Why is this shithole so against Touhou being in Smash?

> Niche
> Literally has more fan art in Japan then Pokemon

It's not that niche in Japan really, and it has overall small profile mostly because ZUN has never wanted to officially push it to mainstream.

>this means anything
look, stop being a mouthbreather and think at least once in your life-time.
it's not as popular in the scale of how spics love DBZ and how amerilards and japanoids like Pokemen.

Americans are irrelevant when it’s a Japanese game with all Japanese owned characters

Touhou is the king of niche, which still means it's niche. ZUN never let it be pushed into the mainstream.

If it was pushed into the mainstream it would have died pretty fast

Touhou has multiple games on Switch though.

touhou is for /jp/ obsessed incels

but not advertised through Nintendorks.

And all of those games are published by people who don't own the rights to Touhou

Not this shithole.
Literally everyone who isn't an incel.

>he can't beat the games on lunatic

I never liked the word incel and how the idiots who use that word are NPC-tier stupid but you're right.
only weebs, hikkis and autists care for 2hu and want Reimu in smash.

Because she is a garbo waifu character.

Most people that like her didn't even play her shit game

Because I don't want you fucks crawling into /jp/.

*SKRRRRRRRR*
*ONE STEP FORWARD TWO STEP BACK GUY.. ONE STEP FORWARD TWO STEP BACK*
Huh, What're you saying?
>B-But Assist T-Trophy! Y-You can't make fun of mee-
*STEP INSIDE AND HOLD ON FOR DEEEEEAR LIFE*
I can't hear you over this music I'm playing, What was that?
>S-Stupid Shadowfag! Touhou is really big!
*SKRRRRRRRRRRRR-R-R-R-R*
You're really big? Well that's true you are quite obese.
*I AM ALL OF I AM ALL OF ME, I AM, I AM ALL OF MEEE*
it was nice talking to you, Later Reitard
*SKRRRRRRR*
>B-But RAYMOO-
*SKREEEE*

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Cope more subhuman westies

Based and Redpilled

>Nintendo choosing DLC characters.
>Putting in a franchise on the recline.

CAN YOU SEE ALL OF ME

cringe

based

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>get called based
>but I also like Touhou

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this.
it's strange how there are illogical posts and then there are posts about the good and bad of things even though you like said thing with good and bad sides.

This, Hatsune Miku however is a Icon on the level as Pikachu in Japan, has Nintendo history & Sega already has a rep so i could see her getting in though

DO IT, DO IT, DO IT!

The games are enjoyable and fun, it's just the fucking fanbase that's beyond shit.
It saddens me that probably only 1 in 10 people who claim to be Touhou fans to have actually played the games.

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Makes no sense. And just like waluigi, it's part of some bandwagon a pair of anons started on every fucking smash thread, drones caught up, and now look at what happened.

It's Yea Forums- never to be taken seriously

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yeah, it fucking sucks.

and yet i still love this site because its spirit didn't vanish entirely.

says the guy with a WaterWorld poster

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Is it? I think the ass of the internet would be all for a character that will cause a massive shitstorm all over the interwebz.
Someone please post the ">they bring fumos to evo ;>they start banning fumos at evo" pasta

>miku
ask the fags on miku monday when it was her last game

I'm not against it, I just don't think it will happen.

A world where it would be likely to happen would have tons officially licensed 2hu anime.

We already have characters like Ness, Captain Falcon, Game and Watch, Shulk, and Joker. I still have no idea why you patternfags still insist that every newcomer must be mainstream normie shit. Smash has never been about that, and has always been about celebrating different aspects of gaming, including the niche.

>assist trophy

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>Nothing

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I'd understand your rage if it weren't for the fact that I was also posting this shit
.
don't think I don't know that only Nitendo-related characters have a chance of being on smash.

Shadow-kun, it’s hard to take you seriously when you yourself has been cucked by Sakurai for so long. It just reeks of desperation

Reimu-tard, Your delusion of finally appearing in Super Smash Brothers has gone on for too long. Your series is dying. Face it.

absolutely this

God you’re autistic

not him, but it isn't dying.
it's just that 2hu isn't an official thing hence it being less acknowledged by companies like SONY and Nintendo.

Do you REALLY want 2hu to get even more mainstream appeal than it already has?
From Nintenturds of all fucking people?
For christ's sake man, have some taste and some appreciation for the things you enjoy.
You don't want easy mode shitters coming in en-masse to flood discussions with their bullshit, and easy mode shitters are Nintendo's CENTRAL TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC.
>but the games are still good even if popular among shitters
Yeah fuck off. If you were a hermit you wouldn't give a single flying fuck about Smash.
You cared enough about your interaction with other human beings to make this thread.
If you care about your interactions with others
You want those interactions to be Not Shit
and if the Smash community shows up to them, those interactions WILL be shit.

Don't wish for your hobby to become popular, because popularity brings with it low standards, poor sense of taste, and entitled plebs.

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Meant to reply to

Because your typical rosterag is a drooling retard with terrible tastes. Reimu would be a godlike pick, maybe the only thing that can redeem this terrible fighters pass nonsense.

Or maybe you are one of those Smash fans
In which point I respect your right to enjoy your own things and have your own sense of taste but please for the love of god keep it away from 2hu, 2hu fans are bad enough as it is.

Because not everyone wants you "MUHHH WAIFU" faggotry in a game celebrating gaming as a whole, fuckhead.

>MAI WAIFU

He isn’t in because of that game.....
>imagine being this retarded

>ness
Weird pick earthbound was like 5 years old at the time and f-zero was still a series then u retard

>Why is this shithole so against Touhou being in Smash?
you should ask this same shithole in why they even decide to meme Reimu in Smash threads?
>started off as a counter-shitpost to Shantaefags during the ballot before legit interest came in

explain why Itsuno said Dante cant get in now then?

whatever doesn't get fucked by the project planning process gets into the game easily
whatever does do.
that's including mainsteam normie shit like Rex

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If Sakurai only cared for Smash characters being mainstream or popular, Ness and Falcon would’ve been cut from the roster.

I dunno who that is unless itsuno either works on the dmc games or for smash that means nothing and i could care less

because Mother was still getting games you dipshit
never forget the time Ness almost got roy'd and replaced by Lucas because Mother 64's development

They represent whole series and are from the original game u sperg literally no reason to do that

redpill me on otisposting. always see it but don't know what it means

I was saying it wasn’t a weird pick u idort
Learn to read Faggott

no faggot. joker is in because persona 5 was a massive game in both japan and the west. it's also attached to the SMT series which has been a popular series and even had a prominent presence on nintendo. people like you seriously believe that the only reason why cloud is in because he was a cameo in a kingdom hearts game on the gba.

Itsuno is not Sakurai and said at least its in courtesy of FF and MegaTen already debuting as Nintendo games.
even then Nintendo would just say yes to Dante anyways, Itsuno thinks they should give Nintendo fans DMC on the Switch first like Bayo did.

that's the whole reason why he said Dante is not joining Smash just yet.

A long long time ago, One Based man was shitting on Reimufags and used images of both Shadow the hedgehog and Otis. Right on the spot the alliance between Shadow and Otis was born, Sometimes there's images with both of them in them, sometimes it's Otisbro doing his own thing, Othertimes it's Shadbro's doing their own thing.

by your own logic dante can be in because he has been on a nintendo console. if dante were to ever get in, it would be because of the popularity of his own franchise

Who told you this lie? The only against it is the ottis shitposter.

