Ryzen 3 CPU spec leaks

cores don't matter in gaming, only clock speed, so it could be 4/8 for all I care

>cores don't matter in gaming, only clock speed
based brainlet

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Aren't more games lately requiring more cores?

They still cant outperform x2066
Kek try to keep up budget tier faggots

Some, but for the most part not many use them except trash games like Ubisoft shit and EA shit.

Architecture also matters. Thats why a 8700k running at 4.5 is still faster than a 2500k running at 4.5

So what's your point?
Are you implying tha there are consumer grade cpus with bigger base clockspeed?
Even most powerful Intel cpus are barely above 5ghz.
We've hit the the wall. Only new architecture will fix it.

For how long will you pajeets spread this rumor before selling your stock

>Not waiting for the ryzen 3 4700X in 2021, which will hit 5.7Ghz and have 24 cores.

now this is epic

Who here waiting for via/Zhaoxin chink chips? Don't buy tech made by white people

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>clock speed is all that matters

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I have a 1600 OC'd to it's limits but it's a 65W part, I'd switch for a 3600X but I'm worried for my current motherboard vrms

So does this mean I have to buy a new mobo or can I still stay with my B40 Tomahawk?

it's backwards compatible so if you already have a B450 then it'll still work

No
I think I'm gonna slap dat 3700X on my cheap B350 board and hope it does catch fire

i got ryzen 2600x recently so no. but i'm waiting on those new grapic cards that are supposed to change the gaming world or whatever.

Same and have felt no consequences from it whatsoever.

If they support same socket - probably. My R5 2600x is bottlenecking my 1080 ti

>2600x
>recently
congrats on shooting yourself in the foot considering how the 3600x is going to be as good as a 9900k

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are all those SKUs really necessary

>buy amd after 10 years although you said never ever
>in a few months intel releases its first 3D CPU with tons of cache
>it's so fast and groundbreaking you feel dumb you bought into amd lies
>mfw

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all this cope lmao

>3600x is going to be as good as a 9900k
if i had a dime for all those "our midrange is gonna be better than competitions top tier for a fraction of a price!" predictions

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>cores don't matter in gaming

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you must be poor and amdumb

>10nm+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ with a holographic 3d sticker and comes with a -50C 1.5kw water chiller in every box, but still doesnt come with a heat sink
>1% better than the last gen at most, 1% worse at best
INTEL IS OUR SAVIOR

youtu.be/Jc7lqFaTvPo?t=162
based retard

Weird that this thread pops up right now of all times. I'm making builds on PCPartPicker for fun and I just realised that AMD isn't as price-friendly as people meme it to be (at least as far as I can tell). You need expensive RAM. CL14 3200 MHz RAM will cost you a lot. For an extra £40 you could double the amount of RAM in your system (from 16 to 32 GBs) if you dropped down to CL16 which you apparently aren't supposed to do with Ryzen? Please advise. I really want and AMD build for the sake of it but the more I look into it the worse AMD seems.

>3200 Mhz when 3000 is more than acceptable
>needing more than 16GB of RAM if you're not a "content creator"

just buy lower clocked ram it won't kill you

>the 3600x is going to be as good as a 9900k
Yea, just like the 2700 was going to be as good as an 8700k.

>a fucking keynote
based shill retard

Ryzen will be fine with 3000MHz CL15 ram, ask pcbg

I have 16 GB and sometimes get close to running out sometimes.

RAM speeds make a huge difference with Ryzen unlike Intel because of the Infinity Fabric stuff, r-right?

>engineering sample beats intel's flagship by 500 points in cinebench
>broadcast live at a keynote for the world to see
>"hurr dat mean nothing shill!""
based faggot slurping on Intel's circumsized cock

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you do know that whenever amd comes close intel gets serious and blows them out of the water. happens every fucking time and that's why having competition is great.

wait for zen2, unironically. theoretically AMD could have decoupled RAM clocks to the cpu. In any case they should be noticeably better than zen+. If you absolutely don't need to upgrade right away, wait.

there's also the fact that AMD is actually finally improving significantly where intel is still seemingly floundering hard to look relevant

whoaaa, cinebench

>buy amd shit
>have amd problems
>rinse, repeat

somehow every year amd destroys intel yet intel still continues being the mainstream option and amd continues being shit for poor people with no money. fuck off.

