It took me seven hours to get dash and walljump, but finally things are getting good

It was all a terrible nightmare. It took me 8 hours.

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Fuuuug, same thing happened to me

Me

>He STILL didn't change his charms

You're surely stubborn, but grats

I*

Told ya. Persistence unmatched.

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Good luck

>first platformer
The fuck? How old are you?

Not him but I'm OP and this is my first metroidvania if you don't count 15min of super Metroid and I am 29

The good is gonna get gooder. Grinding down the lost kin way to earlier was one of the most fun I had in ages.

You brought it on youself. Welcome to the big leagues, kid

Also not him but this is also my first metrovania. I'm 23.

The only metroidvanias I played before this one were Megaman zx and zero. I played ori after this one, and loved them both. 22

Have you looked into Salt and Sanctuary?
>it's literally Dark Souls controls on a platformer

A regular enemy ascended to boss status. He deserves it. Also, his dream nail dialogue is rad as fuck.

* Ahem *
Fuck Zote and fuck moths!

Thank you

>tfw died to these lads more times than HK and Radiance combined on the first playthrough

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Is this the only game Reddit and Yea Forums agree it's good???

I hear people talking about ori a lot. Is it as good as HK?

Thanks for the recommendation user, it looks cool

Different. Ori is more linear, floaty, lots of platforming, and he moves like hornet in silksong instead of the knight. It is also pretty and awesome, but different from HK so you cant really compare them

Aight, I'll check it out. Danke schön.

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As much of a dickhead as he may be, I respect Zote.

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Goodbye

So you can take the infection into your body and not lose your mind, right? The Queen's Garden Mantises and the Soul Sanctum seem to have done it in their search and lust for power.

>Finally get down to being able to beat Zote, NKG, PV and AR multiple times in a row in the Hall of Gods
>Cant bring myself to attempt it all in the Pantheon due to cowardice

You don't have a body
You're solid void

The infection seems to work more like a demonic possession. If youre strong of will, you can resist it for longer, but you WILL succumb to it. Thats why the traitor lord and traitor mantises were booted out. Doesnt help that mantises by nature are a warrior cult and dont like cheating to get stronger

Is he really hard?

Dr. Fetus sold all his sawblades to the king.

I fucking did it bros. Just destroyed pantheon of hallownest, seriously Fuck AR , At least i found a way to cheese the last phase. Thanks to all the anons who supported me yesterday, to all the others still trying NEVER GIVE UP

>but you WILL succumb to it
I'm not sure this is true. The Soul Sanctum bugs didn't even know they were affected by the Radiance.

I 100%d the game but it took me 106 hours to get all achievements.

I hate that I love this game so much and would buy anything from team cherry.

Good on you user. At the fourth pantheon, trying to complete the charm binding for the third to get more lifeblood so my casual ass might last longer. Damn this hell

It looks like some bugs can resist being turned into mindless puppets, but they still constantly hear voices and see "inspiring" dreams. Soul researchers and mantis trators might think their motivations are their own, but to a large extent they are planted in their heads by the Radiance.

My favorite boss fight was soul master, and i think the only upgrade at that point was dash

You need walljump to reach the city.

>opening up a wiki before you complete as many endings as you can with the knowledge you have
fucking retard

Does Path of Pain unlocks different ending or just the cutscene?

Just the cutscene. No achievement either. I like that because the only joy you get out of it is the satisfaction of overcoming the pain you've forced upon yourself.

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What do you use? Keyboard r controller

I use a xbox controller, although its dpad is shit for this kind of game. I kept fucking up my pogo during the PoP. Other areas are more forgiving but PoP was brutal.

>almost 100% the game
>don't finish it for some reason
>dlcs and updates add new things
>probably have the go through all the map again in order to experience it

Might as well just start another playthorugh from scratch, any ideias on how to make it more fun? Maybe I should just wait for silksong?

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That's what I thought.

That's it, I'm buying a DualShock 4, this fake 360 controller is not gonna cut it

Did it with keyboard. Controls are simple, timing is a bitch

What's your jump key?

It's still doable, I was able to go through it, it's just harder.

Now climb back up out of Dirtmouth, Find Cornifer and follow his advice.

The devs. That should be enough.

use WASD for movement and JKL; for Nail, Jump, Dash and Quickcasting respectively.

Z for dash, C for attack, X for jump. Played this game right after I finished replaying X5 for nostalgia purposes, and got used to the controls

I can't wait to play Hornet's game, though June 20 2020 is pretty far.

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I stopped playing when I couldn’t beat the Trial of Fool or whatever it’s called. Think I’m ready to start a new game now.

Now do it all bindings you casual :3c

I'm having trouble with it too.

This guy was an asshole.

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no nail upgrades

>any ideias on how to make it more fun?
Just try a different route this time, and you can change your playstyle even if you want.
I'm personally about to start a Steel Soul run focused on a magic build without upgrading the nail.

He was god-king, blessed/cursed with foresight. Conventional morality doesn't mesh well with characters that have minds beyond our own.

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Cool.
Where you at now? City of Tears, to get Nail +1 and Ground Pound?
Crystal Peak, to get Super dash?
Deepnest, because you're a badass and nobody can stop you?

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>you will never fuck a fully delitized giantess and have so many babies that you can fill an entire abyss with their corpses
It hurts bros

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How big do you think PK dick is?

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Small but potent. Balls so large you'd need two hands to hold 'em. Doesn't come like a hose, doesn't come like a volcano, comes like God's Wrath. Literally 0 refractory period too.

They fuck in the dream world, where his dick is Wyrm sized.

How do you know it’ll be released on that daye?

There's something about the queen that makes my dick diamonds.

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Pic related has convinced some people of that. I think it's bullshit desu. Probably just a mistake.

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It's because she's the thiccest being in the game. Thiccer than the Godseeker even.

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Trying to open the bridge to city of tears

>Can beat Ascended Zote hitless in the HoG
>Die to him every time in Pantheon of Hallownest
>Instantly go back into the Hall of Gods and continue wrecking his shit.

