You will never reach City of Tears for the first time ever again

Jokes on you, my family has a history of amnesia and dementia! I'll be playing Hollow Knight fresh every day in the retirement home in fifty years!

>completely different
no, they barely have any differences

Its obviously not, shitposter, there's no bench present.

The feminists will have banned videogames in 10 years

Or Mantis Village. Or fall into Deepnest for the first time. And many more.
I still remember the feeling of wonder when I started the game and entered the Crossroads; I wasn't expecting the game would end up being so huge.

I don't recall Quill being a complete idiot talking in funny english and only managing to do stuff because you help him. Is quill Siegward only because he helps you during a bossfight?
And I ask this as someone who is quite annoyed by the Souls influences and references they put in Hollow Knight, I just don't see this one.

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>last thread had some nice game design talk at the end
Ok, people criticizing the lack of unoriginality in the upgrades, or the low number of movement skills is probably one of the most common (legit even) complains I see from time to time.
But doesn't the game already offers all it can without jeopardizing how challenging its platforming can get?
I ask you, what movement ability would you add?
No seriously, what more can there be?

It has all the aerial directions filled, one infinite vertical climb, one infinite horizontal launch that flies... what more does it need?
I'm genuinely curious.

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Same!!! We'll have a blast, user!!

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I'm thirsty, thirsty for memes, post em if you got em.

A guy i watched on youtube put it best i think
It doesnt add much NEW things, it's just "biggerer and betterer" examples of metroidvania staples.

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Ceiling "walk", as many hugs can do

Since it's OP, make it only possible on certain surfaces

Oops, sorry. My mistake XD Maybe this is where you meet totally not Gavlan? Or is this right after you leave the totally not Lecture Building? Hard to say.

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I think momentum based swings would be interesting but not really needed. Or animation cancelling would be interesting too for combat.

I love that video because it shows how all the people saying “durr hurr Metroid did this” are correct but also retarded

JAJAJAJA

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I know, I'm not one of those brainlets who think "not doing something original = bad execution". I'm just asking for examples out of curiosity of what people come up with.
This one could be interesting, I even think it would be compatible with the platforming challenges already in the game with a bit tweaking.

Man you must be having a very boring Sunday

At some point we need to realize where to draw the line between innovation and gimmicks.

>thirsty for memes
Jap fanartists always manage to make me smile.

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>I think momentum based swings
I'm not sure what do you mean with this, like the dash slash?

Actually I have never played hallow so I will

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>implying youll have the reflexes to reach city of tears in the first place when you're old

I think he means like swinging from a rope

I'm confident that at 80 I'll still be better than most people on Yea Forums, since I cleared the pantheon.

It all sounds so stupid, holy shit. This may be the one exception where I'm inclined to say
>Learn English and enjoy it in the original language

Give the Knight a throwable that can be aimed up, down or facing forward. The throwable travel far and ignores walls/environment completely. When the throwable reaches your desired location, you press a button to activate it and the Knight will revert to a Shade and teleport there instantly. Makes scaling large rooms super easy since you just BAMF your way through them, still doesn't make you invincible since you're wide open as the object is traveling to its destination, has no combat potential so it cant cheese the Trials or Pantheon, and using it in the Path of Pain would be tantamount so suicide.

Deepnest was the perfect excuse for an upgrade like that. But now I feel there's high chances we get something similar in Silksong.

Oh, wow. They literally just google translated the words.

Caballero hueco y su increíble odisea al huevo negro, para en vez de convertirse en vasija derrotar al Destello

>DEFENSOR BLANCO
Never fails to crack a smile.

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>Or fall into Deepnest for the first time
>Tfw you unlock the tram and think you're finally getting out, just to get into another completely unknown place.
>Tfw you actually find your way back to somewhere you know.

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"Señor """"desleal"""" or the fact they translated vessel as "vasija" makes it very obvious, doesn't it?
Spanish is my first tongue and reading some of those titles is really jarring.

The rest of the game is ok (not something localized or well-thought, but it's still somewhat decent), but some bosses' names just sound too weird. Guerrero del alma just sounds like bullshit, because del alma is something you say when talking about something you cherish. It should be de alma instead

who fucking draws rain like this?

>that lack of motivation because Monday morning is looming
Sunday is fucking garbage and always will be

fucken saved

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so, easy mode basically

>You will never reach The Gilded City for the first time ever again

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I played this game when it came out but couldn't get into it because it had really shitty level design and felt like some 9 year olds newgrounds flash game. Perhaps this was just because I skimmed through the levels and didn't play it properly. To those of you who enjoyed how did you approach exploration?

