Yfw Paz was a figment of your guilty conscience the whole time

>yfw Paz was a figment of your guilty conscience the whole time

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They put a bomb in her ass?

Ground Zeroes was better than The Phantom Pain

both suck my fucking nuts

Remember during PW every single man inside the MB had sex with Paz. She was MSF cum bucket.

I'm a metal gearlet and didn't realize this until i tried going back to her room and seen there's no way for it to exist

then she got replaced with quiet

I just think about how it was Venom, putting on a girly voice, talking in the tapes

This and listening to the 5th tape.

dont spoil it you fucking retard

but yeah that was heavy as fuck

>spoil a 4 yo game
lol

stupid excuse, 4 years is nothing. its the latest mgs entry dog

4 and prior is fair game

>yfw squall was dead the whole time

new nigger update broke infinite heaven now the game is stale again

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>and its not even your guilty conscience

It's the medic's conscience, who's technically who you originally are before you got brainwashed into becoming venom snake.

Have not played in years, their still updating it?

is that old snakes face with young snakes hair? looks fucked

Would have been a more interesting twist if there wasn't the J-pop Paz posters lying around.

I honestly don't know if it's supposed to look like that or is it because of conflict with other mods and messed up files (with the update breaking them even further )

Everything sucks now.

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There was the love box thing with Paz on the beach... she totally fucked Snake right?

>V has some of the best scenes in the series
>These are overshadowed by the fact that the game is like 40 hours long and nothing happens in between

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GZ + TPP is the greatest gaming achievement ever, both mechanically and ludonarratively. Unfortunely it didn't pander to brainlets so it has a mixed reception around here.

In her womb iirc.
>somewhere they'd never look

Skullface probably raped her too.

>>V has some of the best scenes in the series
such as?

thats not how mental illness or a guilty conscience works, at all.

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It's canon Skullface had Paz raped over and over as an interrogation method.

>Skullface probably raped her too.
No, Chico did that

retard

>ACKTUALLY
You people are insufferable, literally no friends irl. Please show me your medical degree.

You cannot be asking that
>The Trial of Huey
>Opening scene in the hospital
>Funeral scene at Motherbase

but why tho

I literally didn’t understand shit about this game.

see

It was a combination of her representing what was lost, and Venom being in complete denial over the fact that the cute little angel of MSF being a traitor.
MSF idolized her, and Venom used to be a regular grunt at MSF while she represented everything they fought for: peace.
And turns out even her was a double agent with her own agenda.

Is it a coincidence that the hallucination basically turned her into the Paz that everyone loved back then?
How convenient, she forgot everything that happened before and after being in MSF, and her whole personality transformed into that of the beautiful, peace loving teenage girl. The representation of everything all of them used to fight for was back and it was more perfect than ever before.

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i'll show you my dick and shove it so far up your ass you'll beg for more, sissy

It was pretty obvious after the ending to GZ.

The MGSV's biggest mistake was giving Venom the leather jacket but not the bicycle from the end of the game fuck you kojima.

>projecting this hard
Man, fags really are a different breed of mentally damaged subhuman aren't they?

>There's another...in my...
What did she mean by this?

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Venom Snake is not Big Boss he is a random MSf soldier that got blown up with them and turned into Big Boss' phantom

Now that's deep.

Ass.

Reminder that Big Medic was still evil for leading the Outer Heaven Uprising, which was a major stage in Big Boss' eventual and terrifying warmongering scheme.
Future actions matter more than how the past makes up a man.

>3332
So close.

My near quads tell the truth.

No my good man, I think not.
He and big sauce had the right idea, but morally ambiguous methods.

this

Think all you want, but Hideo Kojima thinks that his idea was entirely evil despite the nature and that, and the MGS games constantly reinforce how his mass terrorism will bring suffering and chaos to everyone.

>Morally ambigous
Euphemisms much? Outer Heaven was straight up evil, and Zanzibar Land was the same, only on a full scale. Big Boss was a supervillain by MG2.

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>I'm gonna steal all da nukes in the world fuck you nato
>Oh yeah, I'll steal the world's only solution to an energy crisis because muh war
>I'll destroy anyone who tries to get in my way because muh war
>I'm going to rig my own wars so that I can continue being Military Jesus and that everyone will suck my dick in the sauna because muh war
>I'm going to murder families, kidnap children and raise the victims I take as child soldiers because muh war, war is fun
Yeah, morally ambiguous my ass. Big Boss' true nature was being an warmongering demonic thieving, lying psychopath cheater who lived only for the pleasure. These are the best kinds of villains because you'll feel no sympathy for them as your heart immediately breaks in half.

He was a callous, cold and war drunken asshole with a god complex who loved being a terrorist, and Big Medic in the Uprising played the role as a sociopathic servant helping Big Boss reach his evil goals because he was gay for Big Boss, a warmonger and he loved being Big Boss, a warmonger. There is a reason why Big Medic hallucinates a red, bloody demon on him in the mirror seen in the ending before he punches it.

fuck paz

>tries to kill you with ZEKE

i'm glad the bitch blew up with a vag bomb

Should have killed her by the time she told all she had about Cipher. Either way, the bitch got what she deserved.

dumbfuck

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brainlet, its Venom's fault because he didn't find the bomb in time.

mgsV is an odd game as it's fun to play but the story is kinda shit

now if they did a mgs2 remake in 3d with fox engine...not needed as it's a classic, but still.

