I can't stop playing this game holy shit!

I can't stop playing this game holy shit!

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Now just imagine how excited you'll be when you actually play something good!

Kys this is one of the games of the decade

Fuck off, retard. It's trash and so are you for shilling this garbage indieshit here.

>Shilling
I have an actual job thank you

Not him, but the game is "alright" and nothing more. Map system is garbage and the game overall is very repetitive
The only people that enjoy it are incels that like that female bug thats in the game. I quit playing 5 hours in because it's just not very fun (pic to prove I own it)

Graphics and music are good though

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You're just a contrarian because the game succeeded and is now the king of metroidvanias.

Wrong picture

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I found it fun to play but the backtracking was a real chore, playing through it blind. Needed more/better shortcuts. Fast travel between benches after you discovered them would've been perfect

Don't give those losers any (You)s buddy. Best to ignore them completely everytime a HK thread is up and they'll stop eventually.

Best metroidvania since SOTN btw

>I don't have 10 compasses and 45 quest markers in front of me every second!!!

Ok kid

>Best metroidvania since SOTN btw

Lol
Ori is better

Ori was great. However it didn't have such a fine battle system

The game suffers from lackluster power-ups and terrible level design. Overall, it is decent enough though. It's an objective 6.8/10.

Fuck off kid
>Muh fast travel

Casual 2000s and 2010s games ruined a generation

>The game suffers from lackluster power-ups

You can shoot
You can wall jump
You can double jump
You can literally fucking fly
You can power dive
You cAn dash and shadow dash

Not even mentioning all the charms
WTF nigga

The game has a shit ton of powerups, offensive abilities and extremely well thought out level design that considers every movement option as they become available. What the fuck are you smoking?
>It's an objective 6.8/10.
You're objectively retarded.

>indieshit

If it doesn't have Sony/Nintendo on the cover it is bad!!!

> I quit playing 5 hours in because it's just not very fun

Guarantee this casual couldn't beat Mantis Lords.

>extremely well thought out level design
Unnecessarily long hallways, boring as fuck traversal, a severe lack of smart short cuts between different areas that open up as you progress, retardedly placed teleport points...

Play more games, and you'll realize why HK is so disappointing to most fans of the genre.

>you'll realize why HK is so disappointing to most fans of the genre.
I have heard the exact opposite from "most fans". Speak for yourself, you fucking moron.

> TFW took me 8 hours to reach the mantis Lords
Such is the life of a scrub
I never played platformers growing up

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>Ori
*yaawn*

I'll defintely get Ori 2 simply because of the strength of the prequel. Can't say the same about HK2.

>too brainlet to explore without an auto-map and dozens of markers
>quits on the first area
>"hurr is too repetitive"
>that horrible catalog
2/10

STOP IT
ALREADY FUCKING STOP IT DICKSUCKING SHILLS

EVERY MOTHERFUCKING DAY YOU SHILL THIS PIECE OF SHIT GAME. NO, IT'S NOT FUCKING GOOD IT'S ONLY PRETENTIOUS AUSSIE SHIT.

>a severe lack of smart short cuts
Why do people on Yea Forums like to talk about games they haven't even played?

a cunny in time is better

unironically this, its getting tiresome

user, please, calm down. I just like a video game.

The sad part is that I actually fell for the shilling. At least, I've learned from the experience and have become much more wary of clear cases of shilling on Yea Forums.

7 bucks right now on psn

Did you play the game? Be honest. I've seen a bunch of people talking about the game and making points that are straight up lies.

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It's shit nigger LOL

I'm ashamed to admit it but I actually forced myself to beat the game instead of dropping it for something more deserving of my time.

I definitely did, 4 hours wasted on nothing along with my money.

Sure thing, that's why you're complaining about the lack of shortcuts on a game known for putting them everywhere. Please, you're transparent.

I fell for it like user did too. Never ever again with this game

Any short cuts whatsoever isn't the same as smart ones, doofus.

Got tricked by shill threads to pirate it. Got bored after a few hours, when i got the weapon power up, but the enemies upped their damage sponges higher than the damage output increase from the nail in the next areas. In dark souls I'd have new weapons and combat styles by now already to try and have fun with. This is just boring. Next please.

This game is alright, but its kinda sad that many many years later with better and better tech we still cant top the metroidvanias of old.

Ori is just too damn easy. I feel like I can beat it with my eyes closed. Still good though.

But the game did design its backtracking organically, putting shortcuts where they're most needed, and leaving the fast travel for central points. Keep lying.

whatever you guys say. i like it and if shilling means talking about it in a vydia thread, so be it
this board is full of smash and pokemon garbage, i don't see why someone would get mad at this game in specific

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Real talk though if you want another indie metroidvania to try give Valdis Story a shot. Its similarly a combat focused one.

This shill was in the other threads too. Fucking bullshit. The DEVS HIRED A MARKETING COMPANY TO SHILL Yea Forums

Hat kid shits all over your bony ass!

Can't you retards go shit up an e-celeb thread or something instead?
It'd be more your liking.

>I can stop playing it, I love it!!!
>Buy HK!
>Why haven't you played the best GOTY ever???
>HK is the best metroidvania ever created!!

Damn wankers drop that shit already, how much they pay to shill this game?

The game is both

>indie
>popular

And it's not

>anime
>off topic
>/vp/ related

So Yea Forums will literally shit and piss its pants in rage at it.

Then stop spamming this game like anyone cared about it. It's too fucking slow to be enjoyable and the shill posts are always the same

Ori felt like a platformer, not a Metroidvania.

I don't get you. All I see people talking and discussing a game they liked. But I guess the shitters at Yea Forums would find a way to get angry about that.

Why aren't you back in the DMC threads tearing your hair out over there?

>and terrible level design.

>I keep getting lost cause I cant buy maps and I'm a retarded zoomer with no spatial awareness

then fuck off to a thread you actually like, idiot

>NOOOO REEEE STOP TALKING ABOUT GAMES

bet you faggots are assblasted shills too whose game flopped lmao

You realise that the more you spam and bitch the more people will cheerfully keep posting just to spite you?

>if I didn't enjoy it nobody did!!
>everyone who likes it is just a shill!!!
People like you should just drop dead from osteosarcoma.

How the fuck do I beat Sly?

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Look at this ultra coping when hollow shills got called out bwahahahahahaha

Hit and run is the only thing that works with him.
You can reliably get 2 hits when he lands from one of his combos.

>bwahahahahahaha

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I still don't fucking understand if the bugs are sapient beyond hallownest or not. The game gives contradictory info.

Why are you in this board if you don't like people talking about games?

>le reply to everyone look XD

Jesus, the shilling is real

your game is shit

what did u do wrong to still have to shill this game everyday

>mad that he got btfo in the previous thread

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Keep coping.

Shameful samefagging
>this is a shill's desperate move

>doesn't even have the balls to quote everyone
pathetic

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>1 minute exactly apart
>w-w-w-w-why you don't quote everyone!

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SOUL WARRIOR.

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>"I like game"
>SHILL SHILL SHILL FUCKING SHIIIIILLL
Is this the worst meme to ever infect Yea Forums?

Bros I hope mods don't start deleting these threads....

Off topic will always be worse. Front page is full of them.

ok libttard, u got owned in one of those?.

