We were too harsh on this series. Now that Bioware is on its death bed, I am kinda sad we won't get another Dragon Age

I feel like that would be the most logical choice for most character origins. Only a female elf (Dalish or City Elf) would let him live, hoping for an ear rub.

>series.
Tthere is only one Dragon Age game, faggot

Hard to say, if garrus was always like he was in me2-3 I'd say him, but he is completely different in me1. Wrex is pretty great and only sides against you if you’re a faggot. Honorable mention goes out to varric, but inquisition made him into a cuck which bumps him down to third or fourth place

>he is completely different in me1.
How so? He is an ex-SEG-C fed up with the system in ME-1

I liked having Sten around because he had some good snark, and he consistently acted when he questioned the logic of something. It takes a lot to make the other party members speak up, but Sten speaks his objections from the moment something isn't right like when you first enter Haven.

Not Bioware, but Khelgar Ironfist was a good bro-type character as well. Nwn2 had some one-dimensional, but well-written companions.

Yeah, him confronting the Warden at Havenwas a good moment in western rpgs. I don't think a companion ever told the hero 'no' like that. I also like that his approval actually goes up if you disagree with him, grow a spine and talk back to him.

Varric is great in 2 and Inquisition. Possibly the only good part of both games.

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Morrigan vs Alistair can be hilarious

Varric isn’t very good in inquisition, he feels like a guest companion and not really a part of your team, plus his personal quest retconned his previous history for the worse

I always had those two in my party, morrigan bullying the shit out of alistair is hilarious, and the rare times when he wins the arguments are great too

>Instead of the inevitable Morrigan vs Leliana debate
That doesn't even happen often because anyone but baitposters know Morrigan is superior.
I liked to have Zev in the party to see how he would try to hit on the girls. Not even Wynne was safe but that bosom is truly magical

The most logical headcanon is that Duncan went on a recruitment drive pre-Ostagar, conscripting or convincing all the 6 possible Origins protagonists and sending the responsible ones to Ostagar and babysitting the flight risks (elf and dwarf commoner). They manage to regroup after the battle and decide to stick together.

>Cousland rogue
Team leader, arrogant dick with a heart of gold, rogue. Secretly makes baby with Morrigan, forces Alistair to marry Anora and recruits Loghain, breaking friendship with Alistair. More of a cold, respectful relation between king and warden after.
>Aeducan princess
Second-in-command, confused by the surface world, elitist at first but gets more humble as the quest goes on.
>Amellbro
Everyone's best friend, high learning skill, advises the nobles and knows stuff (history, magic), romances Leliana

Considered cannon fodder (to some degree) by the team leaders:
>Mahariel elf
Stoic elf girl with chip on her shoulder, dislikes humans, hates town and cities. Romeo/Juliet romance with Alistair broken up by Cousland. Gets along with Carta Dwarf and Sten.
>Brosca Dwarf
Does the illegal/morally questionable and stealth stuff in the quest, a bit 'evil', likes being a warden since it's a step up for him.
>Tabris elf
Doesn't want to be a warden, tries to run a lot, keeps getting hauled back. Stays after learning about the taint/to save Denerim. Argues to keep Zevran alive, gets assassin training.

The dog you got after everything went to shit in Origins is still best party member.

>because anyone but baitposters know Morrigan is superior
Don't get me wrong, they're both great, but Leliana is better that accent

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What really happens is your chosen origin lives and the others die with Duncan not there

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I hate random shit Bioware companions choose to get offended about.

>Murder a widow in front of her kids
>No one says anything
>Loot a random barrel
>Alistair: Wow, stealing from the poor? Thats a new low. *Alistair disaproves

Varric x Merrill was pretty good in DA2. Merrill in general is a great character with some of the most fun story quests. I mean, fun for DA2 standards.

>Cousland Rouge
>Noble Family training their child to be an underhanded bellow the belt puncher
>Not training them to be a chad sword and shield using warrior
Yeah, okay retard.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHA....HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Good one

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"ARE WE TO GO SO FAR NORTH IT TURNS SOUTH?"
"It's the perfect plan, they will never suspect it!"
>Sten is now attacking the warden
One of the best moments in the game

I think that was a collection box in the Chantry, like candles/donation box box in a real church. I don't remember the widow/children thing, when was that?
A second son could have rogue-like inclinations, medium armour + longbow and oratory lessons.

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What widow?

Do they ever meet in DA:I? Never got that far sadly, though I mean to one day.

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I really hate that you cant take Leliana as a companion in Inquisition.

I really hate she didn't stay decapitated from the first game.

Kinda, they barely interact though, I think alistair actually has more interactions with morrigan

I might be remembering wrong (Been forever since I played inquisition) but didnt she get pissy you got blasted into the future or something that you had no control over?

Shale and Sten and Dog is the best companion trio

I mean, she did get tortured for like 10-20 years so she wasn’t exactly in the right state of mind

Which game has the best modding community?

Inquisition mods let you make dorian straight

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Is there a mod to make Vivienne white yet? It's been years, and I've skin tone/makeup changes for other companions.

Also, what's the best face mod for Merrill? She looks weird in vanilla DA2.

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>We were too harsh on this series
Not at all. Compare 1 to 2. We were not too harsh. If anything we were not harsh enough.

Morrigan = Zevran = Wynne > Sten > Alistair > Oghren >>>> Leliana = Golem cunt

DAO:A was borderline DA2 tier and DA2 itself is pure dogshit.
Can't really say much about DAI apart from the fact that it's better than the second one, not that it's much of an achievement. I just kinda stopped playing it after a few hours and never came back, can't quite put my finger on it.

Overall sad it had to end this way, I genuinely bingeplayed through DAO 3 times in a row a year or so ago and it was an absolute blast each time.

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fuck off sloot

What is the best class to play as in DA:O? Either for fun or story? I played the game when it first came out and was a mage, but never finished it. I remember the mage lore being really good though

Really? Nexus doesnt ban it? Are there mods to fix the dyke haircuts that all your female companions have?

I believe arcane fighter or whatever is the most efficient but pretty boring to play. The shapeshifting abilities are cool as fuck but useless in combat.

Mage-Destruction magic

youtube.com/watch?v=94i2JGA3LE0

Mage. Most versatile, most powerful, most fun.
Can be a healslut, a nuker or an armor wearing buff-based unkillable hybrid, can combo, draw magic power from blood or turn into a spider, can have debuffs, buffs, 3 billion different stuns or any combination of thereof.

Other classes simply can't compete and not because they're bad, it's just mages are that good.

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Honestly, every class has some fun builds if you take the time to plan it out. My last playthrough was a sword/shield warrior (Beserker/Reaver, almost everything in willpower and constituion) optimised not to die and get the achievement. I only had to reload once or twice in the entire game because she got ko'd. Often she'd still be standing and win through attrition when the entire team had been wiped. I've heard archery is OP in Awakening, and dual wield rogue is also very strong in the base game.

How would Merrill/Mahariel/Dalish elves in general feel about Solas' revelations? If you tried to tell a people threatened with extinction, servitude and religious conversion their culture is completely wrong, they might not react too kindly.

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I just remembered people got triggered over that mod while praising the lesbian Cassandra mod, also cassandras dyke hair fits her

My dalish elf was addicted to human cock so she would probably be opposed to the eggs plan

Alistair is actually incredibly whinny and wishy-washy.

2 is still fun though. And Inquisition is actually really good, but gets shit on constantly

Dalish + Qunari is the patrician combo.

Not really, he sticks with you through basically everything besides being a cuckhold and sparing loghain

Kill yourself

Qunari males are gross, only the females from concept art are decent and even then they were turned into garbage in inquisition

But then again, a logical Warden wouldn't accept most of the followers.
Oghren is an untrustworthy and borderline suicidal drunk. Sten is a psychopathic murderer that comes from a completely different culture and is outspoken about how little loyalty he has towards you. Leliana is a whore turned church girl who can hear voices in her head from the "Maker" and is chased by another psycho slut. Shale is an unstable golem. Zevran is a serial-killer faggot who acts completely selfishly and will betray you later on unless you suck his dick.

The only logical companions are Morrigan, the dog, Alistair and Wynne.