I don't understand

Are you using the same charms?

Not him, but i'm at his point. I was going straight to Deepnest after clearing the mantis village easily, but that guy with the helmet told me to go to the city for nail smithing. Got raped by tho

Even TC said not to expect it this year

It's the nerves. Even if you have beaten a boss hundreds of times they will still be much harder than in the hall of gods. Your brain knows that failing to beat that boss will set you back half an hour and start flooding your body with adrenaline.

>Delitized

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Which one, the one that summons flying balls to attack you or the wimp one?
If it's the wimp one, just dodge his attacks. Every last one of them is so telegraphed you'd swear you were playing by snail mail.
If it's the one that summons balls, he has more hp. You can come back to him later, though he is easily doable at that part in the game.

Hell, speedrunners sit on the bench after Soul sanctum, go get the Dream nail and do Soul Tyrant with 4 charm slots, 5 masks, and Nail + 0.

Yep, exact same setup. Knowing i'm close to the end and don't have a problem with Failed Champion and NKG makes it worse. If I get to Zote, I can make it to AR where I have an 80% success rate. He's just my wall.

>being walled by zote
I shouldn't laugh, given that I'm being walled by -sly- of all fucking things, but ... I laughed

Seriously, literally, unironically, non-facetiously delete that my man.

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Fuck that shit , for as much i'd like to try i still got to do the speedruns and DMCV is out in a week user( also AR is a very bad fight pure vessel and nightmare king grimm are 10 times more enjoyablr while still being relatively difficult)

Currently little bit stuck at traitor mantis boss, gotta just give it more tries but first one that i actually have little bit trouble.

It's just annoying and random. I'd rather fight NKG with no charms than Zote because of it

>speedrunners
does not count

4 slots, nail+0 and starting masks here
Just got him, after 2 deaths, about as hard as the girl bug i'd say

You should have nail + 1 if you're in city of tears. Head down and left.
It's a bit of a backtrack if you're already in soul sanctum but you'll do more damage.
Do you have Soul catcher? that charm might be handy for the upcoming Soul Master fight.
When he summons the 4 lightning orbs that orbit around him, that's when you can get a couple of heals off.

>game crashes when quit to menu with native controller on
>can't really make it obey my layout with native controller off

what do?
tried launching with Steam (controller mapped) and alone

Also first metroidvania, I'm 29

Nintendo is mostly US thing, we in Europe already played on PCs while we were kids, therefore most people here dont even know wtf is a Metroid or Castlevania. The platformers that I did play when I was a kid was like Jazz Jackrabbit.

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>Nintendo is mostly US thing
>people here dont even know wtf is a Metroid or Castlevania
I don't know what backwards part of yurop are you in, but what the fuck man.
I'm 27, european too, and nintendo was always big as fuck, specially before the PS2 era. Super Mario and Donkey Kong were practically the most well known video game mascots, everybody had played several nintendo games at some point, half the kids on the 90s owned some type of Nintendo system, and Metroid perhaps not, but Castlevania was famous enough to ring a bell even among the people who don't played vidya.

Fucking hell, I think that may be my biggest typo ever. I don't know why I even bother spell checking my posts, I'm too retarded anyways.

beat mantis lords without any nail upgrades, and go to deepnest without the lantern

>that rich husk in lurien’s room
>fossilized goam
>maskmaker “reveal”
some of the lowkey moments are really underrated

cool, nice tip.
I'm trying to avoid wiki

>upgrade nail
>equip fragile strength
>enter fight with full soul
>still get my shit pushed in
Fuck Mantis Lords, give me some tips so I don't have to spoil myself
please be patient I have autism

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There's no tips at that point. You just have to get better at the fight. You can heal whenever they jump onto the walls to do their combo attack.

Same here, Nintendo wasnt a thing in here at all

Keep exploring, keep practicing.
The first thing that really walls people is Watcher Knights and that's not for a while, though some of the places you can reach will have tougher enemies.
If you find something called a "Simple Key", which you might have done so already, save it.
There are 4 keys in the game and 4 things they can open, but one of the keys comes fairly late.
The most important thing to open is a manhole at the lower part of the City of Tears, as that opens up a whole new area with new loot and equipment.
Other things are less important but still important.

I made this webm a long time ago for someone who had problems with mantis lords too. It's an easy fight, just pay attention to where they place and throw their stuff I made silly mistakes because it was a while the last time I played the game

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Anyone have the post about the Cherry dev talking about primal aspids?

Rather than parking in the middle, I like to park on the right hand side, where you can hit them if they do their boomerang / chakram attack by jumping up and smacking them.

Its not US-only thing, Nintendo was a thing in some of the EU countries, though they were and still are seen as kiddy consoles.

My advice is to avoid the temptation of healing

>but finally things are getting good.
They really don't, the physics are still unsatisfying and stiff like Megaman

It's not very fun to play this game, on top of an obtuse as fuck map.

yeah, it's easier, but I had problems remembering their patterns, so I kept it safe. Besides, if he's having troubles, standing in the middle can help him to recover some mask and take a break

reddit.com/r/gaming/comments/6rvds8/we_are_team_cherry_the_developers_of_hollow/dl80vh9/

Protip for fragile charms:
Press ESC when you're on one mask
Go to the save and quit option
It'll teleport you back to the bench you last sat at, but your charms won't break.

That side lunge attack always fucks me up. I don't think the switch controls are precise enough to consistently pogo it

Beautiful

Central EU. Dunno user, Nintendo wasnt in my country almost at all, we played on playstation and pcs. I didnt even know that Zelda games had any sort of following (or what they even were really) before I started watching Twitch and realized apparently everyone in US is crazy about it.

