Digimon actually talk

>>Digimon actually talk
Thanks for proving they're worse.

>convoluted evolution mechanics
I keep seeing this argument brought up in Digimon vs Pokemon threads, are Nintendo kids really THAT simple-minded that they don't understand Digivolution? Damn.

Unfortunately, this

>Digimon
>has the excuse
>never uses it and has good games and anime with weight

>Pokemon
>doesn't have the excuse
>fucks up anyway and is safe babby tier trash across all media

Really made me think

>Pokemon only screech or repeat their name
they're speaking their own language that humans don't understand. The name repeating was just a simplified way to portray that because inventing a whole range of invented animal calls to portray emotions and moods for hundreds of new creatures would be unrealistic for a children's video game.

>introducing new Pokemon doesn't make sense as it turns out they've been unheard of anywhere but in the region they're from
Can you tell me every species of every creature on the island of Madagascar without looking it up? Also humans in the real world are literally still finding new species of creatures on earth to this day.

>me like safe rounded colorful bunny!
>me no like big scary detailed monster >:(

Digimon are all ugly
Pokemon are mostly not

So your argument is "it's not shit writing because this other series has shit writing?"
They're both shit you flech-belching fanboy.

cope

Maybe if everyone wasn't constantly forcing comparisons between them and trying to convince people "their" series was better, they could have both been successful and flourished because of their differences instead of their similarities.

seething and bluepilled. both are for literal children

idk, i like the porn of both of them

I love shota

Shut up faggot, the first digimon has good monster design, but come on, now digimons are just giant walking modern art.

For the latter point, it doesn't really "work" in Pokemon, since the new regions aren't some new uninhabited frontiers, or anything, people have always been living there for ages. Which is why it doesn't really make sense that a new region just "pops" up like it does in Pokemon

>gets btfo
>starts seething
based

Digimon had the best girls.

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Which series panders to their genwunners harder, Pokemon or Digimon?

there will never be a single pokemon who's as much of a chad as Gundramon

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>Being THIS mad over kiddie games
OH NO NO NO HAHA

>Convincing anyone
>On Yea Forums
People here are completely set in the opinions they have. There's no logical argument you can make to try to make them say otherwise.

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Unironically looks like something I would've doodled during middle school math class.

>user understand my point
See?

Oof, touched a sore spot I see

No, they are too old

>oof *fortnite dances* touched a sore spot i see

Does Digimon even get any new releases in any form these days? Like games, series, or even trading cards? I hardly ever hear anything about Digimon, meanwhile Pokemon is so mainstream, everybody talks about it so you know almost everything about new poke content even though I don't even actively look for it

>cute waddling animal with chubby cheeks that goes PIKA PIKA
>faggy orange dinosaur that sounds like jordan peterson on helium
Pick one

Literally no game series panders harder to nostalgiafags than Pokemon. But Poketards love to eat Game Freak's shit, so it's the fault of both parties.

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>knows Pokemon has non-existent writing
>tires to drag down Digikino down with it
Not happening boy

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Are you expecting Digimon Survive to be any good?
I look up news on it now and then and there hasn't been anything new in half a year.
Only see brainlets day it's a mix of Danganronpa and Fire Emblem.
They should have stuck to Digimon World 3's style.

I thought this was satire but Gundramon really exists, based digimon

where is fucking digimon survive

There have been multiple games in the past few years. Cyber Sleuth was hyped up as 'the return of Digimon' but it just ended up being a basic as fuck JRPG with a little google translated script.

>people LIKE having slaves, more at 11
Wow it's fucking nothing

they've had 3 ps4/vita games with another coming for switch/ps4, re-released the old digivice toys with new features, and did a reprint of the original cards in a box set.

The strange yellow mouse who goes pika pika

Yes you are correct, when marketing to kids you want to go the first route rather than the second one.

The red dinosaur that likes bread and sounds like Stitch, of course.

Yeah there's still stuff I'm pretty sure, but basically they're Japan only.

Pokemon's lore is literally Adventure Time "This happy and colorful world is actually the result of a post-apocalyptic scenario" tier. XY had the cringiest goddamn story fucking ever. Good lord was it bad.

Remove anime human Digimon and I'll think about it. Fuck waifumons, no matter the series.

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I agree
Palmon is the best waifu

They announced it got delayed.

Which is BS because it was supposed to tie us over till the next big Story game.

There's going to be a Hatsune Miku x Digimon crossover whicn will probably just be merch but still amuses me.

>Pokemon designs are cute and simp-

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I don't like this half erection. I don't like fisting but her expression and being handled like that really gets me.

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BIG IRON BIG IROOOOON

>Pokefags have to start spamming furry porn to cope
What an obnoxious fanbase. Say one bad thing about their overrated series and suddenly they all jump you at once.

>NONONO, YOU CAN ONLY LIKE ONE MONSTER HUNTING FRANCHISE.
Retards.

>Digimon can be characters or animals (or objects or gods etc) in nature
>Pokemon are only animal in nature and feel awkward when they're forced as anything else
Arceus and most other legendaries are gods

>Digimon have their own world with its own internal logic

I recall the Digital world being a lolrandum mishmash of things in the first season

>Pokemon are haphazardly thrown into the real world
They don't exist on anything resembling our earth. It's its own setting
>and never properly explained (do people eat Pokemon,
Yes. There are cockfighters in our world, but people still eat Chicken, too
>do regular animals coexist with them etc)
It's implied there are elephants in the earlier games, but that seems to have been basically retconned so that Pokemon are the animal life of the planet.