>it's actually an off-topic politic faggot
I don't even know if this post is ironic, but it would explain the seething against people liking a video game.

Wtf happened to my thread guys(((

Do I have to do Parthenon of Hallownest in 1 sitting?

surplus to requirements

Yes, no mid checkpoints.

Sorry, video game threads are not Yea Forums.

Fight me in KI, nigger

Yes. There are rest spots like in the other pantheons, so you could theoretically stop playing but leave the game running.

i can't do radiant AR

help me, Yea Forums

So much for getting that ending then. Cheers.

Today I tried to unlock AR so I could practice her, but I died to NKG.

It's not fucking fair bros.

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>i can't do radiant AR
>help me, Yea Forums
Hit her
Don't get hit

Autism that can't differentiate when an epic snarky post is appropriate and when it isn't

I can only play it in 1 hour bursts because otherwise I am getting kinda bored but it's still good

Equip Shaman Stone. Quick Slash is better than Strength in my experience because with it you can hit her twice every time you jump.

In the first phase, hit her with your nail until she starts summoning spikes from the ground. Then hit her with abyss shrieks until she gets to the point where there's two small sets of spikes she spams spears from the sky. At this point, hit her with her nail again until she goes down.

For the multi-platform phase, stay near the middle and pray. Remember you can use Diving Dark to avoid the lightbeam and other attacks when shade dashing is not an option.

For her third phase, double jump so the orbs fly under you and up into the sky. If you don't get enough height on one of your double jumps, pogo off the Radiance.

>HURRR DURRR SHILLS SHILLS
>a game made by 3 people
Yea Forums is so childish nowdays, just because you don't like something doesn't mean the rest of the world doesn't either. funny how all the posts are similar with each other, i wonder if it's just one autist sperging out.

>he didnt even make it to greenpath
jesus christ the casual filter managed to get you well before you even hit it. How'd you manage that?

I decided to replay the game recently due to the announcement of the DLC. Figured I'd try to challenge myself and tackle the mantis lords with an unupgraded nail. I know it's not a huge challenge, but I managed to pull it off. I'm confident about the rest of the game now.

It's going to be a full sequel game

>4 hours
lol, what a failure you are.

I never played nor cared about smash at all but the constant multiple threads and seeing the rabid fanbase being incredibly autistic (grinch leak shitstorm, steve etc.) and catapulting shit against each other over durr he's in disgusts me

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>make game thread
>durr shill
If anything, you fuckers who keeps spamming "s-stop shilling! ree" are the ones who keeps bumping the thread, so... good job?
Because as far as i've seen, all HK threads have been pretty moderately slow

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>DLC

Its not DLC anymore, its a full on sequel now.

Why is greenpath the casual filter? I think I just got done with it, wasn't too bad

Why were there no ranged weapons like bows in all of Hollownest? They're like the key thing for civilizations
>inb4 lol magic
Not all bugs can automatically use magic
>inb4 dense cave
Hollownest caverns are massive and no way at all compact and cramped like real caves, and placement wouldn't be at shitty dense areas anyway
>inb4 throwing weapons
Those are throwing weapons you dumb idiots, not ranged weapons at all, Braavas would have been much better designed with a bayonetted Crossbow instead of a gajillion lances.

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>Why is greenpath the casual filter? I think I just got done with it, wasn't too bad
Hornet is the first boss you can't just spam attack to win

Many enemies spit shit
That must count

I can't stop fapping to Hornet holy shit!

only after they're infected though

That's infection mutation. Also not really ranged weapon.

Most logical explanation is that many bugs have hard shells so only melee is viable

>Why were there no ranged weapons like bows
I don't know, but I like it.

>i cant stop playing!
>making thread on Yea Forums
sure sure

>I can't stop fapping to Hornet holy shit!

There's like 5 pictures in whole internet
Must be repetitive

Hope I'm not too late. I just started playing over a week ago and I'm approaching 112% completion pretty soon, just a few things left to clean up. My biggest challenge currently is the 5th pantheon, I'm getting destroyed. How do I make it as easy as possible?

I just started a new game. Holy shit, why are the atmosphere and the soundtrack so great and the controls so tight? Is this the true power of Australia?

I callout this by saying bows, specificslly longbows and crossbows can pierce bone and plated metal, so shell wouldn't really stand a chance.

>hurrr durrr bows
you don't understand that this game is about bugs? They're not using swords, they're using nails for fucks sake, trying to make a bow the size of a bug means the arrow would have to weight even less than a feather and travel as fast as a normal arrow, that's just not possible, fuck off with this piece of shit argument already.

You live your whole life running away from huge spiders, you can make great bug games

Most bugs dont have anything more than simple survival instincts.
Most of the hallownest bugs did not have individuality before the pale king came along and were little more than slaves to the radiance.
Kingdoms are separated by wastelands filled with feral bugs, and if a hallownest native left unprotected then they inevitably regressed.
You see this play out in deepnest, herrah wanted a child that wasnt mindless but with the beast king dead there was none but the pale king who would suffice.

Wait you get to fight Sly?

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Do you not underdtand the arrow would be their size thus be at a usable weight? How about you Fuck off with you're brainlet thinking.

Spoiler but yeah, the end of the third pantheon.

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>Wait you get to fight Sly?
Shit nigga leave the thread, you'll get lots of spoiler you will regret

Why do you post this every thread?

You don't know physics, son

I honestly wish Soul Sanctum was a bit longer. Makes sense design wise since it was just an offshoot lab in the city, but I would be lying if I say I ain't a sucker for abandoned laboratory-esque levels in games.

Ever since Bloodborne and Yahar'gul I've been a sucker for locations that involves wide scale experiments that went horribly wrong.

>like a low budget indie title that's cheap as fuck and better than 99% of AAA garbage out there
>get called a shill because Yea Forumsshitters are garbage at games that aren't meme royale

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Don't be shocked now, but the average gamer is shit and Yea Forums is filled with average people. Of course they get assblasted and sour, when they can't enjoy even 1/10th of the game. So they make up lies and try to troll, in which they also fail, since they don't know anything about the game.

Phil Fish SEETHING

Him and the other nailmasters.

Do YOU not understand that as soon as you try to shoot a weightless arrow it will desintegrate due to its velocity while traveling the wind? If you're going to call someone brainlet look yourself in the mirror before embarrassing yourself like that.

You laugh, but that's literally the same principle as Miyamoto making Zelda inspired by his "adventures" as a child.

>the arrow would be their size thus be at a usable weight
Lol, not with the drag of a normal air resistance.

Due to pale king fuckery they skip the early game and go straight to medieval / low industrial.
That and their reliance on natural weaponry probably made things like bows less important in their minds.

>Map system is garbage
why do you feel the need to post this in every thread? i refuse to believe so many people dont know how to use a map

Bug warriors sound pretty based to me so far.

explain magic using real-life physics please

stop posting about bows every thread you autist
there are many games with bows in them, this does not need to be one of them

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There is a generation posting on Yea Forums for whom the Skyrim compass is the normal state of things

>i refuse to believe so many people dont know how to use a map
There's an entire generation of people who have grown pampered by pre-completed minimaps with a directional arrow and goal markers.
It's sad, but you can believe it. A lot of people have never been asked to find the way/path by themselves.