Great, now you can start with all radiant bosses and PoH

Just roll and attack haha

>crossroads room before grub chamber has a whispering root on the ceiling
>ancestral mound where you get howling spirit has one too
i just found this out what the hell else have i missed

City of Tears is where a lot of people myself included fell in love with Hollow Knight

youtube.com/watch?v=qPsd9nzZ9X4
rainymood.com/

I think you can jump while you press the d-pad down. It accepts the input and you can pogo them

>approach a platform midair
>attack them and get pushed away from the platform
>assume that's what the 'Steady Attack' or whatever charm fixes
>don't want to give up my 'collect all Geo swarm' Jew charm
I'm gonna have exactly enough Geo to buy something important one day and it will all be worth it

Did you find the corpse of the large bug yet?
What about hitting the secret room near Dung Defender with the king's statue?
Did you hit the training dummy 25 times?

There's a better alternative.
Look up (or down) when you swing your nail and you won't be pushed back.
It still has some left-right range.
Steady Body is actually a bit of a shit charm since it reduces your ability to pogo.

nvm

Personally, I prefer to jump over the lunge in the same direction rather than pogoing it, because I can get 2 hits where they stop.

Gonna pirate this shit and see if it as good as you guys say.
Seriously doubt it by the copy/paste OP and responses in every fucking thread.

>Steady Body is actually a bit of a shit charm since it reduces your ability to pogo.
fuck!
I thought something was off

I still use rainymood to get to sleep.
I actually mix the city of tears ambience mp3 I ripped off fucking youtube in sometimes too

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#art

>it affects your pogo
fucking what

Who the fuck put the bench in the Hive inside a fucking cocoon

I fucking only found it after beating Hive Knight, and after running through fucking hell every time to the boss room.

Fuck

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If there's one thing I wish Souls clones didn't copy, it's obscure bonfires before bosses

Sorry to wax off on you but honey it's just there to sweeten the deal, I'm sorry if you're buzzed off.

Be aware that it starts super slow, and only gets good once you start getting movement abilities, which is like 2+ hours in.

YOOOOOOOO

I can't find Fucking Cornifer or a Stag Station in the whole City of Tears

Am I supposed to be stuck in town (and map blind) until I beat some boss or something?

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This
You get a mobility item from jungle land and mushroom land each, and it legitimately changes the entire feel of the game

Keep exploring.
Nailsmith is down left
Soul Sanctum is up right
Rest of it is linear

>Spend hours SEETHING on AR's final phase thinking I need to constantly jump between the two platforms to dodge the balls
>Can just stay on the one platform jumping the balls and shade cloaking whenever there's more than one

Motherfucker. I mean, at least I know now, but God I wish I knew earlier.

I found the dude that buys my stones
(and died)

>needing platforms in the final phase at all

youtube.com/watch?v=_QRklF_pe28

I've been eyeing this game for a while and it seems like a fun thing to sink a lot of time into. With that said, Shovel Knight looked just as fun and I dropped it 3 hours in because I was trying to 100% as I went by (can't remember the details, was it getting all treasures/secrets on a map?).

Should I buy HK or will my autism defeat me once again?

>it only gets good after Hornet
>no! it doesn't get good until the map opens for you
>nah, you have to push it to the City for the game to become good
>I know right? such a slow start
I-I liked the Forgotten Crossroads...

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Mother of God I hope Team Cherry never see this.

>boss where the entire floor is spikes and you have to pogo
I wish.

>he doesn't want to play as a Hornet
How fucking gay can one man get?

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To get everything, you will have to revisit areas after getting an upgrade or two.
The game is chock-full with secrets, both tangible and lore-things, many of which are still unexplained. The game also has a degree of non-linearity so different players will go down different paths and discover different things.
Nothing is missable aside from one portion of Grimm Troupe questline. You can always backtrack for the secrets.

End-game content is for masochists

it gets good when you do

Besides areas that are restricted at first, you are free to explore and come back to the areas later in the game, so you don't have to be pressured in getting everything at once. Personally I liked the pacing of exploring, remembering and finding new stuff in places I thought I knew.

hornet is my favorite character but I don't know if she's gonna work as the main focus like she did as a supporting cast.

oh boy can't wait for the cramps to return

>corpse
the grimm dlc one? yeah
>secret dung room
hold up nigga WHAT?
>training dummy
the descent into hell nearby for that giant geo rock was spookier

is it normal to use the dpad for this kind of thing? I just use the left analog in hollow knight on an old 360 controller

This is ironically #2 Metroidvania of all time after Super Metroid desu.

Why they guarding Hornet in the trailer?

Using the dpad for a game that only has 4 directions is always going to have more precision, no matter what.
Not like it matters much in HK anyway, the dpad is more important when you have 8 directions.
However when the fights got harder in the lategame I would switch to the dpad almost unconsciously, and noticed a considerable improvement for it.

rate my skills, Yea Forums

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GGGGGOOOOOOD WHERE THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSED TO GO I BEAT THE FIRST 2 BOSSES BUT NOW IM FUCKING STUCK

When in doubt, go down.

Which 2 "first" bosses? People tend to miss the Gruz Mother.

Meant to reply to

Very nice

gruz mother was the first one I killed
other one was the big guy, I think false knight or something

What bosses you dumb fuck.
Also look at your map.
Dumb fuck

Jungle and then mushroom

FIND THE SNAIL SHAMAN NEAR THE FALSE KNIGHT ARENA, ACQUIRE SPELL, GO TO THE LEFTMOST ROOM WITH THE GUY THAT YOU CAN'T HIT WITH YOUR NAIL AND SHOOT HIM

And after killing the fat guy, didn't you continue forward and explore the new room?
You're supposed to meet a snail there.

I tried playing it on keyboard, which is effectively very similar to the dpad in terms of layout and function right? It was difficult for me to move around and eventually I swapped back to the gamepad. In other games I almost exclusively use Mouse and Keyboard, only other exception I can think of is Dark Souls

>When in doubt, go down
How to end up in Deepnest with no lantern and nail+0: the post.

Yeah, you need the thing the snail shaman gives you to unlock the next area.
How did you miss him? It's literally the next room that opens after the big knight bossfight.

Chances are he missed the greenpath entrance, not the spell. Happened to me the first time around.