>Itsuno doesn't care about Project X Zone
you're proving his point retard

does otis and shadow actually have anything to do with touhou or did it just happen through shitposting?

The 3 characters have never officially crossed paths. All of it spawned on Yea Forums and still remains on Yea Forums.

but smash fans and 2hu fans would love to merge as both are fucking insufferable.

good that should btfo faggots think Cloud got in due to his cringy GBA appearance
because that would be in Smash if that was the case

Yeah, that's why Lil Mac and Ridley didn't make it in..... oh wait

dont forget the one reason why Corrin is DLC
>muh western release

I'm not against the characters, but I cant see Reimu being anything but another lame projectile character. Just the same that I was a Simon Belmont supporter, I was wary the Belmonts would become lame keep away chars, low and behold...

The combined autism of the Touhou fanbase and Smash fanbase would destroy the earth.

pure shitposting. Why otisfag thinks just posting a picture of a tranny cow is some sort of argument, we will never know.

Reimu doesn't belong in Smash

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>Pure shitposting
>some sort of argument
How can you contradict yourself in one sentence?

I dunno. I would love her, though; just think about the music.

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Otisfag thinks he makes an argument, but he actually doesn't, which is why it's really just a shitpost

>shitpost
>making an argument:point
U dunno what a shitpost is huh

So far I've 1cc'd every game from 6 to 11 with every shot type, extras included.
I want Reimu in because no matter how niche the series is outside of Japan, she's an icon in her own right. It's not like most westners haven't at least heard of it anyway.

Oh and yeah, I don't give a shit if normies start coming in. I want more let's plays, reactions, discussion and fan content. If you get mad at the idea that more people could have interest in the series, you can fuck right off.

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You're right and I hate you for it.

>just think about the music
Honestly, that's all I fucking want as I would be satisfied with just that
Post music that you want to be in
youtu.be/X0dhIRbkOiM
youtu.be/8dHMVmhBogk
youtu.be/oy6h94s_w5E

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>want it for the music
Whyy u will just get shitty remixes u can listen to the music on YouTube anytime u want I will never understand why people would want something in this game for the music especially because they fuk up all the songs

reimu is the perfect material for another grinch-type of fake leak

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Because people want to play Smash with good music? Especially if well-established video game composers got their hands on Touhou music. It’d be interesting to see.

>touhou
>awful fandom
nigga what

The only place where Touhou is actively hated is Yea Forums.

>Touhoufags are waifufagging elitists
>combine this with their fear of normalfags/ironic weebs
>Reimu is added as a character
>this pushes Touhou towards the limelight
>new fans flood in and discover the decades of shitposting
>start spouting old memes like a bunch of TF2 players
>/jp/ gets a heart attack and gets catalog bombed
>Yea Forums tries to raid /jp/ during the initial reveal and /jp/ mods accidentally ban a bunch of /jp/ posters during the chaos
>/jp/ also enters a new era of paranoia because they think their board will be invaded when nobody gives a fuck about them and their idolshit anymore
>Touhoufags and /jp/ being forced to talk about the games again mindbreaks them
>Touhou threads on Yea Forums get insta-derailed by Twitter screencaps of random people saying ignorant shit about the games (and Touhoufags are too autistic to ignore them)
>a LOT of porn, mostly armpit screenshots of Smash Reimu
>people speculating about what musical tracks will be in and how hard Sakurai will suck EOSD dick
>Marisa and Sanaefags not shutting the fuck up
>three dozen reaction videos of nobody e-celebs acting confused
>at least half of them are making generic waifu jokes because they have no idea of who Reimu is
>collective outrage and confusion from western characterfags
>Neptunia/Love Live ironic weebs latch on Touhou
>they start bringing fumos to EVO
>they start banning fumos at EVO
>Gokufags become even more obnoxious because "an anime character is in"
>the bullet hell difficulty attracts souls-like fags and e-celebs
>TOUHOU RAGE COMPILATION #7
>TOUHOU RAGE COMPILATION MUST WATCH #19
>TOUHOU: THE DARK SOULS OF SHOOTERS, ANIME-STYLE
>GAME THEORY - THE TRUTH BEHIND HAKUREI SHRINE
>clickbait.com - HOW TOUHOU WAS AHEAD OF ITS TIME BY INTRODUCING A NON-BINARY CHARACTER (insert Wriggle here)
>Jap sites can't stop cumming and laughing at the Fatesfags
>2ch is on full shitstorm mode because she was a Sans tier meme choice
>Pixiv gets nuked so hard by crossover art that it becomes unusable

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gee, thanks

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U can just listen to it anytime u absolute sperg it’s not like they are making original songs for the game that would be different

I still don't get what Stirner has to do with this pasta.

wtf i'd love reimu in smash now

Let me correct you there - Yea Forums has had plenty of civil Touhou threads. The only place Touhou is hated is in Smash threads on Yea Forums. Which is incidentally the place that attracts Reddit, newfags and underage the most.

Do you think remixes are 1 to 1 recreations of their original songs? Go listen to any Smash remix and then listen to the original song, you retard.

>>they start bringing fumos to EVO
>>they start banning fumos at EVO
well that already happened

Imagine the fucking amount of tertiaries who will paint Touhou as a vessel for LGBT activism. We have too much of that as it is.

Honestly I'm a little worried at some of the effort a few of the composers put into their arrangements. A lot of the time they miss what I feel is a key point of a song which lessens the impact of them, making the remix rather disappointing. It happened with Steven's Battle, there's a part at the beginning which sounds really fucking great in the original version but the remix doesn't make it pop out at all. Would be disappointing if my favourites got remixed only to sound uninspired.

Yea Forums isn't about Touhou being in Smash, what the fuck are you talking about?
Well a bunch of discordfags are but who gives a shit about discordfags

grinch was once in a millenium happening where someone made up extremely unlikely "leak" but bunch of extreme coincidences came along which made it extra plausible

Imagine samefagging this hard
Anti-Reimu trannies are so fucking desperate lol

Shit meant against, not about

Dude, if either Touhou or Sonic were to be a dying franchise, it'd OBVIOUSLY be Sonic, you do realize that right?

>Reimu-fags aren't trannies themselves
hmmmmmm

You people need to stop caring about these trivial things, expecially since they were always here. It's not like they would influence ZUN's work anyway.

Why original songs are always better u a retard for wanting a character for their music when u can just listen to the music anytime

Reminder that ZUN is not against guest appearences.

People who want Reimu in have good reasons to do so, people who are against her literally all come from the otisposting discord

Because touhou is an average at best shmup with loli to pull in faggots like yourself

Go play radiant sivergun or ikiruga you fucking casual

Are you really not seeing the appeal of having Yoko Shimomura or ACE’s respective styles injected into music as iconic as Touhou’s? I’m thinking this is bait at this point.

Same can be said towards radiant shittergun and icuckruga faggot
Play hellsinker instead like a real man

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Touhou isn't even hated by regular users on Smash thread. They literally have a discord where they raid threads and shitpost on both sides with the whole Reimu vs Shadow thing, and otisposting
I wouldn't be surprised if they were the ones doing steveposting too

Litteraly who? Just go listen to their works if u wana hear them??? I don’t understand????? Wanting for music is very dumb it should be solely for how their gameplay will be as that’s really all that matters in a fighter is how the fighters work and play

I don't even use Discord.
and Otis shitposting is fucking lame and irrelevant.
to say, Reimu is more of a character like Quote so I'd say that she at least deserves an assist trophy or spirit or whatever shit exists in smash nowadays.
she'd never truly be in smash. I don't even know why Cave Story was more recognized than Touhou but there you have it.
I don't even know anymore.