How would it be weightless if it's designed like a normal arrow being tipped eith iron but instead of feathers it's silk or something. By you're brainlet logic they shouldn't be able to smelt metal either because their small forge would never heat up properly to melt iron.

So what was the kingdom pre-Hallownest?
Is it the Radiance's?

Not him, but not knowing where the hell you are when exploring new areas or having to equip a thing to see where you are at all can be pretty annoying at times.

What was the first game to use markers like that?

>explain this fictional thing in real life
i didn't even bring magic to the topic like that "hurrr inb4" faggot did to shield himself.

Explain civilizations needing bows in fantasy logic please

This and that are different.
In any setting, magic should have its own consistent physics (magic A is magic A), but a normal material arrow will still be under the effects of normal air-drag physics unless the atmosphere in said setting is specified to be different.
You could make the argument for magic-enhanced bows and arrows, but if you can do that might as well go all the way with actual magic projectiles, which several enemies do in the game.

The "Battle of the Blackwyrm" is mentioned by dung boi.
Now think about how big wyrms are, and that this nigga helped fight it.

>Not him, but not knowing where the hell you are when exploring new areas or having to equip a thing to see where you are at all can be pretty annoying at times.

God forbid you have to struggle!

>MOooooOOOooMmmm my video game makes me actually have to THINK where I am instead of just mashing buttons to win!!!! MOOOOOOMMMMM!!

>he doesn't know

Getting food easy and very good protection from enemies and predators seems really important for civilization to start my dude.

I finished the game, it's not a deal breaker, but it's definitely annoying and unnecessary.

I'm more interested about the fact the name of that battle seems to imply there were an evil wyrm during the Hallownest age that opposed the King.
If a good wyrm was able to singlehandedly raise the bugs from being mindless beasts and a few scattered tribes to a first-world tier kingdom, imagine what an evil one would've done if they lost that battle.

Moths, the Hive, Deepnest, Mantis, Mushroom folk.

>the absolute state of nu/v/

None of you were born before 1996

>the game is perfect. PERFECT I SAY! HOW DARE YOU!!!
How about you stop being a little bitch instead?

HK threads on Yea Forums are usally comfy, but this one is something else. Shitposters who never played the game or fags who played it for an hour without seeing anything more than forgotten crossroads and complaining about the dumbest insignificant shit. Everytime they try to argue anything it is clear they haven't played the game. Why is that?

>having to equip a thing to see where you are
You don't need to equip the compass though.

1993 here

I think it's fine, it makes you use your memorization skills. Which is something some people nowadays sorely need improving upon.

>I finished the game, it's not a deal breaker, but it's definitely annoying and unnecessary.

Playing games IS unnecessary.

Doesn't seem like it was necessary for Hallownest to start

Don't forget the mosskin.
Arguably, it's probable there were more tribes PK assimilated on his kingdom, we just hear about a few ones.

Reminder not to reply to maze or any of his unfunny bandwagoners. The ones moaning about shills are them, they've been doing this for a while in HK threads.

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Having a simple map (and not using compass) is a good way to memorize locations and paths/shortcuts.

I'd lie if I said I didn't need help sometimes but damn, it's a good feeling when after a bit you can traverse the world map just by memory.

it's one of those games that requires thinking and that offends the average Yea Forumstard

Bait him into his three hit combo, then great slash him when he comes down from the spin.
You can get hits on him at other times, but it's really not worth it.

So is Hornet going to be Superman at the end of her game like the Knight was or will she be prep time Batman

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Not really, they did a good job with the level design, so it's pretty easy to find your way around, you only need the map when you want to look for something, and then it's when not being able to know where you are at a glance becomes inconvenient.

Really made me think!

We saw her using "gadgets" in the trailer, it's pretty clear imo.

She'll be dead

You don't 'need' the map at all actually, if you just remember where you're going and how each room connects.

>mfw deepnest niggers tried to fuck with the chad mantises

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based dd poster

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Mantis Lords are easy though.

Actually struggling against Traitor Lord.
I love the game but i don't think the port on ps4 was too good. Been playing on both pc and ps4 and it really lost some fluidity and was a bit laggy. Couldn't be as fast and precise as on pc, but i guess it adds some challenge.

>DD posters without loli companions/MC
Weird.

I can't believe this game was made by 3 people. Really makes me think when AAA devs with hundred man teams shit out turds with 1000x the funding

cope

Is there a more disgustingly overshilled ""indie"" game than this? How many tens of millions of dollars do you need OP?

I can't see Gossamer storm being her only magic

I went into the game as a total scrub, and I actually enjoyed Hornet. What almost made me quit the game in frustration was the Soul Master, who IMO is the first hard boss of the game (also, the path to the boss fight is a pain in the ass).
Took me a couple of hours to beat him, but I'm glad I didn't drop the game there. Recently finished it with 88% completion after 40 hours, and I'm already super hyped for Silksong.

fpbp

Are you using the ds4 with Bluetooth on PC?

Alright, anons, let's see how good your imagination is.
So far, the weapons we've seen in the bug world are:
>nails
>nail-lances (Mantis Lords)
>clubs/sticks (Cloth)
>claws (sturdy fool, winged fool)
>big claws / scythe claws (Galien)
>pins (hive knight)
>needles (Hornet)
They all keep consistent with a tiny size theme (at least name-wise).
What other weapons and weapon names do you think could fit in the HK setting?

Personally, I'm thinking of "leaf" for either a broadsword or a partisan/spontoon.

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Needs some kind of two sided battleaxe.

dual wield staples

Swords could just be razors, like the small razor blades on a modern shaving razor.

What type of weapon could the name "thorn" be applied to?

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Screws

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>two sided battleaxe
What name could this have?
>Swords could just be razors
Nails already have the role of swords though.

>he didn't make a Super Rook pawn

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Okay, so THIS is the guy ya'll keep talking about. Fuck me.

They could be the 'katana' of the nail world.

Feels good to be able to navigate deepnest without opening the map.

Forgot pic.

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Ah, I see now what you mean.

Splinters for wooden spears and javelins

Whip

>soul master.
It's funny how most people remember him being hard, yet completely body him on replaythroughs due to more experience with the game.

He seems pretty telegraphic in his moves from what I saw on YouTube

Most kino boss in any video game i've ever played.
He's 100% pattern recognition and reaction, treat it as a dance with him leading your moves.

I feel like prickles would be more appropriate for a whip.
>tfw you get to be obnoxious about plant part names

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>mumumumumumumum
>meaty thwack
>whoooooooooosh crack crack

what boss am I

>He's 100% pattern recognition and reaction, treat it as a dance with him leading your moves.

All of them are

Yeah, I fought him 4 times and managed to hit him twice. This is gonna take some time.

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I fucking love how when you're experienced you can hit him as he dives

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I thought that the game was fine for what I played it for. But I dropped it when I died in an awkward spot that didnt let me reach my corpse ghost anymore. So I would was forced to beat the rest of the game with death penalties permanently on. I didnt have patience for that.

Marmu

Prickles sounds like the character name that would use a thorn/thorns.

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There's a person at the edge of town that'll summon your shade to you in exchange for rancid eggs. You need a simple key to open the door, though.