>coming to these threads when you've barely started
I swear some of you people just like to risk it.

What

QUIRREL DIES
CLOTH DIES
MYLA DIES
BRETTA CHEATS ON YOU
HORNET IS YOUR SISTER
SLY IS THE GREAT NAILSAGE

Retards posting here instead of playing the game, you are welcome.

cringe

Seer a cute!

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Someone said earlier that you should back up your savefile before the ending so that you can go back and get the "true" ending later or something like that. I just beat Hornet second time and I'm thinking I might be getting close to the end of the main storyline, at what point am I supposed to do that savefile backup thing?

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I get the feeling her voice actor was having a blast with her character.
>aaaahhhhh
>melemooooohhh

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full nude under skirt hornet figurine model when ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

i dont know who told you that but they didnt know what they were talking about. if you want to see all the endings, what you need to do is beat the game as soon as possible. don't go after extra stuff, go beat the game as soon as you can. after you see the first ending, you can continue your save from right before the final boss and then you can go after extra stuff. but, if you do everything extra first before you beat the boss, you permanently miss out on the first ending.

you're also close to the ending but you still have more to do.

Sometimes she went into ear-rape territory.

>>How to end up in Deepnest
he can't go there by mistake without upgrades like dash and walljump

That is a weird-ass earrape

How the fuck do i get good at the zote 3rd pantheon fight!

His moves are so erratic/random that it is hard to get a time to safely go in on him

Now you have this user having weird thoughts about the plushy Hornet.

Friendly reminder that when you "die" you become the Shade.

A new "knight" gets sent into the game and reaches you eventually, kills you and you return to the void.

This is partly why the Abyss is full of vessels, not just because of the king.

We

Know

This

Thanks user

>ballerinas
>consists of majority women
>you're homo if you're a guy who likes women

Welcome to Valhalla.

Dying to AR in the Pantheon has to be the worst feeling in existence

Dying in luck based fights is not shameful

What the fuck, man.
You can only post those screens in Spanish.

What about being Anthony Burch?

Can Gohan Blanco Forma Verdadera beat Zote?

post cute art

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Alright fuckers, I'm gonna fucking do it.
Wish me luck.
I intend it to be a 100% run too, fuck the kingdom.

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>I intend it to be a 100% run too, fuck the kingdom.
so you want to miss on 12% of the content?

After getting lost a few times I just lost interest in the game tbqh

Id rather do PoH with all bindings before Steel soul
Good luck. Dont die

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Smartass

Okay, it is kinda funny

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Steel Soul is way easier than PoH, especially if you've gotten used to the godmaster content. Fragile Strength + Heart let you plow through everything. I should have used them on first playthrough.

Good luck user.
Aight lads. Taking bets. What fucks him?
Will it be Hornet 1?
Watcher Knights?
Nightmare King Grimm?
Absolute Radiance?

You can cheat Steel Soul pretty easily in most situations. If you hit 1 mask (or 2 if you're in the room with something that does 2 mask damage), save and quit.
I say most, because the game will deny you the esc menu if you're airborne, and I can think of at least two parts of the game where you're airborne long enough to get juggled to death.

What are the best early game charms?

I have 4 notches and I'm using the upgraded spell (3 notches, +33%)...
And sometimes switch it with dash speed + soul catcher

No fragile shit as I die often

NKG, just based on how many complaints he gets.

Unironically fragile shit if you save and quit to bench when low hp.
If not for those:
Grubsong gives you soul when you take damage
Quick Focus lets you heal faster
Wayward Compass helps if you get lost a lot
Gathering Swarm helps you get more dosh, with lets you buy more stuff
Soul Catcher gives you more soul to heal

He thrashed me around for a bit until I found the Dashmaster + Sharp Shadow combo and did most of my damage by going through him.
Still not up to his pantheon fight yet which I won't have those charms for, so that'll be a fun one.

NKG is a dream fight though, doesn't end steel soul run.

I didn't notice it was Steel Soul.

I'm betting my 200 Geo on Trial of the Fool.

I let too many shades go and now I'm broke.

Farming money early game is shitty

>best early game charms?
Gathering swarm for more money. (it's NOT just a QoL item, it can recover money falling off ledges/onto spikes you wouldn't normally get)
Thorns of Agony gives a lot of damage if you get hit a lot. Combine with Grubsong to heal.
Mark of Pride is the best crutch in the game. Also not a crutch since it sometimes allows you to get 2 strikes instead of 1 and makes multihits easier.

Mark of Pride is pretty underrated.
Range is the best shit, there's a reason why polearms reign supreme in the melee world.

>Soul Catcher gives you more soul to heal
I know it's not exactly early game at that point, but I once ran the calcs of the soul recovery equivalency between Soul Twister and the 2 soul gathering charms for a charm guide I was doing some time ago.
As it turns out, Soul Twister is just a bit better than Catcher for the same notches, without counting the bonus of 4 spell shots per full vessel, and the disadvantage of not counting towards healing usage.

So I should head back to the mantises now that I have nail +1

>and the disadvantage of not counting towards healing usage.
If you are new at the game and bad, this is what you will be spending most of your soul on.

You can if you want. They should be doable.

I believe in you

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I understand, I'm just saying, for spell usage, Soul Twister has literally a better soul recovery than Catcher and not many people know this.

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Mantises are a meme boss. Once you learn their patterns, you can easily get them with nail+0 without getting hit once, it just takes forever.

So, how to remove the black fog wall? I usually hate spoilers, but I beat this game back when it was released but can't remember how to do it.

later down the road you'll find an answer for that

Cool family.

Shadow Dash through them.

After Hornet 2 fight you go down the abyss to get the ability that lets you pass through them.

I remember it taking like 30 minutes to 1 hour to get dash and walljump, am i misremembering or something?

is this real wtf

Oh, god is that really it? I was almost sure it waas like that. Just that fight is fucking hard.

Yeah, I guess you're just trolling. I got my Monomon achievement BEFORE the one from second hornet fight.

