I'm 3 missions deep.
I don't get it. In what way is this game better than all those lame flight combat minigames from Crash 3 onwards. Fly at ana enemy, use missiles.
Is it like monhun where the depth is hidden to all but series veterans? What am I missing?
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People enjoy them for cool missions and dramatic stories, not for a deep flight sim experience.
Don't play with standard controls.
Aim for S ranks.
Come back after mission 6 S rank and see if you still believe this.
>Fly at ana enemy, use missiles
You're not going to go very far if you think getting the missiles to hit is a matter of luck.
>mission 6 s rank
Pleb, try to S rank bunker buster while shooting down comet
>sony cucks hype up another trash game because they’re desperate for games
And why are you surprised again?
But the game is multi Plat retard
t. Stallcrashing nugget
I fucking hate Sony and this game is unsurprisingly better on PC.
its multiplat you subhuman consolecuck
>Bunker buster
It was a good challenge. I had to look up the 3 set paths on /aceg/ and that cuts your time down significantly.
Now Faceless Soldier S rank is a jalapeno seed in your pp.
>3 missions deep
>I played a game for 20 minutes I am an expert on it
It's an arcade game, therefore it's not really very deep. That said, give it a couple more missions at least, the first few are of course extremely simple and just meant to make you comfortable in the controls, give the game time to start getting exciting, unless you're working within a refund timer or something. But I'll tell you from the get-go that if you're looking for layered mechanics on top of mechanics, there aren't that many.
Took a dozen or so tries, but afterwards it's rather easy. Restarting the mission doesn't change the bunker spawns, but leaving the mission then playing it again will.
Do you really think you have had a proper taste of the game if you barely cleared the tutorial?
More like I played tgghree missions and saw little variation, and doubt much more will come.
ok.
>I doubt anything new will come after the first 20 minutes of a game
have you played a game before?
No, you aren't missing anything. These games are mediocre and have no content or depth. Basically just a piss poor attempt at copying the Star Wars Rogue Squadron games and Star Fox 64. You got memed by the delusional weed fanboys and/or shills that won't stop spamming threads about this flop.
yes. By the time you finish a tutorial you ususally get a feel for what exists.
20 mins? It's been over an hour. And yes. Most games have variation in content, not form after the opeining.
>Most games have variation in content, not form after the opeining.
Most games have an hour long opening or tutorials that introduce new game mechanics until the fucking halfway point.
Videogames don't introduce everything right off the bat. ever.
Honestly just stop playing. Go refund it while you can. It's clearly not for you.
You’re ignoring my point retard.
>Sony cucks hype up AC as some amazing series
>we get it on PC and it turns out another shitty simulcade flyer with a retarded story
Same thing happened with XIII. Learn to read.
name me one thing worse than retards who boil down a game to its most simple make up
>It's been over an hour
>An hour to do the first 3 missions
LMAO
To answer your question, people play it because it has a great soundtrack.
I tried to play it with music off once and it was actually so fucking boring dude and I couldn't focus.
Get to mission 19 and you'll see what I mean
Yea Forums. Why do I keep coming back to shit?
I bet OP uses novice controls while simultaneously being one of those DCS faggots that spams how great the game is because he wants others to get the same buyers remorse he has.
XIII is a great game you pathetic sim faggot.
yes, but ususally 60% of the gameplay is on the table an hour in no? Unless its FFXIII I guess. And AC7 just seems really fucking basic. The comment about it being an arcade game makes a lot of sense.
with cutscenes.
OK. I think i'll try with the different controls first though.
Different controls makes a lot of sense. It was puzzling ot me why this game would have anyone raving about it as it stands.
it's a flight sim game, what variation do you expect?
>OK. I think i'll try with the different controls first though.
HAHHAHAHHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHHAHAH
>sony shills circling the wagons
Pathetic
t. MUH HOTASS retard
Go play something up your speed, like forknite
You're definitely gonna see varied missions and then different planes and weapons will change everything again sometimes.
And pay attention to the plot because too many newcomers think the radio chatter is just for the dogs when they actually give you critical info.
the hotass fiasco is funny because you can literally just use a program like x360ce to do it
baka pcfags in 2019 are just as dumb as consolefags were 12 years ago
I like you
this is my first ac
and its a bit challenging desu
currently at mission 18 , never got S only As and Bs
Novice mode is literally for game reviewers only so they don't trash the game by getting confused by pitching and yawing. Similarly this game isn't for sim faggots who demand a joystick, its an arcade flight game. This is like bitching that you don't play call of duty with a real gun.
I S-ranked all of 4, 5 and 0 and I got mostly Cs and Bs on my first run of 7.
At mission 7 where the Dragon ball tier cliffs appear
Oh nooooooooo
I have to install it agaaaaaain!
the only mission i got s rank on in my first run with no checkpoints was First Contact
That's normal.
Don't chase S ranks until you've completed one playthrough. By then you get a general sense of the missions. And after a few playthroughs you should have enough dosh to buy better planes and upgrades.
did this on Ace with a Mig-31 speedyboi. was easy. shooting down comet helped a lot with the points requirement too.
I sometimes stall crash with the Berkut doing High G turns because I'm a goddamn moron
Does no damage count towards the score for S ranking a mission?
using QAAMs with upgraded tracking makes a mockery of that boss fight. mihaly's dialogue couldn't keep up with the missiles i kept ramming up his tail.
no, it's a combined destruction and time bonus.
e.g. get 20,000 in under 10 minutes = S rank.
if you go over the time limit the points you need increase by about 40pts every second. so you can kind of choose whether to go for a high score and high time or low score and low time.
how ?
that baby can even do PSMs
kulbit too
the only aams that aren't chez easy modo are saams desu
most op special is actually mgp tho. More precise and more applied damage/ammo than PLSL.
Can make this argument for almost every game made since ... what... late 90s? Early 2000s?
I wish I understood what was going on in this game. I don't mean I dislike it, I just feel that the story's told in a really, really weird way.
Also, I'm surprised the old guy isn't the final enemy, and the final battle is simply against two drones trying to establish Skynet. I mean, he basically came close to unleashing the drone apocalypse for nothing, because everyone would have died.
Were you playing on novice controls this entire time?
It literally locks you out of features like PSMs
Gib Mihaly skin now
SAAMs are amazing in MP with a fast plane. sniping QAAM F22s all day.
and yeah, my MG only run was easier than i expected. i wish the F4 Phantom could use the MGPs, i don't know why they limited it to the Mig-21.
HPAAs are also underrated.
Basically Belka did it.
>In what way is this game better than all those lame flight combat minigames from Crash 3 onwards
Can you make 9/11 look like a fucking joke in those games?
Tell me what you don't understand, user. Have you played any of the earlier games?
Down all the aces
yeah i feel like MGP shouldn't count for mg only runs considering how big the hitboxes are compared to the normal gun
>Don't play with standard controls.
Am I missing something here? Every single AC7 MP video I see, people are using it. Which is why I refuse to play MP
i felt so cheated when i realised you get no points for doing this.
How the fuck do you get to Comet and then immediately go back around to take out the ICBM before they're out of reach?
You do but it's delayed
I don't do slav planes well when it comes to High-G, the F-15C has so much acceleration that I can practically do it forever and that teaches you bad habits when you use another plane
i think you're confusing standard and expert. i haven't seen a single video of MP where someone is using babby-mode controls.
>Every single AC7 MP video I see, people are using it. Which is why I refuse to play MP
Who the hell are you watching? Everyone I've matched with plays on expert, standard puts you at a huge disadvantage
use Mig-31 with the speed increasing parts.
or the F22 if you're boring.
the F15C and YF-23 should be able to do it too as long as you buff their speed.
it's honestly pretty easy.
Go fast
It's pretty easy with the mig31
I've only played the Sky Crawlers one before, but that story was told in a fairly direct way.
This feels really strange, because you're a pilot who doesn't actually interact with any of the cast. I don't think you meet the Princess or Mihaly in person at any point. It feels like things happen more 'around you' than to you.
I don't know, I just feel like I'm missing something in general. Like most of the story flew entirely overhead.
hmm i'll have to pay attention next time.
anyone got any tips for S-ranking Stonehenge Defensive?
Is it better to use an anti-ground weapon or use anti-air so you can deal with the arsenal bird quickly? i'm guessing it's the latter seeing as the first part of the mission has a set timer so it doesn't really matter how quickly you clear the ground forces.