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Music remixes can be a reason too, some Smash remixes are even better than the original
People who want Reimu in Smash usually just want to make Smash an even better game. Having Touhou music play during the fights would do that, having Reimu playable with her moveset material used well would do that, having spirit battles for many different Touhou characters would do that.

>I don't even know why Cave Story was more recognized than Touhou
That's because it was never the case. Cave Story isn't nearly as popular as Touhou is.

I get it ur obsessed with raymu and it’s music but most people don’t care for smash remixes why would I bother wasting time listen to vidya music especially smash just go listen to their works on YouTube or something u retarded sperg

Holy hell you reek of underage. Please go back to whatever shithole subreddit came from.

Based

Because you yourself is against Touhou being in PS All Stars

>two if the most praised shmups in history
>average on the level touhou is

Lmao cope harder

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Why are you making your bait so obvious all of a sudden? Are you in a hurry or something?

Literally everyone who gave half a shit about indie games in 2008 knew who Quote was, no one has ever cared like that about touhou

>Touhou fandom
>bad
This is why there should be age restriction on the internet

Because it's indie faggot shit

Because it's a niche series made for /jp/ autists. My only interaction with a 2hu fan was some autist on a TF2 server who spent probably 30 minutes talking about some "sad" lore backstory shit for one of the characters. It was one of the cringiest moments of my life and the dude had zero understanding that literally nobody else gave the slightest fuck. I don't have the screencap anymore, but even moot said that shit doesn't belong on Yea Forums.

Wrong

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>opinion I don’t like is bait
..... I not baiting I serious no oneplay smash for its music people play it to fight and have fun or whatever ur idea of character be In solely based on music is most dumb idea ever

>Japanese porn search results

Not impressed with loli obsessed tards who play maybe one game then just jack off to fanfiction

oh, actually upon googling and searching the web it's Shovel Knight who's in smash.
now that is something that would make you think.
I know, it's a widely acknowledged indie game but still, seems like Touhou and Cave Story don't seem to have a chance against Shovel Knight.
now this is what I don't actually get.

No, ok user, I KNOW anti-Reimu posters are the most retarded users on this site by a landside but I can't believe you would literally ignore the fact that I mentioned other things she would bring to the game asides from music only to claim later that I only care about music.

I doubt porn is even 5% of these results when it's literally nothing compared to the amount of Touhou fan content that isn't porn

T.normalfag

Wrong again

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>literally every touhou only thread turns into a porn dump past post 20
>porn isn't why its popular I sware!

Overcucks said the same thing

Use punctuations, you braindead retard.

>PORN IN MY Yea Forums?!

The japanese probably don't use latin alphabet and google when they search for their porn

Because I don’t care also u sound like an insufferable pretentious prick
>people who don’t like what I like are the most retarded
Unironcally fuck off and never post again

There's a difference between not caring about a character getting in and being straight up against their inclusion for literally no reason other than "DUUUUUURRR I DON'T LIKE THAT"

Not an argument

It kind of literally is

I could care less if they actually make it in it just ur reason was dumb and also because ur insufferable and extremely annoying and u need to stop

what should I say then?
should I ask why Touhou isn't shown in media as much as Hatsune Miku?
I won't win this argument but at least I want to know why Touhou isn't shown more than it should be even though it's pretty well-known.

Also u need to stop being so obsessed with this character
It’s honestly very creepy

Then just admit you're baiting and fuck off rofl

>Make a shmup game, a genre which is already painfully difficult as it is for the regular human being
>"MMMH NO ACTUALLY THIS GAME IS BAD BECAUSE THE ONE I PLAY IS EVEN MORE DIFFICULT!!!!1!"

Why are you disgusting autists like this?

Because ZUN doesn't give a shit about Touhou being featured in mainstream shit, he doesn't need that

I told u it’s not bait u need to let go and stop being an omega creepy sperg

>get proven wrong
>"I-IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!"
lmao fucking retard

Nigga touhou is harder then silvergun or ikaruga, it just has underwhelming art assets and mind numbingly boring level design thats only idea is more bullets and thats just about it

not him but you are starting to annoy me while I am lurking.
I'll just say this, fuck off and stop typing like a subhuman when trying to hold a conversation even if it's text-based.

also,
>Also u need to stop being so obsessed with this character
It’s honestly very creepy
where do you think you are, retard?
OUT.
fuck, I can't deal with newfags.

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Kinda not an argument

The only way thats an argument is if every thread is a porn dump

What's great about Touhou is its lore and its universe

Close enough desu

The fuck are you talking about? Spellcards are peak pattern design.

Its your average moe shlock on top of magical girl shlock. Its not good or redeeming in any way

so, I guess he doesn't give a shit if Reimu is in smash or not.
why do you care then? I am honestly glad that ZUN even bothered to make these Touhou games. that's all that matters, at least for me.

I have no idea what you mean by this but Touhou have an extremely well developped and interesting universe.

Sure thing he doesn't care, ZUN would never go to Sakurai like "pls put Reimu in Smash" rofl. He doesn't give a shit. But if Sakurai or Nintendo contact him chances are he'd accept.

>cute girls fly across the universe to beat up the bad dudes while being cute with each other

I fail to see the interesting part

Back to the cuck trophy with you faggot.

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This is retarded even for a bait user, you should feel bad

probably

You got btfod

Because Reimu warrants no reason to be in.
>Almost no history with Nintendo
>Certainly not popular enough for fan outcry
>>>>>>>>>Indie
That last one alone makes it extremely hard enough as it is to be a fighter netherless have representation. Does that mean I don't want her? Absolutely not. I like touhou and I like shmups but I don't see it happening. At least for the time being.

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Not an argument

Praised by normalfags maybe

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Not him, but overly simplifying and trivializing something through greentext isn’t an argument either.

I'm a Touhou fan, but not even I think Reimu is likely.

>Almost no history with Nintendo
I love how patternfags are the only ones left to care about this shitty fanrule. It was debunked by both Sakurai (2015) and Reggie (2018).
>Certainly not popular enough for fan outcry
Shantae, Shovel Knight and fucking GENO got a fan outcry.
>Indie
Indie games are a big part of the current videogame industry, especially in Japan with doujin culture being extremely widespread there, and not only in terms of videogames.

>Complaining about people not taking your obvious baits
Get a clue lol

Samefagging as if u won something.....
digusting is

None of those were me retard

cope

U seem pretty quick to defend it hmmmm
Makes u doing a think huh

>
>Almost no history with Nintendo
I love how patternfags are the only ones left to care about this shitty fanrule. It was debunked by both Sakurai (2015) and Reggie (2018).

When was it debunked exactly?

well, you're proving how new and idiotic you are.
also, stop fucking phone posting even if it's the current year. proves that you left school too soon because it feels like it's summer with you here.

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Sakurai after Cloud's reveal saying appearing on a Nintendo system was just courtesy
Reggie after Joker's reveal saying Smash was a crossover off videogames at large and link to Nintendo wasn't necessary

Honestly, this is getting embarassing for you. Either lurk more for a couple years before posting or go back to your normie shithole.