Because you can get Monomon without passing through a shadow gate, moron. If you are asking for advice, take it.

You can get to Monomon with just Isma's Tear instead.

Doing the speedruns achievement on steel soul was like a breeze after PoH. didn't even rush it but ended up with 40% at 4 hours and a half. Now it s time for the 100% one and then hype train for silksong

Only way I can think of is where there's a plant blocking the way.

It's modded.

I'm generally enjoying this game so far, but some of the open world design choices are not good. And the fact there's only 1 weapon is very disappointing.

> some of the open world design choices are not good

Like what?

Like how I spent 3-4 hours completely clearing the Deepnest only to be met with an empty boss room. Unironically thought my game was glitched and the boss had failed to load.

All in on Watcher Knights

how in the world do you do radiant radiance

you don't get hit and hit her back

dont get hit, eh? i guess i have to be clairvoyant and guess where the needle spam will come from while the screen-wide laser come from both the left and right and the tracking balls are coming for my ass?

Zote plz

what plant

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not him, but pretty much all I have ever played are arena shooters and western RPGs.

Thanks, user. But I checked online the I'sma Tear thing and realized I forget even that. Felt broken and now I'm drinking.

GOD DAMMIT WHEN IS SILKSONG

I NEED IT

I FUCKING NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEED IT

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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>there's people who think this game looks ugly

Hers is a Song of Silk and Fire.

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Well, technically its a different playstyle, but I didn't mean to say "just fuck my shit up".

I guess I will try the magic build or something similar.

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Hows that "open world design choices"?

>Metroidvania

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A man with taste finally. All these waifu faggots fucking love that they'll be able to play as hornet, but Team Cherry has lost one sale at least.

Rad mantle

Because there should be an incentive to exploring? A new ability, an item, a boss, new lore, whatever, SOMETHING! And if there isn't, make the last part of the area inaccesible with some kind of roadblock, like they already do a lot in other areas. The fact you can completely clear Deepnest only to have the area be completely empty is bad design.

>There needs to be a carrot at the end of every stick!
Stick to Fortnite, buddy.

>NKG
>AR
Both are fought in the dreamworld and neither can kill him permanently. Classic radiance on the other hand might ruin his run tho

99% of the time you get massively rewarded for careful exploration in this game, not sure what your point is.

I agree with Deepnest, but that's not a flaw in the open world, it's more a fail on their reward-loop towards the player.
This is a common complain, since there are several areas that were incomplete in the development department. While some of them are obvious that they weren't able to reach their original plans for them (the Abyss, the Hive), I'm not so sure if that's what happened with the second half of Deepnest. However, the fact that Distant Village was apparently the backer town makes me believe it was indeed left incomplete.

Distant Village is an empty disappointment, I was hoping the Hornet DLC added to it, but now that it's gonna be its own game HK is pretty much done.

There is lifeblood nearby.

Top left corner of their room.

>Felt broken and now I'm drinking.
Jesus christ, get ahold of yourself.

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Thats really just one anecdote, like user mentioned above most of the time youre finding tons of shit by exploring. So I wouldnt say any of exploration-related stuff is badly designed in this game.

If I was to look for flaws in HK then I'd say that it's really dumb how you can facetank so many bosses in this game with many different combinations of OP charms, basically you have to be heavily larping to make pre-endgame content challenging at all.

>Dying in any of the trials

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This.

>it took me like 2 hours to get past the second one

In my defense I didnt have wings back then, and the air section were constantly fucking me up.

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In 150+ hours I've never beaten the final trial.
I just can't get past that aerial section where you're crammed in a box with a spiked floor.
Also fuck the path of pain, got maybe 1/4 of the way into that.

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>Didnt finish trial of the fool
>Didnt finish path of pain
>Over 150 hours
I'd tell you to get gud, but it seems youre skillcap is simply too low. Go play some mobile gachashit game and be happy. Accept yourself as the lowly casual scum you are, and dont attempt to be in our ranks again

FAAAAR FUUUNDAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

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the only aceptable time was pre-patch 1.0.0.8

I've got like 18000 Geo and cleaned out the vendors up top, fat badge lady, fragile badge lad, etc. Where do i spend all this Geo?

I have made peace with the fact. that I won't beat Radiance fuck that RNG bullshit

Grim trouppe vendor

Shes a massive fucking jew though, so 18k will only get you started with her shit

I beat all the trials, the pantheons, and the path of pain and I only have 40 hours in my save.

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The japanese side of the fandom is pretty neat.
youtube.com/watch?v=BJWMAOqrbGs

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I admit I had my doubts about the artstyle because the game looks much like flash games but after seeying it in motion and playing I must say I was blown away.

>fell into Deepnest
>no fucking Lantern
>dark, scary and everything is mean
>Cloth and Quirrell fucking lost too
aaaAAAHHHHH GET ME OUT

Great, thanks

I thought the same, until I completely changed my charms to buff spells. Shaman Stone Abyss Shriek can put her in Phase 3 instantly if you have full soul at the start of the fight.

That's korean

thanks user, I will try it

That's korean, you fucking retarded.

>shaman stone + spell twister abyss shriek on flukemarm
easy stress relief

That's Korean, you mong.

Personally, I thought Path of Pain was fun. It took a couple hours, but pretty comfy compared to a lot of kaizo bullshit I've seen in my day.

Okay?
Sorry, i'm a brainlet that only knows english, but at least you watched it, there's a ton of good shit from that general region of the world that doesnt seem to get posted.

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What are the chances we'll get a flashback to babby horny in silksong?

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did you know about the lifeblood cocoon in the mantis lords boss room

I've seen more people nitpick about it looking too cute than complain about it being ugly.

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now I can get to phase 3, I feel like I'm cheating and I'm STILL loosing

Bless this art

Who dat

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ÒwÓ

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hollow knight bossfight is braindead easy
radiance is fucking impossible
epic

i think that's the point

It's almost as if it's not a boss centered game

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Gotchu

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elaborate

Artist is yubi03

That's 100% the point, killing him is a bad end.
Hollow knight is trying to periodically kill himself and mostly flailing around than actually trying to kill you.
Did the sudden music change when he started stabbing himself not clue you in?