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Leliana can get you benefits from the chantry and you don’t really know she’s a dirty spyslut until later, plus lock picking. Dwarf dude is a dwarf and knows the deep roads as well as where branka was going so it makes sense to pick him up. You’re right about zevran and sten though, only excuse for getting sten is that he’s a bigguy and an extra body to kill darkspawn with

Leliana is introduced as a character when she defends Loghain's men. You then learn that she defended them because she heard voices telling her to do it. Major red flags right there. Oghren is only useful in the Deep Roads section and serves no purpose when you finally leave them.
And yeah, Sten is big and strong, but you find him in a cage because he killed the men, women and children that saved his life. He's a cunt that you have no reason to trust or like.

Leliana actually helps you in that scene, she tries to defuse the situation and then when that fails defends you in combat

Arcane Warrior, Spirit Healer Battlemage Elf Mage, so you can stick it to everybody by being the most awesome mage and elf around in a world where both are hated to varying degrees.

The sonicfox of thedas

Pretty much, yes.
It does unlock a bunch of dialog options tho.

That's not an argument in her favor. Some random nun pulling out her daggers and killing some random people in the pub over a conflict that doesn't concern her doesn't make her a very trustworthy companion.

I personally prefer playing human noble, usually games make being human boring (inquisition), but origins really got it right with the political angle and the revenge storyline, it really made the world come alive

>but origins really got it right with the political angle and the revenge storyline
I agree whole heartedly.

You are trying to stop a blight with only two people and a dog, if someone is willing to risk their life to help you why not, shes a skilled fighter and fills a role you need in a party as well as being far more charismatic than a failed templar and an autistic swamp witch

I liked the dog.

Yeah, he turned out to be the second time I have had a missing companion when playing a Bioware game after the cat lady in KOTOR.

>How would Merrill/Mahariel/Dalish elves in general feel about Solas' revelations?

Solas himself tells you that the Dalish reacted badly when he tried to tell them the truth. That's why he is so butthurt about the Dalish elves in general.

You would get another 2 and 3, Bioware would NEVER make another 1.

Solas is pretty autistic, I imagine he just showed up at a dalish camp and started going off about spirits and trying to btfo dalish with logic and facts

Good.
Origins was great, 2 was meh at best (mostly due to scaling back from a country-wide threat to a single city + overly-repetitive nearby caves), and 3 was complete dogshit thanks to making it a single player MMO with infinite pointless fetch quests.

>tfw you sleep for a thousand years and wake up just in time to tell some shitty elves that they are a bunch of retarded fuck ups that will never be real elves

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I never played past origins. Were the others any good? I know II was where hamburger hepler came around and shit all over the video game industry.

Nah just keep the good memories from 1 and don't bother with the rest.

>want to merge the fade with real world
>give device to insane mage
>help dude close the tear in the fade in direct opposition to your main goal
>now trying to tear a hole in the fade that you just helped seal
Eggboi playing 4d chess

Friendly reminder that the only right walkthrough is:
DAO
>be human male
>fuck highborn woman in your castle
>kiss Morrigan right after swamp
>fuck her right after first city
>fuck elf whore in elf camp
>kiss peasant woman in Redcliffe
>kiss Leliana
>fuck Leliana
>fuck all pretty whores in Denerim
>have threesome with Leliana and Isabella
>impregnate Morrigan in the end

DA2
>be male Hawk
>fuck qt insane elf
DAI
>be male inq
>fuck Cass since you have no other options

Two had some ok ideas but honestly felt more like a dlc story made into a full game with horrid actual game design, inquisition can be modded to be ok and has a plot that is at least on the same level of scale as origins, although it has the least interesting companions as well as the dullest protagonist

>fucking anyone besides morrigan
Pointless waste of time

First Dragon age has been loved forever though it was pushy even then (FUCK zevran and FUCK elves) but beyond that no. Inquisition got jerked off to hell and back by most normie gamers.

3 is good though

This. DA:O alredy tried to dumb down the genre to make it more normie friendly and it was terribly balanced but it was still good. DA2 was supposed to be an expansion but they thought they could milk it better as a full game. And DA3 was just to check how much more could they pull the rope.

>DA2
>DAI
Opinion discarded

but we will

Shale was pretty based.

>You would get another 2 and 3, Bioware would NEVER make another 1.
This

Bioware deserve its death.

2 was unfinished. It felt early access. Like some quests seemed like they were supposed to have more parts, the same dungeon was reused like 4 times, and combat encounters just seem like the devs just dropped some enemies down randomly.

Inquisition is really good. Great story. One of the best soundtracks in all of video games. Combat is fun. Only downside is the Ubisoft-tier collectables you need to grind, but you can mod that out.

Bioware is literally garbage so no fucks given. They actually expected anyone other than tumblr feminazis to find this sexually attractive?

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What's wrong with Merrill?

I might be in the minority, but I liked the DA2 take on elves. They looked like actual another species, not just pretty humans with knife ears.

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He's gay, so he's supposed to be attractive to gays. I'm more angry there are no attractive females.

Based on the mental chess game he played with Iron Bull, he seems to have a tendency for doing shit that makes no sense but in the end gets the results he wants.

Just imagine how they would've massacred The Warden in the next game. I'd rather think of him as a warrior in the hopeless fight against the decease than seeing the abominaton he'll become under new "bioware"

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Wrong! You stop a blight with 4 different armies while being accompanied by several people.
If the people that accompany you prove unreliable then you can't allow them to put your mission at risk.

>feminazis
>being attracted to a man

Guess he needs to be a fat fucking furry in order to suit your shitty homo taste.

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>They looked like actual another species, not just pretty humans with knife ears.

I'd take pretty humans with knife ears over the weird crack addicts that DA2 turned them into. Fenris and Merril may have looked somewhat decent, but just look at non-mains like the slave elf girl from Fenris's quest or Zevran.

>Yea Forums always has and will continue to love the first Dragon Age
Dragon Age was gay ass trash you fucking zoomer

t. 20yo dude

Mother fucker......have you ever been on tumblr gay blogs? have you seen the type of men gays usually chase after? guys like (nsfw) italianjocks.blog/

Seemingly straight looking men, not that thing that Dorian is. When have gays ever been attracted to that? Chris Redfield is a gay mans dream for a reason.

Yes, feminazis, because only they typically are into "obscure niche" looking types.

Watch out, don't tell reactionaries that can't even get what teenage girls, the most obvious demographic to bait, like, nevermind homos.

Ah well. Different strokes for different cocks I guess.

I'm currently playing through all three games, since I only just got DA2 and DA:I. Here's another unpopular opinion: I'm surprisingly having a great deal of fun with DA2. Yes, it's oversimplified and dumbed down. Yes, the dungeons are obvious cut&paste jobs. But I'm still enjoying the storytelling and characters WAY more than I would have believed based on Yea Forums griping.
On the other hand: holy shit DA:O has aged badly, both technically and storywise. I had to force myself through it to get that final save.

>feminazis
>obscure niche looking type

You're just using words without having any idea of what they mean, aren't you? Dorian is a pretty boy and is no different from any other homo character that is popular with fujos and middle aged homos.

Who gives a shit if you have bad taste, you dumb nigger?

>fujos
There's that word you just learned about while not knowing what it means! How fun!

I actually really liked Dorian
Not as a romance because I'm not a fag, and his storyline with his father makes no fucking sense, but his Party banter was good just don't do his side quests

What the fuck are you even going on about?

Does it upset you if someone likes what you don't?

Yeah don't do his sidequest where you have to murder the Venatori. And especially don't do the sidequest where you can tell him to stop acting like a bitch and go confront his father about the whole "almost lobotomized me so he can have grandkids" thing. Being mad that your father would go that far just to continue his legacy makes no sense.

No, i'm fully aware, literally NO ONE but tumblrites, feminazis and sjws on tumblr find Dorian attractive. Same people who found those god awfully designed characters in Andromeda "fine character design". That's his demographic, and that's who he mostly appeals to. FACT majority of normal gays wanted Cullen as an option instead.

No one wanted Cullen other than tumblr queens from the early DAO days with their femelves, or homos salty Gaider denied them Alistair literally, instead of metaphorically, riding the Warden dick.

