Fuck you Yea Forums.Echoes wasn't as bad as you made it out to be

>a remake of gaiden
>people still have the balls to say it’s good because muh story and art
Echoes is shit be virtue of being a remake of the worst FE game

I wanna bury my face in Celica's big hairy bush.

>worst FE game
that's not Revelations or Mystery remake, fake fan

Honestly, the biggest issue Echoes has is the horrendous generic maps. But that is a common issue throughout the whole FE franchise, so I don't understand the hate for either Gaiden or Echoes.

Agreed. I enjoyed it a lot.

What's wrong with FE12?

>muh story
Found the Fatesfag.

Revelation has multiple characters join that literally can’t deal 1 damage in their starting chapter. Fuck Hana joins later than in birthright and she arbitrarily has less base stats. The gimmicks are absolute shit, the plot is the worst of the three routes somehow and you can’t even recruit every character. Some of the character art can be bad at times(eg 6 fingered Anna) and the class designs are still fates nonsense like assless paladins/knights. I can’t think of a single redeemable thing about revelation while echoes at least has presentation on its side and the maps are just boring on alms side instead of the cancer that is the worst celica(so most of them) and revelation maps

Fates and Awakening are shit too, but unlike you brainlets I don't pretend that this turd known as Echoes is any better.

Based bush poster

Oh nice, that means you have no argument whatsoever.

People play FE because of the plots, characters, and simple gameplay. Go play FFT or Shining Force and quit your bitching, you tryhard faggot.

I've said it once and I'll say it again Fates is objectively the worst game in the series because it absolutely broke the fandom and anyone who likes FE and made it into the garbage it's known for now
It's so bad that people try to say the maps are the only saving grace and how they're "the best" when really they were mediocre and forgettable as fuck, and let's not get into Revelations shitty gimmick maps. True there are some decent ones but it doesn't make up for everything else, anytime you see someone say the maps are good they never give a single example. But since it had some okay maps, Echoes never stood a chance even if it did have a few maps that were decently challenging. And while we're at it you could argue that games like FE4 and Thracia, games Yea Forums likes to jerk off all the time, have pretty shitty map design and horrible balancing as well but get a free pass because muh streetcred
Corrin's retardation and the overall garbage characters and plot put people even more on edge to be critical of what's a fairly okay story in Echoes. Anyone that says Celica was an idiot is a brainlet that didn't truly pay attention and just wanted something to complain about.
Objectively, Echoes is above average with presentation being the saving grace and maybe a handful of maps that are kind of boring at worst. It's not perfect but it's a step in the right direction towards getting away from the Awakening/Fates cancer

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>People play FE for the plot

I'll buy that for the Jugdral games. The rest of the franchise, no.

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Hidari should've been the one to work on FE 3 houses, Echoes' designs take a huge shit on Awakening/Fates' and 3 Houses'.

Agreed.

Nah, there's a pretty clear divide between presentation and story fans, who obviously like Echoes for its good art and voice acting and decent story, and Gameplay fans, who hate echoes for its very bland maps and terrible unit balance.

I've always been a Senrifag myself, but Hidari does fantastic work too. It's amazing they can have amazing artists like Hidari and Senri still work for them on FEH then hire shit like 3H's abomination of an artist.

Makes me wonder if they blamed echoes poorer sales in Hidari's art.

Playing it on Citra and just started Act 3, what are the best units to use the villager forks?

Yes, they do. Otherwise they'd go play the aforementioned games.

>Fates is objectively the worst game in the series
No it isn't, and anyone who says this is a brainlet, its one of the worst ones but not the worst one, it's LITERALLY Awakening but better, only storyfags think Fates is the worst one, and their opinion doesn't count.

I do think Echoes is the worst game in the series, but it still isn't that bad of a game. To me, FE is a lot like the Kirby series, as in there aren't any games in the series that you'd call 10/10 GOTY material but every game is at least solid but with no major dips in quality. Echoes is the game that has the most gameplay flaws in it, but I'd still say that its at least a 6/10 game, its just that it's in a series that has mostly been 8/10.

There's a reason that no game in the franchise that the fanbase can definitively call the best.

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>alm emblem
>anything but shit

>it’s literally just one guy
Do you know how FE works

>Fates
>Anything but a 4/10

I'd agree with you but Awakening didn't have Corrin so no

Retards who think only one aspect of a game matter are the fucking worse.
In FE's case It's definitely the gameplay fags.

Yeah I guess Fates is better.

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Yes it was.
It's more bland than Birthright, which is a fucking marvel because that game was sleep inducing and it managed to be worse, but I don't know if it is inferior to Rev because I never bothered to play that one,

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>Revelation has multiple characters join that literally can’t deal 1 damage in their starting chapter. Fuck Hana joins later than in birthright and she arbitrarily has less base stats
I heard it was “Royal: The game”
But holy fuck

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Retards who think only one aspect of a game matter are the fucking worse.
In FE's case, it's definitely the storyfags.

So considerin we're getting High School Emblem, when are we getting Isekai Emblem?

Better than Fates but not as fun as Awakening.

FEH. (you), the summoner, are brought there from your own world.

I think that was FE7. I don't think they ever say for sure, but Mark could easily have been a middle aged Salaryman who woke up in Lyn's bed once day.

>Isekai Emblem
He's in

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You mean the one where you wake up in a new world and get to be appointed into a head position?

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Not even, Hinoka is trash and Elise joins way too late when you already have Sakura leveled up.
The unit balance in Revelation is garbage.
Sure you can grind and get them to catch up, but still

>In FE's case It's definitely the gameplay fags
No, it's the storyfags, they're the brainlets that pretend games like Holy War and Echoes are good because their only redeeming qualities are the stories, and they're the first ones to shit on good games like RD or CQ because muh plot bad.
And excuse me but are you fucking retarded? You're playing a VIDEOGAME, if you're going to be an idiot that only focuses on one thing, then gameplay should be that thing.

Even with Sakura joining before Elise Elise is still better.
The power of a mounted healer vs unmounted is a big one.
Felicia is much better than both though so using Sakura to begin with is moot.

Would you rather experience something that is incredibly bland or something that leaves an impression no matter how good or bad?

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>It's more bland than Birthright
Gaiden wasn't exactly any good to begin with. I think they did a decent job considering what they had to work with.

I just wanted to fuck any waifu at will. The artist is fucking great though.

>implying only using 1 healer

They should have worked with a salvageable game instead.

>The artist is fucking great though.
The new design on each and every character was awesome. I can't say I disliked a single character in term of visual.

You don't really need more than one.
Corrin levels up so much in early revelation that you become impervious to damage.
Then Camilla joins and you win the game.

7 would have been cool.

I’m the guy who didn’t play Revelations but I guess I heard you start off with no units for a few chapters so that would make sense

7 really needs redoing.
Nergal says he needs Ninian to open the gate,
He captures her and she refuses to open the gate.
Then he opens the gate himself.
The whole game is a mess from start to finish.

>I think they did a decent job considering what they had to work with
Not an excuse, a remake is the perfect opportunity to fix a game, they didn't.

Robin actually almost fits, he only missed not being a salaryman/neet from out world who gets run over by a truck, having amnesia and having family members who are important to the plot.

