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>Yes, EA and ActiBlizz are dying, and that's fine

fixed

I hope Dave Thier gets run over by a fucking bus while he jaywalks across a busy road trying to get to Starbucks a little faster so he can buy some faggoty frappe.

is this why RDR2 sold so poorly

oh wait, no it didn't. it blew the fuck out of GTAVs record.

whats the arguement? sales numbers? microtransactions being more profitable?

>Future Breaking News: EA closes down Bioware's Edmonton offices

>AAA

Eh, I'm indifferent. The amount of AAA single player games I realistically hope for are abysmally low, it's mostly Resident Evil keeping that torch alive for me at this point. Would like to see Mirror's Edge 3 happen, though.

Lets hope AAA as a whole goes.

Journalist write shit like this but next month they will be all sucking ND dick for last of us 2 and it's progressive diversity

It's disgusting

Online was the draw, just like with GTA V

Who cares what some fag thinks?

>Dying
>They still win GOTY every year

online launched like two weeks later m8

But Anthem is a multiplayer game so it has nothing to do with AAA single-player games dying.

>[Obvious observable thing is happening] [How you should feel about that thing]
"""Journalism""".

The biggest flops of 2018 early 2019 are mp games and the best sellers are single player though.

Literally an opinion piece or a blog

What is that freak beast all the way on the right?

People bought it with the anticipation of online.
Same with GTA5.

>453253028
What are we discussing? Why op would waste time on making a fake headline on a Tebetian sand raking forum just to fish for (you)a?

neither of those do singleplayer

Because their shitty multiplayer game bombed. Should have stuck to single player RPGs.

If this means we won't get any more rehashed Ubisoft releases and Sony moviegames then they can fuck off and die already

I'm so glad I had this article to tell me what to think or I don't know what I would have done!

It is when the developer of said game is fucking Bioware that made mostly single player games until now.

Uh no, how about everyone was excited to play a long awaited sequel to a game that was universally loved.

RHEA Saturn
GDEMU Dreamcast
OSD PS2
EVERDRIVE N64
MODDED WII U

>The industry is dying.

Let it die(tm) all the good games have been made.

No one I know did that. There was a Rockstar dev on Yea Forums that went by a name "RockstarFAGGOT" in /gtag/ that specifically said that Online mode is secondary and that they wanted players to enjoy the story first.

It's actually disingenuous, too. I went through the trouble of reading that pile of shit of an article and the tl;dr is "single player games will stay but companies want to monetize them as much as possible, so spread your cheeks and accept it".
Fuck him.

The first time i agree with such a shitty type of headline

I'm fine with that. Oh no, how terrible that we won't have any more samey open-world 100GB collect-a-thons that nobody actually finishes! Literally shaking right now!

I'm glad, if making games movies is the future of AAA single player games then that shit needs to die. I rather have AA single player games with actual gameplay.

This

nvm, wrong tripcode. The real one stopped posting on Mon 15 Jan 2018

boards.fireden.net/_/search/username/rockstar faggot/tripcode/!CSmUrZluSg/

the glorious CRPG revival just happened though

All AAA games need to die, but just singleplayer is a good start

then you're as retarded as the writer is, 2 of the biggest games last year were single player games and one of them won GOTY. You can even move the number up to 3 if you count RDR2 but retards will bring up the MP like it wasn't added a month later and was clearly an afterthought by rockstar considering it state.

Looks like OP just watched the new Jim Sterling video, saw this screencap in the video, then either cropped the video or hunted the article down. I'm guessing the crop, because OP is to fat and lazy to even bother doing a 2 second google search, hence this capped article headline, direct from the video.

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How is it dying?

>2 of the biggest games last year were single player games and one of them won GOTY

What kind of sub 80 IQ subhuman takes GOTY nominations or reviewers seriously?

because the author said so

Yea Forums in December and January

Thank god.

>anita's the most fuckable woman in that room

And the author has financial incentive to brainwash his readers in to believing that live service games crammed with micro transactions are the wave of the future.

Only aaa is dieing, indie games are growing in market share.

Funnily enough articles like the one in the OP are basically trying to be soothsayers in the hopes their predictions will come true.

>2 of the biggest games last year were single player games
What do you mean by big?

Popular perhaps. But still nowhere near as popular as something like Fortnite.

And in terms of profitability huge single-player games are a time and money sink that may never pay off in comparison to vehicles for loot crates, like Fortnite. Big single-player games aren't the most profitable games to make now, its all about microtransactions.

that is fine
AAA games are shit

Singleplayer AAA titles aren't dying though, at least not in japan. RE2 just came out and sold very well, with DMC5 on the way. Sekiro is on the way as well. But even then western AAA singleplayer games are doing fine as well, AssCreed is still chugging along, God of War did very well and there's ghosts of tsushima or whatever on the way. Why do people keep exclaiming and calling for the death of singleplayer games?

>People who play games want to have FUN
"I dont think so"

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I know journalism these days are full of half-truths but video game journalism should never, NEVER be given the time of day.

did i mention reviews? and again 3 of the most anticipated games last year were single player AAA games and this month you have 2 more anticipated single player AAA games coming while january also dropped 2. It's funny you bring up low iq when you're retarded enough to think the journalist clickbaiting is right.

Unless you count Witcher 3, the last triple A game I played was the original Asscreed more than a decade ago

I don't care either way

Single player games can be pirated. Multiplayer games can’t be if important information is server side.

This

Good. The only AAA games ive actually played in the last 5 years have been Witcher and Dark Souls/BB (are those even considered AAA?). I only find indie games interesting these days.

Fortnite is a free game. Of course it's more popular. Isn't this just common sense? Hmm...