There hasn't been a single ace combat game where your pilot is voiced and interacts with other characters.
BECAUSE YOU'RE Z.O.E. IN EVERY SINGLE GAME
AC7 just feels like AC4 while trying to emulate AC5 story, AC4 has literally no narrative other than a simple war and Yellow 13, the narrative is pretty weak, the game is short, but the gameplay foundation is solid and pretty fun, they literally went all out in AC5 with the squadron, the crazy plot while keeping the same gameplay (improved, seeing how the AI actually tries to fly normally instead of doing a 360º while going at 900 mph)
AC7 gameplay is pretty fun, the foundation is solid and established, but the story drops the ball, it's very simple, things happen randomly, certain plot points and substory get thrown in and forgotten
I really feel like the next AC game is gonna be a masterpiece, like 5 or 0, they have gameplay spot on
desu i think the story is 7 is pretty poorly told, especially compared to the others. there's some good ideas in there but it feels like they scrapped the original plot and cannibalised it for a new one. it's just not cohesive.
THRUST VECTORING OWNS THE SKY
The whole game seems to be setting up space combat.
What are the best moments in AC7?
>the beginning of Two Pronged Strategy as you fly into the fight as Dual Wielder plays
>Cape Rainy assault when you start attacking the base
>when Sol Squadron appears in Farbanti and they fan out of formation
>shield going down when you’re fighting the Arsenal Bird and the chorus kicks in
The soundtrack is so fucking good and it makes everything 100x better.
Long Caster is canonically a talking cheeseburger
That's kinda deliberate, really. YOU are supposed to be the main character in all these games, but of course the game can't react to you as an individual, so instead all "character interaction" you get is from people reacting to your actions instead, and how they make you a hero and how they change the course of the conflict. It's an ego-boosting power fantasy, really, and I don't mean that in a bad way.
Im on mission 15 or something on pc on hardest difficulty. The one where it's in the city in the dark where you have to identify enemies first. Game has been fun but very easy. I play on expert controls with m+kb. Should have just been a little more challenging.
this. the ending strongly gave me that vibe and i'm ok with it. maybe not full space mode but some missions in low earth orbit and around a space station would be fucking amazing. the scope of superweapons gets so much bigger in space.
>play the 3 missions in vr
>mindblowing and intuitive as shit
>standard game is impossible to play now
WHat the fuck were they thinking?
Started 7 on Normal and it seems really easy. Is Hard a good idea? I played 4 and 5 ages ago
>all aircraft, form up on trigger
>trigger crashed, the drooling idiot. nah he just flew into a tunnel/
>arriving at the massive dogfight in mission 19, fighting with Sol on your side.
>chasing down the resupply ships into a thunderstorm.
so many amazing moments, but like i said, the story falls flat for me overall.
>gave up on s ranks after mission 19 and faceless soldier
fuck this game
>hand me that cheeseburger
I thought he was eating through the missions, are you telling me he's doing rapes instead?
Before getting 7, the only Ace Combat I ever played was the demo for 6 ages ago and I played 7 on hard. I was so bad I didn’t know how to do a high g turn in the first mission circling the same guy for four minutes, play on hard.
There's also a lot less of everything in those 3 missions compared to missions in the rest of the game. PSVR just couldn't handle the story missions. Maybe the next game will be completely playable in VR.
faceless soldier is one of the harder ones but it's not too bad. take the Rafale or Gripen with LACMs, upgrade their lock on range, add some parts to increase the plane speed, and you should be good. the key is to make sure you're quick, and have 7000pts by the time the "friendly" squadron turns up.
for 19, just take QAAMs with homing and capacity upgrades and go absolutely ham. when the arsenal bird turns up immediately restart from checkpoint to get all your ammo back. then focus on killing drones to boost your score until the shield goes down, then use your QAAMs and regular missiles to deal with the arsenal bird quickly, the last few targets are a lot easier with the QAAMs.
yes. normal mode is easy as fuck. Ace mode is the best mode i think. the AI is actually challenging. it's still nowhere near the difficulty of the older games though, where on harder difficulties a single missile will kill you. i loved that shit, made everything so tense.
>>An hour to do the first 3 missions
>LMAO
not him but it acually took me 3 hours to get used to the expert flight controls and even then the first destruction mission took me another 2 hours still
forgot to mention, taking down the Ace (F-18 Spider) on Faceless Soldier gives you about 1500pts, really important. He spawns if you destroy 50% of the white targets before taking out the last radar station.
idk why they even bother with having anything other than expert
game would be literally unplayable if i had to use 'standard'
>It's an ego-boosting power fantasy, really, and I don't mean that in a bad way.
Its arguably one of the best ways to do it, even.
For me MGP run on normal was the most intense so far, even more than missiles Ace
>PLSL 0
My nigga.
>The first few notes of CUM HISTORIA somberly playing as Harling's helicopter explodes
>Trying to fight off Mihaly in Yinshi Valley during a thunderstorm
>The entire second half of Faceless Soldier, including the twist at the end
>The entirety of Fleet Destruction
>HIT, DAMNIT!
>Doing what essentially amounts to a bandit raid for supplies on the refugee camp around Shilage Castle and end up having a showdown with Sol Squadron as a result.
That was my biggest disappointment. Also, the trailer give me other impression of what really happened in the game.
Everything in the final mission from take off to end cutscene. Even the fucking name, Dark Blue.
>final briefing. "This is our final mission. Trigger, let's go. We got a god damned war to end!"
>Everything about the final take off
>
I've come to the conclusion that the audio mixing is just bad. The voices are too hard to track with all the shit going on at default settings. Especially true on the first playthrough when player loading is especially high due to mostly only having shitty planes to choose from.
I enjoyed it a lot more on the second time through. And it made more sense. Except the princess jumping off the space elevator bit. That bit still makes zero sense.
Count took the missile, the wind blew her helmet off, which wasn't secure because of her hair frills.
>The voices are too hard to track with all the shit going on at default settings
You just have poor multitasking.
anyone try to blow the core of the arsenal bird and fly through the hole as it crashes to the sea
it would be pretty ace
I just took down the first Arsenal Bird myself.
Mission 7 was the only one that really struck me as "Damn, this is nice."
Any other ones I should be looking forward to left other than the inevitable final showdown?
yes. i died 6 times trying to do it. every time i died i told myself not to try and fly through that damn hole but every time i couldn't resist the temptation. did it eventually though and it was glorious.
We know what happened. The question is why? She wasn't in any immediate danger, she could have just waited where she was until someone came to get her. Why would you choose to jump off a fucking space elevator (without any skydiving or military training) when the battle is won and you're surrounded by allies? It happens solely so there can be cheap drama where you think the princess died, but the circumstances that "kill" her are retarded. And then they don't even go through with killing her in the end, making the whole contrived drama pointless. It's one of the only actual poorly written parts of the game.
the missile warning in old ACs was just high enough to know that you were being targeted but low enough to not be annoying and hear radio chat
in AC7 IT'S LITERALLY DESTROYING MY EAR
>not wanting to take the once in a lifetime opportunity to skydive off the space elevator
What are you, a pussy?
>Good music start playing
>MISSILE pii pii pii MISSILE pii pii pii MISSILE pii pii pii
>Characters start talking and telling part of the story
>MISSILE pii pii pii MISSILE pii pii pii MISSILE pii pii pii
They dropped the ball with this, even more when killing someone off screen
>how to tell if someone's never played AC before.
you just tune it out to your subconscious nigga. then later when you try to sleep and all you can hear is beepbeepbeep you can thank me.
>once in a lifetime
She became a world renowned hero who helped end the war and bring back peace. She could easily arrange some dumb charity event as an excuse to dive off the elevator whenever she wants during peacetime.
Older games didn't have the annoying MISSILE lady, it was just the beeps, and it was better, she can get stuffed.
fug I knew it
must have been glorious
waiting for mods desu
just replay the old ACs and compare grandpa
I'm playing on Expert
What's PSM
This is why consoles shouldn't be your target platform.
what the plane does in the video
it stalls and flips over because lmao its a video game
the beep was still just as shrill, if not more shrill. the only time the beeping is annoying in 7 is when you have a million drones on your ass, and obviously you SHOULD feel stressed out in that situation. and bitchin betty is a staple of flying, i'm glad they added her.
