>exp and currency lost permanently on death, no death runs >world tendency back, continuously dying fucks up the world and affects the story >no stats to grind >no summons, just one tiem characters that will help you and potentially die forever
>exp The game has none. There is no leveling or stat allocation.
Oliver Williams
Game sounds like some heat
Matthew Cook
>exp and currency lost permanently on death
this is not true, you always have a chance starting from 10% up to 50% to not lose anything at all
Nathaniel Lopez
Incorrect - you can level up your Shinobi Prosthetic and Skills
Gabriel Thompson
>There is no leveling There is, you're getting skill points for skill trees and upgrades unlocked by defeating bosses.
Noah Morgan
>exp I thought there would be no levels? Yea Forums said it's far closer to an action game than a rpg.
Thomas Jackson
>one time characters that will help you and potentially die forever Why does it matter if they die if they're a one time thing then? That's pretty dumb unless they give me an item or something if they survive a boss battle with me
Alexander Kelly
SOULFAGS GONNA FREAK
Luis Jones
>fall into the water >can actually swim >there's hostile fish >you can attack while in water >there's a vendor who lives in a barrel there and accepts unique currency in exchange for powerful items
So there's no point in defeating regular enemies? No rewards? I haven't kept up with anything about this game
Nolan James
theres still a thread going, why make a new one?
Robert Howard
>listening to Yea Forums for video game and information There isn't levelling like Souls but there are skill trees
Elijah Clark
Not DaS or BB so it's poop. Fuck From.
Isaac Scott
it has skill trees
John Parker
You gain exp, money and items
Carter Miller
money and items afaik
Grayson Cruz
Oh, okay. Thanks. I guess I should look up some videos on it.
Ethan Rogers
Stop policing your subreddit
David Campbell
>There is, you're getting skill points for skill trees and upgrades unlocked by defeating bosses. LOL! Literally Nu-Doom and Dad of War tier "skil points"
Aaron Davis
you get extra lives as well as gold AND xp for killing regular enemies, xp for skills, gold for items, and the kills to resurrect in battle you need the gold to buy the talismans to use the prosthetic tools, or else you wont be able to have that edge in battle you need the xp for new skills that also give you a leg up if you know how to use them and you need to resurrect if you just keep dying so yeah theres plenty of reasons to kill the basic enemies
Robert Lopez
I fucking love the way they integrated eavesdrop into the gameplay. You learn about boss weaknesses, lore and other stuff this way, there's even some cute banter between bandits. The game feels like it almost goes to immersive sim territory given how many traversal and combat options in semi-open world design you have.
Parker Scott
what the fuck does that even mean if i watch a thread till it expires im "policing a subreddit"
Josiah Adams
Except you need to unlock abilities that can be purchased in the skill tree by finding items out in the world.
Jacob Allen
>world tendency based
Aiden Rodriguez
and even on top of that the skills are an active use move that is only reliable as long as you know how to utilize it, and can just as easily be a shit choice that gets you killed
Well fuck me for not spending all day on gaming news sites
Isaac Clark
there are just today loads of videos on youtube of people doing an in depth analysis of playing the first five hours of the game, i shouldnt post a link cause ill get called an e-celeb shill but... youtube.com/watch?v=ZkUNLxeXaPY "fedora voice" or not, this is really the best video to learn about all the new shit and world information
Brandon Baker
I mean it's not exactly like it's been hard to miss
Gavin Campbell
>that guy with a portable cannon who bashes your shit in melee too
Wow. Thanks for the in depth explanation. Been on the fence about this 'cause I got bored of the souls genre after 3. Sounds like it might be worth checking out.
Carson Foster
It is if you literally never check places that put up these articles. Sorry for asking a question though.
Nathaniel Reyes
Any info on how well it'll run on PS4 pro? Console versions of fromsoft games have always run like ass despite not looking visually that impressive.
it is, look up on youtube just "sekiro" there is just released a whole bunch of new videos of people playing the actual game, not a demo, the game is more than worth checking out
Anthony Torres
Did it get an early release in other countries?
Jace Hernandez
Preview events
Alexander Richardson
Oh, okay. Thanks.
Anthony Sullivan
yeah, they played a bunch of stuff they could show, and some stuff they couldnt. we've still only seen about two levels essentially and they are both fucking crazy
What's up with Miyazaki and wolves? Are wolves his fursona?
Ryder Russell
>game genre based on trial and error >locks you out of content if you encounter errors too much Based and epic. Good job guaranteeing everybody who plays your game has to spoil themselves on a guide to get the full experience.
Mason Kelly
Apparently there is a maneuver where you dodge into the enemy in certain situations and it does a special animation and shit.
Elijah Morris
Because that one is 90% soulsfaggots bitching and 10% trolling. No game discussion.
Bentley Smith
They are giving you multiple safe revives before you're dead for good as well as defensive buffs, stealth, shinobi arts, techniques and prosthetic arm attacks. No excuse, get good
Jack Martinez
>in the real world i might be a loser but in the game world... YOUR the loser!!! This is the souls mindset, ladies and gentlemen
Robert Brooks
>everybody Not me thats for sure. Thankfully I'm not such a reddit dad as you, who thinks the "full experience" is what I'm entitled to, or that a game needs to be as open to me as possible.
Its a fucking game mate. Make mistakes.
Juan Powell
yeah its with the red symbol appearing, but apparently only work with thrust-specific attacks, not all of the red symbol moves, which mostly mean an unblockable attack (the symbol actually says danger in moonrune)
Camden Scott
Too many humanoid bosses as expected
Carson Garcia
Oh look at him, he is genuinely assmad he can't hide behind shields and coop fuckbuddies anymore.
>pay for something, don't want to enjoy it fully ?
Aaron Thomas
get good, along with everything he said theres also eavesdropping to learn boss weaknesses and scouting an area to find advangates for stealth attacks this will be you on launch, btw
With Bloodborne and Sekiro I think he's really found his footing and is in his creative peak. Best enjoy it while we can because who knows how many classics he's got left in him.
Nathaniel Ramirez
Is the blocking similar to using a shield in souls? Or is it timing like parrying
Asher Sanders
Great "argument", faggot. Really shows how insecure you are about your own product
Camden Edwards
So just like God of War then
Leo Carter
Keep sperging out user, show us what you're capable of
Why did you screencap your own post? Is this the power of souls autism?