I thought AAA singleplayer games were doing well compared to AAA multiplayer games which are all underperforming and competing against each other for player retention

Pretty much, though I think most of Yea Forums are obsessed with the people they don't like and must constantly hunt down things they say so they can be angry about it or so they can bring it back to their hugbox to shit on the posts in question.

Only if you strike it big.
Most multiplayer do not.
Single player with a realistic budget and an audiance in mind will almost always turn a profit.
AAA only wants infinite money though. There's no pleasing investors with only moderate successes.

I wish all AAA would die to be desu

I wouldn't play Anthem if they PAYED me €39.

If the entire vidja industry went the way of the dodo, the world would become a better place.

>(and allies!)

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big as in highly anticipated and dominate conversations and shit, they also sell extremely well. Obviously they're not going to do the amount something like fortnite does because fortnite and MP games have continual revenue but single player games can still sell extremely and they don't also incur continuous cost like developing more content to keep the game fresh or server cost like multiplayer games have to do.

He's not wrong they are. Children play AA Nintendo games and fortnite. Teenagers play call of duty, GTA online and fortnite. Young adults play AA Nintendo games and fortnite. Older adults are the only ones who play AAA single player games any more, specifically movie games.

> and that's a good thing!
videogame journalism is a fucking joke

Regression to the mean of quality and appealing to the lowest most common denominator of taste is more profitable because the people who pay for this entertainment do so lackadasically.
Unchecked greed instead of artistic/creative integrity thus predisposes garbage slop product and so real gems will grow rarer. Those things that could be gems will be inexorably tarnished by microtransactions and cash siphoning service models.

Indies create good games, balloon with success into AAA's (or are consumed by existing ones), then those grow unchecked by refining their business models into the crap we obviously find distasteful. It's an ecosystem that's in what I'd describe as an algae bloom - The most successful and slimy strategies occupy a large majority of the market share. Other forms of life still exist in the gaming ooze, rising and falling with opportunity and niche market desires. You have to treasure and encourage the continuation of any small respite from the shitty state of things.

that's good for you, you've missed some pretty worthwhile single player games in damn near every genre though.

Wait how are CoD and GTA not AAA titles?

Don't you mean ALL journalism?

"Dave Thier" is gay and paid by the illuminati to spread lies.

same shit happened with mmos when they were the money makers

I skimmed the article and god is it a bad one. With a title like that, you'd assume the article would be about proving the thesis of it's okay that there's less singleplayer games but instead it goes into why there's less and not why it's okay that they're gone. Effectively the only thing that it states in favor of it is at the end.
>That's alright. Games-as-service can be just as entertaining and powerful as their single-player counterparts. It's just a change.

God, look at that cuck in the background lmao

It is good, but not for the reason he thinks it is.

In the west? Absolutely fine since the west makes shit single player games anyway. I'd be upset I'd Japan goed full retard into battle royales and mobas

You're supposed to capitalize every word of a title or headline user

>And that's a good thing!
>And it's fine
>Why you should [x]
>It's okay that [x] is dying

The nerve of these writers. They straight up tell you what you should feel based on what they want you to think about a topic. May as well write "[x] game is dying and if you disagree with me, you're a fucking cunt, fuck you". It's the same thing.

I really didn't

If you were a failed journalist who couldn't hack it in the big news world, who then possessed no morals or integrity, and so willingly became a puppet mouthpiece for ad agencies contracted by publishers like EA and Ubisoft to convince the dumb momos of the world that live service, always online DRM, microtransaction infested multi-player games were the like SOO hot right now, then you would see the real reason to write a cretinous article like this one. There is no way to milk your customers udders until powdered milk poofs out with a tight, single player experience. Can only do that with MULTI PLAYER GAEMES!!1!!

the normies will accept it though, people think video games aren't dying its just a cynics viewpoint, but the truth is vidya died once share holders started realizing it was a milkable medium. Spread your ass cheeks is basically the future, games aren't for gamers anymore

>last of us
>uncharted 4
>god of war
>horizon:zero dawn
>red dead redemption 2
>spiderman
>AC: odyssey
all financial successes

>codblops4
>bfV
>crackdown 3
>anthem
>fallout 76
>destiny 2
all financial disappointments

>most of Yea Forums
you mean the handful of people that start twitter threads for (you)s?

Ah yes, games as a service. The model with 4 huge high profile bombs in the span of 120 days. With no real success to speak of.
What an exciting change we all want.

That last line you wrote is ultra important, and it reveals the true sinister nature behind the article. Money money money money money

It's literally a psychological tactic. A guiding route to prime pre-trained brainlets to absorb their propaganda message in the intended fashion.

I hate it but it works.

The bar to become a video game journalist is pretty fucking low.

Yea Forums could seriously make a website where every article has some shitty ass hot-take and millions would gobble it up as fact even though it's 100% conjecture.

Putting aside the whole clickbait garbage, I wouldn't care if AAA games as a whole died.
Shit I don't remember the last time I've played one it's only indies that do it for me anymore.

>39 monopoly money

I wouldn't even pay 15$ in real money for it.

Indies will save us.

>>That's alright. Games-as-service can be just as entertaining and powerful as their single-player counterparts. It's just a change.

Can't wait till
>Sure, you have to pay $60 every time you boot up the games you already paid for or else you won't be able to access them at all. But that's okay. Its just a change.
is defended

Why are all articles worded like smug fucks talking down to you now?

the thing is that the safer they have to play, the more repetitive they become, which means less of these games can exist

indies will demonstrate prowess and then be consumed and chewed up by the machine that the rest of the industry is. Only those indies with superb leadership and an understanding of the state of things can avoid being bought out if they're successful and corporate shenaniganry from much bigger companies will deliberately try to defame and ruin you if you don't accept their buyouts. It's fucked.