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wtf does that have to do with anything

The Hollow Knight is just a vessel to hold the infection in, a husk being controlled by the Radiance, No matter how powerful HK is, The Radiance can only do so much with it, also not to mention that the HK was created to hold the infection IN, not only until it gets near death does it start using attacks that might be threatening
The Radiance is the infection itself with no limits on what it can do

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>Defensor Blanco
Ay ay ay!!!

I thought that he was just insane rather than purposefully killing himself

That's the point, you troglodyte.

Who was next to HK

>bad end is easier than true ending
Ground breaking.

its fucking tedious to go do that bullshit bossfight everytime I want a rematch with radiance

Git gud.

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Pretty much everything else from his pure vessel fight, the fact his shade helps you and his cut dream nail dialogue imply that he's sane, just not 100% in control of his body.

Our boi, note the shape of the horns.

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I'm getting beaten left right and centre but I finally made it to Hornet and she's just kicking my ass

you are clearly missing a page
most things don't go from 2 to 5

did he glitch the game at the end?

... didn't fight with him yet?
Well spoilers here. He is supposed to be a joke character, so he is piss easy to beat

Have fun doing the pantheon of hallownest

nah there's no fight with him that user is fucking with you. anyways make sure to save zote every time you see him

lmao, I tried the first one, first half was braindead easy, other one was actually challenging, died to soul warrior or whatever his name was

Very funny I know you have to fight him like 10 times

It jus seems it pisses more people off than many other bosses

He's not trying to kill himself, he's making extra holes so the Infection can come out.

why does this remind so much of Artorias?

I thought that too

Will the seal have worked for eternity if we didn't open the egg???

The seal didn't work though.

For some reason my in game achievements suddenly broke. The achievements menu is blank, and reloading any save makes all of its achievements pop up at once, but doesn't add them to the title screen menu. What gives? I had them all, and it worked fine early today.

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The seal wasn't perfect, the infection is already leaking when the game starts.

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Why didn't the Pale King just fuck Radiance?

>Getting hit.
HOLY SHIT

You are approaching true hell.

The seal isn't made to keep things in, it's to keep things out. The HK was supposed to make sure the Radiance was contained. The Dreamers were here to make sure no one would attempt to destroy the HK.

what's the best, most complete version to get of this game? i'm an idort.

I FUCKING DID IT FINALLY HOLY SHIT
thanks user, couldn't have done it without the build

godmaster

I'm glad it helped, I was just about to post to not give up on phase 3/4, because the exact same thing happened to me.

Have a cute moth for your troubles :3

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Nevermind, you were referring to just the dreamers sealing of the egg, I thought you meant the whole thing with HK.
If nobody ever found a way to cut through dreams, then the dreamers could endure significantly, but in the end nothing last eternally, as the game's story keeps insisting throughout the whole adventure.

Wtf why do people sleep
Shake my head

Not him, but that's a cute moth indeed.
Saved.

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What are the best charms for the path of pain?

Is he ok?

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Nothing in particular, since now there's statued that gives you free soul, therefore free health, at every stop.

As a personal advice don't overcharm and get geared up for combat

Redpill me on this game, I have never enjoyed a single one of these sidescroller games, not even back in the NES / SNES era.

What's the appeal?

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Yeah, he's fine, why do ask?

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so the higher beings ingame are the king, queen, void and MOTH, but what else was there?
>unn possibly
>fungus collective
>whatever was worshiped pre-hallownest (soul statues/arcane eggs)

and also, how did the other societies fit in
>Vespa says the hive was a prt Hallownest but did not participate in the vessel making
>Mantis lords made a deal to keep deepnest at bay
>deepnest had an “honoured caste” comparable to the Pale King in status
>moss vagabonds got gentrified out of the gardens
lol

[RAUGHS]

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>Path of Pain is difficul-

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yeah but the moths aren't

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There is action to satisfy our thirst for violence.

The story, the maps, variety of areas, skills and enemies, instigate our curitosity just so that the exploration can satisfy it.

There are also challenges and a lot of rewards a long the way.

I'm sorry but it had to be done

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all versions have
>Base game
>Hidden Dreams
>Grimm Troupe
>Lifeblood rebalancing/tweaks
>Godmaster

PS4 and XBONE versions are called Voidheart edition but thats bc the ports were released September 2018, after Godmaster was released, so theyve always had all the content.

thanks, I like how easy phase 4 was, its almost like they anticipated that it will be stressful regardless

>What's the appeal?
It's a platformer metroidvania focused on exploration and bossfights. People like it because after a while the game stops holding your hand and you're left alone, completely on your own to decide what to do and where to go explore, so a lot of people end up with completely different.
Lacks some variety in its combat, but it makes up for it with precise tight controls and a "trait" system that gives you some minor capabilities to personalize your build.
The assets look beautiful, the ambience/presentation is on point and the music is 10/10, so that's nice too.
It's also decent in overall difficulty, and some of the challenges it offers in the lategame were hard enough to cause considerable butthurt among casuals.
The most common complain is that the start is slow and a for some people it only picks up after they reach second upgrade. I guess the fact it's a very long game doesn't help in this last point.
Nagatoro is wholesome.

Its just like real life!

>the moths aren't
I know user, I know. They need more love.

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>platformer metroidvania
Redundant.

>pain flops
?????

Damn you, feminism! Bring back our tiny knight boy!

Not really, it focused more on platforming than others of its genre.

I'll give you 5 bucks to come over to my house and beat radiant AR for me

It's genre is 2D platformer.

>I'll give you 5 bucks to come over to my house and beat radiant AR for me
You'll still feel the pain so why

It's genre is metroidvania.
It focused more in platforming challenges than other metroidvanias.

I don't know if that's the real name for it but it's a fetish where some fat bitch falls on top of a guy on purpose.