Wyatt Green
I may be wrong cause I haven't been autistically stopping the videos, but I think there's different symbols, since there's 3 types of "perilous attacks" we've seen thus far.
it all comes down to game design, the highest regarded bosses in the series are all humaniod, artorias, O&S, gael, watchers, fume, ivory king, etc. it just comes down to design
Brandon Watson
...No?
Thomas Richardson
>muh poise You're a goddamn shinobi stabbing people in the back, not a tank.
Levi Johnson
hmm, maybe it in a language i cant read so im not sure if itll make a difference though
Jeremiah Price
>there's antidotes in the game Here is comes...
Cooper Sanders
>why isn't it like the souls games? Don't care, just want a good game and they usually deliver. You tards bitching about this fucking bullshit don't even like games, just like complaining about ones you haven't played.
Dylan Martinez
Poison was confirmed on one of the loading screens already Cannot be deflected
Daniel Garcia
>another brutal poison level So long as it isn't Farron Swamp levels of faggotry I'm okay with it.
>Manus ? Ludwig ( not one of the most regarded ? ) ? Demon Prince ? Hell even Dancer and Amelia are really good.
Justin Wright
yeah, i hate to say it, but an interview with miyazaki confirmed a poison swamp, as well as other environmental hazards theres even annoying dog enemies in the game
Jose Russell
>O&S >Watchers >Ivory King >Artorias Not humanoid brainlet.
Tyler Torres
>? >Not enjoying a challenging game because you're shit at video games Just don't buy it, stick with Lets Go Pikachu, or any other Nintendo games.
Elijah Hill
>it's a game brooo, it's ok to make mistakes
>70% to lose half of all EXP and money upon death >the percentage increases from 70% everytime you die >dying makes more friendly NPCs die and fucks up the world >top DS/BB players dying literally hundreds and hundreds of times in the 3 hour demo
But there is, as each has to be mannaged a certain way, perfect block, dodge or jump. It's just 3 symbols, possibly, you that lazy? Not knowing the difference will fuck you up.
Andrew Nguyen
Solid video, thanks
Juan Edwards
Sounds like bullshit. Even the main shinobi tree only has 13 nodes
Jordan Nguyen
Dragonrot sounds like such a cool mechanic, totally something From would do. I wonder how deep it goes.
Hudson Wood
Just fuck off to das3 already and take your greatshield and 3 phantoms with you
Carter Sullivan
But muh 1 sword only meme
Levi Peterson
youre probably right, but i just hope they at least look distinct from each other
Jayden Johnson
>wants a GAME to be challenging >cuck Stop projecting your cuck mentality onto other people
Gabriel Campbell
>How will babies cope?
By playing DMC5, while I wait for Sekiro to be available to play between sessions of DMC5
David Rivera
It's only the most basic bitch upgrades, the very first miniboss already gives you new upgrade and it seems you will receive them constantly.
oh and >no bloodstain to run back to and retrieve exp/money
Gabriel James
Runic attacks aren't inherent skills, they're super moves. Frozen flames and chaos flames upgrade weapons.
Austin Brown
Every non-human boss sucks because they’re either glacially slow or have terrible hitboxes
Kevin Rogers
The game is confirmed to be around the same size as other souls games on top of having NG+. I'm very interested in last upgrade of the shinobi tree since it looks like Mortal Blade.
Xavier Fisher
Fine by me, let there ne tons of shit to unlock, so long as you can get everything and don't have to pick and choose like in fucking Dishonored, even if you can only have 3 tools on at once.
Jacob Gutierrez
Dying in 2 hits or a single grab is not fun when bosses do a 10 attack combo and you can't block or evade out of a hit.
Hopefully Sekiro will allow all sorts of split second reaction shit, the zombie protagonists are irritatingly non responsive with their stupid slow attacks and clunky movement
David Howard
Is this the anti-Dmc thread?
Brayden Miller
Is From the GOAT developers? (excluding DS 2&3)
Oliver Wood
Runic attacks are upgradeable with new abilities and the act of upgrading your weapons opens up shitloads of new skill tree nodes
Thomas Carter
No fuck off
Lucas Barnes
I guess that is why permanent XP loss might be a big deal, you will be stunting your growth considerably by dying. I wonder if it has a Nioh-style attack selection menu, because if you add every single possible node I assume there would be multiple contextual moments that require similar inputs.
Benjamin Phillips
I can forgive dogs, but having levels where you CAN'T help getting a debuff no matter how you prepare or could avoid through skill are ass.
Wyatt Perry
Jesus christ no fuck off with the DMCV vs Sekiro shitposts.
Dylan Davis
>these reading skills You’re enunciating my point, retard. The guy I’m replying to doesn’t want challenge.
Christopher Martinez
from what ive heard, you can max out all trees but you wont be able to on one run only, so there is incentive to do NG+
Angel Butler
So what are the odds of one or two prosthetics being way stronger than everything else and the only things you'd ever use?
Adam Murphy
No this is the Sekiro thread
I hope it's longer than basegame DS3 or BB, they're way too short
Jackson Wright
Your bloodstain is the revival mechanic. You can literally just decide to not die when you die. It's like a better, instant corpse run.
While it's not unexpected, I am still a little mad. Maybe you can use the tools to avoid trudging through yet another poisonous swamp.
Ethan Martinez
Probably more like a few prosthetics that you just really like to use. If it's anything like Souls/Bloodborne weaponry, you can use all of them and it's more about what you feel most comfortable with. Certain enemies also have hard weaknesses to certain prosthetics, like Chained ogres to fire and the shield dude to the big axe.
Dylan Cooper
about as likely as those two being different for every player but ive heard certain prosthetics will work better on certain bosses and enemies, so theres at least a reason to tr them all
Xavier Rivera
>I wonder if it has a Nioh-style attack selection menu, because if you add every single possible node I assume there would be multiple contextual moments that require similar inputs. There's a selectable menu for the main special offensive Combat Art and Ninjutsu you can change at any moment because menu pauses the game, but all other shinobi abilities don't overlap, they are always active. You will be able to slide, backstab, perform aerial arts and god knows what else all at once.
And combat arts seem to be really cool since they essentially dictate what playstyle you prefer. One of them is a charged unga bunga slam that restores your posture for example.
You can only gain revivals from defeating enemies I believe, and some people are saying those revivals still count as deaths
Leo Murphy
Pretty low. The prosthetic tools are meant to be more like zelda-esque items with each one serving a specific purpose, not weapons to replace your katana
Hudson Cruz
Every souls game has those one or two weapons that completely break the game so I'm not hopeful.