>thirsty for memes

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We all will join him one day.

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That's a weird fucker.

I wanna bury my head in Lace's butt poof and die there.

BUT MOOOOM
The game doesn't tell me where to gooooo

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>Hornet shouts and screams during Silk Song

I don't know how it will be possible to play with only one hand, lads...

youtube.com/watch?v=pFAknD_9U7c

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Quirrel isn't based on Siegward, if anything he's based on Solaire.

>I played this game when it came out but couldn't get into it because it had really shitty level design
just say you were not good.

Just check Silksong's trailer.

New Soul meter looks soulless

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It's silk wound up on a spool

>You will get to explore Silksong for the first time

Feels good man

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Mylar is best bug

>It's silk wound up on a spool
neat
now it's better

I still prefer HK ui so far

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it took me longer than I'd like to admit to understand what happened here

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NENDOROID FUCKING WHEEEEEEN???????

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you guys are starting to feel more and more like the undertale fabanse with each thread

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all me btw

But Yea Forums, you always say this to every fanbase.

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>fragile strength
>fighting a difficult boss
>when I'm 1 frame away from death I can just quit game
lmao nice design

Hallownest in one picture

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just upgrade it. you're not poor, are you?

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honestly the protagonist would be one of the few characters that would look decent as a funko pop. he already has a giant square-ish head and soulless eyes

can't yet

this is sick

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I'm stuck there

Some user in previous thread said that once Quirrel takes of his mask he starts aging rapidly. Is this true? Because I don't remember it. I only played vanilla

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The moment where you walk out into the rain and the music comes in full force was fucking beautiful. Legit almost teared up.

what a dumb slut

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>I only played vanilla
That is part of vanilla.
>his voice suddenly gets weaker and old
>his dialogue implies it

Would play

Toys soon

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eh, opal

I took it more as, the mask made his memory come back which made him feel his age more.

>Be on your journey then, and allow me rest a time. With the deed complete, I begin to feel my age.
>To live an age, yet remember so little... Perhaps I should be thankful? All tragedy erased. I see only wonders...

>Shishkabob

What

Siegward himself is a rip-off of Siegmeyer, and Quirrel is closest to Solaire.
The Hollow Knight = Artorias (they even both fight with only one arm)
City of Tears = Anor Londo
Motives of light being a symbol of submission to superior forces and darkness a "humane" force akin to critical thinking that shall triumph over light
Wait a second I thought I would be able to find way more thematic and narrative similarities to Dark Souls, I guess the game isn't such a rip-off after all

Bretta is fat.

>darkness a "humane" force akin to critical thinking
>no mind to think
Based retard.

Prefer Hollow Knight's world desu

I'll feel bad about killing all these cool warrior types in Silksong. At least most of Hallownest was populated by undead plague husks.

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She's a good egg.

I'm sure they'll deserve it.

>I'll feel bad about killing all these cool warrior types in Silksong
Hornet clearly won't.

The coolest and nicest ones will probably survive their duels, like Ogrim did.

Unless the characters are especially evil and/or tragic.

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I'm just glad I got to experience the game in the first place.

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They'll probably be responsible of the ruin of the spider tribe or something like that, so fuck them.

That has to be machine translated, there's no way someone got paid for this shit

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I'm fine with experiencing it once. I hope that a similar experience is in silksong.

underrated

I'm getting raped by Soul Master

mainly because I can't see the whole arena during the fight and sometimes he attacks me from where I can't see him

apparently the guy is illiterate and couldn't spell kebab.

>german humour

>start a new game
>trying to do minor ass sequence breaking
>rush ahead through mantis village without going to the city of tears
>whoop mantis lords blindfolded
>blaze through deepnest to get tram pass
>get to ancient basin
>need crystal heart to get monarch wing because you're shit at pogoing
>end up going through city of tears backwards and fucked myself into going the long way and doing that dumb platforming challenge

i tried lads

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?

I dropped this game after 2 hours.

Dumb, cute bug princess.

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>fucked myself into going the long way and doing that dumb platforming challenge
????
Also, doing the city backwards is nice.

