So now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that Brotherhood is the best Assassin's Creed?
>GOAT setting in ancient Rome >Ability to call on minion Assassins to kill your targets. Level up and specialize these Assassins >Multiplayer PvP that's a lot more than it has any right to be >Best version of Ezio, who is the best AC protag >"The liberation of Roma has begun"
No game in the franchise since has reached the heights of this game.
No the story is too cartoony compared to 2 It's third person Far Cry with RPG elements
Cooper Davis
black flag will always be the franchise favorite, but brotherhood was my personal favorite. whistling to you trained assassins and they jump out of blinds to take out rooftop guards was so fucking cool. Not to mention the ultimate satisfaction throwing a claymore or battleaxe was.
Angel Cruz
first ac was the only good one.
Owen Rodriguez
Best historical Egypt game there is.
Brayden Ross
It added the glowing aura to attacking enemies so no
ACII was better but didn't have the same amount of optional content nor the ability to replay missions. Firenze and Venice are still the best thing AC has given me.
Gavin Roberts
It’s not Ancient Rome. OP is a dumbass. Still /kino/ setting.
Luke Foster
>It added the glowing aura to attacking enemies You sure? I don't remember that at all.
Is that so? I heard all the shills say it was an objective improvement on Origins.
Robert Jenkins
>they tease the idea of adding more VR missions >it never happens Wasted opportunity, they could have given the war machines ridiculous VR missions or make more race tracks.
Adrian Campbell
>Best version of Ezio, who is the best AC protag Agree
>calling in those arrow strikes on whistle was amazing and worth the game by itself >The romulus shit was annoying af Was it the part of the story where you carry the eden apple in the end and permastun/nuke your surroundings in the vatican while you also get hindered by it when you use it? That was annoying iirc I didn't enjoy the training and specializing of assassins much, it was basically football manager: renaissance This is all in retrospect from my memory alone. I enjoyed all Ezio parts. Ezio best assassin, easy as that.
Christopher Stewart
Origins was a better modern AC, Odyssey was a shitty AC game as a whole, trying to hard to include the content of The Witcher 3, despite none of it being all that interesting whatsoever.
You might like it though, so go ahead. Origins was only better because it was new at the time but it aged well. Then again, all of these have lost the Assassin part of the series and divulged into: >sneak around >Get tired of sneaking around >level up your armor >become OP so you don't have to deal with fetch quest #104 that lasts an hour
Bentley Morales
>Best version of Ezio >not old man Ezio who is also somehow more cartoonishly violent in his executions
Justin Jenkins
Unity, and 3 better than 2 You’re fucking retarted
David Green
Ezio was one of the most overrated characters in all of Assassin's Creed. How many times did he completely abandon the tenets of the creed throughout the course of his series of games? He never matured, even in old age. Ezio was nothing but a hypocrite who killed innocents like Tarik or the civilians in the Derinkuyu fire, and Ezio faced no repercussions for his actions. Yet he has the gall to chastise one of his assassin apprentices in Revelations for killing an innocent target. Ezio was a terrible character.
During the end of Assassin's Creed II, Ezio's quest for revenge leads to a climactic fistfight with the Pope, only for Ezio to have a holier than thou moment. Ezio spares the Pope's life as Ezio realizes that snuffing out Rodrigo Borgia won't bring back his dead father or brothers. Ezio is done with his life of killing. Yet Brotherhood reverts Ezio's character back to square one for no reason. In comes Cesare Borgia who kills Ezio's uncle Mario and sets Ezio off on yet another revenge quest. Ezio learned nothing by the end of Assassin's Creed II.
And it goes without saying that Assassin's Creed Revelations itself was a meandering game which exploited the Ezio fandom. All Ezio does is search for five MacGuffin keys, and by the end of Revelations, he simply comes to say is that he's nothing but a messenger for Desmond in the future. Ezio already realized this when Minerva talked to Desmond through Ezio as Assassin's Creed II came to its cliffhanger ending. Assassin's Creed Brotherhood and Revelations are nothing but a massive waste of time. Fuck the Ezio trilogy and fuck the Ezio nostalgia fags who continue to shill this slop.