A shitpost is not an argument. Which is why he is wrong.

Except both games have some manner of Nintendo history, even loosely.

Implying u couldn’t have made the other post in a different browser or with phone
..... means nothing

Again, you’re grasping at patterns that Sakurai or Nintendo likely hasn’t accounted for. And Reimu has appearances on the Switch, so that should be enough Nintendo history considering Bayonetta got in.

Oh fuck no. Smashfags are cancer incarnate. Reimu in Smash would be equivalent of ZUN selling his franchise to TM and turning Touhou into gachashit.

>u have to be on site for years before even making a post
Again pretentious sperglord ur words mean nothing go look at “lewd” pics of ur waifu u fucking digusting subhuman

I'm talking about official statements that followed the characters inclusions, not the inclusions themselves.
A pattern isn't a rule.

this is too embarassing.
holy shit.

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I’ve seen the Touhou fandom as pretty neutral group, other than 4chans autismal need to invade themselves with a flood of Touhou

It's fine, the cancerous side of the Smash fandom would just dismiss it at "muh weebshit" or some other reddit buzzword and move along. Touhou characters being girls is the ultimate pleb filter

Friendly reminder that Duck Hunt dog, a literal background animation, got in as a playable character

Literally anything could join at this point, piranha plant further proving my point

That’s what was being said shitpost isn’t an argument/making a point

Touhou mobage is coming out soon ya know.

He deserves it also millions know who it is and also I would take more animals over basic humanoids except a few like that retarded bear and rayman they can go burn in a trashfire

>Nintendo related
>Nintendo related
Even if they aren't playable in they're original games, these characters would have no chance if they weren't Nintendo.

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Yeah. Fan mobage, 100% Orange Juice clone. Not gacha. Your point?

Bad thread, OP is a faggot

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Let's take a hypothetical scenario and say that Steve and Reimu were revealed as the final two DLC fighters in the final Smash direct. How would Yea Forums cope with this?

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Making a "reimu in smash" thread is a very powerful generator of absolutely pointless walls of text. People who care about smash are really terrible

>X-fags have been BTFO
>OH NONONONONONO
>HAHAHAHAHAHA
>SEETHING KEKS
and whatever other shitposting sentence exists.
and then there are those who are happy and those who can't cope at all.

Regular Yea Forums would be pissed at Steve and glad that Reimu got in
The otisposting/steveposting discord would be too busy steveposting to care about Reimu anymore
We all win

It's a shithole, what would you expect?

That is absolutely wrong. Fuck.
What doujin game has its own entire board on Yea Forums? Spoiler: It's not Cave Story.
What doujin game has the most fan works, be it in the east or the west? Spoiler: In neither case it's Cave Story.
What doujin game has its own conventions where they celebrate Touhou and share fan content? Spoiler: It's not Cave Story.
What doujin game has the most (fan made) merchandise? Spoiler: It's not Cave Story.
What doujin game has the most homages and cameos in commercial games, western or Japanese? Spoiler: In neither case is it Cave Story.

Cave Story is fucking amazing, but Touhou is a true monolith of the doujin scene and is the one solidified king. And the one to have had the biggest impact on the west as well. Be it here on Yea Forums, the GDQ, fucking Gaia Online. You name it. Facebook, youtube, or fucking League of Legends. The answer remains Touhou.

Cave Story should be and is celebrated. But it can't compete and you're pretty delusional and or uninformed to claim otherwise. Pixel himself would just laugh if you ever tried to seriously claim that Cave Story is somehow bigger or more influential than Cave Story.

>it has its own board
Wrong
>it has more references
Maybe in disgia 3 and a half but in AAA games cave story is much more heavily referenced

>Maybe in disgia 3 and a half but in AAA games cave story is much more heavily referenced
lol no
en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/References_to_Touhou
Do you seriously unironically think Cave Story is bigger than fucking Touhou? Cave Story isn't even that popular outside of the indie niche

Name a single site that does want her in Smash.
Before you mention a Japanese site, do your research and discover that they're far more vehemently opposed to the idea than any western site.

Why have touhou in smash in the first place.

>Wrong
You've never heard of /jp/?
Well it's not as if you'd like it there.

Every site wants Touhou in smash, people who are against the idea here are literally 5 people that come from a discord

>nearly all of it is either stolen assets for grapics or porn game lites

Menwhile everything that has a refences that maters also has cave story references in it, i think poe has an achievement, the biggest game i saw on the list, dedicated to cave story

Keep trying to push your naritive and ill keep bytfo

You mean japan culture? That isnt a touhou board fagtron

>nearly all of it is either stolen assets for grapics or porn game lites
That doesn't define anything listed here

>en.touhouwiki.net/wiki/References_to_Touhou
This will never not be amazing.

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Name one.

>he doesn't know

>That isnt a touhou board fagtron
You're wrong. It was literally created for Touhou.

All of them. Anyone would want objectively good additions to happen.

I love Reisen!

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Cave story fags btfo

This. Touhou is garbage and will never ever be in smash or any good game ever. You need to have a one digit IQ to believe touhou could ever stand any chance of possibly being in smash.

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>>nearly all of it is either stolen assets for grapics or porn game lites
That's just flat out false. Give up.

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Fuck you newfag, this "fandom" has contributed more to this site in any random day that you have contributed to anything in your life

>tfw anti-reimu fags are so retarded you literally can't tell baits/falseflags and actual uniconic anti-reimu posters apart

t.idolshitters

>227 replies
>76 posters
give up, bobody cares about this meme pick and shitposting in between yourself doesn't help

>Menwhile everything that has a refences that maters also has cave story references in it
Where are the Cave Story Ragnarok Online items?

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You do realize it's literally the anti-reimu fags samefagging right? Also no one thinks Reimu is a meme pick outside of the otisposting discord

pretty unlikely and far-fetched
but I cannot say i wouldn't like her in
now fuck off roasterfagging and this autistic discussions

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Just stop fucking making reimu smash threads. Nobody benefits from these shitty threads.
Touhoufags don't want reimu in smash. Smashfags don't want reimu in smash.

Rosterfagging is fun though

>Touhoufags don't want reimu in smash
Wrong, only nichefags are against the idea and they should be ignored
>Smashfags don't want reimu in smash
Yes, actually. Even the otisposting discord is arguing on both sides. Anti-Reimu posting is a meme and you're retarded if you take it seriously

You're delusional if you think it isn't a meme pick. Nobody gives a shit about touhou. Most people never even heard of it. You're a fool if you think Nintendo in current year is about to waste a slot on a character that most people never heard of.

>Rosterfagging is fun though
if you're a literal child that is. and rosterfagging has really shown what the fans really are like.

You need to realize the most important part in my post; most Touhoufags don't give a fuck about your bing bing wahoo kids game.

If Keeping Reimu away from Smash keeps the retards away from the franchise, I'm all for it.
(also Reimu isn't even the best character in her own serie :^) )

>What doujin game has the most fan works, be it in the east or the west?
I'm pretty goddamn sure Touhou has the most fanworks out of all fictional works. I mean, name bigger. Star Wars? Warhammer? Comics? One Piece? All of them pale compared to Touhou.

Touhou is barely even known for being a game at this point.