These kids have never matured out of the playground at recess what do you expect

It's an objective fact that people who like Pokemon hate any other monster collecting franchise and try to shut down any discussion with doomsaying.

I always preferred Digimon over Pokemon.
Also everyone I knew liked Pokemon because they only liked showing off the trading cards they collected and gave two shits about the actual show.

>has good games and anime with weight
Ha.

it's because you dont collect digimon. You collect pokemon.

Why are Bug pokemon consistently the best?

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Gotta catch 'em all is a real strong fucking gimmick and it's the main thing Digimon lacked compared to Pokemon. While I agree that being able to ditch and ignore the shitty designs whenever they want is a plus it also kind of killed any hope of that idea in Digimon. Plus that mentality leads to the fighting game problem of your favorite Digimon possibly not making it in to the next big installment. And it didn't really help that the old World games were so weird and difficult compared to the simple and easy Pokemon ones which led to a lot of people bouncing off the franchise hard early on. Raising and breeding just one Digimon and hoping it doesn't end up being a pile of shit is kind of a hard sell for a lot of kids especially when directly compared to the game where you can catch and any monster you choose and go between all of the ones you've gotten whenever you want. The newer games have integrated that sort of thing better since you can now actually keep track of and get all the Digimon in a given game but it is still a much more involved process with all the battling, training, de-digivolving and re-digivolving required to get all of them. Pokemon will always be the bigger series mainly because of it's overall simplicity.

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>Not exclusively playing Dragon Quest Monsters

Digimon is based.
I love Digimon World. Digivolutions are fine once you learn the parameters for them.

>w-writing isn't important anyway!

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>tfw a new one is coming out
>tfw we won't get it localized
>tfw even if we go get it localized it'll be full of dumb accents

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I guess Jack is on the level of the Godfather by your logic?

>touched a sore spot
>thread about Digimon failing
lol

Digifags are worse, can't discuss their shitty tomogatchi for edgelords without shitting on Pokemon.

>tfw I unironically like the accents and puns

>Digimon: has incestuous undertones
>Pokemon: no incestuous undertones
It's clear which franchise is superior

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Because the franchise was inspired by bug collection

since we've come full circle to the point where Pokemon now also fuse and temp evolve through 'friendship'

>Pokefags antagonize literally every other monster collecting franchise for years
>Occasionally some of the people they've antagonized shit on Pokemon, especially with how fucking awful the series has gotten as of late because Game Freak are lazy assholes
>WHAT THE FUCK STOP DOING THAT OH MY GOD I CAN'T BELIEVE YOU'D EVER THINK OF DOING SOMETHING LIKE THAT REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Fuck off you victim complex faggot.

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Saving this to repost forever about how much worse Digimon design is than even the trash new toy pokemon designs.

Are the NDS Digimon games any good?

>Digifags still mad about their fave series getting BTFO when they were kids
>Pretend Pokefags still play and watch Pokemon
>Argue on Yea Forums every day about it
Oh dear.

Don't worry, we can just post one of the many examples of Pokemon being a complete joke of a game series.

>Meanwhile Pokecucks refuse to use the board literally created to contain their severe autism
Literally worse than MLP.

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Same, except for the DQ4 remake's Ragnar chapter which is nigh incomprehensible.
It's part of the cute charm of the series for me and helps keep it feeling like a simple, cartoony version of standard fantasy settings.

I mean Digimon games have been consistently shit after World 1 too.
Shame, that game is still a more advanced monster raiser than anything Pokemon.
Monster Rancher is too static 4 me, it's literally a 3D tamagotchi

It's okay kid, Pokemon is the highest grossing franchise ever, while Digimon is nothing, so we're all good ;)

The World ones are, yes

>muh sales means it's good
The typical argument Pokefags always fall back to because they can't say their series is actually good.

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>doesn't like World 3
Top pleb

Kys degenerate furry faggit.

Why do digimon fans always compare digimon to pokemon?
Pokemon fans never compare pokemon to digimon.

Digimon? More like Deadgimon!

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that makes it even worse.
Imagine having a nearly 20 year running anime, TCG, mangas, merchandise, an endless marketing budget, and still shovel out low effort DS games

Pokemon is actually good.

Oh look. Amerilards arguing which series is superior
How quaint

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>Pokemon fans never compare pokemon to digimon
They literally do all the goddamn time. The exact same happens with every other monster collecting series, like Yokai Watch.

i'm not sure drawing a red line on some promotional material is any better user

there are human girls in both

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3 has too high of an encounter rate.
I never liked turn based digi combat.
It's World for me, I feel like I'm telling it what to do

Nope.

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eh they've been consistently shit for 3-4 gens in a row now

why are digifags delusional and obsessed with pokemon
digimon was never popular with its only mainstream appeal ever being a edgy tomagotchi.

Yet no one gives a shit about Digimon.

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It's sort of like being a Smashfag

nuPokemon mostly are, though.

Dumb amerifat

But smash is popular.

Digimon is high test and high IQ

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>Pokemon Sword and Shield look really bad
>Digimon Survive has been delayed and the RPG has yet to be announced
I just want to play good games.