I’m playing Birthright for the first time and my blue maid just killed herself
Why

>CQfag seething

>no romances
>no wife mechanics
>no kids
why the fuck even bother

You start with Azura, Corrin and the servant of your gender's choosing.
You get Gunter right away so you always have +1 move and +4 defence and +2 defence and his +3 extra damage thanks to his skill.
The game is won, like most FE games you win with the units you start with immediately.

Hot take: Awakening is the most fun of the 3DS games because of how much it allows you to fuck around with the system and make broken pieces of shit. Where it fails as a strategy game, mostly with bland maps, it makes up for in creative freedom in the units.

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A lot of units need rebalancing too. A certain female lord comes to mind.

I'm with the crowd that thinks Conquest is the best in the series gameply-wise and I thought Birthright was just Awakening again. I'll give you Revelations though, that shit is a train-wreck through and through, only thing I remember liking about that was the look of the final stage and the Beruka-Oboro support.

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Did you S-rank her sister for their unique harem ending?

Kinda unrelated to that but I think the way they handled the prologue/introduction thing was pretty cool in Awakening because it wasn’t a flash-forwards but the moment Lucina’s timeline went to shit.

Celica x Saber would have been a better pairing.

>Not an excuse, a remake is the perfect opportunity to fix a game, they didn't.
I agree. I just give them cred that it at least was made better than the original.
My biggest complaint are the DLC.
I got the LE for Alm and Celica amiibo

Something about shame and how if she were to survive her village would be wrecked by Garon's goonies to set an example.

I do enjoy the fact that every unit can become a god

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>believing those 2-3 people who shitpost about echoes daily represent Yea Forums

>at least was made better than the original.
That's a pretty fucking low bar, the QoL improvements alone of hardware going from the NES to 3DS immediately makes it better.

I feel so lied to, I picked F!Corrin because I didn’t know Felicia was in the game.

Conquest would have been better if they had comitted to it being 100% evil route.

Lissa's family needs exiling before she ruins the Royal family's reputation!

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>Why
Bad writing. Because I had the same reaction playing birthright.

>picking uwawawawawawa clumsy maid over the shittalking butler
Poor taste, user.

The only thing they had to do was improving the generic open space maps and it would probably have been one of the best Fire Emblems to date.

>Echoes thread with wildly skewed IP to post ratio

Like clockwork. And Echoes is fun once you hit the point where you realize it's like Genealogy and can't really think about it like a "standard" FE. It's a different beast kinda like DaS2.

>mfw I +10'd her in Heroes

I like the idea of Jakob but I don’t like how he is a different person around Corrin. It feels fake

Weirdly Silas gets a huge stat boost, notably in hp. He’s like the one character they actually tried adjusting to the route. The funniest to me is getting birthright shura fairly early at the same time as you get nyx who is fairly shit in rev.

Yeah but then it becomes unfun as you realise every map is an open field or a boat.
Then an open field or a desert.
Then an open field or a swamp.

Being different is not an excuse for being shit.
I don't see people praising Revelations even though that one is different too.

>Conquest would have been better if they had comitted to it being 100% evil route.

At least Azura went full heel on that route.

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I was surprised seeing this comic. I wasn't the only one who thought Azura likes killing millions.

Everyone here agrees Azura is one of the all time worst characters in Fire Emblem right?

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>Echoes thread with wildly skewed IP to post ratio
Because god forbid people actually discuss and not just dump their opinion and bail.

>hmm we have all the Hoshidan royals captured and defenseless here, what should we do?

>I know, let's go easily conquer Hoshido with the least amount of fatalities, so-

>NO WE MUST RELEASE THEM AND THEN FIGHT THEM IN A BLOODY FULL ON WAR BECAUSE THAT'S THE HONORABLE THING TO DO

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Because at the start of the game she runs away and starts a rebellion, causing her dad to get killed and a decent portion of her tribe to get slaughtered. Then afterwards she betrayed her sister and someone she may have somewhat considered a friend. In short she felt a lot of guilt and sudokued. Rev kinda shits on this because she randomly never rebels and instead just has her entire fucking tribe go into hiding so I don’t know why they didnt just do this.

It's because he's a boss

Yeah, I told you that. I liked it.

>There's something I still don't get. Am I really THAT weird? This world's full of crazies! Look at Jakob. He has split-personality disorder. The minute Lady/Lord Corrin he's a celestial being with a heart of gold. With everyone else, he's a jerk. Silas? He's OK, but he's into some strange stuff.
What did Odin mean by this?

Post your favorite final boss fights.
>FE2/Gaiden
>FE3
>FE8
>FE11
>FE13
>FE14 Rev
All of these were hype as fuck for me.

>yet another shill thread about this terrible game

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I'm going to be real, I understand them not telling the other Royals why Garon got replaced by Slime. Do you honestly think Elise, Leo, and especially Xander would buy into that? If they showed them the orb, what do you think would happen? Elise might buy it, Camilla might but be hesitant, starting to worry if (you) hit your head, I personally doubt Leo would, and there's no way in hell Xander would. He'd think Azura was trying to brainwash them with Hoshidan magic or some shit.
So the problem in actuality is: how do we get the royals on your side?

Probably the best mage I have ever used.
It's odd to have a mage who can take a hit.

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>Conquest and it’s characters are so retarded even Owain has to call them out on their bullshit

Shows how much of a fucking retard you are to think this piece of shit is close to good.

Ashera

Corrin is lame!

FE4, FE6, and TMS.

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Based. The story isn't even good also

When is Lucina's next card?
It's been too long since her last one!

>muh story and art
And funny how both these things are fucking terrible huh

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When she gets a new FEH alt.

In June! She just became an exalt in September, so give her a break!

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You forgot her swimsuit!

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Or maybe it's a fucking garbage piece of shit with the shit mechanics, and the broken AI, and the mediocre repetitive music, and the crappy story, and the awful characters, and the recycled animations, and the eye bleeding art, and the stupid twirl the MC do at the beginning of the the PP. But nah lets just forget all that.

Earlier, she had a new card teased a few weeks ago.

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You really need to work on being more subtle, user.

Because it's just an alternate art! You fucking psycho!

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They can just take the Nohrian siblings to Valla

Wow a a entire post that uses "objectively" wrong in every single way

Playing this now.
I just beat Duma Tower as my wafe, Celica... so now I'm Alm. I'm about 3 spaces away from the Rigel Capital and Emperor. So far it's a lot of fun... I really like the dungeon crawling aspect.

My only gripe is that you get Alm and Celica's ultimate weapons WAY too early.

>tfw like Xander's design, his (JP) voice, and support dialogue
>but story Xander exists.

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Drop the piece of shit and play something better.

Yea Forums doesn't think it's bad. It's literally just one autist shitpisting in these threads, trying to drive the narrative that it's bad. I liked the game myself. He'll probably respond to this post too. You can set your watch to the replies.

>the cancer killing fe

well you have to make Celica's and Alm gets two because he's a gary stu.

>It's literally just one autist
Keep telling yourself that.

It's a fucking terrible game. Notice how you dipshit just focus on maps and can't look at anything else

None of what you said was close to true

kys barneyfag

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>shit mechanics
I found them fine. They were just simple compared to modern Fire Emblem.
>broken AI
I didn't find them much different than usual. You can probably give me a situation where they fucked up here.
>mediocre repetitive music
The game probably has the best soundtrack in the franchise.
>crappy story
Was fine to me. It wasn't that different compared to any other Fire Emblem game.
>awful characters
Probably some of the more natural characters. I liked them.
>recycled animations
Animations were better than in Fates and Awakening.
>eye bleeding art
I disagree. The redesigns are great.
>stupid twirl the MC do at the beginning of the the PP
Not sure what you mean.