No you're not

Honestly all the industry really needs is Nintendo, BamCo and indies.

And I'd also like to add to this, that anyone could revisit a God of War or a Spider-Man PS4 in 10 years, and they will have the same experience, the same exact level of enjoyment that someone who played it on release would have. Go try and revisit a BLOPS4 or a Fallout 76 in 10 years. See how that works out for ya.

Whatever "dying" means. There's fewer of them, but they're 100+ hours each. There are still more good ones than I have time for.

They're writing for colectivists that need an authority figure to tell you want to think.

Man, Forbes actually paid for this article.

How the fuck do I con my way into this industry too?

>He thinks goty means anything
Good goy

t. Scamco shill

conning your way into it is literally the journalistic barrier for entry, lmao.

It is fine since AAA single-player campaigns are all soulless, designed by committee and approved by a SocJus Morality committee (with at least one chinese spy on-board) these days.
It's helping me save money in real life since I don't buy any of these AAA battle royale shooter lootbox trash games, at all.

>you can't just buy the hundreds of already existing games
Journalism.

source?

Good, singleplayer games are trash

I... Maybe? I mean... That's actually a pretty complicated question.

This. I can't even manage to play a bad pirated game.

I pirated ME: A but got so discouraged from actually installing it and playing it that i just deleted it shortly after.

>and allies!
These people still believe they're infallible heroes in some grand fantasy. FFS

to play devils advocate though, i played spiderman and platinumed it and i have pretty much no urge or need to go back to the game. It was enjoyable the first time around but there's some really repetitive shit in the game and combat honestly wasn't my favorite thing. Even someone who doesn't platinum it might have no urge to go back if the only thing they have left to do is repetitive street crimes or strongholds around the map.

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yep gaming's a lot cheaper now

Who cares?
Best singleplayer games sccne 2017 were indies

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That's gaming journalism in a nutshell though.

based fortnite zoomer

>RE2: Huge success
>KH3: Huge success (even tho it's shit)
>AC7: Huge success
>Metro Exodus: Huge success
>GE3: Huge success
>Judgement: Huge success
rip singleplayer games amirite

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cool. save me a lot of $60 purchases

all shit

Investors don't want them because justifying lootboxes and microtransactions for them is too difficult and controversial. Game journos like in OPs screencap are shills for the gaming industry so of course they agree.

Huge success my ass. Those games are maybe makinhg back 1.5x their budget.

So did I, it was only my 3rd Platinum ever. I hated the Miles and MJ sections and the DLC was trash, but I just meant like even for new players. If anyone, not just me and you who already played it, anybody could buy a used PS4 and those games in 10 years and still enjoy themselves.

“and” is capitalized which is incorrect, i thought everyone learned that in 3rd grade

Go back to /vr/ you simp.

The problem is not AAA existing is more about the directors of these games, some AAA are obviously much better quality than others despite being a bit similar in some way, just get rid of these directors and people that want every game to be the same, make interesting projects that benefit from AAA-tier production and stop making shit like DLC obligatory.

>Allies

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He wasn’t asking for your opinion, he was refuting the statement of the videogame “journalist”

You won't get good directors unless you have good producers, and you won't get good producers unless you have good company heads. The whole thing is rigged, basically.

Yeah dude totally. Like I only play Command and Conquer and maybe a little Civilization (LOL Gandhi amirite?)

He's not wrong though. All those games are shit except for Red Dead Redemption II and the original non-remastered Spyro.

>yes, bad things that are absolutely not fine are happening, and thats fine

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But it's only half the job. AAA multiplayer games need to die too for it to truly matter.

Command and Conquer games and Civ 2-3-4 were all much better games than whatever Zoomer shit you're into.

Allies also implies they think they're in a war. And what are they fighting for? To change video games. You know, the video games that were doing just fine and A-OK for 30 years before the butch lesbians stopped driving trucks cross country, and decided Dead or Alive Beach Volleyball was oppressive or something. No fun allowed with these types.

>somehow trying to imply those games are better than civ and C fucking C
I hate zoomers so, so much.

AAA multiplayer games cannot die because they're normie bait and they generate too much money. They're like gatcha mobile games.

typing the word men must be like holy water on a vampire to her

White race is dying and thats a good thing

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>Those games are maybe makinhg back 1.5x their budget.
[citation needed]

I honestly don't remember the last time I even played an AAA game.

There’s literally nothing wrong with movie games

Yeah I stopped playing video games in about 1998 or so. Everything new is automatically trash. Everything.

The last one I played was Battlefield V with origin access which i deeply regret and I'm now ashamed of even giving EA 15$

I hate indie games just as much as I hate modern big budget garbage.

I feel like you wrote this post with a thesaurus open

Cuckmann is a lucky guy, without a media juggernaut like Sony pimping the game industry with heavily narrative driven playable movies this douche would still be pushing his shit in run down indie film spots.

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>BamCo
user...

western AAA single player games maybe
Shame they all have garbage gameplay

Not all men are allies. You, for one.

Didn't the great Anthem bombing JUST happen?

>indies
part of the problem

Those two series do have in fact games that are far superior to whatever zoomer trash you love, naturally there are good games nowadays too but not in that pic.

The games industry is much more shit than it was 10+ years ago you deluded zoomer tranny. Sorry you never experienced a good game.

I realized that after that DMC5 trailer review where the """""""journalist"""""""" couldn't even tell who the character in the trailer was and replied to criticism with *farts loudly*. What a joke.

nah, the chick in front of the fat fuck in the yellow shirt on the left is kind of cute.

this is the right way to treat journalists(bloggers)

>Here's why that's a good thing

There's a lot of evidence suggesting you're wrong.