Because Joker is a well known and mainstream pick? Also, why do you rosterfags care so much about what other people want playable? No one can really predict Smash roster decisions, and it’s retarded that you think you know exactly who they would want playable

>He doesn't know how big Touhou is especially in Japan

Yeah, no shit, people not giving a fuck will always be the majority for virtually any subject. But people who are AGAINST Reimu getting in Smash are either falseflags or retards. There's a difference between being against something and not giving a shit.

because Yea Forums is a shit board filled with consolets and literal zoomers born in 2000

I'm both and I want her in, now what?

Yes, Joker is a well known pick you fucking idiot. Anyone who plays games even a little knows Persona.

Well known? Definitely. Persona 5 trailer had millions views.

No one fucking plays touhou you boomer faggots

/jp/ has made me fucking hate touhou

Touhou is ironic nu-weeb core only liked by animesissies and trannies.

Ahaha no. Persona is a weeb franchise that markets through attractive anime women. So please, continue to argue that Persona isn’t niche.

Pokemon has more fanart.
Touhou also has a fuckton of fanmade games and music though and is truly unrivaled there.

/qa/ is unironically a better touhou board.

If we’re going by Youtube views, Bad Apple currently has 21 million views.

>Outside of Japan, it was the biggest debut for any Persona title to date, with packaged sales five times better than Persona 4. On the PlayStation Network in April, the game topped the PS4 charts, and was third on the PS3, with, Atlus announcing that it had shipped 1.5 million copies worldwide. By November 2017, the shipment number had risen to over two million, which made it the best-selling game in the series.The success of Persona 5 contributed to increasing annual revenue for Sega, the owner of Atlus.

Now feel free to show me how well Touhou sells. Oh wait you can't. All the ironic weebs that play that garbage pirate the games

absolutely this.

>defending newfag /jp/ takeovers

You're a moron. Persona is waaaaay more popular than touhou shit. Touhou is trash that markets only to waifu fags like yourself.

>Pokemon has more fanart.
Just Reimu and Marisa have probably more fanarts then the entire Pokemon.

What are you talking about? This is the only place I've seen that wants her in. Me included.

The entire series’ existence is for ZUN to put his music in
It could sell 20 copies per game like the PC-98 era and he would still make them

not everyone is a waifufag. Not being a waifufag doesn't mean you're a drooling retard either. keep seething.

>check /qa/
>see this
How about no.

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>>start spouting old memes like a bunch of TF2 players
what did he mean by this?

I’m not arguing that Touhou is more popular, you spastic. Obviously Persona is more popular because of its corporate backing and marketing. Touhou has a left a huge mark on Japan and internet culture in general despite being owned only by a single person, and that is worth something.

/jp/ was cool when it translated and discussed huge doujin games, now it's just endless Patchy's Feet! threads. I'd rather look at shitposts here.

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I can see this happening already. I almost want Reimu in so that we can have the final laugh, and a good one at that.

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So you admit the games are shit and the gameplay is an afterthought?

On pixiv yes, but overall Pokemon has more.

Touhou autism has grew the doujin industry, and has funded a biannual convention where Touhou is the central focus. Of fucking course people will buy it.

*ahem*

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I miss old /jp/ so much.
And ironically enough I thought I'd never set foot in Yea Forums and yet here I am. It was just supposed to be E3 some E3s ago and yet I am still here. This place sucks though.

Alright let's check danbooru.
>hakurei_reimu 54k
>kirisame_marisa 51k
>pokemon 57k
Well, close enough.

What the fuck is danbooru? Some no name booru nobody cares about. Irrelevant. Check Rule 34 stupid.

Danbooru is basically just filtered pixiv with a few extras.
You need to look at other sites too, twitter, deviantart, etc.

Let's be serious for a moment: there is no real reason for her not being worthy of smash. Touhou is a long running series, and it's over 20 years old. The main character has a cool design and she would offer an interesting moveset and gimmicks.
Is it true that not many people know about it in the west?
It is, but Japan loves it and at the end of the day that's what really matters.
She's not going to join anyway, but don't tell me that she would be a bad choice because it's stupid.

>Pokemon has more fanart.
It doesn't actually. It's by far the most successful property. Like by far. Touhou does not even compare.
But in terms of fanart? It actually is in the lead.

Fan-art and doujin stuff of Nintendo brands is relatively scarce in general. With how popular they are it's no wonder that there is still a ton of it, but people do shy away from it due to it being Nintendo.

WAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHH

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The gameplay is just decent shmup stuff, true, but each games do try to add their own twist on that
It’s still fairly obvious that most care is put in the music and spell cards (which is still gameplay)

>Check Rule 34
That westfuck garbage fill?

>Touhou is trash that markets only to waifu fags like yourself.
Isn't Persona the series where you can actually date anime girls? Lol

That's besides the point. It's a bigger site that more people actually know about and use.

I want lucario to hold me

Actually true, they fuck off and leave people alone for the most part. Touhou isn't a fandom I think of when I see cancerous fandoms.

Honestly the difference is not that big, and Persona only became more popular with 5
And we do have Bayonetta, which can't compare with any of these two, so yeah

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Yes, and It's also an actual game instead of a low effort waifubait shmup shat out to appease waifu fags.

>that Persona surge
>that Touhou steady decline

Holy shit you're absolutely fucking retarded
Are you even aware of how developped and interesting the Touhou universe and lore is? Or are you just some redditor spamming buzzwords to try and fit in "MUH WAIFU WEEB OOF ANIME"

2hu is reclining

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The projection is real

Do you really need to ask that? He's an underage edgelord redditor

Nobody who actually loves Touhou wants to see the side effects of Reimu in Smash.

Actually laughing right now. Sorry, I have better things to do than look into diaper head lore.

Because there are other Nintendo characters that should be in long before a fucking literal weebshit character should even get a look

Touhou is indie shit

Yeah, who would want their franchise to become as mainstream as Mother or F-Zero?

The series focuses entirely on gameplay and music. The waifuisms come entirely from fan representations of characters. And to think you’re trying to argue that Persona of all games is less of a waifubait weeb magnet than Touhou? Please put more effort in your shitposts.

>Gets proved wrong
>"HAHAHA U GIZ MAEK ME LAUGH BUT I HAVE BETTER THINGS TO DO LIKE GO OUTSIDE W/ AAAAAAAAAAAAALL OF MY FRIENDS WHICH I HAVE A LOT OF I PROMISE"
Every fucking damn time

I do
It's not the apocalyptic end of the world that you imagine it is.

>underage
>edgelord
>redditor
Nice buzzwords you got there. Can't take criticism seriously huh?

Touhou reminds me of the 2006-2009 era internet and for that reason alone i'd welcome seeing Reimu in smash

>Unironically calls people "weebs" and argues about "waifu fags"
>Complains about buzzwords

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Because it's virtually unknown outside of Japan, and it's super fucking weeb shit

Touhou is boring that's all. I'd rather watch grass grow than look up boring touhou lore. You should find more interesting things to do than worship touhou. You'll have more fun.

Me too man. Whenever I hear Airmans thene in smash I'm reminded of airman ga taosenai and I just want touhou music to be there too.

Smash babbies had aneurysm about Ryu because fucking Shoryuken. Now just imagine Reimu with her danmaku pallet.

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Those are legitimate criticisms, unlike the words you used.