Fast memory only matters for the Ryzen if the CPU is the bottleneck. If you use a 1070 or lower it really doesn't matter.

youtu.be/U4k_ErEg-FU

Why are there so many Intel fanboys in this thread? Do you hate competition? Do you hate the free market?

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Navi isn't going to be a 1080 ti. At most it's going to be the level of a 1070 ti.

intel was supposed to be off 10nm like 6 years ago now, and using 6nm now. They aren't because their engineering department is hardcore screwing the pooch. the only ones they are blowing out of the water are themselves right now. maybe another decade and they won't be, though

Oh yea man. Those new gpu from Intel in 2020 are totally going to blow amd out of the water.

you don't need 32 GB though even if you're "close to running out"
how RAM works is that your PC will see how much you have an reserve a massive portion of it to use if you want to run certain tasks, just because it says it's reserved a shit ton of RAM doesn't mean you will "run out"
some programs however can and will try to reserve too much, but most games are optimized not to do so
I still have 8GB of DDR3 in 2019 ffs and never "run out of ram" except in certain applications that try to draw more than what I have. One of the mods I play for STALKER are a good example since I get a CTD when it hits the limit.

If its true, then 3600X or 3700X.

>I still have 8GB of DDR3 in 2019 ffs and never "run out of ram"

you dont do anything intensive stop giving advice

these are the same "leaks" from fucking months ago

youtu.be/o4I_4i0_LeU?t=67
Intel has literally nothing to compete with at this point, 10nm isn't a big enough die shrink and it won't even be available until Q4 at the earliest
Intel and their fanboys are scared because for once AMD has been competent enough to finally provide some real competition, they're afraid that their purchases will be in vain as you will now be able to get a superior product for less money. I can hear faint screams from Israel saying "oy vey... anutha shoah..."

>still rocking a 6 year old i7 4990k
When the fuck do I upgrade this thing, it runs great.

>video editing
>gaming
>having many different chrome tabs open
kill yourself

yah, what you said bro. over here caring about processor companies super hard

reality of it is ppl will buy amd shit and have weird problems they cant single out and weird crashes...same as every generation

because its weak shit for poor people

>intel was supposed to be off 10nm like 6 years ago now, and using 6nm now.

that's not how capitalism works my dear user.

4790k*

Considering how you type like a 10 year old it's no surprise you have a 10 year old's perspective on the consumer CPU industry

>in a few months intel releases its first 3D CPU with tons of cache
I wonder how many kidneys will it cost.

mhm nowhere near as enlightened as your bizarre teenage consumer tribalist worship of, of course, the cheap option

Interesting which ones will be in consoles? 8 cores? 6 cores?

>CHEAP BAD
>OVERPRICED GOOD
I bet you own Razer products

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bro... you know thats what they were telling investors on their roadmap right? i'm not just pulling it out of my ass. intels old ass roadmaps said we'd be long off 10nm by now. do you even understand the benefits of using smaller dies? capitalism would love the benefits, mainly lower power consumption so theoretically everything can run x86 intel cpus instead of ARM which means more intel cpus bought

Still have a 2600K running at 5GHz and it's doing fine for 1080p60 with a 970. It's starting to get a bit old for sure but I can't think of a game where I had to downgrade graphics below High~ to get a solid framerate.

Nah. My i5 4690K is still performing admirably.

oh young poor user, that's where you've gone wrong

not cheap doesn't equal overpriced, it just equals not cheap...

>want to upgrade my 6600k but the 7700K is around 400$

yeap i'm waiting for ryzen 3

I am going to buy zen 2 if it is enough of an improvement over my current setup and you can't stop me

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i mean good luck, youll understand

ryzen 3600 will be the new king

Yeah, it's not cheap because it's overpriced.
You are ludicrously dumb, I can't stop laughing!

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Brother

Built my PC in late 2014 and its still going strong, all I did was upgrade to a 1060
I'm not a FPS elitist or falling for the 4K meme so I'm perfectly happy with what I got

they must be mad for not hiring you then cuz they'd be rich af.