Only american ones.

I mean stuff like Apex legends, Fortnite, or League. Anthem failed because theres no pvp, the game sucks, and it got panned by everyone.

you didn't when that 1 journalist couldn't get over an obstacle in the cuphead tutorial?

based horsewoman of the fempocalypse, killing AAA

can you honestly hate an indie game like a Hat in Time or prey for the gods? These are indies punching above their weight

BFV and FO76 bombed plenty hard despite being AAA games with pvp

>Big name companies enable my onions-infused chai frappe embroiled, wife's son's trans paedo fucking, absolute 'happy merchant' supporting lifestyle. This despite the fact I'm in a vocal minority, these practices are viciously stabbing the gaming industry, and despite the massive contradiction of terms considering the sales figures of predominantly single player games!

>AND THAT'S A GOOD THING!

That's because both were a shitty buggy mess. Apex and Fortnite are functional despite being pleb tier normie friendly games.

>Not the Driver 3 debacle

You youngins have much to learn.

>Big name companies enable my onions-infused chai frappe embroiled, wife's son's trans paedo fucking, absolute 'happy merchant' supporting lifestyle. This despite the fact I'm in a vocal minority, these practices are viciously stabbing the gaming industry, and despite the massive contradiction of terms considering the sales figures of predominantly single player games!
>>AND THAT'S A GOOD THING!
I'm tweeting this to him, just a sec

Have you played the online? Have you heard one good thing about the online? RDR2O is trash, everyone wants more single player DLC and nothing to do with the online

pubg was buggy as hell at launch and i think it still is but it was still a success

allies is a ridiculously hyperbolic word in this context though, the implication of it is that men should be assumed to be enemies of women unless explicitly noted. major cringefest lmao

If I can disentangle your word salad correctly, you failed to make sense of the very simple headline in the OP.

FO76 sure as hell didn't have an AAA budget for development at least.

Here's a question.

Anons here: What is, in your opinion, the greatest single player game of all time? Or one of. Interested to see what people say.

For me, it's final fantasy tactics.

If it was as polished as fortnite and apex it would still be top dog though. Also it came out when the BR fad was just starting to explode.

epic

why do (((they))) always say this every 5 years?
no I'm not falling for this 'games as a service' scheme

>Read Dead 2
>Resident Evil 2 Remake
>Spiderman PS4
>God of War 4
>Metro Exodus
>Kingdom Hearts 3

Am I missing something here? All these games are strong single player games that are selling like crazy.

I can't say one

Not at all, you can be neutral.

I dunno, last three RPG games I enjoyed were KC:D, ELEX and Enderal. Maybe it's good. I didn;t buy AAA game for at least three years.

your mom was pretty epic last night

So we're just making shit up now huh?

>Enderal
How jank is it? Since you liked ELEX i'm guessing your tolerance for jank is very low.

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Rune Factory 4

you're missing out on all that enriching progressive content like mandatory gay sex with trannies

>your tolerance for jank is very low.
*very high

They live in their own fantasy world, these people are allergic to reality.

one of. or a few. My guess is that most of the games that land in the GOAT conversation will not be made in the last 5 years.

How many times do we see people talking about Link to the Past? Super Metroid? Street Fighter 3?

MANY of these GOAT contenders were made so long ago, that current indie devs can deliver products of similar development demands. From that point of view... we really DON'T need triple A single player games, because they're not improving the quality of our experience. Unless someone here has a really strong case for a modern game being in the GOAT conversation?

Reminder thatfor once a shithead journalist is correct since every single good game this year has been from a AA studio/publisher.

>and that's a good thing
>mfw it actually IS a good thing

Nobody even expected a RDR sequel to even have online what the fuck.

>Maybe AAA games will be niche
Not sure you understand what AAA means my friend

If made properly and free of politics they tend to do well. Fake journalist is wrong as always.

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Wouldn’t games in the past year or two such as GoW, spider-man, rdr2 and the re2 remake all selling well prove otherwise?

AAA has always been garbage, the whole definition of AAA is something with a "blockbuster mentality" with a big marketing budget so it automatically disqualifies everything from being good.

>GE3: Huge success
Want to now how I know you're full of shit? GE3 is getting panned across the board because it's a gigantic rushed mess with no content.

3 Months after the initial release and there's still no signs of the promised updates.

It's better than Skyrim, world is pretty neat (how magic works is awesome, at least for me), plot isn't half bad and you can feel pure love coming from the game. Skyrim was more janky even with the final patch. Still, it's modded Skyrim, there are some things that you cannot fix, like boring combat.

The problem is its built on a faulty premise. The writer pushes for support of multiplayer/game-as-service models. So AAA single-player games "dying" won't suddenly create a boom of quality AA and indie single-player games to take their place. It will just mean increasingly worse business practices.

If they were tired of them, they'd stop buying them.

The problem is that many AAA games in the past didn't even had the ambition to justify their existence, an AAA can be amazing but that would mean taking risks that publishers aren't willing to take (many of them had an incredible amount of cut content for example), it's more of a flawed business model than the games themselves not needing high budgets.

>Less AAA multiplayer the better.
Ftfy

>multiplayer/game-as-service models
Has never been a viable strategy for AAA games
for multiplayer games you actually need good game design, so it's a total crapshoot and your game might tank spectularly as we've already seen
single player games you can just keep churning out the same formula and people will keep buying it

retard alert!