>gays
>normal

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I liked him (other than his dumb personal mission), he's just unfuckable is all.

If you want to defend a shit game then make an actual defense of it and list the good stuff. Saying "popularly hated X is actually great while popularly liked Y is actually shit" just makes you a contrarian shitposter.

I gotta hand it to ubisoft. Odyssey was a sjw mess at times, but atleast they gave the gays this studly mother fucker.

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Dragon Age was never good, can't believe I actually liked this shit series.

>studly

He's a twink with a goatee.

is this the most popular sfm dog model?

Female or male inquisitor? I watched a few youtube videos and it seems the female has better voice actor

I liked DA2 only because HAWKE is the only good voiced DA protagonist, almost Shepard quality, but not quite. Also I liked it because Varric is the single best companion in DA. The only one besides Morrigon or Alistair to touch ME characters. Other than that DA2 was shit.

>fucking a sp*rtan
Gross, that’s basically animal abuse

They both are lame, but fem elf has the largest romance pool, 6 to the 4 everyone else gets

That's not what I read from your earlier comment.
But I thought I actually made my point as far as I could without writing a blog about it. Read it again. Counterpoints welcome.

Athenians have the best architecture, and the highest average IQ no doubt. Athens is beautiful, and thus is why I spent most of the time killing Spartans. But when you need that godly dick, Spartans over athenians nigga.

You didn't. You just said that it has flaws and you liked it, while DA:O aged badly.
You didn't specify anything.

>giving the gays anything

I only figured out there were actually a lot of options with the Lothering bandits on my xth playthrough. These kind of little options really add life to the game imho.

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>t.alkibiades

>Literally didn't even occur to this guy that OP could be trying to say that we were too hard on 2 and Inq
Lmoa

Ok, let me use some more words then, and hope this thread doesn't die meanwhile.

DA:O:
+ wider and more open world
+ companion equipment
- looks "old" technically (well, it IS old), but not in a good way
- story fades into dull grind halfway through faction missions
- disappointing endgame
- outside of core people most companions are unlikeable dicks
- dialogue trips over itself way more often than it should

DA2:
+ story feels fresh and ties into DA:O in interesting way
+ storytelling more "tight" (hard to describe) and more gritty
+ interesting dramatic characters
+ twists and surprises in side quests
+ skill trees and character customization, can actually have different support roles for all three companion mages, for instance
- dumbed down, simplified
- almost no companion equipment
- cut&paste dungeons

So basically, DA2 had flaws, but for me they were in such minor areas that I found strong story carried over them easily. DA:O was the best game ever when it came out but now felt unimaginative slogfest. Personal opinions of course.
There. Can probably come up with more, but time limits. Agree/disagree?

Backtab rogue has the most fun and dynamic gameplay.

Man fuck Bioware for not making Hawke a companion in DAI. He should've replaced Dorian.

He probably did but he was right to immediately disregard such a stupid fucking idea.

Is OP trying to imply that Awakening gets shit? Worst that happens to it is getting overlooked

He is handsome af, and fuck Ubisoft for not allowing him to be made into a lieutenant. All that trouble and he still ends up with Kyra bitch ass.

I disagree, all of your companions in da2 are assholes besides varric and bethany, and the story isn’t tight at all, it goes off on random shit until suddenly mage v templar, it’s incredibly dull

I think that quest fucked up for me, they never gave me the last mission and I just assassinated the dude on my own

>Story feels fresh
How? It's another ancient evil awakens but its red lyrium.
>Storytelling more tight and gritty
Fucking what? Did you not murder knife or pay attention to some of the fucked up things going on while the country fell into chaos?
>Twists and surprises in sidequests
What surprises? Bioware are so painfully obvious in their writing it isn't even funny any more.
>skill trees and character customization, can actually have different support roles for all three companion mages, for instance
You could do that in the first, and with the two mages you could have even more options for support.

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What dull grind? DA:O keeps up the same pace for the entire game starting with Lothering and until the final battle. And what's so bad about the endgame? Or dialogue?

Also, 3 of the +'s for DA2 are the exact same thing, and neither are clarified. What interesting "dramatic characters" and what twists?
>+ skill trees and character customization, can actually have different support roles for all three companion mages, for instance
You give away that you haven't played either game, shitposter.

Ah well, I guess they can't please everyone. Meanwhile I'm going to continue having great fun with DA2. Let's see if the quality remains the same until the end; I'm barely halfway through.

The high point of DAI was Hushed Whispers/Champions of just but mostly Hushed Whispers, and the battle that took place after. After that, whole game took a nose dive.

You know at this point, I can't be upset because like Bioware this was obvious where it was going, a low tier effort at trolling, I had hoped differently but oh well.

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Is this a troll post?

>- looks "old" technically (well, it IS old), but not in a good way
Looks way better than DA2. The environments actually have color. There is a lot of environmental clutter objects strewn around. Character armor/clothing is clean and high res. In DA2 environments are completely brown and barren. At best, there might be an empty table in a corner, or a few rocks here and there to break up a path. And a lot of NPC clothing and armor is as low res as the environment, which looks terrible during cutscenes.

>+ storytelling more "tight" (hard to describe) and more gritty
Lol no. Their are tens of hours of MMO-style fetch side quests that have you meandering around the city doing jack shit. In DA:O there are fewer side quests, but they are more thought out and usually build the lore around the main story.

It suffers from not actually mattering in the long run, choices in da2 have like no actual impact on inquisition

Dragon Age 1 was a good game whose gameplay suggested vast potential for development in future installments. Unfortunately, BioWare devs thought it was more important to push their far-left political ideology in the faces of gamers through storylines rather than focus on developing high-quality or groundbreaking innovative new gameplay. Business 101 teaches us to cater to the audience. BioWare ignored the 99% share of its audience (males, ages 16-45) and instead alienated the vast majority of that audience with their batshit crazy far-left ideology in their storylines.

SJWs should not be in the business of game-making. People play games for entertainment. They do not want to have fringe politics shoved in their faces at a time when they are looking to kick back and relax. BioWare made poor business choices, and now they are spiraling down and out of business. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Best way to fix BioWare is to let it rot on the vine and wither away. They have become overrun with SJWs and marxist ideology. Best to just let BioWare go. It's dead and dead.

>Behold! The disease plaguing BioWare. I present to you the BioWare creative development team.

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We should have had Leliana also. There is really no reason they should have to "replace" anyone. The game already had a staggering amount of dialogue with everyone. It really couldn't have been that much work to record an extra 30 minutes or so required to have Hawke and Leliana be companions.

i dont mind. it wasnt good since dragon age 2.
origins was amazing and it nosedived right after that.

Should have made the whole series about the warden like mass effect was about shepard, hawke feels like a side character and the inquisitior despite having a voice managed to have less personality than a mute protag

Which DA:O dlcs integrate into the main story? I assume Warden's Keep and Shale do. But are the others just standalone stories?

>choices in da2 have like no actual impact on inquisition
choices don't even matter in da2's own story.
>Who's the murder?
>Doesn't matter mom dies
>Which side did you pik?
>Doesn't matter fight both of them in the end
>Did you help Anders?
>Doesn't matter church still gets blown up
Fuck da2's "story"

>Those #SmashThePatriarchy boots though

Fuck BioWare.

>three
user which universe are you from?

I agree. They should correct that going forward. Make a new MC, and plan out a trilogy based around Solas, Tevinter, and the Black City. The have the same MC for the whole trilogy.

For all the flak that DA2 gets, I love all the banter that the party has and how it updates with branching character arcs and relationships over the years. They come across less like a group of stalwart heroes and more like a dysfunctional family just trying to get by as their only home falls apart around them.

Well except for Fenris and Anders. I appreciate having varying points of view in the group, but I really wish that I could call them out more on their hypocrisy.

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Return to Ostagar is integrated.