I'm going to break your fucking fingers.

Unironically thinking posting an insult and a wojack meme does anything other than rape your argument harder than Paz. Yep, no friends irl. So let's see that medical degree user, come on.

>you're too small brained to appreciate recycled missions as the game's finale topped off with an obvious twist the game's been beating over your head the entire time

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Recycled missions are an allegory for war repeating itself without end, which summarizes the entire franchise. Stop posting yourself as a baby and think before you hit submit next time.

Jesus christ

I actually can't tell if this was because of shitty game design covered up with mental gymnastics or if Kojima actually meant for this to be something put in on purpose so the players think about muh war.

Say peace...

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The Paz sidequest is so good it redeems the story

Brainlets also think the cassette tapes were laziness instead of delivering the theme of the game (language as a weapon) by pointing a metaphorical gun at the player, so that should be enough of an answer for you.

idk senpai, sounds like it's impossible to tell if it's a convoluted masterpiece or "it's modern art" cover-up of a rushed-out game with shitty aspects

Isn't Espionage all about keeping "the other side" guessing? Kojima might be an egocentric blowhard, but that doesn't mean he's an idiot.

Venom is a fucking idiot, but that's not his fault. I can't believe how poorly his character was handled and how much Kojima fucked up by wasting such a good opportunity. Venom should've been Big Boss's mistake, not his stupid "muh phantom". I wish was actually about what is was supposed to be -- Revenge. Venom should've be a bloodthirsty edgelord that'd say stupid philosophical and edgy bullshit about revenge that would make Kaz go nuclear on his pants. That would be the only acceptable explanation for Venom to accept his role as Big Boss. That ending just shows how retarted Big Boss's soldiers are and how much they blindly idealize him. That's how that ending made me feel and see Kojidrones as. I love the series but for fucks sake, Kojima really did shit on the bed on this one.

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Wasn't the whole point that you were supposed to be a brainwashed follower of big sus? That's why at the very end when you see the reality of what you are, a blood covered demon, you punch the mirror and refuse to believe it.

I don't remember that, but even if that's the case it doesn't make it any less stupid. Still, it could've worked if it was done properly. The shit Venom went through as Big Boss should've been his brainwashing, his desire for revenge and all that noise, that should've been it. Not only that but Venom should've gone through and done shit that would scar his psyche so much that he would take his role as Big Boss with a big smile on his stupid face.

How can Paz be the production of the imagination of a man who didn't spend time with her?

He... he literally did. That was the ending scene of the game.

Venom spent tons of time with her as the medic in MSF, and while he was still the medic in the helicopter he failed to locate the second bomb which is why he blames himself for her death when she chose to jump out of the helicopter and blow up.

What did the Medic do to Paz besides trying to save her?

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>somewhere they'd never look
What a fucking shit medic you are. You literally put your hand inside her guts, it's impossible not to feel there's a big fucking hard shit making the womb larger than it's supposed to be. Besides, in a security/black ops military scenario, the most likely place for women to hide shit in is not their fucking abdomen, it's their vagina. Even Meryl hid the keycard there.

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I'm pretty sure Skullface never did the raping himself but ordered the guards and Chico to do it. IDK, himself doing it doesn't fit his character really.

>tfw MGSV being a good game was a figmnet of your shitty conscience the whole time

>all the good scenes in the game were shown years before in various trailers
T-thanks Kojima.

Yes I know, user. The thing is WHY he did it, how he came to that point and whatnot. It never really felt like Venom was the demon he said he already was. I'll try my best to not sound edgy here but, Big Boss was the demon in MGSV, and I imagine that Venom would have to be a demon aswell to go with the plan of another demon like Big Boss. That's my point. I feel like the twist is a forced attempt to make BB and Venom equal in that regard, but they're not. Venom just says he is while BB is a fucking asshole. Throughout the game, Venom should've gone through things that make this difference irrevelant, stuff far worse than what we actually got. Then they would be equal, and then it would make sense for Venom to accept his role as a villain, because that's what BB obviously is. And I think that Venom was too stupid to see that even after the twist because he liked BB so much. That's really what this twist is. He just liked the idea of being BB and that's stupid.

The hospital level, saving Kaz, the shot of the cast walking towards the camera before OKB Zero, sneaking through OKB zero, killing Skullface/end monologue of chapter 1, killing your men in the quarantine, Huey trial, Paz hallucinations, and Big Boss saying goodbye to Ocelot.
It also has some really fun and well designed levels, the problem is the side missions and the open world were dull as shit.

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>making mgs threads after the blunder that is mgsv and konami
lol 100% every one of you fags are from /r/metalgearsolid

>Throughout the game, Venom should've gone through things that make this difference irrevelant, stuff far worse than what we actually got.
Like what do you have in mind?

Yeah that was pretty fucked, great moment.

GZ was way better overall but the Paz storyline in Phantom Pain was kino

>Maybe us getting killed was just balancing the scales.

Truly a diamond in a mediocre game.

He cared more than the real Big Boss that actually dealt with her

Paz's story in the PW and TPP tapes is probably the best character writing in the series even if the newer games kind of suck.

I think the game is great. Speaking of diamonds, the diamonds scene is even better than Paz's.
Glad I got the game late and wasn't spoiled on everything by the trailers.

idk user, there's just something about the "it was all in your head" trope that gets me. Makes me feel scared an vulnerable that all I can do is experience the world from this weak vessel that is my human brain.

I'M NUCLEAR

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