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it's already enough of an improvement based on the leaks. the IPC on zen 2 is significantly better than devil's canyon and
dramatically increasing real core count will btfo it of course, I don't fully trust leaks/engineering sample benchmarks and will wait for real reviews.

You must've got a good sample because mine sucks ass, even at 4.4Ghz on all cores (all measly four of them that is)

you do realize that their revenue comes from a lot more than just the consumer market right? of course you don't

I'm not an EE why would you think that? It's just a no brainer that lowering their uarch is good for business because its good for real world use and better for marketers. Intel should be doing that for their own best interests

amd vs intel isn't about raw numbers

youll understand after you have it for a while

That picture tells us next to nothing.

but you said they're doing something horribly wrong.

> Cores don't matter in gaming

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so what's the best for gaming under 400 $ ?

meanwhile, on my other machine...

cat /proc/cpuinfo | more
processor : 0
vendor_id : AuthenticAMD
cpu family : 23
model : 1
model name : AMD Ryzen 5 1600 Six-Core Processor

yes, I understand. it works brilliantly.

ah the other machien thats not really used for anything

any IPC improvements?

>only clock speed matters for games

Which is why Netburst was such a great architecture.

OH WAIT.

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I spun up a couple VMs to host things for friends. game servers and such. I even run my own stuff, including a file server, seedbox, among other things

>Multi-core doesn't matter!
>Productivity doesn't matter!
>Price/performance doesn't matter!
>Performance per watt doesn't matter!
>Power usage doesn't matter!
>Temperatures don't matter!
>Soldered dies don't matter!
>Stutters don't matter!
>Streaming doesn't matter!
>Data centers don't matter!
>Locked CPUs don't matter!
>OEMs don't matter!
>Hyperscalers don't matter!
>Upgradeability doesn't matter!
>Anti-competitive business practices don't matter!
>Locked platform features don't matter!
>Synthetic loads don't matter!
>PCI-e lanes don't matter!
>Burnt pins don't matter!
>Heat doesn't matter!
>1771w cooler doesn't matter!
>Server space doesn't matter!
>ECC support doesn't matter!
>Free RAID doesn't matter!
>NVMe RAID doesn't matter!
>StoreMI doesn't matter!
>IPC doesn't matter!
>7nm doesn't matter!
>StoreMI doesn't matter!
>HEDT doesn't matter!
>Stock coolers don't matter!
>Security doesn't matter!
>Games don't always matter!
>Enterprise doesn't matter!
>Hyperthreading doesn't matter!
>VMware doesn't matter!
>MySQL doesn't matter!
>Unix doesn't matter!
>Linux doesn't matter!
>Waffer yields don't matter!
>Benchmarks after full patches don't matter!
>Asian markets don't matter!
>Own fabrics doens't matter!
>Chipset lithography doesn't matter!
>Cray doesn't matter!
>Cisco doesn't matter!
>HPE doesn't matter!
>AZURE doesn't matter!
>5nm doesn't matter!
>TDP doens't matter!
>10nm doesn't always matter!
>Cache doesn't matter!
>Integrated graphics doesn't matter!
>PCI-Express 4.0 doesn't matter!
>Germany doesn't matter!
>Processors doesn't matter!
>Custom Foundry Business doesn't matter
>Framerate doesn't matter!
>Amazon sales don't matter!
>Prime95 AVX doesn't matter!

Sup team redpilled bros.
r8 my 2019 price:performance build.
v56 was 278 bongs.

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not a bad price for the GPU bro. did you get the free video games too? did the ASrock motherboard give you any problems?

again, most of us would be happy if we already had 5nm but that's not how capitalism/real world works. r&d is expensive and you have to build new fabs. lack of competition is also in the equation.

fuck I bought 2600X 2 weeks ago

Yep got the 3 free gaems. No issues with the mobo all worked as expected.

Now you can wait for the refined 4000 series next year instead, not a problem. Your mobo and everything is all compatible.

i'm getting an i9 9900k, fuck it.
paired with 2 yes 2 fucking in sli 1050tis because thats what makes games go wooosh fps fps fps

good to see asrock is still doing pretty good then. I have an asrock mobo for i7 4790k and haven't had any problems either

try playing Division 2 or Anthem on a quad core, it's a stutterfest

Wait for benchmarks.
CAS speed isn't as much a problem on second gen Ryzen as it was on first gen, so maybe it won'tmatter at all with Zen2.