OH IT'S TIME

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You can use a rancid egg and just buy your shade back you fucking retard

Doesn't seem doable without quick slash

You can summon your ghost with rancid eggs later on
Also when you die again or quit to menu you start fresh (and poor)

What? If you die again your shadow will appear in the last place it happened. Also, there is a NPC for this exact purpose of retrieving hard-to-reach shades.

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>If you die again your shadow will appear in the last place it happened
Maybe the game bugged and put his shade on an unreachable point.
That would honestly suck.

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Nice. Gonna try and report back. Thanks.

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I know right. I'm on my 2nd Steel Soul run, And am trying to all bindings the 5th pantheon. It's Marmu, Collector, and Zote that are the fucking worst. I've all but mastered Markoth, Pure Vessel and NKGrimm. And I already play AR careful enough that all bindings entail is making the fight 5x longer. Not being able to one shot Collector's and Zote's spawners and not being able to abyss shreik spam Marmu is what kills me the most.

AAAHHHHHHHHH GIVE ME SILKSONG ALREADY YOU AUSSIE CUNTS

WHY DO YOU DINGO FUCKIN BASTARDS HAVE TO RELEASE A TRAILER THAT LOOKS SO COMPLETE YET IT'S OBVIOUSLY BARELY A FOURH OF THE GAME

I actually didnt know that, it does make sense that there would be such a person, I just didnt want to look anything up.
Fuck you too retard
This, my shade was over an acid pool that I just couldnt reach at that point of the game.

they don't like the pressure of release dates but clearly have no issue with instigating a hype cycle

You can taunt it by getting close and let it come at you

Even before wall jump I could always reach mine by jump + dash to at least provoke it and let it come at me

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If you die a second time, your shade will spawn at the new location, replacing the impossible to reach one. Think of it like bloodstains from the Souls game. You'll lose your geo, but you can die and replace hard to reach shades whereever.

>fire pillars
It's more optimal to go the right of the first fire pillar, shadow dash through it, let the 2nd and 3rd fire as you walk left jump and hit his right side right before the 4th fires, hit him from under as it does then immediately Abyss Shreik

Alright. I tried again and I can dodge most of his abilities, but this one is harder to react. His wind up animations are kinda similar.

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Or, you know, just spend a rancid egg on Jiji

>want to talk about game
>Thread just divulges into "you're a shill" "no I'm not" repeatedly

God Yea Forums is just utter shit no wonder Devs would rather go to 4*2 chan

>Dude just wait to be 9 hours into the game lmao

Another advice, try to always be in the center of the room, otherwise you might have trouble evading some attacks.

I didnt know you can even taunt. I actually dont remember if I had dash yet, it was so early in the game.
Alright, I thought ther shade basically became a permanent enemy that hangs in the area then, and that the soul/spirit sphere just kept getting more cracked if you made more shades.

Seems like I could have reached it after all, thats sort of a bummer, knowing how I quit the game after that.

If he appears on the ground, then he's either going to launch sprites or swipe at you. Just run away from him in either case -- if it turns out to be sprites, you can turn around. There's no harm in initially reacting the same way, aside from maybe losing out on a hit.

but user i'm pretty sure you can see your shade in the map

I do this on Soul Master but find better success pogo clipping his side mid descent when ST comes around

>start a second run
The hell, was the nail always this slow?
I think I got to used to the Quick Slash...

>game is widely recognized as good
>Yea Forums contrarian shitters deflect with S-SHILL
Pottery

It's probably the best metroidvania in the last10 years.

What you'll notice in all of those .gifs is they all start the same way, with you walking backwards. If you learn to walk backwards the second he appears on screen, you'll have already avoided that attack instinctively every time.

>tfw path of pain took me well over 3 hours
>look it up on youtube later and watch some guy do it flawlessly in less than 4 minutes

n-not that bad for a first try, right?

Other bosses have RNG elements, attacks that fire instantly or have shit like just walking into you.
All of Grimm's are clearly telegraphed and follow a steady rhythm.
With a lot of other bosses you can get lucky/unlucky or face tank / back off and heal.
With Grimm it's just a constant state of attacking and dodging with maybe one heal oppotunity if you're able to bait his fire.

Hand up in his face = About to claw upslash.
If he's spawned on the floor and immediately hopped backwards = bats.
Spawned up in the air = start moving immediately, react appropriately whether pillars or firekick.

By 'taunt' he means getting aggro by getting near enough to it.
Even if you take an acid hit it will still be aggro, so you could have jumped in the acid and then killed it.
Dont feel too bad though, if you played it long enough ago then there are multiple updates for you to play through if you if pick it up again.

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Got it. Here we go.

>bought the game on sale for pennies
>notice the game has a 0.4% platinum rate
this can't be that hard, I'm an hour or two in and haven't died yet

I'm trying to all bindings (eventually) the 5th pantheon and I've sworn off the Quick Slash completely in preparation for it. Gives you BAD fucking habits man. I have my trophy 112% Steel Soul file now so now my goal is to get Weathered Mask in Land of Storms with it.

lmao it took me 8 hours

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>maybe one heal oppotunity if you're able to bait his fire.

You can heal at least 4 different ways:

When he starts his bat attack, jump over the first lower bat and heal, the second lower bat will fly over you.

When he does his flame pillar attack, heal just as you've moved out of range of the last pillar.

When he does his ground spikes, you can take a second to heal

When he takes enough damage to spilt into multiple bats, then you can heal.

He's probably the fairest boss in the game.

>Map system is garbage and the game overall is very repetitive
Map is fine. It gives you the option to have a GPS or if you want to explore.
I have no idea what you compare to when you say it is repetitive.

Found some fan art for the bow fag.

Remember this moment.

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Oh you poor sweet child

I must say really hate how you have to waste 15 minutes going through the entire pantheons just to reach the only challenging fight in them.

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While I like Ori, Hollow Knight mechanically has the edge.

>Man looks down from the top of Empire State Building, considers it not too high to jump off

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They aren't even comparable. One is a 3D platformer and the other a 2D.

The designs for this game lend itself really good for fanwork.

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>you're part of the 9.6% and didn't even know it
oh nononononono

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Wait until you need to waste an hour going through the entire of Pantheon 5 just to reach the Zote, NKG, PV and AR bumfuck end.

It's really cool that the shade gets stronger as you do, sharing health upgrades and spells. Does it behave differently depending on locations or something else? I was killed by that passive moss knight looking out at the lake, and my shade just floated above him looking off across the lake as well even when I got right next to it. After dying at the Soul Master fight the shade came after me aggressively from off the screen, is it just the Soul Sanctum area?

The shade stops being aggressive after you get the void soul

what did he do

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Sat in a room and stared at people with a telescope. Then he took a really powerful nap.

Perhaps he was the cheif of police?

The characters are really simple yet so easily recognisable even in weird situations.

Test of resolve is aptly named.
I havent got steel soul yet myself with +50 hours in, a factor is that i'm trying for speed run 2 at the same time, along with refusing to cheese it by quitting to menu.

It might react differently in different areas, i'm unsure.
The soul master thing might be because the fight triggers if you get too far into the arena, which would be a bit unfair if you wanted to do something else.

Watched, ran the city while the King did his thing.

