, fire artillery or whatever, dash back twice to regroup for instance.

That sounds fucking rad and is exactly what Fencer needed.

Can you still dash cancel and dash slide with weapons?

That's true, rain, snow, sun glare (how the fuck?), missile being actual, physical projectiles, afterburner throwing transparent pixels behind you to simulate heated air trail...and how much shit they cramed in there like briefing, replays, planes models and significant handling differences between starting planes and later ones. I can't believe that this is a Ps1 game.

was AC3 the start of the formula as we know it today then?

BEGONE

T H O T

I think so but my buddy is the Fencer, I'm playing Air Raider. Also normal/hard is harder now and you must complete the game in either of those difficulties to unlock hardest/inferno. They really wanted to improve and not just give us the same game, I'm really glad these games are still going strong despite their niche appeal and how technically out of date they are.

I haven't played Air Combat or AC2, but as I understand it, yes. Although AC3 is quite unique with it's setting and anime cutscenes.

Grim, I know thats you. Ya twink! Get away from Blaze!

>emulate