Adam Evans
I hadn't follow trailers nor any info, but this tempts me to buy day one. I freaking love to battle beasts from the depths.
Sebastian King
well, with the vertical stuff, youll probably be able to get over top most of it, unless miyazaki goes full retard and introduces poison fog or something
Grayson Roberts
>continuously dying fucks up the world and affects the story I hate this.
if this game becomes a masterpiece then yes, cause we wont have to deal with the dark souls series anymore. Hidetaka Miyazaki deserved the freedom he gained and i hope to see more from him
I'd be more worried about the katana combat just coming down to spamming one or two overpowered special moves.
Brayden Moore
METROIDVANIA CONFIRMED
Anthony Barnes
Think positively user: the moment you manage to get good enough to finish the game without hurting your friends is the moment where you truly got good.
Can you only equip a limited number of special moves/combat arts/whatever or can you use them all whenever you want?
Aaron Roberts
pretty high because every game ever made has a best weapon
Mason Anderson
Fuck all of these shills, this game is doa >Pop up tutorials appear for every single item, gadget, ability, and gizmo you collect throughout the ENTIRE game >No levelling up mechanic. Instead, there's a westernized brainlet talent tree that will act as the "rpg" system >If you fall off a cliff into a bottomless pit the game will just insta respawn you back to the perch you were on, no penalties besides a tiny slice of your health taken off. Just like Guacamelee! >The game is SO casualized that there is a mechanic which gives the player 2 lives. If you die, you literally have the option to just respawn right where you are and try again. There are no penalties for doing this. If you end up dying twice, you just respawn back at the last idol you rested at, and again, dying comes with no punishment. And there are plenty of idol checkpoints scattered everywhere, so you'll never have to worry about a long haul back >No weapon variety, you will be using the EXACT SAME katana throughout the ENTIRE campaign. This also means NO upgrading and it means NO infusing. Just one weapon, at one single stat, for the entire game. >Standard everyday Dark Souls items like fire bombs, pine resins, throwing knives, luring skulls, etc, have been placed on a pedestal in Sekiro and glorified as "Metroidvania" style equipment you will be unlocking throughout the game. How exciting! You can look forward to applying fire on a katana, or unlocking throwing knives to throw at enemies! Wow! Ground breaking! >The only truly new mechanics in the game are jumping and the hook shot, which look flimsy and unpolished >Gameplay has been reduced to button mashing with a parry system >Multiplayer is NONE EXISTENT in Sekiro. That means NO summoning, NO covenants, NO fight clubs, and as a result, NO community, and NO replay value. There is absolutely no multiplayer at all in Sekiro. >There is no currency in game, because there are no shops, because there is nothing to purchase at all. The world is empty.
Austin Perry
The very beginning is a metroidvania already. >first miniboss is the ogre, he fears fire attacks but you don't have any >can explore a part of the level and old woman gifts you a bell which enables you to recall your memories >this unlocks a level in your memory painted world style >you can find fire prosthetic there and take it with you to kill the ogre or continue exploration >if you kill the drunkard boss you can't proceed further until you find a key in real world And they confirmed that the game opens up even more in second half.
The main factor will be the level design, I guess. Hopefully it's a section that enables vertical movement, because honestly you can fill a tunnel with poison and make the player walk through, like fucking Earthen Peak. I just hope they give us multiple ways to get through it.
Dylan Taylor
Not necessarily a best weapon that's the best for everything ever though
Daniel Smith
>dying comes with no punishment this copypasta aged poorly
both of these are guaranteed but the point of the game is to figure out what the best shit to spam is
Jack Johnson
I disagree, bosses shouldn't be an R1 fest. I've been playing Bloodborne on NG+7 recently and a lot of the stuff isn't difficult whatsoever because it's so flimsy even when the difficulty is supposed to be insane. If a giant demon thing smashes you, you're going to get injured. These games have always been about beating the odds- if anything I'm hoping they go full scrub-killer since they don't have to consider various builds.
Tyler Carter
yes, it seems they've made sure you want to use more than one by making it almost impossible to kill some enemies without a specific prosthetic
you can only equip one "skill" one "ninja art" and three "prosthetic tools" at a time
Anthony Turner
Sekiro's idea of World Tendency that gets shifted by dying sounds super interesting but part of me fears they're going to end up neutering it to a point where it's completely insignificant similar to how Insight changes in Bloodborne are cool as fuck in theory but in practice they don't change piddly shit.
There seems to be a strong lean on enemies having their own weaknesses, i doubt there's going to be one universal prosthetic tool aside from MAYBE shurikens which seem to be amazingly useful for any situation.
Hunter Rogers
Never got the hate for Farron. You even find a quickstep weapon art before getting there. Blightown and Valley of Defilement were worse.
Christopher Reyes
Get your stalker ass out of the thread
Lucas Reed
well fuck, I hope the skills and ninja arts are going to be decently varied and balanced then so there's not just one go to one that outclasses everything else massively
This is a good thing. I'm not even a leet gamur but you can absolutely walz through Souls and BB after you get the muscle memory down. Something that's a genuine challenge without going down to millisecond simon says bullshit is going to be a godsend.
Angel Johnson
Of course there will be you assclown, that's how it's meant to work. What's the point of choices if there's no actually correct choice because everything is "equal"?
Mason Gray
You can change them literally at any second, menu stops time. It's possible to literally customize your character for the encounter right in a middle of it.
Logan Foster
>>I disagree, bosses shouldn't be an R1 fest. >boss hits you once >spend 5 minutes dodging around looking for a chance to use estus >use it >boss hits you during long as fuck animation >have to do it again
I'd rather have no healing mid-fight and be able to take 6-10 hits desu.
Leo Davis
it won't be insignificant since it just flat out slowly cuts into your income overall with insight if you didnt have it, it was whatever just flat out not getting as much exp or money is a big detriment if you're bad, since it means you will die more, which will result in even less exp in the future
Are they going to have enough button combinations for all of those moves? jeez
Oliver Mitchell
>dying over and over infects the NPCs with an incurable disease This is amazing but it'll make everything so fucking tense, I'll be constantly paranoid since From games constantly autosave to prevent savescumming. I'm so happy to be getting two kino action games in a month.