Awakening is the real dragon age 2, Lelianas is just background info, morrigans is an extended epilogue for people who romanced morrigan aka patricians, and the one in dwarf land is completely irrelevant and basically never mentioned again

No.
A lot of the writers stated before the DA2 exodus that going around viewing different viewpoints and stories in of itself throughout the years was the original point of the series, to specifically be different from ME's Shepard wanking, and that's not a bad thing.
Trying to have it all and do none of it well was a an issue that directly lead to Inquisition's flaws, or am I still the only one that actually did a playthrough as Qunari and noted the differences between it and the rest of the Origins, especially Elf.

I guess we experience these twists and drama differently. I might be easily amused, but so far I've been very immersed with the story.
I've now played DA:O through twice and halfway through DA2. No shitposting.

This is not trolling, I'm genuinely trying to have a conversation here, as far as is possible with this image board format. It's not easy.

Looks are subjective of course, but I like the DA2 art a lot. A disclaimer though: I'm playing these games with a shitty old PS3 I have in my temporary work contractor apartment as my main source of entertainment. And yes, I should have mentioned fetch missions as a minus for DA2. For some reason they have sort of flowed with my main game enough that they haven't been distrupting... yet.

Don't spoil it, I still have DA:I unplayed as yet.

All right, I learnt my lesson: no critiquing DA:O in Yea Forums. Can I still say I like DA2 a lot? Don't know about DA:I yet.

I think 2 and Inquisition both had good moments, but their problems fall on opposite ends of the spectrum in terms of level design and side-quest content.

DA2 had a great premise, and some fun characters that really do try to give you the sense of watching your home city change over several years. But the dev time was half-baked, and you end up going down the same recycled city streets and fighting the same handful of enemies so many times that it feels like you're running literal chores for people after a while. A repetitive city watch simulator held up by a handful of likable party members and decent story elements.

Inquisition over-compensated for DA2's small size with massive empty environments. It's the prettiest and most explorative that Dragon Age has ever been, but the side-content suffers for it, making constant fetch quests feel like more of a singleplayer MMO than a grand story-driven adventure. Not terrible, just kind of bland and interchangeable for most of the run-time.

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>I guess we experience these twists and drama differently. I might be easily amused, but so far I've been very immersed with the story.
You still haven't clarified anything. I'm 100% sure at this point that the only knowledge you have of either game comes from reddit and Yea Forums and that you've never actually played either game.

Sure you can say that, we of course will call you a fucking retard though. Also Anders blows up the chantry sparking the mage rebellion and nothing you actually do matters because it all plays out within the confines of the story they want to tell.

Friendly reminder that Merrill is adorable and deserves lots of hugs and happiness.
Also very fun banter.

Is she the ugliest Bioware character ever made?

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Is it RIP Bioware now that Anthem is a flop?

>This is not trolling, I'm genuinely trying to have a conversation here
I'm sure you are, that's why you brushed off any counter to points you listed and .

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Should would be an 8/10 in ME: Andromeda.

She only deserves those after plenty of bullying because she's too dumb to be using blood magic. Shes the perfect candidate for why blood mage is seen as evil.

Check out some of the Andromeda faces m8.

A few of inquisitions maps are actually really cool, the forest in french-land was really beautiful and was also decently sized, while the battlefield map in french-land is way too fucking big and all around boring

Probably. Bioware has a few separate teams. EA may just fire the Anthem and Mass Effect teams instead of close the whole studio. We'll see.

Origins is a better story than Shadows of Amn.

Well yes the bullying comes first, as always.

This is a copy paste from a famous game, he did not play anything.

We all loved Origins and how promising it was, but we all also saw Inquisition. It's better to get nothing at all than to be served shit after shit until the end of time, don't you think?

If they do fire the Anthem and Mass Effect team they might as well close it since that's where their "talent" resides. Remember Anthem was supposed to be this masterpiece akin to Bob Dylan and that's why Andromeda was bad because all the "talent" was busy.

Wow sure got me. I'm having a lengthy argument with multiple angry Yea Forums posters here based solely on leddit hearsay, just for shits and giggles. Have it your way.

Since when is someone NOT called a fucking retard on Yea Forums, about any topic? And don't spoil it... I'd better go and play it some more before everything is ruined.

Nothing that went wrong in Merril's story was even a result of her blood magic though.

It was either people blindly panicking and stupidly running to their deaths at the sight of her, or her Keeper jumping the gun and willingly taking in a demon as a point of precaution without even leaving a note for her clan explaining what she was doing and why she was doing it.

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I almost played qunari but the cc options were god awful. I don’t think it was trying to be like mass effect that caused that issue but rather the writers having huge amounts of bias for female elf mages

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The only good game of the series is the first one. Even if Bioware were to make another DA, it would be worse again because Bioware is no longer capable of making games like the original DA, much less so of improving on it as a sequel should.

I could take none of the npcs seriously in Andromeda lmao. You had literal amerimutt memes with orange hair in the game talking about science shit. It was hilarious.

Only Sten. I ignored Leliana, the dwarf, and the prince (can't remember his name atm).

I never said that, I said she herself is too dumb and will fuck something up sooner or later. Everyone else acting like a completely retard around her is something I can't fix but I can make sure she stays safe.

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Alistair, I only kept him around so Morrigan had someone to bully.

>Wow sure got me. I'm having a lengthy argument with multiple angry Yea Forums posters here based solely on leddit hearsay, just for shits and giggles. Have it your way.
Admitting it all "ironically" is still admitting it.

Goddamn Merrill's whole clan were retards.

>YO IMMA GET POSSESSED BY A DEMON AND TRY TO KILL YOU SO A DEMON DOESN'T TRY TO KILL YOU.

Like, fucking what?

There's no argument though, you're just deflecting and refusing to defend anything you said for (you)s and I'm bored enough to give you the attention you so crave.

Bethesda and NuBioware are both god awful at designing character faces. It's an insult that these are considered AAA developers in 2019. I had to mod every companion in Fallout 4

I loved the initial look and atmosphere of all the different Inquisition maps, I just wish that there was more to actually find in them.

I spent nearly 20 hours in the Hinterlands because I was used to being a completionist in Bioware games, but the only things I really remember at this point are the first dragon encounter, collecting some animal skins for blankets, recruiting Blackwall, and saving some farmer's lost druffalo.

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David Gaider (Baldur's Gate II, Dragon Age, KOTOR) had nothing to do with Andromeda or Anthem. He is probably working on DA4. Same for Matthew Goldman, the artist that designed the armors for the Dragon Age series. He isn't credited in Anthem or Andromeda either.

So two of Bioware's ONLY talented people left are unaccounted for.

Yeah girl, you couldn't just seal off the cave or something if you were that panicked over it? You had to snort the drugs yourself so no one else could take them?

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Don't know what more do you want... I'm typing my ass off here into this sucky little comment window and there is only so much text one can fit into a thread before it's whisked into digital oblivion. I'm about three beers deep into my free night and not inclined to write a fucking essay to answer people whose next answer will probably be "lol faggot".
I addressed those points as I could but I now realize these arguments are basically reduced into matters of taste and we really can't have a decent discussion about those. Or we can, but then we're all proper retards.

The desert is the only map that benefits from it’s fuckhuge size, because it adds to they atmosphere

Everything about merril's story is stupid, and she's just as much to blame for how everyone jumped the gun
>Muh peoples
>The mirror holds the truth to my peoples
>Let's ignore that the mirror isn't even elvish to begin with
>Lets also ignored that it killed one of your clansmen, and nearly killed the warden if they are dalish
>But muh peoples

nothing to feel sad user. they got what they deserved.

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>Are you winning son?

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dropped the game at the fade and never went back. Any reasons I should retry it?

And then the clan leader doesn't tell anyone else her plan. So after I kill her stupid ass, effectively saving the clan camp from being the next victims, I have to exterminate the entire clan anyway because they all assume it was your fault.

>Nobles would favour sword and board front line fodder that don't comprimise their ethics instead of cunning underhanded assholes that are willing to put aside their pride to force alliances in their games of politics.
Laughs_in_serf.messengerpigeon

>Let's ignore that the mirror isn't even elvish to begin with
What do you mean? The Eluvians were tools of the ancient elves before Elvhenan went to shit.

I dunno. For completions sake?

No, they copied the architecture from the race (don't remember, nor care to look up names) that enslaved them after they were free. And that mirror wasn't from them anyways. It was straight up from that race that enslaved them, so it had nothing to do with the elves period.