It took me too long to figure out that touhou was not an anime, but a shootthemup game.

only NEETs and stupid VIRGINS care about 2hu shit. real people outside of imageboards want doomguy and steve go outside more

Lol no they aren't

Yet here you are on an anime imageboard arguing with weebs about Touhou. If you don’t care as much as you say you do, shouldn’t you be doing something more productive? I already know the answer, and it’s that your life is so pathetic that the only semblence of happiness you’ll get is by shitting on a video game series. So don’t even try to think that you’re better than any “waifu lover”, because you’re cut from the same cloth.

Real people outside imageboards don't give a shit about Smash roster

>b-b-but MY nintendie character should get in!!!!!
So you have no legitimate argument against Reimu and you're just upset your character didn't make it.

I just don't see it being added. Nintendo corporate apparently made the choices for DLC and I don't see them adding an indie character that most people in the West wouldn't recognize, nor would care about. It's simply a bad choice for what Nintendo is going for, which is marketability. If P5 didn't do gangbusters like it did, Joker wouldn't be in either.

I don't hate touhou itself I just hate weeabos and with that shitty anime artstyle I'm sure it attracts mostly virgin otaku to it and them being happy about anything should not really be alowed. Otherwise as far as the character itself goes I don't give a shit, always looked like generic cute daughteru #1738163 to me.
and too
Case in point.

cry harder boi

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cope more NEET

Whatever weeb. I'm just here to laugh at you and tell you how stupid you are for ever thinking Touhou is going to be in smash. You don't know me, fool. If you wanna get personal, I don't waste time here as much as you dumb fags spend worshipping Touhou and making Touhou threads.

seethe

tou who?

>caring about the character selection in a party game
>call people NEETs

At least we get happiness in things we enjoy. Have fun being miserable.

Cry more bitch
You will never get rid of the Japanese influence of this site no matter how much you complain about it.

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Why does this seems so plausible?

Haha. You think I don't enjoy it? I'm starting my day off right making fun of you Touhou losers that think touhou will ever be in smash.

You know? Touhou in Smash sounds kinda fun.

>party game
still more popular than your waifu pandering game for NEETs cope more faggot

It's not the Japanese influence I care about it's the reclusive incels
I like the Japanese influence if anything

Unconditionally hating things is not healthy for the mind, user. You should focus more on things that make you happy rather than spread your misery onto others. And if spreading misery is your only means to happiness, you need to rethink your life values.

It's filled with newfags that don't even know what Reimu means to Yea Forums

Dude, I'm on your side, but saying "seethe" is basically conceding.

No it's not

>projecting

A Nintendo character getting in iver a literal who is the most legitimate argument to make.

Stop falling to edgy bait, idiots.

You don't understand. I want you Touhou shitters to know that Touhou will never be in Smash. That's the bottom line.

Reimu can mean a lot to you faggots without being in Smash.

>incel
Betting 10$ that it's a tranny behind this post.

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Your post reeks of latin poo.

Is your name Masahiro Sakurai? Otherwise nothing what you say matters in the slightest. You are just a mild annoyance.

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It's also the only place where it's actively talked about at all.

No it isn't, because first party and third party characters are not fucking competing with each other for a slot, both would get in for different reasons. If you're still using the "but muh nintendo" line then it only strengthens the fact that your character is an assist/spirit and you're seething over it.

>Imagine if Sonic never became popular but the fandom was just as big as it is now, that's what Touhou feels like to the average person
Literally couldn't have said it any better than that.

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No, you don’t understand. At the end of the day, this is just video games. This rostershit is eating your mind, and your behavior is not normal by any stretch of the means. I’m just trying to help you get some perspective before you do something you truly regret.

>calls other Incels
>looks like that
Do they not have mirrors

>Touhou also has a fuckton of fanmade games
not surprised desu, most of them are probably really bad fanmade games with stolen assets and shit made by some dude in his raymoo basement

>/vg/
>/jp/
>Yea Forums
>every other anime-related board
>/int/
>/bant/
>touhou subrebbit
>I’m sure some fans are on tumblr too
Nah, you just need to venture out more

Same goes for you idiot. I'm not saying I'm gonna influence anything anyway. I'm just letting you know Touhou isn't gonna be in.

Zombie Reimu as an alt skin please

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shut the fuck up and start posting themes
youtube.com/watch?v=PhQ0CQ-m4Xc
youtube.com/watch?v=hxrr7tYkCg4

youtube.com/watch?v=qX5kXNo-O8U
youtube.com/watch?v=4syvy2vjvQY

It’s so weird seeing the year 2015 and it was 4 years ago :/

If this somehow isn't bait you have actual brain issues user

WhisslBlank and the Funky leak was grinch before it happened tho

Touhou is literally for autistic spazz shit lords. No thanks.

youtube.com/watch?v=M9wHYiicY5I
youtube.com/watch?v=iMVmvONtSsY

Difference between us is that I don't claim that Reimu is going to be in. I just say she is possible, and you don't need to be Sakurai to say that.
But a categorical no is not something you can declare if you are not in charge.

But she isn't possible. You just want to think that

And you have a dogshit argument that amounts to “I love Reimu and Touhou so that means it should be in smash.”

>Video game series
>Main character
She's possible you fucking shitposter

Nope. Try again.

Literally no Reimu supporters think like that. Reimu supporters are people who want to make Smash an even better game than it already is, by adding good music, an original moveset, multiple spirit batters etc to it.

According to which fanrule?

Possible? Yes.
Likely? Not at all. She doesn’t even have the mainstream appeal of a Cloud or Snake to put her even close to being in the running. A footnote in a future game is the best she will get.

This user was arguing that she wasn't possible.
Also, Touhou is technically more popular than Bayonetta globally.

>Reimu supporters are people who want to make Smash an even better game than it already is

Wow.

Bayonetta is also a game Nintendo is interested in pushing, unlike Touhou.

>game series that has over 20 years of legacy
>was inducted into the Guinness World Records in October 2010 for being the "most prolific fan-made shooter series"
>series has been a huge inspiration to a lot of game developers, including Toby Fox who made Undertale
>built up the doujin market of Japan and heavily contributed to it's success
All of these are accomplishments that were done by one guy. If that doesn't qualify you as a candidate for Smash then I don't know what will.

reimu will smash and there's nothing you can do to stop her (it's her specialty)

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Don't you love it when retards think they can predict how Nintendo is thinking
Lemme guess Nintendo is interested in pushing Persona too?

I like Reimu!

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You know what "incel" means to those lefty freaks? No, it's not "involuntary celibate", it's a person that hates women and therefore women see through their hatred and give them no sex. There is this reddit guy who made a post about him leaving inceldom but when asked if he got laid, he said no.

>Literally has been an icon since 2011
>Has MAJOR ramifications to the gaming market
>So simple even your grandmother can play
Literally nothing of Minecraft is making it to Smash so really, it's more of a deal of if you're triple A or not I guess.

Bump

cringe

based and crush40pilled

Castlevania made it in and it's a series that had no triple A budget game besides maybe SoTN. Minecraft having no content either means it's DLC or Nintendo didn't approach Microsoft for their crossover game, it doesn't invalidate other video game titles that are lesser known than Minecraft.

>Nuh-Uh

Touhou characters aren't vidya

>HAHAHAHA SO FUNNY 2HU ANIMU MEME

>I hate the fans of this single player game
>by extension I also hate this game
>who cares if I don't need to interact with them to play the game, hate hate hate
I hate how common this mindset is here.