Genuinely interested in the game because it sounds like it's genuinely punishing for mistakes and rewarding playing well. We still don't know yet how the difficulty's exactly gonna be like but from what I saw at Lobosjr's stream convinced me that this actually might be their most skill-demanding game yet which to me as a Souls veteran is a good thing.
considering how shit throwing weapons and bow is in souls games, I'd say that they will only be situational items to use on enemies you can't reach, 90% of the combat will use swords. >inb4notasoulsgame
so instead they will just be a counterattack fest, because that's user's point souls combat is too defensive. Dodge attack, R1, back up, repeat has been the formula for 4 games now.
>shinobi and latent arts are always active when you unlock them user you're replying to says otherwise. Are there passive and active shinobi & arts?
Justin Kelly
>No levelling up mechanic. Instead, there's a westernized brainlet talent tree that will act as the "rpg" system false, killing minibosses drops item to increase health and posture, killing enemies gives you xp to level up skills >If you fall off a cliff into a bottomless pit the game will just insta respawn you back to the perch you were on, no penalties besides a tiny slice of your health taken off. false, falling shaves off half your health and falling below half is instant death >The game is SO casualized that there is a mechanic which gives the player 2 lives. If you die, you literally have the option to just respawn right where you are and try again. There are no penalties for doing this. false, there is now world tendency mechanics that have impact on your game as well as you needing to kill enemies to be able to resurrect >No weapon variety, you will be using the EXACT SAME katana throughout the ENTIRE campaign. This also means NO upgrading and it means NO infusing. Just one weapon, at one single stat, for the entire game. if you dont count the prosthetic tools and weapon skills, true. and im sure you dont either >game has items and? >The only truly new mechanics in the game are jumping and the hook shot, which look flimsy and unpolished matter of opinion, but subjectively false, the grappling hook gives a vertical option to fights as well as a way to quickly close distance or gain distance >Gameplay has been reduced to button mashing with a parry system false, mashing has proven to get you killed over and over, there is only skill required to win in the game >Multiplayer whooo fuckin carrres >>There is no currency in game, because there are no shops, because there is nothing to purchase at all. The world is empty. false, literally false as of now who the fuck made this pasta
Matthew Cook
soulsniggers want the prestige of beating hard games without actually putting in hours of struggle. that's why so many look up guides to get overpowered shit and duplicate items
Austin Cooper
>Wolf's VA is Hiroaki Iwanaga Myazaki's Berserk fetish cannot be stopped or contained
I'd say so, tools activate with one button, and latent arts are buffs. Don't know how shinobi arts are used.
Justin Perry
Bows can be really good in Souls games, don't be dumb.
Michael Stewart
lets see >saw kills 95% off BB everything efficiently >SS are dps demons on ds3 >ds1 can be cheesed with poise or magic >des has multiple broken pve builds About 100%, just ignore the couple of bad match ups.
Austin Nguyen
DMCV and Sekiro will set me straight for the next few months. It's great.
Ian Murphy
they're pretty fucking broken in DeS and DaS1
Oliver Murphy
Didn't they not go with different weapons and builds and such specifically to avoid this
>after you boost these stats, equip this ring, these arrows, this sword in offhand, and this armor Sekiro doesn't have this. Bows have to be good on their own or be relegated to situational shit.
Ian Thompson
Just run past most of them, lose them, fight with the last guy in the way you traversed. Just making a little more annoying for speedrunners.
Leo Ross
I was still on the fence. But if he's the VA for sekiro, oh man.
Lucas Brooks
Guess I am save scumming :)
Nicholas Parker
>what is replay value
Levi Johnson
Did they reveal what you get when you beat bosses?
Are there passive and active shinobi & arts? You can equip 3 prosthetic tools, and likewise 3 combat arts. Shinobi AND Latent abilities are always active once unlocked. I forgot where I saw this since there's been a few videos released today, but think it was Fightingcowboy's channel. Could have been Juutas, I honestly don't remember, sorry.
Aiden Sanders
I'll just wait for Bloodborne 2, you know, the actual important game that everybody wants.
Bentley Peterson
>Implying the hobo king would accept your filthy coin
Oliver Davis
What new prosthetics were shown today? I just spotted that spear one.
Jose Sullivan
Let's hope it's not an 'I win' button like Nioh's shuriken/kunai
Jordan Foster
At the very least you get boss "memories" but their purpose is not clear yet, probably gives you access to some of their skills as well as a bit of lore boss souls style
Isaiah Ward
what's with you spiteful manchildren
Lincoln Sullivan
>only has featherless chickens Th-thanks Diogenes.
Gabriel Anderson
Thats not new. It was in the second trailer. Far as I can tell no new ones but everyone only played the first 3 hours.
Michael Bell
How are zoomers going to deal with this game if they can't overlevel and summon help?
Charles Sanders
>>no summons, just one tiem characters that will help you and potentially die forever This shit is maybe the most concerning one imo. I'm just not going to use any of them.
Justin Roberts
stfu cunt get a job ignore the retard
Jose Perry
The guy in Sekiro doesn't accept money, he has his own currency and trades for extremely rare shit.
If there is no way to strangle things with the rope of the prosthetic I will be sad.
Jack Ortiz
First run going to use them all for story reasons. Later runs I'll try to save them all and kill them all.
Carson Collins
>he thinks he can save scum
Xavier Price
The mask seems to be extremely important given that From apparently gave real life replicas to streamers who participated in the event. >inb4 Wolf will wear it for some secret power up and ending
dark souls 1 is his best though 10/10. bloodborne is a solid 8,5/10
Robert Kelly
well you can either want to learn more about the game or be kept in the dark and find out for yourself man id dont know what you expected plus weve known about all the bosses shown so far for over half a year now
Jacob Collins
>SEKIRO WILL BE CASUAL SHIT >actually turns out to be far more challenging and punishing than the Souls games Well fuck me all the friendly NPCs will probably die
Justin Diaz
Demon's Souls is his best. He threw ideas at the wall and they all worked.
Julian Morgan
Any pictures of the replicas? Would like to see it in more detail. Would be neat if you could collect stuff that would show up on the character. Maybe small broken armor plates and shoulder pads too or something
Luis Torres
I expected a vid about MECHANICS and a GENERAL IMPRESSION! Not some cucklord explaining a boss without any warning. Fcuking cucklord zoomer streamer generation.
except for most of the bosses. boletarian palace, tower of latria are great, rest is ok but inferior when compared to 80% of dark souls maps.