I didn't even know that you could finish DA2 without slaughtering Merrill's whole clan until I saw that it was an option on Inquisition's save importer.

Explaining the truth to them just makes them go apeshit, while saying "Hey, the keeper's death was clearly all Merrill's fault but I'll take responsibility for her" apparently makes them leave you alone.

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>Reduced into matters of taste
No they're reduced into matters of you've never read a good book past what was required of you in school and even those didn't stick. You've blatantly lied about the story being tight because it meanders from point to point with each arc having a different focus and the "main" issue only being addressed on the side and in the final act where nothing you do matters. We are 200 posts in and far from oblivion, if you wanted to have a DA thread then at least come up with something better than being a retard.

You have to keep him around for most of the game IIRC, which makes sense story wise.

Idk, does it get better after the fade? because that part was boring af

I can see that PoV as well, although to be fair, ignoring romances, elves specifically are the "story important" race of Inquistion, like humans for Origin. 2 non-withstanding.
Qunari really lost out on a lot of shit from the get-go that this is more blatant, for example your Origin is Tal-Voshoth and Plus at least in Origins, dwarves got a damn good bit of dialogue for one part of the game, and at least elves could play around with their dialogues, especially if a city elf or Dalish.
Here most of what could have been interesting is pretty much Bull lecturing you on the Qun, because you are pretty much a commoner human ala early Hawke's story but with horns.

No as in I kept him in party, instead of at camp.

Fuck that. I slaughtered them all, then later got Merrill to agree that they were were all idiots.

Now what is there to defend, if I may ask? Way up there I listed a clear list of likes and dislikes about each game. Then other people declared that they had a different opinion about various points in that list. Ok, that's great. But then what? We each have experienced a video game differently. Should someone change their experience retrospectively because someone has a different taste about things? Don't think so. Let's just continue enjoying things as we each see fit.

Feel free not to give any more (You):s. I probably shouldn't have opened my mouth about this anyway. Just feeling slightly drunk and argumentative.

Yes. It gets. That part is universally hated for a reason.

There's a mod to skip the fade that was indeed pretty crappy.
But if you didn't enjoy the rest before the fade then no, no reason to go back.

My favourite games are warband, modded skyrim and dragons dogma, would i like Inquisition? the combat always looked weird to me.

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>from the race (don't remember, nor care to look up names) that enslaved them
You mean the Evanuris, which were also powerful ancient elves?

I don't remember if there was a third party before that or not.

>David Gaider (Baldur's Gate II, Dragon Age, KOTOR) had nothing to do with Andromeda or Anthem. He is probably working on DA4
Are you serious? I want you to Google Gaydar's name and then realize how fucking stupid you are. Also that fat fuck could only write one story, you're the super special chosen one who has to stop the ancient evil that has awakened.

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The combat isn't as good as Warband or Dragon's Dogma by a long shot. Its better than Skyrim though. I'd say you'd probably like Inquisition. Its got large open maps like the other games you mentioned, and a better story than any of them.

you'll never find out how gay Alistair truly is

And that's exactly what DA:O and DA:I were about. And its what DA4 will be about.

But you are just focusing on the initial plot setup. What makes KOTOR and DA so good is the way it is told and the companions that surround you. Gaider writes good companions.

Nah, his balls just never dropped. He's an eternal manchild.

>What is there to defend
>Just keeps ignoring the points that directly contradict what he claimed
No people didn't list their opinion, they pointed out you were an idiot and now your butthurt and refusing to admit you were wrong. On top of refusing to clarify anything asked from previous posts. Also you're not argumentative, you're defensive because being argumentative would mean you'd defend anything you claimed beyond "its muh opinions!"

>I don't remember if there was a third party before that or not.
There wasn't. It was elves that all are basically evolved from spirits, then they hard fucked up, the Veil was created and humans now exist and picked at the remains to create their own magic slave empire.
Qunari as a race are even a crossbreed between elves and dragons.
It's pretty much the dwarves that have entirely separate origins(Titans) and they have yet to properly delve into them either. We don't even know if they predate the ancient elves or was just at the same time or exactly how they relate to shit in the world.

I never got Shale before this playthrough. She's fantastic bantz and dialogue wise and kind of cute?, but I wish I hadn't already been so far in the story that I decked out my usual party to the best specs I could and Alistair is already a tank because his defense is so high he's fucking invulnerable.

How can the Dalish ever hope to aspire to his level of dickishness?
He really is the quintessential elf.

That's not fucking talent, that's repeating the same one story with different paint and it got old after the first couple of tellings. Also are you seriously trying to play the Naruto game of "no dude it totally gets great x in", how many games before I'm allowed to call Gaydar a damn hack who would have just told about another ancient evil awakens. Each fucking game and story is just another, bigger, more ancient evil awakening you fucking mong. Also nice side step on realizing that he doesn't work there anymore dipshit.

I think they were worried that doing so would give Hawke a defined character that might contradict how people played him/her.

No, the niggas that opened the fade and tainted the golden city. Duncan even makes the comment that it's from them in origins before he breaks the damn thing. Unless inquisition add things to the elves being slaves, don't know never played it. Also
>Very important grey warden breaks mirror
>Says its very dangerous don't mess with it
>MUH PEOPLES

There's a bunch of stuff in the late game where it seems like they stopped caring about how a specific companion would react, and just blanked approval changes as, "Morrigan, Zevran, Shale = kick babies and kittens for money, everyone else = paragons of humanity."

Are you really saying you didn't enjoy the story and companions in Baldur's Gate 2, KOTOR, and DA:O, despite them all have a similar plot premise?

The next Dragon Age will be written by Gaider and be about an Ancient Evil (Solas) awakening and threatening the world. You will play as the Aspect of The Maker (choosen one) or some shit, and need to do a pilgrimage to 5 places to make the artifact needed to beat him. Never-the-less, the game's story will be told in a compelling well, and we will undoubtedly get some nice companions out of it.

You're way behind, pretty much Elves are the super tier race, Solas is the Dread Wolf(as in the literal God, who were all just super powered elves spirits), Dwarves are from Titans the original rules of the material world, until Solas reeeeed about his waifu being killed by the other gods over the rest of the elves being enslaved to them and sealed them away, creating the veil, putting the Titans to sleep so they didn't just wipe the now material bound elves, and finally waking up to realize everything he fought for was wasted because the dalish brand themselves with slave markings(their face tattoos) or live in ghettos and got btfo at every turn by others.

I actually appreciated Anders's story because he at least has a clear character arc that starts from good intentions and proceeds to explore how and why he's slowly going batshit insane.

I just wish that we didn't have to wait until the very ending to tell him just how crazy he was clearly becoming. You didn't even bomb the right building you lunatic. You hated Knight Commander Meredith, so your solution was to bomb the one neutral party in the city?

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leliana's accent is shit
SHIT

>Unless inquisition add things to the elves being slaves

You know the "Old Gods" that taught the Tevinter mages how to use magic and tempted them to enter the Golden City? Those were elves.

The Tevinter experimented with the Eluvians way after the fact, but they were much later to the party than the ancient elves.

>The next plot will be written by Gaydar
No it won't, also after those is where it got old numbnuts. Also once again he doesn't fucking work there you absolute retar, he left in 2016.

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>Cousland
>ever not being a red-blooded hero of valor who slings bants with Alistair and Morrigan like he was born to (and continues from the moment his dog raids the pantry) and helps his best buddy Alistair mature into a proper king while the Warden himself falls in love with an evil swamp witch much to the worry of everyone around him, and dicks her so hard he fucks the evil out and puts everything on the line to get out of Dodge, follow her to the ends of the world, and turn her into the best damn mother in the series

DA:I goes full kangz with the elves. Elves were always the nigger standin in the game, and DA:I puts a guy named Solas who is supposed to be like Black Panther. The elves were actually super advanced and taught the Tevinter's everything they know. Then they turned into Dragon's and went to sleep for some reason.