Its fucking bad and no amount of good presentation will help it

its just retards mad about people shitting on awakening and fates. I'm pretty sure everyone likes echoes and only anyone ragging on it were just being hyperbolic.

>Awakening is the most fun of the 3DS games because of how much it allows you to fuck around with the system
The best meme. Awakening isn't a good one for this set of mechanics. Breaking the game requires a shitload of unsatisfying grinding for Galeforce since it's mandatory on male children. Shit like Disgaea is fun to break since you have a ton of variation in your army while you're grinding and the content you're grinding is different every time. Items balloon into absurdity and the game actually has content that can push back against that absurdity. The Bravely games are another example of breaking a game being fun. You create job builds and grinding party set ups, crank the encounter rate up to max, and watch your job points go up. You're rewarded for grinding efficiently. And the end result of that grinding is a build that actually plays differently than other builds. Getting new job asterisks also means there's always a steady supply of new shit to grind and new builds to be made.

Awakening's eugenics is shit. It's not a good grind game. It still tries to punish you for grinding by having an internal level that cuts your exp. Instead of making it easier to make fun broken cheesy builds it punishes you because it's half grinder garbage and half shallow wannabe FE. Not only that the game is super easy in the first place so what's the point?

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Echoes is fun when you realize the only good thing about it is shitting on it

Subtle for what? It's another shill thread you love making.

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>its just retards mad about people shitting on awakening and fates
Awakening and Fates are shit too.
>I'm pretty sure everyone likes echoes
No, only people with shit taste do.

You're right and shows how fucking retarded Yea Forums is

Fates' gameplay is great though. Story not so.

>esports fagging Fire Emblem
Truly the worst kind of autists this fanbase has to offer.

>found them fine.
OH NO NO NO NO NO
>Magic not scaling with skill making the stats completely worthless on casters and the skill list for the characters is completely random. Magic takes off HP, which is a cool concept but HP pools are so bloated it doesn't even matter, and white mages also take off HP so you infinite heal off each other and just raise exp all day and staffs are infinite too so you can spam shit like warp and other OP spells all day
>AI makes decisions that make it seem like the AI is broken
>cantors are the worst gimmick ever created
>you get to use all the characters on the first time through and a lack of branching classes means that everyone always ends up the exact same. Combine that with very slow grinding and a number of very bad maps and replay value is extremely low for a FE game
>UI is a step backwards with the weird detailed forecast, no grouping the same items together, no mini map on the bottom screen during battles, dungeon map is poorly designed, and choosing aesthetics over information on the status screen, UI doesn't show Critical Hit rates, Dodge rates, and Avoid rates
>dread fighters are OP
>Armors are total garbage
>weapon skills are a nerf to damage because of a lack of double attack and only needing one point speed higher
>the absurd amount of food items you're given makes stamina meaningless, even if you don't want to hobble your ass to a Mila statue, which is easy as shit to do, you can just say fuck it and use up flours or bread until you get there
>Healers being broken as shit makes continuous health not matter, just have Genny invoke and psychic everyone while the enemies are battling the soldiers. especially pointless if you have Tatiana who can just fortify everyone at once
>every single map and placement of the enemies are the same for each enemy.
>there are almost zero incentives or rewards in dungeons other than clearing it for exp, stat fountains, or getting to a mila statue to promote someone

>no resource management due to infinite durability and free marks and supplies given every, every force random encounter gives the player 100 marks
>game has no progression, with Killing Bows being the best weapon in the game and they are mid tier weapons promoting the player to not use higher tiers since they can't compete with it and do to the shit forging reduces weight/increase MT and hit for free rather than previous games where you have to make a choice with the gold you were using to increase three different factors
>pegs and mages don't get a 3rd promotion making their effectiveness drop heavy during the mid to late game and doesn't contribute much in the first place unless you are a bad player
>You still have to seek out a Mila's Servant to change your class, with no options to do so in towns
>archers are completely broken with things like trance shot and hunters volley, 5(?)-range doubling with bonus crit, can literally OHKO enemies from halfway a cross the map, there is a major skill imbalance in the game
>There are only two difficulty settings, Normal and Hard. All hard does is change enemy stats and levels but not by much, however this has the side-effect of giving player units slightly more experience than in Normal Mode, compared to games like FE7HHM with enemies having higher stats, differing inventories, and there are more of them. The composition of enemies can also vary greatly, requiring different strategies altogether to approach them. In many chapters, the number of deployment slots is reduced, giving the player fewer units to work with, and less gold in total. Or FE12 Lunatic with higher stats, maximum weapon levels, and enemies can have higher level weapons such as Silver Swords and Bolganone much earlier, different inventories and positions.

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Wow a human with a brain in a FE thread

damn; it didn't even take him a minute. It literally is like a machine programmed to reply. I guess that's autism though, it turns you into a robot

He's even samefagging in this thread and replying to himself.
Look how the IP count doesn't go up

>Yea Forums is one person
That obsessed autist started posting a few minutes ago, people were already shitting on Echoes before he even appeared. Again, you're delusional if you think only one person hates that game.

yeah, I noticed that too. What's his endgame? What would he do with his life if his mission were finally complete?

>AI makes decisions that make it seem like the AI is broken
You still haven't given me a situation were this would be broken. You just keep repeating some hypothetical thing you can't prove apparently. Nor are you giving an instance it acts broken.
>dread fighters are OP
I completely agree, but this is nothing new that a fire emblem game has a broken class.
>Armors are total garbage
I'd say archers are worse.
>weapon skills are a nerf to damage because of a lack of double attack and only needing one point speed higher
Not always, but sometimes.
>there are almost zero incentives or rewards in dungeons other than clearing it for exp, stat fountains, or getting to a mila statue to promote someone
Or end game weapons.

>Fates' gameplay is great though
Doesn't mean anything if your level design is trash, which is the case for two of the three routes. CQ may be good, but as a package, Fates is shit.

I enjoyed it but I have no reason to ever play it again. Yes the artwork and voice acting were well done but it's still FE, the story is mediocre at best. The maps are boring and Celica's side is especially mind numbing. Unit diversity is shit on her end. If I could play just through Alm's side I would maybe play through the game again.

I enjoy a FE game based on the whole package. Visuals, animations, music, story, characters, gameplay, etc.

Only a fucking autist cares about one single aspect and dismisses the rest.

This fanbase is so fucking bad. It's gotten even worse than Zeldafags.

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Just pure autism like barneyfag, you can't reason with it.

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Not sure if you're the same as >no resource management due to infinite durability and free marks and supplies given every, every force random encounter gives the player 100 marks
I agree not having durability makes it a bit boring.
>their effectiveness drop heavy during the mid to late game and doesn't contribute much in the first place unless you are a bad player
This sentence doesn't make much sense.
>You still have to seek out a Mila's Servant to change your class, with no options to do so in towns
Didn't bother me too much.
>archers are completely broken with things like trance shot and hunters volley, 5(?)-range doubling with bonus crit, can literally OHKO enemies from halfway a cross the map, there is a major skill imbalance in the game
This completely contradicts you saying weapons skills are nerfs.
>The composition of enemies can also vary greatly, requiring different strategies altogether to approach them.
Which in my opinion made each run more different other than stats.