This is why "metroidvania" is a fucking retarded genre name. Lots of games that are closer to being metroid games are platforming heavy.

Deal.

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Post YFW you saw pic related for the first time

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Vinny pitched the idea of renaming it to “Stop Map”

Thoughts?

>It's genre is metroidvania.
That's not a genre and Hollow Knight lacks the Vania aspect anyways.

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>That's not a genre
Ah, you're one of those. Nevermind then.

The entire "genre" needs to just not exist. It lumps together types of games that are very different. It's basically the same as how rougelite doesn't mean anything except procgen and permadeath. It's not actually a useful term.

Not an argument.

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>Not using magic
You just made the fight like two times longer

Now do absolute radiance

Look, man, I don't care what word you prefer to refer to a group of games we all know the meaning of.
I'm not going to argue semantics with a genre autist.
Regardless of how you want to call it, HK still focused more on platforming challenges by putting a lower ceiling of lategame movement skills in comparison with the usual in this "type of games".
The semantics are irrelevant to this.

This thread is still up. Nice.

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Easy boss, t b h.

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can brendan fraser beat the path of pain?

Oh no!

he's living it

he already did

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Everytime I read this now I hear it in her voice. Dammit.

>little ghost bows his head when at the Queen's garden bench

You mean the way he falls asleep if you idle long enough at any bench?

The Hollow Knight isn't the real end boss, dumbass. Of course he's fucking easier than Radiance.

How the FUCK do you do the Uumuu fight in Pantheon?

play ping pong

*notices your perfect run*

uWu what's this?

>the closest I came to dying in the third pantheon was Uumuu
shit boss

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I seriously don't see how people have issues with Uumuu, are you people really this shit at calculating projectile launch angles?

Git gud!
>brooding mawlek
>gruz mother
>false knight
>nosk
>first-time hornet
>gorb
>the colector
>dung defender
>crystal guardian
>mantis lords
>galien
>xero
>soul master
>markoth
>traitor lord (the bug lady assisted me on this one but I don't think it matters much)
>flukemarm
>hive knight
>failed champion

Only those who prove their honor in combat may enter the grove beyond.
>broken vessel
>uumuu
>no eyes
>watcher knights
>first dream zote
>second dream zote
>third dream zote
>second-time hornet
>hollow knight
>fourth dream zote
>lost kin

To attain a pure focus, is it even possible?
>fifith dream zote
>trial of the fool

Wanderers seeking death, welcome.
>Path of Pain

Spare thought for those consumed, through their grace we are evolved
>Pantheon of Hallownest

Sleep beckons eternal and these words become my last.
>Radiant Markoth
>Radiant Absolute Radiance

-OF-ABSENCE-THIR-ABUNDANCE-SHELL-OUTER-O-INNER-
PLACE-IN-ABSENCE-THIR-VOID-LIQUID-SUBSTANCE-O-
WEAVE-ABSENCE-INNER-O-SHELL-OUTER-THIR-MATER
PEER-CH-VOID-VESSEL-ABSENCE-ALL-OUTER-CONTAIN-
>Pantheon of Hallownest All Bindings

>Not putting Radiant Markoth and Radiant AR in the hardest tier : FUCK MOTHS

I'm going to attempt radiant AR

Why do I do this to myself, Yea Forums? It doesn't even matter, I don't even get an achievement to show off that I did it

Yeah, but you get access to a sweet statue no one else has.

...training dummy?

>it gets good when you do
Fuck yeah, it makes so mucha sense actually

Pic related was easily my favourite oh shit moment during my original playthrough. I thought the lore ball got rolling there, learning about the Wyrm and shit.

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My face when I realize just how big Wyrms are.

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Post the dumbest/most will shattering thing you've done in this game
Died in the last room for delicate flower

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Based on the bug-sized Knight, about the size of a big eagle ?

I misunderstood what you could actually do with the large jellyfish because I mostly just avoided hitting them when in the area they're in. Second time around I realized you could just hit them like baseballs and it made the fight hilariously easy.

And based on a foot sized Knight, about the size of a whale.

I practised the last, tight spike obstacle for the delicate flower quest 3 times, did it perfectly everytime. Made it there on my 2nd or 4th attempt and got hit by those fucking spikes

Just that?

Isn’t the Wyrm shell encompassing all of Kingdom’s edge?

what sequence of events have to take place for someone to even develop a fetish like that

While I'm glad I'm not alone, those are painful memories for me.

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>first platformer
Nani the fuck

next to oro’s hut in kingdoms edge theres a giant hopper corpse on a stick with dream nail dialogue
>brothers...
if you whack it with your nail enough two live ones will fall from the ceiling

I'm sorry I thought this was a game about BUGS

Well it all depends just how big you think the Knight is. We don't know. He could be less than a fraction of an inch, or as large as a human. The mouth diameter of the Wyrm is about 5 times the height of the Knight and we know its longer than Bardoon.

these colosseum fights take way too long and are way too boring

what the fuck were they thinking?

>tfw you find the empty eggshell and realise stagbro isn't alone

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It seems so easy at first but once you have the flower it's a whole other beast

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And jellyfish.

The snow in Kingdom’s Edge is the molting Wyrm Skin.

Which means the tail of that mofo is somewhere above Kingdom’s Edge.

Much bigger than an eagle. Bardoon would be the size of an eagle.

You realise the big boi in the picture isnt a wyrm right?

All the 'ash' or 'snow' in kingdoms edge is literally the wyrms old shell slowly decaying.
And it's STILL somewhat intact after all this time.

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>these colosseum fights take way too long and are way too boring
Sounds like Fortnite might be more your speed.

>mfw it's a female and she's getting blacked by a husk guard

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Yes, I do know.

Yeah. Bugs of indeterminate size.

Why are you thinking about such things, user?

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psyop victim

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change 'long' to 'repetitive'. Your thoughts now?

Getting fatally blasted in the face after reaching the topmost platform of Radiance's final phase.

even better, after getting hit, I tried it 3 more times and did perfectly every time made me feel even worse

Also, both those comments were me.