This I liked Roma and all, but Venice and Firenze are much more comfy and memorable settings. The music that plays in Florence is one of the best in the entire series.
Xavier Anderson
>3 >Better than anything 3 was the worst in the series
Cameron Williams
He's saying that that's the case. That 3 and Unity have no business being better than II.
Man, I still remember when Brotherhood was going to come out, back when the series didn't become a yearly rehash just yet. I watched the trailers a lot, and I was really excited for it. I even got that special edition that came with a treasure chest replica and everything. Those were simpler times.
Robert Edwards
As bad as he might have ended up being due to using him over and over to make more money at least he's not Arno, who was a poor attempt to recapture him that did nothing other than >I want to do thing >Don't do it Arno, it's a bad idea >Screw you, I do what I want >*shit happens* >Oh well, I better get drunk How many times did this happen during the course of the game? Three?
Julian Bailey
>mfw Ezio bangs Cristina, Rosa and Caterina and then settles for a fucking librarian
t. Buttblasted Britbong I know you're still mad that we kicked your ass in the revolution but it's been over 200 years. Don't you think it's time to get over it?
Henry Flores
>Multiplayer PvP that's a lot more than it has any right to be it was amazing, and i have no fucking idea when it's coming back
Oliver Myers
Haven't played rogue/unity. Unity always seems to get mixed reviews. But if I'm gonna play them I might as well while they're still on sale. How are they?
Hunter Hall
I don't see what's wrong about that? Are you saying she isn't hot?
Easton Stewart
She's not ugly but she's a dog compared to some of the top shelf pussy Ezio has had
Angel Edwards
>Rosa Damn shame. Best girl and she's forgotten about after her second appearance.
>hating III makes you un-american >the game where Paul Revere rides bitch to a half breed indian during his midnight ride Rogue is Black Flag lite, and Unity was terrible, IMO. Unity only has its setting, graphics and assassination missions going for it, everything else is a boring, buggy mess. The story in particular makes me mad because of how halfassed it was.
Brody Jones
Rogue has a cool main character and story, and sailing I guess. Everything else around it is pretty bland. Unity has an insanely well made setting and has the best traditional AC gameplay, and is more stealth oriented. However it leaves a lot to be desired because the story and characters are very badly written and certain characters that should get more screentime just don't, and then there's the issue that it barely uses its amazing setting.
Both are alright, but nothing too grand.
Eli Harris
It doesn't help that her voice actress fucking died like right after AC2's release.
Connor Stewart
The story is laughably bad, you really have to wonder what were they doing to have it turn out so bad, but at least Unity tried to bring some much needed difficulty into the series and a way to emphasize stealth in a game where you're supposed to be an assassin. Too bad in practice it only made fighting enemies just as simple as before, only a hundred times more tedious.
Kevin Collins
daily reminder Ezio trilogy is the best AC
Thomas Mitchell
Objectively it has more contents and it does improves many thing from Origins that were lacking. However it's more about quality vs quantity. Origins has better protag and better story. Origins also felt more polished than Odyssey. And Origins has more TECHNOLOGY compared to Odyssey. But really, it's up to you whether do you prefer Egypt or Greek.
Ian Diaz
>Rogue >cool story The plot is predicated on Achilles acting like a complete fucking moron and refusing to believe Shay about the precursor device for absolutely no reason. And as soon as Shay switches sides, suddenly the Templars are the ones rebuilding the neighborhood while the Assassins subjugate the people. And Shay's stance on Templar/Assassin ideology is never even explored, he defects purely because of Achilles being a retard and then timeskip and wham suddenly he 100% believes in the Templar cause.
Brody Lopez
it really isn't the best, that title would go to origins or 3
Jonathan Nelson
>or 3 Nice bait. Though funnily enough the ship in 3 felt much better and weightier than the one in Black Flag, which is entirely about being a pirate.
Jack Parker
Yeah you're right, but I still liked what they were going for, even if it's poorly written. Atleast it's not a mess to follow like Unity.
Kevin Bailey
No kidding, it's pretty crazy. I still would have liked to see more of her within 2.