I think echoes is fine. Maps were just fucked up. But maybe I'm just used to this kind of Fire Emblem.

And the whole package is garbage

Yeah that sums up Fates pretty well.

Mother of God, what in the name of

>I
Fucking pathetic

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>have F!Corrin marry Xander
>still threatens to kill her

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Yes it does for Echoes.

>Doesn't mean anything if your level design is trash
I will never understand this. Fates has great maps and shit maps like every other Fire Emblem. People post the same one or two maps from their favorite and call it a day like consistent proof, when in reality, the game has shit maps too.

I just like to have fun. And I haven't played a single Fire Emblem I felt like quitting. Story and visuals are just a bonus as long as I can have some fun with the gameplay.

Yeah, I agree, Fates as a package is probably the worst FE.

user you only need like 5 good units to break the game

lmfao 3DScucks are pathetic. Why aren't you a GBAchad?

You only need one

ok

Yes Echoes is shit. Notice how no one can counter objective flaws

The story being garbage is a huge detriment for me to fully enjoy a FE game.

I dropped RD for now after the prison escape map because the story is just so fucking awful so far and there aren't supports. I might pick it up later but it really didn't keep my interest.

There's nothing to be okay about. The game is bad but you have no actual way of defending it, so you go oh "I like those shit things". The state of Echoescucks

At least 2 if you want to chain galeforces so you can move potentially 8+8+8 spaces

Yep, Fates has so many objective flaws that it's only good as a mediocre dating game.

>Look how the IP count doesn't go up
Not even CQfag, but so? Do you expect only people new to the thread ro reply to newer posts? I've been in the thread since before him, so the IP count isn't going up any time I post either.
There are much better ways at identifying him than the IP count, like his blatant posting style. I am not CQfag is not CQfag, you can tell from the lack of buzzwords.

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Well, finally they seem to have gotten durability right in 3H, now that skills will consume more dura for each weapon.

It's better than Echoes consuming HP for skills, and definitely MUCH better than Fates steel and silver weapons being garbage and just having to forge iron weapons.

>RD
Now that you mention it. RD had some maps I really didn't like. That Swamp map in part 1 for example. Plus it has units that I want to use, but makes the game hard as fuck instead, like Meg.

Or just use Robin with flyer to rescue skip.

Steel and Silver was fine for already slow as fuck units.

And yet you enjoyed a bad game like Echoes for the story also being complete garbage

nigger what? Disgaea requires a shitton more grinding than Awakening if you want to have a unit that isn't cannon fodder garbage. You start with a few good units, and the rest are garbage for a good chunk of the game. Disgaea gives you a lot of shit, just not very good shit. It's everything but the kitchen sink design and it's tedious as fuck. An Awakening it doesn't take much time at all to break units, and you're actually given a decent amount of them with the potential to become powerhouses in no time.

lmao relax bro it's not that serious. I'd say it's near bottom of the barrel FE games for me but yes I did still enjoy it.

>Fates has great maps and shit maps like every other Fire Emblem
This literally only applies to Conquest, there's a difference between having some shitty maps, and 90% of your maps being shit, which is the case of Birthright and especially Revelations.

This. A character is pretty much broken as soon as you pair up in awakening.

>I

Echoes is my FAVORITE FE there is nothing you can say to change mind. Yes it's because of the voice acting, yes it's because of the artstyle, yes it's because the soundtrack, yes it's because of how if someone dies, it matters & NO I don't care if the maps are archaic and you have to abuse tactics. Fuck you whiney bitches.

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The story and Radiant Dawn gets better. Stick with it and it will definitely improve. There's the usual conspiracies and political fuckery you've come to enjoy in FE games.

Yes

No it fucking doesn't. Especially when L+ exists

>it's because of how if someone dies, it matters
This. Recently played Der Langrisser and while it's nice having all those units around your heroes the lack of permadeath makes it piss easy.

>and just having to forge iron weapons
I've already disproven this meme many times, don't make me do it again. Only Silver weapons are bad and even then they can get situational use.

It's still a bad game

It's harder than any FE that's for sure.

No not at all. You use "I" because you are pathetic

Good for you, as long as you're not a brainlet that pretends the game is objectively good, you can have fucking Revelations or even FE1 as your favorite who cares.

If you say so.

>The story and Radiant Dawn gets better
It literally does nothing but get worse and retroactively ruin PoR

Echoes is that bad no need to reflect

Half of the fanbase considers it by far the best game of the 3DS era and the other half considers it trash. It's kinda the reverse Conquest, so I guess that's a given, though it isn't quite as hated.

>Revelations
I agree with you. But Revelations also had some of the most fun and interesting maps too.
fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/White_Flames
fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Hidden_Strings

what? no it doesn't get worse. Dawn Brigade arc was literally the worst part of it. Greil Mercenary arc was the best part of the game gameplay and story wise

>if someone dies, it matters
How does it matter more than any other game? You get several chances to revive them too.

Reminder that the GOAT VA gets overlooked for Uncle memes.

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>if someone dies, it matters
And this makes it different compared to any other Fire Emblem... because?

>if someone dies, it matters

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3DS screenshots on a proper monitor always looks so much better.

The only units who would even care about steel weapons are wary fighter knights

>playing L+
That entire difficulty setting depends on what L+ skill the enemy randomly got

>I completely agree, but this is nothing new that a fire emblem game has a broken class
No gives a shit you agree it's a broken class
>I'd say archers are worse.
They aren't Archers are the best class setup in the game
>Not always, but sometimes
Always
>Or end game weapons
Garbage
>I agree not having durability makes it a bit boring
Who fucking cares the system is shit
>This sentence doesn't make much sense
Yes it does
>Didn't bother me too much
Not an argument
>This completely contradicts you saying weapons skills are nerfs
No it doesn't. Unless you have a brave effect the skill is shit
>Which in my opinion made each run more different other than stats
Not an argument
Saying stuff about yourself doesnt change it's a bad game

>Medieval era
>using the phrase "hanging out"

Can't ruin a shit game like PoR in the first place

And?

Too bad he's shit like all the other VA but that's okay.

>Saying stuff about yourself doesnt change it's a bad game
I never said otherwise.

Yeah, you don't need to sully a great game like Echoes by comparing it to garbage like Fates,which managed to be a bad game three times over.

The game is unplayable without warp abuse and summon spam for my patience. Also the snippets of dialogue after a battle and someone dies, like if Mathilda dies.

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You did that's why you use subjectively

>like if Mathilda dies.
The best of Alm the mary sue

Ever see the FEFates cutscenes HQ?
youtube.com/watch?v=M67KtHzK2YA

>The game is unplayable without warp abuse and summon spam for my patience.
I played it on hard from the get go and I never felt like I needed warp abuse.

>being such a fake fan that you don't know that was an edit and not even bothering to find out

Why is FE6 so bad?
I just finished the game and it was so bad.
All maps were simplistic seize garbage.
It wasn't even harder than FE7.
Nothing but dragging Roy's useless ass through the map for the entire game.
God what a fucking shitshow

>The game is unplayable without warp abuse and summon spam for my patience
That literally applies to every FE game though.

Only bad players think Echoes gameplay is bad.

No, I didn't.

Seriously how desperate are you to shill this shit game? You shills make the same exact thread every single Saturday

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Or people with a brain who hate shit gameplay in their games

There is literally just one shitposter who seethes over SoV

I didn't say it was real

>Also the snippets of dialogue after a battle and someone dies
Path of Radiance did that ages ago.