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imagine being a faggot like you

>omg digifags are like, so obsessed....
>Meanwhile like a dozen Pokefags immediately flock to the thread to defend their shitty company's honor

Convince me why either one is good instead of me shitting on both

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Imagine watching/playing either after your early teens.

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artist?

I don't want to sound like a brainlet but the Pokemon after gen 5 have been hit or miss for me.
not to mention gen 7 really pissed me off because every region-bound mon had the Alola curse, meaning they were fucking slow as shit despite of their dex entries saying otherwise.
however, I still had a little fun.
after gen 4 the Pokemon designs started to look 50% well-done to me while the other 50% were mediocre.

>they were fucking slow as shit
The classic - a slow, frail, mixed attack
I have no idea what GF's obsession is

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>Pokemon
>soul
>Digimon
>soulless

You need these two words to describe the difference.

Kids can sense it by nature.

I really can't think of anyone who preferred the latter from my childhood.

not him, but if you can shut-down your modern expectations, you might enjoy the older games of digimon AND pokemon.
after trying for example Pokemon G/S/C and Pokemon GoD, or the Digimon World games you'll start to compare them to newer entries and become attached to those games.

>Game Freak actively cuts out content and releases each game with even less, and even makes it somehow less difficult than it already is
>Pokecucks let them get away with it
What a joke of a series

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early Digimon were animals mashed with cybernetics and technomagic
now it's all waifufaggotry and sentai mechs.
early Pokemon were animals mashed with elemental powers and folklore
now it's all cutesy Yokai Watch chibimons or fuckhueg edgy complicated Digiesque legendaries

you can't win.

>You need these two words to describe the difference.
You're right, Pokemon is really soulless while Digimon is bursting with soul, you can see the latter was made with passion while the former is just being pumped out for the money.

digimans was always peak soul
t.genwunner

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I loved both for different reasons when I was little, which never changed and Pokemon and Digimon both are at the top in my book.

>"""""""soul"""""""
>"""""""soulless"""""""
on the same level of shit memes as boomzoom

I don't care for what you say, no one does, but you don't help your case by posting a spinoff title.

Soul is the default word of choice for one who has no ability to argue.

FUCK that loser Ash

>TH-THEY'RE SPINOFFS!!!!
>I-I don't even c-care...
Nope lol
Stay butt devastated Pokecuck

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GF is retarded as you know, there's nothing else to it.

>do people eat Pokemon
No, they've explained this numerous times

>do regular animals coexist with them etc
No, only pokémon

Just like rick and morty

How are they not spinoffs?

This bro right here needs his own edgy shoot em up game

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>what are slowpoketails
they do eat pokemon. In the manga they literally slaighter each other in battles.

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Cope

>All these digifags shitting on pokefags
>All these pokefags shitting on digifags
Why can't anyone just like one but not hate the other one?
I myself manage to like both series just fine.
I still prefer digimon a bit more.
Also Monster Rancher is also pretty fun, it's surprising no one tried to copy the game's formula after the franchise died.

they eat farfetched.
Whole episode based upon the fact. It's why they are so rare.

Okay, how are they not spinoffs?

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why is he named after a bucket
seriously

This, you can even become a 5 meter tall knight in shining armour and a fuckhuge shield when fusing to him

>Pokemon
>Digimon

Why do Americans like them that much?

I think they are the only people on the earth who like to argue over those things when they are adults.

It's no different than the Mario v. Sonic le ebin 90's rivalry that some fat autists still latch onto today

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rip Monster Rancher. you were too good for this world.
I loved MR just as much as Pokemon and Digimon but such is life.

for me it's Tomba and Klonoa.
Mario is mediocre and Sonic has like 3 okay games overall.

Problem with Digimon is that is very edgy so only troubled teenagers can identify with the show and most of the characters while Pokemon has a more laid-back nature which is why you can find the average adult who still likes the games and designs, most are just animals anyway while digimon are war machines that can talk and act human-like. That shit is cool as fuck when you're young but gets harder to like once you grow up.

>muh franchise akshually has to be enjoyed by high intellect individuals such as myself

bruh

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Yes, despite Pokemon being literally the highest grossing media franchise of all time, ONLY Americans care. Man, you third-worlders sure love to seethe about America 24/7 don't you?

Great rebuttal, your edgelord is showing.

I am not sure why you think that only Amerilards love to discuss Pokemon and Digimon but maybe you shouldn't enter a discussion that's not interesting for you anyway.
also, adults aren't always the same.
it also depends on when they were born and how they grew up.
maybe you feel like shit that you can't take part in a discussion because you never grew up with the things in the topic or you just never had any interest?
anyway, there you have it. the ones who like Pokemon and Digimon usually grew up with them.

Cringe Digiautist

At least they don't talk and tell the protagonist to defeat master evil guy with the power of friendship.

It might be because Americlaps probably have the worst nostalgiaboners out of any country
Like it's weird that they will latch onto old games or rivalries from nearly two decades ago but don't actually give enough of a shit to play any new games

literally only americans and japs care.
I haven't seen someone talk about pokemon irl since like the GBA.

also, nobody likes america world police. You're Hitler and Stalin fused times 1000

Why was Gatomon so tiny considering she was on the same digivolve tear as shit like Angelmon?

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>Meanwhile first Pokemon movie where Ash literally got brought back to life because of everyone CRYING
lmao

>trust your pokemon
>your pokemon needs to trust you
>not power of friendship
sure.