>metro huge success
>GE3 huge success,(I don't even know what this one stands for)
>KH3 huge success

>>last of us
>>uncharted 4
>>god of war
>>horizon:zero dawn
>>red dead redemption 2
>>spiderman
>>AC: odyssey
>all financial successes

Stop being a pussy and just add Breath of The Wild.

>only freemium battle royal trash left in the future
nice

>single player games you can just keep churning out the same formula and people will keep buying it

Maybe, but that's not what the article is arguing, which is the issue. The article isn't concerned with any notions that budgets for AAA games are overblown in proportion to the lack of variety and polish they have and that developers should scale back to refine the meat of their games to provide unique and meaningful gameplay experiences. Instead it just wants you to "accept" even more shitty business practices. I'm not gonna run out and buy a bunch of AAA single-player games in defiance, but I'm also not gonna nod my head to the tune the article's writer is playing.

you normalfags have really fallen for the "haha yeah! single player games yeah! such a nerd all by myself yeah!" meme they've pushing for around half a year now.
i wouldn't have said anything if the single player games were, you know, GOOD. why don't you look into indie and smaller studio single players? don't you like games -- or do you just shove in what they tell you is good?

>BotW
>Persona 5
>God of War
>Sony's Insomniac's Disney's Marvel's Spiderman
>RDR2
>NieR Automata
>Mario Odyssey
>Xenoblade 2
>Kingdom Hearts 3
>Re:RE2
I sure am glad none of the best selling games of the last two years were big single player focused titles

sorry -- meant half a decade*

The author is using AAA to make their point, so the thread is following along.

But to your point CrossCode and Rabi-Ribi are my two most recently played favorite games. So you can shove your accusations.

>hoffentlich kein köln kalk verbot
basierender kölner

>single player games are dying

Lmaoo

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>And That's Fine
I see journalists got their new favourite catchphrase already

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The most vidyakino storytelling I've had in recent years have been from literally who developers and small studios.

So yes let the western AAA industry burn and die.

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liberals are really killing gaming with constantly trying to turn games into proganda tools for their stupid ideology and only hiring people based on skin color and gender
games should be about fun not politics and people should be rewarded for their merit not the way they were born
and that isn´t even mentioned all the cenorship of anything that triggers feminists and liberals that has become the norm nowadays all thanks to liberals as well.
funny that the same idiots that screamed "games are art and need to talk about politics" also demand that censorship it ok

No that’s all journalism these days. Go look at the headlines on any big news site. It uses this structure everywhere. Or the tired attention gap “this thing happened. Then this person did this.” Which is just a tweak of the “and what she said next will leave you stunned” thing in the early Facebook era that everyone made fun of. Yes our august news orgs are just slightly evolved versions of Facebook clickbait circa 2009.

>Gaming is dying and yes thats a good thing - game journalist

>You can be neutral

Well, you can certainly try to be, but I dare you to work in a Bioware type office environment with these creatures. Let's see how all that neutrality works out for you. These people only have a with us or against us type attitude. It is known.

current triple A games cost a ton of money to make, but honestly, are they all that much better for it? That was my point. Would you rather have 2018 God of War? Or would you rather reexperience a game as brilliant and amazing as Chrono Trigger? Cuz the latter could be made by indie studios. The former couldn't.

This the only bad japanese AAA company is nu-Square Enix but even they still make good games sometimes, fuck americans and their propaganda.

It is a good thing. The industry has become a Jew ridden hell hole whose only purpose is to take your last dime, then sell you a credit card and put you into debt. And the indie market is too niche. Kill em both and start over from scratch.

Yea Forums thinks aaa dying is good but when aaa dies, so do consoles and then so do non-mobile Japanese games. All you'll have left is mobile.

This

>turn games into proganda tools for their stupid ideology
Aka having brown character options. God conservatards are pitiful.

They why do they still sell a shitload of copies?

It's not good at all, but who cares.

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They should have stuck to making good rpgs to begin with.

I hope what he means is the return of that AA kind of middle ground area

Shareholders have ridiculous expectations about profits which are very hard to reach with singleplayer only

Now why would you light a perfectly good strawman on fire like that?

considering that they are literally lying about history in most cases to normalize mass immigration and feminism that is definitely a political proganda move.
just as if a dictatorship would rewrite all their history books to claim that a certain area had always belonged to their country to justify a invasion

Ratchet & Clank 2, Kingdom Hears 2: Final Mix, Red Dead Redemption 2, Crash Bandicoot 2..

Chrono Trigger for its time was AAA though, it was made by a once in a lifetime dev team which many indies couldn't ever get close to, not all games need a blockbuster budget obviously but many of the most well regarded games of all time were a massive financial risk in their time, the key word here is risk though and that's the problem these days with these studios making the same game over and over.

Its been stated multiple times in the thread that that's not what the writer means.

kay, tell us something that didn't happen a decade ago

You're still off the mark. Indies can easily do the equivalent of the AAA of old now, the technogy is there. Therefore we don't need AAA to have high quality masterpieces.

So much this. Everyone agrees that nothing will ever get better ever again now, and that's good cause it's the truth. All we can do now is cry. I'm so glad this site cam accept truth and responsibility, unlike cripplechan...

Dude, he's right! We have literally nothing left. Conform to AAA kikes now, because they'll have the whole medium to themselves soon.

dying?
when games like
DMC 5
Megaman 11
Resident Evil 2 Remake
Cyberpunk 2077
Pokemon Sword and Shield
Zelda Links Awakening Remake
Yakuza

and much more games are coming out that are concentrated on single player options

The multiplayer and single player gaming sphere are both good and healthy, this is just cilckbait bullshit from a bullshit website

Those games will die too. See and . We lost, bro. The only games that will exist in the future is forever mobileshit. Nothing else. There is no fighting back and weve all accepted this doomer lifestyle, as we cry to sleep at what losers we are, while normies keep the industry sustaned forever....