You can tell they put a lot of effort into the cutscenes compared to older titles.

Yeah you did

Anyone with a brain wouldn't find anything to complain about in the gameplay.

Spicy bait

I love the soundtrack of Echoes.

No people with a brain doesn't like objectively bad gameplay that doesn't

Then you're pointing out that supposed anachronism why? It's fake. It has bearing on the game.

And only the easily impressed think Echoes' story is good because it's better than Fates'.

Nigger you can suck my spicy dick

Yea Forums hates fire emblem because most of the people here suck against sword fighters in Smash Bros. Just a bunch of plebs.

No you don't retard

offer any thought*

All the budget went into the cutscenes that they forgot to make a good story to accompany them.

Honestly, Fates need a remake where they redo the story and it would be S-tier Fire Emblem.

Come back when you speak English properly.

Ryoma's sudoku at 26:06 to me is a really great scene. His body is even smoking afterwords because of the electricity.

That's fucking sad. You like garbage?

I just felt compelled to point it out.

There is no reason to, so you are glue to your computer screen defending a bad game you can't read chain posts.

Why the fuck do you keep giving him (You)s?
You should know at this point that he's an atention whore trying to shit on any discussion this game has, just ignore him and he'll fuck off (or will probably make a bait thread)

Being better than Fates is an easy benchmark. Shadows of Valentia's story is genuinely good regardless of Fates. Idiots bring up >muh Celica are the worst though.

>Reach final boss
>For hours I crawl slowly close to the final boss, struggling with terrain and infinitely spawning enemies
>Finally get there
>Boss crits and I get a game over
I haven't touched it in half a year, but maybe I should give it another try sometime.

Sounds like Echoes with its shit cutscenes and trash story

They put a lot of effort into mechanics and cutscenes and probably the soundtrack. Two months before the release they remember how they have to make a story.
I agree. I wish they put as much effort into the story.

Isn't sad how even Smashfags hate FE. If I was a FEfag I would kill myself by now

>the "samefagging shitposter calls everyone who disagrees with him a shill" episode

I could also bring up how utterly retarded Rudolph's whole plan was if you like. Or how it pulled a "Your birthright doesn't matter oh wait yes it does!"

>Shadows of Valentia's story is genuinely
Yeah genuinely shit

Fates soundtrack is actually extremely forgettable.
I don't remember anything besides Azura's Song and its 300 variants, and I guess the generic Japanese instruments of Hoshido but nothing specific

Fates raped me.

Because its true. Notice how desperate you people are to bump quickly

It’s not well made I hope no one subjects themselves to that frustration

>Let's check this Fire Emblem Echoes thread, surely nothing wrong can happen
>Fatesfag at the third post

This is why Yea Forums needs IDs.

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You mean Conquest exclusively, right? Because Birthright and Revelations would need to be rebuilt from the ground up in terms of maps as well as story.

Even Conquest would need to redo maps like Rainbow Sage, The Black Pillar, Eternal Stairway, and the first half of the final chapter. Maybe some others.

Maybe play a better game that's not a rotten piece of shit

Awakening's only two memorable tracks are Id Purpose and Don't Speak her name.
The rest is just a blank I can't recall from memory, I'd have to listen to them again to go "oh yeah, it's this song"

>Idiots bring up >muh Celica are the worst though.
>idiots who bring up the other half of the story are the worst though.

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It's the only "difficultly" the game offers.

Echoes OST is pretty based.
youtu.be/1JO04wBoHQY
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youtu.be/QJzRSxGILQQ
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youtu.be/JrfutC6DDq8
youtu.be/S5YGxMjywSk

At this point I just open these threads to watch him sperg the fuck out like an autist being touched by a cattle prod. I don't reply to him. The fact that there's people who disagree with him is vindication enough for me.

This entire site would be better if it had IDs.

I loved youtu.be/eqvM63tUz2Q

It's the best game on 3DS in everything except map design (in which it's still better than Awakening and Revelations)

Awakening is the literal FE game in the series.

From best to worst:

>Shadow Dragon
>Genealogy of the Holy War
>Thracia 776
>Tear Ring Saga
>Berwick Saga
>Mystery of the Emblem
>Shadows of Valentia
>Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light
>New Mystery of the Emblem
>Gaiden
>Radiant Dawn
>Sacred Stones
>Conquest
>Binding Blade
>Blazing Blade
>Path of Radiance
>Birthright
>Revelation
>Awakening

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Congratulations, you replied to Conquestfag who's going to tell you they're all shit.

No one can counter that this game is bad. It's true and will always will be.

Did I tell you to reply to me retard?

Don't worry, brainlet, Fates is shit too, just like your precious Echoes.

What do you think I've been doing for the last six months?

To be honest, it doesn't matter if almost every single encounter you have to hear has youtube.com/watch?v=tBb1EsfnII4
Getting rid of dynamic music was a mistake.

I mentioned what I thought about revelation's maps in

>oh no my shill thread was ruined fuck!

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I just find it sad that Echoes-kun spends literally every single waking second of their life to shit on Echoes on Yea Forums. 95% of people who will play it have already played it, and most of that 5% isn't lingering on Yea Forums to listen to Echoes-kun. Seriously Echoes-kun, get a life.

>leaving battle animations enabled

>genealogy of the 5 turns moving units across the empty map with no combat in between war

kys, Kagatard

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But I'm also a Conquestfag and a Fire Emblem fag.

Stop posting

I'm the guy you replied, and it looks like he's getting pretty desperate here

>Shados Dragon best
>Radiant Dawn that low
>Ranks TearRing and Berwick but not Vestaria
No

but muh horse kick.

Rudolf's plan makes perfect sense for his idealogy.

>the world is fucked if things continue as they are
>therefore, mankind must prove itself
>I will become the devil for humanity to rise up against
>if they can't defeat me, so be it

People forget that he's still the villain. Like, even if his intentions are good, he's still the villain of the game.

They're idiots because they think it's bad.

Stop making your fucking shill threads already.

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Battle animations in Echoes are pretty great though.

I figured. Dude is hilariously obsessed.

I'm honestly surprised at how good the Echoes OST was. Other than the same themes repeating during the first three acts, they all made a perfect job of putting you in the mood for a battle.

I disagree with dynamic music. When I played Awakening it was a nice novelty at the beginning, but later I just wanted to listen to the actual songs.

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Havent' played Vestaria.

Dynamic music is shit.

>two replies within the same minute
>must be one person
Learn how to Yea Forums

>People forget that he's still the villain. Like, even if his intentions are good, he's still the villain of the game.
He also wanted to show that there was something more behind the corruption of Valentia because of the cult.

>Holy meme that high
>Fucking Tear whatever not FE
>FE3 over FE12
>Echoes that high
>FUCKING FE1 THAT HIGH
>FE12 that low
>FUCKING GAIDEN THAT HIGH
>RD that low
>CQ that low
>FE6 and 7 that low
>PoR that low
Your list is a fucking mess and you have massive shit taste.

>actually defending Rudolfs 4D cheese plan.

Still not worth watching every time.

>Learn how to Yea Forums
If you have a pass you can post more frequently.

I'm surprised at how you can like fucking garbage

Not him but FE3 is better than FE12.

doot a cute

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Kris raped me.