Digimon and Pokemon suck.

no, you just find a small cloudy puffball that's weak as shit and it turns into a legendary sun powered war machine with legendary crystaline armor
literally digimans
>inb4 no pokemon are better
I love both so I don't care. They both fell through in quality hard.

name one franchise more than 3 countries care about

but they use the same concepts

what I never got is why Gatomon never changed back to rookie level.

Game Freak probably considers them the second wave of remakes, so just like FireRed is a gen 3 game, Let's Go are gen 8 games.

FIFA :^)

That too.

>because you can just write over it
It's almost like they're digital monsters.

to add to this, didn't Pokemon add a literal digivice and mon-specific special attacks a few gens ago?
They were always pretty similar but come on.

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>99% of Digimon have a name that ends in "mon"
FAGGOTMON
DIGIVOLVE TO:
FUCK-OFFMON

The trust trainers have with their Pokemon is the same kind of trust people need to have with certain animals like dogs and horses to work together, it's easy to identify with this at any age than literally talking animals.

>sounds like fanfic tier writing where nothing has any real weight to it because you can just write over it.
As opposed to the masterful world building of Pokemon:

>children stop attending school at the age of 10
>they leave home and travel the world unsupervised, spending their days violently torturing wild animals and enslaving them to fight other tortured and enslaved wild animals in competitive fights
>this is considered a praise-worthy and positive career path

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Jlullaby

Pokemon are exclusively combat tools whereas Digimon are actual v-pets.
Pokemon can talk too, Meowth learned by observing people.

Pokemon not only added a Digivice, but a Yokai Watch as well. That's how fucking desperate Game Freak are for ideas.

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Friendship is literally a mechanic in Pokemon games and has been expanded since gen 6.

it's sad. They have a bottomless budget and marketing to match no other, yet they still shovel out early PS2 tier games.
I wish they just stepped it up.

Mega Stones ripped off Digimon
Z Moves and Rotomdex ripped off Yokai Watch
The first Pokemon game ripped off SMT.

It would be nice if Game Freak actually bothered to keep ideas from previous games in future installments, regardless if they are gimmicks like Pokemon following you around

To showcase that he is better than crummy Pokemon creatures

why is Whisper so red-pilled?

lol your shitty digimon thread got taken over by autistic pokemons faggots obsessed with a game for children

Pokemon both in later anime and games jist fit the role of normal animals, Police uses Growlithe, there are Ponyta races and other examples. Mewth is the exception of the rule and is used as comical relief more than anything.

I thought early Pokemon designs were lifted off Dragon Quest Monsters

b-but no user you don't understand, that's how they make each generation unique!!

if that one leak is true and armour evolutions are going to be a thing then that would be the second time they ripped off Digimon

Di-gi-mon digital faggots
Digimon are irrelevant

>evolution mechanics that aren't needlessly convoluted.
Just dont let your digimon shit on the floor and dont overtrain. Its a pet bro take care of it, Want giganiggamon? Focus on str or what ever and see what you get. Will usually turn out pretty cool.

Half the thread turned into people shitting on burgerclaps and both series to be fair

>tfw you get a Megadramon or HerculesKabuterimon on day 8-9

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>Digimon actually talk
>Pokemon only screech or repeat their name (depending on game vs anime)
>Digimon can be characters or animals (or objects or gods etc) in nature
>Pokemon are only animal in nature and feel awkward when they're forced as anything else
good. Pokémon are animal bros. Digimon are weird anthros which only appeal to literal furries.

>Digimon have their own world with its own internal logic
>Pokemon are haphazardly thrown into the real world and never properly explained (do people eat Pokemon, do regular animals coexist with them etc)
it needs no explaining. if there were other animals, you'd see them. we repeatedly see Pokémon being eaten and as farm animals.

>a shit Digimon design/concept can safely be ignored in future game/anime installments or fixed at will
>a shit Pokemon design/concept forever mars the Pokedex
>introducing new Digimon is painless and makes sense
>introducing new Pokemon doesn't make sense as it turns out they've been unheard of anywhere but in the region they're from
only autists care about this. other regions have heard about it before, it just gets retcon'd. it doesn't work any other way, because game freak has no fucking time machine.

>companion Digimon are partners and can digivolve back and forth
>companion Pokemon are pets and are stuck with their shitty forms forever once they evolve
if you like your bro, you will like his final evolution. if you don't, don't evolve him.

Digimon is chuunishit for autist manchildren and they all look like garbage, every single one.

I have no idea on that part honestly, wouldn't be surprised if that was true too.

it's literally only you who cares this much, bugman

It's great brand recognition

Because he's based

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yeah they pretty much lifted a few dozen straight from Dragon Quest and made them a tad edgier.

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They're digital programs, that's their filename extension

He just is. If Yo-kai Watch stuff ever gets into Smash I want a stage with a Palutena's Guidance-like gimmick where Whisper reads off partially-accurate information on the fighters from his pad.

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>wait a minute bro, I need to reload all these guns
>bro I can't do it, digivolve me back into a literal piece of shit or whatever
>I'm sorry bro…

here's your Graveler bro

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That's actually a great idea

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>Pokémon are animal bros. Digimon are weird anthros which only appeal to literal furries
This is what the faggolas on this thread seem to fail to understand, just any Animal liking people can identify with Pokemon while digimon mostly panders to edgy anime watching troubled teens. And this comes from someone who was really into Digimon on my angsty teenager phase.

oh shit you found me out
it is actually me who cares this much, not the manchild who spends his life making threads about a failed franchise on Yea Forums
how could this happen to me????

it's called baiting and you fell for it
Most people who grew up with first two gens love Digimon since they were released back to back.

