Third party characters aka

is there a recent pacman game?

Everything after Ryu is shilling and semi niche. The rest are actually iconic and deserve to be in

I gotta say while Smash sucks, I appreciate how Nintendo made Ryu look Japanese for once

> Replace Richter with Alucard
> Add Sephiroth, Miku, Reimu, Tails, KOS-MOS, Jill & Amateratsu
There now it's perfect

Imagine being this mad over third party characters being treated better by nintendo than their actual devs?

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Simon > Mega Man > Sonic > Cloud > Snake > Richter > Bayonetta > Ryu > Pac-Man > Ken

This was my hype order. Please share yours. For reference there was never a third party I wasn't hyped for.

But snake is one of them, and his story ended in 2008.

Actually fucking stop it’s the same people shilling their shitty choices.

>Nintendo gave more love to MGS / Castlevania than Konami in a long time
It fucking hurts

I'm so glad faggots like these aren't in charge of the roster

Pac-Man > Mega Man > Snake > Eveyone else

>free

Mario isn't a third party, and you could probably argue the same for Bayonetta, since she's effectively Nintendo-only at this point. Snake really isn't advertising anything at this point in time with his series in limbo at the moment after the complete disaster that was MGS:Survive. Cloud in Smash Bros. won't do much to advertise the FF7 remake since it's still several years away at this point. Also what is Pac-Man advertising? Finally, all the advertising in the world isn't going to be able to revive Street Fighter 5.

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>Pac-man that low
Utter pleb. You should consider suicide.

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HIROSHIMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

When Megaman’s trailer for Smash 4 first came out, it was the best thing to happen to him in about a decade.

>beloved third party characters get into Smash
>smelly autist obsessed with Splatoon and Krystal seethes

Mega Man 10 came out in the same decade retard

he's in

>free
Lol, nintendo PAYS to advertise other's people shit.

Doomguy when?

>Implying that was better than his Smash reveal
It was cool, but it didn’t seem grand or as hyped up at all.

He was such a given though, and while I understand his importance I don't have a major attachment to him.

based and redpilled

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Mega Man, Pac Man, Street Fighter, Metal Gear, Castlevania, and even Bayonetta to an extent have all originated or had extremely healthy lives on Nintendo consoles in the past. You can even argue that Sonic has always been part of Nintendo culture because of his rivalry with Mario. Smash is STILL about Nintendo all-stars, it’s just that we now have a couple of guests who have only been tangentially related to the company (like Cloud and Joker).

Stop. you're embarrassing yourself

Yeah, and they put all the nintendo all-stars in. So the next logical step would be to put in important, iconic third parties

>and Krystal
??
I feel like an Ashelyfag or Shantaefag is behind this post, because most Krystalfags took her deconfirmation better than ritually any other Assist Trophy.

Pretty sure they got Sonic at a pretty good deal though. Sega thought they were too good for Brawl and shot down the initial offer, only to come crawling back when Sonic's reputation went to complete shit after 06.

Speaking of good deals, I'm surprised we didn't get another Namco character consider they co-developed the game.

i can get behind the first one
but the others just seem like memes

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Simon>Megaman>Snake>Sonic>Bayonetta>Richter>Cloud>Pac-man>Ryu>Ken

Simon and Megaman were awesome.

Sonic and Snake were weird at the time but pretty cool.

Bayo and Richter were ok

I never played FF7 but was impressed by the choice

Pacman was meh

Ryu is a crossover whore and is basically in everything, being in smash eventually was just expected, boring.

Ken is just american Ryu, even more boring.

T. Assmad Grinchies

Sonic, Mega Man, Pac-Man, Street Fighter, Final Fantasy, Metal Gear, and Castlevania are all classic, legacy franchises that helped shape the landscape of videogames at the same time Nintendo was rising to prominence. They all also have close history with Nintendo in the early days of videogames.

Bayonetta is more of an advertising pick, I'll give you that, but her series has strong staying power in its niche. Also, Nintendo practically owns her now.

Dixie is still missing

Objectively speaking all of the characters that appear at least 3x on here should be in Smash by now

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I’m happily consent with the roster and don’t care about any other characters being added because I got Ridley and K Rool. Especially your retarded choices.

here's your remaining third parties, bro

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What is this clusterfuck of an image attempting to convey exactly

Why does Link always top these charts?

Damn how the fuck did Squall, Alucard, and Chrono manage to hang on?

I don’t know why you people think Sephiroth is that popular. He’s not up there with Mario, Link, Pac Man, Scorpion, Sonic, etc

See file name, these are who were voted the most popular characters for that given year on the internet. Link has won 11 out of the 12 years, backlash from Wind Waker caused him to get defeated by Cloud in 2003

Let me guess, IGN?

seething genocuck

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metal gear, castlevania and pacman are dead series

No, because they hate Sonic & called him the 3rd most overrated character ever

>Ness or Captain Falcon
>All Star

the only character I would agree with. People suggesting that characters like saki or ray mk II are nintendo all-stars are dumb.
wtf does the grinch leak have to do with anything, retard? the characters i wanted are already in. Your list is fucking awful save for Jill and Tails, you should be ashamed

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Yes

The truth is that Nintendo has pretty fuckin weak lineup than most people would expect.

> Sephiroth is literally the most popular character in gaming behind Link, Samus & Cloud
> Implying he shouldn't be in Smash when Cloud is already added & everyone associates him directly with Cloud
Keep s e e t h i n g zoomer

CUMON OP STEP IT UP

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Stop posting your same dumbass charts with asspulled """popularity""" polls as if they mean anything or as if anyone gives a fuck

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Is there truly a worse group of posters than BandanaDeefags?
Captain Toad has a better shot

No he fucking isn’t. If you asked random people on the street who this was 95% of the time they wouldn’t know. Popular doesn’t mean being voted by a group of Circle jerking Final Fantasy fans.