>>rush ahead through mantis village without going to the city of tears
I did this too... you DO need mantis claw for city of tears

you need the mantis claw for soul sanctum more than the city of tears

>you need the mantis claw for soul sanctum more than the city of tears
you literally cannot open the bridge without platforming with mantis claw

i think he means once you’re inside. you also need the seal from false knight to open the city gate so if you decide to skip him you HAVE to do deepnest->basin->reverse city route.

or just back track and kill the maggot

>i think he means once you’re inside.
you still need the walljump just to get to the sanctum.
I'm literally fighting Soul Master now, I now you need it.

>you also need the seal from false knight to open the city gate so if you decide to skip him you HAVE to do deepnest->basin->reverse city route.
so, without even getting the shooting spell?
how?
you can't even open greenpath without it

I'm about 36 hours in my first play through. Getting bored I think ive discovered every area now I'm just backtracking so far haven't found anything interesting. 5/10 average game.

So how critical is it to play this game? I have a huge backlog and try not to buy any new games, but I hear this is a masterpiece

>but I hear this is a masterpiece
it is but it can be pretty unforgiving
play it if you can spend sessions of at least one hour on it.

Soul Master is a non-threat, dash under his energy balls and stay close to the middle of the arena and you'll be fine

I think I'll make a detour to get howling wraiths to be honest

>you still need the walljump just to get to the sanctum
i wasnt disputing that, the rest of city of tears can be done handily without ever using wall jumps what with all the elevators all over the place

>so, without even getting the shooting spell?how?
after the first time the maggot’s head is exposed for damaging, he does the chimpout animation where rocks fall from the ceiling. if you look to the left side the wall right above the gate gains a crack that you can bust, leaving you free to gain the snail’s spell without killing false knight

That sounds a little generic don't you think?

Took me 40 hours to get to like 106% and I completely agreee with you. It's slightly above average at best. But people will call you a liar and shitter for daring to disagree with the hive.

do not open it

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What will his first words be in Silksong Yea Forums?

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We won't see the Hollow Knight in Silksong

>What will his first words be in Silksong Yea Forums?
Silk song is a prequel

>equip quick slash
>equip strength charm
>equip charm that gives more iframes after taking damage
>stand still next to boss spamming attack
>beat almost everything
VERY good and well-balanced game

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Pick it back up

>getting hit
pussy lmao
is stalwart shell really that good?

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Lol these could all be captions of muttposts

city of tears is shit

hollow knight is shit

kingdom hearts does everything it does and more

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>equips late game items
Durr unbalanced game!

>late game
what? I haven't even been to any of the 3 dreamers yet. Am I at endgame already or something?

Everybody makes it sound so hard but its really not. Most enemies die in 3 hits the ones that dont, have like 1 easy to dodge attack. Bosses are easy as well. You never have to worry about losing your geo because of rancid eggs. I remeber walking around with like 10000 geo early on because there was nothing else to buy so I didnt care if I lost it. That's just bad game design.

Pros are music characters and map design. I'd be lyin if I said I don't enjoy the exploration but once that thrill is gone the game just dies.

You can explore everything without dealing with the dreamers. All the dreamers lock is the temple.

>I really enjoy this character and I wanna go through his shenanigans again
>tfw it's my second run and I want the other achievement
God dammit, I'll see you next time you glorious cunt.

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>Bosses are easy as well

That changed with Godmaster. Dramatically.

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I never understood how the Mighty Zote happened to get there

If we aren't going to see him in the sequel why even bother making an ending showing us he's alive?

>enemies and bosses can literally read your controller inputs
>instant startup 1 frame attacks that can stun and then combo you
>their entire body is a hitbox, even when theyre not moving or stunned themselves
>random spawn spells and traps that can literally spawn where youre standing
>unneccesary and annoying boss runs that last way too long
How is this not shit design?
I like the game overall but fuck me is the combat the worst part about it. The games visuals and charm are the only thing carrying it for me at the moment

Hornet's grown up you idiot. If it's a prequel she'd still be a baby.

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Cursed image posting?

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I actually like revisiting, the first playthrough there was very frustrating trying to find the right path

I don't believe it's a prequel either, but it could take place literally days before HK

No fucking way Silksong is happening in "a few days" it's a full blown sequel, why do autists fight this so much?

Guys, do you think he's ok?

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Why does he attack you? D-does he have dreamnail diologue? Because I killed him first encounter.

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>Why does he attack you?
He doesn't unless you attack him or bump into him though.

>...She is calling... Home so close...

>You will never reach City of Tears at all

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On my first playthrough and I just feel really confused and there's so much backtracking.