There are more examples but not many recent enough to really rave about.

Are you OK user?

Okay but that's actually bullshit you're spewing my man

i thought he was making alot of sense

Considering the billions Rockstar made from GTAV and RDR2 I doubt it.

not true, most people who still buy this AAA shit do it almost begrudgingly. they know it's boring slop but they keep buying it because they can't help themselves and have no other hobbies.

Those two events have little to nothing to do with each other. Obsesses

the thing is aaa no longer make games for people like me anyway.
it´s all just sjw and feminist garbage for the "woke audience"
I no longer get fun stories with zero politics featuring a cool white male protagonist and a few sexy female side charters
stuff like that just isn´t allowed in games anymore according to liberals
so even if aaa games die I won´t be affected in any way more then I already am

The BFV hard water mission literally wrote out the male company that took part in that very real mission, to have a women and her teenage daughter save the day.

Is this the vidya Scott Mendelson?

Only a select few studios can make good ones, like God of War's or the new DMC5, even fromsoft is great.

Let the others make lazy open world games and royale.

they are hardly any still being made
it´s mostly always online, games as service games thesedays where story and missions are mostly second thoughts

>Rogue one is not getting a sequel.
What the fuck would they even do with it? A completely different group of diverse humans led by a woman called the BOTHANS steal the DS2 plans?

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Wat? No, it didn’t. It didn’t even beat GTAIV or San Andreas.

When do we hang every single one of these "game" """""""journalists"""""""? Surely no one actually wants them around.

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Yet somehow the absolute greatest games of all time seem to always be single player games. This is constantly reflected in the top 10 entrants of any poll. Funny that.

Not him but BFV also had people with functional robotic prosthetics fighting on the front line.
Just sayin' isn't a historically accurate game.

>inject politics and "racial and sexual diversity" into single-player games
>single handedly killing singleplayer games
>They're just dying, it's fine
SJW's are nothing but leeches that kill everything they touch, including themselves funnily enough.

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Souls series/Bloodborne
Dragons Dogma
BotW
Mario Oddesey

Because that's more dramatically compelling.

So do you play games at all? Because if you play anything but mobile or indie on PC you will be affected by the death of AAA and the subsequent death of consoles (and thus console ports to pc)

Their failed careers as writers and actual journalists are enough of a death sentence for them.
They live everyday being unfulfilled and knowing that they will never get to their dream job because they are forced to write for clicks.

This will never get old.

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They presented a real scenario, In a real place, that really happened, then pulled a switcharo with the people involved.
You don't get to have your diverse cake and eat it too.

>How the fuck do I con my way into this industry too?
Sell your soul to the devil.

Yeah but they don't make any money so who fucking cares.

Games that make money are competitive multiplayer games where wallet warrior can pay money to win more games. A game like that you can sell for 60$ and expect to get 600 more from the season pass and microtransactions.

There's no reason, financially, to make 'complete' single player games unless you're willing to cut your potential profits by 90%. Making a competitive multiplayer microtransaction platform means you can make half the game and make 10 times the money.

Was the guy even sober when he was playing that

>lying about history
NOW you're going to tell me the Civil War wasn't about slavery, aren't you?

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Kill AAA in general

Did you know the company that pulled that mission off sabatoged that facility without firing a shot?
Nothing could top the reality of that scenario.

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Well, gamers are dead too, so I guess all us dead people will play dead games.

Still boggles the mind they released the footage instead of instantly deleting it.

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fucking pro-ugandan nationalists

Game journalist's brain can only process one command at a time

>The American Education System in Action

Cyberpunk nigger!

Which is why its dying, its not about it being profitable, it has to be as profitable as possible.

Investors will question why the studio is choosing to spend 4+ years making a $100 million single-player game when they could have crapped out 5 online-only, multiplayer-only vehicles for microtransactions and make 10 times as much money in a fraction of the time.

If I am lucky there is maybe one game a year that I really like.
most of the time I try at least 3 to 4 games a year but I haven´t gotten one that i really liked in a long time. I was going to cut back on games anyway since like I said most games aren´t enjoyable to me anymore. So it really doesn´t matter to me that much if aaa dies or not. sure if all aaa studios said "sorry we stop with the sjw stuff and make games like we used to again" I would care but the chances of anything like that happening seems ultra slim. If mortal kombat isn´t allowed to show of tits the chances of the next game from rocksteady for example still having hot girls seems near zero

Fucking this
>Single-player games start becoming "cinematic experiences" with "rich, driven stories and characters"
>Normies flock with cash in hand because games are becoming more like their lowest-common-denominator-focused passive media
>AAA video game companies go all-in
>But even the best video games have never had as powerful writing as the best movies, which have never had as powerful writing as the best books
>Compounded with the fact that AAA industries going for deep and meaningful writing is like a girl in a wheelchair intending to become a pro dancer because she once won a contest where she either paid off or sabotaged all the other competitors, and people kind of liked her spins
>The same AAA industries who are embarrassingly averse to taking any risks or ever deviating from successful formulas to create anything original are trying to sell their creative writing skills
>Inevitably, after just a few years and several billion dollars, there end up only a handful of decently-written games, and they all have a similar premise, themes, and plot arcs.
>The games, being entirely built around their story, are really only enjoyable for a couple plays, then they get returned, sold, or become shelf-warmers
>Anyone who visited their friend and played it, or watched them play it, doesn't even need to buy the game, since they experienced all it had to offer
>Same deal for anyone who watched a LP or stream of the game. If it's not based on the interactive experience (the "game" part), then an entire game can be consumed just from watching it once or twice
>A couple final pieces of the exact same shit get squeezed out by AAA publishers, but by now nobody's watching anymore, since they've already gotten their fill of the same type of cinematic experience and moved on
>AAA publishers/investors: "WELL I GUESS NO ONE WANTS SINGLE-PLAYER GAMES ANYMORE SINCE THEY COST TOO MUCH AND DON'T SELL, PULL ALL FUNDING AND DUMP IT INTO SMARTPHONE AND MULTIPLAYER GAMES"