Aiden Gray
>watch video called first five hours of sekiro >get triggered when there are early game spoilers
Andrew Nelson
I gotta admit I didn't really care about it at first, but it's beginning to look more and more interesting.
Jayden Collins
this faggot literally explained it immediately. dont defend it you fucking cuck. I bet you watch all the streams first so you dont 'have a hard time', kys fggt.
Parker Barnes
Go away retard
Asher Adams
>spear boss on a horse actually reacts when Wolf comes back after being defeated by stating that he will wreck him as much as he needs to
Then sure the map is better. The batshit insane gameplay mechanics are all far superior in Demon's Souls. Invasion in that game is legitimately scary. Every other game its got no weight to losing. World Tendency is still never been touched again in any form except maybe for sekiros blood thing. And all the cool Npc things from Dark Souls were done first and sometimes better in Demon's souls. I quite like all the bosses because they are pretty unique to one another but I'm not gonna fight you on that front because I'm in the minority on that.
Parker Roberts
>muh streamershit bet your big bro never let you play, huh cuck?
Camden Hernandez
B-but I like my Dragoncrest shield. It looks cool and pulls the look together with my armor.
William Wood
I'm so excited for this holy shit
Leo Murphy
>So there's no point in defeating regular enemies? No rewards? I haven't kept up with anything about this game you get exp and money bosses additionally unlock new abilities in the skil tree, so the screenshot that are around are not the real full skill tree, there are many skill missing
Blake Ramirez
yeah, invasions were great in ds 1 and ds 2. not a fan of world tendency, cool mechanic, poor execution.
I liked like most of the bosses, like blind monk, the dragons, gargoyle, spider, flamelurker, dragon king (fite me). but the bad bosses are real stinkers, like that bird-brain thing.
Xavier Rogers
This game sounds fucking terrible
Jason Brooks
des 1 and das 1. das 2 and das 3 and bb casualized it to hell.
Cameron Rogers
christ man you are absolutely seething
Xavier Roberts
Deracine was his best game since the first Dark Souls.
Caleb Cruz
and? Nothing wrong with that design choice. Its just a way of customizing playstyle and adds another layer of progression. Some games do it differently, but that doesnt mean either is inherently bad. Depends on the execution.
Jaxon Thompson
meh I'm bored of from soft games now ds3 left me very burned out
Alexander Miller
Black World Tendency in Demon's would have been so much more meaningful if the cling ring didn't exist.
Charles Fisher
I absolutely fucking love the fact exploration is so heavily rewarded. Mini-bosses drop items for posture/vitality upgrade and new skills, there's a shit ton of useful items like attack and defence buffs, sometimes you can find just simple white talismans to replenish your stock, not to mention hidden NPCs like the barrel guy.
Jose Myers
fucking pathetic
Ryder James
>being on the ground doesn't give you i-frames Oh boy
Cameron Flores
I can definitely see from took some inspiration from God of war
Connor Morris
maybe you played it too long man i dont know how people are still pvping 3 years down the line
Ethan Stewart
do you know what black tendency does?
Kevin Gray
Just all the NPCs in general you can talk to and enemies you can eavesdrop. Can’t fucking wait to search every inch of all the maps to find everything hidden. Only fear I have is the game being rather short
Daniel Hughes
The game was in development for at least 3 years and initially it was a fucking Tenchu entry
Matthew Phillips
They are saying it's around the size of other souls games
Even despite the fact Souls dubs are top tier there's virtually no reason not to play with japanese dub.
Nathaniel Bennett
>in some boss battles you can have NPCs help you with the fight >their deaths are permanent Can’t wait to see the tears when people get destroyed in the game
Brandon Stewart
>first five hours of Sekiro >video is 14 minutes long Hmmm
Shitty joke aside, I fucking hate Vaati. The most obnoxious shill that ever lived.
Elijah Nelson
I know normal Japanese but the way people speak in samurai films (and apparently in Sekiro) is pretty cool and different. That's another good reason to play with the jap dub.
Tyler Parker
To be honest, RPG elements held back the Souls games. Just look like what they did to the Castlevania series. It went from a series known for tight level design focused on testing every mechanic of your character to repeated corridors because the developers needed to account for every kind of playstyle.
Landon Butler
>die too much and you'll fuck up everyone around you Screaming externally
Alexander Long
No it wasn't. It was never going to be a Tenchu game.
Wyatt Gonzalez
since dragons curse spreads through death then the true ending probably requires a no death run
Brody Watson
Bruh...
Cooper Anderson
I’ll play with English dub. I don’t think the dialogue has much impact when I don’t understand the language. It’s different in other mediums lile movies because you can see their face mimics and body language at the same time
I agree, Vaati is trash. But so is most of the soulsborne and from community so it's not like he stands out that much.
Ian Campbell
>for every kind of playstyle. thats immensely retarded and I applaud you for even voicing this nonsense
Jordan Allen
This sounds generic and boring, but it will be sucked off something fierce by critics because From
Samuel Taylor
It was the original vision in pre-planning but quickly got scrapped due to the scope of what they were trying to accomplish.
Blake Bell
It'll be just as casual as dark souls/bloodborne, aka just hard enough for casuals to pretend their super elite hardcore gamer club exists but still easy enough for any retard to complete.
John James
That goes to you
Ethan Clark
Are you going to stay away from Sekiro threads until you have finished the game?
More recent interviews (in particular those by Game Informer) have confirmed this wasn't the case. Definitely inspired by Tenchu, though.
David Thompson
Yes, i will probably filter the name of the game globally after DMC comes out and until i'm done with it.
Jaxson White
when it comes out, yes
Jack Murphy
>has to spoil themselves on a guide to get the full experience. written like a true "video game journalist" aka blogger.
you don't have to do shit, no one is forcing you dickcheese. if you suck shitdick, then it's on you alone. GIT GUD or go back to playing Sony's interactive cinematic movie walking simulators.
Isaac Myers
There's Vitality and the mana one from DS
Juan Torres
Provide links.
Daniel Gomez
They've done a good job of keeping things under wraps. It's pissing me right the fuck off. Right now I want there to be lots of spooky youkai to fight, like those headless dudes.
Christian Hall
Wait did this came out? Or is there a demo I can play or something? If yes, how?? (I play on ps4), sorry but I'm just bad at technology and such...