I've gotten the deep dive and found the dreamers and think I should hit up Crystal Peak, but I also have parts of Deepnest to explore. I've also beaten Dung Defended in that waterway level. When does Fog Canyon become accessible?

>When does Fog Canyon become accessible
Depends on which upgrade you open it up.
It could be 2 areas later, or endgame depending on your path.
Don't worry too much about it, it'll become clear sooner or later, it's not an optional area either way.

I just finished White Palace and completed the Kingsoul.

I've gotten the normal ending and explored pretty much everything but there are still two simple locks I can't open. I wonder where the keys could be? Seems like I should've found them by now.

Ok, wait a fucking second.
I never got the chance to observe one of these cunts calmly before.

He's literally leaking unending leaves, what the hell?
And I also found a lore tablets that implies the mosskin came from the dream realm. Plus they have a resemblance with moths.
Are these guys actually more "special" than what they seem?
Is this what discovering lore feels like?

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Just got the first ending, Hornet 2, almost have Grimm down and cleared the arena. What direction should I be aiming at? Little lost

Which ones? I won't spoiler, just curious.

One is in Dirtmouth and the other is in the Royal Sewers.

The Mosskin were created by Unn, the giant slug that gives you the shape of Unn charm. Unn does seem to be connected to dreams in some way.
Tablet in Greenpath:
>The Green Children walked from the dream unto these lands.
Godseeker:
>Sleeping God, to see thee as thou once existed, with land and dream and devotion, We would give our mind…

>just got the first ending
That doesn't give enough info about where exactly you are right now.
After Hornet 2 did you use the mark of the king somewhere?
Also, did you find the two parts of the white charm?

Nope and nope. Not sure where to use it because of all the loose ends I have. Literally just left Hornet 2 (which was surprisingly baby for the hype. My summons kept the webs to a minimum)

I'm pretty sure you've missed two normal keys.
3 are easy to find (one you don't even need to), but the fourth one was added in one of the DLCs to cover a new keyhole and a lot of people miss that secret room.

TO THE ABYSS WITH YE

....which is where?

Alright, some tips, minor spoilers.
You need to do 2 things now and both are on the lowest part of the world.
One is to just go to the door you can find there, on literally the lowest point down under.
The other is to get enough essence by beating dream warriors so the Seer gives you the super dream nail, which can open that one old white armor that there's around that area too.
And remember, once you get the 2 white parts together, go back to your birthplace. You'll understand where that is in a few moments.

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Where an abyss should be. At the bottom. The bottomist bottom.

Yeah I know I've missed them but I've explored pretty much everything and haven't came across them. I might just look up the locations of the keys because searching through every corner of the map would be tedious at this point since I've been been traveling around it for many hours now.

Minor spoiler my ass

You're literally asking where to go, all I gave you was directions.
I didn't tell you anything about what you'll find, but whatever.

Also, while I was at it, took the chance to make this for the quirrelfags.
Enjoy cunts.

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Thanks user.

Lovely.

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What non-magic reliant build do you guys recommend to fight NKG? This is my current one.

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>because of all the loose ends I have
Why'd you come asking instead of just go exploring those loose ends?
It's not like the order you clear them matters, you always find something the way this game is designed.

This old one is bit low quality, will have to make another when I get the chance in this run.

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Chances to attack are fleeting. I'd focus on raw damage rather than fast attacking, and typically I didn't have trouble with reach.

I know you said a non-magic reliant build but I heartily recommend magic damage boost for his fire pillars attack, since abyss shriek does a silly amount of damage if it hits with all frames.

I'd recommend to drop the healing. At this point in the game you should learn to beat bosses only by dodging. Healing in bossfights gives you really bad habits, because it enables mistakes and makes you learn slower.
Also, you're lacking Fragile Strenght somehow.

Oh hey thanks. Wasn't trying to make a request but I appreciate it.

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Dont you need grimmchild equipped?

A cheesebuild involving sharp shadow and defenders crest is viable, since at that point all you have to focus on is dodging, but it's slow and not really fun.
Use nail arts.
Get fragile strength.

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FUCK FINALLY I BEAT THIS SON OF A BITCH

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Congratulations, you're now ready for the next challenges!
thou cringer

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I can't into magic to save my life. Everything I beat up until now was with nail only.

>Dont you need grimmchild equipped?
Only in the first fight.
Do I really need fragile strength? Is it that good?