I only want walking sims and movie games to be the ones dying

RDR 2, Spiderman, GoW, RE 2, BotW, Horizon ZD, every year they keep saying the same shit and every year they are proven wrong

Great mission for a shooting game

you should have used the headline where the studio says that dishonored is "on hold for now"
anita basically killed one of the only actually successful new franchises that we got during the ps3

Seems like you're mostly set for the apocalypse then beyond that 1 a year

basiert

"Battle Royale" isn't an original concept at all, though. It's literally existed as "Free-for-all" in games beforehand.

Anyways, PUBG was a shitty mess and its developer was worse, and as annoying as Fortnite is I still think it's funny that it completely upstaged that faggot.

Less multiplayer in general. if you want to make a good multiplayer game, budget it around that. if you want to make a good single player game budget it around that. but don't take a fully fleshed out single player game and tack multiplayer onto out of obligation it cheapens the whole product.

In some industries companies can become too big to fail. In video games, they can become too big to succeed.

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Capcom, CDPR, Square Enix, Sony, Rockstar, and Nintendo are still are still finding massive success with AAA single player games.

I don't know, I think single-player games are doing better than ever. People buy and play them and they do fairly well. Multiplayer games meanwhile cannibalize each other hard while draining resources post-launch.

Anybody interested in the real version of events will look it up after the fact and get what really happened.
Nobody but children will take it as a 1-for-1 history because most people understand that people didn't have robot arms back then either.

People are smarter that others would give them credit for. The truth and a quick history lesson is a google away.

What happened?

>SE
>massive success

Literally the only thing keeping the company afloat is FFXIV. If that got shut down they'd be bankrupt inside of 3 months.

It's fucking incredible how people like this manage to live on a day-to-day basis, instead of tripping over their own two feet and breaking their neck

Tell us more

AAA refers to budget not quality. but one could assume a game with a big budget looks to reach a wide audience. it probably couldn't be considered niche by definition

>billions
They spent almost a billion making RDR2 and barely made its budget back.

SE also has some gachas keeping them afloat, and those games take zero effort to develop anything for while literally printing money.

Soon to be DMC5: Huge Success

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forbes is the worst media for games coverage. paul tassi is a literal faggot cuck, erik cain is an easily triggered corporate shill. Thier is the least gay of the 3 but he still pulls shit like this. I wouldnt give them clicks lads if you can avoid it.

>and that's a good thing
literally every time I read a headline from these retarded journalists it's some shit like this.

Erik Kain was pretty good for a while there. Not sure what happened.

marketing budgets

this

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Seeing as most modern AAA games are in general, both multi and singleplayer, nothing of value lost

I didn't buy a western AAA title aince I don't know maybe 2004 or something like that. I think the last one could have been something like sims 2 or some shit.

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>You're supposed to capitalize every word of a title or headline user

murrifats...

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>Chrono Trigger for its time was AAA though
Right, but it wouldn't be now. The sprite assets. music, and tech demands are all well within Indie capabilities now.
>most well regarded games of all time were a massive financial risk in their time
Yes, because gaming wasn't a mainstream hobby then. The industry has SKYROCKETED in terms of normie accessibility. Indie games are nowhere near the financial risk they used to be. That's why there WEREN'T indie games in the 80s.
>the problem these days with these studios making the same game over and over.
Exactly. That's why AAA single player games are failing to impress. The cost prohibits experimentation, which is why we ask the question: "if we're not going to get any masterworks out of this industry, why do we want it to persist?"

AAA games in general are dying and good fucking riddance.

He's one of those people who crank out clickbait every day for whatever piddling amount of money that makes him. Could be his primary income or a side-hustle. It's easy enough to do and probably easy enough to peddle to sites like this.

I know this won't come as a welcome solution but the only way to fix this is to pay for your media and press coverage from reputable sources and not those driven by clicks or ads. Unfortunately, video gaming coverage is too far dead to recover and is a snapshot of what journalism will look like in the future if we don't actually start paying for quality shit.

There's pretty much nobody I trust to handle my gaming news anymore. TB surrounded himself with shit people but he himself was the best advocate we could ask for. And now he's dead. And Sterling can't script or rant without repeating himself every two minutes so him being the "best" remaining option is hardly worth talking about given that he's fucking terrible at his job. Gaming media is going to look exactly the same ten years from now as it is today, a blown out desiccated corpse.

People like Bunnyhop and Anderson are more like historians. They aren't fast enough to weigh in immediately to do enough to shit companies to actually damage their sales. By the time those guys pipe up it's months or years down the line long after the bulk of initial sales have already been made. Shitshows like Anthem, Pillars, or No Man's Sky, or Artifact or successes like Resident Evil are just not timely covered. One thing they do well is bring attention to really hidden non-mainstream shit like Edith Finch or Nier.

AAA single player games are doing just fine lately.
Instead, shitty online game-services are dying. Fallout 76 is dying. Anthem is dying. OW is dying. Paladins is dying. Genderfield is dying. Lots of other fucking garbage is dying as well.