Most people think digimon is irrelevant nowadays.

>digimon only appeals to furries, not muh pokemon though

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and Pokemon is only cares about zoomers who played Go first and manchildren desperately clutching to their childhood.

oh man I fumbled that sentence hard sorry I'm drunk but yoy get the point they're both boomer shit noe

>is only cares about
?

pokémon appeals to regular people (which is why it's successful) and furries (because furfags want to fuck everything that remotely looks like their childhood dog, which is probably the only being which ever liked them).
digimon appeals exclusively to furries.

Digimon was never the most critically acclaimed cartoon series in the world despite of being really good.
it's more like a hidden gem that got tainted when the staff tried to re-awaken the magic that is Digimon gen 1-3.

I dunno I was typing while spaced out

Why do pokemon and digimon fans hate each other and argue

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Terriermon is a hundred times cuter.

Digimon fans always start shit
Pokemon fans like the rest of the majority of the world don't even remember/know digimon exists

it's just bants like balkanites or nips and gooks

>Muh victim complex, we wuz gud bois we dindu nuffin

retards, what else?
I am way smarter than fans who stick to one thing because I like both things, making me superior compared to them.

>Tamagatchi for Boys Vs. Team builder rpg with trading
Dumb comparison, Digimon has video games but they have no consistent design because Digimon was never a rpg franchise at its core.

its weird more pokemon dont talk

or you'd think the psychic types at least would be the most popular as they can mentally communicate to you and arnt held back by physical limitations.

Gardenvoir,Metagross and Alakazams at least anyways..

I want to marry Gabumon!

Gay

The only thing I remember about Digimon is that we used to bully that one weird kid that preferred it over Pokemon back in the 90s.

Blame Bandai's stupidity. Even when Digimon's popularity was at it's peak, they almost entirely relied on the anime's success rather than also taking time to focus on the V-pets.

GF doesn't think ahead.
the potential that is inside the Pokemon series is astonishing.
>Pokemon talking
>telepathy
>revamp of the turn-based formula ala FF
>town/home management
>huge amounts of exploring
>trainer is actually involved live in battles
>custom designable moves

Pokemon peaked at Gen 1 and 2, nobody has given a shit about it past that
until Go and Sun and Moon revitalized interest

Then who kept buying games?
>Sun and Moon
Lol
Go carried the entire time

Why you think people who likes Pokemon would like to see them talking?

Retards who bought it cause Pokeman and dont even care to finish the games and literal kids who needed shit to play on their DS obviously but Go is probably the closest its ever gotten to the craze that happened when it first came out

GIVE ME GUNDAM RPG OR GUNDAM BR NOW.
I will accept a gundam gacha.

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And then they completely ruined Go, hilariously enough. The Pokemon property can literally do nothing good anymore.

But Masuda said Gen 3 is what made him realize that Pokemon wasn't just a fad

>digitards

it would improve or further the lore in the world of pokemon.
also, it would prove that pokemon would become more intelligent as time passes, not in the real-world but in the fictive pokemon world.
come on, it would be interesting and arouse actually real interest in the series again.

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SD Gundam cross rays on steam this year brother

Pokemon for the games, digimon for the anime. This has always been the case.

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Fucking this.

what is "real interest"?

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>Pokemon is a monster collecting game, while Digimon is a monster raising sim. Despite Pokemon being generally friendlier looking, and the franchise emphasizing the bond between monster and trainer, Pokemon are largely collectable RPG party members in game. The 'raising' aspect is merely having your monster beat up other wild monsters until they're big and strong. You don't have to dote on you pet, make sure it's fed, cleaned, happy, or anything else. Even when mechanics like natures were introduced, this only meant that powergamers had another element to consider when grinding to get the best team, and a multitude of Pokemon would be tossed out because it had the wrong nature. The Pokemon Amee seems to be the closest the game gets to getting trainers and pokemon to bond to each other beyond being collectables. There's a reason people reacted to Nuzlocke runs the way ther did. Digimon, on the other hand, is all about parenting your big, mean-looking cyborg dinosaur. In the v-pets and the games that take after them, you only get one Digimon (except for that time where you get two). You have to raise it from a baby/child: feeding, cleaning, doting, training, and waiting for it to grow up. Even when it's an adult, you have to clean up after and potty train it because Bamco thinks poop is funny. The core Digimon experience is playing mommy to a monster, and frankly not a lot of people click with it. There are plenty of Anons who complain about getting Numemon in DigiWorld 1, and people who are annoyed in general about having to do so much for a single monster. It's a commitment of sorts, at least far more of one than Pokemon, which are trading cards in comparison. If Digimon had stuck the the V-Pet adventure formula used in DigiWorld 1, I can guaruntee it would still be niche because of how raising monster work, much like Monster Rancher. It can be said to be too much like work.

actual video game for games
zoids for anime

It also came into existence much later

If I was given the option of owning any Pokemon, including legendaries, or a Digimon, I'd obviously choose the latter.