Noah Lopez
Why lie? It's RPG mechanics have been known for months
Kayden Gonzalez
Getting a bad ending is one thing. But having to listen to all the NPCs in the comfy hub wheeze and cough while rotting away is fucked up nigga
i mean, no OP weapons, no high defense armor, and no summoning already sets this as a tougher game to start and its already proved to not relent on the difficulty either
Jonathan Wood
That's just marketing speak and you know that. >le around the size of the other souls games when each one of them can take vastly different amounts of time on a first playthrough
Nicholas Nelson
Agree with you until Sony baaad part. Most of the PS4 exclusives on their hardest difficulties are way harder than any of the Souls games. You are a retard, probably poor too.
Luke Edwards
You can block almost all attacks The ones you can't, you either dodge or jump
Sounds simple enough
Wyatt Peterson
>you survive instead of dying >except your bad karma goes to other people without power
You can literally facetank every game. But sure bro your super special gamer cred is untouched because you didn't use summons, just like 90% of the people playing the games.
Camden Jenkins
yeah but the hard part comes down to actually attacking, cant just dodge forever
Michael Scott
Most people don't summon. Bloodborne didn't have high defense armor and was just as casual as dark souls. And there will be OP weapons/tools just like in every single From game ever. Keep thinking that you're special.
Lucas Cooper
please someone help I'd love to play this game.. If there is any chance that is
David Lee
I guarantee you that more than 90% of the players used summoning
William Murphy
get fucked, ill beat the game, everyone in this thread will beat the game, and i bet we'll all have a fun time doing it and talking about it keep your negativity to yourself
Eli Gutierrez
demo is not out, people in the games industry (journalists and streamers) got invited to play the game
Isaac Cooper
There is no demo for nonstreamer plebs. Game comes out on the 22nd.
Daniel Diaz
>Mom said only I was this good at video games. All the other kids suck. Get real
Ryder King
enemies drop gold and some items as well on top of the definitely not blood bullets that they did in the demo.
>Most of the PS4 exclusives on their hardest difficulties are way harder than any of the Souls games. You are a retard, probably poor too. fucking lmao. the literal definition of artificial difficulty
Dominic Cox
That's literally my point. You, me, everyone in this thread, everyone that will actually play the game. I'm not saying it's going to be a bad game. I'm saying it's just going to be Dark Souls 4: Electric boogaloo with ninjas edition, so don't expect some super hard core shit.
Jack Garcia
Where is this saltiness coming from lol? Did the the devs diddle you or did you get bullied for being bad at games?
Cameron Butler
I know it's hard to imagine but not everyone is as good as you champ. Most of my friends needed summons to beat Dark Souls.
Justin Jones
From does best with their first game.
DES DS BB
Sekiro won't be any different
Jonathan Williams
>artificial difficulty Cope poorfag shitter.
Ian Morris
What saltiness? I never said the game was going to be bad, I just said it wasn't going to be a super hard game like some people seem to expect. I'm going to get and more than likely enjoy it.
Juan White
well most of the try hard streamers invited out to tokyo to play it all said it was a fucking butt breaker of a game
Nathan Bennett
>Watch all these souls pro players get their shit kicked in and start being like wow I actually have to get good at the mechanics and not just grind levels and upgrade weapons this is so crazy. Have these people never played an action game in their life
Sebastian Flores
??? Theyre all around 30 hours
Justin Brooks
Got a friend who couldn’t even get to Cleric Beast and another who couldn’t get past Cleric Beast after 30+ tries. Both dropped Bloodborne
Blake Taylor
You're being salty over how many people summoned in souls. It's really weird.
Adrian Carter
world tendency was one of the worst "features" of DeS
Streamers also hyped up every dark souls game as some sort of mount Everest of difficulty. They just hype shit up, that's literally their job.
Angel Adams
i actually once read a game journalist article who spent over a hundred tries on cleric
Ryder Richardson
Compared to by far the majority of games released this is classified as a challenging game
Chase Campbell
>Reading comprehension
Christian Powell
yeah i guess but its literally the only exposure we have to the game, so i believe it over nothing
Benjamin Diaz
No it's cool
Tyler Thompson
This. I personally think the game looks good as fuck, but the streamers are souls-dedicated fromdrones. They'll love it, it's literally what they're basing their marketing campaign on. Having all these streamers talk about it instead.
Jayden Myers
It would be good if it was meaningful to use ephemeral eyes, so the player has to consider whether or not to double their health but risk dying and making the level harder. The Cling Ring ruins that
Blake Reyes
It didn't work for DeS because it fucked with items. You're not worrying about gear in Sekiro so it should be perfectly fine and hopefully make enemies and other things change in interesting ways.
Jonathan Brown
Is the world absolutely fucked like every other Soulsborne game? One thing I liked about Nioh's setting was that everybody was still actively scheming and things were only kind of fucked
David Johnson
Good job lying and shitposting.
Henry Richardson
Why go into an event to play the game and try to play it exactly like its a souls game when all they have done is say this one is very different. Half of everyones videos are just "wow I got assfucked cause I tried to play it like a souls game and not the action game that it is!"
>world tendency back, continuously dying fucks up the world and affects the story Do you really think that From in 2019 would bring it back? It will most likely be like hollowing in DS3, they mentioned something about a healer.
Nicholas Scott
True. But watching the gameplay it does indeed look harder.
Can’t roll your way through the game anymore. Now you have do dash, jump and deflect.
Evan Campbell
t.didnt play and just looked it up online. it was fucking A when the game was fresh and everyone was in it, discovering shit. sorry that you never experienced it
Camden Powell
>new game has even less features and gameplay mechanics than its predecessor why are people hyped about this again
Josiah Russell
>New game is not an action rpg but an action game >No one can seem to wrap their heads around this and just complain theres no RPG elements instead. every thread
It has deeper combat system and less boring RPG stat mechanics.
Jose Cooper
Not as fucked but still very dark and depressing
Ryder Baker
read the thread, you lazy fuck
Owen Ross
Watch some of the recent videos. It's definitely not a hollowing reskin.
Henry Wright
It's a fucking Sengoku era Japan and we're infiltrating a clan that commits all sorts of atrocities to gain power. it's as fucked as it can be in context of history.
Camden Harris
>totally ignoring Sekiro coverage because I don't give a shit about the setting and hated Nioh >watch a couple of preview videos today >looks fucking terrific
Well, shit. DMC5 is still getting my March money, but Sekiro will definitely be another purchase from me. The movement looks so smooth, and the atmosphere is palpable. Cool enemy designs with a lot of variety too. It's gonna be a good one.