No, it isn't, storyfag, get the fuck over it.

This is even more apparent in the original Gaiden where Duma is not a mad dragon at all. He's perfectly sane but he's realized where he and Mila failed. So he conspires with Rudolf. He gives Falchion to Rudolf to seal Mila and start a war where Heroes will rise up. Duma serves as the 'final boss' by testing Alm's worth. The whole final battle is not Alm defeating a mad god but rather Duma testing Alm's worthiness to lead Valentia into a new age.

Nah man the story is totally good. Alm literally covering his hand and has a fucking gauntlet on and Berkut somehow manages to see it isn't stupid, or literally the first thing you do after Alm becomes the leader is instantaneously capable of taking Zofia Castle, with no build-up, tactics discussion or even explanation as to how the Deliverance can suddenly push back after having been the underdogs throughout the entire conflict.

Having your map music interrupted for shitty battle music is awful though. Dynamic music was great because it wasn't suddenly interrupted for something you didn't want to hear for the billionth time such as youtube.com/watch?v=Hi7Lea2tifU or youtube.com/watch?v=tBb1EsfnII4
Meanwhile, having a seamless transition from the normal version of the song to a more intense version and back was great.

Fucking explain yourself rather than just calling it shit.

Based as in shit? Becasue that's what it is. 90% of it's boring, repetitive, and lacks any real melody without focusing entirely on the beats, leading to a rather messy music tunes and awful dissonance.

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I think they changed Echoes to be more that the cult made Duma mad. Gaiden had less dialogue, so the story came out different there. But I prefer the notion of being tested since Duma does literally nothing against you through the whole game. It's just Jeddah being an ass.

No they fucking werent

>Having your map music interrupted for shitty battle music is awful though.

I totally agree and there's no reason why IS still hasn't added an option to turn off battle music, at least during your turn. But my point stands that after a while, the novelty of dynamic music ends feeling annoying and I'd rather keep listening to the Ablaze themes during the whole map's lenght.

Tear Ring Saga is more than most actual FE games.
FE3 is better than FE12. Aside from ruining a perfectly good story, the gameplay isn't that great in FE12.
Echoes is good.
FE1 is an amazing game. It was pretty revolutionary and it still absolutely holds up.
Radiant Dawn and PoR are far too tedious for a modern game and it's more than just the enemy phases taking forever that's the issue.
Conquest is vastly overrated. It has 5 good maps and is filled with terrible ideas like combining the weapon triangle with other weapons, the stupid weapon debuff system, attack/guard stance being awful mechanics, an overabundance of busy work that needs to be done, a skill system that's far too much, etc.

I feel the same way about it. The story and characters are some of the worst in the series and the gameplay wasn't anything special. If it wasn't for Revelations being so bad 6 would be the worst game in the series.

Echoes was shit
>BUT FATES
Also shit

>FE1 is an amazing game. It was pretty revolutionary and it still absolutely holds up.
While I agree it was an amazing game for its time, it hasn't aged well. But that's usually what happens when you try to make a complex game on an 8 bit system.

>Tear Ring Saga is more than most actual FE games.
Don't even need to read the rest of your dogshit post to know you are literally mentally disabled

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>and it still absolutely holds up.
Not even SD holds up today.

This is honestly one of the best tracks in the series.

No it's not.

It's shit because the map music is boring while the battle music goes overboard in trying to make everything sound epic. Obviously, there are exceptions that work great. Still, most of the music is not handled well. And the absence of enemy phase music is a travesty, especially given Fates' whole gimmick of opposite kingdoms. Take the track Justice RIP. It's decidely Hoshidan sounding but it's actual use in the game is fairly random. Imagine during Nohr versus Hoshido maps (which is obviously most of the game), they used Nohr music during Nohr phase and Hoshidan for the Hoshidan phase. Genealogy does this extremely well with faction specific music. Most other games in the series didn't enough of these types of battles to justify something like this but Fates did and it dropped the ball.

Is it the same autistic guy being overly negative posting all the time?

Your "idea" and explanation sounds like garbage. FEfags shouldn't be giving suggestions for anything

Imagine being this stupid. Shadow Dragon is amazing. FE1 is also amazing but Shadow Dragon has the advantage of introducing quality of life features like denoting when enemies don't move by marking their movement as '-', instantly toggle enemy ranges, skip enemy phase with a single button press, etc. Too many to list.

Yes

Echoes is the best Fire Emblem on the DS right now.

That's impressive when you consider they didn't even change the shitty map design.

echoes was clearly for girls.

It's not

Makes sense. See how all its defenders are muh feelings

Too bad you have shit taste. Fates having actual effort put into how it utilized its features would have been great, even if the story remained a shitshow. Right now, it's stuck being bad at both.

Conquest is better.

Good argument, but waifus don't make a game good (it's the opposite, in fact)

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If I had shit taste I would pretend Echoes is good in any capacity. Course not

>battle music goes overboard in trying to make everything sound epic
You mean kind of like this ear rupturing piece? youtube.com/watch?v=bxMif0FgBp8

I also agree that some of the implementation of fates music seemed random, but I heavily dislike enemy phase music, like the one posted earlier. Although, at least they shook it up every so often rather than SoV which played the same songs for every single map on the respective side.

What argument is there? The game is always dismantled as being bad with no counter to it.

Woah there kid sit down and chill down.
People have different taste.

>All this hate on Fates

Birthright is literally just Awakening+, gameplay wise. Storywise it's not as good but it's pretty par for the course.

Conquest has also had some of the most fun maps in a while. Sure the story is absolute fucking ass, but overall the story for all three branches of the game is mediocre at best.

I don't understand the hate. My biggest gripe with Fates aside from the story (and some characters being insufferable) is that the Royals are so mind-numbingly OP. Especially Ryoma and Takumi.

No counters necessary if the arguments were terrible to begin with.

What different taste you like shit games. Simple.

>I didn't find them much different than usual
They are literally retarded and just conga into you, those near death just ignore everything around the player and head right to a heal spot, and there can even be a guy with 1 HP left right in front of them but literally just moves away from him (even if they have no fear of counterattack), and the AI sends EVERYONE near death, often not accounting for the limited healing spaces if they don't have healers. Or the retarded witches that make no sense
>The game probably has the best soundtrack in the franchise
Ah yes shovelware shit that doesn't use its score at all like having unique themes for each encounter. 40% of the listening time having to bear though the same garbage repetitive tracks that play over and over.
>Was fine to me.
And you are a fucking retard? Point. Notice how you use subjectivity because you can't challenge objective truth
>I liked them.
Doesn't change they are. What is with FEfags not being able to handle objectivity
>Animations were better than in Fates and Awakening
Not with those weightless attacks, all bow and magic shots, and no unique starting animation
>I disagree
No one gives a shit that that you disagree, they are fucking terrible
>Not sure what you mean.
Play the game you stupid bitch

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Awakening is worse though. Both in story and gameplay.

>make op characters
I did this my first play through and the game got real boring.
Is it fun deploying units with no strategy, watching the same animation over and over again?

Yeah like saying Echoes is good which is objectively wrong

The only thing objectively wrong is you.

I'm with you there. Birthright is a pretty average FE game. Conquest has the best gameplay in the series, but shit story. Revelations is fucking awful though, no redeeming qualities. I'd say Fates overall is average.

It's a good game. FEfags hate good games. Why do you think they jerk off bad games like TRS, Holy War, and Echoes?