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Playing with 40 charms equipped is pretty fun. I wish the game had a cheat menu that disabled saving and achievements so I didn't have to fuck around to get this to work

Now come join us in the 0.8% club

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Being this retarded

I completed the game and still know fuck all about the story. From what I can tell it's basically dark souls?

>he did it on a switch
Pro controller? Either way, good fuckin work, this game is better with a d-pad.
Source: I have the game on steam and switch

>30% of owners didn't even get a charm
>Almost 50% of owners never beat Hornet 1

Absolute Shitters

Reminder that Hornet is canonically weak and should not defeat the Shade Lord in Silksong, and as I am a drunk Australian shitposter I must repost the video I filmed for the gayanon who claimed I would not be able to radiant Hornet twice in a row. FUCK Hornet and FUCK Hornetfags, I don't even care how rent free they're living in my head if I can bully Hornetfags. Hornet a shit. She's not cute and if you wanna fug the bug you're fuggin' gay.
streamable.com/cvjew

I hate that this is now 0.8%.

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Yeah the pro-controller. I doubt there's someone walking this planet that could pull it off with the joy-cons.

Silksong trailer shows enemies using scissors

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I hope they make this game free on PSN or Xbox so it gets the recognition it deserves (devs get a ton of money for this too)

That sounds extremely silly.

Pic related is legitimate.

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... I did, although it was suffering.

Absolutely based

>I hate that this is now 0.8%.

Just think of how many people cheated their way through PoH with infinite masks. I don't think that 0.8% number is legit.

you don't mention him recruiting the Dreamers and fucking Hera in order to persuade her

Mostly. The only bug I remember the game confirming was fucked by the Pale King was Herrah.

Maaan I wish there was a 113% and beyond for:
>beating White Defender 5 times
>beating Zote 10 times
>bringing Delicate Flower to all recipients and Emilitia and White Lady not rejecting it
>selling Lemm all relics
>getting seal of binding
>getting weathered mask
>radianting the Hall of Gods
>beating 5th pantheon
>all bindingsing the pantheons

This.

It's bagffling to me that the teaser looked as if it was a finished game but knowing how big HK is, we've probably just been given a small lick of the massive iceberg of a world they have in store. How the fuck can three fucking devs shit out this much content?

True, someone should probably come up with a better summary.

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SOON

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how good did he smash that could forgive all her children being pawns or is White Lady just a big picture kinda gal

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Reminder that Hornet is a demigod who was also trained by the weavers and judging by the new game the weavers are a pretty big deal. Not to mention that they specifically added the delicate flower to show that something can counteract the void that hard meaning Hornet will get lategame augmented weaponry involving flower buffs.

How is it cheating if trinkets allow you to do it? It's not like it's against any rules

They said they could have an enemy fully designed, animated and ready to go in just 40 minutes with how they operate. A boss only takes them a couple of hours. They're wizards.

You too bug, you too

>female protag
>uses a needly instead of a nail
>faggy ballerina dress
>uses flower powers

GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY

based

The artist is a real madman. I guess that's where actual years of experience, talent, and having fun making shit gets you.

>I hate that this is now 0.8%.
That's silly. More people enjoying the same game you enjoy, to its fullest possible extent? What's to hate?

I'm sure some people cheated it but it wouldn't have been everyone or even most.

When they're finished with Silksong I want to see them actually try a shorter game to see how ham they can go with a more detailed artstyle.

What's this mask cheat?

On the one hand, hot wyrm dick.
On the other, they were basically in a "We have to do this or everyone is going to fucking die" situation.
I mean, everyone did anyway, but they couldn't just sit back and do nothing.
She's also horny.
REALLY horny.
To the point she tied herself up and secluded herself in the deepest parts of her personal gardens with a personal bodyguard to stop herself fucking everything.
This last part is literal canon.

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alt+f4 for cheat menu

There's a trainer/cheat engine for the PC version of HK. You can give yourself whatever you want.

dude fuck off and go back to playing fortnite or some shit
trash like you are the faggots that complain about the tutorial of cuphead being too hard

it's a poncho

>There's a trainer/cheat engine for the PC version of HK. You can give yourself whatever you want.
Gross

Mark my words, the ending of the first game will be left unsaid and there will be no mention of the Shade Lord

ori was dogshit
get your autism checked out brah

No need, just synergize hp trinkets

>Mark my words, the ending of the first game will be left unsaid and there will be no mention of the Shade Lord

Silk song is actually a prequel

It's between the Pale King having fucked off and our dude the "Ghost" appearing in the world

pretty sure this faggot didn't even get past hornet

Giving Godseeker the pale flower was the canon ending. Shade Lord got dealt with.

No, the final boss will be (You) from the first game for maximum emotional impact.

I'm betting my sister's anal virginity that Silksoul Mode will be the followup for Godmaster.

>No, the final boss will be (You) from the first game for maximum emotional impact.

Literally Pokemon silver

You know what I like to do? Blast enemies with Crystal Hearts thrust burn

also dark souls 3

I don't play bad games

Hornet a cute.

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>the final boss uses all the charms from the first game
>spell build
>nail arts
>facetank
>defensive
>full minion build with an even stronger Grimmchild
>second phase plays the classic menu theme and the last fight is with a normal knight set in a voidinfested Greenpath

I'm ready for Soul of Hollow.

Man, Grimmchild charm sucks.

>>full minion build with an even stronger Grimmchild

>Grimmchild already matured into Grimm, you're essentially fighting Grimm and Pure Vessel at the same time.

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>silk song actually starts in dream world
>First time you die you wake up in real world game
>Autists Who are 2gud never find out until YouTube

Would you like it?

>Boss fight.
>Bench in the background.
>Fight involves multiple phases.
>First phase is charmless.
>Second phase he puts on a selection of charms (Displayed as icons above his head)
>[Multiple phases with different builds later]
>Final phase he overcharms every build used at once and takes double damage.
>Include a rare chance of a joke where he equips the wrong charm (Such as the map charm) and changes his mind.

>Not a 'Teenage' Grimm that's only slightly taller than hornet.

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Possibly, or they were smarter than I was and just dropped the game when they noticed that it wasn't all that it was hyped up to be.

that autism lord who was always banging on about how scissors should be a trick weapon in bloodborne is going to come to our threads soon

Why is Hornet so cute even though she's just a bug?

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Don't you guys think the default sound volume is too high? It drowns out the music in some cases.

nailsage sly is the dumbest fucking boss

Can someone link that korean animation about pale king? I lost the link

>Why is Hornet so cute even though she's just a bug?
Same reason of anime

Simplified features make you fill the rest with your imagination

>Don't you guys think the default sound volume is too high? It drowns out the music in some cases.

Yes I agree, but the music is good in most areas
I wish we had separate sliders

See

what

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Fun fact: I never checked and I'm away from the screen so I tricked you into checking for me

Thanks fag

that's a very low bar.

Not exactly, we've had multiple great metroidvanias for a while now.

>Map system is garbage
Is it a coincidence that low IQ posters have the shitty taste in videogames?
The map system is literally perfect if you like exploration.

name 5 from the last decade.

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We need one of these lists for all the different challenges in the game. People that gave up at Hornet, or White Palace, or Path of Pain, Trial Of The Fool, Steel Soul, Radiance, Nightmare King Grimm, Pantheon of Hallownest all the way up to Pantheon all Bindings.