>100 shallow or reskinned weapons >stats that change which of these weapons you are forced to use >shitty pvp OOOH MY GOSSSSHHH CANT FARM AND OVERLEVEL AND SUMMON HELP NOOOOOOOOO!
Anthony Peterson
>that scene where the players can actually kill a normal rooster
Doesn't matter. The trade-off is meant to be that the player goes into human form to have more health, but also risks making the level harder if they die. That trade-off isn't as meaningful as it could be because of the Cling Ring. It makes it so that your health isn't drastically cut down and you don't feel much of a need to use ephemeral eyes.
>we've already seen footage where the snak ambushes him on some bridge which means it will return for a second round later and to finally get completely wrecked
>it doesn't matter because I don't think it changes the numbers enough ok either way it has other effects like spawning more enemies and increased loot
Michael Morales
dying in soul form reduced world tendency is what you're missing dude
Jayden Morales
>Gyoubu Oniwa's entrance Very nice.
Benjamin Walker
I’m usually not a big fan of that seeting either. But man this one just oozes atmosphere and looks damn fun
Aiden Rodriguez
no it doesn't
Benjamin Gutierrez
Everything you listed sounds amazing. Sounds like you're just a bitch.
Xavier Long
Nah fuck you
Isaac Johnson
well that backfired for you
Charles Jones
Yeah you're right, i guess its an barely-normal rooster
Asher Cook
incorrect
Jace Evans
>Sengoku >things not being fucked Pick one and one only.
Brandon Taylor
I mean this time the setting looks good in sekiro. Really pretty. I'm sure they'll have their own take on the folklore like with their european dark fantasies of previous games.
Luke Cruz
>pinwheel description >barrel merchant >immortal soldier and his lines >the way you wreck the snake >some of the bantz between bandits The game certainly has Miyazaki's goofy style of humour to it.
Dragonrot is really really really cool and I'm super excited now.
Jaxon Jenkins
I'm still not really set on another game in a japanese setting. I wanna fight this feeling since I feel like one of those IGN journos with their "another white male???" shit, but I just feel a burnout at this point. If it was china, fictionalized tk era or something. But Japan again? It feels like we're constantly swapping Japan for Europe and back. Even in Warband I've played Gekokujo the most besides the base game. Maybe its me
Ryder Moore
You know what it reminds me of? Otogi. Also, having just typed that, I realized that's also a Fromsoft game.
I can't believe that I doubted based Miyazaki even for a second, forgive me Lord for I have sinned.
Jace Morgan
How do you wreck the snake? You got a video?
Jace Moore
Not literal end-of-the-world DS3 tier as actually most enemies this time around are humans that still seem to have their faculties, but it's still prety fucked and judging by some enemies it's probably a Bloodborne scenario where everything goes to shit towards the end
Bentley Young
I like how Sekiro comes across as sort of hapless. Whenever he's talking to NPCs he seems slightly out of the loop and reserved.
Thomas Smith
its okay user. In a few years he will have fallen from grace any way
Kayden Reed
I bet the game will involve the 4 Dragon Kings
We know there's a Kappa (headless), and they give your asshole soul to them in myth.
Samuel Morales
I don't see what's the big deal about Japan setting
You know what's even more overused than Japanese seting? European medieval setting, used by the Souls series. And those games are still amazing, because From makes it work by having god tier art and direction. I have no doubt they'll pull through another unique experience with Sekiro
Jose Gray
is there a fucking leak or how do all of you faggots know these things all of a sudden?
The snake doesn't die though, it just stays there sperging like a retard. It will come back to hunt you down in a later time it seems (as seen in the trailer some months ago).
Kevin Jenkins
I loved Nioh will I like this game?
Elijah Lopez
Anyone who thinks world tendency was bad and not one of the most original and fantastic game mechanics of the past 30 years should kill himself.
Christopher Foster
You die, the world slowly dies with you
Christian Wood
They are different, Sekiro seems to be way more movement oriented and with a different approach to blocking and stamina management.
Ayden Watson
I think so.
Tyler Adams
Reminder that it isn't an RPG though, as explained eloquently in many threads now. But that's fine because we have a fairly good skill tree progression system.
Isaiah Ortiz
>A boss died...let's increment the "game is easy" meter by....one!
>world tendency back Fucking good, dogshit """"A"""" team ruined the retard punishing mechanics mechanics found in Demon's and Dark Souls 2 While I admit soul memory in 2 could have done better the principle was there, stronger invaders and less available summons because you're a pathetic noob who dies too much
Brayden Perry
The game is thoroughly connected to dragons. It seems like you can cure dragonrot to some extent but this seems to be a rare as fuck item.
It would be really good if it wasn't for the Cling Ring. Also, if killing non-attacking incidental NPCs (e.g. prisoners in Latria or miners in Stonefang) affected Tendency.
Aaron Roberts
>one tiem characters that will help you and potentially die forever sounds kinda familiar
i'm sure in your case it was >WAH THIS GAME SUCKS EVERY TIME I DIE IT GETS HARDER
Owen Brooks
None of the bosses look good. I'm let down.
John Jenkins
fella on the horse looks cool to me
David Gutierrez
What do you mean? They look pretty damn hype
Carter Gonzalez
this is really how it went: Oh there sure are a lot of bloodstains in the nexus, i wonder why people are killing themselves so often here. Then you find out about world tendency and think it's a dumb mechanic
Robert Diaz
>potential dragon bossfights Given the amount of mobility we have now, I hope they have some competent dragon bossfights that aren't just massive camerabeasts.
Jackson Rivera
>Giant snake kicks in >Crouch inside the bush >Giant snake can't detect the player I'm so fucking done with this game.
Gabriel Brooks
We haven't seen all of the bosses
Oliver Lewis
They're all just humans with weapons, its so dull.
Josiah James
Is that information from the final build, or is that just journo/e3 "gameplay" hype shit?
Ah. Okay dokay. Not interested in the game, just wanting people to be careful what they hype too much Blind hype and fandom isn't good for anyone. You have seen what happened to Zelda and Mario
Landon Nguyen
Oh man I'm really tempted to but I don't want to spoil anything for myself.
Landon Anderson
>I clicked on a video about the first 5 hours of the game and I got spoiled! How could this happen to me?!
Jack Kelly
>xbots so broken now they believe multiplats are exclusives inb4 "b-but multiplats are better on the xbone x!" No thanks, I'll play on pc.
Humanoids bosses are great. It’s gigantic bosses that are almost always problematic.