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Isn't this some kind of dating simulator? Why would we need that shit in Smash?

Connections to Nintendo got debunked by Reggie himself, it is not a requirement
ign.com/articles/2018/12/07/nintendo-persona-5s-joker-is-emblematic-of-smash-bros-ultimates-dlc-approach

Based

Fuck off

user, you aren't fooling anybody

>

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Microsoft is not a triple A studio, and Konami is. That was what I was getting at. Plus, Minecraft was birthed from being indie, like Touhou.
It's a bullet hell game made in Japan, not a dating game. And a bullet hell it is.

Reimu is in the next PlayStation All-Stars

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So what would she do, spam tons of bullets all over the screen for every single attack?

There are official touhou fighting games. Moveset potential is decidedly NOT an argument against Reimu.

I just don't want touhou to be crept on by normalfags
I don't even like touhou but I still have the secret club mentality where weeaboo things on the internet are sacred.

Only being wanted because she's a waifu certainly is

>Microsoft is not a triple A studio
user...
Triple A means big budget and big promotion, that completely fits Microsoft. They're literally one of the biggest companies in the entire world.

Your false perceptions aren't argument either.

If she were in she would have a moveset similar to her moveset in Hisoutensoku
Video for reference: youtu.be/rXwHPuoqL04

2hu fandom is actually good, only blatant anti-anime contrarians hate it.

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Because Nintydrones deserve no good things.

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I like to associate a possible smash inclusion to the explosion that happened back when EoSD came out. While it is true that waves of popularity bring a lot of cancer, they also bring a lot of new people to try out the games and enjoy them together. The western fanbase is stagnating and there is a huge gap between veterans and secondaries, a new boom in popularity would solve that. I also think the novelty would eventually wear off and it would go back to being niche, sorta like Earthbound and F-Zero where they have fans but they keep to their own circles.

The Japanese fanbase is already as big as it gets and ZUN had 20 years to sell out, I doubt more western fans would change that. Whatever bullshit happens here will most likely stay here.

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A fandom where 90% of the fans don't even want to bother with the actual material is not a good fandom.

What is that music? Why does a touhou video not have touhou music?

This but also consolefags in general deserve no good things.

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What they produce is relatively high quality, it's not fair to compare them with coldsteel tier faggots.

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Haven't Touhou games been advertised in directs a few times?

I had my sound muted, sorry for sharing something as heretic as that.

Secondaries are absolutely hated by the fandom user, they're definitely not 90%

Just about every touhou fan I've met is autistic or a angry nerd who get into autistic fits over stupid shit

That doesn't matter, a huge majority of the fandom don't even interact with the official releases while also being the face of the series for any outsiders trying to look in.
Touhou fans do a terrible job showing what Touhou is actually about.
You have no fucking idea how secondary invested most Touhou communities, even more outside of Yea Forums.
Half a decade ago I saw someone get banned from a forum for suggesting someone they had to play the games before calling themselves fans.

>spoiler
Speaking of which
for the two guys who were there when I posted this (assuming you are here), I finished the playlist

youtube.com/playlist?list=PL73Le9sIB5SgCa3bjskEgEZdBi2n7j8Rd

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>That doesn't matter
Bull fucking shit it doesn't matter. Not being a chris-chan tier autist is what matters the most. It's not the fans job to advertise for the damn games.

>nine nine nine baka
>Meiling is lazy and gets tortured by Sakuya
>Sakuya pads
>Flandre is a psycho
The usual shit you see in youtube comment sections

Speaking of which, are there any potential shmup reps that are humanoid?

Only fan games

OP posted her

The touhou universe has:
>time traveling
>multiple realities
>multiple deities from different religions coexisting
>different races and factions
>a functional economy
>a race based caste system
>underground civilizations with a rich history
>moon civilizations who went to war with Earth
>god know how much folklore and urban legends that got introduced to the setting
>multiple interpretations of afterlife
And that's just the stuff I can remember from the top of my head. Contrary to what the surface implies the creator takes his setting very seriously and part of the side content exists to explain how the world works or important historical events. There is enough material in this franchise to make an MMO about.

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No incel for me means an involuntary celibate. No need to make that even worse.

Yea Forums becoming contrarian against something they like when more people want it too
same thing with doom guy, since Yea Forums technically created the "doom guy is the strongest video game character" meme

>while being cute with each other
Reimu act like a fat cop patrolling a Detroit ghetto every single game

Keep in mind that pic related doesn't even use all her mechanics.

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Oh so that's why Doomguy gets posted in vs threads here

I think we all know what indie character really deserves a spot in smash...

No not sans you fucking morons, frisk

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Undertale is literally part of Touhou's legacy. Frisk isn't getting in before Reimu.
The would both be based tho

Okay but Undertale has actual history with Nintendo. Touhou has unofficial fangames ported to the switch.

No one gives a shit, Smash is about videogame history as a whole

Because you're dumb fucking waifufags who only post porn and don't talk about video games. Half of you are the same people who shilled Ashley for weeks only to have a huge meltdown when your loli garbage turned out to be an assist trophy. Stop thinking with your dick for five seconds.

Has Sakurai ever even taken interest in the fucking series?

See

>"there are people who post lewds so that means she wouldn't be a valid character!"

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Based on all the shmup segments in Kirby and Smash Bros games we can safely say that he is a shmup fan. With Touhou being the juggernaut it is in Japan I really doubt he hasn't seen it at least once.

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>UNGA BUNGA MUH PORN MUH WAIFUFAGS
Low IQ tier post

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Nintendo chose the DLC picks, not Sakurai.

There is just no real president for her being a possible new fighter. Why her over any of a multitude of others with more mainstream appeal?

Yes. I don't want bad people to feel good.

you know that he deserves it more than the youkai shrine maiden

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Sakurai still has the final word. I am not gonna argue about whenever or not she WILL BE DLC (we don't know how Sakurai thinks, much less Nintendo), but when it comes to potential she scores pretty high. It all comes down to someone at Nintendo waking up one day and deciding to bring her up during a meeting.

begone

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Touhou didn't invent and popularize the shoot em up/bullet hell genre you fucking weeaboo retard. Spacewar!, Centipede, and Space Invaders did. Fucking Atari games.

The problem with a shmup rep is that the big names don't have a humanoid mascot or protagonist to use (unless Sakurai decides to pull another Captain Falcon). If Sakurai decides to add a miniature ship for the novelty them sure but at the moment shmup reps are limited. Reimu wasn't the first or the most influential but she does come from a type of shmup that is instantly recognizable.

Of course she also works as an indie rep if Sakurai ever decides to add one so this isn't set on stone or anything.

Sakurai is a japanese game developper, of course he knows what Touhou is

That user didn't claim it invented the genre you baka. However, it's the biggest shmup series right now with more than 20 games and still going strong. It's a video game series that helped popularize the doujin market, it's gotten so popular that the series has it's own yearly conventions.

I'm not. That's the only thing that would get me to buy a switch.

I want reimu and heavy from tf2.

based

2hufags ruined mugen

If he were to pick am indie rep it'd at least be a character that's well known in other countries. And knowing that UT's popularity has surged across like 6-7 countries I'd say Frisk is the better and more likely rep. Honestly out of all Indies I can name, Undertale stands out as the Pokemon of Indies. It's bigger than Nami Swan's tits.