Oh, didn't even notice it was stalling since it was eye cancer quality.
Ace Combat 4
>Mission 12: Stonehenge Offensive
Ace Combat 7
>Mission 12: Stonehenge Defensive
in every Mission of AC7 you are literally surrounded by planes, your allies are literally retarded and barely keep the thousands of planes and SAAM off you, in the last mission against the Arsenal Bird you have 30+ drones following you around while you try to kill the damn Bird
best plane coming through.
>Ace Combat 4 Virgin Mobious 1
>literally fly in a straight line, shoot a couple of bullets at each cannon and go back quickly in case Yellow squadron appears
>ACE COMBAT 7, CHAD TRIGGER (INDEPENDENT SQUADRON)
>literally defend 1 cannon while babysitting 3 flanks of ground troops, destroy every helicopter, fight off Arsenal Bird, while destroying 30+ drones, and fuck Mckinsey after the mission
>literally surrounded by planes
did we play the same game? i felt like there was a severe lack of dogfighting missions. also the only mission where you can't just kill all the planes/missiles bothering you are the arsenal bird missions. why aren't you attacking the planes anyway? it's your job.
This has less to do about the system capabilities and more to do about the ressources they could afford to create for the vr mode, who was planned to be a bonus separated from the main campaign like the arcade mode of AC5.
I can't seem to find the interview where the devs said they had to completely redo the way cockpits were rendered to fit vr but also said that vr was like the next big step in the evolution of the franchise.
yeah i dont like them though cause sometimes when im trying to do a stall maneuver manually ill end up doing the automated flip when i just wanted to sit flat
>McKinsey
Pretty sure you meant McOnie
Even if you were gay Kinsey is getting rekt on the frontline already.
don't forget:
>flies under the railgun for a laugh and to wave at the nerds.
You can do CUHRAYZEEE shit in the game.
no, I meant McKinsey, Trigger only has eyes for Scrap Queen
kys nintenlard
Do you not hold triangle to lock your view onto targets?
I'm are there really not that many dogfighting missions left? It's easily the best part of the game. The "just destroy shit that are ultimately not very threatening" missions are realistic I guess but not what I was expecting a lot of.
did you find it easier to do this with MGP?
AC7 likes to book end almost every mission with a dogfight
dont worry nugget
How will this compare if I'm already 1000 hours deep into BMS Falcon and DCS. Will my flight stick and TRACKIR and other gear work?
The best missions are coming up.
The game is pretty much kicking into overdrive starting from Stonehenge Defensive. There's one Arsenal Bird left and you're gonna love it, trust me
nani?
the best dogfight mission is still to come, and you've still got some great boss fights to look forward to. a lot of other missions feature a lot of planes but also have a shit ton of ground targets which i don't like. none of them have the feel of Mayhem from AC:0.
I just finished Mission 16 and this game has been an absolute blast to play. Every mission feels like playing through some doped out Michael Bay anime and you're in full control of every single thing you do. The start is a bit rough but when you master the controls it becomes really fun.
I know, but the missions with ground score attack are just full of SAAMs so it ends up being the same, and I don't know about you, but every fucking dogfighting mission has just every plane targeting me, even if there are 4-5 allied planes around me
it's how you spawn one of the enemy Aces on that level.
Stonehenge Defensive really was a 10/10 mission. I fucking love how hectic it was flying all over the place trying to defend the structure. And the later part when it just becomes full on adrenaline.
In order to get one of the aces to spawn in Stonehenge Defensive, you have to fly under a stonehenge cannon. So people like to say that the requirements to make aces to spawn are all canon things that trigger did
Harder, PLSL feels more consistent than MGP on the platform dunk.
Yes, you can actually fly under the Railguns that Mobius destroyed, it spawns an Ace too. Trigger just doesn't give a fuck
dudes fuckin nuts
>103 missiles on multiplayer
it's all about filtering which missiles are actual threats using minimap. otherwise try mig-31 with speed parts. missile warnings aren't a problem when you can outrun the missiles lel.
When can we reasonably expect AC8?
I hope it comes with AC0 too
for me it was the opposite cause with the PLSL you have to start firing earlier and is less precise but with MGP and mig21 form factor its easier to go 90 degrees and start firing later for me
Why are these romantic rivalries between enemies so fucking boner-inducing?
>missile warnings aren't a problem when you can outrun the missiles lel.
that doesn't stop the annoying as fuck sound my dude
General rule I use as a scrub, if I'm not flying in a straight line, I just ignore the missile warning. If I'm keeping a straight line and the beeps intensify, is when I break direction.
the PLSLs deal more damage the MGs, so they're better for targets than can take a decent amount of damage, and also when you gotta fly through a bunch of collapsing platforms.
Everyone complains about the sound in the beginning. Play for a bit longer and it will become music to your ears. Trust me, I was here complaining a few days ago aswell.
i mean it reduces it severely. just turn down the SFX sound it it's really ruining the game for you.
Bandog is overrated. The most based thing he does is say
>Roper 1 is down. Mission failed.
>Not that its load was worth protecting.
>If I'm keeping a straight line and the beeps intensify, is when I break direction.
this is not good if the missile is at a wide enough angle in front of you the beeps will still be the same and not hit you making you turn for nothing
use your radar
Why do you keep posting this shitty one that nobody can read?
>it stalls and flips over because lmao its a video game
It works the same in real life with those planes. Maybe not as fast as AC7 implies but they are all possible.
>DLC missions.
>Some Belkan fuckos are trying to take down the space elevator.
>They are too good, they take everyone but you out.
>You see an allied plane on the radar approaching rapidly.
>"Can you hear me, pilot with the three strikes?"
>not
I can't hear it anymore after playing a lot.
On the other hand my head starts hurting with this game after long periods of time, it's kinda bothersome but bearable.
wasn't his spine fucked up or something
>your buddy made a joke, laugh.
Damn Mission 8 was annoying.
Literally found the last target with 8 seconds remaining.
click on filename
click on picture new friend
Like every single mission has air-to-air, if anything there isn’t enough air-to-ground and attackers are useless good because fuck reddit, and fuck le brrrt memeplane
Ace Combat Belkan Magic™ can do wonders.
FUCK DRONES AND FUCK BELKANS
just zoom the map out one level, use the contour lines to remember where the trucks are once the vanish, fly straight and low to where the targets are. pretty easy if you ask me.
>also when you gotta fly through a bunch of collapsing platforms
but with the mgp vertical fire and hitboxes you can start firing later(closer) rather than earlier and not have to worry so much about clearing the platforms in time
>Mission 20 isn't you and Mihaly flying solo against Hugin and Munin running the perfect combined flight data of the two of them, as he finally learns the lesson that if you stick with Trigger, you'll make it.
>hugin and munin realize that if you stick with trigger, you'll make it
I got it on PS4 because I wanted AC5. Is multiplayer fun enough for PS+?
I guess I could get UNIST for PS4 too
is trigger a furry?
I hope not
the worst part of that mission is the time limit at the start
>
mashup of archangel and daredevil plays
>Everyone closing formation on trigger for IFF
>Stonehenge shooting arsenal bird and actually killing it
>Mihalys X-02 against the sunset
>Staring up the space elevator into dark blue
God this game was excellent
but there are like 2 missions which are SOLELY air to air. huge aerial dogfight missions just have a different feel to them than missions where you have to go shoot some shmucks on the ground occasionally. if i wanted to deal with the ground i wouldn't be in the air, going mach 3, in a soviet bathtub with wings.
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I'm playing it on xbox you dumb motherfucker
he shoots a sly comment when you land during that mission as well
true, to be honest i've done the mission with both and didn't find either one particularly easy or hard.
Anyway, A-10 with UGBs is probably the most fun way to do that mission. sure you can't collapse the entire platform in one run (unless you're a god), but skimming the water, popping up slightly and slamming 2 unguided bombs into the side of a destroyer at point blank range feels fucking AMAZING.
i wish you could disable parts of the hud like targets but keep other parts
>
>special dialogue if you actually DO crash on landing
Will we ever get a more sophisticated target selection system?
Even on console the dpad is unused.
Says the guy with only 2 INT
>bragging about finding critical information that will make or break the war
>pretty openly say you're gonna blackmail the fuck out of them when you get back
I don't know who's more stupid, the guy who left the password near the computer, or Fullband for talking that much shit despite several warnings.
older games had the boresight which was incredibly useful. after playing Zero and then going back to 7, i found myself pressing R3 trying to target whatever was in the center of my screen so many times.