At least the latter allows for different evolution lines if I work hard enough.

not anymore since Digimon games have become better than the anime, meaning that the anime has gotten pretty shit as more season were created.
as for Pokemon, the games stayed the same whereas the anime got even better, meaning that pokemon games are stale while the anime is improving.
what you say only applies to earlier time of Pokemon and Digimon.

>Pokemon talking
Pretty sure that's one of the niches mystery dungeon is supposed to fill

>Used to have Zoids toys
>No clue what happened to them
Alas, forever contained in a box somewhere I will never find.
... or they got tossed out or sold in a garage sale.

buying the games because of innovation, not because they sold so many games in the past.
why do you think that people think LGBT is shit? because it's appealing to KANTOOOOOOOOOO and GO audience. who just jumped on the bandwagon, only to jump off again.

My local Walmarts have Hacker's Memory for $10. Totally worth it.

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>tfw I want to dev a pokemon/digimon game
I just want a combination between Pokemon Crystal and DW1, with DW3 sprites.

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Well the anime covers it well enough. Talking is actually very difficult to learn how to do, Meowth can do it though sheer willpower/speech lessons/power of love, and the only other pokemon that can do it are legendaries and other pokemon that have had thousands of years to learn, pretty much all psychic types as well. Though psychic types can speak through Meowth. If you really care about the lore behind talking pokemon that much.

In any case pokemon are supposed to be pets I guess, so the whole talking idea I think is a pretty bad one. This is a case where less is more.

Talking Pokemon isn't really going to innovate the series any more than following Pokemon

The worst thing about these threads you can sense they're made by people who's understanding of Digimon is the multi-media franchise and not understanding that its comparisons to Pokemon are a false equivalency.

They don't get that Pokemon was MADE an rpg and Digimon was made a little key chain toy. Look at the retard in this thread who doesn't quite get that the Digivice was the anime's reference to the tama even though it didn't look like it (until later gens of the tama).

Digimon has basically been dead since the Tamagotchi fad died, they even went the card game route before making videogames which some user here remember as being the first Digimon related media and not the virtual pets. The videogames aren't good and lack a distinctive concept because the idea of digimon (as in, the idea that made it sell) isn't related to a videogames.

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>town/home management
god no. easily the worst part of any non-RTS/Minecrap game.

>Pokemon talking
I could really do without. I feel like it would make things...weird. I mean Entei talked along with a handful of other pokemons. Did you not see how shit hit the fan when they made Pikachu speak English?
Speaking Pokemon is verboten rule that should only be broken in doujins or something.

>revamp of the turn-based formula ala FF
wouldnt mind seeing this. I mean we had Pokemon Snap and that shitty Ranger not to mention mystery dungeon series. Could def get behind a system like that

>trainer is actually involved live in battles
im sorry what? how is a normal 15yr old gonna go head to head with a 203240kg murder machine Steelix?
you gonna hit a Nidoking with a stick or something?

>custom designable moves
never gonna work. Kinda sounds retarded too.
"no no no this isnt water gun this is uhhh water SPIRAL! totally original!" almost every move has been thought of already

I don’t like digimon because fucking them would be weird since they talk

Digimon World is the de-facto monster raising game to this day though.
Only recently have they re-dipped their toes into the formula.

But unlike Pokemon there are loads of digimon that no one would judge you for fucking, like Angelwomon.

And ofc, Tamers are the best of all Digimon shows.

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We had the secret bases and underground things which were basically home management. I don't know if that's what you mean.

Gen 5 and below > Yokai Watch > Digimon > Modern Pokemon

oh god I forgot about that shit.
yeah where you mine around and look for fossils and shit while occasionally running into a random encounter?

GOD that fucking sucked. Also we DID already have home management. I remember in one of the pokemons you could buy shit to move around in your room back where you lived.

I don’t care about that, I just don’t want them to talk back to me user

This

this but unironically

Yes it's good that they're trying to re-blend the original tama concept into an RPG, the problem is that they haven't done it in a way that's fun.
Part of the reason the Tama was successful is the same reason Tamas in general were successful.
You could take them anywhere and they'd be at your side ready to be interacted with as a pet sim. Then if you met someone with one, you could casually link them up and have them do their little battle sequence (The core thing that made them a hit with boys).

You really would need a Digimon rpg to function like this, like on a hand held and with no online matchmaking bullshit. Honestly the more I think about it, the more a successful Digimon revival sounds like a phone game.

>pokémon games are not shit

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sure, but if there were some pokemon showing that they're capable of holding a conversation with a human-being it would make thing a little more interesting. maybe it's just me.

>how is a normal 15yr old gonna go head to head with a 203240kg murder machine Steelix?
no, I mean it could be something like creating an opening for your mon to finish a Pokemon off by making the incredibly dangerous opposing Pokemon angry or something. making fights a bit more tactical would freshen up things.

>>custom designable moves
>never gonna work. Kinda sounds retarded too
well, I mean maybe in dual battles your Pokemon could use two attacks that intensify into something else to deal severe damage.
maybe it would be retarded. I don't know.

more dynamic use of the secret bases and shit would be cool.

At least Digimon tries to mix it up with most of their games instead of just rereleasing the exact same one with new shit added in.