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scratch that anons

somehow i beat nailsage sly with 1 mask of health remaining

NO MORE
ONWARDS TO THE NEXT HELL

Shantae and the Pirate's Curse, Ori, La Mulana 2, Hollow Knight, Dead Cells.

There should be a mechanism in game in which if you don't bow, every hit takes away 3 masks for being a rude cunt

God bless anime then.

The game already punishes you if you do that to Grimm by immediately triggering the bullet hell move.

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But the Traitor Lord is one of the easiest bosses in the entire game,
He has literally 3 attacks, 3, just jump over his ground sweep and dash under his jump attack.

Traitor lord can be a bitch, they did change him to be harder in a patch but that might have been after you played it last time.
You can void dash cheese him too.

I wouldn't really call it cheese. Traitor Lord is basically the shadow dash tutorial.

Eventually you’ll need to beat him and fight Hornet 2 directly afterwards with no time to heal. Good luck.

I meant damaging shadow dash cheese, not just dashing through him.

>End Yourself Tier
Hornet 1
>Pathetic Casual Tier
Watcher Knights, Traitor Lord, Hornet 2
>Pussy Tier
Hollow Knight
>Acceptable Tier
Radiance
>Brave Soldier Tier
Nightmare King Grimm
>Man of Reason Tier
FUCKING RADIANT MARKOTH AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

he was so shit that they made his attacks do 2 hearts of damage, that's literally it

he doesn't give you a chance to heal, that's about the only difficult mechanic.

I played him after they buffed him, so I don't know how he was from the game's initial release.

>>Man of Reason Tier
Absolute Bullshit

Come on, anyone?

>
>hey im just gonna spoil this shit for you right here and now

user you're actually retarded

>winnie the pooh's homerun bullshit
fuck outta here tolo

>Come on, anyone?
youtube.com/watch?v=BJWMAOqrbGs

Do I need a controller for this game?

>Do I need a controller for this game?
People beat it with keyboard
But I find it hard without using a dpad
maybe I'm not used to it that's all

>Hollow Knight threads used to be fun and comfy, with little shitposting
>Silksong get's announced, waifufags latch onto Hornet and spam lewds of a goddamn bug
>Threads get more frequent, shitposters scream shilling and shit game
I miss the early threads. Why is it so hard for people here to just enjoy a game for what it is and talk about it with other people?

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You're going to love it when all the Hornet porn spikes into ungodly amounts once Silksong comes out.

I rather have a bunch of HK threads with 500+ posts and occasional shitposts than 1 thread a day with 120 posts.

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Silksong will be the Resident Evil 2 of Hollow Knight. The sequel that almost completely replaces the first game in everyone’s hearts and minds. Loving the original HK will be seen as the contrarian opinion. The Knight will get cucked out of his own series.

Tips for HK? Im having trouble finding times to heal

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Boy do Collector and Zote become a hassle with all bindings. Not being able to one shot their minions is cancer. I've died more to these cunts than Pure Vessel and Markoth.

>1 weapon in the whole game
what were they thinking?

I think the mapmaker is the one that'll be lewded the most

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Don't get hit duderino

>Tips for HK? Im having trouble finding times to heal
You don't need to heal if you don't get hit

I hate to say it but Lace and Hornet yuri is going to be massive.

No ones likes sexy lesbians.

I don't like Lace's design. Something about it seems off.

Might be just some scroll keeper of some kind. I want Cornifer back just with Iselda tagging along this time. Cornifer being constantly impressed by her martial prowess would be freaking kino.
>"Corny keeps asking me to join him on his adventures and I've always declined. Maybe next time I should accept the offer?"
>next time
Too good to pass up, please deliver devs.

>Silksong will be the Resident Evil 2 of Hollow Knight. The sequel that almost completely replaces the first game in everyone’s hearts and minds. Loving the original HK will be seen as the contrarian opinion. The Knight will get cucked out of his own series.


>Protagonist is a woman
Lol no

PUFFY

>No ones likes sexy lesbians.
????????

>Hollow Knight threads used to be fun and comfy, with little shitposting
Wrong, first threads where 60% of poster screaming SHIIIIIIIIIIILLS. It got better after some months, but it didn't get the love it deserverd until it came out for Switch, and all butthurt nintetoddlers stopped shitposting.

>Silksong get's announced, waifufags latch onto Hornet and spam lewds of a goddamn bug
Lewds were a thing WAY before the new game was announced.

>Threads get more frequent, shitposters scream shilling and shit game
And the cycle continues.

If a woman can get the dick bug or not then it's a waste. Nothing crushes a man's heart more than a lesbian buttslut.

>Quirrel.
youtube.com/watch?v=VwnfDuA7O6E
I loved seeing him explore the world with you, total bro and i really digged the VA.

I also liked how he started aging rapidly once he broke monomon's spell, despite it being tragic.

>Cornifer and Iselda running around doing their thing.
>The scroll lady is someone completely different.

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I started playing this game on friday on my nintendo switch. Would think it wouldn't hold its weight on a big screen an its "emo metroid" I think its the perfect game for a handheld device. Being portable and avaliable on the move is perfect.

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Played it on a plane ride a while ago. Is it worth getting back into?

Its mediocre even for a metroidvania game

>metroidvania
Post invalidated

this, and i've played a shitload of those. The other one that stood out for me was Outland

Is Grimm a twink?

It having so much fun with my 2nd Godmaster playthrough guys, I beat the 5th pantheon then immediately dropped it for a few months last time. Silksong made me want to truly complete it. I have it all planned out.
>beat Pantheons 1-4 then play 5th until I unlock WNosk, SoB, and AR [Done]
>Attune the Hall of Gods [Done]
>beat Pantheon 5 once and get flowerless ending [Done]
>Ascend the Hall of Gods [as far as I got 1rst time]
>beat Pantheons 1-4 with all bindings
>Radiant the Hall of Gods
>Give Godseeker Delicate Flower and beat 5th with all bindings
Wish me luck lads

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Could be. He is a vampire bug in modern day.

Or equip shape of unn and heal during the flames

Can we please stop replying to baiting faggots? It will make threads 200% better

Theyre still amazing compared to soulsborne threads, they degenerate to unbearable if the games become more popular though.

as long as idiots are given money for sitting on their useless ass they keep buying shity games u know cus they are idiots (i am talking about niggers)

>hornet
>hard
Who the fuck are these people? I consider myself a shitter, but even I thought that hornet was relatively easy

I'm a shitter for real as in never played videogames that required effort

Took me like 20 tries
We exist

20 tries is not shitter tier, just normie, some people are even worse.

It took me 3 tries iirc. How do I rank?

All these cries of shilling.

Are you fucking kidding me? Yea Forums is the dumbest place to shill anything.

You could literally do piss all until another user posts a thread and then claim your wages.

>getting this mad over people discussing a game

Why did you even come into this thread? Why are you so angry? Is it autism?

Their world is primarily winding underground corridors, so bows have no practical application.

>giving a shit about a man’s heart
GAAAAAAAAAAAAY

i need Ultra Greatnail

Friendly reminder that mark of pride and quick slash are cheating tier

Real men use default (pure) nail

Quick Slash will instill bad habits for the eventual all bindings run besides.