I'll say this much, If frisk doesn't get in. I'll gladly accept defeat for thinking it's possible. But again, Sakurai never deliberately stated Indies couldn't be playable characters.

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Wrong
> Franchises with the most fan art in Japan
> 1. Touhou (665k)
> 2. OC’s (549k)
> 3. Kantai (349k)
> 4. Fate (212k)
> 5. Vocaloid (197k)
> 6. Pokemon (172k)
> 7. Idolmaster (139k)
> 8. FGO (136k)
> 9. Nintendo (106k)
> 10. Pokemon [Game] (87k)

Frisk is a girl you faggot

>> 1. Touhou (665k)
>> 9. Nintendo (106k)
>> 10. Pokemon [Game] (87k)

Do you even have a source for this.

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Source ur ass

Cope more
> chan.sankakucomplex.com/tag/index?commit=Search&name=&type=3&language=en&order=count

On Gelbooru:
>Nintendo (98431)
>Pokemon (114516)
>Touhou (755330)

Something is wrong as Pokemon has more pics than Nintendo as a whole, but the difference is still clear as day. Most Touhou characters have over 10k pictures EACH.

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I want Reimu to crush my balls!

I wonder if Sakurai cares about repping stuff. I mean, that logic appeals to me a lot, since I think Smash should be a celebration of video game icons from every era, and the bigger, the better. But then we get a bunch of shit one-off JRPG protagonists with no character like Joker and Corrin.

Yeah and this shit doesn't make sense because if we're to go by this logic, Touhou is is more popular than fucking pokemon which is a 90 billion dollar IP.

cuphead would be better imo

You don't know how much nips live touhou, do you?

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It is not more popular per se, but more like 2hu has more fans. People really underestimate how big that shit is in nipland. It’s surreal

This makes my testicles tighten.

What it means is that pictures aren't tagged as thoroughly as we wish they were. Common tags come first and people are more likely to search for mario than they are to search for nintendo. Also, there could be a bias in which pictures people upload to boorus. I have a hard time believing there's only 114,516 pokemon pictures floating around the internet and I know there's more touhou pictures on pixiv, twitter, tumblr, etc. than there are hosted on boorus. I wouldn't be willing to bet on there being 7 times as many touhou pictures as there are pokemon pictures.
On the other hand, I don't think the amount of fan art a franchise generates is necessarily going to be proportional to how popular or valuable the franchise is.

Yea Forums wanted decidueye the school shooter instead of the chad pro wrestling heel pokemon. of course they have shit taste.

People don't care about Pokemon outside the games, the anime stopped being relevant after Ash lost to Mega Charizard. And it's mostly just normies & children buying them. It's only remaining successful due to everyone's collective memories of Gen 1

Nah I can see them picking an Undertale rep too. Global appeal is hard to measure because while there are plenty of western Touhou fans you can't easily measure their size due to the franchise being so niche here (note that niche and unpopular are different things). There is also the fact that Touhou was a major inspiration to Undertale's creation, Toby is a ZUN fan.
Sakurai said that when it comes to new characters he values those who bring something new to the table. A shmup based character and an indie are things that haven't been done yet.

Undertale is part of Touhou's legacy. Frisk does deserve a spot but definitely not before Reimu

No one wants her weeb

literally-who indie shit doesn't belong in smash next to real games.

touhou is fun

Sigh, i think this thread needs this list again to put 3rd Parties with perspective
> Sakurai’s rules for 3rd Party newcomers
> 1. Characters from a series that has no future are rarely chosen
> 2. Fighters that switch models are a different matter."
> 3. Even if a character is unique, if they overlap with other characters and aren't unique as a fighter, they are rejected.
> 4. In order to fit the character into the world of Smash, I need them to allow me some artistic license.
> 5. It might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the history of being on a Nintendo platform.
> 6. The character must display personality in their game
> 7. It’s important to have something that ONLY the character can do
> 8. Potential development issues, and game balance is also taken into some consideration
> 9. There are some characters that can’t join the battle, even if they meet the qualifications
> 10. The amount of out of series crossover appearences the character has appeared in is sometimes also taken in consideration (Why Ryu was added)
> 11. Is the character the representative character for their respective Source Material
> 12. The character must have something inherently unique about them
> 13. NO MANGA Originated characters allowed
This is taken from Sakurai over the last decade & has never been broken

So let me get this straight.

You fucking morons expect an obscure eastern indie franchise that even normalfags are barely unaware of to have representation in one of the biggest games of all time. A series that even ZUN himself is overly protective of his games. Better yet, games that were never officially ported to the switch, or had a spot in the nindies showcases, or be a highlight in a fucking direct.

God almighty at this point I actually DO expect Frisk to get in over her.

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Cope & seeth more

>toe-hoes
>obscure
Holy sweet mother of keks, Yea Forums has a whole fucking board dedicated to it, and had for years now. Mind you I'm not pushing for Reimu in Smash, but calling it "obscure" is pure retardation user.

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>the anime stopped being relevant after Ash lost to Mega Charizard.
t. zoomer
the anime stopped being relevant when they were forced to drop the gs ball arc in favor of making a shitty movie instead.
johto became nothing but tedious filler and most people moved on to yu-gi-oh.

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You fags keep posting this pasta without providing source, it's like you want to not be taken seriously
>It might be something like a courtesy to include a character who has the history of being on a Nintendo platform.
Not a rule, we have been over this.

not an argument.

>Undertale is part of Touhou's legacy.
I deny it.

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>obscure indie game
Oh boy he did it again. Not everywhere is the same as burgertown. Just because bugernormalfags don’t know about 2hu shit doesn’t mean jack shit

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>that even normalfags are barely unaware of
"Normalfags" don't know who most of the current cast is. You are thinking of the circle that plays smash, and at this point their ignorance is their own fault.

>You fucking morons expect an obscure eastern indie franchise that even normalfags are barely unaware of
If it's obscure, how can normalfags be aware of it?
And don't even try to pull out this card, a lot of characters were literal whos before getting in Smash.

because I want Remilia not Reimu fag

news.denfaminicogamer.jp/interview/181019
There are also Touhou related shit in Undertale like the final boss's attacks and Tsundereplane

She will get in first before raymoo

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I nearly 1cc'd 06 on normal. I suck but goddamn this shit's fun brehs.

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>He STILL wants an anime character in Smash

Yikes!

Toby has stated multiple times that Touhou was one of his biggest inspirations. He even met ZUN in person too

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and yet pokemon is a $90 billion franchise, literally the biggest media franchise in the world, while touhou is completely unknown outside of japan. gee, it's almost as if fanart =/= mainstream popularity and recognizability.

Persona is getting represented because it’s got mainstream appeal. Why are you pretending to be retarded?

Castlevania is also a series with historical importance both to Nintendo amd gaming.

Just because it's popular in only one country doesn't mean the fucking world should be aware of what the series is. And even then what the fuck would ZUN gain from doing that? We know damn well he isn't a sellout.

>obscure
Fire Emblem wasn't a thing in the West until Smash. Keep that in mind.

>it's almost as if fanart =/= mainstream popularity and recognizability.
And this relevant to Smash because?
It's super famous in Japan and that's all that matters.

And what of the rest of the world? Do they matter? Does global popularity matter? Answer me that.

Also keep in mind that Nintendo has a financial interest in FE whereas they don’t with touhou.

No, not really.
Not when it comes to Smash, anyway