I'd kill for a mobile Digimon World tbqh

nobody is mad at Gamefreak for releasing the same game, rather they're mad at how fucking lazy Gamefreak is at doing this.

new pokemon is souless af though since gamefreak can see they no longer need to put effort to sell millions anymore
digimon is at least trying to get soul back with world next order and cybersleuth but i doubt it will surpass pokemon anytime soon

Kids are retarded and will happily play the simplest, repetitive and money grubbing garbage if it happens to be the current trend.
Personally I never gave Digimon a chance as a kid because I thought of it as something akin to Chinese bootleg Pokémon. Having played my first Digimon game fairly recently I can say that the two series are very different from each other. Now I wish I hadn't missed out on Digimon as a kid.

wasn't it almost literally said in gen 6 that the power of friendship defeats the big bad?

in the games digimon are pets. in the show they're friends

pokemon are basically living trading cards. Pikachu is no different than yugi dark magician in both the games and show. They are just things to collect and be used for a single purpose

but if that's true then why do pokemon have more porn than digimon, are you implying normal people fap to furries too?

It will most likely never take off but I encounrage you to try anyway
as long as it can stand on it's own and it isn't just "x clone"

so, Dragon Quest Monsters?

>pokemon
>you tame a dumb animal and train it until it evolves into a stronger dumb animal
>digimon
>you tame a pile of data that can evolve into literally anything because it's data
>yokai watch
>you tame a 7 year old girl that died in a bathroom during world war 2 and train her until she evolves into a yandere middle schooler.

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digimon definetly has more soul
i like that its not scared to go overboard with the designs. meanwhile pokemon is scared to have new gen mons show teeth

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>Formatting go mangled and can't delete post
Stings a bit. Correcting.

>Pokemon is a monster collecting game, while Digimon is a monster raising sim.

Despite Pokemon being generally friendlier looking, and the franchise emphasizing the bond between monster and trainer, Pokemon are largely collectable RPG party members in game. The 'raising' aspect is merely having your monster beat up other wild monsters until they're big and strong. You don't have to dote on you pet, make sure it's fed, cleaned, happy, or anything else. Even when mechanics like natures were introduced, this only meant that powergamers had another element to consider when grinding to get the best team, and a multitude of Pokemon would be tossed out because it had the wrong nature. The Pokemon Amee seems to be the closest the game gets to getting trainers and pokemon to bond to each other beyond being collectables. There's a reason people reacted to Nuzlocke runs the way ther did.

Digimon, on the other hand, is all about parenting your big, mean-looking cyborg dinosaur. In the v-pets and the games that take after them, you only get one Digimon (except for that time where you get two). You have to raise it from a baby/child: feeding, cleaning, doting, training, and waiting for it to grow up. Even when it's an adult, you have to clean up after and potty train it because Bamco thinks poop is funny. The core Digimon experience is playing mommy to a monster, and frankly not a lot of people click with it. There are plenty of Anons who complain about getting Numemon in DigiWorld 1, and people who are annoyed in general about having to do so much for a single monster. It's a commitment of sorts, at least far more of one than Pokemon, which are trading cards in comparison. If Digimon had stuck the the V-Pet adventure formula used in DigiWorld 1, I can guaruntee it would still be niche because of how raising monster work, much like Monster Rancher. It can be said to be too much like work.

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Main series Pokemon should just die off and Mystery Dungeon should take over as the main canon.

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Still infinitely better than most Digimon games. There are some truly terrible Digimon games out there while Pokemon at its worst only got mediocre.

You do know Pokemon has spinoffs right, which include action-adventure, fighting, dungeon crawling, and a bunch of other genres, right?

Why are digimon girls worse though?

Games that aren't made by Game Freak and are no longer being made? Yes.

>digievolutions are often non linear
>digievolutions are just temporary power ups
>the children in the anime were basically there as cheerleaders since Digimon were smart enough to do shit on their own
>Digimon can shit
These are the reasons why Digimon never stuck to me. Frontier was my personal favorite series because the kids actually transformed into the digimon so they felt less useless.

>the obscure underperforming PS1 Digimon game looks better than literally any Pokemon game ever
This really activated my almonds

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In a perfect world that happens
Why are we still stuck in this shit timeline

>At least Digimon tries to mix it up with most of their games
That's one of Digimon's biggest issues. They don't have a consistent series. They're doing what Square Enix does with Final Fantasy and changes it up for the sake of changing it up. Digimon should have a consistent series instead of every game release being a completely different genre or sub-genre.

They aren't. The digigirls just get much less attention and are overshadowed by the female digimon

pokemon go counts and it was pretty successful

>Why should a series ever try and innovate and evolve instead of staying comfortably complacent and never going outside their comfort zone??

>Nintendo kids actually LIKE every single game being exactly the same as the first one
Jesus Christ

People also dropped that game in droves after the first few weeks because they fucked it up beyond repair, and Pokemon GOfest is still a gigantic disaster.

Digimon is the most heartful out of the two franchises, anyone who has actually followed both knows that. There is nothing in Pokémon that compares to Digimon's most emotional moments.

>No longer being made
you do know Pokken Tournament, Detective Pikachu, and Pokdemon Quest only came out within 4 years ago, right?
Pokemon will always get spinoffs, because you know, it's Pokemon. BTW Pokemon Quest was made by Game Freak

Those are poop so it doesn't count!

even the DS games had better spritework than the DS Pokemon games in regards of the battle designs

>In a report by SensorTower, it's now been revealed that the app has made a staggering revenue of $1.8 billion
>making 2 millions per day in july 2018, 2 years after release
detective pikachu is also releasing a movie in may

Except that's what's harming Digimon in the first place. Digimon SHOULD have one series that has a consistent release and genre. I never said that Digimon shouldn't innovate, but a lot of Digimon's innovations also suck.