I'm using the same build I was using against dream Zote. I used the healing because 3 masks of damage was extremely unforgiving.

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Mine is Fragile Strength, Mark of Pride, Quick Focus, Grubsong and Thorns.

I don't think it'd fit this Game but the next one should let us pick up dead enemies and fling them Yoshi's Island style and pressing a button before they touch anything makes hornet web them up to the background creating a temporary platform

What next challenge? The nightmare king is fucking dead

Lol

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ill never reach it in the first place because this game is boring

Sometimes, I just have to admit when I'm beaten and move on with my life.

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>Is it good.
It's +50% nail damage, what do you think?
I specifically go out of my way for it on steel soul runs.

Oh my sweet summer child, the king is dead but your nightmare is only beginning.
Find the junkyard and begin your ascension.

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Trust me on this user. Do the hall of gods. Radiant as many bosses as you can, then do the pantheons. Your skill level will astound you, I promise

I personally couldn't feel the excitement in the game as much as you people did.
I kept expecting it to be better but it's just not clicking with me.

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>Mawlek Incubador
>Falso Caballero
>Señores Mantis
>Vasija Pura
What the hell Spaniards?

Anybody notice PV has no walking animation? He gets around by teleporting and attacking

that giant robot ant it cool as shit

You overestimate me. I'll give it a proper shot someday, but I haven't even beaten Nightmare King Grimm yet.

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name a cuter enemy in hollow knight than the mosscreep

it's the shrumelings

Kingdom Hearts? really? i mean i would expect Symphony of the night, Super Meteroid, Dark Souls, hell even Cuphead, but of all the games you could chose you chose Kingdom Hearts? unless this is a shitpost you may actually be retarded.

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Hey, don't lump this shit on me.

it's not whether you defeat the dreamers or not it's the completion percent you have on the corner of the file on the file select screen

Aspids. Baby aspids are adorable, and Yea Forums just loves primal aspids, you know?

there is none

primal aspids actually are cute, but they just suck due to existing.

hivelings are s-tier cute

>"Gentlemen:"
>*audience is alert*
>"Dark Souls..."
>*crowd murmurs to each other, shifting into a pregnant pause across the room*
>"...with gay bugs"
>*Crowd erupts into uproarious cheers, drowning out all other noise. Balloons and ticker tape descend from the ceiling. Multiple champagne corks are popped*

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Can't be Dark Souls. The sequel actually looks good.

nice

>completion percent you have on the corner of the file on the file select screen
????

This game good? I might look into it, but I'm also contemplating playing dmc for the first time

That's normal though.
You need to have the worst case of absolute shit taste to not like bugs, they're cool as fuck.

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Some bugs are cool, but some are nasty ass shits

Look at the size of that thing. That's a big boy. Definitely a boss.

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Gross. Bet it would eat you if given the chance

Beetles are herbivores, you fucknut. They cant even bite

Spiders are based, prove me wrong
also your spider webm has a bunch of babies on it's back, took me a sec to realize.

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>prove me wrong
But you aren't?

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Really? You had a decent set up, but kingdom hearts? You really need to work on your bait game. If this wasn't bait, and I really hope it is, please grab the nearest brick and attempt to give yourself a concussion. It might just be the boost in IQ you desperately need.

Which boss almost filtered you, user?

Unironically, final form Prince Zote.

Same

Vanilla Radiance

lmao nigga just use spell build

>Vanilla Radiance
nigga just use the whaling spirits

>have to keep quitting and reloading my save because the big bees in the Hive destroying platforms makes me literally unable to progress
fantastic game design you got there

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fuck that's badass

that's not true
posts like this this are the ones that made me realize that people complaining about this game are complete scrubs who got baited by the art of the game

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so what happens if you use the dream gate holding the delicate flower?

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I'll play devil's advocate here and say that most are actually fine.
Hollow Knight's base game has an alright translation. It's for the most part correct, just nothing to write home about. But it's very clear that the expansions' translations were done by someone else who rushed the job.

I'll explain some of the questionable ones:

>Falso caballero
Not exactly bad, but "Caballero falso" sounds more natural.

>Protectora Hornet
>Centinela Hornet
First of the terrible expansion translations (remember her fights are only named in Godhome). Like Falso caballero, just swap the words: Hornet Protectora and Hornet Centinela.

>Señor desleal
Desleal means disloyal. It doesn't convey the meaning of "traitor". It should be "Señor de los traidores", "Señor traidor", "Soberano traidor" or something along those lines.