>im always right
>if you disagree, you are just wrong
I see you have advanced autism.
Its okay user.

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Boy I sure do love the Fire Emblem fanbase, I wonder what they're up to-
>Sees this thread

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If that was true than Echoes wouldn't be proven to be a bad game in every aspect. How desperate are you to shill your shit game with a fucking awful story and music that makes your ears bleed?

The FE fandom has lost their goddamn minds in the past few years.

>throwing around the word "objectively"
>don't show any kind of "objective" facts
>keep adding your own subjective opinions

what are you 12?

It's not been proven to be bad though. The only thing that's been proven is how stupid you are.

Could be worse. Could have been /feg/.

Yeh the FE fanbase continuously proves how fucking awful it is.

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Yes? There is no disagreement, just the retards who pretend shit games are good

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Echoes was that bad, it rotten their brains

Echoes was grand, really looking forward to seeing which classic FE game gets the echoes treatment next

Funny part is, it is probably only a few old school fans going apeshit.

What a pointless fucking reply

At least they're not talking about heroes

It's just one idiot with a hate boner and no skill for making actual arguments.

Yes it has. Read thread

But what if youre the retard?

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yea I would mostly agree with this
go back to kindergarten

I would say Awakening is definitely worse gameplay wise, because it's so ridiculously easy to be OP without even trying. Magic is so broken in it you don't even have to try to kill things without wrecking everyone.

I would say story wise I enjoyed Awakening more, personally. I thought the dynamic between Robin and Chrom was a lot more natural and sincere, and a LOT of the units had WAY better personalities in general, like Sully, Lissa, and Frederick.
Also, Garon is literally just a generic bad guy in Birthright. At least in Awakening Gangrel has a reason for being a dick and Walhart was just trying to conquer everything for the sake of stability.

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Indeed.They need to stop allowing incels in

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Old school fans like Echoes just fine though. The only one going apeshit is the single idiot with no arguments.

I blame Shadow Dragon haters.

>Echoes was grand
How can shit gameplay be grand?

I hope it's 4

This. Start talking about anything else but heroes on /feg/ and they will derail the thread until whoever dared to talk about other FE games leaves.
Biggest panic /feg/ had was when people proposed to split up the general into fire emblem and fire emblem heroes.
I mean in general and not just for echoes.

You literally can't counter that the aspects of the game. otherwise you would have done so

Fates is free to shit in its own backyard if it wants but Awakening is actively fucking with Archanea's lore.

That can't be further from the truth, if it was Echoes would be a good game

>can't counter that the aspects of the game.
Why is your English as poor as your arguments?

>I
Christ you are pathetic. Everything stated was true, you can only focus on "muh maps"

And watch them not fix the shit gameplay

Awakening story is shit regardless if it's better than dogshit

4 had good gameplay my man

this is the worst thing I've ever seen with my poor eyes

I don't agree with you, but I respect your opinion.

When you have such a high IQ you don't focus on petty things.

You gotta be joking.

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Fair enough, I'm glad we could be civil about this

I donno you sound very emotional and autistic to say the least.
I think you should take your autism pill and think about this a little more.

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Shadow Dragon is the best one though. And Awakening is the worst one.

Imagine respecting the mentally disabled

do you just not know how to form an argument?

Not at all, shills just love making this thread every single saturday

Celica is still a shit character

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I too enjoy watching one unit solo entire brigades of enemies with ease for minutes on end, so fun and strategic.

Maybe your intelligence is just too lacking that you can't form a coherent sentence?

go back to kindergarten

Do you not know how to read a thread and then post your pointless subjective statement like it fucking matters?

Based

Might add, it did add one of the best aspects of the newer games which are the skills which made building characters a lot more fun. So I can understand why people liked it. But personally I don't think it aged very well in terms of the huge maps and that old school slow combat.

but muh waifu

I refuse to accept your statement, about 70% of the maps were plain landscapes with two rows of enemies at the other side, and the enemy units that spawned in the map were a chore while trying to do the "side-quests", why would you put enemies in the overworld when you already got the dungeons?

Not even Fates' mess of a story and waifu pandering made me drop the game 2/3 through the story like Echoes did.

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Literally true for every game. Not even exaggerating. Except mabye FE5 and FE12.

>Old school fans like Echoes just fine though
Speak for yourself, I don't, I fucking hate Echoes. Unlike Awakening and Fates, you people eat it up, you act like retards and pretend it's good, you want IS to make more games like Echoes, you want more garbage, just because "at least it's not Awakening and Fates lol"

If that was truth I would pretend Echoes was good.

It wasn't a very good game from a gameplay perspective, but the presentation and story were top notch. It'd be a great game, maybe even the best FE game, if the gameplay were better.

Yea Forums has the worst opinions on anything Fire Emblem related, the only value FE threads have in this place is due to the fact that sometimes somebody posts some hard-to-find quality art

No user we gotta be respect. You cant shit on bad games

>using Elise as a healer
>instead of making her a witch and taking advantage of her insane mag growth

What a pointless reply Echoescuck

Something incredibly bland.
it's not better than leaving with a good impresion, but it's miles better than leaving with buyer's remorse and regretting your decisions.

You don't have to pretend. SoV is good while your intelligence is quite lacking.

Or sperge like you should stop sperging out everytime people make these threads.
We get it.

That was not the point of my post.
You know that, don't do that user.

>DONT FIGHT
>DONT DEFEND YOURSELF
>YOU SHOULD HAVE LET THE ARMY BUTCHER YOUR VILLAGE AND MURDER EVERYONE
>NO ITS FINE FOR ME TO KILL PEOPLE
Fuck Celica

Very true for 5

>the presentation and story were top notch.

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but muh story

It would have made more sense if she just said it was her burden to bear, but I can't recall her saying that once. Just complaining over how Alm is doing the same shit as she do.

Makes sense, people actually pretend Holy War and Echoes are good

Yeah you do, these threads love pretending Echoes is good.

Stop making these fucking shill threads already. You don't get anything.

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But she's hot!!!! It's okay for her to be a poorly written piece of shit!

>72 posters
>413 replies
No one likes you Echoes-kun. Plenty of people dislike Echoes but I can tell exactly which posts are yours from how autistic you are.

>Making a thread defending a shit game.
>Making a thread about a modern FE game.
>Making a thread about FE that isn't waifuposting.

You were literally asking for this since the start.

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Reminder that Conquest is the best FE in the series

Bad games will never get discussion. You fucking deserve it bitch.

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Actually, Sacred Stones is the best one

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>We need to stop our important journey to murder all these bandits and pirates, just think about how they are terrorizing the people
>HOW DARE YOU FIGHT AGAINST THE KNIGHTS TERRORIZING THE PEOPLE
Bitch needed to be slapped

The Fire Emblem fanbase is all kinds of retarded to the point is hilarious to watch their shenanigans. I can't think of any other franchise with such a divisive fanbase, other than maybe Pokemon and their genwar fags.

Heroes alone has proven how incredibly retarded people can be, as shown with the whole Legendary Lyn fiasco.

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FE8 is one of the worst games in the series

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Genny is a miracle of the universe.

>stop making these threads
Good sir, are you implying that i make these threads or even like echos?
Nay, echos is far from my favorite fe, but i do not sperg out like you sir.
Just accept and move on different people have different preferences.

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She's a shit character in a shit game. How fucking low are your standards?