Jayden Barnes
The ending made me want to smash my monitor. Syndicate too, for that matter. >Oops, looks like you wasted your time on that Arno thing >Oops, we fucked up and let the bad guys win in a cutscene again XD
Mason Carter
Enough about the games, which is the best assassin outfit in the series? I personally have a soft spot for how clean and simple Altair's is.
Elijah Nguyen
you have shit taste
Chase Russell
>Hating on AC3
God damn this meme needs to die...
Unironically this; Everybody shills Ezio so fucking hard because he never matures/stays the same throughout the games.
The little maturity he does end up showing is slammed in Revelations because he tries to stop being an arrogant, cocky old man, and still ends up fucking that up with the huge waste of time missions, like the one where you killed some guys uncle for no reason, despite him being on your side.
At least Connor fucking investigated, and whatever mistake he made he paid for. Hell, every "Assassin" actually did some form of scouting before killing someone, not to mention actually being given a damn good/clear reason why they should kill the person. Ezio just got off free because of the fandom from shills despite his childlike short comings.
That being said, Revelations - 3 - 4 had some damn good multiplayer, pic related.
>God damn this meme needs to die... AC3 fucking sucks, m8. Making a game in a colonial setting where all the buildings are two stories tall and the streets are too wide is not a great idea when one of your main selling points is climbing everything you find.
Chase Edwards
Altair wins for being inconspicuous. Half of Shay's outfits are great, although I'm particularly fond of the colonial raider.
Austin Ward
>Revelations - 3 - 4 had some damn good multiplayer, pic related. >posts a Brotherhood pic I'm confused.
Christopher Lee
I'm very found of Ezio's ACR costume. Wish it appeared on later games.
You're entitled to your own opinion, doesn't mean I care. The tree climbing and hunting of the soldiers from the shadows more than made up for: >hur dur running on a road is somehow slower than running across rooftops that have jagged edges and corners this game won't let me parkour over
Also, fucking horses, man. Quicker than any of that gay anime running shit this series thinks it's good at.
Also Yes, that's from brotherhood, but the later games expanded upon the rest of the mechanics.
Austin Moore
Arno's robes are my favourite.
Easton Martinez
i haven't played all of them but i can say for certain that syndicate was one of the least enjoyable games i've ever played to completion
Logan Perez
It's in the OP
Parker Brown
Revelations was the game that killed the franchise for me. Brotherhood and 2 had pretty basic revenge stories sure but Revelations was some cliche ass "gotta find yourself" story in the brownest ugliest shit city imaginable.
Jordan Young
kill yourself nigger. revelations was great. that underground city was kino and you have shit taste. the hook was the best addition to his arsenal.
Lucas Cox
Man, I used to love this series when I was a teen, and Brotherhood was my first AC, then I brought AC1 and even being "limited" I still loved it, 2, Revelations and 3 where good too with pretty memorable things(3 being the one I was the most hyped). BF and Rougue are good too.
What happened to it? This series were so comfy, now I don't even know what is going on.
>just killed some guy and another player saw me >he stares at me, I stare back >suddenly sprint at him >he gets scared shitless and runs away until I can't see him anymore It was pretty neat. I loved the mindgames you could do with the crowds.
Hunter Cox
>Unity, and 3 better than 2 >unity better than anything >3 above 2 stop b8ing you baka ass faggot
revelations was ugly as sin you shitskin, and ezios charm as a swashbuckler was already stretched thin in brotherhood, they even made fun of his age there, like 20 years before revelations is taking place. Revelations was shit, it had tower defenses, the bombs were a shit gimmick, and the fucking janitsars who only tried to quickscope you were the worst enemies in the series so far but enjoy your grimy grey and brown buildings and indian toilet streets, and women dressed in burkhas I guess, Im revisiting Rome and Venetia
Juan Turner
>implying unity is shit after the fixes its one of the best you retard
Not really, the game is bloated to fuck and the combat is a tedious pain in the ass.