>games
Only Zero had it
>X-02 gets a dumb, downgraded rail gun compared to the laser, isn't very useful 80% of the time
>getting an S rank on any of the higher difficulties is liable to give you an ulcer
>beat the game on hard and get S rank in every mission to get this Emblem and...that's it, hope you fucking like whatever emblem it is or you'll probably feel like you wasted a shit ton of time.
>story makes zero sense, even for Ace Combat standards
>quantity over quality seems to be the philosophy now in terms of characters
>never with any one squad for very long, so no character development or rapport
>customization for aircraft is terrible compared to the previous games
I was actually pretty disappointed, desu. Only thing that didn't disappoint me was the soundtrack.
Can't order squadmates around
>can't use bore sight
What in the actual fuck were they thinking with this installment?
i think target acquisition in 7 is worse than 4 still
ive had targets on the ground in front of me and instead of defaulting to the one within missile range it goes to a target 10k+ away behind it when i switch on more than one occasion
Use a decently fast plan with UGBs or SFFS. i.e. F15E, SU34, YF23, SU47 etc. Knock out the clustered ground targets fast. And as soon as you see bombers on your radar shift focus on them.
Also user, look up how to spawn the aces. I know 1 or 2 of them will actually seak you out.
S-Rank for hard gives you the F-22 Erusea skin
>AC3 fans get a prequel to AC3
>AC4 fans get VR missions
>AC5 fans get a remaster
>AC0 fans get nothing
> stonehedge defensive
> halfway through the mission, a erusean radio chatter mention something about mission accomplish
> confused and thought I messed up and failed the mission or something
> later re-watching the mission in a playthrough to read all of the chatter
> realized that some Erusean spy or spec op managed to murder a whole of non-combatant survey tech and was the reason why stonehedge had to be manually fired
I think part of 7's problem is that it tries to avoid giving you the same target too soon after you switch off of it. For example, if you are looking at a trio of targets and you have the one at the back as your current target then it will give you one of the others. Change again and it will give you the third. The problem is that instead of going back to the third it will now try to give you a target that's somewhere else because the game thinks you don't want that one.
well then, just another reason why Zero is objectively the best Ace Combat game.
s-ranked everything on Ace, wasn't that hard at all. 90% is picking the right plane and parts.
>people couldn't follow the plot
How? I can understand that there's some things that were underutilized as fuck, like osean penal units, but people don't understand huge amounts of the story. Were they not paying attention during mission 16 or something?
thanks. was thinking of trying again later with the Su-57 and PLSL, seeing as it will be useful for both sections. can you actually complete the first part quickly? i thought it was just a set timer until the arsenal bird appears. already know about the Aces, good for an extra few thousands points.
A plane doesn't handle like a fucking car. That's what you're missing.
>pixy skin for F-15C
>preorder bonus.
pretty lame. all zero fans really got was more anti-belkan stereotypes.
ace combat handles less like a plane and more like a spaceship desu
The secret ingredient is silliness.
fucking how i want to do that in first person
man i wonder how fucking cool is this game with vr
Why are Mihaly's skins so aesthetic?
>man i wonder how fucking cool is this game with vr
probably garbage because the resolution on consumer vr screens is absolute dogshit right now and remains so for the foreseeable future
Main thing about VR is that I don't think you can do PSMs. But if you have a chance to use the Hori stick since it has rumble, its fucking rad. Its still pretty good with the Thrustmaster, but the lack of vibration really pulls you out when doing into the clouds
the asnwer is very fucking cool. 3 missions was not enough, it feels incredibly intuitive tracking targets and i got zero motion sickness even though i never play VR. almost like how the game was meant to be played.
wow, it's fucking nothing.
how in the actual FUCK do you do a PSM? I've been trying for the past hour and can't wrap my head around it. I Did it once and that was using babby control mode. Is it 100x harder on Expert controls or something?
It is possible to wipe out all the Eruseans before the arsenal bird shows up. It's just difficult and you have to be fast and thorough. I've S ranked the mission before by taking out 95% of the Eruseans on the first phase. Maybe there was a mirage2000 or SAM I missed.
Another thing you can do for points is go for the Arsenal bird's sub propellers and defenses.
haha i wonder what her brraps smell like
300-500 km/h, and then you press both throttle and brake, and THEN you push back on the stick
To go that slow you would have to be braking right? So do you have to let go of brake then re push brake/throttle? Do you just hold throttle/brake down through out or do you let go shortly after pulling back the stick?
AC0 fans got a whole new plot about BORDERS
Ace Combat 7 has easily the best soundtrack of the series.
Bandog is the best.
Playing through AC5:The Unsung War
It sucks, I'm hating every minute of it
Played AC04: Shattered Skies
It was great I loved it
if you want to maneuver for longer, you have to let go of brake/throttle, but you dont have to rerelease the brake to start it. you just have to hold brake/throttle at the same time
good taste
keep playing it anyway
zero is a lot better
Too many people think the radio chatter during missions is just useless fluff, when in fact its the primary method of exposition for the plot.
I found the story pretty easy to follow.
Pretty much every AC7 is amazing but it doesn't have ZERO in the soundtrack and it's giving me some conflicting feelings
You can get ZERO in multiplayer fights.
It's not just Zero, pretty much every piece of music that plays in the Round Table is kino.
YES / NO
YES
what's the last mission?19?
>finish electrosphere last night
>turns out i didn't get as spoiled as i thought
god damn
20
So cinematic experiences? Right, Yea Forums is a bunch of chink dick sucking ironic weebs after all. You’re all hypocrites
Yeah
I did that literally on my first try by accident (technically second, since aces like Comet don't spawn on your first playthrough). The secret was to use the supersanic mig with speed upgrades
every AC7 song*
Yeah but it's multiplayer so who cares. Besides, I don't really mean it specifically, more like the soundtrack having any music that is absolute god-tier levels like ZERO.
ZERO was peak Kobayashi and I don't think it's going to be topped anytime soon.
i don't think cinematic experiences means cool missions and dramatic stories.
>cinematic experiences
no this game has a low skill floor and a very high skill ceiling
The first 3-5 missions in any Ace Combat game are always piss easy
People use it for non-lockon sp.weapons like EML or Pulse Laser but that's pretty much it
Chopper Memorial Stadium
I thought every mission was pretty easy to get an S rank once you git gud, even on Ace.
Except for Faceless Soldier on Ace. Fuck whoever designed that. WHAT A FUN MISSION .
Man the Space Elevator is pretty wasted. Had there been more parts like Mission 19's 1st phase it could have surpassed B7R for me
youtube.com
Now thats a real Ace
>People use it for non-lockon sp.weapons like EML or Pulse Laser but that's pretty much it
no they don't
I've literally not seen a single person aside from the usual game journo speds use the scrub controls, because in MP you basically need the extra mobility that expert controls give you.
Well the game sort of just says "Fuck you" in Mission 04, I can see a lot of people getting lost there already.
>people getting lost in mission 0 fucking 4
What is there to even get lost about in that one?
The way "cinematic" is used on Yea Forums means cool explosions from cinematic camera angles happening every 5 minutes. The game has a story that gives what you're doing dramatic context instead of something like Sky Rogue where you just fly around blowing shit up, but it has very little cinematography going on in-game.
>Pixy betrayed this hot piece of ass for his ideals
That's how serious he was about BORDERS
Missile lock range enhancement+missile reload speed helps a lot.
If I had to choose between RE2:Make and AC7, having never played any previous entry in either of the series, what would you recommend? Obviously I recognize that in an AC thread my answers will be a bit biased but I'd still like to hear your reasoning.
>I've literally not seen a single person
I've seen people recommend using it for that purpose in threads on Yea Forums and /vg/ pretty frequently.
Not literally lost, user.
it says a lot about the current videogame playing audience when an ace combat game is supposedly "too hard to understand".
Re games are slow and strategic, AC games are more fast paced and action oriented.
Pick your poison.
I've been a regular poster on /aceg/ since the beta for Infinity, and not ONCE have I seen someone there recommend anyone use novice controls.
play the original REmake
The radome on his plane is a literal hamburger too
The first mission in AC2, AC4, AC5, AC0, ACX and AC7 (shoot down one or more bomber(s) who will call for backup fighter planes) are pretty much exactly the same lmao
It's almost tradition at this point
is there something for crackedfags for the multiplayer?