I don't see the issue, because I can play the spinoffs if I want something different, which I do.

It's not an issue of whether or not it's "better", it's a question of which is the more consistent business strategy. Pokemon is successful because people can buy it every two years and know exactly what they're going to get. It would be less successful if it didn't have a consistent formula, just the same as Madden or Call of Duty would be less successful if they were a platformer one year, a puzzle game the next year, a Devil May Cry clone after that, etc. Consumers are more likely to buy something that they already know they like.

Look, a retard who has no fucking idea about pokémon.

Maybe you should play an actual good game instead.

that's why spinoffs exist but digimon has no mainline unless you count digimon world and that changes every time

So Digimon isn't good? Because I do play those games after all.
I do play other games as well, just so you know.

and World of FF managed to trump both with only a single installment

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what game?

>Digimon is go-
OH NO NO NO NO NO

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>the man with no arguments
He precisely pointed out why Digimon isn't successful: It does not have a uniform line of games, that can be said to be "real/normal Digimon", unlike every other successful series.

spoonfeeding squad, reporting in!

that game was good but it could've looked a lot more better if it hadn't been originally a Vita game

Is that legit? It also sounds more like something a trAshnime gionist would say.

>no chewing or pooping animations
it's soulless.

You don't get the point, user.

What is there to get? The absurdity of the pic with a godlike being barely fitting inside a normal-sized cafeteria?

yeah. They cut the episode where a Safari Zone clerk points a gun to Ash's head

Pokémon is successful because of a lot of things. Whether they would enjoy more success or less if they had changed things up between releases is impossible predict. Likewise it would be impossible to predict if series that change things up between releases like Final Fantasy or Ys would be more successful if they had a more consistent formula as you put it.
>Consumers are more likely to buy something that they already know they like.
I could just as well argue that consumers are less likely to buy a sequel if they know it's the same old thing they've already played before.

Well, if it's about the trAshnime, I don't see what relevance it has or why I should care.

>digimon look dumb
>pokemon are cute
nope, the right series succeeded

okay name one trainer that has a firearm in the games

digimon fucking sucks i like pokemon its the best

Guns are useless and outdated in the Pokémon world.

except not really if they're used to hunt down Safari Zone mons

So, how's Tri?

didn't they censor remoraid and octilerry so they barely resemble weapons anymore?

its not very good, poor characterization, slideshow tier animation, and poor resolution of its plotlines meaning the next movie series will probably be forced to pick up the slack

yeah, Octillery originally had an SS Stahlhelm lmao

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Because he is a low key Chad.

obviously well-liked betamon coming through :D:D

seriously, fuck GF.
Octillery and Remoraid from were looking way better, too.

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>pokemon designs are go-

they made sense considering their namesake.
a revolver and a tank make way more sense than a normal remora and an octopus.

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I prefer the actual Remoraid but this Octillery is neato.

What this guy said.

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>>pokemon designs are go-
well, you're not wrong.

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What do they call this ship? Hitaichi? Hikachi? Taikari?

>BTW Pokemon Quest was made by Game Freak
Further proving the point that all Game Freak can do is shit out awful boring games

I remember hearing something about a guy working on hacks for Digimon World 1. What ever happened to that project? Said something about adding more Digimon and more story elements.

that shit looks ridiculous tbqh.
I always despised Garchomp'a design

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Fuck yeah.

Coatl, Rainhawk, Slime+99 best team.

That looks like a Quetzalcoatl sperm.

it's probably in the works considering the same team made fan translations for recent games.
World 1 has a shitton of unused content that can only be acquired through gameshark or once in a lifetime memory card gifts.

well, a base Garchomp still looks infinite times better than Mega Garbage.

>Pokemon only screech or repeat their name (depending on game vs anime)

Some Pokemon do talk via telepathy

>Pokemon are only animal in nature and feel awkward when they're forced as anything else

This is also wrong (see: the anime)

>Pokemon are haphazardly thrown into the real world and never properly explained (do people eat Pokemon, do regular animals coexist with them etc)

Again, wrong. Pokemon are in a fantasy world based on ours. Yes, people eat Pokemon, and no regular animals don't exist in their world.

There's already a Quetzalcoatl Digimon

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I would rather fuck a Digimon than a Pokemon.

Go isn't carrying the franchise, the anime and the merchandise it sells are.

because there a human-like Digimon and Pokemon are less anthro.

Not all champion level digimon are huge

You only revert back in the anime if you digivolved though the power of a human, naturally evolved digimon don't digivolve unless they die or have some special bullshit item

this is what Serperior should've been, a winged Grass/Dragon not its current state

fuck just thinking about the gen 5 starters makes me mad

I want to fuck Gatomon

I geel you man

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I just Game Freak didn't withhold content just to add them as a selling point in a later game

>In nature, animals will develop bright colors and grow spines to ward off predators.
Garchomp is bottom of the food chain.

Man the whole seadramon line looks so fucking cool
Too bad they are never as huge as they should be in games

Ask the staff.

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So I have this game but I have not played much of it, I do love yu though, and I beat cyber sleuth a few months back and loved it, im wondering, any neat things I Can do?

That's pretty based