Nicholas Butler
>a giant orgy of players killing eachoter because you get stuck in the killing animation >mfw just paitently waiting for the focus meter to fill up for an instant 1st position
>a guy is obviously my hunter >isnt even blending or walking >motherfucker is sprinting >gets stabbed by a fucker right as he comes at me >the guy who saved me is my target >mfw
>blending in a crowd with some body doubles >my killer goes and kills one of us >it's not me >tries again >nope >one last try >misses again and I knock him out That was way more fun than it had any right to be.
Leo Bailey
yeah go revisit those good games whilei finish off the colection with the last good AC game you overly racist scumbag faggot. Fuck Rome this was a much better town.
Robert Hernandez
>retains his target after killing a civilian doesnt work that way
Whenever there's more than two guys there's always one faggot that falls back and either shoots at you or throws bombs the whole fight, it's only annoying.
Noah Thomas
I clearly remember being able to punch him, however.
Noah Foster
its like its a bad idea to fight an entire group of enemies at once unity is the first and only one that got it right
If they had another way to discourage it other than making the fight take longer through forcing you to dodge roll at given times, sure, but that wasn't hard or challenging. Just boring.
Liam Smith
Cristina died, but if she hadn't she would have been GOAT girl
Daniel Martinez
>in that Revelations game mode where the map is split into two halves, one belonging to each team and you can only kill the enemy in your own field. Some sort of capture the flag, I think >guy tries to kill me >cross over to my side in the nick of time >he stays at the other side and taunts me >I taunt back >this goes on for three or four more taunts >as I taunt again he sprints in and punches me Well played.
Chase Phillips
based retard
Lincoln Johnson
>Revelations I think thats in 3 not revelations
Oliver Hughes
It's got to be Revelations, I didn't try 3's MP and I was playing as not-Vlad the Impaler.
Jayden Morales
Yeah maybe to contrarian retards. Was literally the epitome of shitty ubisoft open world games.
Ethan Perez
I'm replaying one right now before playing Origins and Odyssey. I have a few questions. 1)Should I bother with full sync in AC1? Do I get anything? 2)Are the DLCs worth it in Origins/Odyssey?
Easton Morales
>overly racist
You must be a fucking turk or something only a roach would be this defensive over something that ugly
I own AC3 on PC, might hop back on some day. Too poor to properly get a good PC to run it though.
Shame you aren't on Xbox, I would've loved to help boost each other/complete matches/hunt for achievements.
Xavier Parker
Am I the only one who played/enjoyed Liberation? It's not great but it has a certain charm to it. The soundtrack is great too
Noah Cox
>tfw will never have all the achievements in Brotherhood because of the damn MP-only ones It will haunt me forever.
Ethan Ward
Why even put them in the game if they don't unlock anything?
Asher Garcia
They removed the MP ones on PS4. I bought the ezio collection just to finally 100% brotherhood and Revelations
Thomas Perry
Qt 3.14 black chick haunts my dreams, both wet and dry. Glad it's being remastered.
Jason Robinson
You do unlock achievements for it, but it's an incredibly shitty reward. ACII did something similar and what you got out of it was a cape that made people immediately hostile to you.
Elijah Davis
Always digged how Old Man Ezio was in his prime of his life and in better shape and skill than ever during that game.
David Sanders
The story was incomprehensible, at least in the Vita version. It also ran like complete shit.
Samuel Jenkins
It couldn't have been worse than Unity's story.
Liam Cook
She was a hot fucking librarian though. Tits McBooks with red hair, you can't go wrong.
Lincoln Martinez
Oh man I remember how people were bitching up and down (at least on youtube) about how Ubisoft was going to make that game a 'america's so great, america is free" and shit, but when the game came out LITERALLY THE OPPOSITE and was extremely critical of the faults on the american characters in-game and how the assassins were in the wrong, no one said shit. It was hilarious and fucking infuriating.
Adam Clark
Damn, I fucking loved AC3 gameplay mechanics >Dual counters >Sword pounce >Connor fucking makes a man land on his head >Hunting soldiers in a forest with heavy show on the night and hanging them like the fucking Predator >Naval combat >Assassins minions >Those special soldiers
The Assassin's creed, and their entire organization in fact, is retarded and awful anyway. The Templars are constantly depicted as cartoonish pointlessly evil mind-control villains and yet they're STILL somehow more likeable than the actual "good guys" you're supposed to support. Ezio is a great protagonist specifically *because* he's such a shitty Assassin. He at least has some motivations and goals of his own he pursues that give him character, rather than just opposing another group.