Don’t forget:
>Carter/Bethany joining the Templars/Circle or joining the Wardens makes no difference outside of the outfits they wear, even in the Corepheus mission where Anders is effected. They also don’t show up at all in DAI when they should replace Stroud for the Warden plot.
>If Varric keeps the Red Lyrium it doesn’t effect him at all in DA2 or DAI.
>However the Arishok is dealt with does not matter at all, Hawke still becomes Champion

Kay, didn't know they changed that much.

>spoiler
Brainlet detected.
But seriously, pay attention to her actions and dialogues, Elthina was not neutral, or at least cared about neutrality, she was just the king of her sandcastle and wanted things to stay that way, even if "outsiders" like Leliana though there was risk.
Yeah, Anders basically committed an act that was wholly unnecessary in the long run, no one's doubting that. But I do agree with you, I like how he actually did explore he was losing it and wouldn't even consider your attempts to stop him beforehand(see some personal quests).

You take that back.

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DA:I adds a lot of good lore. You should play it, if just for the codex.

I now want to run a D&D campaign with players willing to select from this, thanks and pic related.

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That's a neat idea.

God I miss Hawke

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>Well except for Fenris and Anders. I appreciate having varying points of view in the group, but I really wish that I could call them out more on their hypocrisy.

Well luckily they're more than happy enough to point out each other's hypocrisy in each and every goddamn conversation.

DA2, DA:I and Heroes of Dragon Age, which was a mobile game. What universe are you from?

>"Old Gods" that taught the Tevinter mages how to use magic and tempted them to enter the Golden City?
Was it implied that the old Elven Gods were still actively trying to escape.

I thought part of the horror of what the Tevinters found was that they had originally hoped to usurp the Maker and/or claim divinity for themselves, only to find the Golden City and see that the "throne of Heaven" was empty.

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What gender even is this?

So, is there any hope for Dragon Age Furry Genocide?

>can I still say I like DA2 a lot?
You can, but no one will take what you’re saying seriously. It’s the FO76 of the Dragon Age franchise.

You could kill some werewolves in Origins.

Nonbinary ;)

>reveal to his female elf lover that he is the Dread Wolf
>makes a fucking "What is it the Dalish like to say? May the Dread wolf take you?" sex joke

The only person that can rival that level of dickishness is sarcastic Hawke.

I wouldn't go that far. DA2 was a quick cash-in on EA's part, stretching out what was supposed to be a smaller project into a full game and then forcing it out the door before it was done, but I still think it has elements of older Bioware's creativity and charm that make me not regret playing through it.

FO76 was just a bad idea executed badly in every facet.

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A lot of what happened is still up in the air. But we know there were 9 elven elder gods, and 7 "old gods". So the 7 old gods + Flemeth and Solas are probably the 9 elven gods. What the Tevinters found in the Golden City and what happened to it, as well as why the 7 old gods are sleeping is still up in the air.

what mods do I get?

you suck my dick you thumbnail-posting fool
her accent is shit and doubly shit when the other option is claudia motherfucking black vocally jerking you off

>inb4 DA4 character creator will have "assigned gender" and "current gender" options

Pakled.
>we are smart

Not really, if they want back to the style of 1 Yea Forums would of loved it. Casualization is the cancer killing half decent vydia. Also the dlc was balls.

>there are people who were surprised that shale was a woman instead of guessing as soon as they saw that rotund rocky ass and thigh gap

For which game?

>It’s the FO76 of the Dragon Age franchise.
I really don't see how. If you want to say that it's bad game, that's fine, but you should probably do so without trying to pin random labels to it.

The gems gave it away for me, that and the sarcastic bitchiness.

My nigga

Are the archdemons really elven gods then? What’s the deal with them? And where the fuck did humans come from and why will they not survive the veil tearing but elves somehow will?

origins, unless there is a way to fix da2 since it released, I haven't been following things, but I think I have grown since then and might even make different choices in these rpgs
the good ones from here? nexusmods.com/dragonage/mods/top/
anything else?

>We were too harsh on this series
No.Just no.

Anyone read the books? Are they any good?

>Are the archdemons really elven gods then?
Its not explicitly spelled out, but heavily hinted.

If you’re in to gay porn.

How, they got sealed in the fade and the archdemons are found underground? I’m not really a fan of them making it so that everything was elves

I only played DA:O but I fucking loved it desu.
Should I bother playing 2 and Inquisition?

Really? Are is there fag shit in them?

2 is a fun trainwreck.
Inquisition is a boring trainwreck.
Pirate them.

>and why will they not survive the veil tearing but elves somehow will?

Solas is crashing the Veil with no survivors. Literally no one is going to be safe because once the Veil is gone the world will basically be like how it was when the Inquisitor and Dorian got hurled into the future.

Eh, you don’t really need to play 2 because it only has like 2 things that are actually relevant to the story, inquisition might be something you like depending on if you can mod it

What said except 2 is only fun if you play Sarcastic Hawke.

I thought he said the elves will survive but humans won’t? Idk I only played trespasser once

There were two sets of super elves. The group of super elves that were assholes were sealed up in the Fade and the other group was sealed up in the ground.

Of all the Carths, he's the least shitty.
Also you can tell him to stop being such a bitch and he actually listens, and changes for the rest of the game.

Sarcastic Hawke is the best option out of 3 shitty options, so that's not saying much.
It just makes you sound like a sassy faggot instead of a violent drunk or pussywhipped loser.

Is Cassandra the carth of inquisition?

CAN I GET YOU A LADDER
SO YOU CAN GET OFF MY BACK

>playing male hawke

Nah, he basically hints that pretty much everyone will die, and he's totally fine with that because it's not like he considers any of them to be real anyway (that's why a romanced Solas starts to panic because he starts to see the people around him as real). Plus he doesn't consider modern elves to be real elves anyway.

Don't play 2. It is like 1% relevant story and 99% boring combat and fetch quests. Either watch a "movie" of it on youtube or just read the wikia.

Inquisition you should definitely play though.

>sassy faggot
So, best girl.

... you ARE playing as female Hawke, right?

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Watch the Dawn of the Seeker anime, and you'll like Cassandra.

Based chad violent voice warden

I already like her though, she’s gap moe

>tfw your reverse psychology works and the Inquisitor drinks from the well like a dumbass, thus becoming a slave to Mythal and by proxy you as well

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Fucking miss those lines.
>First one to kill it gets the prize!

Universe where Sony censors and Nintendo doesn't.

>Implying I the omnipotent god player didn’t sacrifice the lame inquisitior so my wife morrigan would remain safe

>fuck highborn woman in your castle
I keep seeing this posted, pay more attention in game. The woman you fuck is a servant girl of a highborn family staying with you. She is a peasant. When you go to Denerim for the first time you can find her daughter standing in the market wondering why her mother hasn't come back. Play the game as any other race and the mother will be there.

>We were too harsh on this series
there was only one good game in it.

>implying I the omnipotent god player didn't sacrifice the lame inquisitor so that dumb thot morrigan would not have a reason to show up ever again

The objective truth Yea Forums retards are going to """argue""" with despite knowing in their hearts it's objective truth.

>alright, ALRIGHT

>"what are you going to do when the elf gods wake up after you rip the Veil"
>"teehee, I have a plan"

Something tells me Solas doesn't actually have a plan and is just winging the whole thing.

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Its probably better that way, you saw how his last plan worked out.

Nah, I don't think some dumb woman can be Hawke. Lol!

No. Cawke is the only choice

>a woman can’t be an incompetent literal who that accomplishes nothing of value
Based feminist

>DA will LITERALLY die before we ever get to enter the Black City
yikes

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How does the game address an elf being Herald of Andraste if you pick an elf? Doesn't the Chantry think all non-humans are niggers?

I just want demon encounters to be unique again like in Origins.

They were mainly boring mooks in Inquisition.

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Good

>desire demon inquisition is literally just some normal looking dude
The days of naked women fondling themselves are over

After Bioware's dead I just want EA to give Mass Effect to a more competent dev. I don't want Mass Effect to die completely.

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A qunari inquisitior is even worse, also the inquisition apparently had an elf inquisitior a long ass time ago that you meet in one of the dlc

Blackwall.
Fenris also gets points for being right all the time despite looking like an FF reject.

>I just want EA to give Mass Effect to a more competent dev
EA don't have any competent devs.