He used to be THAT popular but now for some reason he's fallen off & isn't in the top 16 anymore since Tifa beat him 2x last year

>"h-how do I respond after being btfo?"
>posts wojak
go back

He used to be but it’s been 20 years since FF7.

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How?

Symphony of the Night and Chrono Trigger are still mainstays of best games of all time lists to this day

Well for starters Toad is a lot more iconic than Waddle Dee and has been featuring in a lot more games and Captain Toad has his own game now

Dixie is not a Nintendo All-Star.

But Roy is?

nice buzzwords, faggot. Why should they add in him and give ff7 more representation when cloud is already in? There are much better Square reps and you know it, dumbass

How is that related to the fact that Dixie isn't a Nintendo All-Star?

>Sephiroth is literally the most popular character in gaming behind Link, Samus & Cloud
LMFAO the delusion. So you're telling me that Sephiroth is more popular than Pac Man? Than Mario? Than Pikachu? You're actually fucking retarded

Dixie has more playable appearances than Donkey Kong did in the orignal Country trilogy, tied with Diddy.

Because she's a bigger all-star than someone like Roy, that's for sure. Why don't you think she's one huh? Come on, give me reasons.

Roy is the OG shill pick

Sorry sweetie but you're just going to have to get use to all video game stars now

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Cloud is the only one who hasn't had some major relevance to Nintendo at some point.
Sonic being on Gamecube and Twin Snakes were huge deals back in the day; Sonic has since had extensive collaboration with Nintendo with the Olympic games series, Sonic and the Secret Rings being a high profile early Wii game, and Colors/Lost World being Nintendo exclusive; Metal Gear was an iconic NES classic for a long time; Street Fighter on SNES was a huge deal; Bayonetta on Wii U was one of Nintendo's big pushes for that console; and the rest go without saying

And even if Cloud himself has never had a presence on Nintendo, Final Fantasy has.

The point is all these special guests belong to publishers and series who at one time or another (and more importantly currently do have) have had strong relationships with Nintendo, you could say they're "friends of Nintendo".

And the truth is at this point all of Nintendo's heavy hitter series are represented, and more and more they've been dipping into niche series or characters from series that are already represented. Additing more Mario and Zelda characters has rapidly diminishing returns so at some point they were going to have to resort to guests in order to keep the feeling that they weren't scraping the bottom of the barrel and adding characters only diehards care about.

Yes, he is. Over 100k people already decided this since to get to the finals in 2003 he had to & did end up beating Mario by nearly 35k votes

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You’d think after Palutena and Dark Pit people would stop arguing about relevance

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Zelda hasn't had a real newcomer since Melee though

So will Sephiroth be in to promote the 7 remake?

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Those two only got in because of Sakurai bias, if someone else made Uprising, they would have never been in.

Hopefully, if they can't get his huge Sword to work i could see them adding Tifa in his place though

So what? Dixie is hardly in anything nowadays and the Donkey Kong series never put a big focus on Dixie even when she had the spotlight.

GameFAQs.

The relevance argument works great for Palutena and Dark Pit since Smash 4 begun development directly after KI:U. Having a new game get released as soon as Smash development starts greatly increases the chance for a Smash character.

Oh okay well I guess that because he won some fucking internet poll in 2003 than he truly is more popular than pikachu and mario. That settles that then

That’s the point.
EVERYTHING IS SAKURAI BIAS

Are you talking about Toad or C. Toad? Because BWD has more appearances under his belt than C. Toad.

You'd think they would after Sakurai literally said he considers relevance AND things like fan appeal

He may have some bias towards the game but Uprising was a big hit with Nintendo fans and people had been clamoring for a new Kid Icarus game for decades, you can't blame him for thinking that fans would love characters from that game especially while the iron was still hot.

Plus nobody would have complained if it weren't for Dark Pit and muh slots, and Sakurai clearly learned his lesson from that with the creation of the echo name to stop retards from sperging about slots.

Mega Man > Sonic > Bayonetta > Cloud > Everyone Else

He USED to be, he's no longer as popular as he was though. If that was your point, then you are indeed correct. Since last year he got destroyed by Mario & lost twice to Tifa.

> Big hit
> Only sold a little over 1 million
Even fucking Lego City sold more

pretty good for a revival

>with Nintendo fans

Nobody is actually excited about the idea of playing as Dixie, she is just flying Diddy that never developed at all past her DKC appearances. Give me Cranky or fuck off.

Metal Gear was never an iconic NES classic.

The series basically started at Solid.

That doesn't even make sense because Kid Icarus Uprising (and ergo Palutena/Dark Pit) were very relevent when Sakurai planned the roster for Smash 4, back in early 2012

Context, people

There is none, bandana faggots are spiteful little creatures who are similar to the waifufags that always rush to defend their shit character plus a great majority of them are falseflaggers. It's ultimately the worst combination of these traits.

I've seen some people forget that Ness and Captain Falcon were relevant at the time of their inclusion too and even had new games in production.

Because he's iconic as fuck & SE doesn't care about anything except KH & FF7. If it was about who deserves it, then Terra & Crono would have been added before Cloud

>low selling 3ds game
>relevant
More reps than from this game than Splatoon :^)

>low selling
not even trying

It was about as relevent as F-Zero and Mother were when Smash 64 hit

Is this you?

No

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nope

I could see Sakurai wanting to see if he could implement it. And failing.

>dead series
>last game in 2016

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Don't lump Reimu with your shit taste.

That would unironically be a 10/10 lineup.