>pure
Pot calling the kettle black.

Only 50% of the 2 million+ owners managed to beat Hornet 1

>mark of pride
But it would be an insult to the mantises not to wear it.
I don't want to offend the most based tribe...

>tfw winged nosk straight into sly
fuck

Same. But I got turned on to wide scale experiments gone horribly wrong by Phantasy star online episodes 1 & 2

Bullshit, there aren't that many journalists in this industry

>Feel good about beating Pantheon 5 after months of trying
>If I want to see the last ending, I have to beat it again after giving the Godseeker the Delicate Flower.

NOPE.

I just got to Grimm Troupe. Took me 3 times to beat Grimm, now I'm going off to find the rest of the fires to face Nightmare King. I love his design so much

Let me blow your mind
>charge nail
>he dives
>you jump...slowly move in his direction...double jump...dash slash.

*for winged nosk fyi

God I wish that were me
But like, unironically, genuinely wish
Like balls deep wish

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>loud as fuck "BAPANADA"
Jesus christ, my eardrums.

In all seriousness though, how come she's so sexy?

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>yfw a trooper such as exists
Feel inadequate

This is fibe
Shadelord is shit tier lore

The most forgotten of HK waifus

I'm only inadequate if I give up, user. Pic related is my motto

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Your mother was cold?

hhhhHHMMMMMMMMM

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Fuck
meant for

>>"Steady body" impacts your ability to pogo jump
>I wish someone would have told me sooner

Wtf is this user saying??

Died when I was 7

>tfw HK has a rare case of living weapon that nobody ever mentions
>cute as fuck too
We need more bug weapons in the next game.

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It's literally always the same one guy complaining about the map system, right?

>Fashion Knight
I need more

Steady body = Removes self-knockback when you hit things.
Pogo relies on said knockback.

Regular clothes look great on them.

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well, she already has a husband, so it's ok

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I bought this game because of Yea Forums
pretty good to be honest

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So you get less upward boost?

It doesn't impact your Ability to execute it?

Because she already has a husband you degenerate. You only get to lewd her if you self insert as Cornifer.

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That fucker has to have the most elusive dream nail dialog

I'm at my 3rd playthrough, it's really great because it actually gives you options.
I found a way to enter the eastern part of fog valley and queen's garden without having the acid-resistance ability (by doing a strange shinespark thing on a ledge that was right above a pool of acid), is it intended or did I exploit?

I'll give this game a second shot, but I recall getting quite bored with it after 5 or so hours. Mainly that exploring wasn't very interesting due to the environments being almost entirely the same shit with color variations.

At least you can get his by skipping the False Knight. There are dream nail dialogues programmed into the game you literally can't without cheats. The first few Quirrel ones for example.

Sleeping Gruz Mother, the knight at the lake, and the mace are probably the three dream nail dialogues practically no one will ever read in their first playthrough.

That's a common complaint until people reach the City of Tears.

youtube.com/watch?v=KkVwuWH-woA

Can't you get the dreamnail by just farming for the lantern immediately? No need for dash?

The game really isn't all that special. It's ok but no masterpiece that Yea Forums makes it out to be.

Correct, maybe, i never used steady body so i'm just assuming it almost entirely negates pogo ability.

>Mainly that exploring wasn't very interesting due to the environments being almost entirely the same shit with color variations.

youtube.com/watch?v=ezB-JCING18

You need either lamp or desolate dive to get dream nail.
You could hypothetically just farm geo till you get it, but it'd be tedious.

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I wonder who's behind this post

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I've just recently completed it myself, and i did it all with quick focus, deep focus, unbreakable strenght, grub song. Probably not the fastest sytongest build, but i feel like it s the safest if you wanna spam trough the easy bosses. If you have problrms with some particular bosses just train them in the hall kf gods till you feel confident enough, never give up but take breaks if you feel tired: i was reaching last floor consistently but after 10 hours i still died halway trough . Good luck user

yes
Yes
YES

I agree. It's decent enough but far from great. I hate how everyone will call you a shitposter for voicing this opinion.

Didn't that autist say HK was his goty 2017 though? If you want to pick an actual eceleb at least choose a non-meme one like fagthosis who disliked this game.

A big part of that is because it exceeded expectations. It was a kickstarter game made by two guys for 20k bucks and sold for 15 dollars, so personally I would expect maybe 10 hours of content for that price, but the base version of the game has like 40 hours of content, and you can easily double that if you count the free updates since then.

he kept oing on and on about the value of art. That was the only review of his that was thoroughly unwatchable

His video on Hollow Knight must be one of his worst ones
>"Well, when reviewing a game we need to review it both as ART and PRODUCT"
>As product is PERFECT because it costs little!
>BUUUT! As ART!...
What follow is an hour and a half ramble where he keeps going around this art vs product struggle that makes no sense. The rest is him justifying the fact that 90% of his love for the game was caused by him locking himself inside deepnest without a lamp is perfectly fair because it's a "critique" and not a "review".

how much have they made of it

>few
The first two are Black Egg and Lake Unn house right? Can't you simply
>avoid black egg>defeat hornet>go to sly>grind geo for lantern>crystal peak rush to resting grounds>dream nail>go to black egg and nail him
?
>Sleeping Gruz Mother
Holy shit that WOULD be an out-of-the-way goal huh? The path to resting grounds through Crystal peak by grinding for lantern is out of the question becasue she blocks Sly. You'd have to A. rush Deepnest for tram pass or B. rush Royal Waterways to then access right-side City to resting grounds elevator. Imagine a 113% dialog collection journal.

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How come when this game came out on PC, people kept shitting on these threads day in and out while I tried to tell people that it's great. Now that's it's on switch, people cream their pants over it. I've had friends who I felt like would love the game ignore it because it was on PC and ended up loving it on switch. It's such an odd feeling, this slight feeling of being irked because someone wouldn't follow your recommendation and then they would end up doing the recommendation through their own accord and precede to tell you how great the game was. Still overall happy that they're happy though. Thanks for reading the blog.

It sold at least a million copie so quite a lot I guess.

Mainly American site
America is mainly Nintendo

Sad truth

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Dude, It was literally game of the year material. It's actually a great game if we define that great by mass appeal. The fans say it, the critics say it, nearly everyone says it. That's why it's 10/10 on steam. It's not decent, it's actually great.

>that hornet
MY HEART AHHHHHHHHHH

that including Switch sales

>bullets
>punishing

The lifecyle of HK threads on Yea Forums was a wild one.

>release back in 2017 between nier, botw, and horizon
>game was fucking unoptimized as fuck back then with lots of drops, the game crashing at failed tramway, and the failed champion being absolutely horrible
>despite that Yea Forums actually started playing, liking, and eventually loving the game as they discovered how big it was
>shit got so bad that HK eventually got moved to /vg/ for a short time
>now begins the dark period
>that long moment after the /vg/ debacle where every thread got labelled as shilling
>day in and day out HK got reverse trolled and falseflagged to oblivion
>not even mentioning the autistic LM poster
>Hideen Dreams and Grimm Troupe where small pockets of great threads before devolving into clusterfucks again
>eventually it died down but not until.shit went critical mass as HK got a switch release
>eventually Godmaster came out as well and the game got popular enough in Yea Forums and the original HKfags went through enough shitposting that the threads can weather almost anything
>skip ahead with the silksong announcement and now HK is almost becoming a heavy staple

You like hornet, huh?