Well if you like horror, go RE. If you like non-stop NANI?! adrenaline thrill, go for AC.
literally the first thread I clicked on in my /aceg/ history
emulate some of the older AC games before buying AC7 because it's honestly the best way to know what you're getting into
3 also
How the fuck is this game so good? Got done with Mission 18 and it has been one hell of a ride.
Was High Roller getting killed PA's way of killing Assault Horizon (again) and burying it forever?
yes I watched that new Ace Combat Fan video
Is it hard to play the older ones if you play AC7 first? It probably has the best gameplay right?
Assault Horizon Legacy Plus, too. It drops a named squadron on you in the second mission, but they're pretty retarded.
>ironic weebs
why ironic? Just say weebs
no one is enjoying the game ironically.
>and mouse
Maybe you should try not being autistic so you can detect when someone is telling a joke
Not really, the basic formula for AC has been the same since AC2
>get behind TGT, ram missiles up their butt to win
>turn to not get hit
>Why is Gargoyle squadron firing at the elevator?
>Above all things, why the fuck is Harling flying back to the elevator?
>Umm it was obviously Trigger who killed Harling LMAO, even if you don't use a sidewinder
>There will be an inquiry
>as if the particular pilot would be held accountable for all the chaos even if it was your fault
Then the game gets freakishly cartoony after that.
>Um I'm Bandog and I'm basically an asshole, shut up and go to >
>And I'm McKinsley I'm also an asshole, and you're a fucking faggot
>Like you're just fighter pilots in valuable planes, you're expendable
And I don't blame anyone turning their brain off after that and just following the objectives.
Not sure what it is about Bamco games in particular that draws the leet gamers out.
High Roller got isekai'd to the AH universe when he got rekt by the drones.
I was able to transition back into 5, which has my least favorite flight model outside of AC1, pretty easily
Ace Combat is a series that really manages to pull off the
>it's been one hell of a ride
kind of feel
Just you wait until you get to Mission 20's opening for MAXIMUM KINO
Not really, the ps2 games' gameplay's pretty much on par with it. Anything earlier than that, though, and you might be right.
Yikes, someone unironically too stupid for Ace Combat
I think by lost he meant they can't find a way through the radars.
Also some artist managed to make Bandog cute.
Basically the only thing the PS2 ones are missing is post-stall manoeuvres. Apart from that it feels just as good.
you'll get more mileage out of RE2 since you've never played RE before
I like both.
Noted. I like the grander scale of RE2 to the mansion of RE1 (and of course the graphics are much nicer in 2) but I'll keep RE:Make in mind. I figure it'll go on sale during the next big Steam Sale though so I may hold off on it until then.
This is probably a dumb question, but are the AC games kind of like Starfox64? Specifically the all-range mode segments?
I've never emulated PS2 games before, is it relatively straightforward? If I do emulate, I hear that 4 is where to start right?
get both
also get DMC5
this year is the year japan is killing it
Also High-G Turns
And Sekiro.
The nips are getting my wallet. Fuck it.
>this post
Are you serious? Do you get lost in movies and any other form of media if what is happening isn't explicitly said beforehand?
For fuller context: AC7 was released on PC, and that post is from shortly after its release. How is that a joke?
I'm saving up to buy some autistically expensive cardboard so I'm trying to hold back on games, especially since I don't have as much time to play them anyway. I also want to eventually get KH3, DMC5, and Etrian Odyssey.
>Do you not hold triangle to lock your view onto targets?
I beat the entire game without doing this. Didn't know until I went into the threads afterwards.
2019 is the year Nippon liberates video games from (((western))) claws
4 is tough to emulate, there are graphical bugs that don't go away outside of software mode.
Honestly the easiest one to emulate is X. PPSSPP is babbytier easy to set up and the gameplay is on the same level as the PS2 games.
oh yeah, that too.
It's like the japs collectively decided "let's unleash all our fucking best games in the same year"
Because mouse controls fucking suck. It's like someone asking
>how do I 360 no scope
>n64 controller
Follow the thread, clearly talking about the plot.
For what it's worth, unless someone actually looks at a map, people may not even realize Osea proper is on another continent entirely and that's why the Erusea news network are going on about civilian casualties because there's a whole other front.
really easy to emulate as long as you have the latest dev build of PCSX2. here's the guide i used that got it working 100%
personally if you plan on playing 7, start with Zero. it has peak gameplay and story in most people's opinion. then if you like it, play 7. if at this point you're hooked, go back and play 4 and 5 and enjoy all the references. 7 is still enjoyable without playing all the other entries, as it should be.
If you die in VR mode you get a first hand view of your plane catching fire before breaking up too.
is it weird that i kind of like the lack of high G turns? make's dogfights feel smoother and more natural. like a sexy dance.
Oh okay. I've been casually checking out AC threads when they pop up on Yea Forums and I heard that 4/5/0 were the ones to start off with but if X is still good I'll check that one out.
I think by lost he meant they lose interest because the game just forces you into a stupid situation that a court martial would clear you of but it doesn't because that's not dramatic enough. Even not from a story perspective, from a gameplay perspective, interrupting the player as they're shooting down targets and enjoying the gameplay to pull that bullshit is mildly frustrating at best.
4/5/0 are the best but if you just want to dive in and see what it's all about then X is easy to set up and doesn't waste your time.
>Why is Gargoyle squadron firing at the elevator?
Because the elevator generates power for the arsenal birds
>Above all things, why the fuck is Harling flying back to the elevator?
This is deliberately left vague to lead into the "Harling's Mirror" theme of having multiple perspectives on the same event. Oseans believe he sacrificed himself to save the elevator, Eruseans believe he was trying to destroy the elevator.
>Umm it was obviously Trigger who killed Harling LMAO, even if you don't use a sidewinder
>There will be an inquiry
>as if the particular pilot would be held accountable for all the chaos even if it was your fault
Eruseans developed drone fighters that tapped into Osean IFF systems, and based off of aircraft in Osean inventory to frame a random Osean fighter pilot (you).
>Um I'm Bandog and I'm basically an asshole, shut up and go to >
Bandog doesn't send anyone to solitary, he's just no nonsense and doesn't take shit from prisoners
>And I'm McKinsley I'm also an asshole, and you're a fucking faggot
McKinsley is an ambitious career officer who is salty that he was demoted to being the CO of a bunch of prisoners in the middle of nowhere
>Like you're just fighter pilots in valuable planes, you're expendable
Strangereal has more planes than it does people.
Mouse controls are fine for flying games, though. I'm more comfortable with it than with the controller.
Mouse controls are fine for War Thunder.
They are not fine for Ace Combat.
There's a point in the story where the princess and scrap queen talk about that decision being entirely on what (you) as a player believe. Is the Space Elevator a thing of good or bad? Then that answers what Trigger did.
Even if they had all the resources in the world, the PS4 couldn't keep a stable framerate in the storymode without VR.
Then go play Halo with an N64 controller
>>Like you're just fighter pilots in valuable planes, you're expendable
444's planes are put together by Scrap Queen from battle ruins. The initial plan was just to put some fake jets on the runway, but they improvise once Scrap Queen manage to make functional ones
It feels like every great game in recent years have been from Japan or East Euros/Slavs
>Then that answers what Trigger did.
Trigger didn't actually do it, though. A nearby drone fired the missile. You can even see this happen in the game.
>I'm 3 missions deep.
Pleb
damn this is one embarrassing post
To the town of Chopinburg rode a stranger one fine day
Hardly spoke to folks around him, didn't have too much to say,
No one dared to ask his business, no one dared to make a slip
The stranger there among them had a big drone on his sky
Big drone on his sky
The moment that it feels I've been waiting near a decade for.
>see what it's all about
Personally I would still recommend something like AC0 because ACX's story is pretty weak for AC standards, and one of the things that AC is "all about" is over-the-top MGS with planes anime storytelling.
>>There will be an inquiry
>>as if they won't investigate the death of a former president and pin the blame on someone expendable
Complete amateur to emulation here. Where can I find roms?
Ace Combat requires even less maneuvering than War Thunder, meaning any drawbacks you think mouse control has would only be less glaring.
Just get AC7. This will give you too much headache if you have to ask that question.