Meanwhile RE2 remake is great. AC7 is okay.
RDR2, GoW4, Spiderman, Metro, upcoming Sekiro, DMC5, new God Eater, MHW, announced Darkest Dungeon 2 and Hollow Knight 2, The Outer Worlds, Kojimbo's Death Stranding, the list goes on.

Lots of good single player games.
And multiplayer garbage by Hirez, Bethesda, EA, Activision is dying instead. Fuck them and good riddance.

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agreed. something definitely changed. i actually used to like his write ups. but now he's completely pozz'd

I'm just some guy, but I find it funny how every single argument on here just turns on the others intelligence while each person tries to plateau above the other. It reminds me of when you're a kid and you one goes "I have a death ray that kill u instantly" and the other says something like "Well I have shield that will make it bounce back n kill u when you try to shoots me".

>AAA single player games are doing just fine lately.
they arent though

>Breath of the Wild sells like crazy
>Super Mario Odyssey sells like crazy
>God of War sells like crazy
>Spider-Man sells like crazy
>Pokemon Let's Go sells like crazy
>Red Dead 2 sells like crazy
>nearly every multiplayer AAA game has, in one way or another, completely blown up on itself and harmed its own sales drastically
>the most popular multiplayer games out right now are f2p
What kind of retard writes articles like this when facts completely contradicts whatever garbage they posted up?

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>The sprite assets. music, and tech demands are all well within Indie capabilities now.

On a technical level maybe but that doesn't mean they have the skill to pull it off. There's a reason "pixelshit" is thrown around so much in regards to indies.

>That's why there WEREN'T indie games in the 80s.
Computer gaming (mostly EU) had tons of no budget floppy disk stuff though, more prominent in the 90s of course but still.

Semi-decent games are easier to make than ever so yeah I get how it's theoretically possible that any small indie studio could make a game as good as the best console stuff of the mid-90s but it was much easier to expect a top tier product from a big studio back then than it is to do it with a current era indie studio, I guess quality control still plays an important factor and that's why many people don't take indie as seriously, I mean we all have seen what Steam looks like these days.

'ello you
youtube.com/watch?v=gxEQOv2g0JA

>17 minute video
Can't you just summarize it using one word?

He's right, but mainly because AAA games in general are dying because AAA games are fucking trash.

>Pokemon Sword and Shield
Yeah I guess the existence of Ditto and breeding mechanics clearly scream single player experience, there's no way people want their Ubermons to battle each other, that would be just silly.

i unironically agree, to hell with single player lootboxes and microtransactions

>What kind of retard writes articles like this when facts completely contradicts whatever garbage they posted up?
A shill who's doing a damage control for shit publishers like EA.

Can't make anything decent when all the talent has bailed out.

I'm all for getting rid of 6 hour corridor shooter games with only singleplayer or a half assed multiplayer tacked on but charge 60$. AKA shit like nu-DOOM honestly that game was pure shit
>b-but le epic rip a tear, he's cuhrayzee!!
Try making a game actually worth the 60$ price tag

>Breath of the wild was fun.
>Super Mario was fun.
>God of War is walky talky, but had fun stuff in between.
>Spider-Man is Spider-Man, and also fun.
>Never played Pokemon.
>Red Dead 2 was pretty fun and also a Rockstar game.
Yeah, but EA keeps making garbage horseshit games for girls and retards that nobody wants, so clearly we're in the wrong.

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The fucking shills are at it again

What's his rationale? In the first quarter of this year alone we have Sekiro, DMCV and RE2.

You have to be retarded or a shill. No human being actually has that opinion.

Dave Thier is right. On both points.

Uhh it easily beat GTAIV and San Andreas, it's already sold as much as both of them in just a few months

Everytime some big company posts a pic showing off their "diversity" it's 95% white women. It seems that affirmitive action only helps white females and not the intended demographic so maybe we should ban it and hire based on merit.

The top selling games of 2018 were RDR2, Spiderman and GOW. All single player story driven titles.

these faggot journos just look at battle royale games and think they are the only games people are playing.

kikery

Unless you're some profit-slave shareholder, making back your expenses and then some is the literal definition of commercial success

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According to wikilolpedia GTAIV has sold 25.5m as of 2013 and SA 27m as of 2011. RDR2 has reportedly only shipped 22m units as of a few weeks ago. No doubt it will do more numbers than both of those games quicker than either have done, but at this stage no it hasn't outsold either.

With a PC release sure you'll see the numbers surge past 30m easily I'd say.

Once Anthem bricks your PS4, it isn't a game at all. Checkmate.

GTAIV sold 6 million in its first week, RDR2 sold 12 million in a few days. That's what I mean when I say RDR2 beat it. And its lifetime sales will easily surpass both GTAIV and San Andreas even without a PC release.

Yeah no doubt. Only rockstar could move 17m units in 3 days.

Well, maybe Nintendo could if they released their games on other hardware too but we know that ain't happening.

The fact that they call them games is sort of offensive. They're movies where they let you press buttons in between cut scenes. They cater to the lowest common denominator.

Fromsoft makes shit games bro

Agreed. Fuck this industry.

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Not at all, tranny.

Those are multiplayer games.

>allies used as a way to get people from other circles together to help your cause, but to never join you as an equal
>tfw same groups call blacks and asians allies

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the sole reason Fortnite and Apex took off was because they are free.

if anthem was free it'd probably have been just as popular.

for some reason normiefags fucking eat up looty-shooties like destiny and anthem

Not singleplayer games, AAA singleplayer games.

>2017

check the date baka retards

Besides CoD, Apex Legends, Fortnite and PUBG, what other MP game did well?

SIX YEARS

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What really needs to die is the pandering to the mentally ill.