EA would just ruin it anyway

Good, means morons won't give this shit company anymore money to find out what happens in a series that has gone to hell and shows no sign of coming back

Blackwall gets a ridiculous amount of hate for lying about being a grey warden which is stupid because he literally did more heroic things than most grey wardens as well as fighting darkspawn without any immunity to the blight

Didn't he also kill a woman and her child?

Dice is going to continue the Battlefront series with Mass Effect after the Star Wars license expires.

>wanting more of inquisition

Ha

I kinda prefer it that way. Whatever they have planned for the Black city is going to be a let down. I prefer to just leave it to the imagination, and surround it with conflicting legends.

>new dragon age will be politisised gay visual novel
>no cute dog
>no funny violent man
>no way to act like a retard

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Wrong! Hawke starts a retarded war that makes religious fags and mage fags all kill one another pointlessly.
He's based and male.

the first game was the only one worth playing

Actually anders starts the war, hawke tries and fails to stop it, and goes on to try and fail to stop civil war in orlais, as well as try and fail to stop cory

Anders starts the war only with Hawke's help, and he can only survive with Hawke's help.
Regardless, almost the entire issue with the circle could've been avoided if Hawke didn't help Varric's brother discover the red lyrium.

It all could have been avoided if hawke and his retarded family hadn’t fled from ferelden considering the warden ended the blight in less than a year

Sure, just bring up the murders again.

>make Qunari Inquisitor
>everyone assumes I'm there to convert everyone to the Qun when Adaar has literally never once followed the Qun in their entire lives
>everyone is awestruck as the size of this lad/lass whenever I go somewhere new
>unique dialogue with Bull and other characters
Why is Adaar such a comfy Inquisitor to play?

I think he wasn't aware of them being there as well.
His orders were "just fucking kill them", he wasn't told who they were and assumed soldiers.
I could be wrong, it's been a long time.

There are a few dialogues about it but there isn't actually much, you have more different stuff being a Dorf or a Qunari

Why are player qunari so strangely shaped with ugly cornrows instead of the long and flowing white hair they are supposed to have with tiny baby horns instead of the giant dragon looking ones all the other qunari have

I'm not, DA:O sucked.

Iron Bull looks fucking awful too, the only decent looking qunari are in Trespasser.

Alistair is a consistently good character and the best "Carth archetype" Bioware has created

At least he has horns. Although to be fair all the hair options looked like pure shit in inquisition

Best way to play

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Is it established that the horns get bigger with age? Adaar was implied to be on the younger side of Qunari so that might explain their smaller horn size. Also Adaar was a Vashoth their whole lives, maybe they just never knew of the traditional hair styling of their people

I keep meaning to play DA2 and I already own it. What specifically is bad about it?

I think it's a shame that Merrill didn't get a mention in Inquisition considering how much emphasis was put on Eluvians in the end.

>fuck qt insane elf

Which one? Fenris or Merrill?

That's the best thing to happen, unfortunately. I think Mass Effect is fated to become the new Dead Space, RIP.

*clears throat* I'm gonna say it!

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I hope you like the same 3 maps reused over and over again.

Indeed, though I went with a female Adaar since I'm a big Sumalee Montano fan

Also Knight Enchanters are best mages

>playing fem hawke when male hawke is such a stud

It was very, very rushed after DA:O became a surprise hit, and it fucking shows that in spades. IIRC there was barely a year between the release dates

Cast him in

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Sten was such a bro, and I remember Qunari in DA2 being a real threat, they should have been the endgame instead of the act ii villains. If DA4 ever comes, I hope they manage to juggle the narrative threat from Old Elves, Qunari world domination and Tevinter.

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Now that you mention it, Darkspawn is a pretty good subtle derogatory name for niggers.

Bruh they could have easily made Hawke a companion, all they had to do was account for the bigger decisions he made, which weren't even that many to begin with. Most of the non-important side shit they could have left out all together. Him and Varric talking about their history would have been preferable to Sera, Bull and Dorian exchanging sexual innuendo every 5 minutes and arguing with each other like 5 year olds lmao

Dragon age 2 was fun

>hear Templeman's voice and expect an eloquent schemer a la Kain
>end up getting ORLEASIANS GET OUT REEEEEEEEEE: the character
He makes it work, for what that's worth, and his more humble approach when he shows up in Inquisition was great

>Just imagine how they would've massacred The Warden in the next game.
It wouldn't have happened anyway because DA as a series is all about following the world and its unfolding events rather than a specific character.

>Sera, Bull and Dorian exchanging sexual innuendo every 5 minutes and arguing with each other like 5 year olds
So why is it so enjoyable when Morrigan and Alistair do that instead?

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How the fuck did Leliana manage to miss not only Solas's spies that were in the Inquisition, but also the Qunari spies as well?

Because they're actually good characters, and their banter was interesting.

Nobody wants to hear about what Iron Bull wants to do with Cassandra's armor.

Solas was decent though, one of the only salvageable characters in DAI next to Varric and....that brown chick who's name I forget, isabelle or something.

>men and women are supposed to do specific tasks/jobs
>if a woman wants to be a solider, a man's role, then for all intents and purposes she is no longer a woman, but a man who happens to have tits
The Qun is so amazingly progressive and simultaneously moronically conservative, I love it.

>have you seen the type of men gays usually chase after?
I mean I usually go for bears.

What makes banter is funny is when otherwise developed characters interact in an unexpected way. Sera, Bull, and Dorian all openly talk about the sexuality constantly, so their "banter" is really them just being repetitive. Also, they are unattractive, and unattractive people talking about sex is gross.

>t. ironbull fucker

Alright Yea Forums, judgement time.
You get to marry any companion from throughout the games. Don't say why, just say who. Everyone else judges you accordingly.
I'll start.
Merrill.

Thanks! I'm still on the fence over which dwarf origin should be male and which should be female. It also makes more sense to me that the party on a world-saving quest should be a lot bigger. The presence of all the origins also makes some decisions more interesting. The Dalish elf escalates the werewolf situation by attacking when others are inclined to talk, forcing a fight out of loyalty to her people. I imagine the two dwarf origins also disagree on which king to support.

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cassandra is cute

alistair and morrigan are also unattractive

Vivienne is forgettable. Cassandra is cool though, especially if you watch the anime.

Flemeth.

I ain't talking about Vivienne, the other brown chick who sat at the desk outside the war room or whatever.

>actually liking Vivienne
Also Dorian was a god tier chad, the fuck are you smoking user?

Solas

Morrigan. EAT SHIT FAGGOTS SHE'S MINE

Josephine, you mean. She was __ok___

I wasn't talking about Viv you fucks. The advisor bitch. Also
>dorian
>chad

The fuck?

Honestly DAI has tons of problems that are completely unrelated to SJW shit. Like you could ignore the SJW stuff and there's still plenty to complain about with the game.

>not liking Vivienne

She's one of the few mages that isn't retarded and actually has sound reasoning for why the Circles are needed. It's just too bad that people were too busy hating her for stupid fucking reason to realize that she is absolutely right.

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There will never be a Dragon Age Origins 2, all the talent is long gone. I am eagerly awaiting for EA to send them to the block.

Oh Josephine. Yeah, she was cool. But also forgettable.

Scout Harding

Yeah I know she's not a party member but FUCK YOU she's my qt dwarf wife

>She was __ok___

But her taste in men was shitty.

I wish she had hair in the game. I fucking hate bald women.

Being right doesn't excuse one from being a total bitch to everyone and utilizing a world ending crisis for their own political gain. And she's only half-right about the circles since she wanted to go right back to the "keep the mages down and Templars up" system that started the whole mess to begin with

It's also lazy as fuck. They didn't want to model hairstyles so they just threw in a bunch of bald bullshit which made it even harder to mod in decent hairstyles.

Sten, Alister, and Shale are all bro tier. Sten especially because you have to actually use your brain when talking to him and not just pick the first choice of dialogue so instead of just trying to suck his dick you make him respect you and your decisions

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We weren't harsh enough. People actually bought 2 and Inquisition.