>Maestro de pinturas Sheo
Sounds awkward. No one says "pinturas" when talking about paintings. Perhaps a more "poetic" choice would be "Maestro del óleo Sheo".

>Vasija pura
No excuse here. This is just plain wrong, especially when Vessel is consistently translates as Receptáculo in the base game. So, "Receptáculo puro".
The other words for vessel in Spanish don't sound poetic or good enough. Vasija, recipiente, huésped, etc. in this context.

>Destello
Pretty bad too. Destello makes you think of a ephemeral light, literally a flash.
Resplandor or Fulgor would be miles better, especially the former.

In any case, Hollow Knight was localized through the Steam Translation Server, and that usually means bad news. No professionals (usually), no pay. Just a glorified fantranslation.

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It breaks.

Destroys it

Figured that was the case, but curious nonetheless. Thanks

Mane fuck y'all, I know to do that, I suck at dodging shit

>try to get extra soul off of remaining uumuu jellyfish after he's dead
>deal 4 damage to myself
>die to hornet 2 for the first time in my entire life

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So is all the new content out now? It's free right? The game should have auto-updated if I have it on steam? I don't want to start a fresh run of the game to find I'm missing the DLC.

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Can someone post the portuguese version?

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=k7nFTD1w5g4

Traitor Lord

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You can change the language in-game and check yourself, but here it is.
I haven't done everything yet on PC so Pure Vessel and Radiance ain't there.

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Thank you, I didn't reach the DLC content yet.

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How can one bug be such a bro post source

My Portuguese is a bit rusty (and it's Portugal Portuguese, not Brazilian) but those sound fine, don't they? The same choices as Spanish, but with less or no mistakes or inconsistencies.
There's simply not much more you can do with those names without going the Woolsey route.

>(C94) [Metamor (Ryo)] Dosukebe Elf no Ishukan Nikki 5 [English] [constantly]
It's a weird one.

Yes, those names are all correct.

Yeah, definitely. Receptáculo Quebrado, Mestre das Almas e Rei do Pesadelo sound really good in portuguese.

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is there another word for lord besides “señor”? it feels so wrong saying it. they could have used another title of nobility perhaps

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>it's a "the only way to dodge Zote's bombs is to go where you can't see what he's doing" episode
FUCK ZOTE AND FUCK HIS BULLSHIT

>Chaotic Neutral

I know foreign people are used to hearing "señor" as "mister" and it sounds comical to them, but it is also a very common word used for "lord", "master", and even simply "man". It denotes politeness, respect, prestige, etc.

There are no other ways to translate Lord without implying something (like "amo", which implies ownership, as in the person saying it is a slave or the minion of an evil overlord).
Sometimes, you don't translate Lord, but this is only done for actual titles, usually of English noblemen. Also used often in fantasy settings, but only before an actual name (Lord Lucifer, Lord Godfrey, whatever, but never with a mere noun like "Lord traidor").

How did the devs show off a teaser trailer that looked so finished yet still not have an actual release date?

Does that mean the trailer only showed off barely an eighth of the new game or something? Shit's insane if that's the case.

>fighting zote
>run to the other side of the room because frogs and bombs everywhere
>notice that he has been gone for too long, but it's too late, his ass is already on my face

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>people have emotions over this game

Why? I mean the game is good but I got to this area and it still seems really dull environment/story wise.

Aussie magic.

Why don't you just come up with a new word that fills in the gap?

desu I love City of Tears but entering the Greenpath felt a little cooler to me. Not to mention the fucking killer background music.

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good at what, having fun? I didn't die or anything the whole world was just really boring and there was just bland rooms with no landmarks. I didn't get very far however and deviated from paths a lot which is why I ask how people who enjoyed it played it.

I assumed that all of the fights in the Pantheon were on Radiant difficulty I'm on the Knight's now. These guys aren't even on Ascended. When everyone goes FUCK MARKOTH, is that because they're trying to Radiant him, or is he even stronger in the PoH?

Greenpath is my favorite too. It's like a huge breath of fresh air after the crossroads in more ways than one.
youtu.be/ABXga9y0B3I

honk honk

Men of taste

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Both. Radiant is suffering, and he used to be a huge bitch in PoH because of his unfortunate positioning in the roster, softening you up for daddy Zote and Grimm. However his PoH incarnation has since been nerfed.

That's a good idea