>expecting to not be held responsible for allegedly killing the former president, even with drones
Trigger is not for sexual. He has loves for planefus only.
here's the one i used for Zero
cdromance.com
and here's the ps2 BIOS you'll need.
romsmania.cc
>Why is Gargoyle squadron firing at the elevator?
The drones are programmed to defend the space elevator at all costs, even sacrificing themselves. Firing at it would get rid of the drones faster.
>why the fuck is Harling flying back to the elevator?
If you knew his character at all you would know he wanted to stay and protect the elevator. Which is also told to you later in the game before Mission 18 if you were too dumb to understand that like Princess D'Elise.
>There will be an inquiry.
There was. And Trigger's name was cleared within 3 weeks.
>444th
You're in prison. Of course the warden and guards are assholes.
>Like you're just fighter pilots in valuable planes, you're expendable
Fighter jets are not a valuable resource in Strangereal, they're cheap and easily manufactured thanks to Gründer Industries. Fighter pilots are however and it's better to use them even if they're criminals.
Honestly, considering how dumb and out of line fullband was acting, I don't blame Bandog for having him shot down.
They are not Nintendo games so Emuparadise probably still has them
i fucking hate that fly by mouse shit in war thunder
such a boring and detached way to fly
unfortunately you're at a disadvantage if you don't use mouse
ergo war thunder is a dogshit game
>download 2 files, follow instructions in a 10 minute video.
i think he'll be fine.
Pinning the responsibility on one of their own men is a bigger embarrassment to their military than the president being shot down by a swarm of highly advanced new tech drones. They have a fancy recap after every mission that shows they're keeping track of every missile you fire and a simple audit would prove that it wasn't you who shot Harling down.
It’s been a few years actually
2017 was an insane year. Sure a few of them were released in japan earlier in 2016 but if we look at first release in the west, it was insane. You had Yakuza 0, Gravity Rush 2, Nioh, Nier:A, persona 5, dragon quest, RE 7 all in the first half because Nip likes releasing big games in beginning of the year for some reason. Nintendo side had BotW, splatoon 2, and xenoblade, FE. 2018 was a bit slow with only MHW and DBFZ but that was good enough for me for the whole year. This year is another big Nip release
IFF and other battle systems were completely hacked by Erusia. You think they couldn't fake missile data?
Emuparadise. CoolROM is also pretty good unless you have a two digit IQ and manages to get viruses from downloading random installer .exes on the internet
I’m an unironic pleb
Should I play AC7 or is it only for dedicated flight game fans
At that point (You) are still a newfag too.
It's for radical dudes
they're fun even if you don't like planes
but they're way better if you are a planefag
>2018 was a bit slow
Last year was trash all around. What a boring year for vydia. 2019 is the redemption arc.
>Above all things, why the fuck is Harling flying back to the elevator?
Debated In-universe.
Most likely reason is that Harling is shit at flying.
>plane leaves with 62 missiles
>comes back with 62 missiles
>"this guy's clearly guilty"
Some planefag noticed the special weapons are correct from the planes origin too.
>LASM
>Murican planes use the AGM-84 Harpoon
>Slav planes use the Kh-31
>French planes (mirage/rafale m) use the Exocet
Thank you, I'll start with 0 then.
Ah cool, I'll keep that in mind for 4 and 5 if I enjoy 0.
Also, thank you very much to everyone who offered help/suggestions in general. You were all very helpful!
>if you don't shoot down the drone you fail because the timer runs out
You guys act like I don't get it.
The point is someone just getting into AC7 could easily be like
>I don't really get what's going on, I'll just fly and shoot
well until they're nearly finishing the game.
There's a lot of shit that's done offscreen or you just have to take for granted.
>Umm so Harling is that important that we're sending in one dude who's on his 4th sortie as part of only two squadrons
>send in a couple of shitty choppers
>sup Mr Jackson
>bye Mr Jackson
>why doesn't the President talk to us? (obviously, it's scripted so you're led to believe the comms are down when the cockpit is shot, but Harling is still able to fly?)
It's all done fairly poorly for cheap drama.
There are a lot of great details
>equipping GPB on the Tomcat and Mirage also gives them targeting pods that are specific to each plane
>planes with MFD's will display the types of SPW on the screen
Ace Combat is like Quake if it LOOKS realistic
>do I fit in yet?
You shoot down the drone with your guns and the cutscene still shows harling being taken down by a missile and you taking the blame
>
He literally found out about them doing recon on "ruins" during your first confrontation with Mihaly. It's just that during Faceless Soldier he finds out what and where those ruins are located.
>It's all done fairly poorly for cheap drama.
It's really not.
>I've been framed, and for some reason harling turned around. I guess I'll have to keep playing to find out the answers to these questions
Like seriously, what kind of sub 3rd grade comprehension are you trying to dress up here? Who the fuck is going to get caught up on Jackson popping up and dying?
>>Umm so Harling is that important that we're sending in one dude who's on his 4th sortie as part of only two squadrons
Trigger is a rising star who's already been showing impressive achievement in taking down the drones. All their best pilots are in other units occupied with special tasks, like Wiseman and the LRSSG, or got killed when the Kestrel 2 was sunk off of Farbanti.
Someone posted this in a past thread, and I think it's a pretty good short analysis.
Gonna interrupt this thread saying chasing the supplies in Mission 17 through the clouds was absolute kino
>that last line
kek
The first time I played it I just kept shooting down drones elsewhere until the time ran out.
well thats literally the only exception. every other scenario makes an acceptable amount of sense. anyway you shouldn't be using the mig-21 with MGPs until you're in the penal unit, that's the true canon.
excuse the pun but it's literally hack writing
No it's not.
He was making breakfast before getting evacuation and he turned back because he just remembered that he left the stove on
Real answer is that Harling is an autist and the space elevator was his life time achievement and legacy. He didn’t want to leave it to be occupied by erusean or he knew that he was going to die in that situation and wanted to the elevator to be his grave. It is very likely the later given that his pilot just got killed and he’s inside a slow flying coffin surrounded by drones
The escape craft that Harling was in WAS RUNNING BEFORE THEY GOT IN IT, HARLING DIDN'T FLY TOWARD THE ELEVATOR BY HIS OWN WILL, there's also the fact that his portrait during his only line has it outlined by the "UNKNOWN" color scheme box.
For the first time, true
>come on, just 100ft more
>ZAP
>Umm so Harling is that important that we're sending in one dude who's on his 4th sortie as part of only two squadrons
They literally call you a hot shot pilot by mission 3, you highhandedly save two entire squadrons, everyone thinks you're an ace pilot (except knocker)
Most people playing this series for the first time think it's fucking garbage. It's oe of those series that people played when they were kids and have a strong sense of memories with. It's going to have a hardcore fanbase, but I just wish they would acknowledge the games aren't the best and stop shoving them down peoples throats here on Yea Forums.
Except at that point the drones stop firing at Mother Goose One and literally just hang around until you shoot one down.
>okay, supply ships are making a run for it, but I have a MiG-31 should be easy pe-
>look at the ominous thunderclouds with lightning scattered throughout
>mfw doing this on a gun only playthrough.
Not him but it's pretty clear Harling purposely flew back to the elevator after gargoyle squadron attacked it. He was trying to save his life's work (and Nagase), it's backed up even further by the Aces at War short story
Just play something else.
Maybe, but why would there be a transport there already running right as Sea Goblin was doing its extraction for him?
every single ace combat is filled with plotholes and deus ex machina. it's part of the fun.
>sidewind pushes you so hard that your jet is going sideways faster than it's going forward and the distance to the target starts going up instead of down
Yes that was the whole plan, to kill Harling and put the blame on an Osean pilot to keep public opinion on Erusea's side
>mfw doing it on the no damage run
Long day made me so mad I dropped the game. How the fuck are you suppose to know a random tunnel is housing ~2000 points of unamned planes. I accept I'm a shitter but why throw a mission aimed at attackers when you likely don't have one and the only multirole has non ideal ATG SW?
...because logistics are a vital part in military tactics and strategy? why the fuck wouldn't there be transports at the FOB at the space elevator?
>cockpit destroyed
>colonel killed
>somehow the ex-president is able to fly it perfectly level back to toward the space elevator
That's not even mentioning all the stuff the eruseans are saying during the mission that makes it clear they are running the show.
probably the only thing i won't bother doing. too much RNG and restarting.