Wyatt White
Oh but there’s all kinds of monsters later on
Ayden Morris
Anyone got a link for this?
Andrew Rogers
Afaik From have wanted to implement a huge snake in their games for a long time. There was supposed to be one in Bloodborne but was cut. I think they are just proud and showing off the finally implemented one
Ryder Williams
Okay wake me up when we get to any that aren' 'human with weapon'
For a fantasy game this shit has a pretty uninteresting world and atmosphere. I want some fucking cool monster designs.
Aiden Stewart
>t. complained about having to farm blood vials in BB
Jordan Stewart
Git gud and don’t die
Luis Gray
the old bottles were made in a really stiff way that was a hand nightmare to open
John Perez
The trailers have some of them. Look at this big mofo yeti thing
Hope there's a way to stealth kill multiple opponents.
Justin Lee
How it was done sucked, but the idea was cool.
Thomas Gonzalez
Lobos' channel, end of his 20min video
Henry Bell
Not this disgusting degenerate shitbag maggot again
Someone should dox this faggot and get him arrested for stalking
Absolutely disgusting
Kevin Bailey
the blood cloud skill thing looks like it exists to give you this, where you can jump in and backstab someone before the guy next to him notices, kicking up a cloud that lets you then backstab that guy without being detected. Watching it in motion kind of felt like watching someone throw a smoke grenade in metal gear and CQCing a bunch of guys in a row
Oliver Roberts
How long till he starts making movies
Caleb Garcia
>permanent consequences for fucking up too much This is so good but it'll make me go absolutely insane at the prospect of fucking up and dying.
Lucas Green
is there no english VA?
Noah Butler
There is
Jose Gonzalez
Dude, don't be so insecure about what others think.
Thanks for the video.
Brody Nguyen
i kind of doubt that
Grayson Green
It's a good way to give an incentive for using stealth and avoiding combat. I hope stealth is sufficiently hard, though
Jackson Davis
They aren't completely permanent, just hard to reverse given that the item doing so only does it a little and seems to be exceedingly rare.
Ian Morris
Why?
Dylan Allen
The fucking story trailer has an english version are you being stupid on purpose
Kayden Thompson
because Dark Souls/BB have a western setting and only have english VA (I know DS3 got jap VA in a later patch) It would be "fair" if Sekiro only had jap VA since it's a japanese setting.
Julian Morales
what the fuck does that have to do with anything?
Asher Young
He looks like a good boss, even if a generic Yeti looking thing.
Lady Butterfly looks like best so far IMO.
Elijah Martinez
It's the story trailer A preview of the game's story In English Meaning the game's story will have English VA if you want English
Grayson Diaz
>Meaning the game's story will have English VA if you want English sorry but there's no cause relation between the two.
Nathaniel Davis
Gameplay looks good but so far I hate the music. All the worst cliches of Dark Souls with added YOOOOOOOOOO cliche instruments. Demons Souls this aint.
Nathan Sanders
There is, because if it was only Japanese VA it'd be English subtitles only DaS3's trailers were English dubbed but with Japanese subtitles, there were no Japanese dubbed trailers, just like how there was no Japanese dub in the game
Yeah you posted a great game. Fuck you and your stale meme.
Hunter Morgan
You kinda have to if you want the to play the game as intended. Chances are a bit after launch if an area/boss is too difficult for casuals or if a skill is too broken there'll be some nerfs and balancing.
Jacob Wood
DS2 is alright.
With that said, Sekiro is made by the DS1 and BB team, not the DS2 one.
James Turner
>great game >literally the worst in the series >from lied and downgraded the shit out of it Fuck off drone
Hunter King
>shitting on the best game of the series you're not helping your case, bro.
You are one of those kids who fell for the memes propagated by shills like Lobos and ENB. I fell sorry for you. Keep licking matthewmatosis's ballsack.
Brody Powell
It is a good game, with great replayability and PvP but it is not as good as the other games in the series.
Tyler King
This games going to be fucking sweet.
Owen Torres
>le contrarian opinion Go jump off a bridge, moubreathers
Dominic Cooper
Yeah it's a 9/10. In my book that's great.
Elijah Parker
Seen what? Two new games in those franchises come out and be phenomenal?
Carter Gomez
>worst game in the series >still manages to be better than other games from different developers How did those b-team dipshits manage it?
Liam Edwards
you're just projecting that you watch youtubers all day and garble trash
Colton Phillips
anyone could follow the souls formula and make something better than most trash. probably because you like the the formula.
Jack Scott
Sure thing kid. Go back to your rolling simulator and pvp buttfuck party.
PASSED DOWN FROM FATHER TO SON FOR OVER 300 HUNDRED YEARS
Levi Long
Wasn't even a release month buy until the Gameinformer coverage. This new stuff has fully grabbed me and now am 100% there day one. >DMC5, Astral Chain, Sekiro, and later KH3 critical mode all this year 2019 the fucking epicenter for action game goodness.
The Viking to Anglo style of sword making is pretty cool and probably quicker.
They'd wrap the good higher carbon steel around the center low carbon steel. So the entire cutting edge on both sides to the tip, is hard, whereas the center is softer for toughness.
new platinum game with designs by the man who created Zetman, video girl Ai, and Wingman. Future cops seem to have extremely sentai inspired spirit entities that fight along side you to extend combos. Looks like you also do police shit like catch criminals with your spirit chains and whatnot. Supervised by Kamiya whatever that actually means.
Is it really going to have Japanese language as an option? Would be pretty cool for the Japan themed game to have it.
Dominic Baker
I played Sekiro at Gamescon 2018, it was a huge step backwards from Dark Souls
Infinite stamina spamfest, parry replaced by timed blocking, instant Assassin's Creed style stealth kills, and combat basically just boils down to dodging your enemies unblockables (which are telegraphed by a massive glowing red symbol above the enemies head, ala Arkham) while you max out their posture bar for a free insta-kill. Also, you literally are just given extra lives. You can easily escape combat to heal by just zipping away using the grappling hook, and there was no real reason to actually fight most enemies as far as I could see, since the shinobi arm is only really useful against a few gimmick enemies and you can collect the Ninjutsu talismans out of combat so the enemies don't really matter anyway.
It looks flashy, but it's so, so casualized. This is what happens when devs known for difficult games get popular and pander to the lowest common denominator. FROM has clearly abandoned the Dark Souls community, I can only hope Nioh 2 will step up to fill that void