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Check the Dark Souls achievement rates sometime, it's hilarious. Only 50% of DS3 players made it to Abyss Watchers. Only 60% of DS1 players made it to Firelink for the first time.

B A S E D

is that Steam achievements? I'm pretty sure those also count people who just have the game in their library and never started it up?

that barely says anything then

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Ah, fine memories of shitposting galore.

All I know is that I'm playing it again now and I'm fucking loving it all over again. I've identified a few flaws and nitpicks and the charm system feels very slightly half baked (9/10s baked?) but it's still a goddamn wonder.

To be completly Honest with you all
I didnt even know Hollow Knight existed until it won and award on Yea Forumsga

Matosis had some weird complaints. He liked the bosses and the map system that most people generally complain about, but hated the size of the map and your traversal options.

There aren't many movement options missing from the game though. All I can think of is the endgame 'screw attack' type of power up that lets you traverse the map as an unkillable beast. Like the poison cloud of Symphony or being able to become a Bat in Aria of Sorrow. Maybe he would have been okay with you becoming an invincible shade that could float through the areas? As it stands pogo, double jumping, wall-jumping, dashing, desolate dive, crystal heart and shade cloak are a good amount of movement options. Especially when sharp shadow, dash/sprintmaster and some of the other charms can vary things up even more.

>Can somehow fight the pure vessel in Silksong.
>He keeps his armor.
>This is Phase two.

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I'd prefer Silksong open with Pure Vessel surprising Hornet in the Godmaster ending but being all peaceful and displaying a bit of his rudimentary personality.

It's been 2 years since HK?

What the fuck. It feels like it was just yesterday when we were all still arguing about whether it should be put in god-tier on the metroidvania chart we update.

I decided to check it out after hearing so much about it, but it doesn't look that good. Is there another version that isn't a side scroller, or something? why does it get so much praise?

Did you PLAY it?

>another version that isn't a side scroller
this is either a 15 year old or some higher being tier bait.

Glad to see the game's success. Hopefully, the devs can now hire someone for the sequel who knows how to do level design.

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>radiance delegated to waiting tables
kek, bitch

Platformer, maybe? i don't know the correct term. I watched about 30 mins of gameplay and didn't really see anything special. Given how people have talked about it, I was expecting to be wowed

Just taking the chance to say the space between Godmaster revitalization dying out around September and the Silksong trailer a few weeks ago was horrible.
Nothing but condensed shitposting and falseflagging for months.
Worst part is that it was almost always the same retarded non-arguments, like people crying about getting lost, or about not liking the color palette, etc. It was even common to find people making shit up that doesn't even happen in the game.

It's a shame; as someone who thinks the game is between an 8 or 9, I would love to discuss some of the flaws the game has and what ideas people would have to improve it. Like the fact that the reward-cycle of the money is broken, or the abuse of breakable walls, or the incomplete potential charm interactions have, or the Dreamers ending up as the equivalent of a door lever when they're the perfect excuse for unique challenges and events.
But these threads have endured through so much shitposting that people will instantly think I'm one of the ADHD retards who couldn't even get out of Crossroads.
It's pretty ironic when you think about it: the shitposters come constantly crying about the game being shit, but they're the main reason having an actual discussion about where/how it could be improved is an impossibility.

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>backhanded shitposting
please, just go stick a broom up your arse

>Like the fact that the reward-cycle of the money is broken
Explain

You brought up actually good points. Kuddos for having a solid frame of mind and not being just a shitposter. When it came to money, if you never lost your shade, you would end up with endless cash. There just wasn't enough shit to spend it on I felt. Guess why they added the cash dumps in the DLC.

Early on you must endlessly scrimp and save to buy shit because everything drops like five bucks. You finally start to get money in midgame and then immediately run out of shit to spend it on. They added the unbreakable charms because everyone ends up with 100k geo they can't spend, but that doesn't fix the underlying problem.

The only beef I had with the game was the bosses and how underutilized your full skillset was by the end of it. Thankfully Godmaster answered that in spades.

Oh also I fucking hated how just stepping into an area would light the entire part of that map up. That's probably the biggest flaw for me personally. I could also go on about the homoginization of areas to accomodate the "go anywhere" aspect of the game but I think the pros weigh enough to ignore the cons.

>Just taking the chance to say the space between Godmaster revitalization dying out around September and the Silksong trailer a few weeks ago was horrible.

Pantheon of Hallownest having an ending locked behind it just destroyed conversation until everyone either beat it or dropped it. Silksong just gives us something new to talk about rather than people crying nerfs versus people crying to Git Gud. Switch release to Godmaster release was prime HK discussion. The massive influx of new players drowning out the shitposters was refreshing. Suddenly you had people genuinely interested in the game. Then Godmaster came and brought with it some of the hardest challenges in vidya and burned people to the point that all discussion turned real sour.

>reached NKG in the PoH on my 3rd attempt
I am growing STRONGER

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If anything Yea Forums was literally the only place on the internet that had decent Godmaster discussion when it came out. Maybe the HK discord as well from what I heard but that place is infested with speedrunning autists anyway. You couldn't take one step into a forum without finding endless bitching from the casuals.

The fact that the money ending up being "useless" midgame was a common complain everywhere has a reason. A lot of people comment on the fact finding geos deposits is only exciting at the start of the game.

For the money the game has a very basic cycle system of reward-use-punishment.
>reward
Basically, the most common reward for exploration in the game is money (either raw or relics). That's just to be expected, you're not going to find the most important upgrades and charms everywhere. Plus the devs choose to not lock any main content or progress behind secrets, so all that there is behind breakable walls to find is optional.
Nothing wrong here.
>use
This is where the problems begin. As these posts say , you end up being loaded midgame because there's actually not that much to spend, or perhaps the prices are not properly balanced for the amount of cash you end up getting easy.
The fact that they added money drops in a DLC shows they didn't know what to do with the surplus.
>punishment
The corpse running system is meant to make you appreciate the money you find more, and specially find it rewarding whenever you find relics (safe money), elevating the other 2 aspects of the cycle.
The problem is that the shade is so unchallenging and it's so rare to actually lose your money, that it fails to make the other 2 points in the cycle important.

It seriously needs balancing, either by balancing the prices or buffing up the shade.
I remember losing 19k geo in my first run, and I didn't even care because I already knew it'd only take half an area to get loaded again.
Sorry for the wall of text, it's just that I personally think the way the money is balanced is the worst flaw the game has, and been thinking about how to fix it for some time.

>how underutilized your full skillset was by the end of it
Funny that you say that; this is actually part of my list that the shitposters shouting "shill" have made impossible to me for discuss.
God, I swear nobody in these threads hate those retards more than I.

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What is the problem in being "loaded" of cash if you bought everything already?
So what?
Why do you need constantly shit to buy, stupid consumerist pig

I think I heard one of the playtesters say it was a result of them working with only one difficulty. All those relics existed to soften the blow on shittier players who would constantly lose more geo on average. It was inelegant wchich was why at the very least they also made the relics like tiny lore rewards as well to at least make some players excited about shit that's more than just geo

do you have lists for all games?