2600x can probably handle gaming on ultra for at the very least 2 years from now, wouldn't start worrying about that until 4000 series.

>Still running an i5 4690k
Wonder how much life this has left in it.

4 cores are already obsolete. Even 6 thread CPUs have horrendous stuttering in new games.

Why would i want to play either of those games?

You're going to get forced into Windows 10 by 2021, and everything will be relying on "MOAR CORS" and hyperthreading than raw processing speed.

It runs everything I throw at it fine enough for me.

>12 cores
>24 threads
>5.0 GHZ
>assuming the same high IPC as the other ryzen's
>370 bucks

goddamn. hope you're buying amd stock boys.

That's not how it works. You'll always have some tasks that are either difficult or just plain can't be split up between cores, so IPC is always going to be relevant.

Getting an RTX 2060 coming in tommorow. Lets see if any of the Zen 2 CPUs beat intels i9-9980xe, if it doesn't then I'll just go for intel.

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that's really your only needed benchmark imho. I personally think your situation would need an upgrade in the next 1-2 years before it gets really bad, but then again what if no good games are released in that time frame?

>People eating up every shitty fake leak
Like potery.

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Same. Only game it struggles in is bf1 64 player matches but in most other games it's enough to allow for high refresh rate gaming with my 1070.

>8GB to 6GB VRAM
nice downgrade

except its an upgrade since it uses GDDR6, more bandwith and memory speed

>calling for AMDs lies

The r9 390 and 390x cannot utilize the full 8gb vram available to them because the GPU simply isn t powerful enough to crunch that much data. Research has actually been done on this and clearly shows that. The only reason AMD released it with 8gb was so they can justify rebranding the 290 and 290x and charging $130 more for the rebrand. Going from 4gb to 8gb doesn't cost $130.

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Falling*

never heard of this before, is there a sauce for that?

>food analogy
as expected from a Nvitard

plz sir buy radeon VII. 16gb > 11gb > 8gb>6gb. Facts are its GPU most powerful and proof for the future.

>As for the 4GB R9 290 vs. 8GB R9 390 comparison, there was nothing to see here. Most games didn’t consume more than 4GBs of VRAM, but there were cases such as in Assassin's Creed Syndicate where with almost 5GBs of memory usage, there was still not a single frame difference. Moreover, in this Assassin's Creed Syndicate example the 290 and 390 were good for just 26fps on average, so clearly the quality settings will need to be reduced for achieving playable performance and consequently memory use will drop.

>The 390 and 390X are really graphics cards we never wanted. At the time of their release the Radeon R9 290 and 290X were exceptional buys. The 290X cost just $330, while today the 390X costs around $100 more for no additional performance and it is no different with the 290 and 390.

>We see plenty of gamers claiming that the 390 and 390X are excellent buys due to their 8GB frame buffer ensuring that they are "future proofed," and well, that simply isn’t the case, as neither GPU has the horsepower to efficiently crunch that much data. Perhaps the only valid argument here is that the larger frame buffer could support Crossfire better, but we haven’t seen any concrete evidence of this yet.

techspot.com/amp/review/1114-vram-comparison-test/page5.html

>amdshills are colonizing Yea Forums now
Last time I posted about how great a purchase my 9900k was I got some incredible seethe, will it happen again I wonder?

it probably won't because your house and pc are going to burn down before you can make that thread

there's no actual benchmarks or even data there, at face value that's just conjecture. is there a source with actual testing?

Are you blind or just pretending?

Yeah, the part that never reaches above 50c in use or 70c in synthetics is definitely some cause for alarm! I guess comfy comes at a price. If only I had gone with the budget option and opted into a terrible user experience instead.

>cores don't matter in gaming

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>AMD is base-

OH NONONO

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>70c in synthetics is okay for incels
OH NONONONONONONONO

You want more than 4gb of vram these days.

Gonna uprade from 1700 to 3700X. Buying a new mobo and RAM while I'm at it. And also throw in a new M.2 SSD to boot. It's gonna be nice and fast.