Elijah Turner
They managed to get so far away so quickly from what I thought was interesting about the series that even by 2/Brotherhood there was plenty to complain about. They took a morally grey story and just flanderized it beyond recognition. Boring revenge theme, boring GTA-style mission design, and worst of all they split the game in two just to increase profits. Seeing them turning around a sequel at E3 2010 was when I knew the series was going to turn into Ubi's Tony Hawk or CoD; the next 7 years was a car crash in slow motion.
Mason Powell
AC3 was god, the story was bittersweet, and I get a lot of conjecture about what actually happened to Connor. I hope he got a happy ending. My main issue with it besides how the story just shit on him, over and over again, was how blending or hiding was almost impossible.
>Run Always some other schmuck around the corner. >Rooftops Always some gunmen on the rooftops spotting you with eagle eyes. >Hide Good luck before someone fucking finds you. The game made you fight through everything. A good meta considering how angry Connor must have been at the world, especially by the end, but it was shit for the gameplay itself.
Hunting during the winter was pure kino though.
Justin Stewart
You mean Syndicate, right? Surely no one would defend that dumpster fire.
Chase Miller
>didnt go anywhere with the first civilization story >you kill lucy for some reason I cant even remember being explained >you cant have identical wrist guards despite it being shown in all promo material >Rome setting was in the wrong time period >map was too flat compared to the previous game >combos got too flashy and kill chains ruined the point of ever running >that fucking pot plant mace There were some good parts like the war machine side missions and everything that involved the Borgias but I would still say 2 is better
Dominic Brown
AC3 is the best, AC, I remember it coming out in a time around MW3 and BF3, games like those were the peak of their franchises and I had so much fun and made so many memories in each.
I miss the fun and adventure AC3 brought with it's innovation to the franchise, counter to the following of trends Origins and Odyssey is trying to do.
Brody Clark
>Rogue is Black Flag lite What a reddit tier opinion. Black Flag is shit. I don't think any other AC game has more tailing/eavesdropping missions. Maybe the first one.
Jacob Gray
How's that Italian chode taste?
Jeremiah Watson
Nigga they all the same
Gabriel Long
So Brotherhood only happened because Ezios memories of Cristina were causing synchronization problems right?
Jayden Perry
Regardless of Black Flag's quality (I liked it), The Parting Glass is the best ending song for any of the games. Almost cry like a bitch every time because the Kenways got fucked over hard.
Did like how Haytham ended up as the Ezio of the Templars, though. That was cool. He was nice.
Colton Carter
Black Flag is a good pirate game (and most of the time even worse than what AC3 and Rouge did) but a bad Assassin game
Rogue feels a lot more like a sequel from AC3, I usual call it the end to the Kenway Trilogy (3, 4 and Rouge) due to how it takes place with some tree parkour mechanics.
4 is a bad AC game all around though.
Josiah Cox
Edward's, but only in Rogue or Unity. Black Flag and Origins both have too much shit cluttering the outfit - swords, a blowpipe/bows and shield.
Ayden Barnes
First AC sucked. It was repetitive as hell, the only reason people remember it fondly was because it pioneered the parkour system which felt cool as fuck at the time.
Landon Bell
I prefer 2, brotherhood is great but the same environment felt limiting and the story started to be less enjoyable. The multiplayer for brotherhood and revelations was the tits though.
Michael Diaz
I can't even imagine having taste this bad. MW3 and BF3 being peaks? AC3 having innovation? I say lite not because it's that bad, but because it's an actually shorter game. The missions were better and I loved the setting more than IV.
Jaxson Young
>I can't even imagine having taste this bad. MW3 and BF3 being peaks? AC3 having innovation? >"OMFG SOMEONE DOESN'T HAVE THE SAME OPINION AS I DO, REEEEEE AC3 BAD, REEEEE"