They should remaster the first game and reboot with a proper sequel that takes into account what made the first game better.

seems legit to me

I will say one thing good about Dorian. He was freaked out by shit the least out of all the companions. He wasn't afraid while lost in time. He joked while in the fade when Sera and Bull were being pussies. He didn't give a fuck about being in the tunnels in the descent dlc. Overall a better body guard then paper bull. It's too bad his personal quest sucks balls, and he's is fugly unless the light hits him right.

>Being right doesn't excuse one from being a total bitch to everyone and utilizing a world ending crisis for their own political gain.

Why not? Everyone else was doing it.

>since she wanted to go right back to the "keep the mages down and Templars up" system that started the whole mess to begin with

Except not, because if she becomes the next Divine she reforms the Circles and allows mages to have more power while keeping a tight leash on the Templars. Just because she's not running around screaming "Mage Power" doesn't mean she is satisfied with the way things are. She even says that she didn't mind the mage rebellion Fiona staged, but that it was the timing that was fucking stupid.

That second bit is something added in DA:I by someone who was a professional liar. There were no female Kossith in DA2, so I'll stick by Sten's take on the situation over some mercenaries who've probably never been to Seheron/the Qunari heartlands.

Varric was the best companion combat-wise though. He was broken as fuck with that reset ability plus the smoke upgrade that stacked and made people miss their shots. He made the game easy mode. You could literally stand on mobs spam the smoke and mines.

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It's the same sections of town used like 15 times.

Wasnt that an arranged marriage in her romance quest? Not like she actually choose the fucker herself

No, I'm talking about her with Blackwall. If neither is romanced they will hook up. Same with Dorian and Iron Bull.

>start DA2
>flemeth shows up as a dragon and she's younger
>mfw
>look on wiki
>there was a whole sidequest in DAO I missed where you and Morrigan decide to "kill" Flemeth before she possesses Morrigan like she did all her other daughters
How did I miss all this

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you're dumb as shit and didn't fuck best girl

It really only comes up if you bother to romance Morrigan

It really only comes up if you bother to romance Morrigan

I think I got this sidequest when I tried to bond with morrigan in the camp. But at that point flemeth was too strong and absolutely buttfucked my team within seconds.

she's not some random peasant, she's elevated and part of the entourage of the lady that visits you
her daughter is in the alienage, not the market

>Dragon Age: Origins is one of the best games of its gen. Love it
>Drop DA2 like 4 hours in because its shit
>Start DA:I, its actually pretty good
>mfw I am totally lost in the plot because like every character is from DAII, and they reference it constantly
Why did they do this? To try to get people to go back and buy DA2?

I just hate her cause she's black desu.

At least you're honest.

>Morrigan
>Willingly sharing
You made her drunk!

>Start DA:I, its actually pretty good
No, It isn't

Maybe he just really likes MMOs.

Its got a nice story. And animation is actually a lot better than normal Bioware.

>do quest to kill Flemteh, get to her shack in the woods
>she's completely calm when you announce that you're there for her head
>she responds by turning into a GOD DAMNED DRAGON, something that there's only like two of in the entire game
>have the fight of your life and barely squeak by a win
>DA2 comes along and reveals that Flemeth is alive and well
>she wasnt even trying during the fight and dying was at best a minor inconvenience for her
>DA:I reveals she's bonded with not-femZeus Mythal, an honest to fade god from olden times
>you fought and killed one of the most powerful beings in existance, and only "won" simply because she allowed you to

>Don't play 2. It is like 1% relevant story and 99% boring combat and fetch quests.
>Inquisition you should definitely play though.

Only real thing you need to know from DA2 is the mage rebellion starting and Corypheus, and he only shows up in DLC

At least Inquisition made it feel like everything you do, no matter how inane, helps your cause in some shape or form. Even a simple gathering quest was so your soldiers have some decent food or something

Thanks.

Shame it only has about 5 skills in total and absolutely no tactics or strategy.

You're the only person alive who thinks this.

Origins was the last good bio ware game. Everything since has gotten progressively worse and it's bioware's own fault for getting lazy and trying to bring in the tumblr audience.

>Alistair is the most closeted faggot character ever and he craves Duncan's cock and constantly cries about it
>Morrigan disapproves because that's how sexually challenged David Gaider sees every relationship with every woman in his life
>Leliana sings while she should be keeping her dumb mouth shut
>Oghren is an alcoholic dwarf, that's a concept never before seen in fantasy
>Sten is just a plain cunt and leaving him to rot in his cage would rid me of his horrible dialogue choices that could never be explained through Hegelian dialectic
>Wynne needs to die to make this game less insufferable
>Zevran is just a plain faggot, wow so progressive such character depth
>Shale actually costs money if you bought this piece of shit at the release
>and the only dog is just a dog which makes him mediocre, congrats bioware

Let me also add
>shit single player MMO gameplay mechanics
>clunky mechanics in combat which is mostly shit btw
>absolutely abysmal writing across the board
>terrible and uninspiring story
>useless tactics
>horrible path finding gets party stuck in an open field with a single fucking rock
>the worst level and dungeon design I have ever fucking seen in any RPG since the days of Amiga 500
>and while speaking of Amiga 500, the graphics of DAO looks like something you could run with 512KB of RAM because it's all brown and shit everywhere
>shit visual design
>shit engine and technology

So, why did I play it? All the way to end? I just wanted to see how full of shit you actually are Yea Forums. Jesus Christ you people are irredeemably retarded. How do you allow yourself to play shit like this, love it and make countless threads about it? How do you fucking live with yourselves? Are you just fucking BioWare shills? I sure hope so. I will never listen to your advice on any game ever. I'll go play a better RPG trying to forget this complete trash. That would probably be any RPG ever made.

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I always find him really shitty desu, how he don't want any responsability (he should be the leader cause he have more experience being grey warden) how naive he is, and how goodie 2 shoes he is suppose to be but find it hilarious if you betrayed Morrigan with her mother

Eder from Pillars of Ethernity is an Alistair doing well

>lists all the reasons a game is shit
>then admits to playing it all the way through
I know you're just trolling but this is some next level shit here

It's a pasta, user. It's the same every time.

>something that there's only like two of in the entire game
There's two High Dragons crammed in Awakening, and two in the entirety of Origins, with both of the latter being optional- one at the Sacred Urn mountaintop, and one being Flemeth.
>you fought and killed one of the most powerful beings in existance, and only "won" simply because she allowed you to
All this does is make me feel like the player didn't fucking matter anyway, and making the player feel like their accomplishments meant literally nothing is one of the worst things a dev can do.

>All this does is make me feel like the player didn't fucking matter anyway, and making the player feel like their accomplishments meant literally nothing is one of the worst things a dev can do.
What if one of the game's themes is how powerless you are?

Fuck no. We probably will get another one but it will be just as shit as all the games by bioware. Just let them die for christsake

What if the game's theme can suck my dick?

The theme might not be able to, but Leliana sure can.

Bland. Cold in the center. All around disgusting. Take this pasta back to the kitchen and fuck off.

Sten's a pretty cool guy

>All this does is make me feel like the player didn't fucking matter anyway, and making the player feel like their accomplishments meant literally nothing is one of the worst things a dev can do.

Yeah, story be damned if the self-inserting cuck of a player doesn't feel like things are happening how he wants it exactly to go.

If you've already invested so much time into something, why not just see it through instead of dropping it?
Something being a pasta doesn't make in untrue.

>All this does is make me feel like the player didn't fucking matter anyway, and making the player feel like their accomplishments meant literally nothing is one of the worst things a dev can do
Tell that to From and thier piles of Dark Souls money

When is Morrigan a theme?

>If you've already invested so much time into something, why not just see it through instead of dropping it?
Same reason you walk out of a movie, because you're wasting your time there.

So what did you guys think of The Darkspawn Chronicles? I thought it was pretty neat.

They both have feathers?

I wasn't aware Morrigan could suck things with her vagina

Don't wanna stick your dick between those gross yellow teeth?

I will say this, Bioware is one of the only big-name game devs in the US these days that still gives a shit about boss fights as a concept. Everyone else is like "it's too videogamey", but at least BW knows there's nothing wrong with a boss at the end of a level.

>insinuating mass effect 2 was not good

Bitch, leave.