>Are you going to upgrade?
Maybe. I built a Ryzen computer last July and Zen 2 will be compatible with last gen Zen mobos. I think the 2700x will serve me well for a long time, so maybe I'll wait til the Zen 2+
Either way, I'm not going back to Intel while AMD is on a hot streak

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>most of the posts are "X build for my wifey"
Building your wife's pc with AMD is like buying her a cubic zirconia wedding ring.

I have an FX-6100, so I'll now have my eye on that 3300

If your card isn't capable of playing at 2160p or even 1440p you won't use more than 4GB of VRAM, just because game alocates memory it doesn't mean it needs as much.

It depends solely on your GPU. The facts show you'd (generally) run out of actual GPU horsepower before running out of vram. That's why vram capacity increases as the GPU core count increases because as the GPU becomes more capable it can utilize more VRAM.
As for games claiming to need x amount of VRAM for certain texture qualities, that's not entirely true and for example In RE2make the highest quality textures which require 6gb/8gb are identical to the texture setting for people with 4gb or less vram. The game just caches more textures in memory with the higher settings. Same goes for the battlefield games where low/ultra textures are identical (you can even test it for yourself).

>yfw 8c/16t will be corelet status in a few months
F TO DAB ON INTELS GRAVE

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just went from a 6300 to a 2600 and it was a nice change. I'll probably go 3000 series if the price is right and sell my old cpu and mobo for a fraction of a loss.

Theoretically what would a 3300g or a 3600g be able to run? Would it finally be near 1080p 30-40fps on low settings for most AAA titles?

it sounds like the whole 1060 3gb vs 1060 6gb argument all over again. Having a low amount of vram doesn't make any difference until it does, and then you get an annoying stutter you have to deal with.

1060 3GB has also less cuda cores than 6GB version 1152 vs 1280 so even if you weren't limited by VRAM you will still get less performance on 3GB version.

1. 99% of games anyone can play from modern to old classics won't have any problems with excessive VRAM requirements/utilization

2. The 1060 3gb is a bad example because it's literally just a cut down 1060 6gb that wasn't even originally planned just to fill in at that $200 spot

3. The 1060 3gb and R9 Fury series are the only recent examples of GPU with shit VRAM capacity that could have used more or shouldn't have even been released

Ignoring the half assed/rushed releases, the average consumer isn't going to have any problems with VRAM utilization in games assuming they know the limits of their card. If they're using a 1050 ti and trying to run games at 4k with performance in the single digits and VRAM maxing out then maybe they should try console gaming if it's that hard for them to be logical about their settings.

It really does suck there is no $300 1070 anymore, 8GB should be the standard after $250

Got to wait for Navi 10 for a affordable mid range GPU with enough VRAM, RX 590 is crap & Nvidia is overpriced

Better tell developers about it because, right now, vidya is using at best 6-8 threads somewhat equally and 2 barely and the rest is just sitting at idle.

>going for AMD in the current year EVER
Well you'll be missing out on all those CUDA software while AMD has nothing to compete with in return.

>Are you going to upgrade?
Definitely. I'm on an FX-4130 cpu and that one's definitely starting to show its age at this point. Even 60 fps is out of reach in most modern games and you get annoying stutter. I'll probably get one of the 3300s, unless they're complete trash for some reason.

>literally just built a 2400G build last week
goddamnit

it will be near rx560 and gtx1050 level of performance. expect stable 30fps 1080p medium setting in most 2018 games but don't expect good performance in demanding titles like ass creed and you'll need much better gpu for 2019 titles. if poor better save your money for ps5.

Nothing AMD can do will change the market unless Nvidia literally goes bankrupt. It's got to the point that even hard-core AMD fans are getting fed up of constant mediocre releases by AMD and even the general consumer has completely abandoned them. Unlike Intel, Nvidia actually stays ahead of the game and they don't only have the hardware but also the software and devs in their pocket so Nvidia plays best. Even if I want change in the GPU market I'm not a charity so I'm not going to give my money to AMD out of sorrow if I don't feel it's better than the Nvidia alternate. AMD should just leave the market all together now that Intel is entering the gaming GPU market. It's holding back their CPU division too.

shill

Telling the facts and reality of the market is shilling? Sounds like you're the shill for not accepting it.