OP here

thanks for the wholesome thread lads.

I made some nice progress today in the game.

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It's almost like they're admitting their challenge is pure bullshit

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post your charms setup homie

based

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Fuck, I want him to impregnate my eggs.

HMMMMMM

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I DID IT. 6 HOURS FUCKING LATER AND I DID IT. I'VE BEEN TRYING SINCE AUGUST.

I'm no longer a shitter that needs to Git Gud.

>post your charms setup homie

5 notches

wearing:
- longnail
- soul catcher or dash master (alternate)
- money flies

also have:
- shaman stone
- steady body
- compass
- lifeblood heart

I unlocked City of Tears until the Map and Stag Station. Tomorrow I make my way into Sanctum.

Also I opened about 70 % of the levers to reach the Mantis Lords, to get my Mark of Pride.

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>CTRL+F
>"Hollow"
>0 Results
>"Lets make a thread then"

People actually use dash master outside of boss fights?

this map is huge
gotta go fast

anyway once I have 6 notches I can do much better organization

It took me a while to understand how he telegraphs his moves. It had some great music though.

went full panic at the end of PoP and got killed the first time

no charms binding in knight pantheon is just killing me

Get good.

Pre-nerf it was an unholy motherfucker of a boss.

I'm there with you. I didn't realize just how dependent I was on Steady Body.

It doesn't get any better, does it?

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No it wasn't. I beat it both fully bound in PoH and Radiant multiple times. Uumuu is actually one of the most relaxed bosses, it literally can't hit you if you focus on doding and getting one of the jellyfish into the right place, and you have plenty of time to dream nail it and heal. You just can't rush at it.

He still gets more titles

I liked that charm a lot 100 hours ago but I've gotten used to not having it, I think recoil is even a bit more useful in the end

It's the lack of quickslash and range that's just really hard, in addition to a much weaker nail. Fights take like 3 times as long.

Lost Kin in particular is just brutally difficult to avoid damage. I spent 12 hours radianting him and I'm still not very good at it, he's probably the hardest boss to read in the game (imo)

Lack of range is really only killing me on PV, since it's fucking up my pogoing. Not all of the time, but enough to end my run like it just did. 20 minutes down the drain

Play Symphony of the Night, seriously. I also highly recommend Environmental Station Alpha on steam, both are much better metroidvanias than Hollow Knight. Part of the appeal is in getting stronger and gaining new mobility options. Hollow Knight is seriously lacking in that regard.

SoTN is garbage and people who like it have bad taste.

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As a spaniard I can tell you TC literally hired some random fan on Discord to translate the whole thing to Spanish. I hope they hire an actual localization company for Silksong now that they made some real money

This.
SotN is the epitome of style over substance.

I'm genuinely interested in how you came to that conclusion. It's fairly easy, but it's a solid experience IMO and commonly thought as one of the best games of all time. What bothered you about it?

I remember Zote 6 or 7 being the hardest

If you can beat those you can beat all of them.

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I just personally found it incredibly boring and uninteresting and I have no idea why people like it.

Bad gameplay is a big reason.

this. Hornet's moveset looks SICK

If only more people shilled good games Yea Forums would be a better place.

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Didn't you find the item/weapon combinations interesting? They were admittedly held back by the low difficulty and their hints were kinda shit due to the translation, but I love hidden stuff like that. Playing with a luck build bumped up the initiall challenge quite a bit and there were a load of different weapon movesets. I didn't think the gameplay itself was lacking, but it's easy to become OP.

currently actually making progress against NKG for the first time. Banished the Troupe like a cuck on the first playthrough, bout to burn the father like a Chad in the second.

Also, his themes and aesthetics are the best in the game, fucking fight me. youtube.com/watch?v=gDJGY92Gv6k

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>Didn't you find the item/weapon combinations interesting?
Not when there's nothing in the way of interesting enemies to use them. The game is beyond braindead easy in that combat department, that it doesn't matter what you use.

Ok but really though, someone get me out of this fucking hollownest
I don't want to be here anymore

Based

At what point he starts oneshoting?

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Take the tram.

I got to what is clearly the tram station but have no badge to open it yet
kuyashi

the ticket to use trams is in deepnest

Dance and die and live forever my friend!

>Those drums.

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I'll keep looking, but begrudgingly

I imagine Silksong is going to be really hard, what with having to play it one handed and all.

Kuyashii needs to have 2 'i's at the end when you romanize it.

The DS trilogy had some tougher enemies. Fighting Richter 1v1 in PoR was fun, and OoE was balanced well. Maybe give those a shot if difficulty was the only thing causing you to lose interest in SotN.

Still not as epic as the Eternal Ordeal.

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NOOOOOO, BRETTA!
YOU SLUT!

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Deepnest guide:
Go south.
Hit the sauna
Go northwest.
If you find a place that needs the lamp, you've gone too far west.
If you hit mushrooms, you've gone too far north.
Maybe it's just my multiple steel soul attempts, but deepnest isnt too confusing once you get a few landmarks in your head.

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>mfw the fucking guitar riff and drums kick in

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Based.

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you guys are the nicest anons i've met so far for helping a nigga out

Problem is spell builds are shit and not fun

she fat tho

BAAAAAAAAA PUNDAAAAAAA

Wait you're literally me

Yknow Grimm is a Vampire Moth.

no, she thicc

fuck yeah it does youtube.com/watch?v=gDJGY92Gv6k

I prefer Troupe Master Grimms theme tho

imagine being this blind to atmosphere and too lazy to do basic exploration

The art style of this game is SO FUCKING GOOD HOLY SHIT.

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>Can't even beat pantheon of the sage
Fucking hell maybe I should just give up now.

it tends to look easy after days of grinding

t. kissless virgin neet

Stop typing like niggers.

stop typing like virgins

So long as you're willing to commit, you'll do it. I just beat PoH today after half a year of trying. You just need to grind it.

This.

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That's his eggshell u dolt