Then why consider it his coffin when the drones literally are only bunching up so they can blame a IUN pilot. Not Osean.
Is there an user who's mad enough to do a no damage, guns only run while S ranking everything on Ace?
It’s because the erusean was planning to pin the death on an osean pilot. Harling doesn’t know that. As far as he knows, he’s in a transport heli with handful of escort jet and there are shit load of drones around him. Missiles are still flying all around him
RUNNING, THE POINT IS THE TRANSPORT WAS ALREADY RUNNING YOU FUCKING MORON.
that doesnt seem mathematically possible desu
I did it without flying through the tunnel (the only reason i failed the mission on my first go around was because i crashed in said tunnel) on my fist playthrough, on hard, with a Mig-29, just how poorly are you playing?
i don't understand how people struggled with this mission. those planes take off eventually anyway. you don't need an attacker, you can easily make the point quota in a fighter by focusing on air targets (which give you more points) and then picking off the ground targets with regular missiles once you have no more planes to shoot.
Let me just throw in this question, does anybody know how to rebind hotkeys in PCSX2? F8 is not a comfortable key to be pressing over and over while playing with a controller
is it seriously that baffling to think a transport could've landed at the space elevator just before the attack began?
>How the fuck are you suppose to know a random tunnel is housing ~2000 points of unamned planes.
They come out eventually
Unless you were flooring it past every target, because AA fire is way more accurate these more recent games than for the PS2 games.
some of my best scores were on my MG only run, mig-21 is no joke. trying to s-rank faceless soldier on ace, only using MGs would be a royal pain the ass though.
>why consider it his coffin
what?
The IUN is a thinly veiled front for Osean imperialism, for the Eruseans it doesn't make a difference
Also, I didn't knew that even AC04 already mentioned the Oseans. I suppose Erusea steamrolling the Osean forcers in AC7 isn't as implausible as I first thought.
>hey there Trigger, having a good time weaving between pillars?
I thought the whole point of the attack was to clear the area of anti-air so they could start the evacuation
>It's really not.
If you're going to deny it, at least explain why.
>Who the fuck is going to get caught up on Jackson popping up and dying?
Loaded question. I'm ultimately just pointing out his role as a convenient plot device.
>Harling never gives any indication that he's pissed Gargoyle shot at the elevator
>Cockpit shot, pilot dead
>ACKSHULLY MGO is still functional, but conveniently only the comms are down
>Fuck you Trigger
literally never crashed because of the lightning
only missed a few missile openings
It's easy once you have a route planned
>BRIEFING: BE CAREFUL OF FLYING THROUGH THUNDERSTORMS
>BANDOG: BE CAREFUL OF FLYING THROUGH THUNDERSTORMS
>FULL BAND: BE CAREFUL OF FLYING THROUGH THUNDERSTORMS
>CHAMP: BE CAREFUL OF FLYING THROUGH THUNDERSTORMS
>Fly through a thunderstorm and get zapped
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW
>Umm it was obviously Trigger who killed Harling LMAO, even if you don't use a sidewinder
>There will be an inquiry
>as if the particular pilot would be held accountable for all the chaos even if it was your fault
The military courts took a look at Trigger's internet history.
I pretty sure his "belka did nothing wrong!" posting didn't really help his case.
>just how poorly are you playing?
Farthest I've gotten is ~15,947 on normal
Shit's overwhelming with how many targets there are and with no objective tell you what to do dumbasses like me who have a hard time flying at all struggle to come up with a proper route.
Post Huxian fan art pls.
>that one drone that keeps flying between the pillars
>chase it and get struck by lightning
>ded
What do you mean? Transport was there because that’s how harling got to the space elevator in the first place. Did you think Harling walked from Osean to the space elevator? He was the president of Osean. Of course he has his own special private transportation. The basic story is that Harling was visiting the space elevator when the war broke out and the area came under occupation of Erusea. Officially, the story is that he managed to enter a bunker to be safe until extraction. However, it is likely that was part of Erusean plan to just allow him to hide there so they can kill him while pinning blame on Osean air force during rescue attempt
>How the fuck are you suppose to know a random tunnel is housing ~2000 points of unamned planes
Are you talking about the UAVs? Because they spawn no matter what, you just have to wait for the mission to reach a certain point. Also,
>playing an AC game
>see a tunnel
>don't fly through it
what the fuck is wrong with you
good map. pretty much the route i follow. the one at the top is a bitch if you try to get it from the west. still, without missiles i feel like you're just gonna get fucked by the AA satellite, especially on Ace where you get about 1 second before the missiles come after you.
Not him but the transport is specifically stated to be Erusean, it even has Erusean markings
>people getting outraged and defending AC7's writing
>not even they understood it
can't make this shit up
There are 3 bombers at the nearest base that spawn shortly after the F-16s take off. Wreck them all for 3600 points.
>OK. I think i'll try with the different controls first though.
Holy fuck dude loooool
What I do is focus on the airbase first, take out the Vipers and Tupolevs, clean up the truck columns, take out any AA guns or whatever, then focus on the large base with the underground airstrip until the drones pop up.
UGBs and SFFSs are the best SPW for this mission.
>Transport was there because that’s how harling got to the space elevator in the first place.
Wow, they left it running for 21 straight days? Oy vey it's anudda Hanukkah
Bombers base>Western base>drones>Eastern base
Also kills the trucks in between, and get used to strafing with your gun
>what the fuck is wrong with you
It's my first AC game and i'm not confident enough to try it and I didn't notice until a video pointed it out.
I did, I did it everytime and I still shat the bed after 10 minute mark because of performance anxiety.
you should be able to buy an A-10 at this point which will help a lot. in terms of route, go for the western airfield, killall the planes and bombers before they take off. then go north and deal with the ground targets there, then fight some enemy planes, and then if you still need points head over the the eastern area.
>no objective tell you what to do dumbasses like me who have a hard time flying at all struggle to come up with a proper route.
Are you just flying around doing nothing? It's the simplest mission possible: blow up everything as fast as possible
>it's backed up even further by the Aces at War short story
Elaborate?
Last Hope is one of my top missions of the series desu
Same for me, got pretty close a few times
>replaying first contact
>almost never chased mihaly down those mountain things
>decide to do it at nearly 3000km/h because why the hell not
>lightning hits me
>desperatly spam high g turns trying not to fucking die
>check replay later
>was like 2 fucking meters from crashing into those pillars
S C R E A M I N G
Damn straight, gives me major Patlabor 2 vibes.
>military infighting
>IFFs are all fucked
>city under martial law
I had to go back and replay mission 1 a few times to be able to afford the A-10
Bruh, just shift through mini map setting to see the targets. You don’t need to get everything to clear the mission. One important part is the bombers taking off in the main base as they worth a lot of point and the game stresses how important those are. I cleared mission on hard with the A-10 and I never player an AC game before
There is a hidden artificial difficulty part though. After clearing the first base, you should go to the base to right of the first base as going for the other base will prematurely trigger the drones cutscene. Unless you want the drones to spawn and be on your ass early, clear the base to the right first and the drones spawn either at a set time threshold or at a point threshold.
The filler mission that got the best track.
youtube.com
It's about Harling, Nagase, and the astrophysicist who found Ulysses talking about the possibility of a second Asteroid collision. Nagase volunteers to head up the mission to blow up Ulysses 2, while Harling tries to ensure peace in Usea before Nagase returns home
drones are good to spawn early, easy points. plus you get to hear the rest of the squad praising you for downing the drones while bandog seethes and tells you to get on with the mission.
you're waifu a shit lmao
Since we're on this topic, post superior AC waifus
Wonder what she'll do after she finds out that Harling is kill
I assume she knows since she heard everything through the space elevator's transmissions, how does she know who Trigger is when she thanks him?
Source?
based
really
Well it is possible erusia offer him the transport to get there pre-war. Maybe his crew commandeer an erusian transport as they evacuate in the bunker but in reality, transport was placed there and left alone by Erusea on purpose. Who knows but it’s not that crazy hole in the story as people make it to be.
> helicopter engine can’t just be shut off and turn on again.