Probably because you praise bad games as being good

There's no way you're gonna be able to pull that off in Shadow Dragon until super late game. And you forgot FE6. Also FE5 has Dagdar if you're gonna argue the other games have it as well. But anyway in FE4 at least half the cast can do that from minute one and it's obviously intended in 4 due to holy blood and enemies coming in huge packs.

Based

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I don't know if this is pure nostalgia blindness or just shit taste.
Also:
>Fates higher than Awakening.
>RD under Gaiden.

Why?

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What are you even saying in this reply? It's fucking worthless

Yeah, it was ok.

More like cringe you delusional faggot cuck. Slice your throat

>tfw FEH threads on Yea Forums are better than actual FE threads and actually talk about the game
Well, when there isn't a poll or anything involving Camilla anyways.

He unironically thinks TRS is good

It's not

Hello Conquest-kun

In retrospective, Celica was the Mila equivalent to Jedah, reason why both were incredibly fanatic in their reasoning:

>We need gods to cater to all of our needs
>humanity can't survive without gods
>we god followers are right and anyone who opposes us has no idea what they're doing

Hell, Celica could be easily considered as the head villain by Rigel if you turned things upside down. So yeah, she was as bad as Jedah, just as he didn't care if the whole world was burnt to ashes if Duma willed it, Celica only wanted mommy Mila to fix everything so people didn't need to lift a finger ever again.

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What im trying to say is...
FE 7 IS THE BEST FE AND EVERYTHING ELSE IS TRASH

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FE8 is as bad as awakening and the only reason why it doesn't catch shit is because there is no MU in it.

>not putting conquest at the bottom
baka

>mfw giving her a Draco shield

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Fuck off thanks

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Echoes represents how hypocritical FEfags are.
They constantly bitch about how bad Awakening and Fates are, which would be a good thing. But FEfags are retarded, they don't hate those games because they're bad, they hate them because they're popular and Echoes is the perfect proof of this, because that game is a fucking mess just like Awakening, but FEfags will pretend that it's good, why? Because it's a remake, a remake from an old game. FEfags are mad at the popularity Awakening brought, they hate how no one gave a shit about the franchise before that game, so now they shit on every new game, not because they're bad (which they are, mind you) but simply because they're new.
3H is coming next, even if it ended up being a masterpiece, FEfags wouldn't care, they would say it's shit, they would nitpick every minor flaw, and they would wait for a remake of FE4, and by remake I mean the same garbage game but with better graphics, like Echoes.

I know right? Shame she only has one single support and only if you spare Sonya. At least she married second best boy.

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Excuse me I gotta take a Sacred Stones
HIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
*plop*

Know what right? What even is her personality? Oh wait she has none

>so lazy he can't do it himself

Cringe

Why would I?

Based and truthpilled

8 is shit but its not as bad as Awakwning

If you want us to die, you have to put some effort into it.

Because FEfags are just one massive collective with a singular opinion, right?

Should i spend 20 bucks on FEH or 20 bucks for a new copy of Shadows of Valentia?

Did you seriously miss the whole point? She's only angry at Alm because she doesn't want him to fight because of her vision. She's literally anything she can to make him stop so that her vision doesn't come true. Even all that stuff about accusing Alm of wanting to be king is part of that. This is made explicitly clear in Gaiden where she outright says she was cold to him because of her vision.

moblieshit or a shit game like Echoes you shouldn't play? Pick your poison

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The game is the blacksheep of the series for a reason, the fact that remake didn't fix most of the game's problem to me was mind boggling.

Or you could just kill yourself for being a worthless waste of oxygen

Neither. You should never spend on gacha and you can easily inject the SoV cia if you have your 3DS modded. If you really don't feel like pirating, then buy it. It's an ok game.

Fates at least attempted to fix the various problems with Awakening's broken gameplay. They failed but its still a marginal improvement over Awakening. The story of Awakening is also so fucking retarded. The whole game is a pointless chase of the Fire Emblem and the 5 spheres but turns out that Grima didn't need them anyway since he simply revives himself just because. The whole fucking story is pointless and just fucks with Archanea's lore.

Like I said, find me and do it. Otherwise I will continue.
youtube.com/watch?v=lsz5ijRQvUY

>it's an ok game.

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The problem comes from Azura’s bullshit crystal ball that she only bothered to show Corrin. If she waited until the next time they were all together it wouldn’t be an issue.

FEfags definitely are a hivemind

I'd get Valentia, but that's because I have excessive amount of units in FEH.
They need to increase the cap from 1100 to 1500

Or you could just kill yourself with no need for assistance

Of course you would shill for a bad game

Suit yourself.
youtube.com/watch?v=CzKptJ9VIiE

For the DLC's you need Galeforce otherwise it's just gravy since there is no challenge even without hyper eugenics
literally every FE thread for a week has had this guy. He gets buttmad at people shitting on Fates then even if you try to argue some of the points he says you didn't

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but muh waifu

Go do it yourself, faggot. Don't complain otherwise.

Why aren't you turning your units into manuals?

>If she waited until the next time they were all together it wouldn’t be an issue.
No, because the other royals wouldn't believe it. Especially Xander, it'd just put you on his shit list and think Azura is a traitor trying to make him commit patricide and usurp the throne and you're being brainwashed.

Why does posting a shit track have to do with you needing to kill yourself

I am. I have over 300 manuals I think.

Objective FE rankings:
BSFE is the only good one. And not the remake, I mean the original with voices. Good luck playing that now though faggot, you missed out. And you think you're qualified to talk about FE, fuck outta here.

Or you could just kill yourself already

Based

The effect the localization had on the quality of the game is not even worth mentioning.

>all this vitriol
I just like the games. What the fuck is wrong with you all? The amount of autism and sperginess ITT is fucking unparalleled. Jesus.

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Everything stated there is objective truth. echoes is shit, and doesn't change Awakening is a bad grind game.

It's just one guy

Jesus, I haven't even read most of it but I can already tell this is yet another Echoes vs Fates thread. I miss the times when mainline FE threads talked about pre 3DS FE and even I love Conquest and like Echoes and Birthright.

Anyone remember gaiden chapters that were unlockable back in 5, 6 and 7? Yeah they should bring those back in TH.

It's just one guy that's sperging out. It's fun to egg him on.

>I just like the games
Pathetic

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Wait so Revelations wasn't the true ending? What's all this about a 'true antagonist'?

You act surprised about this every thread.

Pretty sure Anankos in Revelation and Anankos in the True ending DLC is the same one.

It was a faithful recreation, which means the gameplay still sucked, but had small crutches to help it. The VN and art, however, was fantastic.
Now if only they do the same with a FE that has good gameplay...

It's the opposite actually. These are daily laughter threads watching Echoescucks make up shit about their game and scramble to defend it. One of the best is, "the music is good"

>paying for a 3DS game and DLC
Guess Radiant series are the worst games in the franchise because they can't be had for less than like 300 dollars.

Just check every single FE thread, especially anyone mentioning Echoes. Is one single massive autists shitposting the whole thread to death. Many of us at this point can already recognize him from his post style alone.

But yeah, just enjoy the games, FE threads in Yea Forums are pretty much dead on arrival at this point bar FE Heroes, but even those are on a slow death with how bad the game has been managed as of recently.

Okay the maps in the franchise aren't that bad nor were frequently bad to never appeal to someone at least one time.