The source is literally in the post and filename, buddy
Mconie>princess>huxian>scrap queen
Anyone who can shoot a giant railgun without aim and actually hitting an airborne target is 10/10 for me
It's not a plot hole. It's a plot point. The whole thing was an Erusean set up
Yea, but if you are new to the game and pick the A-10 like me for the mission, the drones are a pain in the ass
>Bandog sheethe
You mean Count
>Trigger kills 5 drones
>well I kill 6
>No retard you haven't killed shit
it gets better once you realize they only take one missile to down and have pretty easy to remember patterns
The A10 has so many missiles and bombs that you should pretty much be done by the time the drones spawn.
Bandog actually seethes if you deliberately fail mission 5. Spare Squadron cheers when that happens too.
bandog is hilarious, don't get the hate for him
I'm nearing end of the game and I think that was the hardest mission for me. It comes from nowhere and hits your scrub ass.
The next game should be about an aerobatics team that's forced into war
The finale will have you and your squadron flying in your original show liveries with colored smoke trials and all
Act like a real attacker, even if you're not using an attacker plane.
Don't accelerate but don't brake as you approach the enemy bases. Your plane will automatically go 500-600mph.
Lock onto SAMs, gun down everything else prioritizing gas tanks.
If you don't get everything down on the first run, that's OK and expected. Just fly through a little and turn back around.
That's it. It can still be close if you're not using optimal routing and optimal loadouts, but you'll get it. I'm not sure how people struggled with the mission after this seeing as how Long Day's terrain is more threatening by sheer virtue of enemy missile frequency and how close you have to get.
I'd put Brownie over Huxian too and she's fucking dead
hell yeah, that would be cool
>Still on the missions where nothing even tries to dodge a missile
Gee I wonder
>Destroyed Hugin and Munin really quickly
>Fly up the space elevator
>Suddenly Nagase
>Apparently missed some earlier transmissions because I did in the drones too quick
I felt all warm inside and shit when I heard her voice, buddies
Brownie is definitely darker than brown now
>available timeline between AC7 and AC3 is shrinking
>eventually going to have to make a game where all governments are destroyed and Strangereal is a libertarian's wet dream, fictional planes included
Man, I kind of just want them to split the timeline
I'm excited for the eventual cyberpunk ancap paradise with jet fighters, personally.
Reminder that both GR and Neucom survives long into the future
ugsf-series.com
>all governments are destroyed
Wasn't it just Usea that went ancap?
Just set the game after AC3 about all the newer planes being hacked, people with Belkan ancestry are the antagonists and it's up to a literal who piloting a junker F-15C to missile massacre everything and suddenly people organize to have borders again
>Wasn't it just Usea that went ancap?
No, the entire world's satellites are fucked when people started to shot them down.
en.wikipedia.org
>AC being part of a shared universe or whatever
I hope they just ditch this idea for the eventual AC3 remake that's definitely going to happen you just wait
>restricting plane choice
no thanks, bud
>available timeline between AC7 and AC3 is shrinking
Solution: pre-1995 strangereal
Honestly, the cockpit got damaged enough that the pilot died. Maybe the controls were too fucked to handle?
more like you're salvaging old planes that haven't been hacked
sort of like the plot to the first patlabor movie
Only because gov satellites went down doesn't every single country on the planet will go full on REMOVE BORDERS THAT'S WHAT THE V2 IS FOR mode.
Usea makes sense because the entire continent was in a giant civil war/balkanization process in AC7 and in the end the once local superpower Erusua is now probably dirt poor and will have to sell everything to Neucom and GR.
Having done long day with the early mig and standard missiles, let me tell you what to do
>clean out first base completely
>ignore base 2, the terrain is way too shitty to earn points in
>make a beeline to base 3
>go tunnel diving
And if you are actually good at the game you can actually start dogfighting the drones, since they are worth a decent amount of points and tend to come to you, which is nice.
people keep mentioning this paltabor anime, is it good? don’t know why i haven’t heard of considering it sounds right up my alley, must have missed it when i binge watched every anime with fighter planes in.
>everyone wanting more near-future stuff with the exact same planes and themes
>forgetting we have an entire century worth of unexplored territory in strangereal
>S rank everything on Ace
>dont realize until afterwards you have to also do it on every seperate difficulty, and doing it on the highest difficulty doesnt count towards lower difficulties.
I dont think I can go on lads.
Patlabor isn't about fighter jets
Its about mecha.
Still a really good series though.
planes are only briefly in the second movie where miscommunication occurs and the fighters bomb tokyo bay bridge
it's a mech anime first and foremost that has different mediums and different adaptations
if you're still interested the first movie is probably the easiest to get into and then there's the Early Days OVA series if you like the world
I wouldn't mind a spinoff about older planes, but I like Ace Combat because of the scifi elements.
The mainline games should keep upping the scifi shit.
I like the more realistic elements because it's still fun without being too hardcore. Also making connections between the Strangereal world and our world is priceless. Belka.
Rebuilding the satellite network is also how Neucom and GR make their fortunes.
Someone actually sat down and thought of the timeline.
More like Ancaps, I'm libertarian and even I don't want megacorps.
wouldn't be surprised if that's why they had to rewrite the game a few times
Yeah, AC7 actually sets up AC3 quite well.
>the Lighthouse War bankrupts Erusea
>leads to the EASA being privatized
>which leads to Nuecom
>Grunder refines their AI software with more combat data
>the destruction of the satcom network contributes towards the balkanization of Usea
>the fall of Erusea sets up a power vacuum for the megacorps
>implying a 20th century AC can't be scifi
>implying he doesn't want to see "archaic" retro-futuristic superweapons
Have you read up on the Cold War at all? It was the craziest time for aerospace engineering. Most if not all of AC's scifi concepts came from real life Cold War projects
Now the saucy bits is that Osea is still kicking
>Osea vs Nemo in Ace Combat 8 - Electric Border Boogaloo
A WW2 era spin off would be neat. Lots of potential for flying saucer / flying wing jets as superplanes. Some of the complexes the Germans attempted to build in France to target London are very much AC superweapon worthy too.
can you fly down the space elevator in the final mission instead of using the tunnels?
I wonder how the people of Strangereal will deal the whole world going ancap thing. Anarchism does seem pretty popular there and there's also the whole thing about Selatapura/Lighthouse region turning into an independent/no borders thing for refugees and such by the end of AC7
You can fly down it, but you can't pull up in time to not crash.
Nations aren't nonexistent in AC3 though. They just don't wield much power over the corporations.
10 bucks says we get drones as squadmates in the next AC game.
>AC8
>it's an RTS instead
I'd rather have drones as an SP weapon, like the ones Hugin/Mugin carried
Funnel time, baby
But the best game in the series was a prequel
More like Ace Combat will make you a planefag if you weren't before. I mean that's what happened to the series director.
Its kind of weird that we have all of these out of universe theories about whatever Harling was doing up until he died, but In-Universe, there are only two given explanations and one of them doesn't even make sense.
People keep mentioning AC3, is it worth checking out? Whats the story like?
Going in for that S-rank Ace run.
Anything I should know buddies?
...
Yes, definitely worth checking out.
Story is a pretty crazy ride. Basically Ghost in the Shell with jet fighters.
Its also one of the more graphically impressive PS1 games out there.
More like Ass Combat will make you want to gouge your eyes out with a rusty nail. Only planefags and nostalgiababbys will tolerate this shitfest
Neither of them make sense.
>people with Belkan ancestry are the antagonists
What if, hear me out, you play as a Belkan in the next game?
>Neither of them make sense.
Harling trying to protect the space elevator makes some sense especially considering he saw his own side's forces trying to shoot it as well.
mega.nz
People are keen to compare it to Ghost in the Shell. It's easy to spoil and gets a lot of discussion, so if you have any plans on playing it, play it.
>Whats the story like?
Legitimately depressing imo
I didn't personally care for it because of the lacklustre gameplay but AC3 is well regarded because of its GitS aesthetic and mood as well as its forked story that has 5 different routes each with different missions.
Give it a whirl - but if you do, play the fanpatched JP version. The western releases gut the story and remove half of the missions.
WHAT'S THE BEST PLANE
>Legitimately depressing imo
I'm not going to play 3, so just spoil it for me user
He was under attack. Flying towards it increases the likelihood that a stray missile hits it.
He's also in an osprey, not a giant 50 story tall shield carrying around a missile magnet. If someone wanted to shoot missiles at the thing, all they have to do is use their supersonic aircraft fly around his slow ass and get an open shot while he choppers around at a snail's pace trying to stop them.
Su57 with PSLS